Speaker 1: Watch up and welcome back to another episode and no
Speaker 1: sellers podcast with your host. Not funk that with your
Speaker 1: low classes, Malone. That's the same thing I'll tell y'all
Speaker 1: all the time. Anyway, y'all give offense too much credit.
Speaker 1: So whoever scoring the points, y'all be like, oh, he's
Speaker 1: the best player on the team. It's like being in
Speaker 1: kindygarden at times talking hoops for people, dog, whoever scored
Speaker 1: a more point Tatum? Tatum is six nine inefficient shoot?
Speaker 1: Or you cannot be that tall and shoot forty five percent?
Speaker 1: What are you doing? He is not the best player
Speaker 1: on the Celtics team. Is he a good combination of
Speaker 1: a good offensive player and a good combination of a
Speaker 1: defensive player. Sure, the best player on the team is
Speaker 1: market Spark. The team is built around market smart identity, sir,
Speaker 1: That's what and start off this podcast, people, market Smart
Speaker 1: is the best member of the boss just went to
Speaker 1: the East tiwn listen because they went to the Eastern
Speaker 1: Conference finals when Jayon Brown was a baby and Taylor
Speaker 1: wasn't on the team. And then I said Thomas and
Speaker 1: then Isaiah Thomas can go play for somebody else. Shout
Speaker 1: out to my nigga to my low, but niggas Isaiah
Speaker 1: Thomas and they're in the Eastern Conference finals. The team
Speaker 1: is built around defense. They have the number one defense
Speaker 1: in the NBA with the number one defensive player. What
Speaker 1: the hell, it's not rocket side, Really, I really can't
Speaker 1: stand you, brother man, lying to the public right now.
Speaker 1: But as he also continues, but also he also does
Speaker 1: contribute offensively, like conversation. Offensively, they're the number one defensive
Speaker 1: team in the NBA, the number one defensive team in
Speaker 1: NBA with an average or above average offensive player. You
Speaker 1: want to tell me about his contribution. Fucking contributed? Your
Speaker 1: datta stopped disrespecting defense. I don't know what happened in
Speaker 1: basketball to where ESPN is brain west yall with highlights.
Speaker 1: Defense wins championship. You know what happened in basketball? Games
Speaker 1: two through five of the NBA Finals. Yeah, but games
Speaker 1: two through five and NBA Finals is all about defense.
Speaker 1: The first game is the only one about offense. As
Speaker 1: le Bron, I didn't think that was the case this year.
Speaker 1: It's always that. What happened was the Warriors may change
Speaker 1: his defensively and the Celtics could not because the Warriors
Speaker 1: have a really great defense. It happened to be that.
Speaker 1: It happened to be the number one and two defensive
Speaker 1: teams in the NBA. And you notice the difference between
Speaker 1: offenses with Tatum and stuff at that point, Yes, you did?
Speaker 1: You see what you see with a two or three
Speaker 1: time m v P look like versus and Nigga? Who
Speaker 1: y'all high on? That's s nine that shoot jump shots?
Speaker 1: E g. He dunked one time in the whole funals.
Speaker 1: You're six nine? What are you doing? It's so upsetting
Speaker 1: explaining basketball to people. They just show determined scoring the ball.
Speaker 1: It's like everybody's a kid three to one Jordan's Kobe bro.
Speaker 1: The game is way more than scoring the goddamn ball.
Speaker 1: It is, And it's frustrating when you're looking at Marcus Smart,
Speaker 1: who literally has been taking his team to the playoffs
Speaker 1: through his world renowned defense. He's probably this only is
Speaker 1: he the second point guard to ever win Defensive Player
Speaker 1: of the Year. You're not good. You gotta be as
Speaker 1: a point guard to win defensive Player. I think Sydney
Speaker 1: Moncrief was a shooting guard. Shooting guard. I think Michael
Speaker 1: George's shooting guard. It's only been two Niggers and it
Speaker 1: gets this is one of the greatest defenders ever and
Speaker 1: somehow we're talking about Tatum. Hatum is not one of
Speaker 1: the best offensive players to day. This this is true,
Speaker 1: but you have to be like your first offensive player
Speaker 1: on your team to do that as a point guard. Yes,
Speaker 1: for the most part, it's it's it's it's simple science.
Speaker 1: Right when the Celtics won in two thousand eight, they
Speaker 1: were the number one defensive team. They weren't even a
Speaker 1: top ten offer that one defensive player of the year.
Speaker 1: And you can talk about Paul they won a championship.
Speaker 1: But somehow you nick is making about the truth? How how? Why?
Speaker 1: I was having on Twitter and it was like, Chas,
Speaker 1: so you mean to tell me the team clearly built
Speaker 1: around number in the NBA is the Detroit Pistons in
Speaker 1: two thousand four with the guy who won his second
Speaker 1: or third Defensive Player of the Year and you Nikas
Speaker 1: just talking abrom the field. What do we do it?
Speaker 1: You know, what do we do why? While frustrating Bro,
Speaker 1: it's like talking to little kids. And it's crazy because
Speaker 1: some of the niggas I talked to hoop niggas is
Speaker 1: hoopers and I'm like, bro, what the fuck if you
Speaker 1: have the number one defense with the number one defensive player,
Speaker 1: be obvious who the guy is. That's that that's that's
Speaker 1: that's crazy time. Why why are you? Why? Why is
Speaker 1: this an argument? New? No? Stop, you just gotta stop.
Speaker 1: I feel you. You're a defensive crusader, you like the
Speaker 1: Christopher Columbus of defense. But no, please, no stop it
Speaker 1: by love Marcus Smart. He is cool, but he is
Speaker 1: a role player. A role player is not the best
Speaker 1: player on the team. Now, if you want to argue
Speaker 1: Jalen Brown, I'm cool. Both sides, get it. Get the
Speaker 1: funk out of here. Thomas was doing. He's not Isaiah Thomas.
Speaker 1: He's not five nineties six nine. Stop Notah Thomas for sure,
Speaker 1: because game as good as actually got better now he
Speaker 1: really know we are, like are we serious right now?
Speaker 1: Like you're gonna let one bad series basically just more
Speaker 1: of them. I don't give a fuck, You're gonna let
Speaker 1: one bad playoff? De value the man holding how good
Speaker 1: was he in the first pece? Talking about him since
Speaker 1: the finals, Like the man didn't help take them to
Speaker 1: the fucking final. He didn't take them there. He shot
Speaker 1: forty the whole way here, that ship, where the fund was,
Speaker 1: Kevin Durin that sitting his ass at home because he
Speaker 1: got his ass pooped up by who, by Jason Tatum
Speaker 1: and about the Celtics. No he did, he got it. No,
Speaker 1: he got his guarden very well. I don't everybody by who? Everyone,
Speaker 1: everybody guarding everyone made a concern Al Horford was guard
Speaker 1: h That's when I was sad when that's what Alford garden.
Speaker 1: But yes, al Horford was guard him. Yes, everybody was
Speaker 1: guarding Hieration. I'm not mad, not definitely not. But Tom listen,
Speaker 1: So number one defense that matter that Pete by the way,
Speaker 1: So number one defense with the defensive player of the year.
