1 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to Jay dot M, a production of I Heart Radio. 2 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: Hello everybody, what's up? Peace y'all? This is Jill Scott 3 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 1: with my sister friends, Asa Graydon Danceler. Hello, I'm the 4 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: lovely Lovely Las same. You don't just feel like blessed? 5 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: That calls hard blessed. We're gonna work on it. It 6 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: was hard because it's early here, so it would have 7 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: been really back. And remember back in the dead we 8 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: ACTI screaments from the bathrooms when y'all was performing, it 9 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: sounds came from there. It was friends and there was 10 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 1: a Lulu Lulu as well. Right, that's another tribe, I think. Listen, 11 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: there's a lot of tribes in the Mother Continent. There 12 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: are a lot of tribes. There are a lot of countries. 13 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: There are a lot of weathers. There a lot of 14 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: the amazing reals, a lot of languages, a lot of 15 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: a lot. And today we're gonna find out where we 16 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: come from. Okay, we're gonna find out about us friends, friends. 17 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: This is something that I know a lot of people 18 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: have been interested and curious about for a long time 19 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 1: about who they are. You know, we've got all these 20 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: questions coming from this place and we don't have those opportunities. 21 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: We know our people come from North Carolina, South Carolina. 22 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: But but that's what that's about it. That's as far 23 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: as it goes. But today we're gonna find out where 24 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: us three ladies, well us three women come from, and 25 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: hopefully it will inspire you to want to find out yourself. Yeah, welcome, welcome, 26 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to j dot il the podcast and we are 27 00:01:55,000 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: here with Miss Gina Page, the Queen, the wen, the beauty. 28 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: Yes she does. Eyes are bright, eyes are special as sweet. 29 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 1: We like it. I love. I love that a queen 30 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: is responsible for helping us find our roots, like I 31 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:17,399 Speaker 1: just I love that ancestry. Thank you for the welcome. 32 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: I'm happy to me here. It's not often I get 33 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: to reveal the ancestries of three other queens at the 34 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: same time. So this is exciting. Yeah, it really is. 35 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: And you know, I do want us to make sure 36 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: that we mentioned that we did all this via African ancestry, 37 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: and they have always keep saying Gina, Yes, Gina's company 38 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: African alling. So Gina, please give the listeners like a 39 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: little bit of background on African ancestry and what makes 40 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: them like so special as opposed to some of these 41 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 1: other you know situations. So there are a lot of 42 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: things that make African Ancestry dot com special, UM, that 43 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: make us different, UM, that makes us the best at 44 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: what we do. Uh. The first one is that we're 45 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: guided by the ancestors. Look at our name, African Ancestry, 46 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: So right there off the break, you know that we're special. 47 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: We are black owns, black founded, black funded, We are 48 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: all Our entire scientific team is black scientists, our chaff 49 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: is all black people, and we are in the service 50 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: of black people. So that makes us special, different and 51 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: the best. We exist to help black people transform the 52 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: way we view ourselves and the way we view Africa, 53 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: and we're the only company that does that. We're able 54 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: to do that because we have the largest collection of 55 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: African DNA in the world period, and so we are 56 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: able to give very specific information to black people. You 57 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: already said it. We know we're from North Carolina, we 58 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: know we're from Haiti, we know we're from the d R, 59 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: we know we're from Brazil. But where were we from 60 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: before that? We know it's Africa. That's not the question. 61 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: We started off talking about. How there's you know, thousands 62 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: of everything in Africa, so we're specifically in Africa do 63 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: we come from. That's where African ancestry dot com does. 64 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: And then last, but certainly not least in today's times, 65 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 1: we're the only company that destroys your DNA. So we 66 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: have left a lot of wealth on the table by 67 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: not keeping our customers d N a thank you. We 68 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: don't sell it, we don't share it, we don't we 69 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,239 Speaker 1: don't research it, we don't do any we we figure 70 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: out your ancestry and then it's destroyed. And would you 71 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: basically be one of these only companies that does that. 72 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: We are the only company that does that. So those 73 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: are those are some of the many ways that respected 74 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: in different take that all the way because it's just 75 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 1: so hard for black people, you know, or you know, 76 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: people who could see themselves and be black, to be 77 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: you know, to to feel like we're dealing with people 78 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 1: who have some sort of conscience, that have some sort 79 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: of morality, to have some sort of you know, uh, 80 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: ethical standards, standards as as it pertains to us. So 81 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: rarely do we come in contact with with companies or 82 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: people who have an ability to make money who deal 83 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 1: with us ethically. So that is amazing. And you know, 84 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: even though as amazing as it is, you know, I'm 85 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: not surprised that it comes from the mind of who ladies, 86 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: excuse me, excuse me, a d C black woman. Can 87 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: we talk about you for a second, because I would 88 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: love to know how you became in such super service 89 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: of black people, Like what's your background, where you come from? 90 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: Why you want to do this for us? It's you know, 91 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: that's a great question. And I started. I really just 92 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: fell into it, to be honest. My business partner is 93 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: a renowned geneticist and African American geneticist, Dr Rick Kittles, 94 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 1: who focuses on the genetics of black people. That's his 95 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: life's work. And so my background is business. I have 96 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: a degree in economics, I have an m b A. 97 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,679 Speaker 1: I've worked for Fortune five hundred companies pushing Frozen Pies 98 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: and Sarah Lee and you know, Pamela Dish Liquid at Colgate, Pamala. 99 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 1: But never never was able to really talk to the 100 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 1: people who I think are important. And so when I 101 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: talked when I met Dr Kittles, he had this ability 102 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: to tell people where they were from. But he's a researcher, 103 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: not a business person. So meeting him and making the 104 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: decision to partner to commercialize his research was for me 105 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: the coming together of the skill set that my parents 106 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: and I had invested in for many, many years, the 107 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: talents that I had accumulated over time, to do something 108 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: that has never existed before. So the other thing that 109 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: I didn't mention about us being different is that we're 110 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: the first to do this for black people. In February 111 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: will be nineteen years old as at and so nineteen 112 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: years ago, nobody was checking for black people. There were 113 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: two other companies in the marketplace, and they just oh, 114 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: by the way, you're from Africa. That's what they told you. 115 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: So was it? This is something brand news never existed. 