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Speaker 1: All right, in honor of the shacklicious gummies, we have

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Speaker 1: to figure out a hot take that Shaq will stand by.

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Speaker 1: So I'm going to pitch three and you let's pick one. Uh,

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Speaker 1: number one, Lebron's longevity is more impressive than Michael Jordan's peak.

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Speaker 1: Number two Shack in today's game would average forty and

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Speaker 1: never have to play defense. And Victor Webban Yama is

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Speaker 1: going to an MVP before Luka Doncic. Which hot take

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Speaker 2: Well, I would definitely average forty. I'm not known for

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Speaker 2: defense anyway, so that's probably true.

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Speaker 1: Top tened blocks though.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can block a shot, but I'm not known

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Speaker 1: Roy, what do you think of the whole generational divide

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Speaker 1: between and I don't mean to call you an old head,

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Speaker 1: but old heads and you both think that each generation stinks.

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Speaker 2: I don't like it. It's a lot.

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Speaker 3: I don't like the comparisons, the Lebron and Jordans, and

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Speaker 3: they ain't gonna never play together. You ain't gonna never

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Speaker 3: have a time machine. And it's like you're making people choose,

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Speaker 3: and it's like somehow now I can't enjoy both. I

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Speaker 3: can't like like somebody like me who got to watch

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Speaker 3: both eras in their peak. How crazy is that? Like,

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Speaker 3: that's not I still would argue that longevity is more

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Speaker 3: impressive than peak, and you know, but then you look

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Speaker 3: at the accolades that Jordan got in a shorter amount

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Speaker 3: of time. So it's just a matter are you measuring hardware?

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Speaker 3: Are you measuring stats?

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Speaker 2: I think it's simple though. Grew up watching Doctor j Magic, Mike,

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Speaker 2: greatness looks like. So you want me to see that

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Speaker 2: now and call it greatness? I can't, Like people help

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Speaker 2: me all your heart, bride. I played against Mike, beat

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Speaker 2: Mike in the old Arena. Like when I'm walking in

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Speaker 2: and you hit up. You see them later, the bulls

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Speaker 2: and you get scared. Yeah, I played in that there.

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Speaker 2: I played with Kobe. I helped Kobe come become who

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Speaker 2: I am. I've seen lebron so like you want me to.

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Speaker 2: You want me to look at this and say compare

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Speaker 2: when you give me over here some of that, then

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Speaker 2: I'll go ooh. But like all I'm saying now, I've

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Speaker 2: seen it before. I want to see more like Steph Curry,

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Speaker 2: haven't seen that before. That's why when I talk about him,

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Speaker 3: So you say so you think Lebron's longevity is a

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Speaker 3: byproduct of the change in the physicality of the game too.

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Speaker 2: Definitely, that's physical. Oh let's feel like they like like

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Speaker 2: right now you get a flag and fire, you get

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Speaker 2: fined and suspended, like guys ain't even follow her no more.

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Speaker 2: Back before I played, it was crazy. But when I played,

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Speaker 2: it was probably more physical inn But you know, people

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Speaker 2: get mad. It's just a product of what I see.

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Speaker 2: I've seen what greatness is been there play with him.

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Speaker 2: It's I don't see that all the time over here.

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Speaker 2: So you want me to give me the same problem

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Speaker 2: with giving them that happens. You call it hate if

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Speaker 2: you ain't great and I'm great, how can I hate

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Speaker 2: I'm in the building, You're not in the bills. I

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Speaker 2: It's just and I don't understand. Oh yeah, you know

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Speaker 2: I want to see be great, and I'm gonna always

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Speaker 2: these mos out just because they making four hundred millions

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Speaker 2: of can't play and they know it. In any they

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Speaker 2: I can't play up Joker could play, NICs could play Dame.

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Speaker 2: A couple of these guys who play, but a lot

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Speaker 2: Jason could play. He's all right, I'm not going to

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Speaker 2: for that arrested. Did you say arrested? Two hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty millions for that? Got my face robbing people? Man,

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Speaker 1: The salary is the part that I think pisses you off.