Speaker 1: That's still not his team. No, it's not his team.
Speaker 1: It's a team defense. Like he's not the team defense.
Speaker 1: He can't go out there and play one on five.
Speaker 1: It's a five man defense. Offensive player has had a
Speaker 1: good defensive foundation since Brad Stevens took over the organization
Speaker 1: and built more around rebounding and perimeter defenders. I'm not
Speaker 1: fennising it up here and give Marcus Smart all of
Speaker 1: the credit because he had a good year. He had
Speaker 1: the same fucking Marcus Smart year. You have every year,
Speaker 1: he just happened to win Defensive Player of the Year
Speaker 1: because because Jannice, every time he does something that's more incredible,
Speaker 1: it's kind of less impressive because it's like whatever, we've
Speaker 1: seen it before. But I don't believe Marcus Smart deserve
Speaker 1: to be Defensive Player of the Year last year over
Speaker 1: y honest. I just think people got voters fatigue because
Speaker 1: the man went back to back m vps and Defensive
Speaker 1: Player of the Year. But I don't think Marcus Smart
Speaker 1: is the best defender in the NBA. That's cap to me.
Speaker 1: I would take I would take herb Jones man a
Speaker 1: man over Marcus Smart and play in terms of defense
Speaker 1: and that man a rookie you have you have lost?
Speaker 1: You know I have not. You know I have not,
Speaker 1: So I have not can defend three to four positions?
Speaker 1: He podcast? Oh he cannot. That's podcast is no seilings. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my man, Peter, Peter Boss is in the spot. I
Speaker 1: got my partners from my partner TPJ, my partner Pavvy
Speaker 1: from the Hoops and Bruise podcast and just all around
Speaker 1: standout guys. But they started a podcast called Hoops and
Speaker 1: Bruise if you listen to No Silings, you've heard it
Speaker 1: before and it's obvious Tom has started drinking bruise early. Brother,
Speaker 1: I have nothing, but this is McDonald's sprite now we know,
Speaker 1: and said about right dirty? Yeah, bro, what are you
Speaker 1: talking about like that? Little You have to stop doing that.
Speaker 1: You have to stop argue. You have to stop believing
Speaker 1: your own personal eyes, not about my personal eyes. I
Speaker 1: didn't say Jayson Tatum. I didn't say that, market. I
Speaker 1: said Marcus Smart is not the best player on the team.
Speaker 1: He's not. If you want to no, no, because let
Speaker 1: me finished before you misconstrue my point. If you want
Speaker 1: to see Jason Tatum is not the best player on
Speaker 1: the team. Okay, but it's not fucking Marcus Smart. There's
Speaker 1: another guy on the floor that plays very very good
Speaker 1: defense and can give you twenty on any given night.
Speaker 1: He don't even play all NBA's best defense, Daylan Brown, No,
Speaker 1: you want a team with all they defending? Who you
Speaker 1: think getting credit for? You sitt up giving Marcus Smart
Speaker 1: the credit for the whole team defense. With Marcus Smart,
Speaker 1: I'm giving him the credit because he is a standout
Speaker 1: individual defender, and I agree with that. But their team
Speaker 1: defense was number one their team d because you have
Speaker 1: because you have good defenders on the team, one of
Speaker 1: the best defensive players in the NBA. That does not
Speaker 1: make that man the best playing on the team. Because
Speaker 1: at that point, then can we say Joker is not
Speaker 1: the best player on the Dungets. He is the best
Speaker 1: player on the because he can score the ball. No,
Speaker 1: he scores, he facilitates, he's the number one rebound on
Speaker 1: the team. He shoot, Damn, they're the best on the team.
Speaker 1: He plays the worst defense. I don't I don't care.
Speaker 1: I don't care. Do not care about his defense. You
Speaker 1: know why you don't care? I don't care about his defense.
Speaker 1: Why because if he's weak offensive, if he's weak offensively
Speaker 1: and he's strong defensively like a Rudy Gobert, you're gonna
Speaker 1: be telling me, Oh, the man can't do ship but
Speaker 1: set screens. If he's an offensive dynamo and he's not
Speaker 1: great on defense, that's all he's can't be the best player.
Speaker 1: He don't play deeper like it's like it's all of
Speaker 1: this like you're one, You're doing it time, You're doing
Speaker 1: it right. I'm literally I'm not. I just gave you
Speaker 1: the perfect example of an offensive talent who does not
Speaker 1: play good defense on the team. Is rebounding a part
Speaker 1: of defense? Rebounding is a possession part. But now what
Speaker 1: I asked you, I asked you a very specific questions.
Speaker 1: Yes or no. It's rebounding a part of defense. It
Speaker 1: depends defensive Yes, and you did you doing this? You
Speaker 1: doing pay? You're answering your question with specifics. Defensive rebounding
Speaker 1: is a part of defense. Okay, then so therefore, if
Speaker 1: the man is giving me seven to eight defensive rebounds
Speaker 1: a game, he is upholding his part of the of
Speaker 1: the responsibility as well as being an offensive dynamo. Don't
Speaker 1: sit up here and try to conflict. So Marcus Smart,
Speaker 1: So March Smart doesn't have sixteen points and seven to six,
Speaker 1: it's not six six. Still he can trip off, and
Speaker 1: what is his job off? Both the facilitate and as
Speaker 1: the point guard, he should havever six assists? If he's
Speaker 1: not what it? What do you want use the point guard?
Speaker 1: Jalen Brunson didn't never six assists and he's a point guard.
Speaker 1: Jalen Brunson is not the point guard of the of
Speaker 1: the of the of the Dallas Mavericks, Luca was that's Cap.
Speaker 1: That's Cap. That is straight up, he's the point guard.
Speaker 1: He is a point guard in name only. The same
Speaker 1: way as we had the conversation earlier about the Lakers
Speaker 1: and Lebron and and you said Lebron not gonna not
Speaker 1: play point guard, he needs them assist is not listing.
Speaker 1: Lebron is not listed at point guard though, point guard
Speaker 1: Lucas I'm saying, right, So floora positioning is where you
Speaker 1: play on the floor, minus all the shenagans of what
Speaker 1: we didn't convince ourselves of titles, and you know what,
Speaker 1: he's a facilitator, blah blah blah blah. No, let's just
Speaker 1: talk about simple floor positioning. So my question to you
Speaker 1: and me make my point. Marcus Smart plays the point
Speaker 1: guard Floyd positioning. Lebron James plays the point guard floor positioning, Luca,
Speaker 1: that's not important. The reality is, yes, a defensive player
Speaker 1: can be the best player on the team. He's not
Speaker 1: on the Boston Celtics, That's what I'm saying. No, he's not.
