WEBVTT - Talkin Cowboys: What Is Next At Running Back?

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<v Speaker 1>This he's Talking Cowboys training live from Dallas Cowboys Training

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<v Speaker 1>Camp in Hawksnard, California. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Bromis,

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<v Speaker 1>Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones. And it is day six

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<v Speaker 1>of Zeke watch here at Cowboys training camp in Oxnard, California,

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<v Speaker 1>Day number five of the Cowboys being in Oxnard, Californifornia

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<v Speaker 1>for a full day, Day number four of practice, day

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<v Speaker 1>number two in pads, and day number one of Travis

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<v Speaker 1>Frederick in pads and day number one of these second

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<v Speaker 1>Alfred Morris era of Dallas Cowboys Football. Welcome to Talking Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>That's quite an opening that covered a few things anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of math. Yeah, I knew there was a

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<v Speaker 1>reason I brought this. Get your popcorn ready for this show.

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<v Speaker 1>We brought props to the set today. I'm ready popcorn, popcorn.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it. Appreciate that you, Terrell. They just pop

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<v Speaker 1>popcorn over here. They did one of the tents, and

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<v Speaker 1>the fellow who popped the popcorn asked if I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>any popcorn, and I said, no, it's too early. I

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<v Speaker 1>brought yourself. There you go. Actually this is from last night.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, all right. Actually copcorn's better after it sits

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<v Speaker 1>a while. Okay. It's also day number one of a

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<v Speaker 1>morning practice. Yeah, yes, okay, the first morning practice of

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<v Speaker 1>this two thy nineteen Cowboys training camp. So we it's

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<v Speaker 1>sort of like a pregame show here as the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>will be on the practice field. It's technically as scheduled

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<v Speaker 1>to start at ten forty five Pacific time. Jason Garrett

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<v Speaker 1>will be a little later today three o'clock Central time,

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<v Speaker 1>one o'clock Pacific time, but a lot of Cowboys making

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<v Speaker 1>the news right now. Yeah, it is kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>one of those days where a nice added practice. Yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>we got to see some guys. I thought there was

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<v Speaker 1>some really good efforts buy some young players. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>I saw a backup quarterback throw the ball a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit better. Yesterday. Some guys who were talking about maybe

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<v Speaker 1>need to elevate their game kind of didn't elevate their

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<v Speaker 1>game right out of the gates. So yeah, it's there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to get to, a lot of different storylines.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the great thing about training camp practice, though,

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<v Speaker 1>is that you can go from station to station and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of pick out one or two things. I know

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday I was talking about oh, I was anxious to

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<v Speaker 1>see Travis Frederick. And then we get to the press

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<v Speaker 1>conference and then Travis Frederick not practicing, but him going

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<v Speaker 1>to day. But I was really really excited though about

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<v Speaker 1>just overall those guys being on the field. You saw

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<v Speaker 1>some good competition. We saw some one on one with

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<v Speaker 1>the offense and defensive line. We saw some seven on seven.

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<v Speaker 1>We saw some receivers run some nice routes, make some

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<v Speaker 1>plays down the field. Quarterbacks get him the ball, good

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<v Speaker 1>block good, you know, good blitzing. So good, A good

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<v Speaker 1>overall day to get started in camp. We should petition

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<v Speaker 1>for them to have this practice in the morning instead

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<v Speaker 1>of the afternoon, because then the rest of the day

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<v Speaker 1>we have something tangible to talk about to write about,

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<v Speaker 1>instead of having to wait till five to thirty or

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<v Speaker 1>six o'clock, which is eight o'clock back home. The morning practice,

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<v Speaker 1>I think is good. I'm anxious to see Travis Frederick.

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<v Speaker 1>We were yesterday until we found out that they were

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<v Speaker 1>going to give him a veteran day off. And the

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<v Speaker 1>reason they did it that way is because they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want him practicing two days in a row in pads

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<v Speaker 1>the first time in a year, So they just said,

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<v Speaker 1>let's give him the veteran day off on Monday practice

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<v Speaker 1>of them on Tuesday, it's a natural team day off

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<v Speaker 1>on Wednesday, and then he gets a day to rest

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<v Speaker 1>before they go back in pads on Thursday. Didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>him in two pad practices in a row, So there

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<v Speaker 1>was some there was some common sense to their decision

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<v Speaker 1>to keep him out yesterday totally made sense. Yeah, Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Looney filled in nicely for him yesterday too. If you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of took up Joe Looney did a nice job.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you saw. I think the one on ones right,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he saw the overall strength of the offensive

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<v Speaker 1>line even without Travis in there. I mean I was waiting.

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<v Speaker 1>Rod Marinelli said a couple of days ago, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to see Tyrn Smith put on the pads against Robert Quinn.

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<v Speaker 1>And when there was one on ones, it was seventy

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<v Speaker 1>seven round one, two and three. Yeah, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>Quinn got him once, but he had trouble staying on

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<v Speaker 1>his feet against Tyrn. And I thought the overall line

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<v Speaker 1>was impressive. However, it's a deep defensive line rotation. They'll

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<v Speaker 1>have their days. And there were some young defensive lineman

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of rookies stood out to me, Daniel Wise

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<v Speaker 1>and Mickey Well, Dorance Armstrong guy I'm watching as a

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<v Speaker 1>second year guy. Absolutely, But keep an eye on Jalen

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<v Speaker 1>Jelks too. I know he's running about third team right now,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, but he's he's rangey, he's got some quickness.

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<v Speaker 1>Mitch Hyadd had a hard time, and Mitch Hyadd is

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<v Speaker 1>an All American tackle from Clemson, you know, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>out here. And then Jolkes on the other side of

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<v Speaker 1>the country out there in Oregon. But yeah, a long lean.

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<v Speaker 1>I like what you're saying. Rob really did a nice

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<v Speaker 1>job of capturing that. Yes, did you see guys and

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<v Speaker 1>we know this is it's guys like Wise jokes if

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<v Speaker 1>they if they're fighting in their weight class, I say

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<v Speaker 1>this a lot. They're fighting in their weight class and

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<v Speaker 1>they have some production. Then all of a sudden you

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<v Speaker 1>see him maybe get a rep or two with the

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<v Speaker 1>twos or the ones that kind of see, okay, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we got some. We saw it last year with Antoine Woods,

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<v Speaker 1>even though that Travis Frederick was compromised with the illness,

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<v Speaker 1>still you started to see some things with Woods that wait,

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<v Speaker 1>he deserves an operation. Mickey Mickey saw this a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you ran into Jerry Jones about they said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>or Clancy Pendergrasser, one of those coaches said hey, that's

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<v Speaker 1>my guy. Keep an eye on him. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sure enough he found a way to make this football team.

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<v Speaker 1>So the early impressions were very good. I like John

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<v Speaker 1>Bay Johnson catching the ball, you know, over over, the

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<v Speaker 1>speed that he was able to double move, that he

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<v Speaker 1>was able to make on qu on a westery. I

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<v Speaker 1>love the fact that though that you got a ball

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<v Speaker 1>with a down the field with the Davis down there,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, him catching Reggie Davis adjusted on a ball

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<v Speaker 1>against a quality cornerback, you know with by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>that was Cooper Rush throwing that one. Yeah, he had

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<v Speaker 1>a good day and he had a real good day. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody was jumping on those guys in the OTAs, but

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<v Speaker 1>everybody forgot Maybe you didn't know, but everybody forgot that

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<v Speaker 1>when you get in the season, those guys don't get

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<v Speaker 1>to play, they don't get much work, yeah practice, And

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<v Speaker 1>so now you go through a season without much work,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe running the scout team, right, and then you go

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<v Speaker 1>from January to May with no work, right, And now

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, let's go play. Well, those guys

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<v Speaker 1>aren't going to be sharp, especially the quarterback position. But

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<v Speaker 1>the more he practiced, that last day in mini camp

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<v Speaker 1>was really good, best day. And then he started out

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<v Speaker 1>here really good. Absolutely, So I think they're start from

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<v Speaker 1>your And if you saw somebody just signed a quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody got hurt and they brought in a and some

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<v Speaker 1>guy named Joe Callahan was signed. Right, so let's say,

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<v Speaker 1>well you better go out and free aid and see

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<v Speaker 1>and get a guy. Well, those are the guys that

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<v Speaker 1>got signed. So the slim pickings out there. Well, speaking

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<v Speaker 1>to signings though, the Alfred More signing, yes, let's get

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<v Speaker 1>to that. I want to ask you guys a question

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<v Speaker 1>I could about Alfred More signed did why Why did

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<v Speaker 1>Brian brought us I'm talking a third person. Why did

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<v Speaker 1>Brian brought us? Buy into? Next man up? And let's

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<v Speaker 1>see the young guys participate. I got it. I got

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<v Speaker 1>an answer for you. The four guys they have here

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<v Speaker 1>at running back, sure, their total NFL carries is six

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<v Speaker 1>okay for sixteen yards? For sixteen yards. And my guess

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<v Speaker 1>is they're sitting there looking at this and they go

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<v Speaker 1>all right, we're gonna give these guys a chance, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>but we better have an insurance policy. And he was

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<v Speaker 1>on his way to New Orleans right for an interview

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<v Speaker 1>or workout or whatever talk. And it's like, Okay, if

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<v Speaker 1>that's what you think you want to do, you better

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<v Speaker 1>get him in here. It's probably not costing them, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and so, and that's where his base salary was last

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<v Speaker 1>year San Francisco. Yeah, no, I mean when the last

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<v Speaker 1>year with the Cowboys, right, last year for the San

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<v Speaker 1>Francisco was seven hundred ninety thousand, So he was basically

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<v Speaker 1>playing on the veteran exception. They probably didn't give him

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<v Speaker 1>a roster bone. That might be up to one point two. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm guessing up to one point two because I bet

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't give him a signing bonus. Yeah. I just

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<v Speaker 1>worry about the guarantees too, right, I mean, is he

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<v Speaker 1>gonna make the team and I don't. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>that's guaranteed just because they signed him last night or

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<v Speaker 1>will sign him, and I don't practice gets a reflection

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<v Speaker 1>on what these young guys have not at all far.

