1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Let not your heart be troubled. You are listening to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: the Shawan Hannity radio show podcast. Tef Lord, former Associo 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: political director in the Regular administration, wrote the best selling 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: book With American Needs. He wrote the Case for Trump 5 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: long before others thought that Donald Trump could win. As 6 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 1: an article in Today's American Spectator addressing a history of 7 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: predators in in politics, you know, it's fascinating and I'm 8 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: I'm watching as you are, and it's it's obviously getting 9 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,479 Speaker 1: worse for Judge Roy more every day. Uh. You know, 10 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: if you want, if you look at the entry in 11 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: the yearbook for example, that has has made a lot 12 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: of news. You look at that sounded weird and so 13 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: obviously that Ted Cruz and and others and John Cornyn 14 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: have now pulled their support for Roy Moore. But if 15 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: you're comparing contrast the treatment of Republicans versus Democrats when 16 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: these issues come up, it's very different, isn't it. My 17 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely? And you know one interesting thing I heard 18 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: from our friend Rush today. Roy Moore was a Democrat 19 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: for years and the first thought that went through my 20 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: mind is, let's see nothing was said about this, and 21 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: he was a Democrat now he's a Republican and all 22 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: of a suddenly these stories are spilling out. Well, when 23 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: did he become a Republican. You're saying that the allegations 24 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 1: were out of time. He was a registered Democratic, by 25 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: the way, not that it matters to victims. No, No, 26 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: I mean absolutely, just no. Look, Selan, I mean we 27 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: as conservatives, I mean, there's just no excuse for this, none, 28 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: this kind of behavior. The point is here that there 29 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: is a political issue. I mean I wrote a column 30 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: a few weeks ago when before we got here to 31 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: Roy Moore, and it was Harvey Weinstein, and I pointed 32 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: out that in nineteen or ninety nine, when ken Starr 33 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: had put out the Star Report on Bill Clinton and 34 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: and all the stories were out there about Bill Clinton, 35 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: who showed up literally in front of ken Starr's home 36 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: in the suburbs of Virginia. But Michael Moore with a 37 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: camera and a group of people dressed like Puritans, holding 38 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: the Star Report up and yelling at him as he 39 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,119 Speaker 1: got into his car as as a start out into 40 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: his car Fornicator Center, etcetera. Then they climbed on the 41 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: back of a flat buck flatbed truck, were driven all 42 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 1: around Washington and went up to Capitol Hill outside of 43 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: hearing where stars, etcetera, mocking members of Congress. The whole 44 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: point of the exercise was that people who objected to 45 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: the things that Bill Clinton had done with women were 46 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: a bunch of puritans and prudes and old fashioned moralists, 47 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: and they were out of touch with society. Well, that 48 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: was the prevailing sentiment there. And I found a review 49 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: in the New York Times of Michael Moore's television show 50 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: in which he showed this clip, and the and the 51 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 1: reviewer for the New York Times thought it was just fabulous, 52 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: just terrific. Now all of a sudden, these people are saying, 53 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: my goodness, this is horrific. Where were they? Where were they? 54 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: For decades? I mean, this is so inexcusable. And if 55 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: there's one thing that could come out of this that's 56 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: a good thing, is to put a stop for this. 57 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: And the column I have today that you mentioned. The 58 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: House and Senate can separately pass resolutions putting out there 59 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: the sense of the Senate or the sense of the 60 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: House of Representatives, and they can condemn the Clintons, and 61 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: they can call for committee action to investigate the stuff 62 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 1: and give oney to Broaderick and these other women their time, 63 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: uh in in court as it were. It's not going 64 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: to be a court. It will be the halls of Congress. 65 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: But how about putting putting you know, your money where 66 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: your mouth is and doing this. Where is Mitch McConnell 67 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,119 Speaker 1: doing this? Where for that matter in Alabama is Doug 68 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: Jones the Democrat? Well think of all the you know, 69 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: you can take it back even further. I mean, you know, 70 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: look at the case of Mary Joe Capecney. We know 71 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: what Ted Kennedy did. I mean Ted Kennedy, you know, 72 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: drives off a bridge into water. He escapes, He leaves 73 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: this girl who's in the car in the water to drown. 74 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: As he went home. He didn't tell anybody. He told 75 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: nobody and then only comes out the next day. Now, oh, 76 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: he was a respected lion of the Senate. Ted Kennedy 77 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: and many Republicans with them. In n he had the 78 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: famous waitress sandwich incident in the back room of a 79 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: restaurant that I had been at many times, called the Labrasseries, 80 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: a French restaurant. They had a private room. He was 81 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: there with Chris Dodd. The two of them got drunk 82 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: as skunks. This waitress goes in there to wait on them, 83 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: and they throw her on the table and then you know, 84 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 1: positioned her between the two men, et cetera, and they're 85 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: on the floor or on the or whatever. I mean, 86 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: it's just disgusting. And then what happens. Nothing? Nothing. And 87 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: when I hear you know, John McCain waxing indignant about 88 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: Roy Moore, John McCain was in the Senate with Ted Kennedy, 89 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: what did he do about this? Nothing? Not a single thing, 90 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: Ted Kennedy, And I don't I don't remember, you know, 91 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: many people defending in the Republican Party, the likes of 92 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: all the women who I just mentioned. No, I actually 93 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: took the time. I interviewed all of them numerous times. Yes, 94 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: you did, and God bless you for doing that. I mean, because, 95 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: by the way, I came under fire for doing that too. 96 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: By the way, that's about the story of my whole 97 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 1: life coming onto fire. Yeah. Yeah, Well, I just I 98 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: just think, Sean that that that if there's one good 99 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: thing here that can come out of all this, have 100 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: the Congress do something and called Clinton's both Clinton's to 101 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: account on these things. Did the issue of the yearbook 102 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: have an impact on you like it did me. Yeah, 103 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: I think so. I mean I just how does that? 104 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,559 Speaker 1: How does that happen? I mean, you know, everybody gets 105 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: older and if you just don't there there were just 106 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: things instinctively that you just wouldn't do. I just I 107 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: just him appalled. So what should happen? What do you 108 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 1: think should happen? I really do think that the decision 109 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: has to be made by the people of Alabama. I mean, 110 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: this is the United States Senate, and it's not run 111 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 1: by senators in Washington. It's run by the people in 112 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: the states. And you know, I think people can get 113 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: out there and say whatever they want to say, But 114 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: this is a decision for the people of Alabama and 115 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: they have to make it. All right, I gotta take 116 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: a quick break. We'll come back more with Jeff Lord, 117 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: News round Up, Information Overload, Sarah Carter and Burgess Owen 118 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 1: will check in in the next hour. Right as we 119 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: continue with Jeff Lord writes a piece of The American Spectator. 