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Jason Timpf hoops tonight, who works about as 25 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: hard as anybody in this business. And I want to 26 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: start with Jason Tatum. So there's two reasons why a 27 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: normally good shooter doesn't shoot well. One his legs, he's tired. 28 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: That happens you go on a five games, eight day 29 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: Eastern road trip. You know you're an older player, back 30 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: to backs, so you lose your legs. The only other 31 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: way a good shooter shoots poorly usually is you lose 32 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: your confidence. We've seen Lebron, especially early in mid career, 33 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: like just lose his confidence in the three point shot. 34 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: He acknowledg that. Then he would say, okay, how about 35 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: to go score at the basket for about two games, 36 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: and then he would build it back up. Jason Tatum's 37 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: lost his jump shot, and I think it's and I 38 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: think what it is, it really is it defines who 39 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 1: he is. It's one thing that he didn't play in 40 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: one of the games. And I can get into that 41 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: in a second. But I believe the Celtics traded Marcus 42 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: Smart because their problem was Okay, It's one thing that 43 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: Tatum is slightly more skilled than Jason Jalen Brown. If 44 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: Jalen Brown takes over late in games, he's still a 45 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: great player. But when Marcus Smart also started taking the 46 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: ball out of his hands late, then it was a timeout. 47 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: This isn't gonna work, and they got him out of town. 48 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: They got a more talented player with the same skill 49 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: set defensively, Drew Holliday, who more understands his role he's 50 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: got in the bag. You know, it's a different player, 51 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: different mindset. And I think Brad Stevens has told us 52 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: time and time again the truth about Jason him. 53 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 2: He loves him. 54 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,959 Speaker 1: He's smart, he works hard, he's collaborative. But in big 55 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: spots against great players or playing with great players, he 56 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: can kind of lose his confidence. And when I watch 57 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: him against Aalsunani, I'm like, where's what's going on? And 58 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: I don't think it's mechanics, Jason. I think it's a 59 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: confidence thing, and we're going to have to acknowledge this 60 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: is a little bit of who he is from time 61 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: to time. 62 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it goes deeper than the Drew Holiday thing. It 63 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 3: even extends to Porzingis because like the reality is is 64 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 3: those moves are aggressive in the sense that there is 65 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 3: actually some fallout. It's not just the draft compensation, although 66 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 3: they actually made out pretty well in terms of asset 67 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 3: usage in those deals, but it's a lot of it 68 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 3: has to do with the second apron. Like you, by 69 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 3: virtue of bringing those two guys in and making it 70 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 3: so that you have five thirty plus million dollar players 71 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 3: on your roster, you limit your ability to be flexible 72 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 3: in the future. And we talked a lot after the 73 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 3: twenty twenty two series about whether or not it is 74 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 3: one of those things where the Celtics could bank on 75 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 3: Tatum and Brown just improving naturally as time progressed, or 76 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 3: if there was a certain ceiling there and they needed 77 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 3: to be more aggressive. And to your point, I think 78 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 3: Brad Stevens has made that pretty clear with the moves 79 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 3: that he's made. He understands that Tatum is what he 80 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 3: is and that he does need a large amount of support. 81 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 3: And to Tatum's credit, I do think he's kind of 82 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 3: the perfect collaborative superstar because if you're playing on a 83 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 3: team that has that kind of talent, you don't want 84 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 3: a dude who's gonna hijack things and play super helio centric. 85 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 2: You want a ball mover. 86 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 3: And I do actually think there is something a little 87 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 3: bit mechanical going on with Tatum. I don't know if 88 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 3: it's from how much muscle he's put on that he's 89 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 3: just a little tight, or if he's tinkering with his 90 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 3: mechanics now because he's been missing, but his shot just 91 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 3: it looks like it has a little bit of a 92 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 3: hitch in it, like right is he's starting to gather. 93 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 3: And that is a little funky to me because this 94 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 3: extends beyond the Tmuosa stuff. As you mentioned, he's struggling 95 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 3: with Tmosa person Energy's oo for eleven on jump shots 96 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 3: in the x Phibition Games and the Olympic Games so 97 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 3: far with Team USA. But he took one hundred and 98 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 3: eighty eight jump shots in the playoffs and got just 99 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty one points out of them. That's 100 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 3: zero point eight points per shot, which is not good. 101 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 3: Anything below one point is bad, and he's well below 102 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 3: one point in a large sample side. So we're in 103 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:22,119 Speaker 3: a extended span here of Tatum really struggling to shoot 104 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 3: the basketball. And like, there's two ways to look at that. 105 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 3: You could take a glass half full and be like, hey, 106 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 3: what if he figures it out this summer and then 107 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 3: we have the Celtics from last year plus Tatum shooting 108 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 3: the ball, Well, that's scary, right. But