116 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: It's not like a new form of dessert. You know 117 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: how many new desserts are there. You can put a 118 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: brownie in a bite, you can put it right, exactly right, 119 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: But y'all had been at the goddamn brownie or you know, 120 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: we have our music on our phones now used to 121 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: be uh an iPod, and before that was a CD player, 122 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: and before that was but there's no music is a 123 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: new This never existed before February. To my first two 124 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: thousand three, you had no way of knowing which people 125 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: in Africa you come from. So and then I got 126 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: to do it for the people that I'm passionate about. 127 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: So that's my path to African ancestry. I think was 128 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 1: a journey unfolding that I didn't realize what's happening. Beautiful, 129 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 1: so beautiful. You know, the three of us, we've been 130 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: talking about this for weeks. Okay, we've been talking about 131 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: this for weeks, and we're like, what are we gonna 132 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: do if we find out, you know, something we don't 133 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: want to find out. What we're gonna do, Like how 134 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna you know, you know, like me could be 135 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: less black than we think we are. Gina, have you 136 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: had some situations like that where people are like, so listen, nobody, Oh, 137 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: as black folks in the diaspora is a hundred percent African, 138 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: not one of us. Whether you look like Wesley Snipes 139 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: or whether you look like Maria Carey, there's European in 140 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: your family tree. We just don't always know where it 141 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: comes in. We don't know where to find it. And 142 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: so the average black person is about a quarter European. 143 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: We just don't know it. And so, yeah, there are 144 00:09:55,120 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: times the whole all that what is that doing for me? 145 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: Right now? Though I ain't gonna obeate here, like what 146 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: is that doing? I do can't even see it whatever? Yeah, 147 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: and and so you can't see it, you don't know 148 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: about and I'm sure we'll talk about identity. That's you know, 149 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 1: that's a whole conversation too, that's related to this work. 150 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: So my point is is that we have a hundred people. 151 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: Ninety two of them are gonna come back with an 152 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: African result the test, you guys to six of them 153 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: are going to come back with the European result, and 154 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 1: two of them are gonna come back with something that's 155 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: either Native American or Middle Eastern. Those are just those 156 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: are the chances as in the majority, right, No, just okay, 157 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: So let me You want me to tell you exactly 158 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: about the test you took, yes, cattle, hell y, yes, please. 159 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: So you all took the test we call the man 160 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: at your clan test, which means we traced your maternal lineage. 161 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: That means we traced your mother's mother's mother's mother's mother 162 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: all the way back five hundred to two thousand years ago. 163 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: You have two parents, you have four grandparents. We only 164 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: looked at one of those four. We looked at your 165 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: mother's mother's line. You got it. So what we find 166 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: that's what your mother's line is. That doesn't mean that's 167 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: all of what you are, because there's still thousands of 168 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: other branches of your tree. We only look at one. 169 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: But the one we look at has the DNA of 170 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: that four mother that you'll never know her name. M 171 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: You won't know her name, you won't know her contributions 172 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,959 Speaker 1: to the community. You won't know a lot of things 173 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: about her, but you have her DNA in the DNA 174 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: that you have from her. It didn't get it didn't 175 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: mix with anybody else in the family tree. I don't know. 176 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 1: We're gonna thank you. My internal DNA is what full 177 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: every cell in our body, so we don't have to 178 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: know her name. We have her DNA, and she is 179 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: the reason that we are who we are as these women. 180 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: That's what we looked at for you, ladies. We're excited 181 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 1: and and I who's going first? Who's going first? Look like, 182 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: let's just go right? That is that the only kind 183 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: of you said? That's the test. We took what you 184 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: guys provide others, So thank you. I'm sorry you don't know. 185 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, because there's also the paternal side, correct exactly. 186 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: We have another test called the Patrick Clan test, and 187 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: that test traces father to father, to father, to father 188 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: to father or back. But here's the rub. Women can't 189 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: take that test. So men and women can take the 190 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: maternal test, because we all inherited that same DNA from 191 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 1: our mother, and then as mothers, you've passed it to 192 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: your children, whether you have daughters or sons. Right with 193 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: the paternal lineage, we use the Y chromosome, and that 194 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: is only inherited by males, so it's passed from father 195 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: to son, father to son, father to son. So if 196 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: you if as a woman you want to know about 197 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: your paternal line, we need your brother, your father, your uncle, 198 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: some male or not your son, no, because your son 199 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: has his father or his father. So I need to 200 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: call you soon because truth be told, my father's line 201 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: is actually stops. And with my uncle, who is the 202 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: last of the male gradens from my dad's you know, 203 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: in terms of like his family, in terms of who 204 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,839 Speaker 1: came from that mother, right then the same father, the 205 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: same mother and father. My dad has passed. I don't 206 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 1: have any well, I do have one brother, but I 207 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: don't even know how to find him, and my uncle 208 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: is still living, so I have to get him to 209 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: y'all quick. Here's the other thing. So remember I said, 210 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: if we test a hundred people with the maternal test, 211 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: ninety two of them are going to be African, have 212 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: an African result. They're all gonna be African, but have 213 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: an African result. If we test a hundred men and 214 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: look at their paternal line, only sixty to sixty five 215 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: of them are going to have an African result, that 216 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: makes sense, and the rest are gonna have a European without. 