120 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: Are you as surprised that, you know, I look through 121 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: these articles today and I'm looking at you know, these 122 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: are people on the left now saying, uh, we now 123 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: have to revisit how we treated all these Clinton women 124 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 1: and how we were part of the efforts to slander 125 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: smere besmirche um, which I think, what if they mean it, 126 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: that would be great. I'm not sure every Democrat wants 127 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: to do it. And it's is when it comes to 128 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 1: all things Clinton's, its circle the wagons at any cost. Yeah, 129 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: I was surprised. I mean that the first one that 130 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: I saw that surprised me was Chris Hayes over there 131 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: at MSNBC UM and then this Atlantic article was Wow, 132 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:17,119 Speaker 1: that was pretty amazing, pretty amazing. But it just gets 133 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: to the fundamental truth here. There are some things that 134 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: should just be beyond partisan consideration. And why they were 135 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: quiet about all of this, and this was I was 136 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: in the Bush forty one administration when Clarence Thomas was 137 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: nominated for the court, and I thought Clarence Thomas was 138 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: smeared up and down, and I thought that no small 139 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: part of it had to do with the fact that 140 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: he was black and a conservative. But I saw all 141 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: these women coming out saying that women tell the truth. 142 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: There was a column in the New York Times. You 143 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: listened to us all this very sharp and said, well, 144 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: then you got to the Clinton episode, and all these 145 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: people were silent. Not only silent, they were active supporters. 146 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: And the Clinton folks were out there trying to destroy 147 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: these women, destroy their reputation, aations, destroy everything about them. 148 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: And these people, including Killery Clinton, were actively involved in this, 149 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: and not a peep from these from these women. You know, 150 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: women tell the truth. Suddenly, now all these people, you know, 151 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: you dragged that the dollar bill through a hundred dollar 152 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: bill whatever it was, through a trailer park, just disgraceful. 153 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: Yeah it was. It was a dollar bill. And even 154 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: even Monica Lewinsky of all people, I mean, she got 155 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: it the worst. Yes she did. What are they called 156 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: her a stalker and and all this kind of thing. 157 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: And let's recall, I mean Bill Clinton was how old 158 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: at that point and she was twenty two. He was 159 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: the you want to talk about a power position, he 160 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: was the president of the United States, that's right. I mean, 161 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: having worked having work for a president, a president, I mean, 162 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: that's it. Boy, when the boss speaks, you know, you 163 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: you listen and uh that that kind of behavior coming 164 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: from a sitting president of the United States or a 165 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: past president of the United States is just beyond belief. 166 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: We gotta let it go. But Jeff Grape comments appreciate it, 167 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: talk to you soon. Joining us now is former Speaker 168 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: of the House, New King Rich. He has a piece 169 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: out on Fox news dot com that says Hillary Clinton 170 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: has been getting away with unethical, illegal behavior for forty years. 171 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: You know, my sources tell me that may very well 172 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: be coming to an end. As now we have Republicans 173 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: demanding Jeff Sessions appoint of special counsel on all this, 174 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: or the Jeff Sessions should resign. And we'll talk to 175 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: two of those congressmen later. How are you, sir, I'm 176 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: doing well. And by the way, that that newsletter from 177 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: Gainish Productions, I went back, I've been at this long enough, 178 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 1: uh that I remembered the cattle futures example where she 179 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: took a thousand dollars and kept investing it in futures 180 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: until she made a hundred thousand dollars and two scholars 181 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: went out into the study. They concluded the odds were 182 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: better than a trillion to one, that that was impossible 183 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: to do legally. And I think I think it's clearly 184 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: it was insider trading. She had guys who knew what 185 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: was going to happen. They gave it, they told her 186 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: what to do. She made the money. This is what 187 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 1: Bill Clinton was first governor. And the thing that it 188 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: tells you, though, is not only that she was a crook, 189 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: not only that she got away with it and learned 190 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 1: that you can get away of these things, but it 191 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: also tells you a lot about how liberal Democrats think 192 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: about capitalism. They think it's a rigged game because for 193 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: them it is uh. They expect to cheat, and so 194 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: they don't understand this idea of hard working small business 195 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: people who go out to obey the law, work hard, 196 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 1: you know, create a company, building, earn a living, because 197 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: they assume the whole thing is rigged, which is, by 198 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: the way, part of what I think comes out of 199 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: Donna Brazil's absolutely astonishing new book and which she just 200 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: levels the Clinton machine and the Clinton organization in ways 201 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 1: that I didn't think anybody would ever have the guests 202 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: to do on the left. Let me ask you when 203 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: it comes though. You know, for years she denied that 204 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: she knew anything about fusion, GPS, Russia connections, the Russian dossier, 205 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: But now we know differently. The Clinton campaign and she 206 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: is running according to Donna Brazil, the d n C, 207 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: the entire operation as it relates to hiring, and every 208 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: every other operation she was funding it. So that's what 209 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: ten twelve million dollars total that goes to paying for 210 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 1: phony dossier that had salationous lies about Donald Trump that 211 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: a former m I six guy got from Russians and 212 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: they tried to influence an election. Now that sounds like 213 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: the very thing to me that they were accusing Donald 214 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: Trump of doing well. Plus, it raises the question, which 215 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,599 Speaker 1: I think has to be answered under oath, to what 216 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: extent was the FBI decision to investigate Trump based on 217 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:44,719 Speaker 1: a totally false, politically paid for campaign document. I mean, 218 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: does this whole thing all go back to a deliberately 219 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: rigged poison fruit that the Clinton campaign was paying for. 220 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 1: But but let me ask make a point, because there 221 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: I don't think it's it's possible to say too often. 