1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: The Phillies will win if they can really handle the 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: Mookie Bets, Freddy Freeman Otani Trio. 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:11,120 Speaker 2: If they can't, look out, it could be troublesome. 4 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 3: Hello everybody, and welcome to a brand new episode of 5 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 3: Dodger's Territory. That is Clint Pacis. You know him, you 6 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 3: love him. I'm Alana Rizzo. You probably know me. It 7 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 3: is good to be with you guys. Sorry about last night. 8 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,279 Speaker 3: I had a massive, massive migraine. Scott Broun, I appreciate you, 9 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 3: brother for filling in for me on the post game show. 10 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 3: Clint is always a great job. We are here, we 11 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 3: are ready. It is nice that we don't have to 12 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 3: stress about a third game in the wildcard round. The 13 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 3: same cannot be said for six other teams. But let's 14 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 3: do this. Don't forget guys. By the way, we hit 15 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 3: over eleven thousand subs. Super psyched about that. Thank you 16 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 3: everybody over. We really appreciate you. Tell your friends like us, 17 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 3: subscribe all of the things. Rate us five stars. It 18 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 3: means a lot to us. Also, Dodgers' Territory shop is open. 19 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 3: It is available. Support the show and style. You can 20 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 3: do that by scanning that QR code right there or 21 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 3: go to Dodgers territoryshop dot com. Ruben Amaro Junior is 22 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 3: on the show today. We're excited to have Ruben on. 23 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,279 Speaker 3: Of course, has had every job in the great sport 24 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 3: of baseball. He was the general manager of the Philadelphia 25 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 3: Phillies for quite some time. He's going to be previewing 26 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 3: the NLDS between your Los Angeles Dodgers and the fightings 27 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 3: out of Philadelphia. Let's get to the big ticket, Clint 28 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 3: to see us do it. The Dodgers, Clint did exactly 29 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 3: what they needed to do. WHOA, that's a big face 30 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 3: of Clint, right, you know, large and in color. There 31 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 3: they get it right. We kind of looked at this series, 32 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 3: not to disrespect the Reds by any starts of the imagination, 33 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 3: but if you take the entire field, Clint, the Reds 34 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 3: I think were the weakest link in terms of the 35 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 3: teams that are remaining in the series. I kind of 36 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 3: likened this too. It was almost like a simulated game, 37 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 3: right like practice series is over. Now the big boys 38 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 3: will get to play, and the big boys are the Phillies. 39 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 3: So what did you take away from the two game 40 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 3: sweep of Cincinnati. 41 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 4: I took away that all of the things that we 42 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 4: said leading up into that series were accurate. The Dodgers' 43 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 4: offense is good. The Dodger starting pitching is very good. 44 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 4: The Dodgers' bullpen is going to lead to cirrhosis. 45 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 5: Of the liver. 46 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 4: They did what they're supposed to do. They this is 47 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 4: gonna be kind of the script. I said it to 48 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 4: Scottie Brown last night. I don't know if it's a 49 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 4: good script, and I don't know if it's a script 50 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 4: that works against the Phillies. But if you could score 51 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 4: enough runs points, I said to upset people, because I 52 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 4: love upsetting people by calling him points. But if you 53 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 4: score enough runs to make yourself bullpen proof, you might 54 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 4: be able to survive some series. It's a lot easier 55 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 4: against the Reds than the Phillies. But you know, Dodgers 56 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 4: offense scored eighteen runs. The starting rotation only allowed four runs, 57 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 4: two of those unearned. So I'm calling it an eighteen 58 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 4: to four run differential series because I want to pretend 59 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 4: the eighth inning doesn't exist. 60 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 3: Well, that's just the thing, right, and that is our 61 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 3: biggest problem. You and I were having a conversation in 62 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 3: our production meeting a little bit ago before our show. 63 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 3: To me, Clint, we don't have a closer problem. We 64 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 3: have a bridge problem. It's not the closer, it's the bridge. 65 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 3: And the eighth inning has been an abomination for this club, 66 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 3: and thank god we're putting up you know, ten runs 67 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 3: in one game, eight runs in another game because this bullpen. 68 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 3: I saw it here too. Cole was even saying it 69 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 3: in our chat. What's up, cold, glad you're here basically 70 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 3: taking a shot. Every bullpen walk is killing my liver. 71 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's unbelievable. Bear A Sama, hope you're 72 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 3: feeling better, Alana, thank you. 73 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: Man. 74 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 3: I still have a headache, but it's much better than 75 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 3: it was last night. But yeah, I mean, the bullpen 76 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 3: is giving me a headache and it's lasted a long 77 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 3: time and it's freaking me out. So we need to 78 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 3: address the eighth inning. How does this club do it? 79 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 3: Clint is Roki Sisak. I know he's kind of in 80 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 3: that closing role, but is he the weapon that we 81 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 3: didn't know we needed coming out of that pen? 82 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 5: I think. 83 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to try to not bury the lead 84 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 4: on this. Pretty much like if you have every bit 85 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 4: of a secret weapon, because he has not really been 86 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 4: exposed or over exposed to this league, like you like 87 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 4: to famously say. He hadn't seen him in about sixty 88 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 4: five years, and then all of a sudden he comes 89 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 4: back up for a two game cup of coffee in September, 90 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden you anointed the unofficial 91 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 4: closer for this team. 92 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 5: The dude looked. 93 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 4: Nasty last night, absolutely filthy. I do want to talk 94 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 4: more Rokie in just a little bit. I want to 95 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 4: spotlight Rokie. But beyond that, another dude in that bullpen. 96 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 4: You you mentioned the Bridge getting to the ninth or 97 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 4: really the Bridge getting to twenty seven outs. How about 98 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 4: Blake trying a friend of the show, stepping up big 99 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 4: time when it matters most as you kind of expected. 