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Speaker 1: What's way up at Angela Gee.

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Speaker 2: I'm Angela Gee, and Jasmine from that Jasmine brand dot

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Speaker 2: Com is here with me, and Armani White.

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Speaker 3: Is here, and Big Blanco is here. Yes, Big Blanco,

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Speaker 3: Big Blanco.

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Speaker 1: I feel like that could be like a name for

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Speaker 1: a cologne.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. No, that's that's what I need. I need to

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Speaker 3: get my big Bronco, my big Blanco spray, and then

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Speaker 3: get my big Blanco body.

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Speaker 1: But it's like your fragrance be like what would the

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Speaker 1: notes be?

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Speaker 3: I think it need to be like it gotta be.

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Speaker 3: It got to be some one of them words. This

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Speaker 3: is like a buzz where like Bergamott saying.

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Speaker 4: I'm a studying I don't expect him to say that.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'll be paying attention. I don't spread it,

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Speaker 3: but I be paying attention. I know what I'm going.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we were having a whole conversation about perfumes and

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Speaker 2: colognees before we started. He's like, he's not grown enough

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Speaker 2: to wear a colonial.

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Speaker 3: I'm not there. I'm a candle guy though, Like for sure,

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Speaker 3: like a candle I do I do anything that's smell good,

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Speaker 3: like things to smell good. I just don't know how

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Speaker 3: to and I don't want to be the person that's like,

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Speaker 3: why you got so much of that?

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Speaker 2: On?

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Speaker 4: What age are you going to start wearing Colone official?

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Speaker 3: Like thirty five?

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Speaker 1: Wow?

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Speaker 3: I got wow?

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Speaker 4: I don't wow. Yeah, I feel like you should start

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Speaker 4: a little earlier than you.

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Speaker 3: Gotta help me, You got to increase me into the culture,

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Speaker 3: like I can't, you know, because I don't want to

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Speaker 3: do it myself.

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Speaker 5: I don't want to do it myself.

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Speaker 3: And then like, because people don't tell you if you

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Speaker 3: smell like you're doing too much a woman.

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Speaker 2: Like you got you gotta know that spirits like spirits, spirits, spirits,

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Speaker 2: spirits walk walk into it.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't know if that's.

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Speaker 5: You spread and walk into I don't.

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Speaker 4: I do do do do do?

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Speaker 1: Because some of it is very expensive.

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Speaker 2: It is right right, you know, so you don't want

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Speaker 2: to waste it either spread in the air and walk

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Speaker 2: into it.

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Speaker 3: And I don't want to buy something super expensive to stink,

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Speaker 3: like anybody gonna tell me you stink.

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Speaker 2: They just like, Okay, I don't buy what's popular, you know,

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Speaker 2: But you don't want to smell like everybody, then you

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Speaker 2: won't stink. There are some fragrances that I think are

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Speaker 2: staples you know that you know are solidified.

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Speaker 5: What's the ones I need to go for?

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Speaker 2: I think time for It is always good they and

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Speaker 2: they have so many different oness So I think from

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Speaker 2: that collection you can be.

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Speaker 3: Like I like my manager smell like time Ford. So

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Speaker 3: I don't want to smell like my manager.

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Speaker 2: But there's a lot of different ones. There's like tuskin leather.

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Speaker 2: Then there's there's like a whole bunch of different.

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Speaker 1: Different like tobacco.

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Speaker 2: But now, yeah, I use electric cherry you like and

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Speaker 2: you can mix them too.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I know that. You know that. See, let's talk

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Speaker 3: about you.

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Speaker 1: This is just a conversation we had.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was interesting because I was saying I

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Speaker 2: didn't really start wearing it every day. Well I still

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Speaker 2: don't wear it every day, but not until I got

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Speaker 2: a little older too. Yeah, we're yeah, at least we

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Speaker 2: know he's not ashy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah right, right with my body.

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Speaker 3: But as I do all that and be on my

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Speaker 3: self cared thing, but like not not you know, I

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Speaker 3: just don't do that the sense. Yeah, I'm not there yet.

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Speaker 2: Well let's talk about you for a second. You're from Philly, Yes,

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Speaker 2: what's Philly? And we actually have Friday up here Friday,

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Speaker 2: and he's on that. He's on the EP as well.

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Speaker 2: For sure, I feel like this EP could have been

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Speaker 2: an album.

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Speaker 3: I Mean what it really was was I was traveling

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Speaker 3: so much in the past, like nos, I could have

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Speaker 3: never forecast the Themount blessings and things that happened for me.

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Speaker 5: So it was like, I gotta put some music out,

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Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: It was like so much time was going on, so

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Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, let me collect the one the

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Speaker 3: records that I really really feel good about, and we

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Speaker 3: started making we started making the album. So there were

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Speaker 3: songs that we were going to put on the album

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Speaker 3: that I was like, nah, just give them to them

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Speaker 3: right now, you know, giving those records right now, and

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Speaker 3: while we're still finalizing what this album is gonna be.

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Speaker 3: That's why it says road to Castle Blanco. It's like,

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Speaker 3: while we're getting Castle Blanco together, let's give them tease

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Speaker 3: like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And then Billy Eilish obviously that song really really blew

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Speaker 2: us good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Okay, so when you did that.

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Speaker 2: Because that's a sample right from Nori on there, So

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Speaker 2: then how does that work?

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Speaker 1: Because we've been watching like sharing and court and seeing

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Speaker 1: all that happen.

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Speaker 2: So was that something that you did that and then

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Speaker 2: you were like, oh, this is taking off now I

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Speaker 2: got to clear it or how does that work?