217 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: That makes sense because if you think about why we 218 00:14:55,840 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: all have European in us because of right that that 219 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: father line, that paternal line, eventually that becomes right. So 220 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: if I uh, if a British slaveholder father's a son 221 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: with an enslaved let's say an enslaved Nigerian woman, the 222 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: son is gonna be black. He's gonna have black sons 223 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: who have black sons who have black sons. But his 224 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: white chromosome is going to go back to his British father. 225 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: And white men were having brown babies much more often 226 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: than white women were. Okay, well, let me ask you this. 227 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: My father recently passed, but he was adopted, so I'm 228 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: kind of out of luck her. Yeah. Yeah, And a 229 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:00,040 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of black women find themselves in 230 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: a position where they can't trace their put turn online, 231 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: either because they are themselves adopted, or because they don't 232 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: have any relationship with their father's family, or they don't 233 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: know who their father's families are. So you're not alone 234 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: in that um limitation. But you can always look at 235 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: other lines on your mother's side, because your mother has 236 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: a father's mine that makes up part of who you are. 237 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: And so there there are other avenues top house. So 238 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: it's at least like four or five different angles to 239 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: come at this thing. Yeah, the branches of our family 240 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: tree increase exponentially each generation. You go from four grandparents 241 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: to eight great grandparents to sixteen great grades and so 242 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: in theory, you know, as long as there's someone living 243 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: who's on that lineage, you could find out about any 244 00:16:52,760 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: branch of the tree. Wow, DNA is amazing. We'll be 245 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 1: back after the break, Okay. So Layah is literally like her, 246 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: she's bursting, So can we do Laya's first. I'm gonna 247 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: be the pride of my family. I don't even understand, right, like, 248 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: we get this news, we can tell how our cut like, 249 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 1: they ain't even they be like how you know? Like 250 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: I was on my family Zoom a couple of months 251 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 1: ago and told everybody. I was just like, y'all we 252 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:43,199 Speaker 1: found out, and that's nuty I lineage. You guys have 253 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: taken the test and you get to share the exact 254 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 1: same result with so many family members. They don't have 255 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 1: to take it because you've taken it, because they ain't 256 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: the same. Yeah. We got together on my nana's birthday 257 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: and we were all talking about this, and I said, hey, 258 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: y'all have news. I have news. I just wrote down. 259 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: I just wrote down. What is Jill Scott out? Get 260 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: my notes? I didn't even get my notes. Get your 261 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: get your notes, a pistol and paper. Come home, Margaret 262 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: Mires will be so st Clair go first, you can 263 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 1: and St Clair you can go first. Let's find out. Okay, 264 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 1: I'm y'all know, I'm stuck in my corner. I can't 265 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: find okay already, what do you know about your mother's 266 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 1: mother's mother's people? How far back can you go? I 267 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:52,239 Speaker 1: can just go back to my grandmother's mother rose up 268 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 1: pulling who I know on a store and it's from Kentucky. 269 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: But they came to St. Louis And well, that's that's 270 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: a lot. That's more than many people. So we know 271 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: that Mama Rosa was in Kentucky. Yeah, I think, so 272 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: the story is I think we think it's Kentucky. Okay. 273 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 1: So the DNA that you inherited from your mother and 274 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: Mama Rosa and her mother and her mother doesn't start 275 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 1: in Kentucky. It starts on the west coast of Africa. 276 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 1: And um, we found matches for your ancestry in two countries. 277 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 1: The first country is the people from this country are 278 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: rice farmers, and they were taken from this country specifically 279 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: to rice plantations in South Carolina and Georgia, and there 280 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: the culture remained intact. So today you can travel to 281 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: South Carolina and and meet people who practice many elements 282 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 1: of the same culture that you share ancestry with. Exactly. 283 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: So you we found identical matches with your DNA among 284 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: men date people living in Cira Leone today. And what's 285 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: exciting on on a whole another level about that, like 286 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 1: is that Cira Leone is the first country to offer 287 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: citizenship to its descendants based on their DNA results. So 288 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 1: or November twenty one, I'm going with thirty people and 289 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 1: they're going to get citizenship. Remember all the conversations that 290 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: we had about finding another place that there's a there's 291 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 1: another play for everybody, and it may be places, but 292 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: legitimately like yeah, St Clair, you can go to see 293 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: Era leone and get citizenship. Don't always ran different with me, 294 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:25,239 Speaker 1: sever Leon. I'm just saying that is so awesome. Oh so, 295 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 1: and Rice Girl, rice plantations, ma'am, your people are so resilient. 296 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: Expectancy for enslaved people on rice plantations was only about 297 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 1: seven years. It is some of the most dangerous work 298 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 1: in all of plantation work rice plantations. So the fact 299 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: that your people came here specifically for that and they 300 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 1: survived it to make you girl. On my dad on 301 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: my dad's side, my my grandmom and my dad's I 302 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 1: was born in nine hundred, so we fully know that 303 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: she was She was eeechy like she came from Carolinas 304 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: to New York. So it's just shocking that it's the 305 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 1: same thing on my mother's side. And to be honest, 306 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 1: my grandmother was always anti Carolina people. So I'm just 307 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: laughing at her in a way because I'm like, I 308 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 1: was like, grand mommy, we had it. She just wore 309 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: was canna tell you us a grandmama. I can't swept 310 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: people from Carolina, well, well people from Carolina, the other 311 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: country that you share ancestry with. I thought this was 312 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: fitting for you as a producer that helps to tell stories. 313 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: You share ancestry with the Mandinka people living in Senegal today, 314 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: and the Mandinka of course you probably I know, Asia 315 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:52,479 Speaker 1: probably knows this, right are the grios of the culture. 