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<v Speaker 1>They were just looking for insurance and thought, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>last year when we started the season, we started with

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<v Speaker 1>a tight end group that had nine NFL catches nine

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, do we want to do that again? We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna start this season with wide receivers that don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a heck of a lot of experience. Do we want

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<v Speaker 1>to do that again? It wasn't a message to ze

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<v Speaker 1>brings in here. No, it's not like it's threatening the time.

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<v Speaker 1>The timing's interesting just because right after it out. But

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<v Speaker 1>Mickey makes a great point about New Orleans being interested

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<v Speaker 1>in him. I will say this to Brian's point. When

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<v Speaker 1>I first news first came out last night, surprised me

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<v Speaker 1>because we just watched Tony Pollard run really well out

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<v Speaker 1>there in practice, and I thought Mike Weber looked pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good too. Now it's one practice, and like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>Darius Jackson has the entire regular season career cary total,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was in one game against the Giants in

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<v Speaker 1>Week seventeen last year. So I get it, But like Brian,

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of expected maybe get you know, if this

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<v Speaker 1>Zeke thing keeps going, at least go through the first game,

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<v Speaker 1>see how these guys play against San Francisophia. I bet

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<v Speaker 1>Alfred Morris was on their short list and in case

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<v Speaker 1>somebody got hurt or whatever. And then when they saw

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<v Speaker 1>that he's going to New Orleans might sign there, they said, well, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we need to speed up the process on it. Plus,

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<v Speaker 1>you go into camp and you've got five running backs there. Okay. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>unexpectedly one of them didn't show up for camp. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so you've got a spot there where you've got reps

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<v Speaker 1>available to. Will McClay was just on the radio and

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<v Speaker 1>said basically the same thing every team. I think you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they've got five six backs in camp. Competition not guaranteed

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<v Speaker 1>to stop progress. But you're right, Brian, I mean those

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<v Speaker 1>reps are going not as many are going to Tony

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<v Speaker 1>Pollard now, right, so or Weber or if Pollard, Park's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get the work no matter what. Weber's the one

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<v Speaker 1>that I was kind of thinking now is him and

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<v Speaker 1>Chun Those guys are the ones that are not going

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<v Speaker 1>to get his man, and we'll see how much work

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<v Speaker 1>he gets. And the other thing on this whole deal

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<v Speaker 1>is it didn't cost him a roster spot because they

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<v Speaker 1>had an opening because Zeke got put on did not report,

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<v Speaker 1>so that doesn't count against your nineties. So they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have to cut anybody in a Kellen Moore offense, how

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<v Speaker 1>much theally gonna be thrown to the running back? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>they used to running back in the swing, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they used him as part of Yeah, exactly. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>look at one of the best plays they had out

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<v Speaker 1>there yesterday was a nice little screen pass off you

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<v Speaker 1>know Mickey that were talking about it coming back from

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<v Speaker 1>the dime hall. A lot of a lot of moving

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<v Speaker 1>parts on that swing and they get lining out and

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<v Speaker 1>they get it, they get the back kind of sneaking

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<v Speaker 1>out there. So, yeah, it's gonna be screens, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be swings. It can might be that Texas out of

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<v Speaker 1>those things that we've seen from Zeke before. They're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>figure out that Pollard can catch the foot exactly. They're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna figure that out. And what's the biggest knock against

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<v Speaker 1>Alfred Morris in his career can't catch the ball. And

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<v Speaker 1>so it's he's just a guy who they bring in

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<v Speaker 1>that they're familiar with, great locker room guy, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>insurance and basically knows the offense right. He knows are

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<v Speaker 1>not having to teach three other guys the offense. But

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<v Speaker 1>but I wonder though, like from an opportunity standpoint. Could

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<v Speaker 1>he have more opportunity in New Orleans or is he

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted to be here? Well, they lost ingram Uh,

0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:50.640
<v Speaker 1>he left, and so there's a need in New Orleans. Yeah,

0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:53.120
<v Speaker 1>his family currently live. Well, he was in San Francisco.

0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:55.800
<v Speaker 1>His family still stayed behind it Frisco and left as

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<v Speaker 1>with the rest of us. We love living in Dallas.

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<v Speaker 1>He loves living in the Yes, yes, you went love

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<v Speaker 1>living in New Orleans. I would myself. I just I

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<v Speaker 1>just a month May I bought into let the young

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<v Speaker 1>guys play. And I appreciate your explanation, I really do.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it was from somebody at the top of

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<v Speaker 1>the food chain, So I appreciate your explanation. But I

0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:20.640
<v Speaker 1>was I was thinking. I was saying, Okay, let's see

0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:24.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, let's see Jackson and I understand the carries.

0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:27.960
<v Speaker 1>Let's see Jackson, Let's see Pollard, Let's see Webber, Let's

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<v Speaker 1>see Chun. You know, let's see these guys get work.

0:12:30.640 --> 0:12:33.440
<v Speaker 1>Let's see that crazy goal line drill that they run

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<v Speaker 1>in full pads, where you know, backs trying to bang

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<v Speaker 1>it in there behind the line. You know, let's see that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I wanted to see and I and I again,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't think the reps are gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>from Pollard. I think the reps are gonna go from

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<v Speaker 1>Webber and Chun. But I I and met and you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, the reps and at the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>day might even go from Jackson, right that I mean it,

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<v Speaker 1>because Pollard's already getting some first team reps. Par Pol's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get reps no matter what. He doesn't need that

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<v Speaker 1>many reps. Alfred Morris didn't. Let's see, let's see. You

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<v Speaker 1>know they want him ready, right right, But I don't

0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:12.960
<v Speaker 1>know he's going to get so many reps. He's not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get Ezekiel Elliott reps as well. I think I

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<v Speaker 1>think that they had him if the Zeke thing went

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<v Speaker 1>on into the end of training camp, they had him. Yeah,

0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:23.960
<v Speaker 1>and and the and Alfred Morris was on their list

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<v Speaker 1>that okay, he's the guy that they would they would

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<v Speaker 1>sign at the end of camp or whenever it got Okay,

0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:31.400
<v Speaker 1>we're two weeks out from the season. We need a

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<v Speaker 1>guy just to make sure, just to cover ourselves here.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when the Saints made a play for and

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<v Speaker 1>they said, well, we gotta go ahead and get him

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<v Speaker 1>now and it doesn't cost us anything, you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>and now we monitor, Okay, whose reps are is he taking?

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<v Speaker 1>And maybe maybe they'll ease him into where he's not

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<v Speaker 1>taking that many reps from guys early. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>one reason you thought it would be next man up

0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:55.760
<v Speaker 1>is because they have done that at certain spots on

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<v Speaker 1>the roster. Mickey mentioned tied end last year, which didn't

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<v Speaker 1>work out, not at first by committee, receiver by committee.

0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:04.000
<v Speaker 1>I was going there too. Now they you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>realized that wasn't working by mid season. Sure, Um, they've

0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:09.880
<v Speaker 1>done it at safety too, Xavier Woods. They've given him

0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:12.840
<v Speaker 1>an opportunity and now he's stepped into that spot. So

0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:16.920
<v Speaker 1>they've they've tried to let young guys step in. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with you. I mean I was surprised at first.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's to see how it shakes out though. Look, next

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<v Speaker 1>man up is good in theory, but it depends on

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<v Speaker 1>who the next man is. Yeah, but we don't know yet.

0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:33.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's right. But now they've got a known quantity,

0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:36.640
<v Speaker 1>and that doesn't mean he's automatically next man up. He's

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<v Speaker 1>an insurance policy. Remember when Tony got hurt and everybody

0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:42.160
<v Speaker 1>was saying they got to go sign a quarterback, gotta

0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:45.320
<v Speaker 1>go get yeah whoever, fols whatever, and they just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stuck with it. And the thirty two million dollar

0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:52.720
<v Speaker 1>man behind him, Yeah who knew right? So sometimes sure,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean there's times, Mick where sometimes you argue, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just see what the young guys have. I mean, that'solue,

0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:03.560
<v Speaker 1>that's there is, there's value. They're all young, every one

0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:05.880
<v Speaker 1>of them is young. So should the Cowboys be concerned

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<v Speaker 1>at all that Zeke's going to Cabo to train? No,

0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:12.840
<v Speaker 1>it's nice and hot. There doesn't As a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 1>they shut down the town it during the day at

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<v Speaker 1>this time of year because it's so hot, like the

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<v Speaker 1>banks shut down. Everybody takes siesta. Hmmmm. And you know

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<v Speaker 1>when I and when I was and when I was there,

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<v Speaker 1>I go, well, where does everybody go? It's so hot,

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<v Speaker 1>and they go, well, we try to get into the hotels.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like the idea, Yeah, I really don't. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>admit it. I don't like the idea. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>if you want Ezekiel Elliott, and he's got a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of fans on his side anyway, if you to me,

0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:50.280
<v Speaker 1>stay in Frisco train, be around, be visible that way,

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<v Speaker 1>if that's what you want to do, If that's how

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<v Speaker 1>you want to do it, I think going to Cabo

0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:56.840
<v Speaker 1>is not necessarily the most ideal place. If you told

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<v Speaker 1>me you were going to Siberia or someplace like that

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<v Speaker 1>where I feel like it would be harsh and brutal

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<v Speaker 1>and tough and like Rocky four. Yeah, I'm training in

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<v Speaker 1>the Amazon Jump. That's what That's what Cabo is. See,

0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:12.400
<v Speaker 1>Cabo has got this idea. It's a vacation because of

0:16:12.680 --> 0:16:16.120
<v Speaker 1>and the agent has a place there. Ye, seek also

0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:19.440
<v Speaker 1>takes all his friends down there with you. Well, we

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<v Speaker 1>need to wait and see what TMZ comes up with

0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:24.600
<v Speaker 1>down there. Well, I'm sure they've dispatched somebody. Well, the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom line from an organizational standpoint is it doesn't matter

0:16:27.600 --> 0:16:31.040
<v Speaker 1>because he's dealing the cows are dealing with his agent,

0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:33.720
<v Speaker 1>not Zi. It's phone calls. Whatever it gets done, he

0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:35.760
<v Speaker 1>gets on a flight, he comes here. That's gonna be

0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:38.440
<v Speaker 1>roll whenever he gets here, whenever it gets done, if

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<v Speaker 1>it if it gets done sometime in training camp. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the optics aren't great. Is there great? Is there a

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<v Speaker 1>point in time you would consider trading him. Now, you

0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:49.640
<v Speaker 1>know that thought crossed my mind this morning. I was thinking,

0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:52.080
<v Speaker 1>can I say, no, what are you gonna get? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just asking, I mean, what is there? Is there a

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<v Speaker 1>price in your mind you're willing to get first for him?

