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Speaker 1: This he's Talking Cowboys training live from Dallas Cowboys Training

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Speaker 1: Camp in Hawksnard, California. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Bromis,

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones. And it is day six

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Speaker 1: of Zeke watch here at Cowboys training camp in Oxnard, California,

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Speaker 1: Day number five of the Cowboys being in Oxnard, Californifornia

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Speaker 1: for a full day, Day number four of practice, day

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Speaker 1: number two in pads, and day number one of Travis

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Speaker 1: Frederick in pads and day number one of these second

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Speaker 1: Alfred Morris era of Dallas Cowboys Football. Welcome to Talking Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: That's quite an opening that covered a few things anyway,

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Speaker 1: a lot of math. Yeah, I knew there was a

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Speaker 1: reason I brought this. Get your popcorn ready for this show.

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Speaker 1: We brought props to the set today. I'm ready popcorn, popcorn.

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Speaker 1: I like it. Appreciate that you, Terrell. They just pop

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Speaker 1: popcorn over here. They did one of the tents, and

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Speaker 1: the fellow who popped the popcorn asked if I wanted

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Speaker 1: any popcorn, and I said, no, it's too early. I

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Speaker 1: brought yourself. There you go. Actually this is from last night.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, all right. Actually copcorn's better after it sits

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Speaker 1: a while. Okay. It's also day number one of a

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Speaker 1: morning practice. Yeah, yes, okay, the first morning practice of

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Speaker 1: this two thy nineteen Cowboys training camp. So we it's

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Speaker 1: sort of like a pregame show here as the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: will be on the practice field. It's technically as scheduled

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Speaker 1: to start at ten forty five Pacific time. Jason Garrett

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Speaker 1: will be a little later today three o'clock Central time,

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Speaker 1: one o'clock Pacific time, but a lot of Cowboys making

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Speaker 1: the news right now. Yeah, it is kind of a

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Speaker 1: one of those days where a nice added practice. Yesterday

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Speaker 1: we got to see some guys. I thought there was

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Speaker 1: some really good efforts buy some young players. I thought

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Speaker 1: I saw a backup quarterback throw the ball a little

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Speaker 1: bit better. Yesterday. Some guys who were talking about maybe

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Speaker 1: need to elevate their game kind of didn't elevate their

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Speaker 1: game right out of the gates. So yeah, it's there's

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Speaker 1: a lot to get to, a lot of different storylines.

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Speaker 1: And that's the great thing about training camp practice, though,

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Speaker 1: is that you can go from station to station and

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Speaker 1: yesterday I was talking about oh, I was anxious to

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Speaker 1: see Travis Frederick. And then we get to the press

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Speaker 1: conference and then Travis Frederick not practicing, but him going

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Speaker 1: to day. But I was really really excited though about

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Speaker 1: just overall those guys being on the field. You saw

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Speaker 1: some good competition. We saw some one on one with

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Speaker 1: the offense and defensive line. We saw some seven on seven.

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Speaker 1: We saw some receivers run some nice routes, make some

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Speaker 1: plays down the field. Quarterbacks get him the ball, good

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Speaker 1: block good, you know, good blitzing. So good, A good

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Speaker 1: overall day to get started in camp. We should petition

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Speaker 1: for them to have this practice in the morning instead

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Speaker 1: of the afternoon, because then the rest of the day

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Speaker 1: we have something tangible to talk about to write about,

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Speaker 1: instead of having to wait till five to thirty or

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Speaker 1: six o'clock, which is eight o'clock back home. The morning practice,

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Speaker 1: I think is good. I'm anxious to see Travis Frederick.

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Speaker 1: We were yesterday until we found out that they were

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Speaker 1: going to give him a veteran day off. And the

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Speaker 1: reason they did it that way is because they didn't

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Speaker 1: want him practicing two days in a row in pads

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Speaker 1: the first time in a year, So they just said,

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Speaker 1: let's give him the veteran day off on Monday practice

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Speaker 1: of them on Tuesday, it's a natural team day off

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Speaker 1: was some there was some common sense to their decision

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Speaker 1: to keep him out yesterday totally made sense. Yeah, Joe

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Speaker 1: I think you saw. I think the one on ones right,

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Speaker 1: Rod Marinelli said a couple of days ago, I want

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Speaker 1: to see Tyrn Smith put on the pads against Robert Quinn.

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Speaker 1: And when there was one on ones, it was seventy

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Speaker 1: second year guy. Absolutely, But keep an eye on Jalen

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Speaker 1: they have some production. Then all of a sudden you

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Speaker 1: we got some. We saw it last year with Antoine Woods,

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Speaker 1: he deserves an operation. Mickey Mickey saw this a long time.

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Speaker 1: I think you ran into Jerry Jones about they said, hey,

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Speaker 1: sure enough he found a way to make this football team.