316 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: So they helped to keep the oral history of the 317 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: community and that very aligned with the work that you're 318 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: doing managing and producing all these stories. No accidents, no mistakes, none. 319 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: So welcome to the African ancestry family, Liah, thank you, 320 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: Thank you for having me. Gina, I am Mendy and 321 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: Mendici Mandinka Mandinka Mandinka. I think I got it. This 322 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: is the best part of of what I do by far, 323 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 1: because we don't know you all talked about this. We 324 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: don't know who we are, and there are all these 325 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 1: influences that tell us who we are from the minute 326 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: we come into the world. We come into the world, 327 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 1: somebody's baby girl, somebody's grand baby, someone's little sister, whatever 328 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: it is, right, and then as we move through life, 329 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 1: we have all of these influences that helped to form 330 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 1: and shape our content sently evolving narrative of self. But 331 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: what we don't have is the root. And so when 332 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: you don't have the root, you you just you can 333 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: succumb to whatever people tell you, whatever they want to 334 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 1: make you think you should be and who you should be. 335 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: But when you know where you're come from and you 336 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 1: can get specific to these cultural details, the foods, the music, 337 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 1: the language, the spiritual beliefs, the values. Now, Genial and Gina, 338 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: this is crazy because my braids. For the last twenty years, 339 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 1: I've been going to the same Brave and spot in Largo, Maryland. 340 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: I don't care where I am. And the majority of 341 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: the ladies in there are from Syenegal, and we're always 342 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: talking about Senegal, and I was like, you gotta come 343 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 1: to this country. We're gonna show you all this, and 344 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: I always felt something a little club. I don't know, 345 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: it's just I can't wait to go back to them, 346 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 1: be like guests, like y'all, I know we're family, but 347 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: we really don't think like I think. I'm so excited 348 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 1: like that. I said, no, no, start showing my name, 349 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: but shout out to everybody at Radley's beautiful. Okay, I'm 350 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: sorry Asian. Yeah, I said, I'm I'm I am. This 351 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 1: is so beautiful. Yeah, I want to know me, but 352 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: this this has just been that's that's wow. You look 353 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: different boom, but its aca. Yeah, we're faying out. Yes, yes, baby, 354 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: bring the fan out. We'll be right back. Age, Agia, Agia, 355 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: what do you know about the fabulous women that gave 356 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: rise to you and your lineage? I know that my 357 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: nano is from Virginia and that her mother was from Virginia, 358 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: um specifically Loudon County. And the kind of sad part 359 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 1: about my grandmother's mother was that she was raised by 360 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: a woman who wasn't her biological mother. So when I 361 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: looked for information about her family on my grandmother's grandmother's side, 362 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,880 Speaker 1: it kind of stops because we don't know who her 363 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: mother was. So we know a lot about her father though. 364 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: So that's it. Loudon County, Virginia, Virginia, all right. So 365 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: for you, we traced your maternal lineage and we went 366 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: back five two thousand years and we found your maternal 367 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: ancestry outside of Africa. And when we find ancestry outside 368 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 1: of Africa, we're not able to pinpoint specific countries. And 369 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: that is because African DNA is very heterogeneous. Like if 370 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:09,479 Speaker 1: you line up ten African women, nine of them are 371 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: going to have different DNA signatures. If you line up 372 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: ten European women, only five of them are going to 373 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: be different, and five of them are going to be 374 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: the same. So we can't say if your signature looks 375 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: like this your French, or if your signature looks like 376 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: this your Italian, because it basically all looks the same. 377 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: And so for you, we found your ancestry in what's 378 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,239 Speaker 1: called a European Haplo group, which is really just a 379 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: group of genetic lineages that have a common ancestry. And 380 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: we know that the origin. While the matches found in 381 00:27:53,840 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: Europe today, the origin is believed to be south West Asian. 382 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: Can you see it? Yes, populations migrated over time, so 383 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:15,679 Speaker 1: today that population is found in Europe. Before that it 384 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: was found in Southwest Asia. And then if you go 385 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: back about eighty two, a hundred thousand years ago, it 386 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 1: was found in Africa. But what we're answering is the 387 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 1: question of where were your people before the slave trade? 388 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 1: And so yours were found in Europe and so based 389 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: on your family story, it makes me wonder what the 390 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: story was about your grandmother's grandmother and why she had 391 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: to be raised by someone who wasn't a family member. 392 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: And I wonder if ancestry had something to do with it. Um. 393 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of European blood there that 394 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: I know about because it's heavily documented. So my grandmother's 395 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: father had one European parent, so her father's line is 396 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: heavily documented, her mother's, Like I said, not so much. 397 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: What I think. It's beautiful though about this, even though 398 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: it's not what you wanted to hear. Honestly, I want 399 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: to cry really badly, but I'm not going to. But 400 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: I knew it was gonna be me. That's the funny part. 401 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: That's why I was. I just knew it was gonna 402 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: be me. Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna say this. Let 403 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: me offer this to you, agent Inta. You know, I 404 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: gotta go there. Um. I ended up meeting with the 405 00:29:53,560 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: Basado people and they all look like Asian black people. 406 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: They were very little people, but their facial features, all 407 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: of it just looked very Asian. And they're the last 408 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: tribe in Butuana, if like free tribe you know, to 409 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: be themselves in Butuana, they all look Asian. So I 410 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: just assumed when I looked at them, I was like, Okay, 411 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: this is this is where Asia began because dang I 412 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: mean dang, yeah, true Asiatic and Asian people are I 413 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: mean the way populations migrated. So we go back a 414 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: hundred thousand years or more. Civilization began in East Africa, 415 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: and then there was a migration out of East Africa 416 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: into what we call the Middle East right now. So 417 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: now you had a sub segment of Africans that populated 418 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 1: the Middle East, and then those populations migrated and spread 419 00:30:56,040 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: into Europe and Australia, and then the migration continued across Asia. 420 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: So that's why we see African presence in Asia because 421 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: they are that everybody is a descendant of the original 422 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: African people. But what this means is simply that there 423 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: was a a non African woman are likely European woman 424 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: on your maternal line. It is not a testament to 425 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: anything else about you except for that she was there. 426 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: It is a woman always up in our ship, sucking 427 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: it up. I'm sorry, No, it's just about just knowing. 