0:16:56.720 --> 0:16:58.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna exna have to give me a first round pick. Okay,

0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:01.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't want a first round pick super Bowl this year.

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<v Speaker 1>First round pick doesn't help me this year. No, that's true,

0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:05.840
<v Speaker 1>but does that but in you're in your in your

0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:09.600
<v Speaker 1>mind is now never never entered my mind, never never

0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:12.200
<v Speaker 1>felt like, you know, I want him two years left

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<v Speaker 1>on his deal. I want him to show up and

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<v Speaker 1>let's go on a super Bowl. I'm not thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>trading him, No, just brainstorming. I thought this morning, what

0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:22.959
<v Speaker 1>if they look to trading him and what would be

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<v Speaker 1>a match. And you know, people have talked about Duke

0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:30.320
<v Speaker 1>Johnson Cleveland because they've had so called abundance of running backs.

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<v Speaker 1>So Kareem Hunt is suspended, doesn't he unhappy with his exactly?

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<v Speaker 1>And so the point my point being, if you did

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<v Speaker 1>trade him, you have to have somebody who comes in

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<v Speaker 1>here and performs right now aside from absolutely pick whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>I would not propose that at all you know, unless

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<v Speaker 1>you think, but if somebody did offer you a one,

0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:53.800
<v Speaker 1>you would consider it. No, that's what I would have

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<v Speaker 1>to have. But I'm not sure I'm not trading him.

0:17:56.080 --> 0:18:00.480
<v Speaker 1>You would have to be a player too, because Cam

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<v Speaker 1>sit in the desert for six months before I trade him.

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<v Speaker 1>So let your season go. I don't care, all right,

0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:10.600
<v Speaker 1>because then who's the next guy that's gonna be in line?

0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:15.400
<v Speaker 1>Let's say next man a right, right, let's next man

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<v Speaker 1>into Jerry's office. Let's say it's nineteen ninety three all

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<v Speaker 1>over again, okay, and Himett Smith. He couldn't he couldn't

0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:26.359
<v Speaker 1>go anywhere he could. But that doesn't that's that's but

0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:29.000
<v Speaker 1>that's beside the point. Right now. Let's say Zeke goes

0:18:29.320 --> 0:18:32.000
<v Speaker 1>the first two games, all right, and he's not here.

0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:35.359
<v Speaker 1>The Cowboys lose to the Giants and the Redskins to

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<v Speaker 1>start the season. Okay, when does push come to shove

0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:43.879
<v Speaker 1>on this deal? When see, we don't know what they want.

0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:48.160
<v Speaker 1>We have an idea, do you We have an idea

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<v Speaker 1>that they would like money similar to what the contract

0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:53.960
<v Speaker 1>in Los Angeles. That's what That's what national reports are, Okay,

0:18:54.040 --> 0:18:57.040
<v Speaker 1>that's what national reports. Yeah, I believe that. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>if you told him, if if you, if I could say,

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<v Speaker 1>but you don't know that they might want more than that. Okay,

0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:06.359
<v Speaker 1>what if they want more? Okay, if that's the number,

0:19:06.400 --> 0:19:09.720
<v Speaker 1>if they want to reset the market, and Jerry's trying

0:19:09.720 --> 0:19:13.119
<v Speaker 1>to reset the market, right right, I mean, isn't that

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<v Speaker 1>what you took from his comment to you Sunday night.

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<v Speaker 1>I also took next man up and we'll be fine,

0:19:19.000 --> 0:19:25.080
<v Speaker 1>bit you know. Yeah, Okay, so he's injured for two games. Yeah,

0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:28.040
<v Speaker 1>well one game could decide that's this division. Well I

0:19:28.160 --> 0:19:31.680
<v Speaker 1>got to deal with it. Well, what are you gonna do.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna mess up your salary cap for the years

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<v Speaker 1>to come because somebody held out on you, because then

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<v Speaker 1>Amari Cooper's gonna hold out, and then Dak Prescott's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>hold out. I know, I sat here and said, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't set a precedent here and just give him whatever

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<v Speaker 1>he wants so he gets in camp. Well that's why

0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:50.200
<v Speaker 1>you can't trade him, because then he gets what he wants.

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry on Sunday Night said he had a plan in

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<v Speaker 1>feed me? There we go? Oh there they all right,

0:23:02.480 --> 0:23:05.679
<v Speaker 1>we're a week. We are on periscope as usual, and

0:23:05.880 --> 0:23:09.440
<v Speaker 1>Brian is monitoring things over there. Yeah, I do appreciate it. Thanks, Bill,

0:23:09.480 --> 0:23:11.560
<v Speaker 1>and I appreciate everybody out there across the world that's

0:23:11.640 --> 0:23:14.240
<v Speaker 1>listening to us right now. We've kind of decided we'd

0:23:14.280 --> 0:23:16.639
<v Speaker 1>like to get you guys more involved, and so I

0:23:16.760 --> 0:23:19.159
<v Speaker 1>kind of put a little message out there. We'd love

0:23:19.200 --> 0:23:22.000
<v Speaker 1>to take your questions, you know, about the team, things

0:23:22.000 --> 0:23:24.240
<v Speaker 1>that we might see, things in camp. So if you

0:23:24.280 --> 0:23:26.720
<v Speaker 1>would fire him in and then I'll scroll through them

0:23:26.840 --> 0:23:28.600
<v Speaker 1>and keep them short if you could. Just got to

0:23:28.600 --> 0:23:30.639
<v Speaker 1>read little bits, so if you keep them short, that

0:23:30.640 --> 0:23:32.440
<v Speaker 1>will help me a lot, and then at some point

0:23:32.440 --> 0:23:34.399
<v Speaker 1>in time Bill will call for him and we'll go

0:23:34.480 --> 0:23:38.320
<v Speaker 1>that direction. Okay, you can also send me a tweet

0:23:38.359 --> 0:23:40.560
<v Speaker 1>if you have a question or whatever at CBS eleven,

0:23:40.600 --> 0:23:43.600
<v Speaker 1>Bill Jones, I'm on Twitter now. Dan Rodgers in fact

0:23:43.680 --> 0:23:47.160
<v Speaker 1>says he reminds us that the Saints also have Latavious Murray.

0:23:47.200 --> 0:23:49.840
<v Speaker 1>They do. Absolutely, Yeah, that's true. And one of the

0:23:49.880 --> 0:23:52.600
<v Speaker 1>things though, on the flip side of it, the Redskins

0:23:52.720 --> 0:23:55.840
<v Speaker 1>just added or will add Donald Penn at tackle because

0:23:55.880 --> 0:23:58.560
<v Speaker 1>of a Trent Williams situation where he's not reporting. Now

0:23:58.640 --> 0:24:00.960
<v Speaker 1>that sounds like a situation where he may not be

0:24:01.119 --> 0:24:04.080
<v Speaker 1>long for that city. You know, they may move on

0:24:04.200 --> 0:24:07.040
<v Speaker 1>from him, but they're doing the same thing. Essentially, It's like, Okay,

0:24:07.040 --> 0:24:09.120
<v Speaker 1>he may be gone a while, it's bringing somebody else

0:24:09.160 --> 0:24:11.560
<v Speaker 1>for now. Yeah, so we'll see. But that that is

0:24:11.560 --> 0:24:17.600
<v Speaker 1>a bad situations again, yeah, because of his um things

0:24:17.600 --> 0:24:20.439
<v Speaker 1>with his health and so forth. All Right, the right

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<v Speaker 1>before the break, we talked about what Jerry said on

0:24:24.080 --> 0:24:26.320
<v Speaker 1>Sunday night. He said he had a plan in place.

0:24:26.440 --> 0:24:29.080
<v Speaker 1>He alluded to the fact that he had a plan

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<v Speaker 1>in place in case this thing lingers. What could that

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<v Speaker 1>plan possibly be signing Alfred Morris. No, he's not wrong,

0:24:37.840 --> 0:24:40.639
<v Speaker 1>he's not wrong. I was told this about I was

0:24:40.680 --> 0:24:43.960
<v Speaker 1>told this that when this before the season started, when

0:24:43.960 --> 0:24:46.640
<v Speaker 1>the way back into the draft, going all the way

0:24:46.640 --> 0:24:50.080
<v Speaker 1>back into the draft, that if they did not get

0:24:50.119 --> 0:24:52.720
<v Speaker 1>a running back, that Jerry said, we'll just go get

0:24:52.760 --> 0:24:56.200
<v Speaker 1>Alfred Morris. That that that that that Mickey's right. I mean,

0:24:56.359 --> 0:24:58.159
<v Speaker 1>I know you said it with tongue in cheek, I know,

0:24:58.320 --> 0:25:01.119
<v Speaker 1>but Mickey is actually very he's right that that was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be the plan if if if they did

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<v Speaker 1>not if they could not add a running back in

0:25:05.720 --> 0:25:09.360
<v Speaker 1>the draft, but they added too, then that was going

0:25:09.440 --> 0:25:11.400
<v Speaker 1>to be the plan, was that they could go sign

0:25:11.400 --> 0:25:13.040
<v Speaker 1>Alfred More and the other thing is too. Once you