100 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 4: Of course, he closes out the game on Tuesday and 101 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 4: then gets a big out to escape any or avoid 102 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 4: any further damage for Yamamoto in the seventh inning, to 103 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 4: get Blake back online working the way we anticipate, in 104 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 4: the way Dave Roberts loves to be able to use 105 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 4: and deploy him. 106 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 5: That's that's a massive, massive boost for this team. 107 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 4: Just about you know, I guess sort of the Green 108 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 4: Kids figuring it out. Ammachian struggled and and ed Guardo 109 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 4: Henrica has struggled. Now you get an opportunity to change 110 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 4: your roster heading into this next series, do you pull 111 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 4: that lever and maybe go for Ben Casparius who was 112 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 4: a little more battle tested over Edgardo Henriquez. Now, granted 113 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 4: both of them were on the World Series roster last year, 114 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 4: on the postseason roster last year. 115 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 5: What do you think is sort of a play there 116 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 5: for kind of looking at I like, I like. 117 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 3: I like Casparius his stuff a lot. I think it 118 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 3: really plays in the postseason. Just just I like his 119 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 3: I like his aggress I like the way that he 120 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 3: pounds the zone. I just like his his makeup. I 121 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 3: guess if you will. You and I and Mark are 122 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 3: producer director boss Guy Geyer. We're talking about how we 123 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 3: wish this next series was a seven game series because 124 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 3: I think these are the two best teams in all 125 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 3: of baseball right now. I'm talking about American League, nationally whatever. 126 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 3: So's it's a bummer that you know it's a five 127 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 3: game series. But yeah, I mean, it remains to be 128 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:25,679 Speaker 3: seen what they're. 129 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 5: Going to do. 130 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 3: But I would not be mad if Ben Benny c 131 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 3: was on the the NLDS roster. Let's let's highlight Sasaki 132 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 3: real quick before we welcome in Ruben tomorrow, Junior, because 133 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 3: we have a lot to talk about in terms of 134 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 3: what we might anticipate in this upcoming division series. And 135 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 3: Claty wanted to talk a bit about Sasaki. And this 136 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 3: is a guy again, like I joked, but I really 137 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 3: didn't know what happened to him, Like did they put 138 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 3: him in witness protection? Like was he in the lab forever? 139 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 3: Like did they know this all along? That this is 140 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 3: what they anticipated for him in the twenty twenty five season. 141 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 3: Let's get him right, Let's get him some secondary stuff 142 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 3: and he's going to be a hell of a weapon 143 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 3: out of the bullpen this year and he'll be in 144 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 3: that starting rotation next season. What do you like about him? 145 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 3: What you saw so far in those two outings well. 146 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 4: I mean three now total since coming off the IL. 147 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 4: The thing you like is that he's gone out there 148 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 4: and dominated. He hasn't nibbled. He has straight up dominated, 149 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 4: particularly in this outing last night against the Reds and Alta. 150 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,679 Speaker 4: One of the things we were kind of we discussed 151 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 4: a lot particularly in spring training. This is a two 152 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 4: pitch pitcher. How is he going to make it as 153 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 4: a starter. He needs to develop a third pitch or whatever. 154 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 4: Two pitches plays out of the bullpen, especially one of 155 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 4: them if one of them is an elite splitter, as 156 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 4: we saw with the kid last night. But also the 157 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 4: fastball is playing up, he's got some armside run to it. 158 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 4: I think it was six of his seven fastballs were 159 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 4: clocked over one hundred miles an hour. Kk's soft line 160 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 4: out in there should have been a pop out, but 161 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 4: Ben Rhytfett wanted to get him another opportunity to get 162 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 4: that final k Uh only only one hit allowed over 163 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 4: his three innings, six punch outs, and yeah, the big 164 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 4: question is have the Dodgers found their new postseason closer here? 165 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 5: Uh? 166 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 4: This is this is the thing that's also the most 167 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 4: impressive if you guys are watching and not listening on 168 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 4: the podcast side the tunneling, I mean, the ball is 169 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 4: coming out of the same. 170 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 5: Slot, the same yeah. 171 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, and again you saw the Reds look foolish. The 172 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 4: Reds are nowhere near as good of a team as 173 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 4: the Dodgers are. About the face with the Phillies and 174 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 4: again we'll well, we'll talk to Rubin tomorrow Junior about 175 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 4: that in just a second. But I don't know that 176 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 4: you anoint him the you know, the blessed de facto closer. 177 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 4: I think you deploy him in the biggest moments, in 178 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 4: the biggest spots, against the biggest run of hitters, the 179 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 4: most important run of hitters. 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You can find him on NBC Sports Philadelphia. 219 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 3: He is the co host of the Phillies Show and 220 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 3: just a good dude. Happy to have you, Reuben, Great 221 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 3: to be with you. Almost thus me at mono. Okay, 222 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 3: so this is a glad Yeah, it's good to see 223 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 3: you friends. So this is a very different Phillies team, 224 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 3: a very different Dodgers team than these two teams that 225 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 3: matched up in two thousand and nine. Rubin, you know 226 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 3: this club, the Phillies better than anybody. What is the 227 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 3: Phillies Achilles heel. 228 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 5: Well. 229 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: I think it's it's been obvious over the last few 230 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: years that the swing and miss and the swing out 231 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: of the zone has been something that's really troubled them, 232 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: you know, with runners in scoring position, a couple of 233 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: the things that they struggled. 234 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 2: With during the course of the season. At times and. 235 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: When they're going well, they are making much better swing choices. 236 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: One of the things that they did a lot of 237 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: is prior to the season starting they really try to 238 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 1: work pretty openly and they were about making sure that 239 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: they were making better swing decisions, and so you saw 240 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: that the slug didn't come around till late in the 241 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: season when guys started really letting themselves be a little 242 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: bit more athletic at the plate, and then through the 243 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: middle towards the end of the season they started really 244 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: swinging the bats well as you might expect. I mean, 245 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: Schwarber has been swinging the bat well, was swinging the 246 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: bat well all year long, so was Turner. But the 247 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: other guy as the back part of the lineup really 248 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 1: started swinging it well. I think, so the swing and 249 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: miss and the runners and scorings issue was an issue. 250 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 2: And I think the other thing that I think they 251 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:09,839 Speaker 2: shored up a little. 252 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: Bit was the back end of the road of the bullpen, 253 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: and then obviously getting Joan Duran in the in the 254 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: back end that was big. I'm not sure how much 255 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: or how good they're going to be getting the baseball 256 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: from the starter to Doran. That's the only issue that 257 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: I have with them right now. Stram has had a 258 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: good year. They signed Robertson, which was a great sign. 259 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: I think I think they have to make sure the 260 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 1: guys like strom Man, Tanner, Banks and also Kirkering has 261 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: to sort of step forward. If they don't, then it 262 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: could be a little troublesome and you might see Rob 263 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,079 Speaker 1: Thompson go with some of those starters longer and longer, 264 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: since that's one of their biggest strengths. 