Speaker 1: It's not the only team in the NBA that has
Speaker 1: the best player on the team and they're in they're
Speaker 1: a defensive player is Rudy Gobert, periods man, and they
Speaker 1: can go to hell in a handbasket. And that's how
Speaker 1: I feel about you. This motherfuck No, Marcus Smart. Celtics
Speaker 1: have been good. The Celtics have been good since Marcus
Speaker 1: Smart has been suiting up. They're in the Eastern Conference
Speaker 1: Final with not Tatum Smart at least the past Marcus
Speaker 1: a consistent thing there and Al Horford too. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: that was still okay, And and he came back and
Speaker 1: guess what, they wasn't even better? And they was even
Speaker 1: better when he came back. Agreed, Okay, then, so how
Speaker 1: was it all on Marcus Smart? Then if it's not
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan is the best player on the Chicago Bulls,
Speaker 1: that don't meant Scottie Pippen is not Scottie Pippen. No,
Speaker 1: by your argument, Scotty the best defender on the team.
Speaker 1: He facilitated scoring. He's not the best defender on the team.
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's Michael Michael Jordan's and then maybe Dennis Robbin
Speaker 1: And well, actually no, Dennis Robbin is a better defender
Speaker 1: than Michael Jordan. But we're talked about before he was
Speaker 1: the best player on the Bulls. Then it actually was
Speaker 1: a real conversation whether or not or you don't give
Speaker 1: credit to offensive rebounds. I give credit to offensive red
Speaker 1: because that would make him just like a dynamic I
Speaker 1: give that because you talked about offensive rebounds that would
Speaker 1: make him a dynamic offensive player. I do think I
Speaker 1: never argued that he wasn't a dynamic offensive player. But he's.
Speaker 1: But at that point, they're not better than Michael Jeff Jordan.
Speaker 1: It's possible he could fucking be better than Michael fucking
Speaker 1: Jordan's No, I'm saying all that, but I mean he's
Speaker 1: a better defender. Look, I know you don't smoke weed.
Speaker 1: I know this. Yeah, but it's Friday, it's your day off.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying all that, but I do think Robin
Speaker 1: should have want to find v P George Show does
Speaker 1: Gary Payton show shot thirty but he broke it off
Speaker 1: as a reboundy record twice. And Michael Jordan, but you
Speaker 1: know what, the last shot, the last shot, little kids
Speaker 1: three to Michael Jordan made the shot. He made the shot.
Speaker 1: He shot thirty times to have his thirty point. He
Speaker 1: did shoe third time slack before it. That was his
Speaker 1: worst playoff series ever Acts. Garry Patty was on that.
Speaker 1: But I can change things. How do you think of
Speaker 1: these things? I mean, you're just I think of these things.
Speaker 1: They're just the fact I actually care about facts. I
Speaker 1: don't look past the scrolls on the wall. If it's
Speaker 1: right there, there's a bass guitar hanging up in the studio.
Speaker 1: I don't look past and me like that wall color
Speaker 1: is nice, there's still a bass guitar hanging on the studio.
Speaker 1: So who are you saying Michael Jordan is the bass
Speaker 1: guitar of the wall. Well, I mean Dennis Rodman was
Speaker 1: winning before Michael Jordan's win. Got to go in this conversation.
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's winning before Dennis Rodman. You know he wasn't
Speaker 1: He won three titles before Robin. No, no no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: he I'm telling you Thennis Robbin won title before Michael
Speaker 1: Jordans won anything. Well, Michael Joyd was getting bounced around
Speaker 1: the East Coast by everybody in their MoMA. He's getting
Speaker 1: passed around like a two dollar hooker every playoffs. You
Speaker 1: know what Dennis Rodman was doing, Peter winning on the
Speaker 1: team where he was not where he wasn't. He was
Speaker 1: literally the number one defensive player on the number one
Speaker 1: defensive team that you, for fucking some reason can't see
Speaker 1: that their offense was number thirteen, but you attempidated and
Speaker 1: they and they didn't have a guy that was They
Speaker 1: started shooting guard. That's one of the best defensive shooting
Speaker 1: guards to exist. I mean, he's not quite I don't
Speaker 1: want that. I don't want hear that they got defense
Speaker 1: on that team. Bill Albert complay no defense, joy, did
Speaker 1: he mean Steve kerkis shoot the ball? But we're not, say,
Speaker 1: anybody than Michael Jordan, And we're not We're not trying
Speaker 1: to this this sir Michael Jordan's contributions or did Steve
Speaker 1: Kerk's contribution to championships? But all of a sudden, his defense.
Speaker 1: You care about everybody else but now his office Michael
Speaker 1: Jordan scoring. If you're talking about point guard defense, as
Speaker 1: far as the Celtics team goes, a point guard defensively
Speaker 1: is only as good as his help side defense behind him. Period.
Speaker 1: That's everybody totally disagree. You tream defense. I think team defense.
Speaker 1: He's on his team defense is only as good as
Speaker 1: the guys that was behind him. Individual defender, he's fan
Speaker 1: fucking tasting, but also your point guard being good defensively
Speaker 1: is it helps because first of all, if if, if,
Speaker 1: if you're not getting fences right looking at the jazz.
Speaker 1: The reason why people think Rudy gets exploited in the
Speaker 1: playoffs because it's Mitchell. It's like being a great corner
Speaker 1: in football with a really really really good safety behind you,
Speaker 1: when you can afford to press and cheat. Thank you.
Speaker 1: There's other people on the clot with you at all times, yes,
Speaker 1: and going to be who they are if the team
Speaker 1: defense in front of them. But that's that's the same
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's couldn't have winning seasons before Scottie Pippen. He
Speaker 1: never had a winning season. Michael Jordan played three years,
Speaker 1: definitely to play three years before Scottie Pippen. How can
Speaker 1: you see here they do his rookie contract. I mean
Speaker 1: mattheck Johnson one as a with Karim fucking out du
Speaker 1: with Jabar. Actually Kareem sat down and he wont still.
Speaker 1: I really, I love you, dog, but how do you
Speaker 1: draw me hit to have these conversations every time? I
Speaker 1: don't really because you're really being biased to offense in
Speaker 1: his disgusting shout out to my boy Nick, my man
Speaker 1: Nick Hamilton's bias the offense with magic, your magic, your
Speaker 1: favorite player. What look, what defense did he play? You're biased?
Speaker 1: I'm not biased. I'm literally so a Iverson. Was he
Speaker 1: a great defensive player? No, but he did contribute. He
Speaker 1: actually played the past nine with a two time skills
Speaker 1: like my man Magic. They just told him do whatever
Speaker 1: you want to do again. The Kim Babe Mutumbo came
Speaker 1: and changed the culture of that teams and they became
Speaker 1: the best defensive league. Can get whom one defensive player
Speaker 1: of the year. And guess who never went to no
Speaker 1: more championships without and guess who got smoked up back
Speaker 1: shock when he when they when they faced each other
Speaker 1: and putting that man through the guy damn he was
Speaker 1: putting that man through the wall and through the bass
Speaker 1: guitar on your studios. Be fair, though, and to be
Speaker 1: I think that series actually could have been better if
Speaker 1: the Sixers weren't as hurt. They were really hurting that series,
Speaker 1: and it might have gone four and a half or
Speaker 1: five and a half. And Alan Iverson was a little
Speaker 1: harder to play better defense that too, because he because
Speaker 1: just out there whooping ass and Alan good ship because
Speaker 1: Alan Irrison doesn't play great defense. He had good help
Speaker 1: behind him, so we could afford to gamble all day long.