428 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: Now you don't know and because and and and no 429 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: slight to white folk. But because y'all ship ain't specific, 430 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: I still don't know well our ship the gena. How 431 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: could Asia continue her journey since it's not an African 432 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: root of place? Like? What what would you say she 433 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: could do to find out more about what? Well? On 434 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: that same line, I think it's going to be pretty difficult. 435 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: The only we will actually in your results information A 436 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: just share with you some more information about this Haflow 437 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 1: group UM, so that you can see more than what 438 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: I've said here on the broadcast. The only thing other 439 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: thing that I could think about, and it's not something 440 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 1: that I think you'd be excited about them, is taking 441 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: a test where you can compare your DNA to the 442 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: DNA of other people, and then you'd be looking for 443 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: genetic matches among people living today. Two, perhaps fill in 444 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: some genealogy blanks based on your genetics. So for example, 445 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: if you my mother did this, she was looking for 446 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: her grandmother information about her grandmother, so she found other 447 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: people who shared my mother's genetics, and they were able 448 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: to give information that they knew about the family to 449 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: help my mother piece together a picture of her grandmother. 450 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: But that requires UM putting your DNA into a system 451 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: that you have no control over. So I'm not suggesting 452 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 1: that you do that necessarily. I'm just telling you that 453 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: that would be an avenue that yeah, I mean, I 454 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: think mostly it's just about for me. I don't think 455 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: I would do that, but it's just about kind of 456 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 1: accepting the kind of UM. And it's like you said, 457 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: this is not necessarily something doesn't happen to people, but 458 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: just the whole idea that you have to again accept 459 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: the not knowing and that you know, having the possibility 460 00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 1: of knowing and then the not knowing again is a 461 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: little bit painful. But what I can help you now 462 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: you talked about your your uncle, and so what we 463 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,760 Speaker 1: can do is we can send a metro clan test, 464 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: the same test that you took to your uncle, and 465 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: then he would trace your paternal grandmother's line and again 466 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,760 Speaker 1: there's a nine chance that that lineage will be found 467 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,800 Speaker 1: in Africa. So I'm happy to do that as another 468 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: opportunity to explore your African well thank you. That makes 469 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:43,919 Speaker 1: me feel happy. But just for all your people that's 470 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: listening out there, For any haters out there, I'm still black. 471 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:53,720 Speaker 1: Don't play with me in the streets. Do not even 472 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: think about hitting me on these socials and talk slot 473 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,359 Speaker 1: out the side of your mouth, because I'm black as 474 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 1: black as black could be. I don't give a shoot 475 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: what that test say, about what that tests say. And 476 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,280 Speaker 1: may God blast the white woman that jumped into my line, 477 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: you know, may God bless her because it has she 478 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: not done it. You know, hey, we still we still 479 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,240 Speaker 1: thank God for for whoever is there, whoever survived, whoever 480 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: did would need it to be done. And also honor 481 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 1: and respect to the woman who raised my great grandmother 482 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 1: and um, you know, and took good care of her 483 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: so that she could survive and so that we could 484 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 1: all be so more conversation after the break. Now I'm scared. 485 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm skirted. Okay, So don't I just say, 486 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,280 Speaker 1: God damn, why they got to be the ha blow group? 487 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 1: That just sounds like the raggedy side group of the 488 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 1: hat blows. Really, Okay, I'm sorry I had to throw 489 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 1: that out there. I'm sorry. I'm still I'm still here. 490 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: I'm still healing. I'm sorry. Go ahead, Jill, go ahead. 491 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:37,399 Speaker 1: Oh boy, you ready missed Jill. So tell me what 492 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: you know about your mother's mother's mother's people. The only 493 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 1: thing that I know is that they were in Rocky Mount, 494 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:52,359 Speaker 1: North Carolina, and that they were sharecroppers before it. And 495 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 1: I know that you've at least been to one African country, 496 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: but have you traveled to any other countries on the continent? 497 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 1: Just too okay? And when you were it was Botswana 498 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: and what was the other one? South Africa? Okay? And 499 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: so when you were there, did you have experiences Like 500 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 1: so many people have told me that people thought, oh, 501 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,399 Speaker 1: you have to be here. They saw you know, they say, 502 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 1: you look like my cousin, you look like my Yeah. 503 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 1: I saw a lot of people that look like my 504 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 1: people like look like my aunt Shirley. I was like, 505 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 1: oh my god, you got lips just like myne Shirley. 506 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,439 Speaker 1: Because there was a different kind of skin on the lip, 507 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,479 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, It was a different skin 508 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 1: on the lip. I was like, dang, I thought that 509 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 1: was just unique to her. We we are definitely a 510 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 1: unique people in our features and our beauty. And we 511 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 1: found your maternal genetic ancestry and one of the smallest 512 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 1: present day countries in Africa. So I want to be 513 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 1: clear that everyone understands that we are aware that these 514 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:03,840 Speaker 1: country borders are artificially and politically drawn, and what we're 515 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 1: doing is telling you the present day country and people 516 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 1: that you share ancestry with. So the country that you 517 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 1: share ancestry with today is tiny. It's on the west 518 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 1: coast of Africa. You know, it was one of the 519 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 1: only countries that speaks or it is one of the 520 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:33,360 Speaker 1: only countries where Portuguese is a major language. Mhm, it 521 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:39,320 Speaker 1: was there you go. The country is called Guinea Bissau. 