1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted Social 2 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: Distancing Style from Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, 3 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: joined as always by the one and only Wes Hodkowits, 4 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: and Wes, I need to start this show by offering 5 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: an apology to our regular listeners and viewers. Our plan 6 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: was to do two shows per week during the regular season. 7 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: We did not meet that goal a week ago. Long 8 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 1: story short, I'll spare you the details. Just duties and 9 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 1: other responsibilities and things got in the way all of 10 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: us involved in this, including our producer Marvin Um. So anyway, 11 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: we apologize for that. We are going to try to 12 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: forge ahead and do two shows a week and we 13 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: appreciate you sticking with us as we roll with the 14 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: punches here in So with that, Wes, we have a 15 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: second Packers victory to talk about. Forty two, twenty one 16 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: Sunday at lambeau Field. The Packers double up on the 17 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: Detroit Lions, and fitting that the score was a double 18 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: up because doubling up at the end of the first 19 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: half beginning of the second half with those two touchdowns 20 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,279 Speaker 1: was really what swung this game in Green Bay's favor. 21 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: So Here's what's funny. We did inside our inbox last 22 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 1: week and somebody asked me, Hey, is there any chance 23 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: that the Packers could repeat what they did against the 24 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings. I'm like, they had an all time like 25 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 1: incredible performance. There's no chance you're gonna have another five yards, 26 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: forty plus points, thirty plus first downs and no turnovers. 27 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: That was the first time it had happened in franchise history. 28 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: A week ago against Minnesota in Lo and behold they 29 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: come up twelve yards shy in like four first downs 30 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: of like hitting those same marks again. I mean they 31 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: were off to just this trepid start right now. But 32 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: you know, you talked an important thing there, Mike, and 33 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: it's something that over the course of time here, especially 34 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: over the last few years, it's become so important with 35 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: the deferring the opening kickoff for teams trying to double 36 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: up at the end of the half, and then going 37 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: into the second half. Uh, this was as picture perfect 38 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: as it gets in terms of how the Packers went 39 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 1: about it. And then that you know carry to start 40 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: the second half, a seventy five yard touchdown that Aaron 41 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: Jones started the third quarter with. You couldn't ask for 42 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: a better swing for Green Bay, not only on the scoreboard, 43 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: going from being down four what was it, fourteen to ten, 44 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: two up twenty four to fourteen. Not only just that, 45 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: but just the momentum swing, the way it changed the defense, 46 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: the way the offense started approaching the game differently. Uh, 47 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: it was everything you could have wished it to be 48 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: for the Packers and they come out on top and 49 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: now two and oh in the NFC North. Yeah, well, 50 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if I've ever seen that double up 51 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: on either ends of a halftime so close together. The 52 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: Packers scored a touchdown fourteen seconds before intermission, and then 53 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones went of any five yards to the house 54 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: twelve seconds into the third quarters. So twenty six seconds 55 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: on the clock is all that had lapsed essentially between 56 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: those two touchdowns. And yeah, it it really in a sense, 57 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: it capped the Packers come back from being down fourteen 58 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: to three after one quarter. It was an accomplishment enough 59 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 1: just to be able to grab the lead by a halftime, 60 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: but then to suddenly be ahead ten points before the 61 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: Lions even got the ball in the second half. Was 62 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: was really a big swing. And you look at you 63 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: look at two sequences here west when the Packers are 64 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: down fourteen to three, the touchdown that got them to 65 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: fourteen to ten, Aaron Jones accounted for forty five of 66 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: the seventy five yards on that drive. Then he bust 67 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: the seventy five yard run to start the third quarter, 68 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: and he was on his way to a career day 69 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty six yards from scrimmage rushing and 70 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: receiving combined, the third most in Packers history, a career 71 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: day for number thirty three. And I tell you what, 72 00:03:58,080 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: I hate to say this because I don't want to 73 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: you know, jinks him or anything, but this might not 74 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: be the first time this year we're talking about a 75 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: two hundred plus yards from scrimmage day for Aaron Jones. Well, 76 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: and the reason you can say that, Mike, is because 77 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: it happened last year against Kansas City, So over the 78 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: span of what maybe ten games now, it's happened twice 79 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: for him. An incredible performance. The thing I love the 80 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 1: most about it, too, is that Jamal Williams had eight 81 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: carries for sixty three yards too in this contest. If 82 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: he would have had the touches, he probably would have 83 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: went off for a career Day two, everything was clicking 84 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: in the right way. The Packers got banged up on 85 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: the offensive line, but they were still able to adjust 86 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: and be able to create those opportunities Matt Patricia. In 87 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: this plan for Detroit, they wanted to take away Davante Adams. 88 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: That was apparent from the first kickoff of this game, 89 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: and Adams, also dealing with the hamstring issue, only had 90 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: three catches for thirty six yards, but they made them 91 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: pay with the opportunities that they created with Aaron Jones. 