Speaker 1: I'm not disagreed, but don't ever compare that to Mark's.
Speaker 1: So part of my problem with Marcus Smart, it's it's defense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: exactly smart. He gambled a lot. If I know that
Speaker 1: the passing lanes behind me are clogged, I can defend
Speaker 1: a guy up top a lot differently than if I
Speaker 1: don't really totally totally agree that things you can do
Speaker 1: when you have help is different, but that you're gonna
Speaker 1: get stared up. Michael Jordan could play means I'm gonna
Speaker 1: look a really really good bleeding out every point in
Speaker 1: front of it. Could play like ship. When Dennis Rodan
Speaker 1: was back there to get all the fucking rebounds, he
Speaker 1: could miss all the shots in the world in the
Speaker 1: final everyone he could go. He coul shoot thirty shots
Speaker 1: and I mean, I mean to be fair, Uh, Dennis
Speaker 1: shot what three times the game? Somebody else gotta shoot
Speaker 1: the god damn ball. Can't be four people out there
Speaker 1: shooting the ball and to be blunt. Dennis is in
Speaker 1: a cushy position because nobody was gonna expect to scoreboard
Speaker 1: three and a quarter points a game, so no one
Speaker 1: covered him, so he had an open lane to pick
Speaker 1: from to be able to position himself into rebounds because
Speaker 1: he wasn't getting boxed out and manned up, and three
Speaker 1: quarters covered on the block because no one was trying
Speaker 1: to enter a ball to him on the block, So
Speaker 1: we had a very cushy rebound man. He show his hell,
Speaker 1: so when he crashed to the boards, I don't I
Speaker 1: don't need you to give me reasons why Dennis rob
Speaker 1: is a top team player. I know the reason why Dennis. Look. Look, look,
Speaker 1: look what I would have started. You have started the
Speaker 1: first twenty minutes of this podcast off with some elite
Speaker 1: hot takes one Marcus Smart, best player on the Celtics
Speaker 1: to ten all time. None of these are hot, they
Speaker 1: are really They're actually just simple facts that are ignored
Speaker 1: by fans who glory who gramarized offense because it's all gee,
Speaker 1: it's an offensive driven league. When you have an offensive
Speaker 1: driven league, of course fans are gonna gravitate to what's office,
Speaker 1: especially but offense for the most we don't wait a minute,
Speaker 1: We don't glorify defense like we did back in the
Speaker 1: eighties and the nineties, and the game has changed and
Speaker 1: and the people have changed along. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So when you talk about Marcus Spark, no, you're not
Speaker 1: gonna look at Marcus Smart because first of all, he's
Speaker 1: ridiculously inconsistent at times when you needed to really step up.
Speaker 1: Number Two, we're gonna look at Jason Tatum because we
Speaker 1: see what Jason Tatum as emerged too from that time
Speaker 1: he dunked on Lebron in Game seven and took the Celtics,
Speaker 1: who were not even featured to go to Game seven
Speaker 1: at that time, to go to Game seven, and then
Speaker 1: he went back to the NBA Finals this year. So
Speaker 1: those peoplere gonna feature and look at somebody like a
Speaker 1: Jason Tatum more than they look at Marcus Smart for
Speaker 1: whatever the reason is. But it is an offensive driven league,
Speaker 1: and that's why we be glorified offense more do we
Speaker 1: do glorified defense as a whole. That don't mean your
Speaker 1: wrong that the world is wrong the world I'm saying.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is both things can't be right. But
Speaker 1: also you're talking about what's being highlighted and what what
Speaker 1: fans are paying attention to And I'm saying that's the
Speaker 1: reason why fans are paying attention to that, because it's glorified. Agree,
Speaker 1: if I had an airhorn right now, I will be
Speaker 1: fucking letting that thing. Well, Tom, he just called you
Speaker 1: a casual fan. I'm not a casual fans. But questions, No, no,
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear that. A number one, I'm
Speaker 1: not a casual finger. Don't do the TMZ stuff. That's
Speaker 1: not what I say. I'm just question literally, see fans
Speaker 1: not fundence. So why you invite me on here? You
Speaker 1: have fans on the No Seiler's podcast. Yeah, I'm one
Speaker 1: of them. My first date. I didn't know. I did
Speaker 1: not know. I am so shocked as the prod on
Speaker 1: here every week. I even brought you all up over
Speaker 1: here to talk about your fandom of offense. That is
Speaker 1: not the purpose a quick question here for that quick
Speaker 1: question to talk about the Lakers, real real quick, gee,
Speaker 1: you got uh. Let me ask you something that's honest question.
Speaker 1: What is the percent scoring ratio per possession in the league,
Speaker 1: like including second chance points, all the all of that
Speaker 1: offensive rebound like like that's what I what I need
Speaker 1: to know. And I would like to be able to
Speaker 1: compare that to like other errors, very giving rules changes
Speaker 1: and also points to per possession because three point shootings
Speaker 1: in a different place than it was like twenty five
Speaker 1: years ago. I think that's an easy way to kind
Speaker 1: of distill down the broader value of defense, if you're
Speaker 1: talking about great defense versus bad offense being three or
Speaker 1: four possions of game or twenty posessions of game worth
Speaker 1: thirty points or two points. I really, I do know
Speaker 1: this possession in the sixties was actually more. The sixties
Speaker 1: had like the highest possessions, like everybody was missing. Sixties
Speaker 1: actually had the highest possessions every like. I think the
Speaker 1: pace was actually faster, actually, and I think we're having
Speaker 1: a lot of possessions now because everybody's missing missing. Everybody's
Speaker 1: missing it because you're shooting further out the ball bouncing
Speaker 1: way back. Actually, offense is probably at one of its
Speaker 1: lowest it's now. I don't have facts on this, but
Speaker 1: if I would use my brain and superior knowledge of hoops,
Speaker 1: you know, the things that I've learned about hoops, I
Speaker 1: would not consider this one of the better offensive as fair.
Speaker 1: I think that like if you were the factor in
Speaker 1: a three verse to two at one point five, and
Speaker 1: the amount ratio of threes being made relative to two
Speaker 1: is now it probably outpaces can aggregate decrease in um
Speaker 1: overall field goal percentage, sure and that and that's a
Speaker 1: big point. I think I think you could score more
Speaker 1: points now, but I think it's going to be a
Speaker 1: lot more inefficient. I didn't call you out here just
Speaker 1: fucking time. That got me off balance talking all this
Speaker 1: bullshit about not getting more the smartest credit, not giving
Speaker 1: defensive credit, which is what they always fuck you do.
Speaker 1: Fucking I don't get why, but I brought y'all here
Speaker 1: to talk about the Lakers. It was all my mind.
Speaker 1: Earlier in path he was telling me what they announced
Speaker 1: the starting lineup for the Lakers, and that is so
Speaker 1: Darvin Ham put out today. This is this has been
Speaker 1: the starting unit. It's been Russell Westburg, Kendrick Nunn, Lebron James,
Speaker 1: Auntie Davis, DamID Jones. She did not I'm not doing
Speaker 1: literally literally literally, yeah, I'll text to you. Is that
Speaker 1: I would literally text to you if I could find him,
Speaker 1: my hope send it to me. That's that's yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's yeah, that's literally what he said here go put
Speaker 1: it in the chat right now. Literally, what he says
Speaker 1: that is that is a lineup w that's forty wins.