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Speaker 1: So the early impressions were very good. I like John

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Speaker 1: everybody was jumping on those guys in the OTAs, but

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, let's go play. Well, those guys

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Speaker 1: guy named Joe Callahan was signed. Right, so let's say,

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Speaker 1: got signed. So the slim pickings out there. Well, speaking

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Speaker 1: to signings though, the Alfred More signing, yes, let's get

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Speaker 1: I could about Alfred More signed did why Why did

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Speaker 1: Brian brought us I'm talking a third person. Why did

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Speaker 1: Brian brought us? Buy into? Next man up? And let's

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Speaker 1: see the young guys participate. I got it. I got

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Speaker 1: an answer for you. The four guys they have here

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Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna give these guys a chance, sure,

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Speaker 1: but we better have an insurance policy. And he was

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Speaker 1: get him in here. It's probably not costing them, okay,

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Speaker 1: playing on the veteran exception. They probably didn't give him

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Speaker 1: that's guaranteed just because they signed him last night or

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Speaker 1: on what these young guys have not at all far.

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Speaker 1: They were just looking for insurance and thought, you know,

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Speaker 1: It's like, do we want to do that again? We're

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Speaker 1: gonna start this season with wide receivers that don't have

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Speaker 1: to do that again? It wasn't a message to ze

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Speaker 1: brings in here. No, it's not like it's threatening the time.

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Speaker 1: The timing's interesting just because right after it out. But

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Speaker 1: Mickey makes a great point about New Orleans being interested

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Speaker 1: because we just watched Tony Pollard run really well out

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Speaker 1: Darius Jackson has the entire regular season career cary total,

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Speaker 1: Week seventeen last year. So I get it, But like Brian,

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Speaker 1: I kind of expected maybe get you know, if this

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Speaker 1: Zeke thing keeps going, at least go through the first game,

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Speaker 1: Alfred Morris was on their short list and in case

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Speaker 1: somebody got hurt or whatever. And then when they saw

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Speaker 1: that he's going to New Orleans might sign there, they said, well, okay,

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Speaker 1: we need to speed up the process on it. Plus,

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Speaker 1: you go into camp and you've got five running backs there. Okay. Now,

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Speaker 1: unexpectedly one of them didn't show up for camp. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so you've got a spot there where you've got reps

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Speaker 1: they've got five six backs in camp. Competition not guaranteed

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Speaker 1: to stop progress. But you're right, Brian, I mean those

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Speaker 1: reps are going not as many are going to Tony

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Speaker 1: Pollard now, right, so or Weber or if Pollard, Park's

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Speaker 1: Chun Those guys are the ones that are not going

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Speaker 1: is it didn't cost him a roster spot because they

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Speaker 1: had an opening because Zeke got put on did not report,

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Speaker 1: so that doesn't count against your nineties. So they didn't

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Speaker 1: have to cut anybody in a Kellen Moore offense, how

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Speaker 1: much theally gonna be thrown to the running back? Well,

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Speaker 1: they used to running back in the swing, you know,

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Speaker 1: they used him as part of Yeah, exactly. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you want Ezekiel Elliott, and he's got a lot

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Speaker 1: if that's what you want to do, If that's how

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Speaker 1: know that thought crossed my mind this morning. I was thinking,

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Speaker 1: just asking, I mean, what is there? Is there a

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna exna have to give me a first round pick. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I don't want a first round pick super Bowl this year.

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Speaker 1: First round pick doesn't help me this year. No, that's true,

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Speaker 1: but does that but in you're in your in your

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Speaker 1: mind is now never never entered my mind, never never

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Speaker 1: felt like, you know, I want him two years left

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Speaker 1: let's go on a super Bowl. I'm not thinking about

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Speaker 1: trading him, No, just brainstorming. I thought this morning, what

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Speaker 1: if they look to trading him and what would be

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Speaker 1: here and performs right now aside from absolutely pick whatever,

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Speaker 1: I would not propose that at all you know, unless

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Speaker 1: to have. But I'm not sure I'm not trading him.

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Speaker 1: You would have to be a player too, because Cam

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Speaker 1: So let your season go. I don't care, all right,

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Speaker 1: because then who's the next guy that's gonna be in line?

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Speaker 1: Let's say next man a right, right, let's next man

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Speaker 1: into Jerry's office. Let's say it's nineteen ninety three all

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Speaker 1: of all self prospecting cowboys, and Stetson is proud to

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Speaker 1: be on the field with America's team. Find Steps and

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Speaker 1: Hats in the pro Shop or at Stetson dot Com. Today,

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Speaker 1: Doctor Pepper is the one you crave. But how do

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Speaker 1: you explain that craving? Imagine being shipwrecked on the desert,

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Speaker 1: diamond alone, glass like curls of self bound the shore

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Speaker 1: with Doctor Pepper colored waves, surrounded by desire. But you

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Speaker 1: can't drink, kids, because it's the ocean, the fish and

433
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Speaker 1: even there, the only thing you want is Doctor Pepper

434
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Speaker 1: and you can't have it. Now, that is it, Doctor Pepper?

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Speaker 1: Craving Doctor Pepper, the one you crave. Back to talking cowboys. Oh,

436
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Speaker 1: we're having so much fun here at cowboys Camp. Would

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Speaker 1: you like to throw back the curtain and explain and

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Speaker 1: explain to the rest of the class exactly why you're laughing? Bicky?