222 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: I don't think most Emericans will ever believe it. She 223 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 1: just lies. Remember when is always the next lie and 224 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: the next lie and the next lie. She just lies. 225 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: Do you remember when William Sapphire, who has since passed away, 226 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: said she was a congenital liar and the outrage of 227 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: people right I think you're right genital liars. So I 228 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 1: started with this premise they were totally greedy about money, 229 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: they were willing to break the law. The reason I 230 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: wrote that newsletter was to say that people so all 231 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: the way back to nine seventy nine. This isn't new, 232 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: This isn't this is the pattern these two people had 233 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: for their entire career. And yet, because we find it 234 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: so hard to deal with people who are this corrupt, 235 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: we keep coming back thinking it can't really be true. 236 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,719 Speaker 1: But it is true. It's true at every little It's 237 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: true about how she handled national security, it's true about Benghazi, 238 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: it's true about her campaign, it's true about deleting thirty 239 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 1: three thousand emails, it's true about the corruption of the 240 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: Clinton Foundation. And I hope that there will be an 241 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: independent council because I agree with Alan Guels of the 242 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: Great Destroyer of Getisburgh College, who has said publicly and 243 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: has written about the fact that the the Obama administration 244 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:22,479 Speaker 1: was the most corrupt administration in American history, more corrupted 245 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 1: than the Grand Administration, more corrupt and harding, more corrupt 246 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: than any administration of American history, and had Hillary Clinton one, 247 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: that would all have been stupp under the rug. But 248 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: Jeff Sessions does not have to recuse himself on getting 249 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: to the truth about the Clinton's and he has every 250 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: opportunity as the Attorney General to insist that the Justice Department. Look, 251 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:46,199 Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I'm not trying to get them 252 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: into a criminal trial. I would just like to get 253 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: all the facts out in the open. I like to 254 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: get the American people to see just how deeply corrupt 255 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: this system was and how totally dishonest it was in 256 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: terms of lying. And I think in that sense, history 257 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: will then take care of it. Let me ask you 258 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: about this case with Judge Roy Moore and now another 259 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 1: accusation today with Gloria Allred, and I guess my my 260 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: thoughts are and then you see, Look, I've always been 261 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: a believer in the presumption of innocence. I've taken this 262 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: position my entire career. I never apologized for waiting for 263 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: facts to come in. These are serious allegations. Uh, it 264 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: would to me, it would definitely regardless of whether there's 265 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: criminal or civil liability here, because the statute of limitations, Uh, 266 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: it would disqualify anybody from being a senator or having 267 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: any other position in the public. Uh. We now have 268 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: McConnell saying Roy Moore should step aside that he believes 269 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: these women. The media is you know, in five seconds, 270 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: they just ran out there and it was trialed by 271 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: media immediately guilty. Um. What are your general thoughts on 272 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: all of this? Mitch McConnell is now exploring a writing 273 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: campaign against More. Uh and polls show that the race 274 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: is tighten. What are your thoughts on all of this? Well, 275 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: I think that Tim Scott was the one person over 276 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: the weekend who made sense. Tim Scott, Senator from South Carolina, said, 277 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: you know, this is really up to the people of Alabama. Um. 278 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: What we know is that all the people who tried 279 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: to beat Roymore in the primary would like Roymore to 280 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: get out, and they'd like to beat him in the general. 281 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: And apparently they would rather have a liberal Democrat for 282 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: six years uh and maybe for the next thirty years 283 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: UH than have somebody that they believe is tainted, who, 284 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: by the way, they opposed long before the Washington Post story. 285 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: What we also know is that Roy Moore apparently is 286 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: a very tough guy and he ain't stopping. Uh. So 287 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: now it's up to the people of Alabama. But this 288 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: this idea which I heard suggested over the weekend that 289 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: maybe they wouldn't see him if he won. I mean, 290 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: are people just losing their minds? Under our constitution, the 291 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: people in the state of Alabama have the right to 292 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: decide who their senator is. There's no provision, and it 293 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: says that the US Senate can decide that they've chose 294 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: the wrong person. Now, whether more can win or not, 295 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: whether he can try to knock down these stories or not, 296 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's his problem, and he's the burden 297 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: is on him to convince the rest of us that 298 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: he is worthy of being a U. S Senator, not 299 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: to kid I shouldn't say the rest of us to 300 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: convince the people of Alabama. But let's be very clear, 301 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: this is an Alabama Senate race in which he has 302 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: to talk with the people of Alabama. They have to 303 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: decide what their duty is uh And and I am 304 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: frankly a little disappointed. And people in Washington who take 305 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: the totally phony news of the Washington Post immediately rushed 306 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: to judgment and then compound by by having read their 307 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: own statements and decided they were right. Going a step further, 308 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: this guy has never had a jury trial, he's never 309 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: been indicted. There's never been a chance to measure up 310 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: against his his his accusers. And I'm not defending him. 311 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's an amazing to me to watch 312 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 1: you and I are in the same position. Can form 313 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 1: I listen, I don't know. I remember I remember still 314 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: when when you were a mere child. I remember Clarence 315 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: Thomas walking into that Senate hearing room and talking about 316 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: a modern day lynching, and I remember how whipped up 317 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 1: and how excited the Liberals were, and how they had 318 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: this wonderful witness, and I watched all of them melt 319 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 1: as Clarence Thomas just took them to pieces. And so 320 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 1: I would just say that that that that we ought 321 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: to be a little cautious. I'm not picking sides here. 322 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: I'm just saying I haven't interviewed anybody. I haven't looked 323 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:41,199 Speaker 1: at the evidence. I haven't seen anything which suggests you 324 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: know that we know that we know right now. And 325 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: that's why in the next few weeks, the burden is on. 326 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: I think the burden clothes on. Uh, and he's gonna 327 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 1: have to go out and prove his case. Uh. But 328 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,479 Speaker 1: I do think that that the most destructive thing they 329 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: could do is set up a right in um. And 330 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: again it's all outsiders. I mean, I don't see any 331 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 1: Alabama movement for a writer. Uh and and so I'm 332 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: just I'm just watching as an observer, trying to understand 333 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: exactly what the dynamics of this are. You know, I 334 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: learned a valuable lesson. I've explained this now many times 335 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: on the air to my audience, and I just want 336 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: to bring you up to speed. You know, when I 337 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: was in Atlanta, and I remember the Clarence Thomas thing 338 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: as vividly as you do. And I also remember Herman Kane, 339 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 1: who was a mutual friend of ours. As soon as 340 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: he got out of the race that no more charges nothing, 341 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 1: It all ends. But I knew, but I didn't know. 342 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 1: The Daily Atlanta Journal Constitution came out with Richard Jewel, 343 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 1: the guy we thought was a hero, fits the profile 344 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: of a lone bomber because he he lives with his mother. 