Speaker 1: That's forty wins. God bless, that's pretty that's forty wins.
Speaker 1: I don't care what you are, sweet Path, I did
Speaker 1: not know as a Chicago native, I did not know
Speaker 1: you were so dope to the Lakers, because that's a
Speaker 1: lot of extra wins you just gave up exactly for you,
Speaker 1: exactly forty wins with that? Why nice? You're nice man,
Speaker 1: because I ain't giving them forty wins. I'm not giving
Speaker 1: them thirty five wins. They can't win to win their
Speaker 1: games here, they can they can win thirty games with that.
Speaker 1: With that, maybe thirty four. Gon you you you're giving
Speaker 1: them too much credit. Now I'm saying thirty because here
Speaker 1: the thing. First of all, Kindrick Gunn, how do we
Speaker 1: know he's gonna be durable the entire season? Along an
Speaker 1: in that life? Number one? First of all, how are
Speaker 1: we getting Dames ain't been durable as a lagos. I'm
Speaker 1: about to get to that point. Oh on what I'm
Speaker 1: saying is number two, Lebron, when anybody goes out, it
Speaker 1: puts more stress and straight on Lebron, which more than
Speaker 1: likely he's gonna get injured at some point. I'm not
Speaker 1: calling him out to be injured. I don't wish injury
Speaker 1: or anybody, but it's just been the fact the last
Speaker 1: two to three seasons he's He's never played eighty plus
Speaker 1: games in the season in the last two to three years.
Speaker 1: So because guys have been injured and Westbrook is gonna continue,
Speaker 1: I don't care what kind of new shot he's developed.
Speaker 1: He ain't gon to that in the game every year.
Speaker 1: What's so games with that lineup kill? We will? We
Speaker 1: can you put your house on Kindrick gun being healthy
Speaker 1: six of the season? I don't. Amiens hasn't played sixty
Speaker 1: games his whole career. That's a that's a terrible liner.
Speaker 1: Damien Jones the center. Oh that that he actually plays
Speaker 1: a position. I'm sorry, That's why I even mentioned. The
Speaker 1: better line, in my personal opinion, would be, let's say
Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook, Patrick Beverley god Bless pick up like literally
Speaker 1: pick a wing, Lebron James at the ford, Anti Davis
Speaker 1: at the five. Okay, Okay, here's a better question. There's
Speaker 1: a better question. How many times how many games does
Speaker 1: the Lakers win by the end of the year. I
Speaker 1: gonna go forty wait wait wait wait wait wait wait
Speaker 1: wait you mean wait callendar win? You mean like calendar year,
Speaker 1: or you mean by like literally how many games time?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go forty seven? Who yeah, is nice? He's
Speaker 1: still believe in Lebron. No, forty No, I just think
Speaker 1: forty seven. Put them somewhere around the six seventh seed,
Speaker 1: which is where I think they will probably wind up
Speaker 1: more games. What they only played two? They only played
Speaker 1: twenty two games total with Russell, Lebron and eight in
Speaker 1: the lineup. You know what they recorded in those two games?
Speaker 1: Don't care? What How good can you be if you've
Speaker 1: only played with somebody twenty two games? So your your imagination.
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's Scottie Pippt and Dennis Robin only played twenty
Speaker 1: two games in the season, and they were foolish when
Speaker 1: when Lebron and Russell? Oh shoot, I think I was
Speaker 1: leaning up on it too much. I don't know about
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I just I mean, that's just honestly
Speaker 1: what I believe. I just believe. Alright, Pete, how many
Speaker 1: games do the Lakers win this year? How boy? Forty one,
Speaker 1: Nick where you at Nick thirty, I'm gonna say, because
Speaker 1: the lineup is gonna change intermittently because of injury, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say at least thirty nine games. I think they're
Speaker 1: playing team. I'll sell you with me, and I am
Speaker 1: saying to say about the lineup before I'm saying that
Speaker 1: if the lineup changes, which is going to I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say thirty nine around forty and they're gonna be a
Speaker 1: play in tournament team. And I'm gonna say thirty four
Speaker 1: games they don't actually and they don't make the play
Speaker 1: in games. There's no reason for them to win more
Speaker 1: games this year. Well, if Lebron gets hurt, then the
Speaker 1: whole catastrophe of Lebron and uh Westbrook on the floor
Speaker 1: simultaneously becomes mitigated. So they you know, that's a circular
Speaker 1: firing squad of an offense. They need somebody to get
Speaker 1: hurt to clear it up. I think I think long
Speaker 1: is Lebron and Russ are together. I think you get
Speaker 1: what's weird is Russ playing three in D next to
Speaker 1: Lebron stat wise is actually not bad looking on the stats.
Speaker 1: You can get somebody that's averaging eighteen points. Seven assists,
Speaker 1: seven rebounds, shooting fort you know, maybe from three or something.
Speaker 1: But the problem is you get a half of a guy.
Speaker 1: So there's no reason Lebron is a year older. Um,
Speaker 1: you're actually canceling Russ another year. You have a d
Speaker 1: who may I think he'll last sixty games? You know,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think you'll get sixty plus games out
Speaker 1: of me. But his real his real claim to famous defense.
Speaker 1: And you don't have anything on the court that can
Speaker 1: defend Damien Jones hasn't played sixty and sixty games. His
Speaker 1: whole career just just screams thirty four games. Mr. Play
Speaker 1: is why what then? Or something funny like what play?
Speaker 1: What move did we make to increase winning more than
Speaker 1: thirty two games? Last year? You want know some funny glasses?
Speaker 1: Patrick Beverley was like, yeah, my team been winning in practice.
Speaker 1: That wasn't because he a didn't start ladder. They probably
Speaker 1: beat the started ladd up ass. My homies got so
Speaker 1: bad because he like Glass is year a Laker fan.
Speaker 1: He said, But you're like pessimistic, and I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not pessimistic. I'm really like, I look at the facts.
Speaker 1: Last year we won thirty two games. There's no reason
Speaker 1: to believe we're gonna win thirty six what like. But
Speaker 1: here's the thing, they can win thirty nine to forty games,
Speaker 1: right because the lineups are gonna change. Bluster. It's not
Speaker 1: about Lebron being healthy. It's about a D being healthy.
Speaker 1: A D, as I said last season, a D is
Speaker 1: the glue that keeps the thing going even if anybody
Speaker 1: goes down. Because when he is healthy, he's the top five,
Speaker 1: top ten player. So if a D goes down, which
Speaker 1: more than life unfortunately that's probably going to be the case,
Speaker 1: then that's good. Like I said earlier, it's gonna push
Speaker 1: round Lebron. Westbrook to me, is out your three D
Speaker 1: the three of these Pat Barrett, I'll be either way.
Speaker 1: The fact that you have two guys under six ft
Speaker 1: three playing three and D when you have probably the
Speaker 1: six ft nine one of the best wings ever, means
Speaker 1: you're not going to win more than thirty five games.