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Speaker 1: It was like a commercial. I had put my bones

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Speaker 1: down and it was kind of un robbed, and I said, oh,

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Speaker 1: I'll get some two skits and juice from that. Do

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Speaker 1: you realize it's popcorn? Two little things? Amuse him? You

443
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Speaker 1: know it's twofold, right, Okay, there's your popcorn ready and

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Speaker 1: feed me? There we go? Oh there they all right,

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Speaker 1: we're a week. We are on periscope as usual, and

446
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Speaker 1: Brian is monitoring things over there. Yeah, I do appreciate it. Thanks, Bill,

447
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Speaker 1: and I appreciate everybody out there across the world that's

448
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Speaker 1: listening to us right now. We've kind of decided we'd

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Speaker 1: like to get you guys more involved, and so I

450
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Speaker 1: kind of put a little message out there. We'd love

451
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Speaker 1: to take your questions, you know, about the team, things

452
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Speaker 1: that we might see, things in camp. So if you

453
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Speaker 1: would fire him in and then I'll scroll through them

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Speaker 1: and keep them short if you could. Just got to

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Speaker 1: read little bits, so if you keep them short, that

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Speaker 1: will help me a lot, and then at some point

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Speaker 1: in time Bill will call for him and we'll go

458
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Speaker 1: that direction. Okay, you can also send me a tweet

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Speaker 1: if you have a question or whatever at CBS eleven,

460
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Speaker 1: Bill Jones, I'm on Twitter now. Dan Rodgers in fact

461
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Speaker 1: says he reminds us that the Saints also have Latavious Murray.

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Speaker 1: They do. Absolutely, Yeah, that's true. And one of the

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Speaker 1: things though, on the flip side of it, the Redskins

464
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Speaker 1: just added or will add Donald Penn at tackle because

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Speaker 1: of a Trent Williams situation where he's not reporting. Now

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Speaker 1: that sounds like a situation where he may not be

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Speaker 1: long for that city. You know, they may move on

468
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Speaker 1: from him, but they're doing the same thing. Essentially, It's like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: he may be gone a while, it's bringing somebody else

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Speaker 1: for now. Yeah, so we'll see. But that that is

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Speaker 1: a bad situations again, yeah, because of his um things

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Speaker 1: with his health and so forth. All Right, the right

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Speaker 1: before the break, we talked about what Jerry said on

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Speaker 1: Sunday night. He said he had a plan in place.

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Speaker 1: He alluded to the fact that he had a plan

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Speaker 1: in place in case this thing lingers. What could that

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Speaker 1: plan possibly be signing Alfred Morris. No, he's not wrong,

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Speaker 1: he's not wrong. I was told this about I was

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Speaker 1: told this that when this before the season started, when

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Speaker 1: the way back into the draft, going all the way

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Speaker 1: back into the draft, that if they did not get

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Speaker 1: a running back, that Jerry said, we'll just go get

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Speaker 1: Alfred Morris. That that that that that Mickey's right. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I know you said it with tongue in cheek, I know,

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Speaker 1: but Mickey is actually very he's right that that was

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Speaker 1: going to be the plan if if if they did

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Speaker 1: not if they could not add a running back in

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Speaker 1: the draft, but they added too, then that was going

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Speaker 1: to be the plan, was that they could go sign

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Speaker 1: Alfred More and the other thing is too. Once you

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Speaker 1: get towards the end of preseason, if this thing is

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Speaker 1: still protracted, hold out. I mean, you can see what

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Speaker 1: happens in final cuts. There might still be an opportunity

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Speaker 1: to add another guy if you need to. But scared,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Road And what you gotta remember, Jerry has

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Speaker 1: a hard time keeping secrets, sure does. He has a

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Speaker 1: hard time. He wanted to tell you, but he just

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Speaker 1: vailuely told you because it was already top of mind

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Speaker 1: because he was already out there. But didn't we talk

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Speaker 1: about it one day or somebody we had the discussion about, well,

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Speaker 1: Alfred Morris is out there. Yeah, So I just I

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Speaker 1: could say, I just to me, I'm count me as

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Speaker 1: well as guys. It's worried just because I think Zeke's

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Speaker 1: crazy enough to do this. I think I think, yeah,

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Speaker 1: or crazy. I think he's I think he's one of

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Speaker 1: those guys that could be very stubborn. And you know,

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Speaker 1: and I I just don't. I don't. I don't feel

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Speaker 1: like I'm dealing This is gonna sound terrible the way

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. I don't think you're dealing with a normal

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Speaker 1: football player here. And normal when I think of conventional

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Speaker 1: thinking that now maybe the fact could be in a

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Speaker 1: very positive way. Yeah exactly. But I'm not calling Zeke

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Speaker 1: dumb or anything like that. I'm just saying, though, somebody

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Speaker 1: that's very headstrong, somebody it's very much you know, on

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Speaker 1: the field, he is, he's got this mentality, and then

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Speaker 1: off the field, you're kind of like thinking, Okay, he's

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Speaker 1: got a little crazy side to him. Anybody's he's holding

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Speaker 1: out two years in advance. I mean all this stuff

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Speaker 1: like that, And is it calculated what? I don't know,

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Speaker 1: but I worry if your hope has to be that

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Speaker 1: that maybe that Zeke does not want to miss game checks.