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Speaker 2: I can't play man after they're terrified. I gotta laugh here, Roy, shit,

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Speaker 2: you like Lucas game. I like Luca. Luca can play

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Speaker 2: if you could pass my hate test and then still

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Speaker 2: I just can't play. I used to hate Luca until

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Speaker 2: I seen him play him like this white boy. All right,

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Speaker 2: you guys a Western Conference last year because because remember

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Speaker 2: I don't play with some of the greatest, so it

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Speaker 2: So if you do that consistently and then pick it up,

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Speaker 1: When you see a player in person, and let's see

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Speaker 2: Not in pregame because I look for like I was

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Speaker 2: telling my son this other It's three things in basketball.

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Speaker 2: Always play hard, never let them. I'll play you and

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Speaker 2: know what you're doing. So if you play hard, you

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Speaker 1: That's why you love us.

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Speaker 2: I love us. Just play hard. He played the right way.

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Speaker 3: So is it Lebron's fault that he came up in

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Speaker 3: a different era. No, listen, because of this era, somebody

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Speaker 2: But so Lebron, Lebron was one of those students that

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Speaker 2: we were coming up. But Lebron I was right there.

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Speaker 2: He was a young kid. He's winning championships. Lebron was

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Speaker 2: Then I joined Lebron and after that then Lebron stopped

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Speaker 2: becoming Lebron. So he was there and and they're playing

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Speaker 2: never seen. He's great. He gets propped three rings four,

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Speaker 2: they don't get Bro. They know who they are. I'm

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Speaker 2: not gonna call him out as don't want to have

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Speaker 2: We're talking about the prop we're talking about the we see.

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Speaker 2: I don't care. Nobody say not. If I'm paying five

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Speaker 2: I want to see get dunked on fights craw ooh ah.

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Speaker 2: The fans going crazy.

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Speaker 1: Like interesting too, because I mean I just covered March

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Speaker 1: watching the game and you're just hit not not that

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Speaker 1: It's drive kick, drive kick or I feel like you

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Speaker 3: Do you think Check and Wemby will slowly change the

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Speaker 2: No, And I hate putting myself at four it in time,

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Speaker 2: but I will make both of them quit. You make

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Speaker 2: Wemby quit. Yeah, I'm gonna back at the album right

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Speaker 2: come out. You know they're gonna do all night shoot

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Speaker 2: Any guy that's seven four five to shoot to Browne jumpers,

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Speaker 2: they don't want that funk. That's just to me. That's

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Speaker 2: just my opinion. If I'm seven four, I'm trying to

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Speaker 3: They're having bigs. I can shoot on the perimeter. That's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you got to shoot a hip percentage like

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Speaker 2: and ain't no being shooting above fifty percent?

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Speaker 1: Yo, Kitch is forty three percent from three this year.

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Speaker 1: That's that's that's pretty good five in the NBA. But

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Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna be down there sixty five

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Speaker 2: First player game, I'm trying to knock your teeth out

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Speaker 2: your michause I know you're not gonna fight.

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Speaker 1: Did you ever get a flagrant foul for that?

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Speaker 2: All the time? All the time. This is great.

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Speaker 3: This is good that that knowledge, that style of play

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Speaker 1: If you think about shock Shocks, it's like a Marvel character.

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Speaker 2: His name is Marcus Ponder. Oh yeah, you showed me

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Speaker 2: this kid. I hope he like I hope when he

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Speaker 1: About Shack too, It's like, here's this kid raised on

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Speaker 2: Hype to like Ben Simmons, like they could come play.

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Speaker 1: Lunchables and night trades and stuff like, we're never gonna

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Speaker 2: Pay me two fifty to pass up all game. I'll

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Speaker 3: We't even getting the load management last quick when you

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Speaker 3: AAU college level they have to allow that aggression to

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Speaker 2: so he's just he's just he's just a mean kid.

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Speaker 2: So I mean, I like big, big guys that play mean.

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Speaker 2: That's what I like.

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Speaker 1: But we talked about it with the Ajdabanza kid getting

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Speaker 1: because you gave me seven. You gotta get more. But

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Speaker 2: No, that's it. It's called more. It's called greedy. Be

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