0:25:13.080 --> 0:25:14.840
<v Speaker 1>get towards the end of preseason, if this thing is

0:25:14.840 --> 0:25:18.639
<v Speaker 1>still protracted, hold out. I mean, you can see what

0:25:18.640 --> 0:25:20.800
<v Speaker 1>happens in final cuts. There might still be an opportunity

0:25:20.840 --> 0:25:23.399
<v Speaker 1>to add another guy if you need to. But scared,

0:25:23.400 --> 0:25:27.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, Road And what you gotta remember, Jerry has

0:25:27.119 --> 0:25:29.960
<v Speaker 1>a hard time keeping secrets, sure does. He has a

0:25:30.000 --> 0:25:33.600
<v Speaker 1>hard time. He wanted to tell you, but he just

0:25:34.200 --> 0:25:38.000
<v Speaker 1>vailuely told you because it was already top of mind

0:25:38.080 --> 0:25:40.240
<v Speaker 1>because he was already out there. But didn't we talk

0:25:40.280 --> 0:25:43.960
<v Speaker 1>about it one day or somebody we had the discussion about, well,

0:25:43.960 --> 0:25:48.199
<v Speaker 1>Alfred Morris is out there. Yeah, So I just I

0:25:48.240 --> 0:25:52.479
<v Speaker 1>could say, I just to me, I'm count me as

0:25:52.480 --> 0:25:54.959
<v Speaker 1>well as guys. It's worried just because I think Zeke's

0:25:55.040 --> 0:25:58.440
<v Speaker 1>crazy enough to do this. I think I think, yeah,

0:25:58.520 --> 0:26:00.320
<v Speaker 1>or crazy. I think he's I think he's one of

0:26:00.359 --> 0:26:03.199
<v Speaker 1>those guys that could be very stubborn. And you know,

0:26:03.320 --> 0:26:06.960
<v Speaker 1>and I I just don't. I don't. I don't feel

0:26:06.960 --> 0:26:08.679
<v Speaker 1>like I'm dealing This is gonna sound terrible the way

0:26:08.720 --> 0:26:10.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. I don't think you're dealing with a normal

0:26:10.280 --> 0:26:13.480
<v Speaker 1>football player here. And normal when I think of conventional

0:26:13.520 --> 0:26:16.320
<v Speaker 1>thinking that now maybe the fact could be in a

0:26:16.400 --> 0:26:19.560
<v Speaker 1>very positive way. Yeah exactly. But I'm not calling Zeke

0:26:19.640 --> 0:26:22.280
<v Speaker 1>dumb or anything like that. I'm just saying, though, somebody

0:26:22.280 --> 0:26:25.000
<v Speaker 1>that's very headstrong, somebody it's very much you know, on

0:26:25.040 --> 0:26:28.000
<v Speaker 1>the field, he is, he's got this mentality, and then

0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:30.360
<v Speaker 1>off the field, you're kind of like thinking, Okay, he's

0:26:30.359 --> 0:26:32.920
<v Speaker 1>got a little crazy side to him. Anybody's he's holding

0:26:32.960 --> 0:26:35.199
<v Speaker 1>out two years in advance. I mean all this stuff

0:26:35.200 --> 0:26:38.000
<v Speaker 1>like that, And is it calculated what? I don't know,

0:26:38.240 --> 0:26:42.919
<v Speaker 1>but I worry if your hope has to be that

0:26:42.920 --> 0:26:46.040
<v Speaker 1>that maybe that Zeke does not want to miss game checks.

0:26:46.280 --> 0:26:48.679
<v Speaker 1>That's got to be your hope right there, because he

0:26:48.760 --> 0:26:51.560
<v Speaker 1>might be crazy enough to hold out the whole year.

0:26:51.880 --> 0:26:56.359
<v Speaker 1>He might. Yeah, we've seen it in the league before.

0:26:56.880 --> 0:26:59.560
<v Speaker 1>But we had this similar conversation with de Marcus Lawrence.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying like you said, Brian, they're not the

0:27:01.240 --> 0:27:04.199
<v Speaker 1>same guy, but we've had the same fear. Well, if

0:27:04.200 --> 0:27:06.480
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't get his surgery by this date. And I

0:27:06.520 --> 0:27:08.960
<v Speaker 1>think finally DeMarcus decided he got on the phone with

0:27:08.960 --> 0:27:10.840
<v Speaker 1>Steven himself and said, you know, let's figure this out.

0:27:10.880 --> 0:27:12.359
<v Speaker 1>I want to get the surgery and be ready for

0:27:12.359 --> 0:27:14.040
<v Speaker 1>the start of the season. Let's go try to win

0:27:14.040 --> 0:27:16.879
<v Speaker 1>a championship. You think Zeke would really I'm not in

0:27:16.920 --> 0:27:19.800
<v Speaker 1>his head, but would he really consider his best friend

0:27:19.800 --> 0:27:23.439
<v Speaker 1>as the quarterback sitting out this season or many games

0:27:23.480 --> 0:27:25.280
<v Speaker 1>to miss out an opportunity to go win a title.

0:27:25.320 --> 0:27:28.720
<v Speaker 1>I just wonder, beyond the financial component, would he really

0:27:28.760 --> 0:27:32.399
<v Speaker 1>be willing to do that. You're minimizing the influence of

0:27:32.440 --> 0:27:35.320
<v Speaker 1>the agent. You're a blame it at all on Zeke.

0:27:35.359 --> 0:27:38.159
<v Speaker 1>The agent works for you. Yeah, but the agent. A

0:27:38.160 --> 0:27:40.679
<v Speaker 1>lot of these guys listening to their agent until they

0:27:40.720 --> 0:27:43.280
<v Speaker 1>get to the point where now I'm losing money. The

0:27:43.320 --> 0:27:47.280
<v Speaker 1>agent's not losing money, right, He made his money on

0:27:47.440 --> 0:27:51.560
<v Speaker 1>Zeke's first deal, and so yeah, he's gonna make money

0:27:51.600 --> 0:27:54.159
<v Speaker 1>if they get signed. But a lot of times the

0:27:54.240 --> 0:27:57.520
<v Speaker 1>agent's got the agent in mind because if he gets

0:27:57.520 --> 0:28:00.680
<v Speaker 1>a big deal, then I get a big deal. Right.

0:28:01.160 --> 0:28:05.960
<v Speaker 1>And look, he didn't figure this out himself. He was

0:28:06.080 --> 0:28:10.400
<v Speaker 1>told what to do. You know, let's let's realize that

0:28:11.160 --> 0:28:13.720
<v Speaker 1>just turned twenty four years old. He didn't figure out

0:28:13.760 --> 0:28:17.399
<v Speaker 1>the economics of a of a salary, of a salary Cap.

0:28:17.480 --> 0:28:20.040
<v Speaker 1>Do you think he saw the agent and he heard

0:28:20.080 --> 0:28:23.720
<v Speaker 1>what Melvin Gordon did in San Diego and he goes, oh, yeah,

0:28:23.760 --> 0:28:25.800
<v Speaker 1>that's a good idea, I'd do that. Do you think

0:28:25.840 --> 0:28:28.399
<v Speaker 1>he sees the direction though this team is going with

0:28:28.480 --> 0:28:31.639
<v Speaker 1>his career? Do you think he sees that? What do

0:28:31.680 --> 0:28:34.119
<v Speaker 1>you what do you mean running him into the ground

0:28:34.520 --> 0:28:37.440
<v Speaker 1>Marco Murray? Yeah, just giving him five, you know, four

0:28:37.520 --> 0:28:40.280
<v Speaker 1>hundred touches a year. Do you think I think he

0:28:40.360 --> 0:28:45.360
<v Speaker 1>understoodands that he wants to be fall but he also

0:28:45.440 --> 0:28:48.600
<v Speaker 1>wants his money to run the ball right and and

0:28:48.600 --> 0:28:52.640
<v Speaker 1>and he understands that I gotta get it now because

0:28:52.640 --> 0:28:56.000
<v Speaker 1>who knows? And that's why you know, Yeah, Todd Gurley

0:28:56.040 --> 0:28:58.400
<v Speaker 1>had got his deal for one year, and now is

0:28:58.400 --> 0:29:00.560
<v Speaker 1>he gonna be the same back because of that knee issue?

0:29:00.680 --> 0:29:02.680
<v Speaker 1>So maybe maybe they were trying to give him a

0:29:02.720 --> 0:29:05.120
<v Speaker 1>shorter deal, you know, we don't know. Maybe they said

0:29:05.160 --> 0:29:07.720
<v Speaker 1>three years not five, you know, and then you get

0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:10.600
<v Speaker 1>a chance to get another contract. That's finding good if

0:29:10.640 --> 0:29:13.440
<v Speaker 1>you're healthy and you're not running the ground after three

0:29:13.480 --> 0:29:16.360
<v Speaker 1>more years. But you know, they've got his rights for

0:29:16.600 --> 0:29:19.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, two more years. So okay. The other thing

0:29:19.160 --> 0:29:21.600
<v Speaker 1>that Jerry I said. We talked about a little bit yesterday,

0:29:21.720 --> 0:29:25.080
<v Speaker 1>but it's now getting run around the nation ESPN, NFL

0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Network and so forth. The quote from Jerry that you

0:29:28.120 --> 0:29:31.080
<v Speaker 1>don't have to have a rushing champion to win the

0:29:31.120 --> 0:29:34.640
<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl. I think you should. You have to play.