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Speaker 1: That's got to be your hope right there, because he

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Speaker 1: might be crazy enough to hold out the whole year.

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Speaker 1: He might. Yeah, we've seen it in the league before.

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Speaker 1: But we had this similar conversation with de Marcus Lawrence.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying like you said, Brian, they're not the

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Speaker 1: same guy, but we've had the same fear. Well, if

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Speaker 1: he doesn't get his surgery by this date. And I

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Speaker 1: think finally DeMarcus decided he got on the phone with

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Speaker 1: Steven himself and said, you know, let's figure this out.

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Speaker 1: I want to get the surgery and be ready for

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Speaker 1: the start of the season. Let's go try to win

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Speaker 1: a championship. You think Zeke would really I'm not in

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Speaker 1: his head, but would he really consider his best friend

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Speaker 1: as the quarterback sitting out this season or many games

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Speaker 1: to miss out an opportunity to go win a title.

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Speaker 1: I just wonder, beyond the financial component, would he really

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Speaker 1: be willing to do that. You're minimizing the influence of

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Speaker 1: the agent. You're a blame it at all on Zeke.

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Speaker 1: The agent works for you. Yeah, but the agent. A

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Speaker 1: lot of these guys listening to their agent until they

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Speaker 1: get to the point where now I'm losing money. The

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Speaker 1: agent's not losing money, right, He made his money on

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Speaker 1: Zeke's first deal, and so yeah, he's gonna make money

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Speaker 1: if they get signed. But a lot of times the

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Speaker 1: agent's got the agent in mind because if he gets

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Speaker 1: a big deal, then I get a big deal. Right.

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Speaker 1: And look, he didn't figure this out himself. He was

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Speaker 1: told what to do. You know, let's let's realize that

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Speaker 1: just turned twenty four years old. He didn't figure out

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Speaker 1: the economics of a of a salary, of a salary Cap.

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Speaker 1: Do you think he saw the agent and he heard

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Speaker 1: what Melvin Gordon did in San Diego and he goes, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a good idea, I'd do that. Do you think

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Speaker 1: he sees the direction though this team is going with

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Speaker 1: his career? Do you think he sees that? What do

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Speaker 1: you what do you mean running him into the ground

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Speaker 1: Marco Murray? Yeah, just giving him five, you know, four

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Speaker 1: hundred touches a year. Do you think I think he

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Speaker 1: understoodands that he wants to be fall but he also

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Speaker 1: wants his money to run the ball right and and

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Speaker 1: and he understands that I gotta get it now because

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Speaker 1: who knows? And that's why you know, Yeah, Todd Gurley

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Speaker 1: had got his deal for one year, and now is

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Speaker 1: he gonna be the same back because of that knee issue?

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Speaker 1: So maybe maybe they were trying to give him a

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Speaker 1: shorter deal, you know, we don't know. Maybe they said

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Speaker 1: three years not five, you know, and then you get

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Speaker 1: a chance to get another contract. That's finding good if

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Speaker 1: you're healthy and you're not running the ground after three

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Speaker 1: more years. But you know, they've got his rights for

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Speaker 1: you know, two more years. So okay. The other thing

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Speaker 1: that Jerry I said. We talked about a little bit yesterday,

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Speaker 1: but it's now getting run around the nation ESPN, NFL

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Speaker 1: Network and so forth. The quote from Jerry that you

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Speaker 1: don't have to have a rushing champion to win the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I think you should. You have to play.

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Speaker 1: I think his whole right, just not that set exactly

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Speaker 1: the whole thing the contract And to me, now I

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Speaker 1: should listen to you guys before I say. But to me,

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Speaker 1: what he was saying was not that, oh, I can

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Speaker 1: get any Tom Dick and Harry to be my running

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Speaker 1: back and we can win a Super Bowl. Because until

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Speaker 1: Emmett Smith won the rushing title, no rushing guy that

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Speaker 1: won a rushing title won a Super Bowl. Four four

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Speaker 1: and three of them are Emmett, one other guy, Terrell David,

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Speaker 1: one other guy, one other guy. Yeah, So I don't

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Speaker 1: think what that's what he was saying. I think what

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Speaker 1: he was saying, in a roundabout way is I don't

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Speaker 1: have to pay top dollar for a rushing champ. I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to reset the market. He's saying, I don't have

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Speaker 1: to pay him Todd Gurley money because I've got these

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Speaker 1: other things that take care of And I think that's

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Speaker 1: was his point on that not that nah, Like he said,

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Speaker 1: any one of five coaches could I think I think

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Speaker 1: maybe that was it was a message to the to

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Speaker 1: Zeke that Okay, what's more important to you a rushing

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Speaker 1: championship or a super Bowl? And what he is saying is, Okay,

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Speaker 1: in order to win a super Bowl, we have to

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Speaker 1: have enough funds left over to field an entire team, right,

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Speaker 1: not pay just one player because you want to rush

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Speaker 1: to reset the running back market or and that goes back,

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Speaker 1: but it goes back to what Tank said to Steven

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Speaker 1: on the phone. It's not my problem, my problem. And

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Speaker 1: we got a mail back question that somebody said, why

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Speaker 1: don't they just get all these guys that are up

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Speaker 1: for a deal potentially in a room and just explain

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Speaker 1: to him what we gotta do here, that we got

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Speaker 1: to give a little bit if you guys want to

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Speaker 1: go win a super Bowl. That's where you talk about

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Speaker 1: agents being involved too. Yeah, they don't play a card game.