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Speaker 3: Nothing about any of this stuff before I did, Like

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Speaker 3: when I when I did it, it went viral and

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Speaker 3: I was like, okay, I can't release this because of

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Speaker 3: the sample thing I was. I wanted to just be like,

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Speaker 3: you know, I asked forgive this later. But then I

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Speaker 3: was like, it became a moment where it was like,

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Speaker 3: you know that the song was growing so popular. I

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Speaker 3: was like, you know, I just thought to myself like

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Speaker 3: if this happens. Granted it did, but I was like,

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Speaker 3: in my head, if this happens, it's going to be

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Speaker 3: really really big. I don't want to minimize it because

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Speaker 3: I was being anxious or being like desperate or being

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Speaker 3: you know, eager to get it out. So you got

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Speaker 3: to go through the sample process, which is like you

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Speaker 3: send the carrier pigeon out.

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Speaker 5: They dropped it, they dropped the mail off.

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Speaker 3: Eventually it's like it's such this really old, antiquated process.

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Speaker 3: It took like two or three months to get it

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Speaker 4: It's a long time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's a lot of like worry.

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Speaker 3: Imagine me fighting with like a bunch of ten year

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Speaker 3: old kids on TikTok, like, no, the song is coming out.

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Speaker 3: They're like, Yo, your moment your momentum is dead all

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Speaker 3: this like you know, yeah, they was cooking me. They

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Speaker 2: They don't carry you know they I tell you, I'll

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Speaker 1: Your momentum is.

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Speaker 3: Dad, Like, your momentum is done. Your windows closed. They like, man,

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Speaker 3: it's over. We don't want this song no more. And

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Speaker 3: I'm just sitting there.

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Speaker 4: I'm in my.

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Speaker 3: Bedroom like, na, like give me one more week.

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Speaker 4: Like so, yeah, like it popped before you got it cleared.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, did Noori reached out to you at all?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? So, well he didn't reach out. I've seen him

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Speaker 3: at something in the water the festival, and I was, well,

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Speaker 3: last year, last year, last year. Yeah, I seen him

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Speaker 3: last year and I was like, Yo, appreciate you for

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Speaker 3: let me use the sample. What are you talking about?

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Speaker 3: And I'm like I heard, I heard he ain't really

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Speaker 3: what's sample? And I was like, Billy Iris and he said,

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Speaker 3: oh I love that record.

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Speaker 5: So I was one of the I was one of

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Speaker 5: the you know, the exceptions of the rule.

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Speaker 3: But and afterwards, you know nor he jumped on the

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Speaker 3: remix with Luda and Buster. Yeah yeah, so so yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean like it's been it's been cool, Like the

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Speaker 3: whole trajectory of the record, like seeing it go where

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Speaker 3: it went and being embraced by everybody that's been a

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Speaker 3: part of it has been.

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Speaker 1: Really whose idea was that remix?

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Speaker 3: Man? Late anymore, dude, I'm playing.

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Speaker 1: It was a big deal though, the legends for sure.

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Speaker 3: For sure we had we had Originally we were supposed

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Speaker 3: to do a few different remix and then some of them,

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Speaker 3: which was like a headache, but uh, that one was

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Speaker 3: the one I just fought for because it was like

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Speaker 3: if all of them fall through, this is like a

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Speaker 3: I grew up watching Buster rhyms like that record with

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Speaker 3: has to happen. If nothing else happens, this has to happen.

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Speaker 1: You know, who are some people you grew up listening

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Speaker 3: Philly, So I mean it's like Roots. Obviously there was

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Speaker 3: a DVD era when I was a kid. There was

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Speaker 3: Meek was obviously on the DVDs. Those are like the

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Speaker 3: three big names that I was watching on the DVDs.

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Speaker 3: But then also like State Property, like that was inescapable

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Speaker 3: when I was a kid, like everything that they was doing.

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Speaker 3: And then yeah, and then like I said, like just

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Speaker 3: that neo soul moment, like like the music Soul Child

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Speaker 3: Joe Scott's like all of that was just like it

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Speaker 3: just shows you all the different verticals you could be,

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Speaker 3: you know, you could do and be from Philly, be

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Speaker 3: a artist from Philadelphia.

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Speaker 2: So it's all spir That's an interview where you talked

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Speaker 2: about actually running into Black Thought at the I think

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Speaker 2: it was at the Roots picnic.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yea, yeah, yeah, you know, no, that's I seen him.

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Speaker 3: He does the he does the mixtape, he do mix

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Speaker 3: the Black Mixtape where he just be freestyling over like

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Speaker 3: it's it's kind of like bullying. He like he'll bring

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Speaker 3: like a big artist on stage and then they will

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Speaker 3: just play all of their songs, but he'll leave an

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Speaker 3: open verson and Black Thought just runs the open verse

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Speaker 3: for like a thirty two bar every time he plays.

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Speaker 4: He can go for a long yeah yeah, yeah, it's

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Speaker 4: not a game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So so I'm right.

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Speaker 3: I caught him right either right before or right after,

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Speaker 3: and I'm walking up to be like, Yo, what's something

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Speaker 3: on my money? Now? I know you, like you're killing

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Speaker 3: right now, and I'm like, sweet, I'm just suck, like.

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Speaker 4: Right, you are so sweet?

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Speaker 3: Right you imagine me saying that the Black Wow, how

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Speaker 3: sweet if you sir? Yeah, it's been dope though, like

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Speaker 3: because ever since then he's called me like he's like, Yo,

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Speaker 3: that's baby, bro, Like anytime he speaks about me, Like

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Speaker 3: even we just did Jimmy Filling and they had to

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Speaker 3: fly to they had to fly to LA for Grammy Weekend.

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Speaker 5: It just got messy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is tough because now you got to break up.

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Speaker 3: I said, I gotta find somebody. I might have just

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Speaker 5: I didn't mess out up. I ain't messed nothing up.

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Speaker 3: uh yeah, but the.

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Speaker 4: Next girlfriend before you.