265 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 4: We know, A big strength for that ball club is 266 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 4: the lineup, very very deep lineup. Big strength of the 267 00:12:54,760 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 4: Dodgers is that starting rotation. Would you wager to say 268 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 4: that a good game plan for the Phills would be 269 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 4: try to get those starters out early and take care 270 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:06,719 Speaker 4: of that. 271 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 5: Take advantage. We'll say of that. Maybe not as strong 272 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 5: bullpen of the Los Angeles Dodgers is that. 273 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 2: The game I mean, I can't really struggle at the end. 274 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 2: I mean Blake Trinan and Tanner Scott. 275 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: It was pretty clear that those guys that they've been 276 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: counting on have struggled. And it was pretty clear that 277 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: even in the last you know series that they had 278 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: with La out there in Los Angeles, they sort of 279 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 1: took advantage of that. But the starters were really good 280 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: and they threw the ball. 281 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 2: Very well against the Phillies. 282 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: Lots of strikeouts, lots of swing and mess, and there's 283 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 1: no question that they have great stuff. 284 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 2: The key to the Phillies is to make sure and. 285 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 1: Hope that if those guys aren't throwing strikes with their 286 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: breaking stuff, that they can lay off of it long 287 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: enough to get those pitch counts up to get those 288 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: bullpen pieces into the game. 289 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 2: Now. 290 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: I know you guys were talking about Sasaki getting slid 291 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: back into the back end of that bull and that's 292 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: probably big for them. 293 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 2: But it's really important for the Phillies to try to 294 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 2: do what they can. 295 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 1: They can to grind out at Batt's early in the 296 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: game against the Dodgers because you've got to try to 297 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: get into that bullpen. It has been one of the 298 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: achilles heels of the team and you know, you're hopeful 299 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: that you can do that and have some success with it. 300 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 3: Oh, make no mistake about it, The Dolage bullpen is rough, Rubin, 301 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 3: they are rough. Let me ask you about Zach Wheeler. 302 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 3: How much more does Aaron Nola needing to step up 303 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 3: become a bigger issue in the postseason Because the Phillies 304 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 3: were so strong all year long. That obviously Wheeler's a 305 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 3: big void, but it becomes a little bit more magnified 306 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 3: on the rest of the rotation. What do you need 307 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 3: to see from Nola? 308 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, see, here's the thing. I think they're going to go. 309 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: I do believe that they're going to go with three 310 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: starters in the Division Series, and they're going to go 311 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: with three left handers. 312 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 2: I think it's going to be If you, you know. 313 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: Ask me to to fill it out, it would be 314 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: Christopher Sanchez Suarez, and then it. 315 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 2: Would be Lozardo. You probably don't. 316 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: Use Nola until you get to the NLCS. If you 317 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: get to the NLCS, which is not going to be 318 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: a small task against the Dodgers, but you may see Nola, 319 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: and I'm not sure if they haven't made decisions, their 320 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: final decisions on things, you may see Nola be in 321 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: a piggyback or someone gets in trouble early in the game, 322 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: you may see him jump in there. He has never 323 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: really pitched a whole lot out of the bullpen. But 324 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: I think the loss of Zach Wheeler and you hit 325 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: on a big one there. 326 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 2: The loss of Zach Wheeler does a lot of things 327 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 2: for the Phillies. 328 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: Unfortunately, not just losing one of the best pitchers in baseball, 329 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: but you also now have to sort of force other 330 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: guys instead of having them be in the rotation during 331 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: the course of the playoffs. They can't use those pieces 332 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: like in the bullpen when they have an issue. So 333 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: you may have been in a situation where if Zach 334 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: Wheeler is healthy, Zach would be pitching number one, Christopher 335 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: Sanchez number two, maybe Suarez number three, and then you 336 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: have guys like Lozardo with that power arm out of 337 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: the bullpen. Well, you don't have that depth now, and 338 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: so that puts a little bit on the Phillies, and 339 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: it puts the heat on those starting pitchers who have 340 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: had a lot of success to be good, and they're 341 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: gonna have to be good for more than just five 342 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: or six innings to probably go to have to stretch 343 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: it out to seven and maybe at times if they're 344 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: efficient up to eight. 345 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 4: You know, some of the starting issues you got going 346 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 4: on there reminds me of a young upstart twenty twenty 347 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 4: four Dodgers team in the postseason that really just had Yamamoto, 348 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 4: Flaherty and some scrap parts. Walker Buehler hopefully playing a role. 349 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 4: You know, Buttane in October is a different kind of 350 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 4: an animal. Also, Citizens Bank Park a different kind of animal, 351 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,479 Speaker 4: the tenth man there in Philly. What kind of advantage 352 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 4: would you say home field advantage is for the Pills 353 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 4: against the Dodgers as the home team. 354 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, we well, first and foremost, I think the Phillies 355 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: just seem to match up pretty well against the Dodgers. 356 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 2: They they pitched them well over the years, they play 357 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 2: them well. 358 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 1: Now it's a totally different gig when you're talking about 359 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: the playoffs, There's no doubt. But I do believe the 360 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: Citizens Bank Park is one of the toughest places to 361 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: play if you're coming in from out of town. You know, 362 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: a lot of people talk about it being nine innings 363 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: of hell, but you know, it's very loud, it's very raucous. 364 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 2: It's one of those cities where the fans actually. 365 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 1: Believe, and at times do believe, that they can affect 366 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: the baseball game. They can affect the outcome of the 367 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 1: game somehow, some way. And uh and I think that 368 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: the Phillies as a team has sort of embraced that. 369 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: And uh and it's it's a pretty good symbiosis between 370 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: the two of them, so it's not an easy place 371 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: to play. I know the Dodgers have a ton of 372 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 1: veteran guys. They probably won't get too rattled by a 373 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: lot of that you know business. They go about their 374 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: business in a very professional way. I know Mookie Betts, 375 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: I know Freddie Freeman, I know Tani. I know that 376 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: those guys are professionals, and I fully expect them to 377 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: be you know, the season. 