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Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: My guest today is Jim Treacher. Jim is the.

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Speaker 1: Host of the podcast Que the Crickets and has a

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Speaker 1: substack at Jimtreacher dot substack dot com.

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Speaker 2: Hi Jim, so nice to have you on.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Yes, well why not?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Why not?

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Speaker 3: It happened exactly.

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Speaker 2: I can't think of any bad things that could happen.

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Speaker 2: You and I know each other online a long long time.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking about that today, and I love interviewing

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Speaker 1: people that I've known for a long time. But I

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Speaker 1: might not know there, you know, as my kids would say,

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Speaker 1: origin story. So tell me how you got into being

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Speaker 1: a comedy writer or would you self describe as a

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Speaker 1: comedy writer.

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Speaker 3: I have written comedy. I did that until recently. Well,

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Speaker 3: I started off like a lot of people blogging long

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Speaker 3: long tart of it. Yeah, me five or so years ago.

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Speaker 3: And I did that for a while, and then I

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Speaker 3: got hired by one crazy TV guy and did that

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Speaker 3: for a while, and then got hired by another crazy

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Speaker 3: TV guy, did that for a while. So now I'm podcasting.

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Speaker 3: I just started. Actually it was seven weeks ago today

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Speaker 3: that I started podcasting, so this is all very new

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Speaker 3: to me.

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Speaker 2: Amazing, and I think you're you're doing a great job.

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you.

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Speaker 1: So you're a little kid and you think I'm funny

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Speaker 1: I want to write comedy or how did this happen?

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Speaker 3: Well, I was sitting in the back of the class,

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Speaker 3: trying not to get called on mostly smart. Yeah, but yeah,

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Speaker 3: I was the kid that was always I could always

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Speaker 3: think of something funny to say that would make another

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Speaker 3: kid not want to hit me, or sometimes make them

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Speaker 3: want to hit me. Sure, but yeah, humor was a

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Speaker 3: way to kind of smooth things over. And yeah, that's

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Speaker 3: kind of been the through line my whole life is

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Speaker 3: if you can make somebody at least smile or chuckle

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Speaker 3: a little bit, they might be a little less likely

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Speaker 3: to attack you physically or verbally or in any other way.

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Speaker 1: So I think that it's probably true. I talked about

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Speaker 1: this with Dave Barry when he was on the show.

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Speaker 1: But I think people have started to be less funny

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Speaker 1: in their writing. Like when I first got into writing,

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Speaker 1: everybody was trying to make it humorous or at least

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Speaker 1: a little bit like I mean, it wasn't full on

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Speaker 1: comedy writing, but it was you'd want to make a

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Speaker 1: turn of phrase that would make somebody smile while writing

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Speaker 1: about the war in Iraq.

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Speaker 2: It could be anything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I feel like there's been a real decline

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Speaker 2: Do you see that or is that just me?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I've seen Yeah, I guess. So, I

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Speaker 3: know that it's tougher to sell it. It's tougher to

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Speaker 3: get people to pay attention if you're not, you know,

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Speaker 3: angry all the time, or or.

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Speaker 2: That might be it.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it might be. I don't know, and not to

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Speaker 3: say I'm never angry, but I do try to leave

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Speaker 3: in it a little bit with some kind of oh

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Speaker 1: When I was peak angry during COVID, I tried to

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Speaker 1: make it funny so that people could kind of connect,

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Speaker 1: right Like that was even more important when I was

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Speaker 1: at my angriest.

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Speaker 2: My kids aren't going to school.

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Speaker 1: I have to kind of make this amusing for you

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Speaker 1: to read, to you understand how serious this is, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm also thinking of like Mark Stein. He

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Speaker 1: but he's like, you know, he's had some very bad

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Speaker 1: things happened to him in the last decade plus and

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Speaker 1: I just think that's taking a toll. And other other

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, and I think in my case it's been

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Speaker 3: a way to, like you say, you know, when bad

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Speaker 3: have happened to me. I kept working after I got

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Speaker 3: hit by a car. And if anybody doesn't a last story,

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Speaker 3: we don't need to get into that, but just to

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Speaker 3: think you're right that people have kind of lost their

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Speaker 3: if it's just who the president was at the time

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Speaker 2: Jage Bush was funny, George W. Bush. Actually, so is Obama.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes I find Obama not to be funny. Yeah, that great.

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Speaker 2: No Trump is hilarious.