345 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 1: I didn't know. He was listening to my radio show 346 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: that day and I said, wait a minute, that does 347 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: not make him the bomber. And I was the only one, 348 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: and he gave me one of the first interviews he 349 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: ever did, because he had been listening and said, I 350 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 1: was the only one that was fair. You know, But 351 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 1: the media has been wrong about Duke Lacrosse. They rushed 352 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 1: the judgment. They were wrong about Trayvon and Zimmerman and 353 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: the jury verdict there. They were wrong about hands up, 354 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: don't shoot in in Ferguson. They were long about Freddie 355 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: Gray and all those cops were going to be found 356 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: guilty in Baltimore. Frankly, they were wrong about Trump even 357 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: having a chance of winning, or Obama. And then you 358 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: bring up Clarence Thomas, And I am right now being 359 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: excoriated because I believe in the presumption of innocence and 360 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 1: I practiced that, and since I was in Atlanta for 361 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: the reasons I've just mentioned. And then let me just 362 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 1: suggest you and by the way, he may be all guilty. 363 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: You're right, he's got to now show that this is 364 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 1: And if he is guilt, look, if he is guilty 365 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: and he can't prove his case and he loses the election, 366 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: loses the election, would let it be in a fair 367 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: conversation with the people of Alabama and a fair chance 368 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: to defend himself, not sell Lynch Mob, and I gotta 369 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: take a quick break. We'll come back more with New 370 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: King Rich and your calls eight D nine for one, 371 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: Sean are told free telephone number. You want to be 372 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 1: a part of the program, and don't forget we have 373 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 1: an amazing Hannity tonight you don't want to miss. All Right, 374 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: as we continue, a former Speaker of the House, New 375 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: king Rich, let me just suggest it's an interesting test. 376 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: Go pull up all the Republicans who said Trump ought 377 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: to drop off the ticket when when the tapes came 378 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: out from from the Mwood, you know, the various thing 379 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: high access Hollywood tapes. Look at that weekend, how many 380 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: people said, well, maybe you go to drop off the 381 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 1: ticket and measure them against exactly the same people who 382 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 1: are now for Roy Moore dropping off the ticket. And 383 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 1: now you know what the Lynch mob looks like. I mean, 384 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: they're they're people up there who's desired to automatically assume 385 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: every Republican should be defeated. Is amazing, uh, and it 386 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: doesn't help grow the Republican party. And I'm yeah, I'm 387 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 1: not particularly for you know, I'm not advocating Moore's election, 388 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: but I do think that there are some presumption of 389 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: him having a chance to make his case to the 390 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 1: only people who matter in this race, and that's the 391 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 1: people of Alabama. Not the New York Times at aitorial board, 392 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: not the Washington Post atitorial board, not incumbent senators from 393 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: around the country, but the people of Alabama. I want 394 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: to watch see exactly how this this works out. This 395 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 1: is a West Point graduate, very tough guys, had a 396 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: long career, UH, and it's pretty clear what he seemed 397 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,959 Speaker 1: so far. He ain't back and down, So you know, 398 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: it's just a it's a It's a fascinating moment in 399 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: American history. And I think it's compounded because notice how 400 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: many left wing Hollywood types are not being you know, 401 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: they're not being exposed for forty years ago. They're not 402 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: being exposed for a kiss. I mean, the number of 403 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: people in Hollywood and and and in the news media 404 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: who are now being turned out because of actual behavior 405 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 1: in the recent past, UH is pretty stunning and sas 406 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 1: sort of the black drop for all this. I'm never 407 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: going to apologize, Mr Speaker, and there are people today 408 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 1: trying to get me fired. I will never apologize for 409 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: the presumption of innocence. I think it is fundamental to 410 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: who we are as a society, you know, and when 411 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 1: we get information, I don't advocate like you do. I 412 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: I want the truth, but I'm not going to rush 413 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 1: to judgment on anybody. You know, when I made my 414 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 1: decision on Clinton, I was one of the few people 415 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: that actually interviewed the women involved before I make my decision. Um, 416 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 1: thank you, sir for being with us. We appreciate it 417 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 1: as always. Joining us. Now is Fox News Legal analyst 418 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: Greg Jarrett. Greg, welcome back to the program. Um. Look, 419 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 1: we heard his answer the exchange yesterday with Jim Jordan, 420 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: the congressman from Ohio, and it was pretty testy. And 421 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: that was on the issue of a special counsel. On 422 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: the issue of whether or not there's investigation, that's a 423 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: whole different issue because he wouldn't be able to comment 424 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: on an investigation taking place. My interpretation that also includes 425 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: sources of mine, makes me conclude that there has been 426 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: and is an investigation ongoing. Well, I think your sources 427 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: are correct, And indeed, on Monday evening, just before his 428 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 1: Tuesday testimony, he did finally, belatedly three and a half 429 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 1: months later, respond to the House Judiciary Committee's request for 430 00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: a special counsel. Uh, and he said that he had 431 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: directed senior federal prosecutors to evaluate whether there's a special 432 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,199 Speaker 1: counsel needed. So he's, you know, he's dancing on a 433 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: very fine line here between his confirmation reccusal and actually 434 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: being involved in the decision making an overseeing an investigation. 435 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: I think there is one. It's pretty clear there is one, 436 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 1: and he may be relying on those senior federal prosecutors 437 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: to make a decision for him as to whether a 438 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: special counsel is needed. You know, as you and I've 439 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: talked about it to no brainer, there is a plethora 440 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 1: of compelling evidence that Hillary Clinton appears to have used 441 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: her office to confer a benefit to the Russian government 442 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 1: in exchange for money, and that would be you know, bribery, 443 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: mail fraud, wire fraud, and probably racketeering. Let's go through 444 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 1: the specifics because one of the things that I love 445 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: when you do your columns, as you you take the 446 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: evidence of what we're looking at and the things that 447 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 1: we know and the facts that we know, and then 448 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 1: you you sort of marry it together with whatever the 449 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: the laws that would be applicable in that case happened 450 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 1: to be. Let's stay on uranium one for a minute. Um, 451 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: I guess if we started at the beginning. Now we 452 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: know that there was an FBI informant that had infiltrated 453 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: this network that clearly at Vladimir Putin had set up 454 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: in America to get a foothold in the uranium market. 