Speaker 1: The fact that you're literally talking about two point guards
Speaker 1: playing a slash game when you have a wing defender,
Speaker 1: a wing like one of the best wings ever in
Speaker 1: Levon James, and you got him playing where they should
Speaker 1: be playing. Those guys and combo three and d guys,
Speaker 1: it's fucking hilarious. Yeah, and you wonder why we can't win.
Speaker 1: For the game, Pat Bath shooting in the corner. West
Speaker 1: Brooks shooting in the corner. That's what we're doing. Huh.
Speaker 1: The thing with the legacy is even like last year,
Speaker 1: which have been saying the whole year, it's like what
Speaker 1: I thought was gonna happen was Lebron was gonna be
Speaker 1: off ball more. They was gonna let Russ handle, let
Speaker 1: Russ do his thing, let Russ crash. It would also
Speaker 1: take stress off lebron body. But then when they came
Speaker 1: into the season even like again again, like to play
Speaker 1: against fucking Memphis. I've said it a cover times, to
Speaker 1: play against Memphis when I think it was Russ was
Speaker 1: in the corner and like Malik Munk didn't pass him
Speaker 1: the ball, but they had Russ inbounding the ball in
Speaker 1: the first place, so the other place he could go
Speaker 1: to was a corner. Nigga, Lebron, take the fucking ball out.
Speaker 1: If you you could actually shoot the ball, you actually
Speaker 1: on the lowest the keys, might be the best shoot
Speaker 1: on the team. You should be in the corner. What's
Speaker 1: crazy is We're not going to do what we did
Speaker 1: last year grew when I told y'all how this was
Speaker 1: going to play out. Waste our time imagining what could be.
Speaker 1: We're gonna focus on what we know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Can we all agree on it? So we all disagree
Speaker 1: on how many games? Let me, y'all think they playing,
Speaker 1: Patty TP think they six round six seed, Pete saying
Speaker 1: how many games? I'm the little man on the total pot,
Speaker 1: So let me ask you this question. So then that means,
Speaker 1: do we all agree that the Lakers whole focus is
Speaker 1: not making the playoffs with this line up at that point,
Speaker 1: and it's more about having Lebron pass magic? And can
Speaker 1: we all agree on that? Yes, the season about Lebron passing.
Speaker 1: It's all about Pastor Korea. It's Lebron, It's the United
Speaker 1: States and Lebron James. And that's the laymakers. I told like,
Speaker 1: I told you, I told you glasses, they've done when
Speaker 1: the championships for the next fine of six years, five
Speaker 1: six years, so it might be the next decade you
Speaker 1: mean championship. And this is this way longer than the
Speaker 1: years because we were done for the playoffs for the
Speaker 1: next two three years, there's making playoffs for the next
Speaker 1: two three years. Like, while I agree with you that
Speaker 1: a D is the glue of the team, the problem
Speaker 1: is he still plays around Lebron the offense and the
Speaker 1: defense is not. The defense goes to him to some degree,
Speaker 1: but the office doesn't. So where Lebron wants to play
Speaker 1: at is going to determine where a D plays at.
Speaker 1: That's why the team is not built around a D.
Speaker 1: When a D, when Lebron decides to drive, a D
Speaker 1: has to go into an in efficient position on the
Speaker 1: court to allow Lebron to do what he does. And
Speaker 1: because Lebron is chasing Michael Jordan's I mean Kareem Abdul
Speaker 1: Jabbar's record, not chasing, it is actually within the queue
Speaker 1: of things that's gonna happen. They're gonna put Lebron in
Speaker 1: the best position, let score the ball. I mean, he
Speaker 1: was at one time, you know, one of the greatest
Speaker 1: players you know in in the in the game today.
Speaker 1: I mean, so they're going to play to that strength.
Speaker 1: And that's why it will never be on a D
Speaker 1: being healthy because even with a D, he actually there's
Speaker 1: no way Fay didn't even stay healthy we're making him
Speaker 1: roll twenty feet away from the basket to the cup,
Speaker 1: and he's trying to have in efficient because a D
Speaker 1: is built around efficiency. So long as we're playing Lebron
Speaker 1: at the one, we're almost guaranteeing there's no reason for
Speaker 1: a D to be helped. We're almost guaranteeing because you
Speaker 1: you're saying he out. We can't allow Anthony David to
Speaker 1: shoot twenty footers all day, so he don't like the
Speaker 1: perfect and driving around a road come that puts him
Speaker 1: in danger his health. He's using his legs too much.
Speaker 1: So the narrative of ABD, you know, we're not playing
Speaker 1: the script because we're playing le Bron James literally, you know,
Speaker 1: whatever that was at that time or maybe about we
Speaker 1: didn't making sure he passes Red the Laker um getting
Speaker 1: into the top five, you know, you know, passing Magic
Speaker 1: Johnson as a Laker, those become the primary goals. Look
Speaker 1: at the lineup. We didn't get a lineup that cater
Speaker 1: Stagy strength end, A bunch of great defenders and guys
Speaker 1: defend their assault. I mean, we got a bunch of
Speaker 1: guys that can put on a Laker jersey. They fit
Speaker 1: the jersey they look like NBA athletes come out there,
Speaker 1: parade they self around just long enough for Lebron to
Speaker 1: pass Koem and for him to pass Magic Johnson. But
Speaker 1: I'll be honest, and this may be the harshest thing
Speaker 1: that I've ever said in my life. I hope it
Speaker 1: doesn't happen. You know, what does that happen? I hope
Speaker 1: he doesn't. Far not the harshest thing. This is by
Speaker 1: far the hardest thing. That's by far nowhere do you
Speaker 1: want to stay? What would have to happen for him
Speaker 1: not to pass him? Whatever would have to happen, What
Speaker 1: would have to happen. That might be the shittiest thing.
Speaker 1: And I never wish anything with greatness for men, But
Speaker 1: as a Laker fan, it is so hard for me
Speaker 1: to watch my squad sacrifice everything it was for one
Speaker 1: player's goal to accomplish something. And and don't get me wrong,
Speaker 1: I'm sure the Lakers have value by him that that
Speaker 1: that top position being filled by a Laker. They just
Speaker 1: did the same thing with Kobe years back. They didn't
Speaker 1: saying those last couple of Kobe years were all about
Speaker 1: it was back pay from earlier. It was. I actually agreed,
Speaker 1: it is back pay and as a fan, it is
Speaker 1: we old Kobe all of that Kobe later he wanted
Speaker 1: Did he volunteer those first years or was or was
Speaker 1: he He's paid handsomely keying keys. He was paid. He
Speaker 1: was paid for butts and seats. That's what he was
Speaker 1: paid for. And we played him and we paid him.
Speaker 1: And he still put butts in seats the last four
Speaker 1: years and Lebrono put butts in seats because he's putting
Speaker 1: the l A butts in l A seats and that's
Speaker 1: what l A buts like. I'm not disagreed. I totally
Speaker 1: understand the business. As I get older, I understand the
Speaker 1: business of basketball. Genie Bust takes the most criticism, but
Speaker 1: as a business owner, she is doing a fantastic job.