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Speaker 3: Find the next girlfriend.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to Jesse, Shout out to Jesse. That's that's crazy.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of real sometimes.

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Speaker 5: Tour was great? Jesse?

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Speaker 3: Great? Me and her ran around like we did yoga.

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Speaker 1: What are you doing downward dog and all that she

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I got Yeah, I'm flexible, I said Paul. She

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Speaker 4: Now comfortable lett us know he's playing.

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Speaker 3: I'm comfortable.

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Speaker 5: I'm comfortable. I'm definitely like I I could do my

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Speaker 3: It was just like it's just I'm goofy so like

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you my DJ. My DJ threw water in

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Speaker 4: Are you serious?

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Speaker 5: It was out?

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Speaker 2: Get paid on that tour, because I know sometimes being

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just literally for the look. And so

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Speaker 2: That was when you were like, okay, now we were

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Speaker 3: I never admitted this publicly. I never admit it this publicly.

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Speaker 3: I did a the Rito's competition.

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Speaker 3: It was in like twenty eighteen, and I remember at

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Speaker 3: I can't do it. He said, it's for fifty bands.

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Speaker 1: I'm there, packed the suitcase.

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Speaker 3: I'm mad about it. Let me pack the suitcase, man.

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Speaker 3: And I went out there. We did that competition, and

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Speaker 3: I got that fifty Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Fifty set me up for a little bit. Fifty fifty

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Speaker 1: Bit before that, Like what was happening before you got

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Speaker 3: Nothing, I mean again, I had like I had some

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Speaker 3: Right here, Before that, I met fact Before that, I

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Speaker 5: So I had a couple of dollars for the car accident.

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Speaker 5: I was stretching this car accident money ain't a lot

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Speaker 2: And then I feel like just from reading your story

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Speaker 3: Right after absolutely, I think that so that that that

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Speaker 3: I was whatever. I was just trying to be anything

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Speaker 3: and I didn't know how to articulate that. I was

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Speaker 1: So that's understandable.

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Speaker 2: I think anybody that would know your story and know

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Speaker 3: Right right right? Well that was like that was my

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Speaker 3: years old, like and my best friend at design was

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00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,160
Speaker 3: my cousin. Like, so I lost all of that and

444
00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,520
Speaker 3: that fire. I didn't really know how to articulate the

445
00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,000
Speaker 3: things that I was feeling waking up every day. It

446
00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:09,800
Speaker 3: was just like somebody has to feel this pain other

447
00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:11,600
Speaker 3: than me. And that was you know that I felt

448
00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,760
Speaker 3: that way for a really long time until you know,

449
00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,920
Speaker 3: I think one of the things that really really shaped

450
00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,240
Speaker 3: things for me at the time my mom. She made

451
00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,920
Speaker 3: me start being I was the sound engineer at church

452
00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,720
Speaker 3: and uh and it's like this is such a small thing,

453
00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,359
Speaker 3: but I would do on Saturdays. They had me come

454
00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,399
Speaker 3: in and do funerals and you know, I'd be in

455
00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,439
Speaker 3: the back playing my game boy like it's not paying attention.

456
00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,120
Speaker 3: But some you know, a bunch of families is coming in, crying,

457
00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,720
Speaker 3: falling over and stuff like that. And one day I'm

458
00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:40,600
Speaker 3: just watching it, you know, like my baby, like you know,

459
00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:42,479
Speaker 3: they're doing the whole thing over the funeral, and Uh,

460
00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,639
Speaker 3: I realized, I'm so discommun I'm like, I'm so you know,

461
00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:48,600
Speaker 3: not commune, not not what is the story I'm looking for?

462
00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:52,000
Speaker 3: Like this this just disassociated with everything that's going on.

463
00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,760
Speaker 3: It's like it helped me understand that like, no matter

464
00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,480
Speaker 3: how deep, how whatever sad it is, your story is,

465
00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,959
Speaker 3: how hard, how you roughier pain is that you're feeling,

466
00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,159
Speaker 3: somebody just doesn't care, Like you know, if somebody it

467
00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,760
Speaker 3: just can't relate somebody it just does not affect them.

468
00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:11,679
Speaker 3: Somebody is just not not connected to that, and you

469
00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:13,800
Speaker 3: can live your entire life just thinking like, man, you

470
00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:15,920
Speaker 3: gotta feel my story. You can just you know, kind

471
00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:17,560
Speaker 3: of pick it up and let that fire live through you.

472
00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,160
Speaker 3: And that's what I decided to do at that point.

473
00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:20,840
Speaker 3: I was like, I need this fire to live through

474
00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,439
Speaker 3: me and not live outside of me and live around me.

475
00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,040
Speaker 3: So that was that first house fire. That second house

476
00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,040
Speaker 3: fire put a lot of things in a perspective as well,

477
00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:33,400
Speaker 3: because I know there was just like, uh, I think

478
00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,720
Speaker 3: it was that moment of realization that like, there's one

479
00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,640
Speaker 3: thing that could happen just like that, and everything can

480
00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,320
Speaker 3: go away, you know what I'm saying. Like, and I

481
00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:42,960
Speaker 3: was working so hard, I was trying. I was that

482
00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,680
Speaker 3: was clean. I'm back in Philly, but I'm not doing

483
00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:47,560
Speaker 3: nothing in the streets. I'm not doing nothing outside. I'm

484
00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,280
Speaker 3: not hanging around this person evers. I'm doing everything steering

485
00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,800
Speaker 3: clear and that one fire, I was in jail and

486
00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:55,600
Speaker 3: you know, I'm fighting for my life now.

487
00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,480
Speaker 1: So they accuse you of yeah, they accuse.