the other side 109 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 3: of it is if this is something, if this is 110 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 3: one of those things where it's an indicator of him 111 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 3: at this physical build struggling to shoot the basketball, it's 112 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 3: going to make it really difficult for him to impact 113 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 3: winning at the level of the top five players in 114 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 3: the league because when you go up into that group, 115 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 3: when you look at Shay, when you look at Luca, like, 116 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 3: the shooting at that position is incredibly valuable unless you're Yannis, 117 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 3: unless you're Jokic, and as physically gifted as Tatum is, 118 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 3: he's not like those guys. And so I'm just concerned 119 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 3: for him from the standpoint of, like, he needs to 120 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 3: be a good jump shooter to be a legitimate superstar 121 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 3: level player. 122 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: So let's talk Embiid who you know, when he comes 123 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: into the league, there was a sign early first couple 124 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: of years, can't play it unhealthy. So it's like, uh, oh, 125 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: Biggs get hurt early. Biggs usually get hurt often, So 126 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: he's always had an injury history, but most bigs eventually 127 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: do right, like almost all of them. 128 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 2: Y'aw ming shack. 129 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: You can just Greg odin sam BOUI couldn't get on 130 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 1: the floor, like it's the position. People probably aren't built 131 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: to last at seven to two, you know, or shack 132 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 1: size with those feet back. It wears out, like I 133 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 1: get it. But Embiid presents something else beyond the injuries, 134 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: and because he is more dynamic and more fun to 135 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: watch than Jokic or a Yiannis, and there was a 136 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: shack component with better ball handling skills. There is also 137 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: something that I find my eyes keep telling me this 138 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 1: when I watch the Sixers. Is that And the Olympics 139 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: just heightened this is that they can keep running coaches 140 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 1: through Philly and teammates through Philly. I mean even Ben 141 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 1: Simmons for a while he wasn an All Star like 142 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:14,239 Speaker 1: his first year right, like Ben did have promise that, yeah, 143 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: Embiid really needs to stay close from the basket. So 144 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: coaches kind of pushed a D out for a couple 145 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: of years. It was like fashionable and ad didn't even 146 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: good shooting from out there. A D said I want 147 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: to go back, and he has been for two years. 148 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 2: A monster. 149 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: I mean, to me, the most underrated player in the 150 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: Olympics and the league right now is Ad. 151 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 2: He is just fun. 152 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: Turn the sound down, watch you can't if he's on 153 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: the floor. It's like Lebron, you can't take your eyes 154 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: off him. 155 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 2: He's dominant. 156 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: Embiid to me, somebody has to just acknowledge fella. Get 157 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: away from the perimeter. He fashions himself or is told 158 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: that he is such an important part sometimes a perimeter basketball. 159 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: He's big, he's aging, he's not as quick. I thought 160 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: he literally got in the way of this offense. I'd 161 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: seen it in Philly, but it was so profound with 162 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: this team. It bothered me. I'm screaming at the TV, 163 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: get him out of the game. Your thoughts on Embiid 164 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: and are any of these valid? That I watch him offensively. 165 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: I know the numbers probably say is great, but he 166 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: can he stops I just feel like he can stop 167 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: offenses too often. 168 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 2: So it's both. 169 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 3: It's the jump shot and it's the ball movement piece 170 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 3: the jump shot piece. This has been a consistent story 171 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 3: and Embiad's career, especially over the previous couple of years. 172 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 3: This last year, he actually shot the ball okay against 173 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 3: the Knicks, But like in the previous couple of seasons, 174 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 3: he would shoot like fifty percent on these like mid 175 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 3: range pull up jump shots in the regular season, but 176 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 3: then he'd get in front of Al Horford and he 177 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 3: couldn't make them like he would he would struggle to 178 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 3: knock him down in the postseas. That was a consistent 179 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 3: theme and be you to get to the postseason, his 180 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 3: jump shot would go away. And one of the biggest 181 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 3: things that he ever built out the way Jokic did 182 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 3: is those short range shots, the hooks, the floaters, all 183 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 3: that stuff that's within like exactly, and those are way 184 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 3: more dependable in this kind of setting. The second piece 185 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 3: of it is learning how to play basketball with other people. 186 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 3: This is a this is an epidemic around the league 187 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 3: with certain guys, and we see this. It's kind of 188 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 3: like this with Luca a little bit with more of 189 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 3: a perimeter sense, but we see it with him need 190 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 3: where it's like as long as everything is flowing through 191 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 3: him and he's deciding every single possession, he has this 192 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 3: otherworldly value as almost like. 193 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 2: A force of nature. 