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Speaker 3: No, yes, him, I don't take anything away from him.

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Speaker 1: No, he's full and hilarious. But you know, Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: was not funny. But I would say Barack Obama sometimes

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Speaker 1: was funny. Yeah, Like, I don't think Barack Obama was

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Speaker 1: And I didn't think he said anything memorable. But I

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Speaker 1: It's how it's for sure, how I connect to people.

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Speaker 3: I think he probably regrets that White House Correspondence dinner

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Speaker 3: a little bit. Yea his face. That might have been

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Speaker 2: Was the line like, at least some called president.

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Speaker 3: Something like that? Yeah, well that was that was on

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Speaker 3: Jimmy Kimmel. I think he did. He dropped the mic.

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Speaker 3: He was like, at least I could still call myself president.

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Speaker 2: Right yeah? Yeah. So where did you grow up?

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Speaker 3: Well, I was born in New Jersey and I grew

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Speaker 1: Yeah, is that a big cultural distinction between the two places.

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Speaker 3: Well, I learned to talk in New Jersey, New York,

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Speaker 3: upstate New York, and then we moved to Indiana when

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Speaker 3: When I went back home to my family, my mom's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, amazing.

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Speaker 1: I lived in Georgia during the Hermann Kane campaign in

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Speaker 2: It sounds so New York, it's you know.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's interesting how you can go not even

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think TV has helped with that.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it has actually, but it's also diluted all

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Speaker 3: Least English speakers, the English speakers. But that's a that's

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Speaker 2: That is another podcast.

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Speaker 1: So so you did always want to be a writer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to do something. I was always reading

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Speaker 3: I knew I want to do something with writing. I was.

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Speaker 1: And it was an amazing time. You could put up

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Speaker 2: It was great. I love that era.

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Speaker 1: That was the And you know when people ask me now,

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Speaker 3: I started a blog, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe Twitter, I don't know. But the Twitter thing is,

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Speaker 1: it's very different and it doesn't showcase your writing very much.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know how kids do it these days.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think podcasting is kind of the modern equivalent

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Speaker 2: But it's interesting because you could Yeah, I would say,

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Speaker 2: you could read like ten blogs. You can't really listen

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Speaker 3: That's true.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's you know, when I started, when I

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Speaker 1: But if you have a kind of something that you

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Speaker 3: Kind of the way I feel about it right now.

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Speaker 3: It's more for me at this point than anybody else.

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Speaker 1: Having a conversation, having a you know, my daughter one

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Speaker 1: time was like, going to go record your podcast, talk

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Speaker 2: Right, yeah, right, you know, I remember.

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Speaker 1: When I found out that Jim Treacher wasn't actually your name, right,

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Speaker 1: our mutual friend Natasha. First of all, I didn't understand

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Speaker 1: I think I referred to you as Jim Treacher and

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Speaker 3: Matt Laibash said the same thing. He was wanted to

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Speaker 3: call me that because of the rapper Tretch tr Ah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, of course, yeah, but it was as because

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Speaker 2: I hate you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're right, exactly down with oppuh. Yeah, it was

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Speaker 3: just a pseudonym that kind of got out of hand.

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Speaker 3: And my real name is Sean Medlock. I don't make

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Speaker 3: I don't mind saying it, I think, And I don't

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Speaker 3: really like my pseudonym. It's I'm kind of I feel

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I see you as Jim Treacher, like I

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Speaker 1: find it very hard to not like, you know, I

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Speaker 1: had you in my calendar today even though I know

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Speaker 2: I had you in as Jim Treacher.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be this podcast is going to be

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Speaker 2: I don't know it. Does it not fit you? I

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Speaker 1: back on the Carol Marcowitch Show. It was a five

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Speaker 2: Right something Sure, well, Jim, I have loved this conversation.

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Speaker 1: a long time. Anybody who doesn't follow Jim Teacher check

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Speaker 1: him out at JT L O L and definitely subscribe

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Speaker 2: Cue the Crickets. Leave us here with your best tip

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Speaker 2: from my listeners on how they can improve their lives.

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Speaker 3: Work. Work every day on something that you want to do,

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Speaker 2: I love it and I could do that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, why not? Hold your should be a pressional lobby folder.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to feel for I love you. What

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Speaker 2: is Jim Treacher JT l O L on X Jim Treacher.

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Speaker 1: Dot substack dot com and check out Cue the Crickets.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Jim.

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