378 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 2: Bets that they are. 379 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: But that said, that Citizens Bank Park red October is 380 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:11,360 Speaker 1: is nothing to sneeze at. 381 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 3: It's no joke, it's a blast. The Bank is such 382 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 3: a fun place to play. I know Dodger Stadium will 383 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 3: be loud, but there's just something about Philadelphia that is 384 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 3: it is absolutely intimidating, and covering a postseason game, there's 385 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 3: just it's a trip and a half. Let me ask 386 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 3: you this, put on your general manager hat. Would you 387 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 3: rather Reuben have the buy like the Phillies did in 388 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 3: the first round or would you rather just keep it 389 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 3: keep it going? I mean, I know from a rest perspective, maybe, 390 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 3: but what's your preference? 391 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: I mean, for the Phillies in this particular instance, I 392 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: think it was great that they had the buy just 393 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 1: because one of their most important offensive pieces and defensive 394 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 1: pieces is Trey Turner. It gives him a chance to 395 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: get you know, back and be one hundred percent. Because 396 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: if Trey Turner is only like eighty percent or ninety 397 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: percent with his wheels, that sort of changes the dynamic 398 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 1: of what he brings to the table. He has been 399 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 1: outstayds offensively, he's been phenomenal. Defensively, he's really improved, and 400 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: so they need his legs to be effective. I think 401 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: just in general, my general sense is that I'd like 402 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 1: to have the team continue to play. But here's the reality. 403 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 1: You can get hot. I mean, guys have been hot 404 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: after the All Star break. Guys have been cold, you 405 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 1: know after the All Star break. It really sort of 406 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: depends on the player. I think in this day and age, 407 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: you can do so many different things to. 408 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 2: Try to simulate. I know, they played yesterday on Wednesday. 409 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: They ended up playing, you know, a full intra squad game, 410 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: So I think that was important to see live pitching 411 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: and to get into that rhythm and to have thirty 412 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 1: thousand people there at the bank to you know, to 413 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: cheer them on. 414 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 2: So I as a. 415 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,239 Speaker 1: General in a general sense, I would like to get 416 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 1: for teams to continue to play. But at the end 417 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: of the day, you got to play good baseball when 418 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: it counts. You got to hope the ball rolls the 419 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: right way. You know, he played baseball. And there's a 420 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: lot of luck involved in in the playoffs. I mean, 421 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,239 Speaker 1: people talk about it all the time. Not necessarily the 422 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,719 Speaker 1: best team wins every series. It's the team that happens 423 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: to play the best baseball and gets the timely hitting. 424 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: And that's it in a nutshell, and hopefully for the 425 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 1: Phillies Hoples, you know, it works out for them. 426 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 3: Do you think the DS should be a seven game series? 427 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:26,719 Speaker 2: Wow, that's a great question. 428 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that at some point that may 429 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: be a sticking point for this new bargaining agreement because 430 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: I do think that it gives the teams like this, 431 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 1: And there's arguably if the Phillies and the Dodgers are 432 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 1: the two best. 433 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 2: Teams in baseball, you could sort of. 434 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:48,199 Speaker 1: Sort of think that's the case, and I believe that 435 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: as an evaluator, But and you'd like to have those 436 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: teams hash it out in a longer stretch. You may 437 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: at some point, and this is A tough one for 438 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,479 Speaker 1: the owners is you may shorten have to shorten up 439 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: the season, make it one hundred fifty four games. 440 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 2: They don't like that because the per cast a. 441 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: Right. 442 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 2: We know that, but it's something that they should certainly consider. 443 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 2: And might. 444 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 5: Is did you have another one? I don't know? 445 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 3: Yeah I did. I just I didn't you know. I 446 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 3: could talk to Rubin for seventeen hours straight, So I apologize. 447 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 1: I've probably answered some of the questions with my own 448 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: lengthy answers. 449 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,959 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, OK. So you and I have had 450 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 3: many conversations. But for our viewers and our listeners on 451 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 3: this podcast, they may not have heard this story, and 452 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 3: I want you to share because it involves Dodger fans. Also, 453 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 3: could you please tell us the story that you are 454 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 3: the man that traded Chase Utley away, and you also 455 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 3: are the man that told Charlie Charlie manuel or that 456 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 3: he had that was it for him. But all for 457 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 3: good reason, All for good reason. 458 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, really difficult decisions. 459 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 1: Those probably are are were some of the most difficult. 460 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 1: I mean, Chase is arguably one of my favorite players 461 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: of all time and favorite people that have ever ever 462 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 1: warned the Phillies' uniform, and I really felt like it 463 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: was a time in we were a time and transition. 464 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 2: There was no question that we were not going to 465 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 2: be a very good club for a long time. 466 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 1: I thought that he'd be a great piece to this organization, 467 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: just to keep him there so that he can help 468 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: teach these younger. 469 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 2: Guys as we move forward. But at the end of 470 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 2: the day, I was like, you know what, this is. 471 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 1: Going to be a horrible situation for him, and it's 472 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: going to be a losing situation, And to be frank 473 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 1: with you, I thought it was in the best interest 474 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: of the club and for him to get an. 475 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 2: Opportunity to go to la It was home for him. 476 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: I know that he wanted to stay in Philadelphia, but 477 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: I told him, I said, listen, Andrew Friedman, in that organization, 478 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: they know. 479 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 2: What they're doing. I think you're gonna I think it's 480 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 2: going to be a plus for you. 481 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: And I think he's found out if you probably if 482 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: he asked him now, that he was fairly grateful for that. 483 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 2: I know he would love to have been a for 484 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 2: a long time, but. 485 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 1: He's gonna end up being a really important piece and 486 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:08,360 Speaker 1: has been an important piece for the Los Angeles Dodgers. 