194 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 3: So for instance, if you took ad or Bam and 195 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 3: you put them on last year's Sixers team with Tyrese Maxi. 196 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 3: They're not as good because you can't just give the 197 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 3: ball to Ad and Bam like every single possession and 198 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 3: ask them to determine outcomes. They're not good enough on 199 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 3: the offensive end of the floor. But when you're actually 200 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 3: playing with people other good basketball players, and this will 201 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 3: be really interesting this year with Paul George now in 202 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 3: the equation when you actually need to keep everybody in 203 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 3: rhythm and there's ball in player movement, and Be for 204 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 3: lack of a better term, sucks at that style of basketball. 205 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 3: He doesn't know how to play quick decision making flowing 206 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 3: from side to side, and especially at the center position 207 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 3: in modern NBA basketball, when you play five out, the 208 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 3: center is the bridge between the two sides of the floor. 209 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 3: He's the guy who has to catch and turn and 210 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 3: go to the other guard and flow on the other side. 211 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 3: So when you're trying to keep Booker and Steph and 212 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,839 Speaker 3: Lebron and all these guys in rhythm at the same time, 213 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 3: it's better to have a guy like Ad who his 214 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 3: entire life has been a screen and roll big. He's 215 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 3: going to pitch the ball to the other side, set 216 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 3: a screen, roll hard to the rim, run up and 217 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 3: down the floor, and transition. It's a foot speed thing. 218 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 3: It's a decision making thing. You put him in this 219 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 3: setting and it's just a completely different kind of basketball 220 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 3: than what he was doing for the Sixers last year. 221 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 3: And it's quite frankly, he has years of needing to 222 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 3: learn how to play that style if he's ever going 223 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 3: to play in more of a five out, read and 224 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:57,959 Speaker 3: react type of system. 225 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: So during COPA, team you I say struggled, and I 226 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 1: not to make an excuse or defend Greg Berholt or 227 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: the coach at the time, but our style is more European. 228 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: We have more players now soccer players in America playing 229 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: in Europe and flourishing. So COPA is a smaller, shorter field. 230 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: It didn't play to our space, our strength, which is 231 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: speed and spacing. So as we've become more skilled and 232 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:28,079 Speaker 1: more European, which is the Goldwyn World Cup, COPA has 233 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 1: become a bad tournament for US, which is a grittier, 234 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: lower ranked teams, more physical soccer. Similarly, Steph with FEBA 235 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: three point shooting is almost it plays with your head, 236 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: it's closer, it's more physical you don't get the whistle. 237 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: More physicality allowed. And as I watched Steph struggle, it's 238 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: not like Tatum struggling, It's not a confidence issue. It's 239 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: a is it possible that FIBA Olympic basketball isn't really 240 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,319 Speaker 1: it's not really built necessarily for Steph all the time. 241 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: I mean, Lebron's good everywhere, But as Steff struggles, I'm 242 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: how do I reconcile that he's a great shooter? It's 243 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: closer he should be shooting the lights out he's not. 244 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 3: Why So Sudan in particular, and I think their reputation 245 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 3: obviously that them as an organization within FIBA don't have 246 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 3: the reputation of the other great European teams or South 247 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 3: American teams that we faced over the years, Like even 248 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 3: back in the old days when it was like Argentina, 249 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 3: you know that that was or France that was given 250 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 3: his issues, they don't have that history. But I think 251 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 3: South Sudan is the most athletic team in this field 252 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 3: by far, Like they have just an enormous amount of 253 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 3: fast dudes with really long wingspans. They're athletic by NBA standards, 254 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 3: let alone by the Phoebe standards. And so if you 255 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 3: remember last year when Golden State needed to get some 256 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 3: big wins down the stretch of the season, the two 257 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 3: teams that were giving them a lot of trouble were 258 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 3: Sacramento and New Orleans, two teams that were really fast 259 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 3: and really long on the perimeter. And that's like kind 260 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 3: of one of those things. Whereas Steph has aged, he's 261 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 3: become a little bit susceptible to specific types of matchups, 262 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 3: particularly teams that are closing those gaps on him. And 263 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 3: then the piece you mentioned about spacing is real, like 264 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 3: the lack of a defensive three seconds is a real 265 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 3: thing that people are factoring in. So to put it simply, 266 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 3: the vast majority of teams, when they're spacing, will put 267 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 3: their big man on the opposite block from where the 268 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 3: ball is. And so with defensive three seconds, that defender 269 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 3: has to step in and out of the lane on 270 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 3: the far end of the court, whereas in FIBA he 271 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 3: can park his ass right underneath the basket and he 272 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 3: doesn't have to move at all whatsoever. And so this, 273 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 3: by the way, is why I'm far more concerned about 274 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 3: teams like Germany and France or even Serbia against USA 275 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 3: than a team like Canada who just doesn't have the 276 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 3: bigs to deal with USA underneath the basket. Teams that 277 