Speaker 1: The Lakers last year didn't make the damn play is
Speaker 1: and we have the second amount, we have the second
Speaker 1: most amount of TV games world TV all the time.
Speaker 1: Jennie busts if and whoever got what they said about
Speaker 1: Jenny Bust, Yeah, if you if you knoww she's not
Speaker 1: her dad and the level of competitiveness and putting butts
Speaker 1: and seats, but when it comes to getting that money,
Speaker 1: Genie bus is killer, and that's all the business of
Speaker 1: basketball is is making that coin. Well, let's also say
Speaker 1: Tim Harris is on that staff as well, because Tim
Speaker 1: Harris is one of negotiates the team TV deals and
Speaker 1: to make sure the team gets on television with these
Speaker 1: these national cable broadcast shout there is in addition, so
Speaker 1: in addition to that, but getting back to my man's point,
Speaker 1: most fans look at Yeah, they appreciate Lebron because he's
Speaker 1: a Laker, but it's not the same revere and it's
Speaker 1: not the same love as Kobe Bryant. And that's that's
Speaker 1: here he treated the way he was treated by the
Speaker 1: organization because he put the bus in seats. Because we
Speaker 1: watched Kobe Bryant brow up before Kobe come into the
Speaker 1: league the year before I was graduating high school. I
Speaker 1: grew up with code. Yeah that's my guy. Like I
Speaker 1: really feel like I know. When Kobe died, I almost cried,
Speaker 1: like I really know this nigga, Like my feelings was
Speaker 1: genuinely heard. I was like, holy shit, fuck my day up,
Speaker 1: I don't know this nigga. That's how close the relationship
Speaker 1: bond is between me and Kobe. Kobe can you promise
Speaker 1: me that we'll do an episode in the future examining
Speaker 1: the the emotional attachment that people have to the loss
Speaker 1: of celebrities that they've never met before, because I am
Speaker 1: fascinated with that, because I have none of that in me. Yes,
Speaker 1: there's a few guys. I cried with Magic announcing HIV
Speaker 1: I was ten. I cried tears. That might have been
Speaker 1: the third hardest time I've cried in my life. Like
Speaker 1: my mother died is number one. I cried for a month.
Speaker 1: She gave birth to me. Right. The second time I cried,
Speaker 1: I remember is when I is who The second time
Speaker 1: I cried like I cried. I mean, I've obviously cried,
Speaker 1: but I'm telling you, crying hard, you know when you
Speaker 1: really cry. Like my mom, I cried every day for
Speaker 1: a month. It took me three months to cry when
Speaker 1: my mom died, but I cried every day for a month.
Speaker 1: The second thing that I'm thinking of is when my
Speaker 1: grandma died. I cried for two days when magic. When
Speaker 1: Magic announced at HIV, I cried for an hour. I
Speaker 1: went and laid down in my bed and cried, my
Speaker 1: Nikki is about to die. That's what I thought. I
Speaker 1: was no, I'm not. I know it's funny, but this
Speaker 1: is the truth. Like I literally cry like that. My
Speaker 1: mom my mom is a is a restaural. She was
Speaker 1: a registered nurse and she did home care for terminally
Speaker 1: ill patience. So I was meeting people in the eighties,
Speaker 1: gay rich men with aids in the eighties when when
Speaker 1: I'm talk about real age, not the new aids, real agies,
Speaker 1: when you used to get these silver dollar shores all
Speaker 1: over your body, the syndrome not the virus. You're not
Speaker 1: this weird ship. I mean this punk, this new age
Speaker 1: and ship like, but I'm even the real age now
Speaker 1: ain't like it used to be. You can have age,
Speaker 1: you don't has got aged. Billy Porter be acting the
Speaker 1: movie he got ages. This then is walking around as
Speaker 1: my fucking will suit dresses on right now doing backflip.
Speaker 1: Not that age. I'm talking about the real deal ages.
Speaker 1: All school, you found out what Easy had that Nigga
Speaker 1: died the next day. Now it's easy at age that
Speaker 1: Nigga was dead in a week and none of this
Speaker 1: amicron age, the real ship, the real this is. This
Speaker 1: is nothing to joke about. I'm serious. I'm took my
Speaker 1: real age and you gotta remember when at that time,
Speaker 1: I'm ten, Ages was just knocking motherfucker's down. You're my
Speaker 1: holy ship. Age was a death sentence, and Magic announced
Speaker 1: it in my mind. Would looked at me and I
Speaker 1: started crying, and she trying to console me. And I
Speaker 1: was in my bed just crying, like my maga about
Speaker 1: to die. Man, you feel me third hardest I've ever cried.
Speaker 1: I cried for an hour, man, And I remember Magic
Speaker 1: having a thing. It was after it was after uh
Speaker 1: Chris shaw mall right, And it was right when that
Speaker 1: song the best Things in line for um free, and
Speaker 1: my mom brought me off there and Magic came to
Speaker 1: talk to everybody. He had like a thing. I don't
Speaker 1: know what it was for, y'all was too young to
Speaker 1: notice for but my mom knew how much I love Man.
Speaker 1: I had every magic Joy's magic shoes. It's Magic Johnson.
Speaker 1: He was Los Angeles. So she takes me there. She
Speaker 1: has to work in the area, in one of those
Speaker 1: rich people houses over there, you know, in Windsor. So
Speaker 1: she drops me off and I'm right there and Magic
Speaker 1: is right there. He's like, don't worry about it. They
Speaker 1: told me I couldn't beat the Celtics. I'm gonna beat
Speaker 1: this too, And that day restored faith that one day
Speaker 1: and guess what motherfucking thirty years later, guess who posed
Speaker 1: it for lak her pictures. That's why I laughed when
Speaker 1: niggas tell me Michael Jordan is better than Magic Johnson.
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan couldn't beat them pistons. My nigga beat Age.
Speaker 1: What do you beat the Lakers too? Anything? The SU
Speaker 1: broadcast was in a while, first time in the broadcasts.
Speaker 1: Every now he lucky my nigga, He lucky my niggat
Speaker 1: because my nigga would have bounced back and put tips
Speaker 1: on it, because that's what we do. But you know what,
Speaker 1: you know, he wouldn't know the differ when that nigga
Speaker 1: didn't do nothing to the nigga that did this ship
Speaker 1: to his daddy. My nigga beat Age. That ship should
Speaker 1: count for three rings. My nigga technically got eight rings. Gee,
Speaker 1: did you just say that he didn't do that to
Speaker 1: the digger that killed you daddy? And Magic knocked up
Speaker 1: my daddy. Y'all got some for him? How rocks from
Speaker 1: the boar? If you want, I'm gonna show you first
Speaker 1: in how we get down, nigga and fuck jelling, fuck money,
Speaker 1: do something. My nigga beat as that ship should count
Speaker 1: for three rings. My niggadn't got eight rings. Niggas couldn't
Speaker 1: be Aids in the early nineties. Of course, magic is
Speaker 1: the nigga that beat AIDS. Because niggas couldn't beat the Celtics.
Speaker 1: Niggas couldn't beat all this. Niggas can't win championships as rookie.