522 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,800 Speaker 1: Heard of it, and Guinea Bissau is bordered by Guinea, 523 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: it's bordered by Senegal. And the people of Guinea Bissau 524 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,840 Speaker 1: what somebody you may be familiar with, Actually I'm in 525 00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 1: car Cabral. He was an activist and he was very 526 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 1: instrumental in Guinea Bissau fighting for its independence. So he's 527 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 1: a well known figure freedom fighter from Guinea Bissau. The 528 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:16,399 Speaker 1: people that you share ancestry with in Guinea Bissau are 529 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 1: called the Jola people, and the Jola are found even 530 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:26,799 Speaker 1: more in Senegal and the Gambia than they are in 531 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,840 Speaker 1: Guinea Bissau, So you have a wide expanse of people 532 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,879 Speaker 1: even though the ones that you match with specifically live 533 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 1: in Guinea Bissau today and um, the Jola women. I 534 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 1: did a little research on the Jola women and one 535 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,839 Speaker 1: of the things I learned about them is that they 536 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 1: have these work songs, which are often considered to be 537 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 1: story songs that they sing while they're working. They're very short, 538 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: very concise. They might just be two lines, and each 539 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 1: type of woman, like the married women, they sing together 540 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 1: and they have their stories. It might be about you know, 541 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 1: cheating or gossip. And then the single women they have 542 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,239 Speaker 1: their types of stories that they talk about. But the 543 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:25,319 Speaker 1: stories that they tell are uniquely tied. I've been using 544 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,759 Speaker 1: that word a lot today. Um are specifically tied to 545 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:33,240 Speaker 1: their identities. And after I saw that, honestly, I didn't 546 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 1: do any more research because I was like, this speaks 547 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,320 Speaker 1: to me, as you know, someone who's followed your gifts 548 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 1: uh for for a very long time. The joe La 549 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:51,360 Speaker 1: also have an instrument that is has its origins in 550 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 1: their community, which is called the accounting, and the accounting 551 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 1: is is like a loot. It's a string instrument that 552 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 1: has a like a rounded base and then it had 553 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 1: be a S S and then it has strings coming 554 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:10,279 Speaker 1: up and they play it um like a loot. While 555 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 1: the accounting gave rise to all the music we have today, right, 556 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:21,320 Speaker 1: it gave rise to the banjo, which you know, gave 557 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 1: rise to the blues and jazz and R and B 558 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,320 Speaker 1: and hip hop. And I think that all of that 559 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 1: musical journey is found in again, how I'm I'm saying 560 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,439 Speaker 1: all this through my lens um, but how I view 561 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:48,360 Speaker 1: your work. I'm flabbergasted. I am lambergasted. The band or 562 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 1: my many bands over the years, we've been talking about 563 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 1: what is it that I play when I sing? Like 564 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 1: I played, I used my fingers to play something when 565 00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,799 Speaker 1: I sing, and I've always done it from the very 566 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 1: big in and it never really understood what what it was. 567 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,399 Speaker 1: Some people, you know, they would say, oh, it's a harp, 568 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,480 Speaker 1: and some people so sometimes it's a guitar. Sometimes it's 569 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 1: something this, this or that. But it's always something that 570 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,880 Speaker 1: I do with my with my fingers I do, and 571 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,320 Speaker 1: I never I thought I got it from like Joe Crocker. 572 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,840 Speaker 1: You know, if you watching in perform. You know, I 573 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 1: just never like, you know, I hold my mouth the 574 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,879 Speaker 1: way I hold my mouth because of Rochelle Farrell. Once 575 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 1: I saw her, she had to she had to get 576 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 1: the note out by any means necessary. She would hold 577 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 1: her mouth in a way and I was like, that's 578 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 1: what you got to do, you know, and and that 579 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,759 Speaker 1: I get that from her. But I never understood the 580 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 1: finger thing. And I can't wait to look up what 581 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:50,400 Speaker 1: it's called. Contina A K O T I N G. 582 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 1: I'm interested to see it and how it's played. I'm 583 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,440 Speaker 1: gonna send you your team on link um. We did 584 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 1: a revere a key tap from a child called Quest 585 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 1: and his ancestry was Jola, and they brought in an 586 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:10,440 Speaker 1: ac content musician and he plays a little bit during 587 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,799 Speaker 1: the video. So I'll make sure that you post. I'll 588 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,880 Speaker 1: put that link in here so that you can see that, 589 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,760 Speaker 1: just as a step. So he's one of your cousin. 590 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:27,080 Speaker 1: What's one of your cousins? And I forgot about your cousins? Layah, 591 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 1: it's uh, You've got people. Chadwick Boseman. We traced to 592 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 1: Sierra Leone, Louis Gossip Jr. We've traded Piarra Leone, Ague Ellis, 593 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:47,719 Speaker 1: we've traced to Sierra Leone correct Dr Maya Angelou, So 594 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 1: you've got some pretty powerful cousins too, and they're amazing 595 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,760 Speaker 1: story All those people you named, even in their acting, 596 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 1: their amazing stories. And I have to have blows. I'm 597 00:43:58,120 --> 00:43:59,840 Speaker 1: just I don't know what to do about this, Gina. 598 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:01,880 Speaker 1: I know this is about the first time that this 599 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 1: has happened. What do I do for my sister? I 600 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 1: don't Yes, well we we, I mean, we mean to 601 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:16,799 Speaker 1: anybody out, I'm bummed. I'm I'm absolutely bummed. But it's 602 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,719 Speaker 1: all good any hill. But Guinea Bassal is so dope 603 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 1: because I'm one of my first African dance teachers was 604 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,080 Speaker 1: from Geinta Bassal and he taught us quite a few 605 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:30,000 Speaker 1: dances from that from that particular region. And I think 606 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,319 Speaker 1: it's and that was my first concept of understanding how 607 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,560 Speaker 1: different ethnic groups can be even when they live really 608 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,880 Speaker 1: close to each other. And I remember when we talked 609 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,799 Speaker 1: about a while back, talked about Black Panther and was 610 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,439 Speaker 1: talking to I tell about one of my favorite parts 611 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 1: of Black Panthers, this point where they go and they 612 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 1: they try to give him the flower after they realized 613 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:53,440 Speaker 1: that he's not completely dead. And the brother from the 614 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 1: you know that the brother that runs the tribe that's 615 00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 1: up in the mountains, he takes the white guy and 616 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,680 Speaker 1: he said, you know, turn around. You don't get to 617 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,040 Speaker 1: look at this, and neither do I. They both turn around, 618 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,480 Speaker 1: and I thought that's really interesting because it's like, this 619 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,680 Speaker 1: is also not my culture either. I'm a kinda and 620 00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,440 Speaker 1: that that they are Wakondon and so they have to 621 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,399 Speaker 1: do their their rituals themselves. And one of the things 622 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,239 Speaker 1: I learned about Gimme b Sal is that the ethnic 623 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,080 Speaker 1: groups is such a small place, but that the ethnic 624 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,759 Speaker 1: groups are very specific, and so dances that are done 625 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,480 Speaker 1: in certain parts are not done in places that are 626 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,080 Speaker 1: walking distance away. And so that gave me a really 627 00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,840 Speaker 1: great kind of insight on just how vast and different 628 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,719 Speaker 1: and beautiful and specific Africa is. So yeah, I will 629 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:41,200 Speaker 1: be calling my uncle, butch Yeah, we're just gonna keep 630 00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 1: testing until we can get African linears. That's my commitment 631 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:50,120 Speaker 1: to you. Aga. Oh thank you. You know what, it's 632 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,919 Speaker 1: got to find it, that's all I mean. It's I mean, 633 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:57,760 Speaker 1: look at men. I think it's just so poetic that 634 00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,880 Speaker 1: that you such a student of that continent. It's just 635 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,719 Speaker 1: did I would love to know. I feel like anybody 636 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:07,040 Speaker 1: you know what wants to know that, and