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 3: can park big bodies under the rim can force you 278 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 3: to make jump shots. And as soon as you force 279 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 3: a team to make jump shots, they can go cold. 280 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 3: They can have issues, which is what happening in South 281 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 3: Sudan last time. But yeah, as far as Steph goes 282 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 3: like he, I mean, we let's put it. Let's put 283 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 3: it straight up, Colin. He struggled most of the tail 284 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 3: end of the season last year too, So this is 285 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 3: an extension of that. And I'm really hoping as a 286 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,839 Speaker 3: basketball fan that this is just a blip and he's 287 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 3: going to figure it out, because I really want the 288 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 3: Warriors to be interesting next year. 289 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 290 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: You know, when you have a bunch of kids, I 291 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: have six in my life, the early years can be 292 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: frustrating and a lot of work. But what's fascinating about 293 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: the early years is kids make giants social and emotional 294 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: and physical leaps in nine months. I mean, my son 295 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: had a biting stage, he had a coughing stage where 296 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: he would make coughing noises, and I always told my wife, 297 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, it's just just nine year old boys go 298 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: through weird, weird you know cycle phases. 299 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, they just do. 300 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: Like and I want to use that as as sort 301 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: of a pivot to watching young NBA players, is that 302 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: when they're eighteen, nineteen twenty, the players just come back 303 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: of an off and off season and you're like, damn, 304 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: he got a jumper. So I'm watching Wemby and I 305 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: feel like I'm watching a kid grow, Like I'm watching 306 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: him in some of these games and I'm like, oh, 307 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: this is terrifying for the league. Like he you go 308 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: to his first month in the league and now Jason offensively, 309 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: he plays with so much more confidence. Defensively, he's blocking 310 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: stuff with his elbow. He is now way more aggressive 311 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: and asserting himself. And I'm watching this and I'm like 312 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: I said by the Trade Deadline. I said this on 313 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: our previous podcast, By the Trade Deadline, he and Ann 314 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: will be the faces of the league. I'm not sure 315 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: it's going to take that long. Like Jokich is still 316 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: the best player. His ability to not only dominate but 317 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: compliment other players and elevate them it kind of separates 318 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: Lebron's magic. 319 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 2: Certain guys. 320 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: I would say Michael didn't make everybody better, not every 321 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: teammate Lebron, Magic Jokic, Chris Paul, every teammate's better. You 322 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: play her best with him, get Chris ball with Wemby. 323 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: But I'm watching him, and maybe it's maybe I don't 324 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: see him as much as you do. I'm seeing major 325 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: jumps from Wemby even in these Olympics. 326 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 3: No. Absolutely, they've been running a lot more offense through 327 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 3: him than you would expect. And a big part of 328 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 3: that is France doesn't have an amazing guard corps like 329 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 3: Evan Fournier is their best guard, a guy who couldn't 330 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 3: crack the rotation for the Knicks last year, right, so like, 331 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 3: but what they're doing in a lot of cases is 332 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 3: they're feeding him at the elbow and they're like running 333 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 3: literally ball screens like the way you would typically with 334 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 3: a point guard in a center. They're running with him 335 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 3: and Gobaer at the foul line, and they're letting him 336 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 3: determine the outcome of possessions. They're throwing it to him 337 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 3: down on the blocks. He's become a lot quicker at 338 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 3: like reading the floor and making reads then I would 339 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 3: expect a player at his age. And part of this 340 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 3: I think has a lot to do with him playing 341 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 3: professionally as opposed to coming up through the college system. 342 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 3: Like he's just been around a lot of really smart 343 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 3: basketball minds in his development. The big ones that stands 344 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 3: out is the dude is just a savage competitor and 345 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 3: is not scared of the moment. Like he was kind 346 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 3: of on the back burner for a good portion of 347 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 3: that second half against Japan, and then it went to 348 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 3: ot and he just took over. Immediately was demanding the 349 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 3: ball in the block, got an and one, he missed 350 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 3: a three on the right wing, and then immediately called 351 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 3: for the ball back and knocked one down at the 352 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 3: top of the key. He's got like just incredible scoring 353 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 3: polish all over the floor. He's handling physicality really really well. 354 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 3: Obviously you mentioned the defensive stuff. It's hard to even describe. 355 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 3: It doesn't even look like other NBA players that have 356 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 3: come before him. 357 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 2: I'm with you. 358 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 3: I think I think we got to think long and 359 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 3: hard about him being a top ten player right now, 360 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 3: right now, and then and right now, and I think 361 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 3: by the deadline next year, we could be talking about 362 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 3: a guy who's who's second team All NBA, Like This 363 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 3: is a real, a real potential outcome for him in 364 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 3: the short term. 365 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: Now for a segment called making It Look Easy, brought 366 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: to you by Morgan and Morgan, America's largest injury law firm, 367 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: BAM Gonna Buy You Team USA made it look easy. 368 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: Couple of corner threes, eighteen point seven rebounds over the 369 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: win against South Sudan at the Olympics in Paris. 