455 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 1: And that's where the FBI informant discovered bribery and kickbacks 456 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: and extortion and money laundering and a bunch of other 457 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: racketeering issues. That was in two thousand and nine. Robert 458 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 1: Muller was the FBI Director, Eric Holder was the Attorney General. Um, 459 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,679 Speaker 1: this guy stayed in there at the request of the 460 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,679 Speaker 1: FBI for four plus years. He accumulates his own eyewitness 461 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: testimony because he's on the inside. He has documents, he 462 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: has emails, and he has tape recordings were told and 463 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: so all of this now is going to come out 464 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: because he's been under a gag order. Walk us through 465 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: how we would ever sell or allow and anyone have 466 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: any control over of our uranium knowing these of Vladimir 467 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: Putin actors that are involved in this effort to do it, 468 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: why would we ever do that? Well, there's two answers 469 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: to that, stupidity and corruption. Stupidity. We would be on 470 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 1: the part of President Obama and the Obama administration to 471 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: think that it was a good idea to sell the 472 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: fundamental elements of nuclear bombs to your enemy, which already 473 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: has twelve hundred strategic nuclear missiles aimed at the United States. So, 474 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 1: I mean, that's just playing um, but it's the the 475 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 1: whole kumbaya President Obama method of dealing, you know, with 476 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: foreign adversaries. You know. Uh. The corruption part would be 477 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton's involvement pay to play scheme um, which, as 478 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: I mentioned, violates all kinds of anti corruption statutes. But 479 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: it also involves the cover up to which you just alluded. 480 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 1: You're talking about three or four people who knew about 481 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: this within law enforcement, Robert Muller, Rod Rosenstein, Andrew Weissman. Uh. 482 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: And they never told to Congress what they knew. That 483 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 1: they knew of the illegality by the Russians to secure 484 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: the deal. They had a legal duty to tell Congress. Congress, 485 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 1: had they known, would have stopped it. Uh. And I'm 486 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 1: not sure they told all the members of the Scythist Committee, 487 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 1: even though Eric Holder sat on the committee, and he 488 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: is the fourth person who knew, and yet they all 489 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: hushed it up. That strikes me as a cover up. 490 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: It's clearly wrongful behavior U. And that is one of 491 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 1: the reasons why Mueller and rosen Stein and Weissman, all 492 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: of whom are now involved in the Trump Russia investigation, 493 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:39,479 Speaker 1: must recuse themselves. But it's not happening because there's nobody 494 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: to force them. Although Paul manaforts attorneys can file emotion 495 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 1: now that they have legal standing having been indicted, to 496 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: argue to the judge that that Mueller's appointment was unlawful 497 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: and therefore he ought to be removed and the indictment 498 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: set aside. I wonder in the end, is that good 499 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: or bad for everybody involved in this considering that would 500 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: probably be a reset and we just start all over again, 501 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: and who wants to put the country through this again. Well, 502 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 1: you make a strong argument, because so far it appears 503 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 1: that there is no evidence that touches Donald Trump. Wasn't 504 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: that I mean that there's another question. I mean you 505 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,199 Speaker 1: look at the Maniford indictment. What does that have to 506 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: do with Trump Russia collusion? Nothing? Zero, nothing to do 507 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 1: with Russia. Now it all deals with basically tax fraud 508 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: and his businesses that pre date is involvement with President Trump. 509 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: So you're right about that, although you know, you do 510 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 1: wonder about people like Papadopoulos, um, which nobody had ever 511 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 1: really heard of. I'm not sure the President remembered that 512 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 1: he sat on a council that meant once. But um, 513 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 1: it's interesting Papadopolis was only charged with line to the FBI, 514 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 1: not charged with collusion. Why because his meetings with Russians 515 00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: violating the laws. So you know, we're finds me a 516 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: little bit of Patrick Fitzgerald. You know, spends all this 517 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 1: time with three years and the only thing he came 518 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: up with was Scooter Libby. And yet when he first 519 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,439 Speaker 1: took the position, he was looking into who was the 520 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 1: leaker in terms of the valerie playing issue, and number one, 521 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: she wasn't even a covert agent. But number two, he 522 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: found out on day one that the leaker was Richard Armitage. Now, 523 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,679 Speaker 1: in my mind, that was the express reason for the 524 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: special prosecutor in that case. And I don't know why 525 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 1: it encloses doors, close up shop and say, okay, we 526 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: got the leaker, we know who it is and move 527 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 1: on from there. That never happens. And the interesting thing 528 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: about the Special Council statute is that if the Special 529 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: Counsel finds evidence of unchargeable wrongdoing, he's not even allowed 530 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: to talk about it. He can only reveal and talk 531 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: about chargeable crime. So in the Scooter Libby case, that's 532 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: all he could ever talk about. And nobody ever found 533 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: out about Dick Armitage until later. And you know this, 534 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: after it's all said and done, he knew from day one. 535 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: And then, you know, this is the thing that I 536 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: worry about for people that go before you know grand 537 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: juries are they talked to the FBI. And I know 538 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: I don't have a perfect memory. I would have to 539 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: scan my memory deeply. And I don't even think I 540 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: could tell you who was on my TV show last 541 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: Thursday night if you asked me, I honestly could not 542 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: give you an honest answer. Now, if you want how 543 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: the statistics on how Ronald Reagan you know what he 544 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: did for the economy and piece through strength and tear 545 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: down this wall, I can give you chapter in verse. 