you know, 637 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 1: and I don't even want to make this emotional or anything, 638 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:14,320 Speaker 1: but it's too late. I've already been crying. It's so 639 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:20,319 Speaker 1: hard to be reminded of what was taken. Mm hm. 640 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:26,000 Speaker 1: But that's that's what I'm feeling a little bit of 641 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:30,399 Speaker 1: anger about what's what's been taking. And I don't even 642 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,759 Speaker 1: know the story had we not been here in the 643 00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:41,080 Speaker 1: first damn place. But it is what it is, you 644 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,480 Speaker 1: being such a student at his continent, you teaching at 645 00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,440 Speaker 1: least teaching me and Jail every day every day, and 646 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 1: you're running running into this. It's kind of like it's 647 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:54,960 Speaker 1: a test. I'm currently reading um the Frederick Douglas Narrative 648 00:46:55,040 --> 00:47:04,400 Speaker 1: with my kids, and and it is it's such a 649 00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:11,040 Speaker 1: necessary piece of work, you know. And when you think 650 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:16,759 Speaker 1: about reading something from a firsthand account, you read your 651 00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:18,400 Speaker 1: history book or you read something stiff. But when you 652 00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,439 Speaker 1: read the words of a person who watched the thing, 653 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,520 Speaker 1: and witnessed the thing, and heard a thing and smelled 654 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:28,640 Speaker 1: a thing, you know, it makes you honor and understand 655 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:34,600 Speaker 1: these people, and so those are my thoughts on that. Anyway, 656 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:39,919 Speaker 1: I'm really excited though, sending you big hugs. Friends. You're 657 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:43,440 Speaker 1: far from me, and I love you, and I'm so 658 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,800 Speaker 1: proud of you. And thank you so much for educating 659 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:53,080 Speaker 1: us and entertainment entertaining on a regular basis. Thank you 660 00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,480 Speaker 1: so much. That now that we've got we've got some 661 00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,200 Speaker 1: other homework to do, you know, in the in the 662 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:03,920 Speaker 1: quest of find out more about who we are. You know, 663 00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:09,000 Speaker 1: there's just this is something that everyone can do, you know, 664 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:14,560 Speaker 1: within within listening ears. You can go to African ancestry 665 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:19,080 Speaker 1: dot com to be specific, truly specific about where your 666 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:24,400 Speaker 1: bloodline comes from, your maternal bloodline in this case, I 667 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,200 Speaker 1: I can't wait. I'm excited to share this with my mother. 668 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,759 Speaker 1: I don't know what that's gonna mean to her, but 669 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:35,359 Speaker 1: it it gives me some research to do, you know. Yeah, 670 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:40,080 Speaker 1: I'm very excited about this accounting instrument. I want to 671 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:44,560 Speaker 1: see what that thing is. You need one for your house? 672 00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,799 Speaker 1: I do. What are some of the interesting things that 673 00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,239 Speaker 1: people have done with their results, like after you told them, 674 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:54,359 Speaker 1: like what's happened? People do lots of different things. Some 675 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,360 Speaker 1: people use it as a way to educate themselves and 676 00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,600 Speaker 1: their kids. Right, a lot of kids it's have to 677 00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:04,720 Speaker 1: celebrate ancestry Day at school or bring in a dish 678 00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:08,839 Speaker 1: that represents their heritage. And so having this kind of information, 679 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:13,680 Speaker 1: uh provides a grounding for people. Some people have written music, 680 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:18,239 Speaker 1: they've written books, they've written plays. There are people who 681 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:23,600 Speaker 1: have started becoming politically active. They've lobby Congress on behalf 682 00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:27,160 Speaker 1: of the country that they share ancestry with. They start businesses, 683 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 1: they start philanthropic organizations, they they start giving to organizations 684 00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:40,520 Speaker 1: in the country. They travel, they get citizenship. There's so 685 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:46,680 Speaker 1: many different reasons why people are exploring this identity, and 686 00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,960 Speaker 1: they're equally as many ways that they use the information. 687 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,800 Speaker 1: For some people, they've done a lot of genealogy research 688 00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,600 Speaker 1: and then, like most black people, they've hit a brick 689 00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,560 Speaker 1: wall and so this bridge is the gap and helps 690 00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:04,040 Speaker 1: to put that route on their family tree. So that 691 00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,840 Speaker 1: those are the types of things that people do. So 692 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:11,600 Speaker 1: I'm excited to see what you all do with your information. Uh. 693 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,200 Speaker 1: It sounds like you might be. It might be coming 694 00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:17,279 Speaker 1: with us on the next citizens to ship trip to 695 00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,720 Speaker 1: uh CE. Oh my god, wait a minute, I didn't 696 00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:25,080 Speaker 1: mention your your cousins, your most obvious cousin quest lo. 697 00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:40,640 Speaker 1: We traced to the mendate that that that's it, that 698 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:50,719 Speaker 1: right there, that yep ye and thank you. I'm late. 699 00:50:52,840 --> 00:51:05,000 Speaker 1: There is something that is something at Clair. Oh my god. 700 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:09,720 Speaker 1: Mayor won't even believe it. He'd be like, that's exactly 701 00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:23,319 Speaker 1: what I thought. She'd say. I love it. That and 702 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:27,160 Speaker 1: the Jola are in Senegal as well, So maybe you 703 00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,560 Speaker 1: guys are gonna take a group trip to Sanegal and 704 00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,920 Speaker 1: you can you can learn about the Mandinka and Njola. 705 00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,560 Speaker 1: Listen that, and we still said we're gonna look Asia, 706 00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,920 Speaker 1: We're going to Ghana. I don't care where you from 707 00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,799 Speaker 1: because we have to organize a trip because I'm going back. 708 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,200 Speaker 1: I've only been to South Africa, but we were going 709 00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,640 Speaker 1: back because I just wanna I mean, I love traveling, 710 00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,759 Speaker 1: but I just would love to spend a little bit 711 00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,680 Speaker 1: more time on the continent in general, because it's just, 712 00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:57,400 Speaker 1: you know, I feel like, again, there is just such 713 00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:01,560 Speaker 1: a distance and we just need to spend more time 714 00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,200 Speaker 1: in all the different spaces. You know, we get to 715 00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,399 Speaker 1: go to one place and it feels like you can 716 00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,000 Speaker 1: want to get that feeling back again. You want to 717 00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,920 Speaker 1: learn more, you want to not you know, you grow 718 00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:17,399 Speaker 1: up with this blanket Africa, this this you know, I'm 719 00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:23,040 Speaker 1: going to all it's it's blanket and it's also it's 720 00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:28,319 Speaker 1: also tainted what Africa is for for most of us. 721 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:34,160 Speaker 1: We already know romanticize like this. You know, it's always 722 00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:38,560 Speaker 1: this this, you know, very polarized view of a place 723 00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:42,080 Speaker 1: and and it's people. But the motivation of knowing that 724 00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:45,239 Speaker 1: you're connected and specifically knowing you're connected can can only 725 00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:49,080 Speaker 1: really increase the you know, the passion around learning because 726 00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:52,560 Speaker 1: learning is just everything. I feel like there's African ancestors. 