Speaker 1: Of course, it's a nigga who can't win championships as
Speaker 1: rookies be aids because he won a championship as a rookie.
Speaker 1: That is Laker pedigree. That is the standard of life.
Speaker 1: I grew up with Championship Ship, Man, championship Ship. I'm
Speaker 1: not no motherfucking nick myga at almost pagements. Nikki and
Speaker 1: Fit don't go on the grand scheme of winning beat
Speaker 1: the Pistons. Where the greatest quotes of all time? By
Speaker 1: the way, that's where the greatest quotes of all time?
Speaker 1: I mean, how many rings should ain't be names count for?
Speaker 1: You got AIDS in nineties and you beat it man,
Speaker 1: that I should count for five rings? Oh my god,
Speaker 1: that's hilarious. Nigga right now giving Nigga's buckets at twenty four.
Speaker 1: Don't make blood of this ship. Raise your hand if
Speaker 1: you would accept the blood infusion or transfusion from Magic
Speaker 1: John right now, that championship. Whatever he got his blood,
Speaker 1: whatever he got ball bullshit to a side, whatever run
Speaker 1: through his veins is championship ship. Ask Larry Bird, Oh
Speaker 1: Man as Age God, if you could talk to HIV
Speaker 1: and Age right now, they'd be like, Man, that nigga Magic.
Speaker 1: I thought I had him, but Nick came back, gave
Speaker 1: me thirty and the fourth My nigga lives thirty years. Nigga,
Speaker 1: It wasn't all these fancy aids medicines like it is now.
Speaker 1: Hip meant in all these new travon face and susceptibles
Speaker 1: and all these crazy medicines where you can you won't
Speaker 1: even know what you got is undetectable. My nigga Magic
Speaker 1: beat the real Age like he beat the real Celtics.
Speaker 1: Man said he gave Age thirty in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: and we finally gonna beat Magic. We finally gonna beat Magic.
Speaker 1: Put a fifty six nineteen and twelve assists at seventy
Speaker 1: field grow percentage seven steals in the finals my nigga
Speaker 1: probably gonnaut live me. Would anybody be surprised if Magic
Speaker 1: lived to be a hundred and twenty three? I would
Speaker 1: not be shocked and a little bit. I would not
Speaker 1: be shocked, Bro, I would not be shot like how
Speaker 1: to Magic, I live Bill Russell. That's crazy when you're
Speaker 1: thinking about Massic. I live Bill Russell. Bro Magic, I
Speaker 1: live Bill. You don't even be looking like he gets
Speaker 1: the cold no more, he don't even get a cold.
Speaker 1: That's because he's Yes, he can't get a cold because
Speaker 1: he has age. I don't know, man, if you would
Speaker 1: be like ten horse pills of what do you call it? Of?
Speaker 1: Like immune defense cocktails every day for three years. Man,
Speaker 1: my nigga is a champion, Pete, he ain't Arthur ash
Speaker 1: and all that. Man, This nig is a champion. Shout
Speaker 1: out to Arthur and rest is so man, Magic is
Speaker 1: another You say all this to say that Lebron is
Speaker 1: nothing like Magic. That's not fair, of course not but
Speaker 1: that's not fair. Lebron James, Lebron James. I'm happy for
Speaker 1: all this success. I just don't sound like it. Well,
Speaker 1: it's because it's like at the at the fucking you
Speaker 1: know what. At times, it's contrived and it's at the
Speaker 1: expense of winning. Fans of winning, it seems like magic.
Speaker 1: Johnson beat ages and proverbially speaking, Lebron James gave the
Speaker 1: Lakers age Loky, it's been pretty bad. Pretty add it's
Speaker 1: pretty He's kind of gonna leave that girl that's on
Speaker 1: this way out. It's pretty bad. All I'm saying. All
Speaker 1: I'm saying is I understand the Lakers have to do business.
Speaker 1: Like I get it. If I own the Lakers, Genie
Speaker 1: would be the person I would hire. She's making the
Speaker 1: right decisions to make the money. You know, I'm spoiled
Speaker 1: by I'm spoiled by Jerry Buss. I'm spoiled by her
Speaker 1: daddy who was And she's trying, you know, she's trying
Speaker 1: to win, and she's, you know, trying to do business.
Speaker 1: But it's a tough. So I totally understand as a
Speaker 1: Laker fan why we have to bring Lebron James back.
Speaker 1: I totally get it. But we do have to come
Speaker 1: into a place to where we stop being ridiculous. Forty
Speaker 1: seven games, forty it's over. It's ober Bro, there's there's
Speaker 1: It's not about personnel at this point, it's the core.
Speaker 1: You can't add random assortment guys and win fifteen games.
Speaker 1: You're not injuries away from winning fifteen more games where
Speaker 1: we wasn't winning games when they was on the court,
Speaker 1: which is the biggest problem. It's not an issue these
Speaker 1: niggas been playing since the turn of the fucking decade,
Speaker 1: then there for sure. It's at the term of the
Speaker 1: fucking decade, all of them men playing forever. They don't
Speaker 1: need to play a thousand games with that much talent
Speaker 1: to win fucking more games than they won. They just
Speaker 1: don't work well together. They need they need Marcus Smart.
Speaker 1: I bet you they win. Smart will help. I bet
Speaker 1: you they can't help. Mark help right now, right now, Davis,
Speaker 1: we win game markus Smart will help Mark and cut
Speaker 1: out to my nigga, Rus because Russ is fantastic. But
Speaker 1: we just got a bad office. All offense been bad
Speaker 1: since Lebron James put on a Lake of Jersey and
Speaker 1: before that. So at that point, yeah, I bet you,
Speaker 1: right now, if we tap Marcus Smart, we'll be in
Speaker 1: the fucking playoffs right fucking now, right now. I bet
Speaker 1: you if you called the Septics, I trade you Russell
Speaker 1: West but for MARKU Smart, they'll be like who They
Speaker 1: wouldn't say nothing, They say we got we we have
Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook for Marcus. That's how great Margaut Sparty. Marcus
Speaker 1: Smart is not going to Marcus Smart is not going
Speaker 1: to be a Hall of Famer. He won't. I think
Speaker 1: the only team taking it. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's another defensive Bloody Year. It's not gonna be all
Speaker 1: the fame. If he winning on the defensive Lady Year,
Speaker 1: he might, He's not gonna be all of fame. Russell
Speaker 1: Westbrook is the first ballot. As soon as they put
Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook name on the ballot, he's getting all the fame. Yes,
Speaker 1: as soon as they put his name. And he's not
Speaker 1: that he's not removed from his prime. Just we're using
Speaker 1: a quarter of Russell Westbrook, half of him. We're not
Speaker 1: allowing him to be the best version of himself. That's
Speaker 1: the point I was trying to make um. But so
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make sure we had this episode. So I
Speaker 1: said thirty four, Pete, you said how many? I just
Speaker 1: split it even five hundred forty one, Patty said forty,
Speaker 1: Tom said forty seven, and Nick sat thirty nine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna win. So it's like the price is right,
Speaker 1: price is always right. You have no chance, no chance.
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