488
00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:02,160
Speaker 3: Me Arson, And I'm sitting in jail just like how

489
00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:04,600
Speaker 3: like I don't get it, you know, Like the guy

490
00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,520
Speaker 3: in the in the cell next to me, he here

491
00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,399
Speaker 3: because he just got picked up with crack and I'm like,

492
00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:10,919
Speaker 3: what did I do? Like I was just you know,

493
00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:12,960
Speaker 3: so it's like and it helped me and put it

494
00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,080
Speaker 3: in perspective. I was like, Yo, there's one thing you

495
00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,320
Speaker 3: could do that fast that could ruin everything. And when

496
00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,200
Speaker 3: I got out of there, I said, I don't want

497
00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,159
Speaker 3: to let any of these moments slip any anymore, you know.

498
00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,440
Speaker 3: I don't want to just be sitting by the wayside

499
00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:29,000
Speaker 3: like today until they go by. I just do it tomorrow.

500
00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,080
Speaker 3: Everything that I ever wanted to do, I'm just gonna

501
00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:32,720
Speaker 3: do it. I'm just gonna work for I had met

502
00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,760
Speaker 3: Waller around the time too, and Men and Waller started

503
00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,640
Speaker 3: having like anytime I have conversations, I would leave inspired.

504
00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:41,720
Speaker 3: I was just like, there's no way that I can't

505
00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:43,600
Speaker 3: do everything that I want to do if he's doing

506
00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:47,639
Speaker 3: everything he wants to do. Amazing story He's had way

507
00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,400
Speaker 3: more time taking away from him than I'm I've only

508
00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,240
Speaker 3: been in here for a couple of eights, not even

509
00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:53,760
Speaker 3: how long was in there, like a day.

510
00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:54,840
Speaker 5: I was only in there for like a day.

511
00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:56,680
Speaker 3: That's a time for that little day.

512
00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:58,320
Speaker 5: Was like, that's enough.

513
00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:01,600
Speaker 3: Were you sitting there? Because when you're sitting there, it's

514
00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:05,320
Speaker 3: like I'm sitting there, you know. They call my name

515
00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,879
Speaker 3: up and they read the charges. My charges was crazy.

516
00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,840
Speaker 3: It was like simple assault, felling, need by this, this,

517
00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:12,720
Speaker 3: and they just they add things on the list and

518
00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,160
Speaker 3: they're like, yo, the bells set one hundred thousand dollars

519
00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,639
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, time out there and my

520
00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,639
Speaker 3: lawyers trying to like you know, and then at that

521
00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:24,200
Speaker 3: point you realize, like, I don't you know, like when

522
00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:25,879
Speaker 3: you at that you know, when you're at that moment

523
00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:29,359
Speaker 3: where your life, your entire existence is in it, you know,

524
00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:30,880
Speaker 3: just up to someone else's decisions.

525
00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,080
Speaker 2: You don't know what can happen. Yeah, you could not

526
00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:34,480
Speaker 2: have done something. You know how many people that are

527
00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,399
Speaker 2: sitting in jail that didn't do anything wrong?

528
00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,280
Speaker 3: Right, And I'm sitting That's the whole thing I'm thinking.

529
00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,880
Speaker 3: I'm I called everybody I knew in the industry. I'm like, hey, guys,

530
00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:42,880
Speaker 3: I only gotten to say. I'm just like I think

531
00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:44,480
Speaker 3: I might be in jail for a little bit. So

532
00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:46,800
Speaker 3: like y'all still remember me, right, Like you know, so

533
00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,919
Speaker 3: I was just panicking and to make it out of

534
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,440
Speaker 3: where how you know, to be able to walk away

535
00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,040
Speaker 3: from that no charges, like they dropped every charge on it.

536
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,159
Speaker 4: That's a blessing, that is that's a lot of trauma.

537
00:20:58,560 --> 00:20:58,760
Speaker 3: You know.

538
00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,000
Speaker 4: Have you went to fa how have you processed all

539
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 4: this trauma?

540
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:07,399
Speaker 3: Write about it? I'm very like I think and I

541
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,520
Speaker 3: could I could be very wrong about this, but I

542
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,240
Speaker 3: know most of the people who I know that go

543
00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,159
Speaker 3: to therapy a lot of times they have trouble just

544
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,000
Speaker 3: like articulating themselves and articulating like the things going on

545
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,280
Speaker 3: within their life. I'm just I've always tried to just

546
00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,760
Speaker 3: be an open book as much as possible and talk

547
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,120
Speaker 3: about everything because a lot of times, you know, even

548
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:26,960
Speaker 3: I went to I used to go to grief counseling,

549
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 3: especially with like you know, losing friends, losing family, and

550
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 3: a lot of the times the answer is already here,

551
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,479
Speaker 3: but I just need to find the answer. I need

552
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,440
Speaker 3: to speak out. I need to vocally say the answer.

553
00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,359
Speaker 3: I need to vocally like go through whatever's going on

554
00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:40,240
Speaker 3: in my mind.

555
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:41,760
Speaker 5: And sort out all my thoughts.

556
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:43,320
Speaker 3: So a lot of times I just write about it

557
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 3: or I just talk out loud as much as possible

558
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,719
Speaker 3: to people who I do look at as you know,

559
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,199
Speaker 3: like guidance or counseling figures in my life, you know.

560
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,159
Speaker 2: And I also know speaking of your family, mem as

561
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,399
Speaker 2: your father, Yes, right, and you lost your father as well,

562
00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,200
Speaker 2: but you did get to spend some time with him.

563
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 2: So can you tell us about your relationship with your dad?

564
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 2: And even like those few months that you did get

565
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 2: to be at his side, where were some of the

566
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 2: conversations that let me let me, let.

567
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 3: Me tell you why me and my dad a bad relationship.

568
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 3: I blame hip hop because nobody had a dad when

569
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,439
Speaker 3: I had a dad. As soon as my dad passed,

570
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 3: everybody's like, you know, kicking it with my old man,

571
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 3: and I'm like, dad, like where you get a dad from?