487 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 2: He's the consummate professional. 488 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: I love the guy, and that was a tough decision 489 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: as far as Charlie is concerned. 490 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 2: That that was heart wrenching for me. 491 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: Never have I been on a podium and started, you know, 492 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 1: bawling like a child, just because Charlie was one of 493 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: the reasons why I became a Cleveland, Indian way back 494 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: when in ninety four. 495 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 2: He basically helped get me traded over there. That's when 496 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 2: my relationship started with him. 497 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: And then when we brought him over, when Jim Tomy 498 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: came and brought him over as an advisor, Ed Wade 499 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 1: did a heck of a job of really in a 500 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: lot of ways taking a chance on having him be 501 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: the manager. 502 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 2: We took a lot of heat for that, and Ed 503 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 2: took a lot. 504 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: Of heat for it, but he ended up being one 505 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 1: of the best managers they've ever had here and brought 506 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: us a world helped bring us world championship again. 507 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 2: We were through that transition. 508 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 1: I really just did not want Charlie to have to 509 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: deal with, you know, a sixty win team, and that 510 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 1: was a very I just didn't want to have him 511 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: go through that and we ended up making a decision 512 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: to change over to Ryan Sanmdberg at that time. 513 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 2: God bless him, God rest his soul. Ryan. 514 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: You know, I felt like he would be a nice 515 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 1: transitional manager for the organization, but hey, it didn't. 516 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 2: Work out all that great unfortunately. 517 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 1: But Charlie is still in the organization, I think during 518 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 1: doing the same sort of thing that Brian Snicker probably 519 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: going to be doing with the Atlanta Bulli, which is 520 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: very appropriate. Charlie's a great person, great friend, and and 521 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: that was again one of the more difficult decisions to 522 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: have to make. 523 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, from the Dodgers perspective on this one, we very 524 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 4: much appreciate Chase Sudley because. 525 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 2: I can bet that you do. 526 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 4: There's still some of the culture that he brought over 527 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 4: here in that trade, still kind of passing on, passing 528 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 4: down different generations of baseball player. There's instrumental in what 529 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 4: Key Key Hernandez has eventually become. And also being a 530 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 4: postseason weapon. I do have some beef with you being 531 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 4: a part of that nine team that took advantage of 532 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 4: a of an organization that at the start of that 533 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 4: series we hear about the announcement of the Frank McCourt 534 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 4: and Jamie McCourt divorce and you guys had to go 535 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 4: and beat us, and you know, anyways, that's a whole 536 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 4: other story. 537 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 7: Listen, listen, I got I got a very brief you know, 538 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 7: uh talk with Frank mccorty. He could have hired me 539 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 7: and we could have you know, I could have slid 540 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 7: over there, but he decided to go somewhere else with details. 541 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 7: So you know, I got sort of screwed out of 542 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 7: that deal. 543 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 2: Anyway. 544 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, as far as Chase is concerned, I mean, he's 545 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: one of those guys that really does make a huge 546 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,719 Speaker 1: impact on an organization in a lot of different ways. 547 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 1: I always felt like it's so important to have those 548 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: types of players be part of an organization to help 549 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 1: with those transitional moments and uh, and to help people 550 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: in the dugout in the clubhouse and create a culture 551 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: to that you know that that people don't talk about. 552 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 2: There's a lot of people don't talk about the importance 553 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 2: of culture. Well, culture means a lot in that clubhouse. 554 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 1: And and I think that Chases one of those people 555 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: that certainly brings brings that positive culture to an organization. 556 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 4: Absolutely, final one we have for you before we let 557 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 4: you get out of here. The Phillies lose to the 558 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 4: Dodgers in this Division series if and then the counterpoint 559 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 4: to it, they win If. 560 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 1: I think that that, I think that the Phillies will 561 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: win if they they can knock those starters out early, 562 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: as we talked about. 563 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 2: I mean, otherwise, if they if the starters. 564 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 1: Are getting them to swing and miss at the two 565 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: to one and three to one and two to zero 566 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: breaking ball out of the zone and they are fishing 567 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: on it. 568 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,360 Speaker 2: Then it's going to be tough for the Phillies to win. 569 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: And and you know, conversely, I mean it's all about 570 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 1: whether or not the Dodgers can handle. 571 00:26:58,640 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 2: That Phillies pitching. 572 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 1: You know, I think that the Phillies have done generally 573 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: a pretty good job on that front part of that lineup, 574 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: and I know there's some depth in there. 575 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 2: Now. 576 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: I'm not sure as Will Smith going to be able 577 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: to be healthy enough to be able to play. 578 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 2: I'm not even sure. 579 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 5: The expectations he should be around. 580 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, if he's around and playing, then that makes it 581 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: even deeper, right, that makes it even more difficult because 582 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 1: he's had such a great turnaround season. But I mean, 583 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 1: it's all about making sure that the Phillies, that the 584 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 1: Phillies will win if they can really handle the Mookie 585 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: bets Freddie Freeman, Otani Trio. 586 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 2: If they can't, look out, it could be troublesome. 