546 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: But I mean, you know, to ask somebody three years later, 547 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: and let's say they they don't remember accurately, then you're 548 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: charge with perjury. That becomes, in my mind, a perjury 549 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: trapp it is, and it's it's been abused by the 550 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: federal government and especially the FBI. Look if if somebody's 551 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: memory is different about a conversation, then how the FBI 552 00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: interprets the conversation. That's not a crime. Each should be. 553 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: And Yeah, the FBI uses that all the time to 554 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: either bring frivolous prosecutions or they do it to try 555 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: to gain leverage to get somebody to flip. Uh. It's 556 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: reprehensible and it's illegal, But the FBI does it all 557 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: the time. And as we continue, Fox News legal animist 558 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: Greg Jared is with us. All right, let me ask 559 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,719 Speaker 1: that we talked about uranium one, what about the Fusion 560 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: GPS dossier. I mean, is it possible that the Hillary 561 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: Clinton d n C bought and paid for salacious lies 562 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: on Donald Trump? Is it possible that that was used 563 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: as the pretense to go to a FISA court and 564 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: get surveillance on Donald Trump, the opposition candidate, either Candidate 565 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: Trump or President elect Trump? And what would that mean 566 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: if if that was the case, I mean, basically bought 567 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: and paid for Hillary lies opens up wide open surveillance 568 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 1: against our opponent. If coming knew that the dossier upon 569 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: which he relied to get the FISA warrant was not valid, 570 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: then he has committed a crime that needs to be 571 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: part of a second Special Council investigation, as the House 572 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: Judiciary Committee has demanded. And then, of course the d 573 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: n C and Hillary Clinton campaign pay money to a 574 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: foreign national to gain this information in a political campaign. 575 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,959 Speaker 1: That's a violation of the Federal Election Campaign Act. And 576 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: clearly they didn't account for it uh in their financial 577 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: disclosure forms. That is also a crime. So the d 578 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: n C and Hillary Clinton could be charged with two crimes. 579 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: They're not to mention Comey's alleged criminal activity. Where do 580 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: we stand as it relates even to the email server scandal, 581 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: because I mean, on all three Uranium one, the Fusion 582 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: GPS DO and on the email SERVERCE scandal, you have 583 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: identified multiple multiple felonies. Is that would this be under 584 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: the heading of one special council too? Special councils? Is 585 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: there is there any way that we can Is there 586 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: any statute of limitations issues at this point, No, there 587 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: are no statute of limitations that were coming up against 588 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: and the House Judiciary Committee when they sent their July 589 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: letter demanding the Special Council laid it out pretty nicely. 590 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: I reviewed it again last night, and insofar as the 591 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 1: email scandal is concerned, the Committee has asked that the 592 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: Special Counsel reopened that case to determine whether Attorney General 593 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: Loretta Lynch and FBI Director Comey obstructed justice in an 594 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: effort to exonerate Clinton and the exoneration letter that he 595 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: penned two months before he ever interviewed her is damning 596 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: evidence of that. All right, Greg Jarrett, Fox News Legal Analysts, 597 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. We appreciate all your 598 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: expertise on all those We've got a lot more to 599 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: cover here. As you know, President Trump has tried to 600 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: flip the script and now says the Justice Department should 601 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,959 Speaker 1: be investigating you. And this way we learned the Attorney 602 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 1: General Sessions is considering the special counsel to the Uranium 603 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: one deal and alleged confidence with the Clinton Foundation. What's 604 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: your reaction to this? You know, I regret deeply that 605 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 1: this appears to be uh the politicization of the Justice 606 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: Department and our justice system. Uh, this Iranian One story 607 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: has been debunked countless times by members of the press, 608 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 1: by independent experts. Uh, it is nothing but a you know, 609 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 1: a false charge that the Trump administration is trying to 610 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: drum up in order to avoid attention being directed at them. 611 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: I mean, even trade Gaudy somebody who's hardly a fan 612 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: of mine, uh said, uh that you know, there doesn't 613 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: seem to be the basis for a special counsel. Of 614 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,479 Speaker 1: course there isn't. But if I try to take myself 615 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: out of it, which you know, it's kind of hard 616 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: because it's personally offensive that they would do this, But 617 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: taking myself out of it. This is such an abusive 618 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: power and it go was right at the rule of law. 619 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: Uranium one case, I know you've been asked about it. 620 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 1: Can you say forget about whether it's under investigation? In 621 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: the past, has did the FBI or d o J 622 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:16,320 Speaker 1: inform either President Obama, Secretary Clint or any cabinet secretary 623 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 1: that it had uncovered evidence that Rossa Tom's main US executive, 624 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:24,240 Speaker 1: Vadam McKern was engaged in bribery, kickbacks, and money laundering 625 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 1: Before the Obama administration approved the Uranium one sale in 626 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: two thousand and ten, it is it that the Makaran matter, 627 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: the matter there was prosecuted in Maryland, but there were 628 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: in an informant in two thousand nine, two thousand and ten, 629 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 1: the FBI had evidence of bribery, kickbacks and money laundering. 630 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,240 Speaker 1: Was that information conveyed to any of their relative people 631 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: on the CIFIAS board of the Clinton other cabinet secretaries 632 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: or was it uh given to the president? UM. The 633 00:34:55,080 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: way understand that matter is that the case in which 634 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:07,280 Speaker 1: Mr Mickeran was convicted was not connected to the CIFIUS 635 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 1: problem that ac t to three years before. When the 636 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 1: case came to the UH the United States Attorney's office 637 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: Mr Rosenstein's office in Maryland, CIPFIUS had already been approved. 638 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: By two years or more. There was an FBI informant 639 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: starting in two thousand nine. Head, you're gonna I have 640 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,720 Speaker 1: not talked with him, but UH, the Department of Justice, 641 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 1: I understand has approved him UM providing information to the Congress, 642 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 1: and UH he's understandably set up in a few days 643 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: and you'll be able to hear from him direct. You 644 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: should too, because you know from everything I've been proffered, 645 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: he has evidence of illegal conduct. Two thousand nine and 646 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: two thousand ten, before this deal was agreed to involving 647 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 1: uranium one, it was all connected, all right. That was 648 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton. Uranium one is false and uh, this is 649 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 1: an abuse of power. Fascinating you talking about a dual 650 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: justice system coming out of the Clintons. We'll get to that. Uh. 651 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 1: That was Rhonda Santis asking Jeff Sessions about uranium one session, 652 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 1: saying the informant will testify to Congress. In a few days, 653 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 1: Reuters released the name of the FBI informant. This is 654 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,800 Speaker 1: now all building into what is going to be a massive, 655 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 1: massive case. I am telling you, TikTok, everybody, it's gonna 656 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 1: get really big. The person that got it all started 657 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: is Peter Schweitzer, author of the number one New York 658 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 1: Times best selling book Clinton Cash, The untold story of 659 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: how and why foreign governments and businesses helped make Bill 660 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 1: and Hillary so rich. And he's also the president of 661 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 1: the Government Accountability Institute. Welcome back, Peter, How are you great? 