572
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:27,199
Speaker 3: But you know, me and my dad's relationship was it

573
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,720
Speaker 3: was kind of rocky, just because a lot of which

574
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 3: that I think, you know, my mom and my dad's

575
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 3: relationship was a little rocky, and I just picked aside.

576
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 3: I didn't understand it. I just picked a side, and

577
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 3: I picked a side that I was like, Okay, I

578
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 3: live with my mom, so she got to be right.

579
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 3: As I grew up, I understood things and a lot more.

580
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,199
Speaker 3: Not to say that one side or the other, but

581
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 3: it was just like, oh, I can see it from

582
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 3: you know, see it from both perspectives now. So when

583
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,399
Speaker 3: he when he got cancer, I didn't find out until

584
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 3: like it was deep into it. I found it until

585
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 3: it was deep into it. And at that point it

586
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,639
Speaker 3: was I think. I just started kind of getting everything

587
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,919
Speaker 3: going with the music, and I heard little whispers about it,

588
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,439
Speaker 3: like that he might be a little sick. But I

589
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 3: was like, you know, one day, like when I get

590
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 3: all this together, I'm gonna pull up on him. And

591
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 3: I had this idea. I was like, once I get famous,

592
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 3: I can fix everything in my life. It was completely untrue,

593
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 3: but that was right right, and that was my mentality.

594
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 3: I was coming home from doing the show. It was

595
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 3: twenty sixteen. I was that we had the last show

596
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 3: in Philly, and I was like, I'm about to turn

597
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,439
Speaker 3: down the block to just like save It's up to him,

598
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 3: and I'm looking out of my window, and I see

599
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,159
Speaker 3: my dad's like a big guy braize and anything. I

600
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 3: see this like smaller guy with ball head getting out

601
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 3: of my dad's car and picking my little sister. And

602
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,400
Speaker 3: I'm just I don't know who it is. I'm just staring.

603
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,399
Speaker 3: I'm staring, staring. Once I realized my dad, I just

604
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 3: turned off the block and I was like stuck, like

605
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 3: I went to a Chinese store and I just start

606
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 3: balling my eyes out in the parking lot, and I

607
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:53,120
Speaker 3: was just thinking, like.

608
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 5: Damn, like you know, it started feeling like that.

609
00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 3: I guess like all the things that I was hearing

610
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 3: started to kind of to become real, and I started

611
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 3: to feel that like beginning of the end uh moment.

612
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 3: And we kicked it. Like I pulled up on him,

613
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 3: like a week or two after that, on his birthday,

614
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,199
Speaker 3: I pulled up on him. We just like cried, like

615
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,160
Speaker 3: you know, just just like I just cried with him

616
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,400
Speaker 3: for like an hour and and I cut everything music

617
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 3: related off. I just chilled. I just chilled it as

618
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 3: I was kicked it with him up until he passed.

619
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 3: He passed that June, so like from like April to June,

620
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 3: I was just like a caretaker, like anytime he needed

621
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 3: to go to the hospital, all these things. I remember

622
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,439
Speaker 3: one day he just woke up twelve and night just like,

623
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 3: I want to take me to the casino two hundred dollars.

624
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 3: I won't go to the casino' Like it's not that

625
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 3: you don't need to go to I need to go

626
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 3: to casino. He settled on, Yeah, he might have, he

627
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 3: might have. He wanted the casino in Chinese food. That

628
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 3: was like what he bounced back and forth. He settled

629
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 3: on the Chinese food. Yea, But yeah, I kicked it.

630
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 3: I kicked it with him, like I until I'm talking

631
00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 3: about to the very last minute he passed away hold

632
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 3: my hand, and that was like a really yeah, that

633
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 3: was like a really really rough feeling for me.

634
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 5: Like I didn't for a while after that.

635
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 3: I ain't, like really honestly with this whole role out

636
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,479
Speaker 3: and just coming back into you know, all this music stuff.

637
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 3: That's really the most I've been in Philly since he

638
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,199
Speaker 3: passed away. I haven't been able like to really, you know.

639
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 3: We shot a music video on my block last year,

640
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 3: and that was like the longest time I've spent on

641
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 3: my streets since he passed I just like it would

642
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 3: just bring back too many feelings, too many you know, right.

643
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 2: Was it hard for you to leave Philly because I

644
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 2: know you're such a you know.

645
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it was. It's like I gotta love

646
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 3: hate relationship with it now like I love it, I

647
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 3: love the city. I'm always gonna let the city. But

648
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 3: there's a lot of trauma attached to the city, and

649
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 3: so I don't I don't attach my Like when I

650
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 3: was a kid, it was I gotta be everything Philly.

651
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 3: Everything around me gotta be Philly, you know. If it

652
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 3: ain't this ain't no. I'm from too and far, you know.

653
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 3: But now it's just kind of like like Philly is

654
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,360
Speaker 3: always going to be in me, and I understand that,

655
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 3: but I need to move on and experience other things

656
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 3: and like and bring it back to Philly.

657
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 5: I can't, you know. Like what we say is like

658
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 5: I can't.

659
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 3: I can't put the city on from the porch, like

660
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 3: I gotta, I gotta get off the porch. I gotta

661
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 3: go travel, and I got to bring it all back

662
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 3: or or bring what I got from Philly across the world,

663
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 3: either one or the other. But I can't just sit

664
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 3: in Philly all day and do it so.

665
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 2: And so now you're on deaf Jam. So tell us

666
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 2: how that situation happened. When it came to figuring out

667
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 2: where do I want to sign a deal?

668
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:22,159
Speaker 1: Why deaf Jam.

669
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 5: Death Jamn, you put me in a headlock.

670
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 3: Right right here, a bunch of other labels in the room.