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But what's interesting is that Nick Wright said 385 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: this to me today on the show in FS one. 386 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: He said, deep down, Lebron may realize these are the 387 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 1: last games of his career that people are really gonna watch, 388 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: like have a huge audience and are gonna matter and listen. 389 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 1: You and I have been critical of the executive wing 390 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 1: of the Lakers. Ad and Lebron on any given game 391 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: that I've watched, Team USA are the two best players 392 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,959 Speaker 1: and they're struggling to win a playoff game. It's really frustrating. 393 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: There's Jeremy Grant may come to town. 394 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 2: He would be. 395 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: A solid three, a better a four on a really 396 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: really good team. He's probably a four, not a three. 397 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 1: But be that as it may. But I as I 398 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: watched Lebron, what it tells me is he's not having 399 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: to fight to be the alpha. He is so respected 400 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,239 Speaker 1: that other young players are like, hey, big fella, you 401 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: run the offense. I mean, I mean like Magic and 402 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: Michael when they went together, they were fighting. They Magic 403 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: didn't want to give up the baton. Michael grabbed it 404 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: like even Ant all these guys, it's like, no, no, 405 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: this is Lebron's. This is Lebron's world. And I know 406 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 1: you're not surprised by it, but it it does jump 407 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: out of the TV, does it not. 408 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 3: I'm glad everyone's seeing it too. First of all, to 409 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 3: what Nick said, I agree. I think Lebron has always 410 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 3: been very aware of the narrative surrounding him, and I 411 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 3: think that he saw an opportunity here to be like, 412 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 3: if I am the best player on Team USA, it 413 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 3: will resonate with people for a long time. And for 414 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 3: the record, I think Lebron came right out of the 415 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 3: season and started prepping forward. He looks like he's in 416 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 3: great shape. 417 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 2: He is flexing every other time down the floor. 418 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 3: I know, like he's he clearly prepped for this as 419 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 3: though it was an NBA playoff run. Like that is 420 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 3: abundantly clear. And he's and he's playing at that crazy 421 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 3: high level. I'm glad you mentioned the Lakers because like 422 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 3: so many people are like, oh, they're they're a playing team. 423 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 3: They're this, they're that, and it's like, guys, the reason 424 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 3: they're a playing team is they don't have a single 425 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 3: player on the roster other than Lebron and Ad who 426 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 3: can play both ends of the floor. That's literally why 427 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 3: they've struggled. It is a personnel issue. It is not 428 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 3: a Lebron James and Anthony Davis issue. Those two pull 429 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 3: their weight. They pulled their weight in a major way 430 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 3: last season, and the organization is what let them down. 431 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 3: And so I don't really see it that way. As 432 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 3: far as as far as Lebron with his team USA context, 433 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 3: what's been super fascinating from a basketball perspective is what 434 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 3: you're seeing is what it would look like to run 435 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 3: five out offense with all the ball and player movements, 436 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 3: Steph lying off of screens with the best playmaker of 437 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 3: this era kind of orchestrating it at the top of 438 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,719 Speaker 3: the key. He's not taking a ton of shots. He's 439 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,719 Speaker 3: seeing his openings and he's shooting the gap and he's 440 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 3: attacking the basket. But they're ducking under all those picks 441 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 3: at the top of the key. He's not jacking up 442 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 3: threes and hijacking possessions. He's just reading the floor as 443 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 3: Steph is running around and as Devin Booker's running around 444 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 3: and waiting for guys to make mistakes. One of the 445 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 3: most classic decisions that you'll see from that part of 446 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 3: the floor is Steph runs off a screen and the 447 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 3: guy screens for him. If those defenders make a mistake, 448 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 3: that guy can slip it, and Lebron is just making 449 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 3: reads based on what the mistake the defense has made. 450 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 3: And so it's kind of like a juiced up version 451 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 3: of Draymond with the Warriors, but surrounded by all of these, 452 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 3: you know, world class types of players, and it's been 453 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 3: the perfect role for him. And then, quite frankly to 454 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 3: your point, and this is where it gets really scary, Colin, 455 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 3: I would argue KAD and Lebron and Steph have been 456 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 3: the only consistent offensive forces on this team, and we've 457 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:53,719 Speaker 3: been disappointed by Jason Tatum. Anthony Edwards has given us 458 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 3: some mixed results. There's been good games, there's been bad games. 