0:29:34.680 --> 0:29:38.280
<v Speaker 1>I think his whole right, just not that set exactly

0:29:38.360 --> 0:29:43.160
<v Speaker 1>the whole thing the contract And to me, now I

0:29:43.160 --> 0:29:46.280
<v Speaker 1>should listen to you guys before I say. But to me,

0:29:46.600 --> 0:29:50.720
<v Speaker 1>what he was saying was not that, oh, I can

0:29:50.800 --> 0:29:53.480
<v Speaker 1>get any Tom Dick and Harry to be my running

0:29:53.480 --> 0:29:55.840
<v Speaker 1>back and we can win a Super Bowl. Because until

0:29:55.880 --> 0:30:00.400
<v Speaker 1>Emmett Smith won the rushing title, no rushing guy that

0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:04.080
<v Speaker 1>won a rushing title won a Super Bowl. Four four

0:30:04.160 --> 0:30:07.680
<v Speaker 1>and three of them are Emmett, one other guy, Terrell David,

0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:11.000
<v Speaker 1>one other guy, one other guy. Yeah, So I don't

0:30:11.040 --> 0:30:13.400
<v Speaker 1>think what that's what he was saying. I think what

0:30:13.440 --> 0:30:18.520
<v Speaker 1>he was saying, in a roundabout way is I don't

0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:23.320
<v Speaker 1>have to pay top dollar for a rushing champ. I'm

0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:26.920
<v Speaker 1>trying to reset the market. He's saying, I don't have

0:30:26.960 --> 0:30:30.480
<v Speaker 1>to pay him Todd Gurley money because I've got these

0:30:30.480 --> 0:30:32.840
<v Speaker 1>other things that take care of And I think that's

0:30:33.080 --> 0:30:36.280
<v Speaker 1>was his point on that not that nah, Like he said,

0:30:36.400 --> 0:30:39.440
<v Speaker 1>any one of five coaches could I think I think

0:30:39.480 --> 0:30:42.680
<v Speaker 1>maybe that was it was a message to the to

0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:46.520
<v Speaker 1>Zeke that Okay, what's more important to you a rushing

0:30:46.600 --> 0:30:51.200
<v Speaker 1>championship or a super Bowl? And what he is saying is, Okay,

0:30:51.240 --> 0:30:53.880
<v Speaker 1>in order to win a super Bowl, we have to

0:30:53.960 --> 0:30:58.280
<v Speaker 1>have enough funds left over to field an entire team, right,

0:30:58.560 --> 0:31:02.320
<v Speaker 1>not pay just one player because you want to rush

0:31:02.520 --> 0:31:05.600
<v Speaker 1>to reset the running back market or and that goes back,

0:31:05.760 --> 0:31:07.720
<v Speaker 1>but it goes back to what Tank said to Steven

0:31:07.760 --> 0:31:10.440
<v Speaker 1>on the phone. It's not my problem, my problem. And

0:31:10.520 --> 0:31:12.600
<v Speaker 1>we got a mail back question that somebody said, why

0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:14.680
<v Speaker 1>don't they just get all these guys that are up

0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:17.160
<v Speaker 1>for a deal potentially in a room and just explain

0:31:17.200 --> 0:31:18.960
<v Speaker 1>to him what we gotta do here, that we got

0:31:18.960 --> 0:31:20.840
<v Speaker 1>to give a little bit if you guys want to

0:31:20.840 --> 0:31:22.480
<v Speaker 1>go win a super Bowl. That's where you talk about

0:31:22.480 --> 0:31:25.240
<v Speaker 1>agents being involved too. Yeah, they don't play a card game.

0:31:25.280 --> 0:31:28.600
<v Speaker 1>Everybody draw and then that gets the most money, the

0:31:28.680 --> 0:31:30.960
<v Speaker 1>next guy gets the next most. On my Twitter at

0:31:31.000 --> 0:31:34.160
<v Speaker 1>CBS eleven Bill Jones, Stephen Nclario says, if you don't

0:31:34.200 --> 0:31:36.400
<v Speaker 1>need a rushing champ to win a Super Bowl? Why

0:31:36.440 --> 0:31:38.760
<v Speaker 1>did you draft him fourth overall and build a team

0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:41.040
<v Speaker 1>around him? Believe Bryan asked that yesterday. You don't know

0:31:41.080 --> 0:31:43.320
<v Speaker 1>he was going to win a rushing champion chip, but

0:31:43.480 --> 0:31:46.800
<v Speaker 1>you expect if you're if you're drafting four overall, he's

0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:51.240
<v Speaker 1>got that ability. Drafted talent is what it is. There's

0:31:51.280 --> 0:31:55.920
<v Speaker 1>other running backs that are talent. Walder Peyton was pretty talented, right, Absolutely,

0:31:55.960 --> 0:31:58.440
<v Speaker 1>he was all right so and I don't know if

0:31:58.440 --> 0:32:01.160
<v Speaker 1>he wanted rushing. He didn't win a championship when the

0:32:01.160 --> 0:32:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Bears won a Super Bowl. Bears didn't win many games

0:32:04.000 --> 0:32:06.280
<v Speaker 1>with him, which was was shame him and Barry Sanders

0:32:06.280 --> 0:32:08.880
<v Speaker 1>had a very similar career that Barry Sanders. You know,

0:32:09.280 --> 0:32:12.600
<v Speaker 1>he won one and been dedroit, didn't win anything. This

0:32:12.680 --> 0:32:14.840
<v Speaker 1>team was very different too. When they did draft him.

0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:16.920
<v Speaker 1>You had a quarterback coming off of injury who was

0:32:16.920 --> 0:32:19.600
<v Speaker 1>in his late getting to be late thirties. You had

0:32:19.600 --> 0:32:23.480
<v Speaker 1>a defense that was not very good overall, and he

0:32:23.560 --> 0:32:26.240
<v Speaker 1>was gonna be kind of the deodorant for everything. And

0:32:26.320 --> 0:32:28.280
<v Speaker 1>he was and he's still you know, he was still

0:32:28.280 --> 0:32:31.120
<v Speaker 1>the focus. He was the reason that they needed ball

0:32:31.160 --> 0:32:34.480
<v Speaker 1>control to save the defense. And that's what his job was,

0:32:34.600 --> 0:32:36.760
<v Speaker 1>and that's why I believe that to help Romo, but

0:32:36.840 --> 0:32:39.960
<v Speaker 1>to also make sure that that defense got protected, and

0:32:40.000 --> 0:32:43.840
<v Speaker 1>they've drafted better defensive players since you know. So, do

0:32:43.840 --> 0:32:46.960
<v Speaker 1>you feel like that you've changed your attitude about Zeke? Now?

0:32:47.080 --> 0:32:50.000
<v Speaker 1>What do you mean that he's holding out? Yeah? Well,

0:32:50.000 --> 0:32:52.959
<v Speaker 1>I mean in a way that do you feel like, Okay,

0:32:53.080 --> 0:32:55.959
<v Speaker 1>they could move on without him, whereas before when he

0:32:56.040 --> 0:32:58.840
<v Speaker 1>was here, that you couldn't play without him. I wouldn't

0:32:58.840 --> 0:33:01.320
<v Speaker 1>want to play without him, and I'm not sure they

0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:05.400
<v Speaker 1>would be as good with I haven't seen anybody out

0:33:05.440 --> 0:33:07.920
<v Speaker 1>there to tell me that I got a guy that

0:33:07.960 --> 0:33:10.239
<v Speaker 1>can rush for twelve hundred yards. You haven't been here

0:33:10.280 --> 0:33:13.640
<v Speaker 1>a week, That's what I'm saying. That's why I said that, Okay,

0:33:14.200 --> 0:33:16.920
<v Speaker 1>now they might be able to. Yeah, but that, like

0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:19.080
<v Speaker 1>you said, do you want to take that chance? You changed?

0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:22.120
<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like you've changed in regard to can

0:33:22.160 --> 0:33:24.320
<v Speaker 1>they win without it? Yeah? If if Zeke? If we

0:33:24.440 --> 0:33:27.200
<v Speaker 1>remember remember how we just when he was suspended, how

0:33:27.240 --> 0:33:29.520
<v Speaker 1>we sat here and fought you know, the league. They're

0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:32.200
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of sobs, you know, gosh, how can you

0:33:32.200 --> 0:33:34.760
<v Speaker 1>do this? Is Zec? Everything we've ever talked about has

0:33:34.760 --> 0:33:38.440
<v Speaker 1>been positivity about Zeke and how he's played. Yeah, and

0:33:38.480 --> 0:33:43.720
<v Speaker 1>now I feel like as a whole, everybody's like, ah,

0:33:43.720 --> 0:33:45.720
<v Speaker 1>you can, yeah, you'll be okay. You don't need a

0:33:46.080 --> 0:33:48.800
<v Speaker 1>you don't need this, you don't need that. Why why

0:33:48.840 --> 0:33:52.080
<v Speaker 1>have we changed okay? Why have we changed our attitude

0:33:52.400 --> 0:33:54.720
<v Speaker 1>because he's Is it because he's holding out? I honestly

0:33:54.800 --> 0:33:57.200
<v Speaker 1>haven't changed my attitude on it. I really haven't. And

0:33:57.240 --> 0:33:58.880
<v Speaker 1>this may sound like a cop out, but I don't.

0:33:58.960 --> 0:34:02.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't blame him wanting it's gonna be okay that

0:34:02.360 --> 0:34:04.520
<v Speaker 1>we played without ze I didn't say that. I didn't

0:34:04.520 --> 0:34:07.640
<v Speaker 1>say that. I didn't say that one bit. When he's

0:34:07.640 --> 0:34:09.720
<v Speaker 1>on the field, I feel like this team can score

0:34:09.880 --> 0:34:11.799
<v Speaker 1>at any time. You feel like they should pay him,

0:34:11.800 --> 0:34:15.160
<v Speaker 1>then I think they should pay him what they can

0:34:15.360 --> 0:34:20.800
<v Speaker 1>afford to pay him. Yes, okay should? I think the

0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:23.960
<v Speaker 1>case can certainly be made that he should be making

0:34:25.280 --> 0:34:30.480
<v Speaker 1>basically what Todd Gurley money. Yeah. I mean, in my opinion, well,

0:34:30.520 --> 0:34:33.200
<v Speaker 1>from an agent's point of view, it's like, well, yeah,

0:34:33.239 --> 0:34:36.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm the rushing champ. What's the highest salary right now? Okay,

0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:39.760
<v Speaker 1>let's go above that. I mean, that's just natural agent thinking.