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Speaker 1: Everybody draw and then that gets the most money, the

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Speaker 1: next guy gets the next most. On my Twitter at

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Speaker 1: CBS eleven Bill Jones, Stephen Nclario says, if you don't

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Speaker 1: need a rushing champ to win a Super Bowl? Why

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Speaker 1: did you draft him fourth overall and build a team

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Speaker 1: around him? Believe Bryan asked that yesterday. You don't know

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Speaker 1: he was going to win a rushing champion chip, but

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Speaker 1: you expect if you're if you're drafting four overall, he's

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Speaker 1: got that ability. Drafted talent is what it is. There's

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Speaker 1: other running backs that are talent. Walder Peyton was pretty talented, right, Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: he was all right so and I don't know if

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Speaker 1: he wanted rushing. He didn't win a championship when the

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Speaker 1: Bears won a Super Bowl. Bears didn't win many games

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Speaker 1: with him, which was was shame him and Barry Sanders

626
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Speaker 1: had a very similar career that Barry Sanders. You know,

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Speaker 1: he won one and been dedroit, didn't win anything. This

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00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: team was very different too. When they did draft him.

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Speaker 1: You had a quarterback coming off of injury who was

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Speaker 1: in his late getting to be late thirties. You had

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Speaker 1: a defense that was not very good overall, and he

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Speaker 1: was gonna be kind of the deodorant for everything. And

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Speaker 1: he was and he's still you know, he was still

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Speaker 1: the focus. He was the reason that they needed ball

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Speaker 1: control to save the defense. And that's what his job was,

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Speaker 1: and that's why I believe that to help Romo, but

637
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: to also make sure that that defense got protected, and

638
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: they've drafted better defensive players since you know. So, do

639
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: you feel like that you've changed your attitude about Zeke? Now?

640
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: What do you mean that he's holding out? Yeah? Well,

641
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,959
Speaker 1: I mean in a way that do you feel like, Okay,

642
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,959
Speaker 1: they could move on without him, whereas before when he

643
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: was here, that you couldn't play without him. I wouldn't

644
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: want to play without him, and I'm not sure they

645
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: would be as good with I haven't seen anybody out

646
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: there to tell me that I got a guy that

647
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,239
Speaker 1: can rush for twelve hundred yards. You haven't been here

648
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: a week, That's what I'm saying. That's why I said that, Okay,

649
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: now they might be able to. Yeah, but that, like

650
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: you said, do you want to take that chance? You changed?

651
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you've changed in regard to can

652
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: they win without it? Yeah? If if Zeke? If we

653
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: remember remember how we just when he was suspended, how

654
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: we sat here and fought you know, the league. They're

655
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: a bunch of sobs, you know, gosh, how can you

656
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: do this? Is Zec? Everything we've ever talked about has

657
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: been positivity about Zeke and how he's played. Yeah, and

658
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 1: now I feel like as a whole, everybody's like, ah,

659
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: you can, yeah, you'll be okay. You don't need a

660
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: you don't need this, you don't need that. Why why

661
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: have we changed okay? Why have we changed our attitude

662
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: because he's Is it because he's holding out? I honestly

663
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: haven't changed my attitude on it. I really haven't. And

664
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: this may sound like a cop out, but I don't.

665
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: I don't blame him wanting it's gonna be okay that

666
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: we played without ze I didn't say that. I didn't

667
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: say that. I didn't say that one bit. When he's

668
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,720
Speaker 1: on the field, I feel like this team can score

669
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 1: at any time. You feel like they should pay him,

670
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: then I think they should pay him what they can

671
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 1: afford to pay him. Yes, okay should? I think the

672
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: case can certainly be made that he should be making

673
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: basically what Todd Gurley money. Yeah. I mean, in my opinion, well,

674
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: from an agent's point of view, it's like, well, yeah,

675
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 1: I'm the rushing champ. What's the highest salary right now? Okay,

676
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 1: let's go above that. I mean, that's just natural agent thinking.

677
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 1: That's what probably Zeke's thinking himself. And then why have

678
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: a contract. Oh no, I understand what you're saying. I mean,

679
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: he signed it, but a three year deal instead of

680
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 1: a five year deal. Contracts are broken every day. Well

681
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 1: that's fine, but I don't have to break it. You know,

682
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: it's well to play. Wait wait, wait, wait a second.