459 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 3: I think it's just a bad look that if you're 460 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 3: in the year twenty twenty four, Steph, Lebron and KD 461 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 3: are playing the way they are and the younger generation 462 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 3: is struggling to keep up. It's like, thank god for 463 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 3: Ad and Band being as good as they've been, because 464 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 3: it's just been It's been a disappointing performance from some 465 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 3: of the younger American players. 466 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it has. 467 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: And I let me just say this again, is that 468 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: I do a segment every week called Colin Wright Colin Wrong. 469 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: And I wish somebody in politics did it because I 470 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 1: don't think being right should be the be all end all. 471 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 2: Of being a host. 472 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: Being interesting and informative and being fun should And I 473 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: was so anti ad when we started doing this podcast together. 474 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: I went, like two years, I'm like, it's a dad bod. 475 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: He doesn't work out, he's out of shape, he never 476 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 1: plays hurt. And some of that was confirmation biased because 477 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: I had said I had heard that going in, and 478 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: he became it. The last two years he is aft. 479 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: Take Jokichow. I'm not sure there's a big eye take 480 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: over him, including Jannis. I. I mean, I always use 481 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: this rule. There are time when you turn the sound 482 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 1: down of a game when and I'll use Magic Johnson 483 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: when more than Michael, when Magic was on the floor, 484 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: he had the ball so much unmistakable, you can literally just. 485 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 2: Go, Magic's there. Magic's there. 486 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: Magic literally was a six to nine point and then 487 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: Lebron comes in and he kind of plays points. So 488 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 1: the point guard you always kind of knows on the floor, 489 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 1: but a lot of times forwards, especially guys who aren't 490 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 1: aesthetically beautiful games, you cannot mistake Anthony Davis in a 491 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: game dominant defender. He's gotten significantly more physical. 492 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 2: To me, I don't know what. 493 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: Happened, but he was almost This is weird. He was 494 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 1: a rugged finesse player, like you'd be like run over people. 495 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:43,479 Speaker 2: Dude. 496 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, but when I watch him, 497 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 1: he goes after people. He attacks players. Now, some of 498 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 1: this he's playing against second team guys in this space, 499 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: but he's aggressive against Jokic, and I just think to myself, 500 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, but it does prove 501 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: young people improve, young people are coachable. Young people here criticism. 502 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: This is weird because he was already good, but he's 503 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 1: one of the most improved players, and he did it 504 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 1: like as an established great player. To me, he's taken 505 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: another level. This is the ad we thought we were 506 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: getting out of college, and he just wasn't emotionally ready 507 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: for it. 508 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,239 Speaker 3: I think the injuries played a role. Like to your 509 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 3: point about I agree, Like in that twenty twenty one, 510 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 3: the twenty twenty two stretch. He was kind of like 511 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 3: a finesse dude that was really big, but it didn't 512 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 3: seem like he was inflicting it on people. But in 513 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 3: his defense, he had like repeated ankle injuries and he 514 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 3: had an achilles injury during that time. So I really 515 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 3: think Ad just didn't trust his body. And I think 516 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 3: the reason why we're seeing him be so physically dominant 517 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 3: now is he just is in a really good physical place, 518 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 3: and I think that's gone a long way towards helping 519 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 3: him facilitate that you mentioned it bouncing off the screen. 520 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 3: It's crazy, like his block that he had on one 521 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 3: of the first possessions against Sudan, he he just just 522 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 3: pogo sticks above everybody, or that dunk he had on 523 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 3: the feed from KD tonight where he takes off from 524 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 3: the foul line off of two feet and just throws 525 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 3: it down clean. He just has the craziest combination of 526 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 3: like length and mobility in the league, still even at 527 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 3: his phase of his career where he's a little bit 528 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 3: bigger and not quite as mobile as he was when 529 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 3: he was younger, and and you know, at the end 530 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 3: of the day, like a lot of the focus has 531 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 3: been on what he hasn't been since the bubble, Like 532 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 3: he hasn't been knocking down all these crazy jump shots 533 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 3: the way he did in the bubble. And that's true, 534 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 3: but he's improved so much as a passers overall fear 535 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 3: feel for the game. He is a lot better at 536 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 3: those short shots, like the stuff I was talking about 537 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 3: with em beat. Ad was well over fifty percent on 538 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 3: hooks and floaters last year. That's what he does. And 539 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 3: to your point about attacking lower level bigs in FEBA, 540 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 3: he was awesome against Jokich. He was awesome most of 541 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 3: the tail end of the season. Ad has been playing 542 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 3: in the calendar year, Calendar year twenty twenty four, he's 543 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 3: been playing at an MVP level and he deserves more 544 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 3: credit for them. 545 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, in a weird way, you watch more film than 546 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 1: I do. I wonder if it wasn't this when he 