671
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,439
Speaker 5: You put me in the headlock for it was it

672
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 5: was honestly, it was.

673
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 3: It was just a really it was a conversation in person,

674
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 3: and that was what was like more, that was the

675
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,199
Speaker 3: thing that cut through as opposed that every conversation I

676
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 3: was having with the labels, like when Billy Eilish was happening,

677
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 3: it was like NonStop phone called the phone called the

678
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 3: phone call. But Tunji was the only person that like,

679
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,679
Speaker 3: we flew out and sat down, met we played music.

680
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,719
Speaker 3: It wasn't just play me Billy Eilish, It was like

681
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 3: whatever things are you working on? We talked about the

682
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 3: artist trajectory, the career, like what I actually want to

683
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 3: do as an artist, and and that was like you

684
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 3: know that just that spoke a lot more volumes to me.

685
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 3: And then on top of it, he respected me as

686
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 3: an artist and respected me as a partner because that

687
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 3: was what I really wanted. He was like, I was

688
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 3: independent for so long. I was like, if I go

689
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 3: to a label, I want to do a partnership.

690
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 1: Right, that makes sense. You prove what you can do

691
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,360
Speaker 1: on your own, right exactly.

692
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 3: I wanted to do a partner It was that was

693
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 3: like the I was standing on it.

694
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 2: I was like, important because I think labels also care

695
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 2: a lot about what's happening on social media platforms. Especially

696
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 2: everybody's trying to crack these TikTok codes and that's something

697
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 2: that you.

698
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 3: Know, she said, But that is important though, right, and

699
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,360
Speaker 3: people are always like, Okay, what's the cheat code.

700
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 1: To making this happen?

701
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 2: And sometimes you try to contrive that and people can

702
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 2: see right through it and it doesn't work.

703
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 3: Well. It's I was before, like before before the music

704
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 3: thing became a part of it, we was just I

705
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 3: was just having conversations with people who were on TikTok

706
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 3: and like really successful millions of followers, and they was like, yo,

707
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 3: just create, take something that you like and zero win

708
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 3: on it, and it could be anything like me, I

709
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 3: like cereal. You know what I'm saying. I went I

710
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 3: went to church, like this random thing. So it's like

711
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 3: it was like make a character out of whatever it

712
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 3: is that you zero went on. And it could be

713
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 3: the simplest thing, like if you like shoes, you know,

714
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 3: now you become a shoe kind of sour or whatever

715
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 3: it is. So uh, I like just me being from

716
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 3: Philly and like I used to write my journal a lot,

717
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 3: like I started. I started out doing that. I would

718
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 3: just do these dear journal videos. It was kind of

719
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 3: like moesha, you know what I'm saying. I was just

720
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 3: I was writing my journals just like about random stuff.

721
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 3: I'm like, damn journal, what did y'all start? When the

722
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 3: girls start riding and hell cast and smoking black and

723
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 3: moss like it was just it was just random.

724
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 4: Things like that, so funny.

725
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I mean, thank you first of all, but

726
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 3: I was right, that was real, sweetie.

727
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 4: You're not gonna let me, got it.

728
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 3: I was just like, how do I how do I

729
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 3: implement personality over anything on this platform? And that was

730
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 3: where I started at, was just like putting my personality

731
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 3: onto the platform. And uh, once that grew, the Billy

732
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 3: Eis thing just happened, and it was like the page

733
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 3: was already active, so Billy Eilish happened. It went up,

734
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 3: and how we sustained Billy Eilish was personality. I just

735
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 3: kept doing skits, making videos like I was doing. I

736
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 3: started doing like I started doing therapy like these like

737
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 3: therapy videos where I was like a therapy like a

738
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 3: music label therapist or whatever, talking to artists and I'm

739
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 3: just yeah, right right, yeah, for sure need that. So yeah,

740
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 3: but it really just boiled down the personality. I think

741
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 3: that's how you kind of cracked the code on any platform.

742
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,719
Speaker 1: How is Billy Eilish with the song Billy Eilish.

743
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 3: Billy finally reached out to me and I was like,

744
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 3: I took you so long. I was waiting at this

745
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 3: whole time. And Billy Billy she love it, nah, she

746
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 3: she she she posted it the other day again when

747
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 3: she posted it the other day and then uh, randomly

748
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 3: I had I had d M the Shane DM me back,

749
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 3: but she just like it was like a week or

750
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,719
Speaker 3: two later. She just liked the message. And I'm like,

751
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 3: what made you come back to my DM? What you're

752
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 3: doing over now?

753
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 5: But she's been cool.

754
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 3: We're playing a festival together, I want to say, in August,

755
00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 3: so I probably end up meeting or meeting up for

756
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 3: the first time then, but yeah, not Billy. You know,

757
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 3: she's been really cool.

758
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 5: That was a Chico.

759
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 3: I don't know why ain't think of that.

760
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 1: I know that whoever you want to be a song.

761
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 5: Yeah exactly is about to start write a song about.

762
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 2: Are some people that you feel like, Okay, this is

763
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 2: who I really want to who else is golded to you?

764
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 3: Like artists are just like people in general, both like you.

765
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 4: That was.

766
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 3: I don't look like we're looking at each other. No,

767
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 3: I'm not.

768
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 5: I'm not entirely sure.

769
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 3: Like I've met a lot of people that I really

770
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 3: it's just they kind of just been coming up randomly.

771
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh wait, like Kanye West is I think

772
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 3: that's a really big one that that's just been always

773
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 3: kind of like an inspiration growing up. So me and

774
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 3: Kanye at some point is on on that list. That's

775
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 3: definitely on that list. Will Smith is on that list

776
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 3: of course, right, Yeah, that's that's like these these the

777
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,239
Speaker 3: easy ones I'm trying to think. I was. I think

778
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 3: it's something like real abstract, like I was like, like

779
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 3: I was like a girl, like we was at we

780
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 3: we did the we did the n double ACP Awards,

781
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 3: and we were sitting at the table with making good

782
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 3: my man, my man, and Ross had cold feet. She

783
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 3: was on his body. He couldn't do it, no matter fact.