683
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: The rules in the NFL for a first round draft pick,

684
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: the club has your options dollars next year. Yeah, if

685
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 1: they want it. That's what I'm saying that if you

686
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: don't like it, you don't have to play. You can

687
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 1: go play in the what's the new league that's starting up,

688
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: to go to Canada. I just think the narrative about

689
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: Zeke has gone. A draft Dodger is gone from Man,

690
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: you gotta have him July everybody's head. You know, I

691
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: was listening to Brian. I'm sorry, I heard you what

692
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: you said. You know, I think the narrative about him

693
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: is gone from you know, people just saying, oh my gosh,

694
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: you can't play without him too. Oh it's okay. How

695
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: much is off the field stuff played into that with

696
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: some See, we don't know, we don't know. I think

697
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: fans are tired. Yeah, yeah, but Brian, the fans aren't

698
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,240
Speaker 1: running the I know, I know, Mickey, are the people

699
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 1: you're talking about, Mickey? We don't know. Maybe the front

700
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: office is thinking the same thing. Maybe the front office

701
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: is saying, listen, we're tired of dealing with this. I'm

702
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: tired of helping you with legal fees or gett't you

703
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,760
Speaker 1: know counseled. They understand how important he is to what's

704
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: going on on. Think so too. But there they can't

705
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 1: fool themselves. However, now, the only difference between now in

706
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen basically is the defense is better. So that

707
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 1: gives you a chance. Right, he was drafted to make,

708
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 1: hopefully get the defense better. I think, well, the defense,

709
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: he can't get the defense off the field. Uh. And

710
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: then this offense is the receiving corps is deeper I

711
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,879
Speaker 1: think than it ever has been. And your quarterback could

712
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,439
Speaker 1: take a leap forward this year. And that's that's that's

713
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: the major key. When he wasn't here, if you were

714
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator, what are you doing? Dak and Dez

715
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: are not going to beat me. Now, find a way

716
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: to beat me. That They were going to make sure

717
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: that didn't happen, and they did. You ask me. I

718
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: feel like that Zeke is more important contractually than Dak

719
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: because I trust I trust what I see with Zeke

720
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: more than I trust I see with Dak. Does that

721
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: make sense, I'm just saying you. No. No, I'm just

722
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: saying me. I'm just saying me. Dak is not Tom Brady,

723
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: absolutely not. But somebody's gonna say a look at New England.

724
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: Look at New England. They win and they don't have

725
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 1: a running back. Every year they changed drafting the first

726
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: round and running back. But Sony Michelle is a first

727
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: round running back, but they didn't have him. Last year

728
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: they did Super Bowl, they won him Super goot back Michell. Well,

729
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: they still did it by committee. Get ready, it was committee,

730
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: but get ready, get ready, New England. When everybody else

731
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: is gonna play spread offense and throw the ball in

732
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: all that, New England is gonna go the other way.

733
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 1: They're gonna line us, swam the ball down your throat.

734
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: And they drafted to Gay from Alabama this year. Damien Harris,

735
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: who's he run the first rounder? But he was close

736
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: and um he might he might be better than the

737
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: first round That was from Alabama. Who's pound, Who's pound

738
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 1: for pound? The best player on this team pound for pound?

739
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: Just best player? So that make it a trick question

740
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: pound for pound, Yeah, it doesn't matter. Yeah, like the

741
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: heavy weights count. Sure, some will say Zach Martin. I'd

742
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: say Zach Martin, and I would put Zeke second below him.

743
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 1: So that's my answer, Like, he's still very important to

744
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: what this thing is. And and Kellen Moore has told us,

745
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 1: I mean, we're our foundation. Is still our foundation, right,

746
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: I mean, they're not going to just sling it sixty

747
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: times a game, even if Dak does take a step forward.

748
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean they they need him. He knows that.

749
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 1: But Mickey's right too. I mean it's gotta work. It's

750
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751
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752
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,480
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753
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: feel Why would I feel better paying Zeke than I

754
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 1: would Dak? Where are you gonna end up paying him both?

755
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pay one thirty over thirty million dollars though, well,

756
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Speaker 1: Zeke has been at the top of his position for

757
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758
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Speaker 1: you on that. Guys want to know out there, they say,

845
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 1: what do you guys think the starting d line will

846
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 1: be with Lord's healthy, that'd be for the Giants game. Um,

847
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: Tyrone Crawford at the other end at the right end

848
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 1: or Robert Quinn. Well that I think that's the only

849
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: one that's up in the year because you got Antoine

850
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 1: and Malik inside, yeah, and Tristan Hill behind Malik. I think,

851
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: uh this, uh Covington is going to be a player.

852
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 1: Just looking at him. Thanks mackea. I appreciate you didn't

853
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: see him in the one on ones. Yes, that held

854
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: him out, but he was in the team. So the team, Well,

855
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 1: he's coming back from the calf somebody. They're easing him in, Yeah,

856
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 1: and then you're gonna have Armstrong and Taco's gotta get going. Yeah.

857
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: But he's got a guaranteed contract, so he has a

858
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 1: little bit of a net his base salaries guaranteed this year. Yeah,

859
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: so I don't know if you want to, you know,

860
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: eat that and not have a player, you gotta keep

861
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: be careful on how much dead money you eat. And

862
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: then you know, Jalen Jelks, let's see it, Carrie Hyder

863
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: and Hyder I forgot. I knew I was forgetting something.