0:34:39.840 --> 0:34:42.799
<v Speaker 1>That's what probably Zeke's thinking himself. And then why have

0:34:42.880 --> 0:34:47.520
<v Speaker 1>a contract. Oh no, I understand what you're saying. I mean,

0:34:47.560 --> 0:34:50.680
<v Speaker 1>he signed it, but a three year deal instead of

0:34:50.680 --> 0:34:53.800
<v Speaker 1>a five year deal. Contracts are broken every day. Well

0:34:53.840 --> 0:34:56.239
<v Speaker 1>that's fine, but I don't have to break it. You know,

0:34:56.320 --> 0:34:58.640
<v Speaker 1>it's well to play. Wait wait, wait, wait a second.

0:34:58.680 --> 0:35:01.239
<v Speaker 1>The rules in the NFL for a first round draft pick,

0:35:01.320 --> 0:35:06.080
<v Speaker 1>the club has your options dollars next year. Yeah, if

0:35:06.080 --> 0:35:07.759
<v Speaker 1>they want it. That's what I'm saying that if you

0:35:07.760 --> 0:35:10.040
<v Speaker 1>don't like it, you don't have to play. You can

0:35:10.040 --> 0:35:13.319
<v Speaker 1>go play in the what's the new league that's starting up,

0:35:13.360 --> 0:35:17.640
<v Speaker 1>to go to Canada. I just think the narrative about

0:35:17.760 --> 0:35:21.560
<v Speaker 1>Zeke has gone. A draft Dodger is gone from Man,

0:35:21.640 --> 0:35:24.120
<v Speaker 1>you gotta have him July everybody's head. You know, I

0:35:24.680 --> 0:35:26.640
<v Speaker 1>was listening to Brian. I'm sorry, I heard you what

0:35:26.719 --> 0:35:29.600
<v Speaker 1>you said. You know, I think the narrative about him

0:35:29.719 --> 0:35:33.360
<v Speaker 1>is gone from you know, people just saying, oh my gosh,

0:35:33.360 --> 0:35:36.480
<v Speaker 1>you can't play without him too. Oh it's okay. How

0:35:36.560 --> 0:35:39.200
<v Speaker 1>much is off the field stuff played into that with

0:35:39.280 --> 0:35:42.680
<v Speaker 1>some See, we don't know, we don't know. I think

0:35:42.719 --> 0:35:46.960
<v Speaker 1>fans are tired. Yeah, yeah, but Brian, the fans aren't

0:35:47.040 --> 0:35:50.240
<v Speaker 1>running the I know, I know, Mickey, are the people

0:35:50.320 --> 0:35:52.839
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about, Mickey? We don't know. Maybe the front

0:35:52.840 --> 0:35:55.600
<v Speaker 1>office is thinking the same thing. Maybe the front office

0:35:55.640 --> 0:35:58.040
<v Speaker 1>is saying, listen, we're tired of dealing with this. I'm

0:35:58.080 --> 0:36:01.160
<v Speaker 1>tired of helping you with legal fees or gett't you

0:36:01.200 --> 0:36:04.760
<v Speaker 1>know counseled. They understand how important he is to what's

0:36:04.800 --> 0:36:08.279
<v Speaker 1>going on on. Think so too. But there they can't

0:36:08.360 --> 0:36:12.239
<v Speaker 1>fool themselves. However, now, the only difference between now in

0:36:12.360 --> 0:36:17.640
<v Speaker 1>twenty seventeen basically is the defense is better. So that

0:36:17.760 --> 0:36:20.319
<v Speaker 1>gives you a chance. Right, he was drafted to make,

0:36:20.320 --> 0:36:23.320
<v Speaker 1>hopefully get the defense better. I think, well, the defense,

0:36:23.400 --> 0:36:26.160
<v Speaker 1>he can't get the defense off the field. Uh. And

0:36:26.200 --> 0:36:31.480
<v Speaker 1>then this offense is the receiving corps is deeper I

0:36:31.520 --> 0:36:33.879
<v Speaker 1>think than it ever has been. And your quarterback could

0:36:33.880 --> 0:36:37.439
<v Speaker 1>take a leap forward this year. And that's that's that's

0:36:37.520 --> 0:36:40.480
<v Speaker 1>the major key. When he wasn't here, if you were

0:36:40.480 --> 0:36:43.759
<v Speaker 1>a defensive coordinator, what are you doing? Dak and Dez

0:36:43.840 --> 0:36:45.600
<v Speaker 1>are not going to beat me. Now, find a way

0:36:45.600 --> 0:36:48.440
<v Speaker 1>to beat me. That They were going to make sure

0:36:48.600 --> 0:36:52.080
<v Speaker 1>that didn't happen, and they did. You ask me. I

0:36:52.120 --> 0:36:55.200
<v Speaker 1>feel like that Zeke is more important contractually than Dak

0:36:55.320 --> 0:36:58.080
<v Speaker 1>because I trust I trust what I see with Zeke

0:36:58.239 --> 0:37:00.719
<v Speaker 1>more than I trust I see with Dak. Does that

0:37:00.760 --> 0:37:02.480
<v Speaker 1>make sense, I'm just saying you. No. No, I'm just

0:37:02.520 --> 0:37:06.000
<v Speaker 1>saying me. I'm just saying me. Dak is not Tom Brady,

0:37:06.120 --> 0:37:11.000
<v Speaker 1>absolutely not. But somebody's gonna say a look at New England.

0:37:11.120 --> 0:37:13.120
<v Speaker 1>Look at New England. They win and they don't have

0:37:13.160 --> 0:37:15.399
<v Speaker 1>a running back. Every year they changed drafting the first

0:37:15.480 --> 0:37:17.759
<v Speaker 1>round and running back. But Sony Michelle is a first

0:37:17.840 --> 0:37:19.719
<v Speaker 1>round running back, but they didn't have him. Last year

0:37:19.840 --> 0:37:23.600
<v Speaker 1>they did Super Bowl, they won him Super goot back Michell. Well,

0:37:23.600 --> 0:37:25.960
<v Speaker 1>they still did it by committee. Get ready, it was committee,

0:37:25.960 --> 0:37:28.120
<v Speaker 1>but get ready, get ready, New England. When everybody else

0:37:28.200 --> 0:37:30.160
<v Speaker 1>is gonna play spread offense and throw the ball in

0:37:30.200 --> 0:37:31.759
<v Speaker 1>all that, New England is gonna go the other way.

0:37:31.800 --> 0:37:33.879
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna line us, swam the ball down your throat.

0:37:33.960 --> 0:37:36.640
<v Speaker 1>And they drafted to Gay from Alabama this year. Damien Harris,

0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:39.160
<v Speaker 1>who's he run the first rounder? But he was close

0:37:39.440 --> 0:37:42.400
<v Speaker 1>and um he might he might be better than the

0:37:42.400 --> 0:37:45.160
<v Speaker 1>first round That was from Alabama. Who's pound, Who's pound

0:37:45.239 --> 0:37:49.759
<v Speaker 1>for pound? The best player on this team pound for pound?

0:37:49.920 --> 0:37:51.920
<v Speaker 1>Just best player? So that make it a trick question

0:37:52.000 --> 0:37:54.719
<v Speaker 1>pound for pound, Yeah, it doesn't matter. Yeah, like the

0:37:54.719 --> 0:37:59.040
<v Speaker 1>heavy weights count. Sure, some will say Zach Martin. I'd

0:37:59.040 --> 0:38:02.200
<v Speaker 1>say Zach Martin, and I would put Zeke second below him.

0:38:02.920 --> 0:38:06.400
<v Speaker 1>So that's my answer, Like, he's still very important to

0:38:06.440 --> 0:38:10.200
<v Speaker 1>what this thing is. And and Kellen Moore has told us,

0:38:10.239 --> 0:38:12.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we're our foundation. Is still our foundation, right,

0:38:12.840 --> 0:38:14.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they're not going to just sling it sixty

0:38:14.520 --> 0:38:16.920
<v Speaker 1>times a game, even if Dak does take a step forward.

0:38:17.520 --> 0:38:21.200
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I mean they they need him. He knows that.

0:38:21.400 --> 0:38:24.799
<v Speaker 1>But Mickey's right too. I mean it's gotta work. It's

0:38:24.800 --> 0:38:27.000
<v Speaker 1>got to work under the cap because they've they've got

0:38:27.600 --> 0:38:29.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they've got other guys coming up down the

0:38:29.560 --> 0:38:31.480
<v Speaker 1>line too in a couple of years. Why would I

0:38:31.560 --> 0:38:33.680
<v Speaker 1>feel Why would I feel better paying Zeke than I

0:38:33.719 --> 0:38:36.839
<v Speaker 1>would Dak? Where are you gonna end up paying him both?

0:38:37.480 --> 0:38:40.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna pay one thirty over thirty million dollars though, well,

0:38:40.520 --> 0:38:42.520
<v Speaker 1>Zeke has been at the top of his position for

0:38:42.560 --> 0:38:45.920
<v Speaker 1>three years now. Absolutely, I mean he is, and that's

0:38:45.960 --> 0:38:48.960
<v Speaker 1>That's why they're in this situation right now. And I'll

0:38:49.000 --> 0:38:52.839
<v Speaker 1>say it till day I die. How many touchdowns did

0:38:53.560 --> 0:38:58.640
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<v Speaker 1>Update from periscope. Yeah. Question from periscope is I'll give

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<v Speaker 1>Could continue to fire in if you mind. Uh, they

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<v Speaker 1>want to know do you think Amor might sign first?

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<v Speaker 1>Be a smart move for him. He's in camp, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was talking to him already yesterday on the field.

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<v Speaker 1>Chance that he might sign, you said yesterday you thought

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0:43:39.400 --> 0:43:41.560
<v Speaker 1>Tyrone Crawford at the other end at the right end

0:43:41.680 --> 0:43:43.799
<v Speaker 1>or Robert Quinn. Well that I think that's the only

0:43:43.880 --> 0:43:46.200
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0:43:46.239 --> 0:43:51.839
<v Speaker 1>and Malik inside, yeah, and Tristan Hill behind Malik. I think,

0:43:52.160 --> 0:43:56.520
<v Speaker 1>uh this, uh Covington is going to be a player.