784
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 3: And the NAACP Wars. I get.

785
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 5: It's this thing, right, It's the thing.

786
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 3: I got, Like I'm super goofy. So anytime I try

787
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 3: to be serious or like sexy or whatever it is,

788
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 3: I'm believing. No, it's not even believe it. I mess up.

789
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 3: I always met do something, get nervous, not even nervous,

790
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,239
Speaker 3: just like I can't do it, like I don't know.

791
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 3: So I met. I'm at the nuble ACP Awards and

792
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 3: and where we're about to present presented an awards.

793
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 5: Me and Coco Coco Jones.

794
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 3: We up there on stage's beautiful, absolutely and I'm up there,

795
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 3: so I'm I'm telling her the same thing. Backstage, I'm like,

796
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 3: I can never be serious. So she's like, just please

797
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 3: don't mess up like I can't. So I get up

798
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 3: on stage and I'm Nelson Award and I'm like the

799
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 3: winner of the n double a P Awards. And they

800
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 3: was like, nah, they said, how you missed. I'm like,

801
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 3: I missed the most important letter, and they was frying me.

802
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 3: Samuel Jackson, like what it was bad? It was all bad.

803
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: That was the moment that people remember.

804
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, right right now they know me, they know me,

805
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 3: that kid always messing up. I don't know what's up

806
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 3: with you.

807
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:23,959
Speaker 2: That's like saying all lives matters, you know, people not

808
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 2: even if you forgot to see.

809
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 3: Colored colored, I should have told you.

810
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 2: Now, let me ask you this about the EP right,

811
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 2: so proud of you? Is that a message your grandmother

812
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 2: really just happened to.

813
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: Leave for you.

814
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 3: My grandmom is like I wish I could, I wish

815
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 3: I could make her act. My grandmom is mean, she.

816
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 4: Was nice on that message.

817
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 3: She because she's become over the time, Like over time

818
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 3: she's become nicer. But she the one that like when

819
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 3: you're getting you get in the car at the church,

820
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 3: like she's just talking about everybody, My grandma, my.

821
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: Grandma, they get a pass when it's the grandma.

822
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, my grandma just always like she just she just

823
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,959
Speaker 3: popped fly whenever she get a chance to so with me.

824
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 3: As it pertains to me, it's always like anything good

825
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 3: she has to say, it comes with like the but.

826
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 5: You know there's a cast right right, so she can't

827
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 5: she called you know.

828
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 3: We had just we just finished Jimmy Filing and like,

829
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 3: you know, she she was just watching the reruns to

830
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 3: the New Year's Eve show all that. So she caused

831
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 3: me and she talked to me. She's like, you know,

832
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 3: I'm so proud of you. You're doing this, She's doing that.

833
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 3: You're doing that, but like your eyes is just so

834
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 3: baggy now, Like she's like, your face is sinking in.

835
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 3: I think you losing weight. Have you've been eating? I'm like,

836
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 3: what's up?

837
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 5: But that's just her personality.

838
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 3: I think, like if I you know, I think I

839
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 3: get my whole talking thing from her, Like if I'm

840
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 3: ever talking crazy bout somebody else because of my grandma,

841
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 3: straight shooter for sure.

842
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 5: She means she And how does it.

843
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: Feel coming up?

844
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 2: Like, like I said, you have Friday on the album

845
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 2: Proud of Me is the song how is it for you?

846
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:57,959
Speaker 1: Guys?

847
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 2: Just like coming up together from Phil You guys are

848
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 2: both in a great space.

849
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 5: It's really dope.

850
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 3: I met I met Friday at the Meek thing the

851
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 3: ten year anniversary for I think I forgot what it was,

852
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 3: but I met Friday there and we both were just

853
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 3: like at that moment, you just see it like we

854
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 3: both like Young's like I think would be the same age,

855
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 3: like just coming from Philly just you know, like just

856
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 3: a lot of experiences that we both have and at

857
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 3: the same time just you know, it's really just like

858
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 3: when you think about it from Philadelphia, it's.

859
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 5: Like who would have thought, you know what I mean?

860
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 3: Who would have thought? Like I just left Abu Dhabi.

861
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm out there with the you know, in

862
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 3: front of them with Claren doing my little dance, Like

863
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 3: who would have thought I'd be all the way over here?

864
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 3: And like it's like a bunch of they doing security,

865
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 3: got holding hands around me, the guys running up for

866
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 3: the money, for the money, Like it's like all these

867
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 3: things like, yo, who would have thought this would be us?

868
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:50,399
Speaker 3: Like I said, I put that together. Yeah, but it's

869
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 3: it's really it's really been fun to do. It's fun

870
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 3: to watch and fun to do.

871
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 1: Next, Plain Robert X.

872
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 3: Explain that like I was trying to rob some do it.

873
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: Because the girl was like I didn't know you.

874
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 3: No, I had the girl was dealing with she. I

875
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 3: was like I was walking in on her walking out

876
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 3: kind of thing, like she was just leaving a relationship

877
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 3: and I was like catching a tail end of like

878
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 3: oh man, he be called. He was talking dirty, like dann,

879
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 3: you want me to, you want me to, you want

880
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 3: me to do something, you know what I'm saying. So

881
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 3: at the time, I was, you know, I was in

882
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 3: my in my bag. I was just writing records. I

883
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 3: had wrote that record just because I was really like, man,

884
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 3: so I can't do what I want to do. I'm

885
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 3: gonna say what I want.

886
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 5: To do and maybe do it. But yeah, yeah, that

887
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 5: that record was relax.