587 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 3: Ruben Tomorrow Junior, always a pleasure getting your insight on 588 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 3: this great game of ours. You can catch Rubin and 589 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 3: his cohorts on the Phillies Show. It's a long time 590 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 3: podcast that they've been doing a great job with for 591 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 3: many many years, and that's right on our Foul Territory 592 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 3: platform as well. Best of luck in this five game DS. 593 00:27:58,160 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 3: We appreciate your time. We'll talk soon. 594 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 2: My friend and I have a little bet there alon 595 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 2: on you and me. We have to figure one out. 596 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 1: You know. 597 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 3: You know what's going to be wine. Whatever it is, 598 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 3: it's going to be wine. So if I would if 599 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 3: we went straight up, if we went straight up, you 600 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 3: wiwe me. If you guys win straight up, I owe you. 601 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 2: You got it, claim nights to see it. Guys, have 602 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 2: a great day, Good luck. Hopefully it goes to five 603 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 2: because that would be cool. 604 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 3: That'd be awesome. Sounds good. We'll talk to you soon, 605 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 3: my friend. Always awesome, you know, getting the other perspective 606 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 3: from the other side, right, I mean, Phillies are a 607 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,199 Speaker 3: good team. They are a very very good team, and 608 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 3: this is going to be a hell of a series. 609 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,360 Speaker 3: But the Dodgers are too. I didn't even get your 610 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 3: your take on show Hey o Tani being officially announced 611 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 3: as the game one starter of the DS How do 612 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 3: you feel about that? 613 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 5: I like it a lot. 614 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 4: I mean, this is a dude who and the way 615 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 4: the series is set up where you have a game 616 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 4: on a day off game on day off, U if 617 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 4: Sho Hay is able to go four or five, six 618 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 4: innings or whatever it is, that the bullpen should still 619 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 4: be able to be set up to cover a lot 620 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 4: of innings for this team. 621 00:28:58,400 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 5: So I think it's the right call. 622 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 4: And then Glass now kind of can be the hopefully 623 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 4: table setter to a two nothing series advantage for the Dodgers. 624 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 4: So you know, Rubin there talking about the Phillies needing 625 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 4: to get creative with their starting rotation really only having 626 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 4: kind of three guys they trust. As we know what, 627 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 4: the Dodgers have four five if you count Kershaw six 628 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 4: if you count emasan they are in a very bountiful 629 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 4: spot when it comes to starting rotation. But in terms 630 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 4: of show, hey, game one. Absolutely give it to me. 631 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 4: And that's a dude who's been on the biggest stages. 632 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 5: He can handle Citizens Bank Park. 633 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 3: No, I love it, and I love the fact that 634 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 3: I just feel so good about our starting depth now, 635 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 3: I really do. I didn't feel that way all year long, 636 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 3: obviously with the injuries and some of the production issues. 637 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 3: I mean, Yama has been amazing all season long, but 638 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 3: obviously with glasnow down, with Snell down, we didn't know 639 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 3: what was happening. With Sasaki, showhy wasn't stretched out. But 640 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 3: I feel great about how good this starting staff is 641 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,959 Speaker 3: and the piggybacking opportunities that can give you length out 642 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 3: of the bullpen. I really like that a lot. And 643 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 3: Dave's bullpen, trust Tree, how do you feel about I mean, 644 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 3: I Alison shaky. Well, he's pushed all the right buttons. 645 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 3: He did last year when this bullpen was better, but 646 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 3: still we were wondering, what, you know, some of the 647 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 3: moves were gonna be. Yeah, it's a little shaky. I 648 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 3: guess a lot of it depends too on who makes 649 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 3: the roster and how you maneuver those parts. It's all 650 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 3: matchup based obviously with the Phillies. 651 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 4: So yeah, you gotta assume there's gonna be some some 652 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 4: changes for this roster. 653 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 5: You're gonna get more pitching back, You're gonna add some lefties. Probable, Definitely. 654 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 4: Clayton Kershaw wouldn't be shocked to see Anthony Bonda back 655 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 4: in that roster with like we were talking about earlier 656 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 4: as well. Also wouldn't be shocked to see, you know, 657 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 4: a Casparius go in for a Henriquez or something like that, 658 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 4: even though like his. 659 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 5: I think his splits were actually reversed this year. I 660 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 5: gotta double check on that. 661 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 4: But the Dodgers are still in a very good spot 662 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 4: in terms of the trust tree. What I like and 663 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 4: what I'm kind of going laying my head, you know, 664 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 4: to bed at night feeling a little bit more confident 665 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 4: about it, is like, hopefully they got the the issues 666 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 4: out of the way, hopefully getting Henriquez, you know, getting 667 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 4: the jitters out of the way, and in his first 668 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 4: time being in a postseason game. Really that mattered in 669 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 4: quite some time, because we talked about it last night 670 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 4: on my other show. He relieved Clayton Kershaw in that 671 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 4: awful start against the Diamondbacks, that nobody wants to remember. 672 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 5: Uh kersh got what won out. So I barely count 673 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 5: that as. 674 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 3: Anything, honestly, like I forgot about it. Probably that. 675 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 5: Never happened. But the Dodgers in a very very good spot. 676 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 4: And I think, you know, some people will question the 677 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 4: idea of Dave pulling the right levers, but she going 678 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 4: to she In in that spot, that was the right 679 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 4: time to do it. That's the reason he's on this 680 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,479 Speaker 4: roster is to be a leverage guy. He told us, 681 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 4: They've told us he's gonna be a leverage guy going 682 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 4: to Vessia. He didn't expect Vessi to not have it, 683 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 4: and and Dave didn't expect Edgardo Henrikaz to not know 684 00:31:59,040 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 4: where the baseball was. 685 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 5: Uh So that's just kind of where they're at. 686 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 4: They still have very very good, very talented players, and 687 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 4: hopefully they use that you know, postseason spring training with 688 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 4: the Reds to iron out those kinks. 689 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 5: That's that's my hope. 690 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean absolutely, I don't know that I could 691 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 3: have said it better myself, it's all, you know. I'm glad. 692 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 3: I'm glad that we can reset. That's another thing too 693 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 3: quickly before we move on to to Lids. I want 694 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 3: to talk about them because they're a new partner here 695 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 3: for us and I'm psych to have them on board. 696 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 3: But that's another thing too. I love about not having 697 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 3: that third game is you get another full day off. 698 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 3: You can completely reset. I know the team we were 699 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 3: gonna have Kiky Hernandez or at least I asked Key 700 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 3: Gay to come on the show today, but they're flying 701 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 3: right now. They're flying to Philly right now, So you 702 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 3: get that extra opportunity to reset, to give guys a 703 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 3: blow to, you know, kind of lay it out the 704 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 3: way that you want it to be in terms of 705 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 3: your staff. So that's that's another benefit too of not 706 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,479 Speaker 3: having to go to three games, you know, like everybody 707 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 3: else and the league is going to have to do. 708 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 3: By the way, I don't know if you guys noticed 709 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 3: my sick lid literally Liz is a new partner for 710 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 3: us here on Dodgers Territory and on they network. 