662 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 1: Sean great to be back on with you. Thanks for 663 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 1: having me. I want to give you an opportunity just 664 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 1: directly to respond to Hillary and what she was saying. Oh, 665 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,319 Speaker 1: this has all been bout Oh this is old news. Oh, 666 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,360 Speaker 1: this is about the justice system and and abuse of 667 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,240 Speaker 1: the justice system. What is your answer to that, Well, 668 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,760 Speaker 1: you know, look, here's what's happened. You have Hillary Clinton 669 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,919 Speaker 1: and her allies and some people in the media who 670 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 1: are taking the Uranium one story and they are cropping 671 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 1: out of the picture certain key events. So what they 672 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 1: will do is they will look at say two thousand ten, 673 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 1: the Uranium one deal, a certain time period and say, look, 674 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 1: if you look at just this time period, we don't 675 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 1: find any evidence. And it's like taking a picture and 676 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 1: cropping certain things out to distort what's going on. What 677 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,440 Speaker 1: we know, Sean, very very clearly is you have the 678 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 1: head of the Kazak Uranium U Ministry UM staying in 679 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 1: detail in two thousand ten in a video deposition that 680 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:49,280 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton extorted Kazak officials to get these uranium assets 681 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: that launched Uranium one. UH. They extorted Kazak officials and 682 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 1: said she was not going to cooperate with them until 683 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 1: those uranium assets were given to Frank Giustra, who became 684 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 1: a Clinton Foundation donor. UH. And this is important, by 685 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 1: the way, Sean, because Kazakhstan at the time was receiving 686 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 1: tens of millions of dollars in US taxpayer money for 687 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 1: non proliferation efforts. And who was on the subcommittee with 688 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 1: oversight of that that was then Senator Hillary Clinton. So 689 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,400 Speaker 1: there's a lot to this story that rings true. And 690 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton has never been asked about this, she has 691 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 1: never dealt with this issue at all. And initially the 692 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,799 Speaker 1: Clinton's Bill Clinton, claimed that he did not know this 693 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 1: official Jack Ashchev and lied to the New York Times 694 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 1: about it. The New York Times then produced a photograph 695 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 1: of this gentleman Jack ashev meeting with Bill Clinton in 696 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 1: Chappaquaw in the Clinton home, and then Bill Clinton had 697 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,280 Speaker 1: to change his story. So that in and of itself 698 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 1: is interesting. But that's the beginning of this story that 699 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 1: then moves to two thousand ten, the flow of money, 700 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: money that was never disclosed this approved process. And what 701 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,279 Speaker 1: a lot of critics of your Ranny one story want 702 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 1: to do is just isolate part of the story and 703 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 1: ignore the rest. And you simply can't do that. And 704 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 1: you know, my position has been from the beginning, we 705 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,760 Speaker 1: need to investigate it. The only way you can find 706 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:20,240 Speaker 1: out what exactly precisely happened is by investigating this and 707 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 1: and it's ridiculous to me the standard that people are 708 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 1: setting up in the Clinton camp is because we cannot 709 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 1: prove the actual crime being committed, you don't investigate well 710 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 1: in all these other cases of political corruption. You start 711 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 1: an investigation when there is suspicious evidence. And there's more 712 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 1: in this case than there has been in a number 713 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,920 Speaker 1: of other public corruption cases. Going back, I want to 714 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:48,320 Speaker 1: go to the FBI informant that had infiltrated this network 715 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 1: set up inside of this country for over four years. 716 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 1: Again an FBI informant, and I am told there are 717 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 1: tens and tens and tens of thousands of documents and 718 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 1: notes and ever, and that this individual has that he 719 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:07,360 Speaker 1: will now be presenting before Congress along with him having 720 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 1: his own experience having infiltrated this network. And this is 721 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:14,800 Speaker 1: the network where bribery and extortion and racketeering and money laundering, 722 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,799 Speaker 1: uh and bribery all that had happened. And it's now 723 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,839 Speaker 1: now we have questions about who knew what, when and 724 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 1: where in terms of what Putin was doing in the 725 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 1: the desire of Vladimir Putin to get into the uranium 726 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 1: market in America now all of this has to be 727 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,839 Speaker 1: predicated on this fact that America does not have enough 728 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,320 Speaker 1: uranium and we import uranium, and then why we would 729 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 1: ever allow any outside entity to have any control, you know, 730 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 1: why we would ever approve it for national security purposes. 731 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 1: It just one of the dumbest decisions I've ever heard, 732 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,360 Speaker 1: never made sense on the surface of it. But this 733 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,320 Speaker 1: all They had, all this information about Putin's desire to 734 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 1: get a foothold in the uranium market in two thousand 735 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,359 Speaker 1: and nine. Now the evidence is going to show this 736 00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,840 Speaker 1: is all true and that people knew, like Robert Mueller 737 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 1: and and Rosenstein and people like Eric Calder and then 738 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,839 Speaker 1: it will become what at Hillary now and when did 739 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,720 Speaker 1: she know it? Let's talk about that. Yeah, no, you're right, Sean. 740 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 1: I mean look, in two thousand and ten, the Moscow Times, 741 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 1: which is an English language publication based in Russia, actually 742 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,720 Speaker 1: ran an article people can go find it online where 743 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 1: the money that was used to purchase uranium one uh 744 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 1: was released by Latimerputin himself at a public ceremony. There's 745 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 1: an article about it. So you know, the argument that 746 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 1: that somehow, well this uranium sale Uranium one is no 747 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:38,279 Speaker 1: big deal. Why is the president of Russia announcing the 748 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,400 Speaker 1: fact that they are purchasing uranium one. That's the first 749 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,719 Speaker 1: thing that people have to get their hands around is 750 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,759 Speaker 1: so this was done at the highest level. But the 751 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 1: second factor that is dismissed by critics is uranium. One. 752 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 1: Not only has uranium assets in the United States, they 753 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 1: have ones in Kazakhstan. Those ones. I mentioned earlier that 754 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 1: that Hillary and Bill Clinton helped the come but he 755 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 1: gets those are some of the richest uranium deposits in 756 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,399 Speaker 1: the world. They have deposits in Australia, they have them 757 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 1: in Africa, and all of those had to for this 758 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 1: deal to be done. It had to get the approval 759 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 1: of Scythias, the federal government, and the Obama administration. So 760 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 1: we are talking about vast uranium deposits, not just those 761 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 1: in the United States that were signed off by the 762 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 1: Obama administration. And look, let's remember when this deal was 763 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:30,759 Speaker 1: being considered in two you had senior ranking Republicans on 764 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 1: the House Arms Services Committee, on the House Foreign Affairs Committee, 765 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,360 Speaker 1: on the House Financial Services Committee, on the Homeland National 766 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 1: Security Homeland Committee, all of them were expressing their concerns 767 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,799 Speaker 1: about this deal. And sent letters to Scythias saying we 768 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,280 Speaker 1: think that this deal is bad for American national security. 