888
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 2: I think a woman that really cares about you will

889
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 2: be like just relaxed, Like I don't want you doing

890
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 2: anything to jeopardize what you have going did.

891
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 3: Something to him, I ain't gonna.

892
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 5: That song thank you, thank You.

893
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: With somebody to toxic it Like it's a little just

894
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 1: a little That's what I like.

895
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 5: I like a little just a little bit of tclic.

896
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 2: What do you learn about relationships now moving forward now

897
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 2: that you're single in this business?

898
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 3: Like I think, hmm, that's that's actually a good question.

899
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 3: I like, like it's it's really just patience. I'm really

900
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 3: really learning a lot of patients and learning that, Like,

901
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 3: relationships is like a two it's a two person game,

902
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 3: Like you gotta you know, you kind of gotta do

903
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 3: things that uh that that balances them out, and they

904
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 3: got to do things that balance you out. But a

905
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 3: lot of times just like yo, look just you know,

906
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 3: I be trying not to curate everybody life. I be

907
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 3: trying to like let people do they do their thing.

908
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 3: But yeah, like I just I had to learn that patience,

909
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 3: that obedience and just kind of like the tolerance of like,

910
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 3: oh you live and you understanding your what's the thing

911
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 3: that you'll used to That just it just created like

912
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 3: a year ago. Love languages created. It was a buzzword

913
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 3: from like last year or something like that. Everybody got

914
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 3: a love language. English is my love. But but but yeah,

915
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 3: like I like just just understand that other people's love

916
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 3: language and and that's it. I think that those are.

917
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 2: The things because that's the one thing about relationships that

918
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 2: don't work with you get out of it, you should

919
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 2: be a better person. You know, you should have learned

920
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 2: what you do want what you don't want.

921
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 3: So my biggest thing was like for me in a relationship,

922
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 3: what I always wanted to I always wanted to give

923
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 3: somebody to take away its I never wanted somebody to

924
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 3: deal with me relationship, like like emotional relationship or just

925
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 3: like friendships, whatever it is. I think of the highest

926
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 3: form of love is camaraderie. So I try to always

927
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 3: find a friend in somebody. But at the same time,

928
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 3: I want someone to have something to take with them,

929
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,760
Speaker 3: Like if it's like, let me invest in this business

930
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 3: thing that you got going on, let me help you

931
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 3: elevate your career, let me help elevate your life.

932
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 5: In this way, whatever it is. I try to do

933
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 5: that out.

934
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 3: So it's not like if we split up, you know,

935
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 3: you got a little bit of love and some cool

936
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 3: pictures or whatever, some memories. It's like, now you have

937
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 3: a thing that, like, you know, I don't have to

938
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 3: be a part of it anymore, but this is something

939
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 3: that I helped you with whatever it is, Like, I

940
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 3: just want to I always want.

941
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:47,720
Speaker 5: To help people.

942
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 3: I think my really, my last relationship, she wanted a

943
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 3: lot more of like I just want the memories and

944
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 3: those things as opposed to like you pouring into my whatever.

945
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: It is that future.

946
00:37:58,320 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, And so I.

947
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 3: Had to to learn that a little bit, like to

948
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 3: be like, Okay, this isn't this isn't as much of

949
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 3: a priority is as it is to me. But I'll

950
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 3: be just thinking about like, you know, like I'm at

951
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 3: this point in my life and I want everybody to

952
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 3: be like the people I care about. I want everybody

953
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 3: to be really successful.

954
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's great. Set that foundation up.

955
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like. I like because you know, I learned

956
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 3: a lot about myself. I learned I like, get my

957
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 3: feet rope. You know what I'm saying.

958
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 5: I learned a lot of new things about myself.

959
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 2: Well, listen, thank you so much for joining us. We

960
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 2: are going to do a search for a new hairstylist.

961
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, who do you?

962
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 2: Who does my hair? Destiny? My friend Destiny. Her name

963
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 2: is Hare. We've murdered raids.

964
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: Actually she's amazing.

965
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 5: I bring my own bees show. Got worried about it? Like,

966
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 5: yeah yeah with Destiny.

967
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: Yeah no, she can.

968
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 2: She can take care of you back in DC.

969
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 3: Yeah I can't tap them.

970
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: That's too far.

971
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 4: So destiney when sometimes brais my hair's good?

972
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 5: You want stay Destiny like you give her your Stanford.

973
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 3: Destiny If you're listening to this, my way.

974
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 2: But thank you so much, and you guys, make sure

975
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 2: you pick up the EP. Do you know when the

976
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 2: feature length album? When you in your head when you

977
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 2: went that to come.

978
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 3: Out, yes, before the end of the year, like we

979
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 3: were not. There's no shortage of work, there's no stoppage

980
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 3: of work. We just like, you know, right after this,

981
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 3: it's right back to the studio. So we just were

982
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 3: just enjoying our little marathon with like everything that's been

983
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 3: going on, celebrating. But it ain't no stoppage of work

984
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 3: like we just you know, we're still building it. We

985
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 3: already started it.

986
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 2: So yeah, And but the business mind that you have,

987
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,280
Speaker 2: I'm sure it's not just music that you're.

988
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: Going to be doing.

989
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 3: I just did my first little like I think my

990
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 3: first audition, that's.

991
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 5: Like it went through. I think I'm about to be.

992
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 3: You think you got I think I'm about to be

993
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 3: baby schiffing on.

994
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much, money Way, it was a

995
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: pleasure to have you.

996
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 2: We appreciate you, and congratulations, thank you and thank you.

997
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 3: You want to cut looking all beautiful things.

998
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: Oh that's sweet.

999
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 3: That was real sweet of me, right, that was sweet

1000
00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 3: of you.

1001
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna never let me let me down.

1002
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 1: Way up with Angeline, Way up.

1003
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 5: Okay,