711 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 5: What I got something about that hold on? I want 712 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 5: people to see this, who. 713 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 3: Look at you? 714 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 5: Is that? So I know I got one on the 715 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 5: way that looks that's a that's a sharp hat. 716 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 3: Just stick a look at this. So this is my 717 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 3: this is my nod to obviously Yama Moto for shoving 718 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 3: and Sisaki for shoving. Okay, so it was like the 719 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 3: the Yama to Sasaki thing. Obviously it's the Japanese hat, guys, 720 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 3: at case you're wondering, and the United States hat obviously 721 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 3: such a massive japan influence on the Los Angeles Dodgers 722 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 3: with Shoheo Tani obviy but obviously Yoshiobu Yamamoto and obviously 723 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 3: Rokie Sasaki are three of our our arms from the 724 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 3: wonderful country of Japan. And obviously I just I love 725 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 3: this And by the way, you guys can now get 726 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 3: it too, because lydds is a part of our show. 727 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:08,359 Speaker 3: And you can get twenty percent off by texting two 728 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 3: nine zero one seven. It's right there, text territory obviously 729 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 3: for Foul territory, Dodgers territory, all of the territories. Text 730 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 3: territory to two nine zero one seven you get twenty 731 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 3: percent off your next purchase of any headware or apparel 732 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 3: at any US Lids store. There are some exclusions, but 733 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,399 Speaker 3: I love it because first of all, I just think 734 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 3: this hat is sick, and it's such a global game, 735 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 3: and it's like a. It's a beautiful, beautiful spot. 736 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:39,760 Speaker 4: So representing the Dodgers, you know greatly, with Otani, with Roki, 737 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,240 Speaker 4: with of course Yamamoto, who shoved last night. Lyd's always 738 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,760 Speaker 4: to go to spot for all things MLB hats, Jersey's apparel. 739 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 4: It could also be your go to spot for tops 740 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 4: trading cards guys, including Bowman Chrome, which is now available. 741 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 5: Bowman Chrome is. 742 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 4: The chase for the hottest prospects first card, including autographed cards. 743 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 4: There's a unique inserts latest crop including young rising stars. 744 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,479 Speaker 4: So if you guys have been collecting stuff for years, 745 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 4: obviously I collect a lot of random things. 746 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 5: Cards aren't my bag, but if cards are your bag. 747 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 2: Hey, that's the thing. 748 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 3: If you've been doing it for a long time or 749 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 3: you're just getting started, like, that's the place, right, I mean, 750 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 3: I know some people have been doing it forever and 751 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 3: some people are just kind of getting into the game, 752 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 3: and Liz is the place to do it. So we're 753 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 3: happy that you guys are here, and thank you, Liz. 754 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:24,959 Speaker 3: We appreciate it very much. 755 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:29,320 Speaker 5: What do you say we talk about a doggo? Let's 756 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 5: do it all right? 757 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 3: All right, guys, this is Lulu Bean. She is a 758 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 3: shepherd and we believe border Collie mix. The DNA kid 759 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 3: has been ordered, she has been swabbed, it has been 760 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 3: sent to the lab. Now we are just waiting for 761 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,839 Speaker 3: the results. But this sweet pup was going to be 762 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 3: put down just because she had a cold. Yes, you 763 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 3: heard that right. They were going to kill her because 764 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 3: she had a cold. So she is now on medication 765 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,399 Speaker 3: for an upper respiratory infection that is healing nicely. She's 766 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 3: feeling much better. When she is completely healed, we will 767 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 3: get her to a spa so she can be groomed 768 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 3: and have a bath, and then we're going to make 769 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 3: sure she's healthy enough to get spayed. So we're looking 770 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 3: for donations right now. She's not quite ready to be adopted. 771 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,839 Speaker 3: She wants to heal and we want to make sure 772 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 3: she's spade and she's you know, all of the things. 773 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 3: So please if you can a buck helps, a dollar, two, 774 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:24,240 Speaker 3: a million dollars show Hey, if you want to have decoy, 775 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 3: donate a billion dollars to Guidry's Guardian Foundation, that would 776 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 3: be great. Guidry's Guardian dot org is the place to 777 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 3: do it. We appreciate it very much. All right, I 778 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 3: know you've been hell busy because you directed foul Arts 779 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 3: or a fair territory. Today you're doing this show. Of course, 780 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,760 Speaker 3: you did everything last night with Scott, but you also 781 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 3: have all Dodgers with Clint Pisias. When is that next? 782 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 3: And what are you guys talking about? 783 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,399 Speaker 5: No rest for the wicked or something, or more so 784 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,840 Speaker 5: for the weary, because your boy is definitely drained. I 785 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 5: did get my coffee going in my lovely, lovely worded coach. 786 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 3: Oh peez. 787 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 4: But yeah, we'll be live tonight either eight thirty or nine. Myself, 788 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 4: Jeff Snyder, Kevin Skinner also doing more series preview, Things 789 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 4: to like, things to not like against the Phillies. This 790 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 4: is the matchup, well, this was the matchup we wanted 791 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,839 Speaker 4: because that means the Dodgers are advancing in the postseason. 792 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 4: You gotta be still a little frightened at the Phillies. 793 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 4: Very very good, very very good ball club. And we've 794 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 4: talked a lot about that, and you know, hopefully we 795 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,399 Speaker 4: have a two game advantage before this team comes back home, 796 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 4: before we do sign off. There's something I wanted to 797 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 4: bring up since it is an off day, since we 798 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 4: don't got to worry about baseball, like other idiots have 799 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 4: to worry about baseball today with three game threes going 800 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 4: on for people on the Twitter verse, twitter sphere or whatever. 801 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 5: Back in my day, it was called back in my day. 802 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,399 Speaker 3: I know, I get it, you're almost forty year old. 803 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 3: But it's called X now. That's what the kids are calling. 804 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 5: It way back when. Back in my day we called 805 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 5: it Twitter. 806 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,319 Speaker 4: And there's this thing that's been going on, I think 807 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 4: since twenty nineteen. It's called this is bracket season. For 808 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 4: folk in the know. McKenna here, McKenna Martin. She is 809 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 4: a Dodger fan, rabid Dodgers fan, and every year since 810 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 4: I believe twenty nineteen, she has been doing this thing. 811 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,839 Speaker 4: It's oh, it's eighth apparently I learned how to read 812 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 4: hashtag words. Is a thing called the Hottest Dodger Bracket. 