547 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: was a perimeter player, when he was almost forced to 548 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: go outside, it was like, well, he doesn't want to 549 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: play five, so instead of just backing up three feet, 550 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: let's back him up nine and go shoot threes. He 551 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: ended up slashing to the basket a lot. He ended 552 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: up being a bit of a slasher and when you 553 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 1: slash and go to the floor, you fall hard. When 554 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: you take out the perimeter, he's much more around the 555 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: free throw line route. He's not slashing as much, and 556 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: therefore he's not crashing as much. 557 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 2: And I'm just. 558 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 1: Throwing this out there because he went through a stage 559 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 1: with a Lakers that like he was just hitting the 560 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: floor hard, like three times a night, and it just 561 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 1: and he's playing twice as physical and doesn't hit the 562 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 1: floor as often. So I do wonder. I do wonder 563 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 1: a little bit, Jason if as he's reduced his perimeter touches, 564 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 1: he's just not in a position to have to race 565 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: inside for the rebound, put the ball on the floor, 566 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 1: come off a screen that he's just not in position 567 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: to crack because he hits the floor occasionally. But it 568 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: was like an epidemic those bubble years. It's like you 569 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: would watch a Laker game at least twice you would wins. 570 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: You're like, oh, he's not getting up like that. 571 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 2: That's he doesn't seem to do that as much. 572 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 3: I think that's completely fair, and I think a huge 573 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 3: part of it is roster construct. I mean, for going 574 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 3: from that, JaVale McGee, Dwhite, Howard group, where like like 575 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 3: Ady was playing the vast majority of his minutes at 576 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 3: the four in that twenty twenty year, and then even 577 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 3: going into twenty twenty one. I mean you add Marc 578 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 3: Gasol to the equation. That was when they added Andre 579 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 3: Drummond at the tail end of the year. If you remember, 580 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 3: like they were going with Ad at the four almost 581 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 3: exclusively and one of the big impacts there. To your point, 582 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 3: it's not just the slashing and operating from the perimeter, 583 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 3: it's constantly having a big. 584 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 2: Guy in help. 585 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 3: We talked earlier about that geometry of the guy being 586 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 3: in the opposite block and the guy stepping in and 587 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 3: out with the defensive three seconds. They're still sliding over 588 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 3: and getting in the way all the time. It's just 589 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 3: there steps slower than Feba. But that's the thing Ad 590 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 3: was constantly contending with. If he got past his man, 591 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 3: there was another center waiting underneath the basket for him 592 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 3: to deal with. And I do think just in general, 593 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 3: him kind of functioning more as a big man scroll screening, 594 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 3: rolling into space, but not rolling hard to like he 595 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 3: doesn't always roll directly to the rim, like he'll roll 596 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 3: into that short area around the foul line like you 597 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 3: talked about, he'll take jumpers there, he'll take more floaters. 598 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 3: He's just playing more of a grown adult, like grown man, 599 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 3: old school style of basketball, and I think I think 600 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 3: it suits him well. I like, honestly, like to your point, 601 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 3: like Ad, you always will have these moments where you're 602 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 3: watching the Nuggets series and you're like, man, like Lebron 603 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 3: is still so good, like is he the best player? 604 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 3: Blah blah blah. But if you get past the shot 605 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 3: creation piece and just zoom in strictly on winning impact 606 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 3: on both ends of the floor, there just aren't many 607 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 3: guys who bring as much to the table as he does. 608 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 3: And the simplest explanation or example is this, if Ad 609 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 3: or to spring his ankle and his fifteen games next year, 610 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 3: as the Lakers are currently constructed, and you say got 611 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 3: Jackson Hayes or Christian Wood into that spot, they're going 612 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 3: three and twelve. They're going three and twelve. And that's 613 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 3: really all you need to know. Like so much of 614 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 3: the duct tape that is holding the Lakers organization together 615 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 3: is Anthony Davis. 616 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, but if Lebron misses a Knight and Austin Reeves 617 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: can be the shot creator with ad if you get 618 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: a favorable interior matchup, they can win the game. 619 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they did, and they did last year, and 620 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 3: like and that that really is the crux of it, 621 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 3: like they he And by the way, I don't know 622 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 3: if you noticed, did you see that deal with Jared 623 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 3: Allen just signed. He signed a three year like ninety 624 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 3: something million, So Jared Allen's going to be over thirty 625 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 3: million a year at the tail end of his current deal. 626 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 3: Isaiah Hartenstein just signed a deal with the Thunder this 627 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 3: summer for twenty seven million a year. These are guys that, like, 628 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 3: you know, Jared Allen's in that like like eighth or 629 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 3: ninth best center in the league. Hartenstein's in that fourteenth, fifteenth. 