769 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 1: So the argument that nobody was objecting to this and 770 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 1: there's nothing to see here is simply not there when 771 00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 1: you look at the historic record. And the problem is 772 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 1: a lot of people commenting on uranium one aren't even 773 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 1: looking at that historical record. Sean. That's part of the problem. 774 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,879 Speaker 1: And even have now you know, the never Trump crowd there, 775 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,399 Speaker 1: it seems like they almost want to do everything they 776 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 1: can do to defend Hillary Clinton on this, which is amazing, 777 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 1: But I don't think they're gonna be able to do 778 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,360 Speaker 1: it because the facts are clear. Um. I have noticed 779 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,880 Speaker 1: people saying, well, the timing of the payments and the 780 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,480 Speaker 1: money to the Clinton Foundation don't coincide with a quid 781 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,480 Speaker 1: pro quo, and I saw you had a very strong 782 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 1: answer to that. Well, that's right, Sean. They don't line 783 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:33,520 Speaker 1: up if you cut out key events. Look two thousand five, 784 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:38,799 Speaker 1: the Clinton's helped Frank justra get these uranium deposits in Kazakhstan, 785 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 1: and you have the testimony of the Kazak uranium minister. 786 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:43,760 Speaker 1: You had a big article in the New York Times 787 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:47,400 Speaker 1: about this after those assets are procured. In two thousand five, 788 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 1: Frank Chustra since thirty million dollars, and that's the beginning 789 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:55,360 Speaker 1: of donations. That's the key. So that explains the reason 790 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,959 Speaker 1: you get these early donations. Then in two thousand and ten, 791 00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,360 Speaker 1: when it's up for federal review, you still have eight 792 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 1: members of of of the board or investors in Uranium 793 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:10,239 Speaker 1: one who are contributing to the Clinton Foundation, and those 794 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 1: donations were not disclosed. The actual chairman of the company 795 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:18,480 Speaker 1: in Telfer, who's Canadian, donated two point three five million 796 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,440 Speaker 1: dollars that were never disclosed by the Clintons. When the 797 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 1: Russians took over the company, he remained as chairman of 798 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 1: the company. Um that has never been responded to. So 799 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 1: you know, look, what they want to do is exclude 800 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 1: certain events, ignore certain facts. You can't do that. And 801 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:38,440 Speaker 1: my point is simply, let's investigate to find out precisely 802 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 1: what happened and see how much evidence there is in 803 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,840 Speaker 1: the flow of money and the decision making process that 804 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 1: was made. I want to go back to the nine 805 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 1: people that approved this, and I want to go back 806 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 1: to the fact that the FBI knew of Plutin's intentions. 807 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,160 Speaker 1: How could that not grab the attention of the FBI, 808 00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,720 Speaker 1: How could that not have gotten to the Attorney General 809 00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 1: or Calder at the time. Well clear early that we 810 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:04,120 Speaker 1: know that there's a paper trail Shawn of communication State 811 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,160 Speaker 1: Department cables for example, that came out in Wiki Leaks, 812 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,640 Speaker 1: and I talked about them in the book. Um, there 813 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:13,320 Speaker 1: are State Department cables going to Hillary Clinton from the U. S. 814 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 1: Embassy in Kazakhstan reporting on the fact that Russia is 815 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:21,680 Speaker 1: trying to desperately work to corner the world geranium market. 816 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 1: Those cables exist, those cables were sent, so those are 817 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:28,080 Speaker 1: not in dispute. Um. And and there was other evidence 818 00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,239 Speaker 1: as well, statements. I mean, there was an article in 819 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:34,440 Speaker 1: Provda about after the uranium one deal went through describing 820 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:38,440 Speaker 1: how the Russian nuclear industry was now dominating the world. 821 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,920 Speaker 1: So this has been well known in in you know, 822 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 1: specialist circles, well known in the energy field. And for 823 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,439 Speaker 1: them to argue that, oh, you know, no, we didn't 824 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,160 Speaker 1: either know about this or it's not a big deal again, 825 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:54,359 Speaker 1: just runs contrary to the historical record itself. All right, 826 00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 1: as we continue to stay with us. Peter Schweitzer is 827 00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,880 Speaker 1: the author of the best selling book Clinton Cast, The 828 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,440 Speaker 1: Untold Story of How and why foreign governments and businesses 829 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 1: helped make Bill and Hillary rich. And as we continue, 830 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,920 Speaker 1: Peter Schweitzer is with us, and he, of course the 831 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,680 Speaker 1: author of the New York Times number one bestseller Clinton Cash, 832 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,840 Speaker 1: The Untold Story of How and why foreign governments and 833 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,799 Speaker 1: businesses helped make Bill and Hillary Clinton rich. How rich 834 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,280 Speaker 1: did they get? Well, it's it's it's hard to say 835 00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,879 Speaker 1: because the reporting has been incomplete. Um, we know that 836 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:30,040 Speaker 1: they made millions of dollars in speaking fees from people 837 00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:34,040 Speaker 1: that were correct directly or indirectly connected to the Uranium 838 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,759 Speaker 1: one deal. But we also know that those that were 839 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:40,279 Speaker 1: involved in Uranium one from two thousand five up to 840 00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:44,960 Speaker 1: two thousand ten donated a combined one forty five million 841 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:49,320 Speaker 1: dollars to the Clinton Foundation, which which is an astronomical sum. 842 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,440 Speaker 1: And and honestly, Sean, I've said this before, I cannot 843 00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:57,600 Speaker 1: imagine a situation where a SA Secretary of Defense that 844 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 1: was not named Clinton had a house who was running 845 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,480 Speaker 1: a private foundation, who took a hundred forty five million 846 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:08,719 Speaker 1: dollars from, say, defense contractors who wanted to influence the 847 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:12,160 Speaker 1: Secretary Defense that that would not even be investigated, that 848 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,360 Speaker 1: that there would be a serious discussion to say, no, 849 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,960 Speaker 1: there's nothing to see here, there's no conflict of interest. 850 00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,839 Speaker 1: So it's a lot of money. The timing is there. 851 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:24,440 Speaker 1: Barack Obama had insisted, as did John Kerry, the chairman 852 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:28,200 Speaker 1: of the Center Foreign Relations Committee, when when Hillary was 853 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:33,120 Speaker 1: was appointed, explicitly said you need to disclose all donations. 854 00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,280 Speaker 1: The Clintons promised to do that, and in fact they didn't. 855 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:40,480 Speaker 1: They happened to hide and not disclose the donations that 856 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,319 Speaker 1: came from the chairman of Uranium one and some of 857 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:47,879 Speaker 1: the other shareholders. Into my mind, that alone merits investigation. 858 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,759 Speaker 1: How did that happen and why did they not disclose them? 859 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,120 Speaker 1: All right, really good informative session. I can tell you 860 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,960 Speaker 1: that starting next week, if I'm the Clintons, if I'm 861 00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,760 Speaker 1: involved in Uranium one, there is going to be an 862 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:05,879 Speaker 1: avalanche that is coming. One sewn toll free telephone number. 863 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,520 Speaker 1: You want to be a part of this extravaganza, All right, 864 00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,560 Speaker 1: we'll take a quick break. We'll have some fun when 865 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,520 Speaker 1: we get back. My buddy John mc lemore is here, 866 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:17,600 Speaker 1: and I just love this guy. Thanksgiving is coming when 867 00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:19,560 Speaker 1: you're talking about the best food you've ever had in 868 00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 1: your life. Absolutely quick break right back, We'll continue