0:43:56.680 --> 0:43:58.799
<v Speaker 1>Just looking at him. Thanks mackea. I appreciate you didn't

0:43:58.800 --> 0:44:01.600
<v Speaker 1>see him in the one on ones. Yes, that held

0:44:01.640 --> 0:44:04.440
<v Speaker 1>him out, but he was in the team. So the team, Well,

0:44:04.440 --> 0:44:07.239
<v Speaker 1>he's coming back from the calf somebody. They're easing him in, Yeah,

0:44:07.680 --> 0:44:13.359
<v Speaker 1>and then you're gonna have Armstrong and Taco's gotta get going. Yeah.

0:44:13.440 --> 0:44:16.160
<v Speaker 1>But he's got a guaranteed contract, so he has a

0:44:16.280 --> 0:44:20.040
<v Speaker 1>little bit of a net his base salaries guaranteed this year. Yeah,

0:44:20.280 --> 0:44:22.640
<v Speaker 1>so I don't know if you want to, you know,

0:44:22.840 --> 0:44:25.480
<v Speaker 1>eat that and not have a player, you gotta keep

0:44:25.640 --> 0:44:27.960
<v Speaker 1>be careful on how much dead money you eat. And

0:44:28.080 --> 0:44:32.000
<v Speaker 1>then you know, Jalen Jelks, let's see it, Carrie Hyder

0:44:32.120 --> 0:44:34.279
<v Speaker 1>and Hyder I forgot. I knew I was forgetting something.

0:44:34.440 --> 0:44:38.200
<v Speaker 1>Joe Jackson had an interception yesterday. He did because Rico

0:44:39.320 --> 0:44:43.000
<v Speaker 1>drop the ball. Skillets some skillets there yesterday. One more question,

0:44:43.480 --> 0:44:45.839
<v Speaker 1>how many how many? How many interceptions do you think

0:44:45.960 --> 0:44:48.680
<v Speaker 1>Dak has from drop balls being picked off? That was

0:44:48.760 --> 0:44:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Mike White that that was not just saying he had

0:44:52.040 --> 0:44:53.759
<v Speaker 1>a few of the first half of the season last

0:44:53.800 --> 0:44:56.319
<v Speaker 1>ye Yeah, I sure did. Couple final question here if

0:44:56.320 --> 0:44:59.000
<v Speaker 1>I could, before we let Bill answer some questions as well.

0:44:59.080 --> 0:45:01.120
<v Speaker 1>Who needs to have a good camp to stay on

0:45:01.200 --> 0:45:05.040
<v Speaker 1>the roster on the defensive line or offensive line or

0:45:05.120 --> 0:45:07.120
<v Speaker 1>offensive line? Yeah, I think you kind of talked about

0:45:07.120 --> 0:45:10.279
<v Speaker 1>the defensive line. We can maybe talk about the offensive line.

0:45:10.560 --> 0:45:14.279
<v Speaker 1>I think Looney's spot is safe. Is he not as

0:45:14.320 --> 0:45:21.320
<v Speaker 1>a swing guy inside? Yeah? Uh? Adam Redman, Sue Philo

0:45:21.719 --> 0:45:27.319
<v Speaker 1>think see they worry about his weight, he gets too heavy,

0:45:27.400 --> 0:45:29.080
<v Speaker 1>gets to Hey, he looks like he gets too heavy

0:45:29.160 --> 0:45:31.640
<v Speaker 1>the way he moves. Sometimes he's moved around the league

0:45:31.640 --> 0:45:33.399
<v Speaker 1>a little bit. Okay, one more question, then more likely

0:45:33.440 --> 0:45:37.960
<v Speaker 1>to have a breakout Dorg's Armstrong or Xavier Woods? M h,

0:45:38.840 --> 0:45:41.760
<v Speaker 1>Well your words gave a little shot to Jason Witten yesterday.

0:45:42.960 --> 0:45:48.120
<v Speaker 1>Since since since Woods started sixteen games last year, Armstrong

0:45:48.280 --> 0:45:51.200
<v Speaker 1>barely played to break out, you got to come from nowhere.

0:45:51.520 --> 0:45:53.960
<v Speaker 1>So I think it would be Armstrong because I think, well,

0:45:54.000 --> 0:45:56.960
<v Speaker 1>if Woods Woods is breaking out, he's breaking out into

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<v Speaker 1>the Pro Bowl. Yeah, how's that? Okay? I like Rob

0:46:00.680 --> 0:46:04.279
<v Speaker 1>You thinking the same way Woods? Yeah, but I just

0:46:04.480 --> 0:46:07.399
<v Speaker 1>like watching Dorance rush the pastor man, I I he's

0:46:07.440 --> 0:46:10.759
<v Speaker 1>got He's an explosive pass rusher. Like I think you

0:46:10.840 --> 0:46:14.240
<v Speaker 1>give him more reps, you're gonna see him really rise. Okay,

0:46:14.440 --> 0:46:18.399
<v Speaker 1>what about Whitton? Can you have a breakout, break out,

0:46:18.640 --> 0:46:21.560
<v Speaker 1>break out from nowhere, comeback player of the year? Yeah? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, I'm still all right, Bill, I'm still kind

0:46:23.920 --> 0:46:26.960
<v Speaker 1>of going through keep going. Okay, how about one more

0:46:27.000 --> 0:46:29.600
<v Speaker 1>then I'll go one more with you. Dan, I'm sorry,

0:46:30.080 --> 0:46:33.520
<v Speaker 1>this is like technology kills me. Right Now, what player

0:46:33.600 --> 0:46:37.000
<v Speaker 1>would you like to have their first Pro Bowl? What

0:46:37.440 --> 0:46:40.640
<v Speaker 1>player would you like to see have their first opportunity

0:46:40.719 --> 0:46:47.319
<v Speaker 1>at the Pro Bowl? Mhmm. It was a good one

0:46:48.680 --> 0:46:50.600
<v Speaker 1>bow and I got one. Go for it. Make it

0:46:50.600 --> 0:46:52.040
<v Speaker 1>you just fired out if you want. That's that's a

0:46:52.080 --> 0:46:57.960
<v Speaker 1>great thing about radio. I like that which by the way, yes,

0:46:59.480 --> 0:47:01.920
<v Speaker 1>he used me the other day on the little run

0:47:01.960 --> 0:47:05.279
<v Speaker 1>around the goal post. Yeah, he goes leaping up into

0:47:05.320 --> 0:47:08.040
<v Speaker 1>the air and he hits his head on the crossbar

0:47:08.160 --> 0:47:10.160
<v Speaker 1>the goal post. Let me ask you this, Bill, Wait,

0:47:10.440 --> 0:47:12.880
<v Speaker 1>did he really? Bill, I'm new to the holding the

0:47:13.040 --> 0:47:17.480
<v Speaker 1>boom mic. Bill asked Jeff Heath about it. That's what

0:47:17.480 --> 0:47:20.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. Bill asked the one guy that would have

0:47:21.000 --> 0:47:26.360
<v Speaker 1>zero reaction. Bill goes, what do you think about? And

0:47:26.880 --> 0:47:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Jeff Heath looks him like he wasn't impressed. It's like

0:47:30.160 --> 0:47:34.879
<v Speaker 1>pretty athletic, and Bill's having to follow up like, oh, yeah,

0:47:35.120 --> 0:47:40.000
<v Speaker 1>he's kind of amazing, isn't it anything? Yeah, he did

0:47:40.120 --> 0:47:43.160
<v Speaker 1>say you to a lot of guys. Yeah, if you

0:47:43.239 --> 0:47:46.920
<v Speaker 1>ask the one guy that would have zero reaction, that

0:47:47.080 --> 0:47:49.799
<v Speaker 1>was the first DPE we talked to. Asked me, right,

0:47:50.120 --> 0:47:52.960
<v Speaker 1>are you kidding me? I've never seen that before. I

0:47:53.040 --> 0:47:55.600
<v Speaker 1>mean just think about that. I mean, you're you're basically

0:47:55.719 --> 0:47:58.239
<v Speaker 1>hitting your head at your six foot tall and you

0:47:58.360 --> 0:48:01.640
<v Speaker 1>hit your head on the rim him of the Well,

0:48:01.680 --> 0:48:05.120
<v Speaker 1>that's I mean the gold Cross. So it's a forty

0:48:05.160 --> 0:48:07.600
<v Speaker 1>eight inch vertical. Well, we see where the running starres

0:48:07.640 --> 0:48:10.839
<v Speaker 1>almost due. Yeah, but they're six nine Yeah. Well yeah,

0:48:11.480 --> 0:48:15.360
<v Speaker 1>what's his his? Well, that would be a forty eight vertical,

0:48:15.400 --> 0:48:18.560
<v Speaker 1>but it's where the running start, right, Okay, now his versical.

0:48:18.800 --> 0:48:22.319
<v Speaker 1>His vertical at the combine was thirty four. His broad

0:48:22.400 --> 0:48:24.880
<v Speaker 1>jump was eleven feet, so this is a combination of

0:48:24.960 --> 0:48:26.960
<v Speaker 1>a broad and a vertical. Yeah, he had a good

0:48:27.000 --> 0:48:30.320
<v Speaker 1>practice yesterday. By the way they threw. They threw on

0:48:30.440 --> 0:48:32.239
<v Speaker 1>him a couple of times, and he was right there

0:48:32.320 --> 0:48:34.160
<v Speaker 1>on its. Hey, let's get some picks and make the

0:48:34.239 --> 0:48:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Pro Bowl. This ye right, that would be good. That

0:48:36.000 --> 0:48:38.919
<v Speaker 1>would be the difference. They're asking the background noise once again,

0:48:39.000 --> 0:48:42.920
<v Speaker 1>it's the sander, Sander and blaster, the sander next door.

0:48:43.040 --> 0:48:45.799
<v Speaker 1>Sorry about that, Jerry says, it's a damn drill. It's out.