727 00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:56,040 Speaker 1: We got a whole other business and trips to the continent. Truly, 728 00:52:56,560 --> 00:53:00,279 Speaker 1: we definitely do so. Once you now that you're part 729 00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,399 Speaker 1: of the African Ancestry family, we have an online community 730 00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,640 Speaker 1: that's specific just to people who've taken our tests, where 731 00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:11,120 Speaker 1: people are sharing all kinds of resources. And yes there 732 00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,640 Speaker 1: are there are plenty of people on there who are 733 00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:17,359 Speaker 1: Haplow Group H and you and M and in all 734 00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,360 Speaker 1: the different letters. Oh women, I'm Haplow group. What what 735 00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:27,520 Speaker 1: letter H? Yes? Oh lord. And then we also have 736 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:31,400 Speaker 1: African Ancestry Family reunions, so that I'm gonna get some 737 00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:36,560 Speaker 1: T shirts. I'm gonna get some T shirts'sa haplo group 738 00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:42,640 Speaker 1: h on the front. Y'all listen, Hey, it's gonna have 739 00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,480 Speaker 1: to be. It's gonna be because I'm gonna ride it 740 00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:55,600 Speaker 1: out till I find um. And it's funny because I 741 00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,279 Speaker 1: knew I said, this type of ship writes itself like 742 00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,439 Speaker 1: I don't know if you've listened to of the other 743 00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:04,040 Speaker 1: episodes of the show, like I'm black and he black, black, 744 00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:07,279 Speaker 1: black and black hear me and I knew it. I 745 00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,400 Speaker 1: knew it. I said it's gonna be me and literally 746 00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,640 Speaker 1: I called it in my mind. I said, I just 747 00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:19,640 Speaker 1: have a freaking feeling that I'm white. I just I'm 748 00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:27,520 Speaker 1: feeling I'm white. My husband's gonna tear me up. I 749 00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:29,680 Speaker 1: just want you to know my husband, like, see, that's 750 00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:31,759 Speaker 1: why you're so quick to call to police back in 751 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:35,600 Speaker 1: the day, and thought it was because it's because you're white. 752 00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,480 Speaker 1: My husband is gonna have a ball with this. I 753 00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,040 Speaker 1: just need you' all to understand, he's just gonna have 754 00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:47,759 Speaker 1: a very good time with this one. Oh boy. And 755 00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,200 Speaker 1: then in moments when you lease six that he gonna 756 00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,160 Speaker 1: hit you with the heat he gonna hit it. He's 757 00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,200 Speaker 1: gonna hit me with it. He's gonna hit me with it. 758 00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:59,320 Speaker 1: If the food is not quite right, if if something 759 00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,480 Speaker 1: I punish you, if it's just not quite enough, salting 760 00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:05,360 Speaker 1: some ship, he gonna hit me with it. I know 761 00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:09,520 Speaker 1: I'm ready, I'm ready, and I'm thick skinned. But I'm 762 00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:11,920 Speaker 1: find to get my uncle on the phone tonight. Gina. 763 00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:16,799 Speaker 1: Let's get these cell phone numbers exchanged, because we find 764 00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:22,879 Speaker 1: to be best friends until I find out you find 765 00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:26,520 Speaker 1: out your Africa. You gotta drop me agent, Oh baby, no, 766 00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:30,080 Speaker 1: because LE tell you you my DC sister child. First. 767 00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:31,800 Speaker 1: I was trying to hook up with you this Friday 768 00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:35,000 Speaker 1: because I'm gonna be down there. But yes, I just 769 00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,280 Speaker 1: want to do everything to promote your worth though, because 770 00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:43,480 Speaker 1: what you're doing is just everything. And I want to 771 00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:46,520 Speaker 1: be clear to everybody because this was a painful experience 772 00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:49,960 Speaker 1: for me on some level, I'm grateful to have experienced it. 773 00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,680 Speaker 1: I'm grateful to know. I'm grateful to have at least 774 00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,959 Speaker 1: this opportunity to continue to find out because I think 775 00:55:56,080 --> 00:56:00,279 Speaker 1: just understanding how genetics works and it's it's signed ends 776 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:03,560 Speaker 1: and its history, it's all these things wrapped up into one, 777 00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,360 Speaker 1: and so I just love it. I love the idea 778 00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:09,799 Speaker 1: of you having all of these black scientists and you know, 779 00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,800 Speaker 1: being so specific with this information. I mean, some of 780 00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:14,839 Speaker 1: the things I heard today about the other ladies, it's 781 00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:18,759 Speaker 1: just inspiring. Thank you, Thank you, and we you know, 782 00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,160 Speaker 1: we don't take this lightly. So as you were crying, 783 00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:25,120 Speaker 1: I was crying because it's a collective, it's a spirit. 784 00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,680 Speaker 1: But we do this work in service of black people, 785 00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,279 Speaker 1: and there are a lot of black people that work 786 00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:33,759 Speaker 1: with us behind the scenes to make it happen. So 787 00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:38,239 Speaker 1: I appreciate that you all wanted to do this. You know, 788 00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:41,759 Speaker 1: so many other people are satisfied with this finding out 789 00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:46,080 Speaker 1: that there's some percentage of this or that based on 790 00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,640 Speaker 1: you know, a little bit of African DNA. But you 791 00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:54,359 Speaker 1: all understand the importance of the work, and so thank you. 792 00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,400 Speaker 1: And I want to tell our listeners too, though you 793 00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,360 Speaker 1: are an extension of our Sisters Circle, continue folks to 794 00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:01,880 Speaker 1: utilize Sister Circle. We would not know Gina if it 795 00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:05,080 Speaker 1: wasn't for my six great Mamma Kalita Stoates. So I'm 796 00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:08,200 Speaker 1: just saying we are all just degrees apart to find 797 00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:11,320 Speaker 1: the answers that we need. Thank you so much, Gina Page, 798 00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:24,360 Speaker 1: bless you, thank you. This has been life changing. Man. Man. Yeah, So, 799 00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:27,080 Speaker 1: if if you're out here and you wanna, you know, 800 00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:31,320 Speaker 1: find out more about yourself, this is this is a 801 00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:34,480 Speaker 1: beautiful option. It's it's a great place to begin your 802 00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:39,600 Speaker 1: study learning more about yourself. African Ancestry dot Com ladies 803 00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:44,840 Speaker 1: and gentlemen, get involved and get into it. Thank you 804 00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:49,600 Speaker 1: so much for listening. It is uh oh, I feel 805 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,960 Speaker 1: like somebody has snatched my my, my face off. How 806 00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,560 Speaker 1: about I know age you feel the same, just kind 807 00:57:55,560 --> 00:58:02,760 Speaker 1: of snatched and yeah, yeah, yeah, wow yeah, I mean 808 00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:07,880 Speaker 1: this this feels like an addiction, like what what more 809 00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:11,640 Speaker 1: can we find out about ourselves? I would you know, 810 00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,280 Speaker 1: I'm looking for my my superpowers, as many of my 811 00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:18,840 Speaker 1: superpowers as I could find and use for the greater good, 812 00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:23,000 Speaker 1: you know. To then amen, I'm in, I'm in. I'm 813 00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,240 Speaker 1: just glad we started right like we started right, we 814 00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,920 Speaker 1: started this journey right, you know what I mean, with 815 00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:34,200 Speaker 1: our folks, with our sister that's right now. African Ancestry 816 00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,840 Speaker 1: dot Com ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much, miss 817 00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:40,840 Speaker 1: beautiful Queen Gina Page. Thank you so much for sharing 818 00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:44,800 Speaker 1: your time and giving us this information. I'm excited to 819 00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,600 Speaker 1: see what we do with it. Thank you for having 820 00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:53,400 Speaker 1: me pleasure, honor and keep going sisters. So proud of 821 00:58:53,400 --> 00:59:18,080 Speaker 1: you who lessons everybody. This has been JA dot Ilga podcast. Hi. 822 00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:20,960 Speaker 1: If you have comments on something we said in this 823 00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:25,400 Speaker 1: episode called eight six six, Hey Jill, if you want 824 00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:29,160 Speaker 1: to add to this conversation, that's eight six six nine 825 00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:32,280 Speaker 1: five four five five. 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