864
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: Joe Jackson had an interception yesterday. He did because Rico

865
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: drop the ball. Skillets some skillets there yesterday. One more question,

866
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 1: how many how many? How many interceptions do you think

867
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: Dak has from drop balls being picked off? That was

868
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: Mike White that that was not just saying he had

869
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: a few of the first half of the season last

870
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 1: ye Yeah, I sure did. Couple final question here if

871
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: I could, before we let Bill answer some questions as well.

872
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: Who needs to have a good camp to stay on

873
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: the roster on the defensive line or offensive line or

874
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: offensive line? Yeah, I think you kind of talked about

875
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 1: the defensive line. We can maybe talk about the offensive line.

876
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: I think Looney's spot is safe. Is he not as

877
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 1: a swing guy inside? Yeah? Uh? Adam Redman, Sue Philo

878
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 1: think see they worry about his weight, he gets too heavy,

879
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: gets to Hey, he looks like he gets too heavy

880
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: the way he moves. Sometimes he's moved around the league

881
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,399
Speaker 1: a little bit. Okay, one more question, then more likely

882
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: to have a breakout Dorg's Armstrong or Xavier Woods? M h,

883
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,760
Speaker 1: Well your words gave a little shot to Jason Witten yesterday.

884
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: Since since since Woods started sixteen games last year, Armstrong

885
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: barely played to break out, you got to come from nowhere.

886
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: So I think it would be Armstrong because I think, well,

887
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: if Woods Woods is breaking out, he's breaking out into

888
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. Yeah, how's that? Okay? I like Rob

889
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: You thinking the same way Woods? Yeah, but I just

890
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,399
Speaker 1: like watching Dorance rush the pastor man, I I he's

891
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 1: got He's an explosive pass rusher. Like I think you

892
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:14,240
Speaker 1: give him more reps, you're gonna see him really rise. Okay,

893
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:18,399
Speaker 1: what about Whitton? Can you have a breakout, break out,

894
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: break out from nowhere, comeback player of the year? Yeah? Yeah,

895
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: all right, I'm still all right, Bill, I'm still kind

896
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: of going through keep going. Okay, how about one more

897
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: then I'll go one more with you. Dan, I'm sorry,

898
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: this is like technology kills me. Right Now, what player

899
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: would you like to have their first Pro Bowl? What

900
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: player would you like to see have their first opportunity

901
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 1: at the Pro Bowl? Mhmm. It was a good one

902
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: bow and I got one. Go for it. Make it

903
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: you just fired out if you want. That's that's a

904
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: great thing about radio. I like that which by the way, yes,

905
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 1: he used me the other day on the little run

906
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 1: around the goal post. Yeah, he goes leaping up into

907
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: the air and he hits his head on the crossbar

908
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: the goal post. Let me ask you this, Bill, Wait,

909
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 1: did he really? Bill, I'm new to the holding the

910
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: boom mic. Bill asked Jeff Heath about it. That's what

911
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Bill asked the one guy that would have

912
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 1: zero reaction. Bill goes, what do you think about? And

913
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: Jeff Heath looks him like he wasn't impressed. It's like

914
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:34,879
Speaker 1: pretty athletic, and Bill's having to follow up like, oh, yeah,

915
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: he's kind of amazing, isn't it anything? Yeah, he did

916
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: say you to a lot of guys. Yeah, if you

917
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 1: ask the one guy that would have zero reaction, that

918
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 1: was the first DPE we talked to. Asked me, right,

919
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: are you kidding me? I've never seen that before. I

920
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: mean just think about that. I mean, you're you're basically

921
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 1: hitting your head at your six foot tall and you

922
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: hit your head on the rim him of the Well,

923
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: that's I mean the gold Cross. So it's a forty

924
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: eight inch vertical. Well, we see where the running starres

925
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 1: almost due. Yeah, but they're six nine Yeah. Well yeah,

926
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 1: what's his his? Well, that would be a forty eight vertical,

927
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: but it's where the running start, right, Okay, now his versical.

928
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 1: His vertical at the combine was thirty four. His broad

929
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 1: jump was eleven feet, so this is a combination of

930
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: a broad and a vertical. Yeah, he had a good

931
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 1: practice yesterday. By the way they threw. They threw on

932
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 1: him a couple of times, and he was right there

933
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: on its. Hey, let's get some picks and make the

934
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. This ye right, that would be good. That

935
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,919
Speaker 1: would be the difference. They're asking the background noise once again,

936
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 1: it's the sander, Sander and blaster, the sander next door.

937
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 1: Sorry about that, Jerry says, it's a damn drill. It's out.

938
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: It's they're building Steff next door, So sorry about that.

939
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:51,879
Speaker 1: If you want to pick for the first Pro Bowl

940
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 1: that I would like to see how about MALIEK. Collins.

941
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't good one. He'd have to get

942
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: his sack totals up obviously, But when he's healthy, he's

943
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: been really good for them. I just I wish him

944
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: good health. I wish him a full healthy season and

945
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 1: see what he can do. Yeah, I'm with you on that.