813 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 4: And for people, let me put this up, people who 814 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,240 Speaker 4: love brackets. This is for you. People who love hot dudes. 815 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 4: This is for you. If you think the Dodgers are hot, 816 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 4: I don't know, that's your own prerogative there. The important 817 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 4: thing is there is a raffle and donation component to 818 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 4: this as well. You could just fill it out and 819 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,840 Speaker 4: have fun and raise awareness but October is Domestic Violence 820 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,839 Speaker 4: Awareness a month. As you see on the screen, this 821 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,320 Speaker 4: is in partnership with Peace over Violence. 822 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,800 Speaker 3: Which is awesome. That's a big initiative. Actually, this is huge. 823 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 4: And what's phenomenal about this, and about Dodgers fans in particular, 824 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 4: is that this year they set a it was a 825 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 4: seven thousand dollars col the seven thousand dollars goal, they're 826 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,359 Speaker 4: already at sixty two hundred dollars donated from Dodgers fans, 827 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 4: one hundred and forty donors. I've chipped into that, but 828 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,240 Speaker 4: that would bring the total to over forty thousand dollars 829 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 4: raised for Piece over Violence over the years, which is 830 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 4: just insane. It's wonderful to see how great this Dodgers 831 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 4: community is coming together on something important, which is of 832 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,720 Speaker 4: course the Dodgers being hot and all that kind of stuff, 833 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,839 Speaker 4: but more so Peace over Violence. It started back when 834 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 4: we don't need to talk about Julio Urias, but apparently 835 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 4: I need to talk about Julio Urias a number of 836 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 4: years ago, back when he had his first suspension. But anyways, 837 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 4: and then the Bower thing and all that. But the 838 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 4: important thing is you guys can support it. I'll have 839 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 4: the links in the description, or you can go to 840 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 4: what is it linktree dot com slash McKenna martin nineteen. 841 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 4: I will have all that in the description, and beyond that, 842 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 4: I'll be posting my bracket because I have time. I'll 843 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 4: be posting my official bracket. It might get an upset, 844 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,760 Speaker 4: but I will be posting it on my Twitter today. 845 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 3: So you're gonna choose the hottest Dodgers all the way 846 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 3: to the finish line. 847 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean I'm I'm the guy. I'm obviously 848 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 4: the guy. I'm the most qualified to be doing this. 849 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 3: I can see science, I see. Yeah, yeah, you have 850 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,799 Speaker 3: put the resume of choosing which guys are hot over 851 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 3: to the next guy. I too will choose, and my 852 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 3: hottest guy is the one that comes through with runners 853 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 3: in scoring position the most. That's my hottest Dodger. 854 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 5: Okay, well be happy, well done. 855 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 3: So that's if you want to be on my list. 856 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 3: That's that's the guy. By the way, I will do 857 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,720 Speaker 3: what I did last year. I will donate five hundred 858 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,880 Speaker 3: dollars to their cause. There you have it. 859 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 5: What a guy, What a guy. You are. 860 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 4: Appreciate you, Rizzy, you are the best, the final thing. Uh, 861 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,319 Speaker 4: and I guess if you guys donate, please let us 862 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 4: know somehow. We'll try to find a I'll try to 863 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 4: find a way to send people something. 864 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:47,799 Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't even know if I can 865 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 5: do that, but I will. 866 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,319 Speaker 4: Let's talk one more bit of Dodgers, one more bit 867 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,479 Speaker 4: of NLDS before we signed off. It's a longer show, 868 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,760 Speaker 4: but we're not going to be here for post game Saturday. 869 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:57,920 Speaker 4: I won't be here, by the way. I'm going on 870 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 4: quick vacation, which should guarantee a game and win because 871 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 4: they always win when I can't. So I ask Ruben 872 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 4: tomorrow the Dodgers, Sorry, the Phillies lose. If the Dodgers win. 873 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:08,840 Speaker 5: If. 874 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 3: The Dodgers win, if their starting staff can go deep 875 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 3: into the game, all I'm asking for is six. If 876 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,399 Speaker 3: we can line up seven, eight and nine, I feel good. 877 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 3: I need show Hay, I think show hey can. He's 878 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 3: going to be efficient, He's going to give you six, 879 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,759 Speaker 3: He's not going to give up an earned run, and 880 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 3: the bullpen's going to figure it out. The Dodgers win 881 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,359 Speaker 3: if we can set up our bullpen just the seventh, eighth, 882 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,319 Speaker 3: and ninth. And let me tell you something else. The 883 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,479 Speaker 3: Dodgers also win, and I mean this sincerely. Game one 884 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:45,360 Speaker 3: is massive. Yeah, whoever wins Game one has I know 885 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 3: statistically they do, but I'm just saying for a mental 886 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,840 Speaker 3: approach and like a psyche approach, Game one is massive, 887 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 3: absolutely winning Game one. 888 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 5: You know, I liked Rubin's thought process as well. 889 00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 4: Just you know, take care of the important guys, you know, 890 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 4: the MV three and you might win being show Hey, 891 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 4: Mookie and and Freddy, there's more guys. I wanted to 892 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,839 Speaker 4: do this the final thing will do just highlighting these 893 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,280 Speaker 4: guys in this series. Mookie bets six for nine, three doubles, 894 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,799 Speaker 4: three RBI, Tascar Hernandez four for ten, two Homer six 895 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,360 Speaker 4: RB I Key k Hernandez four for eight in the series, 896 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:17,240 Speaker 4: three runs scored. 897 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 5: And how about some special shout outs to my boy, 898 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 5: little little Ben Rovett with three hits, two runs scored 899 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:31,800 Speaker 5: before and importantly two sacrifice bunts. Let's hear it first, listen. 900 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 4: I love good bunt stuff and Ben Rovett has been phenomena. 901 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:38,320 Speaker 3: I cannot lie. 902 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 4: Micky Row, Mickey Roe stepping in where maybe Tommy Edmund can't, 903 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 4: and three dropping in three hits and five at bats 904 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 4: two runs. 905 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 2: Uh. 906 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 4: The Dodgers are very good baseball team, guys. This is 907 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 4: gonna be a fun series. Treat it as a fun series. 908 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 3: Are way better than the Phillies. Starting pitchers. Dodgers are 909 00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,840 Speaker 3: gonna be fine. If the Dodgers starters can go relatively 910 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:00,400 Speaker 3: deep in the game. This team is going to be 911 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 3: fine because I'm not worried about the Dodgers offense at all. 912 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,840 Speaker 3: So there. Yeah, all right, you guys. I don't know 913 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:06,920 Speaker 3: yet what's happening on Saturday when you to speak to 914 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:11,919 Speaker 3: the boss and find out what's happening. So we'll see 915 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:13,840 Speaker 3: you Saturday or we'll see you Monday. I don't know 916 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 3: what we're doing yet, but go Dodgers. Thanks for being here, guys. 917 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 5: Bye.