0:48:46.360 --> 0:48:50.160
<v Speaker 1>It's they're building Steff next door, So sorry about that.

0:48:50.200 --> 0:48:51.879
<v Speaker 1>If you want to pick for the first Pro Bowl

0:48:51.960 --> 0:48:53.920
<v Speaker 1>that I would like to see how about MALIEK. Collins.

0:48:54.160 --> 0:48:55.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't good one. He'd have to get

0:48:55.920 --> 0:48:59.520
<v Speaker 1>his sack totals up obviously, But when he's healthy, he's

0:48:59.520 --> 0:49:01.520
<v Speaker 1>been really good for them. I just I wish him

0:49:01.560 --> 0:49:04.160
<v Speaker 1>good health. I wish him a full healthy season and

0:49:04.200 --> 0:49:05.960
<v Speaker 1>see what he can do. Yeah, I'm with you on that.

0:49:06.000 --> 0:49:09.200
<v Speaker 1>How many touchdowns did Alfred Morris score in two thousand

0:49:09.239 --> 0:49:12.320
<v Speaker 1>and seventeen with the Cowboys? Mickey, that was your question

0:49:12.440 --> 0:49:16.000
<v Speaker 1>before we took a break. I believe in five starts

0:49:16.080 --> 0:49:19.160
<v Speaker 1>in fourteen games, he had one hundred and fifteen carries

0:49:19.200 --> 0:49:23.440
<v Speaker 1>for five forty seven and one touchdown. One touchdown. He

0:49:23.719 --> 0:49:28.960
<v Speaker 1>averaged four point eight yards a carry. Okay. But how

0:49:29.040 --> 0:49:32.760
<v Speaker 1>many yards to carry did Zeke average the last two years? Okay?

0:49:33.000 --> 0:49:37.399
<v Speaker 1>And how many touchdowns did he have? He had more? Yes? One,

0:49:38.719 --> 0:49:43.960
<v Speaker 1>Alfred had one? Yeah, yes, Zeke had six last year,

0:49:44.200 --> 0:49:47.240
<v Speaker 1>seven the year before and fifteen in two thou sixteen

0:49:47.960 --> 0:49:51.920
<v Speaker 1>had zone offense. Right, What did you argue in twenty

0:49:51.960 --> 0:49:56.200
<v Speaker 1>seventeen defenses played them differently with Alfred in the game. Yeah, absolutely,

0:49:56.719 --> 0:50:00.200
<v Speaker 1>because he couldn't beat them. Zeke can beat you. And

0:50:00.800 --> 0:50:03.759
<v Speaker 1>what was Kellen? And what was Kellen Moore's answer to

0:50:04.120 --> 0:50:05.879
<v Speaker 1>what do you have to do better in the red

0:50:06.000 --> 0:50:10.000
<v Speaker 1>zone to improve? He said, run the ball better. Yeah,

0:50:10.560 --> 0:50:13.080
<v Speaker 1>run the ball better. And if you run the ball

0:50:13.160 --> 0:50:15.760
<v Speaker 1>better inside the twenty, then that means maybe you're running

0:50:15.800 --> 0:50:18.200
<v Speaker 1>the ball better inside the ten because you got to

0:50:18.239 --> 0:50:21.560
<v Speaker 1>knock somebody off the ball off the line of scrimmage,

0:50:21.880 --> 0:50:23.719
<v Speaker 1>and they didn't do a very good job of that

0:50:23.880 --> 0:50:26.200
<v Speaker 1>last year. So the point is this is not going

0:50:26.280 --> 0:50:30.040
<v Speaker 1>to be a sky Wars offense. That's right, Kellen Moore

0:50:30.160 --> 0:50:32.400
<v Speaker 1>call of the play. I like that Skywars. You know,

0:50:32.520 --> 0:50:35.640
<v Speaker 1>it's not like this. That's something new. That movie came

0:50:35.640 --> 0:50:39.960
<v Speaker 1>out in seventy seven. So I misspoke. I don't think

0:50:40.000 --> 0:50:43.360
<v Speaker 1>you knew. I didn't know what's Star Wars. I'm worried

0:50:43.360 --> 0:50:47.080
<v Speaker 1>about you. Yes, I mean I invented my own turn Okay,

0:50:47.120 --> 0:50:51.560
<v Speaker 1>sky Wars, right, Luke Starwalker. By the way, I think

0:50:51.600 --> 0:50:54.719
<v Speaker 1>Blake Jarwin is going to be a breakout guy talking

0:50:54.719 --> 0:50:57.480
<v Speaker 1>about I didn't think the guys might be right. Yeah,

0:50:57.560 --> 0:50:59.719
<v Speaker 1>good for them, and he just needs the opportunity guy

0:50:59.760 --> 0:51:02.319
<v Speaker 1>thinkson Garrett kind of sounds like he absolutely thinks they

0:51:02.400 --> 0:51:04.440
<v Speaker 1>might be right. I'm telling you this two tight end

0:51:04.520 --> 0:51:07.239
<v Speaker 1>offense is going to be back to where it used

0:51:07.239 --> 0:51:10.560
<v Speaker 1>to be with those two guys on the field, back

0:51:10.680 --> 0:51:15.680
<v Speaker 1>when Martellis and Jason. Yeah, Martellis and yeah, all right

0:51:15.719 --> 0:51:19.399
<v Speaker 1>we got we have two minute warning yet three minute,

0:51:19.440 --> 0:51:21.239
<v Speaker 1>three minute warning? All right? What do we expect on

0:51:21.320 --> 0:51:23.399
<v Speaker 1>the practice field today? It's gonna be great seeing Travis

0:51:23.440 --> 0:51:28.080
<v Speaker 1>Frederick drill. Yeah, Travis Frederick, Yes, yes, I want to

0:51:28.120 --> 0:51:30.320
<v Speaker 1>see that. I want to see if. I don't know

0:51:30.400 --> 0:51:32.120
<v Speaker 1>if they're gonna put him in the one on one

0:51:32.280 --> 0:51:34.960
<v Speaker 1>pass rush drill, but I think he's gonna get in team.

0:51:35.400 --> 0:51:37.920
<v Speaker 1>They might give him one or two reps in it,

0:51:38.600 --> 0:51:40.440
<v Speaker 1>but I just want to see him stand up and

0:51:40.520 --> 0:51:44.240
<v Speaker 1>hold somebody off. Yeah, that's coming full speed. In Training

0:51:44.280 --> 0:51:47.000
<v Speaker 1>Camp Live today, we're gonna focus on the team period,

0:51:47.280 --> 0:51:50.160
<v Speaker 1>so we'll focus in on Travis Frederick. Have some video

0:51:50.280 --> 0:51:51.879
<v Speaker 1>up for you guys to see him and how he's

0:51:51.880 --> 0:51:55.320
<v Speaker 1>battling inside. Those inside guys did a nice job yesterday

0:51:55.440 --> 0:51:58.120
<v Speaker 1>the human log and then also Collins there was some

0:51:58.239 --> 0:52:01.040
<v Speaker 1>battling going on in with us. Williams snow size, I

0:52:01.080 --> 0:52:03.120
<v Speaker 1>mean Connor Williams. I'll tell you what. Connor Williams on

0:52:03.160 --> 0:52:04.839
<v Speaker 1>a pad. You see the past that kind of tried.

0:52:04.840 --> 0:52:06.879
<v Speaker 1>He tried to jump. I think he was trying to jump.

0:52:07.800 --> 0:52:10.120
<v Speaker 1>He was trying to jump a rookie. He was trying

0:52:10.120 --> 0:52:12.440
<v Speaker 1>to jump hill and he'll kind of swum around him

0:52:12.440 --> 0:52:13.880
<v Speaker 1>a little bit. He was trying to short set him.

0:52:14.000 --> 0:52:15.799
<v Speaker 1>It's what he was trying to do. So next time,

0:52:15.880 --> 0:52:17.799
<v Speaker 1>Connor said, Okay, I'm not gonna short set. I'm gonna

0:52:17.840 --> 0:52:19.440
<v Speaker 1>sit back and do what I'm supposed to do. And

0:52:19.480 --> 0:52:21.359
<v Speaker 1>I want to see. I want to see if if

0:52:21.520 --> 0:52:24.680
<v Speaker 1>Reggie Davis is a one hit wonder. Yeah, can he

0:52:24.880 --> 0:52:27.279
<v Speaker 1>be consistent? And you know the other thing is he's

0:52:27.360 --> 0:52:30.120
<v Speaker 1>gotten some punt return reps back there, trying to give

0:52:30.200 --> 0:52:32.839
<v Speaker 1>him some more to do. You know, if the more

0:52:32.880 --> 0:52:34.520
<v Speaker 1>he can do, maybe try to earn that roster spot.

0:52:34.960 --> 0:52:37.200
<v Speaker 1>All I know is he can fly. Well, we saw it.

0:52:37.520 --> 0:52:39.359
<v Speaker 1>I think he had like three touchdown catches in one

0:52:39.360 --> 0:52:41.359
<v Speaker 1>of those OTAs. Yes, you know he can move. That's

0:52:41.400 --> 0:52:43.960
<v Speaker 1>when we figured we finally realized he was there. He

0:52:44.040 --> 0:52:45.640
<v Speaker 1>had been there all last year and I don't think

0:52:45.680 --> 0:52:48.319
<v Speaker 1>anybody knew who he looked like. Can't Cooper Rush also

0:52:48.680 --> 0:52:51.560
<v Speaker 1>build on that good day? Yes, got to be consistent,

0:52:51.719 --> 0:52:53.640
<v Speaker 1>that's the deal. In training camp. By the way, we

0:52:53.719 --> 0:52:57.000
<v Speaker 1>will have the Cowboys Blue White Scrimmage on. Yeah. I

0:52:57.320 --> 0:53:00.120
<v Speaker 1>got that rundown this morning. Yeah, part of that, so

0:53:00.239 --> 0:53:02.759
<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about that as the week goes on. That's

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<v Speaker 1>it for talking Cowboys for today. Reminder Jason Garrett is

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