630 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 2: Best complimentary guys. 631 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, isn't it crazy that they're getting that much money though, 632 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 3: And that to me is a really strong indicator of 633 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 3: the league telling us that, like, oh shit, we need 634 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 3: big dudes underneath the basket that can do the work. 635 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: Well, I think the game's getting longer and longer. Players 636 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: are getting more skilled. And you know, I've said this 637 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: had nauseum, but the whole small ball thing to me 638 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 1: was such nonsense. It was like, no, the Warriors have 639 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: the best shooting backcourt ever. You can try duplicating it, 640 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: but like there's some things Patrick Mahomes does that your 641 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,719 Speaker 1: quarterback can't. Said, let's just just do what you do 642 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: and play to your you know, the Rockets tried so 643 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 1: desperately to do small ball, and it's like sometimes you 644 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: just you know, i mean, let's face it, the Splash 645 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: Brothers next to West and Goodrich. There's never been a 646 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: backcourt like that. Now I'm old enough to have seen both. 647 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: But this is a big man's sport, you know, Like 648 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: the NFL is a big dude sport. The NBA is 649 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: a length sport. It's always been that. I mean that 650 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: I can remember standing at a Laker game once on 651 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 1: the court next to Pauga Sol and I'm like, like, 652 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: what planet created? I mean, his arms were so long 653 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: and I'm just sitting there and I'm like with a buddy, 654 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: and I'm like. 655 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 2: That's just an NBA player, Like what are you gonna do? 656 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: Like they're just not you know, just so much of 657 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: it just you know, obviously skill matters, but this is 658 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: a length league. I remember talking to Mark Warkin, team 659 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: former executive in the NBA. I think Mark passed away 660 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: years ago. He was a un l V Tarks number 661 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: three guy, and he always said to me, he said Colin, 662 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: he goes, people do not understand. 663 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 2: He said, Tart gets this. 664 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: Length. He goes, the Bulls were a great team, but 665 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: they were the one of the longest teams ever. 666 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 2: He goes. 667 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: The only team in the Eastern Conference that had their 668 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 1: length was the Cleveland teams with. 669 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 2: John Williams e Loo. 670 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 1: He said that was the only team in the league 671 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: that could match up length wise. And he said, length 672 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: gives you three possessions a game. Tip passes, He goes, 673 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: Michael scored two baskets in those three possessions. He's like, 674 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: if you have a great finisher and you're long, that's 675 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: three possessions. And if you can get two baskets NBA 676 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 1: game are you known? Now, this was in the pre 677 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: three shot era, so maybe those three possessions don't equal 678 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: as many wins. But I think that the reality of 679 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: it is is you know, that's why Wemby, it's it's 680 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: the whole small ball thing outside of Isaiah Thomas in 681 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: a different league, and staff guards don't lead you the titles. 682 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: They lead you to wins that don't lead you to 683 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: titles historically, So. 684 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, really quick. 685 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 3: The my buddy Sam Vasini came on the show after 686 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 3: the NBA Finals. He works at the Athletic does an 687 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 3: amazing job, and we and we we tried to come 688 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 3: up with the two biggest things that we learned from 689 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 3: this playoff run, one for offense and one for defense. 690 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 3: And what we settled on was on offense with spacing 691 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 3: and that's it goes beyond shooting, but that it has 692 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 3: to do with like how you actually set up the floor, 693 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 3: the way you actually run your offense, and we won't 694 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 3: get into it. But on the defensive end, what we 695 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 3: settled on was ground coverage and that does not just 696 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 3: mean footspeed. Length is a direct like so for instance, 697 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 3: like if you have a big on your back line 698 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 3: who can help at the rim, but all also can 699 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 3: test the shooter in the weak side corner. It's like 700 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 3: being in two places at once. And that's what Yannis 701 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 3: did on the Bucks with with brook Lopez that made 702 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 3: him so dominant as a devender, Like your ability to 703 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 3: eat up chunks of the floor with an athlete that 704 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 3: has a seven to two wingspan. 705 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 2: South Sudan Yeah, it's exactly. 706 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 3: And that's the thing, like everyone's like, oh, they're struggling 707 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 3: with South Sudan and Susu Dan. By the way, as 708 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 3: good as the USA team played today, they were within 709 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 3: eleven in the in the. 710 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 2: Early part of the fourth quarter like that. 711 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 3: Just having a long, athletic team that plays hard, like 712 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 3: automatically check so many basketball boxes. 713 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 1: Also much it's not it's not even blocks, it's shot alteration. 714 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 2: It's exactly. 715 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 1: It's literally it's penetrating and then circling out and saying 716 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go there. Like you stop shots, you 717 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,839 Speaker 1: alter shots, you block shots. 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