946
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: How many touchdowns did Alfred Morris score in two thousand

947
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 1: and seventeen with the Cowboys? Mickey, that was your question

948
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: before we took a break. I believe in five starts

949
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: in fourteen games, he had one hundred and fifteen carries

950
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 1: for five forty seven and one touchdown. One touchdown. He

951
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: averaged four point eight yards a carry. Okay. But how

952
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,760
Speaker 1: many yards to carry did Zeke average the last two years? Okay?

953
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:37,399
Speaker 1: And how many touchdowns did he have? He had more? Yes? One,

954
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: Alfred had one? Yeah, yes, Zeke had six last year,

955
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,240
Speaker 1: seven the year before and fifteen in two thou sixteen

956
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 1: had zone offense. Right, What did you argue in twenty

957
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: seventeen defenses played them differently with Alfred in the game. Yeah, absolutely,

958
00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: because he couldn't beat them. Zeke can beat you. And

959
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 1: what was Kellen? And what was Kellen Moore's answer to

960
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:05,879
Speaker 1: what do you have to do better in the red

961
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: zone to improve? He said, run the ball better. Yeah,

962
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 1: run the ball better. And if you run the ball

963
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,760
Speaker 1: better inside the twenty, then that means maybe you're running

964
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: the ball better inside the ten because you got to

965
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: knock somebody off the ball off the line of scrimmage,

966
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 1: and they didn't do a very good job of that

967
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: last year. So the point is this is not going

968
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: to be a sky Wars offense. That's right, Kellen Moore

969
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: call of the play. I like that Skywars. You know,

970
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: it's not like this. That's something new. That movie came

971
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: out in seventy seven. So I misspoke. I don't think

972
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 1: you knew. I didn't know what's Star Wars. I'm worried

973
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: about you. Yes, I mean I invented my own turn Okay,

974
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 1: sky Wars, right, Luke Starwalker. By the way, I think

975
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 1: Blake Jarwin is going to be a breakout guy talking

976
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 1: about I didn't think the guys might be right. Yeah,

977
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 1: good for them, and he just needs the opportunity guy

978
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 1: thinkson Garrett kind of sounds like he absolutely thinks they

979
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 1: might be right. I'm telling you this two tight end

980
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 1: offense is going to be back to where it used

981
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: to be with those two guys on the field, back

982
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: when Martellis and Jason. Yeah, Martellis and yeah, all right

983
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:19,399
Speaker 1: we got we have two minute warning yet three minute,

984
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 1: three minute warning? All right? What do we expect on

985
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,399
Speaker 1: the practice field today? It's gonna be great seeing Travis

986
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: Frederick drill. Yeah, Travis Frederick, Yes, yes, I want to

987
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,320
Speaker 1: see that. I want to see if. I don't know

988
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: if they're gonna put him in the one on one

989
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: pass rush drill, but I think he's gonna get in team.

990
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 1: They might give him one or two reps in it,

991
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 1: but I just want to see him stand up and

992
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:44,240
Speaker 1: hold somebody off. Yeah, that's coming full speed. In Training

993
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 1: Camp Live today, we're gonna focus on the team period,

994
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: so we'll focus in on Travis Frederick. Have some video

995
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:51,879
Speaker 1: up for you guys to see him and how he's

996
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:55,320
Speaker 1: battling inside. Those inside guys did a nice job yesterday

997
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: the human log and then also Collins there was some

998
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 1: battling going on in with us. Williams snow size, I

999
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: mean Connor Williams. I'll tell you what. Connor Williams on

1000
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 1: a pad. You see the past that kind of tried.

1001
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:06,879
Speaker 1: He tried to jump. I think he was trying to jump.

1002
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 1: He was trying to jump a rookie. He was trying

1003
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 1: to jump hill and he'll kind of swum around him

1004
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 1: a little bit. He was trying to short set him.

1005
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 1: It's what he was trying to do. So next time,

1006
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 1: Connor said, Okay, I'm not gonna short set. I'm gonna

1007
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 1: sit back and do what I'm supposed to do. And

1008
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 1: I want to see. I want to see if if

1009
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 1: Reggie Davis is a one hit wonder. Yeah, can he

1010
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 1: be consistent? And you know the other thing is he's

1011
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: gotten some punt return reps back there, trying to give

1012
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 1: him some more to do. You know, if the more

1013
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: he can do, maybe try to earn that roster spot.

1014
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 1: All I know is he can fly. Well, we saw it.

1015
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,359
Speaker 1: I think he had like three touchdown catches in one

1016
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 1: of those OTAs. Yes, you know he can move. That's

1017
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: when we figured we finally realized he was there. He

1018
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: had been there all last year and I don't think

1019
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 1: anybody knew who he looked like. Can't Cooper Rush also

1020
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 1: build on that good day? Yes, got to be consistent,

1021
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: that's the deal. In training camp. By the way, we

1022
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: will have the Cowboys Blue White Scrimmage on. Yeah. I

1023
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 1: got that rundown this morning. Yeah, part of that, so

1024
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 1: we'll talk about that as the week goes on. That's

1025
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Speaker 1: it for talking Cowboys for today. Reminder Jason Garrett is

1026
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 1: at three o'clock Central time, one o'clock Pacific time. We'll

1027
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Speaker 1: check you next time. Get your popcorn ready. This has

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