92 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: And I liked a line that Jones gave us in 93 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: the postgame zoom call. He mentioned, how you know, early on, 94 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: you gotta remember his longest carry against Minnesota was only 95 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: fifteen yards, so early on he's getting these three four 96 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: or five yard carries, and you're kind of wanting to 97 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 1: break one here. You're wanting to actually sort of, you know, 98 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: make a statement and not just have all these you know, 99 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: short things underneath. Yes, they help you move the chains, 100 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: but they're not really those back baked, blake, back breaking 101 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: type plays and received exactly. Mercedes Lewis came came up 102 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 1: to him on the sideline and he said, hey, listen, 103 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: just stay at it, you're going to be able to 104 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 1: break the big one. They got the twenty two yard 105 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 1: pick up off the pass underneath at the end of 106 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: the first half that you were talking about with that drive, 107 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 1: and then to come up with the seventy five yard 108 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: or a hundred and sixty eight rushing yards a career 109 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: high for him, two hund thirty six all purpose yards, 110 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: the most buy a Packers running back in team history, 111 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: the third most overall behind Billy Houghton, and then also, um, 112 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: you know Don Hudson. An incredible performance by Aaron Jones 113 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: and being able to really make the Detroit Lions pay 114 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: for picking their poison and wanted to take away Davante 115 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 1: Adams of the passing game. Yeah, well, I want to 116 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: talk a little bit more about some of those pieces 117 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: the Packers have on offense, but I don't want to 118 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: forget about our sponsor business here. So folks gear up 119 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: for game day, open a Packers checking account from Associated 120 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: Bank and score a fifty dollar Packers Pro Shop gift card. 121 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: Learn more at Associated bank dot com. Backslash Packers. Well, 122 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: through two games here West, the Packers have one thousand 123 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 1: and ten yards of total offense, which is like mind boggling. 124 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: But here's the thing we saw. Davante Adams have the 125 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: monster game against the Minnesota Vikings. Aaron Jones is the 126 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 1: one with the monster game against the Detroit Lions. But 127 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: you don't have a thousand yards of offense through two 128 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 1: games if the complementary pieces are not doing their part. 129 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: And you look at what's going on here. Mark Quisvelde 130 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 1: Scantling has over a hundred and fifty receiving yards and 131 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: a touchdown. Um Alan Lazard has over a hundred yards 132 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: receiving and a touchdown through two games. Jamal Williams has 133 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: over a hundred yards from scrimmage in two games. Robert 134 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: Tanyan has a touchdown pass that the eight ends chiming 135 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: in on on Sunday with a score. So, yes, they've 136 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: had these big games from the big stars, and that's 137 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: what you need to that that's what you need to win. 138 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: But to establish any level of consistency with the offense, 139 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: you've got to have these other guys chipping in. And yes, 140 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: there have been some drop passes. Tanyan dropped one, MVS 141 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: dropped a couple in Minnesota. All that the Packers know, 142 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: there are things that they can smooth out, but they 143 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: are getting the contributions, the complementary contributions to their star 144 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: players that has really taken this offense to another level. Yeah, 145 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: it really has, Mike, And you know, we talked about 146 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: Joside Deguire last week and the contribution that he made 147 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: and certainly end up having the shin an ankle injury, 148 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: so he was out of this game against the Lions. 149 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: But it's those type of players that maybe aren't necessarily 150 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: a top ten round drafted player in a fantasy football league, 151 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: but the type of guys that make your football team 152 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: better and make your offense more efficient. I think Robert 153 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: Tanian fits perfectly. It's it's incredible the journey he's been 154 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: on and how being a practice squad player making a 155 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: transition from receiver back in two thousand eighteen to now 156 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: being in fitting into a system of offense. He wasn't 157 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: even that wasn't even here when he started in Green Bay. Uh. 158 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: Those are just how the domino is kind of aligned 159 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: sometimes and how the chips fall and it works out 160 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: really well. He fits the scheme well. He he's improved 161 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: as a blocker, he's made plays underneath, and then certainly 162 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: when the time came for him to get that pass 163 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: in the end zone, a rocket that Aaron Rodgers just 164 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: shot at him. He was able to bring that in 165 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: in a big momentum, really ceiling type play for this offense. 166 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: But he goes beyond that. It goes back to Jamal 167 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: Williams as a complimentary piece. It goes back to a 168 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: guy like MVS, who I think was written off by 169 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: a lot of people last year. MBS is averaging twenty 170 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,439 Speaker 1: two yards of catch right now. I mean there is 171 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: a home run power with him that you just can't find. 172 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,559 Speaker 1: And as I wrote in in inbox this week, I mean, 173 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: could the Packers have benefited from drafting receiver Absolutely, with 174 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: that of receivers still had an uphill climb to beat 175 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: out these top three guys on the step chart. Absolutely, 176 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 1: that would have been an investment in the future. That 177 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 1: wouldn't have been an answer for two thousand twenty. Brian 178 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: Goodkin's know what he was doing. He did go and 179 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: get Devin Funch just to help out, to to be 180 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: able to round that room out, give them some depth. 181 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: When that didn't work out, though, he didn't panic. He 182 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: stuck with what they already had and they've built the 183 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: offense around it. Now, you hope for the Packer's sake 184 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: that Davante Adams the hamstring injury isn't a big thing 185 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: going forward. Matt Laflour kind of played it off on 186 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: Monday that it was something a decision that was made 187 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: because of the way the offense was producing and the 188 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: fact the Packers were in the driver's seat. Maybe things 189 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: would have been a little bit differently if that was 190 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: a tightly contested game. But if Adams is fine and 191 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: you have Aaron Jones going off the way he's going 192 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: off right now, this offense has plenty of playmakers, there's 193 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: not an issue with there with that. Well, on the 194 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball, it was a very interesting 195 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: game because the Packers defense got off to about as 196 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: slow a start as you could. The Lions took the 197 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: ball down the field on their first two possessions seemingly 198 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: with ease, scored two touchdowns. As we said before, they 199 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: were up fourteen to three at to one quarter, But 200 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: then the Packers defense clamped down a bit. The Lions 201 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: only scored seven more points over the final three quarters 202 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: of the game. They had you know, probably you know 203 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 1: around thirty five of their offensive yards just in the 204 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: first quarter, so things really changed. And as we saw 205 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: in Minnesota, this defense also made one of those game 206 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: changing type of plays, and this time it was with 207 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: the Lions backed up near their goal line. Very first 208 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: play of the possession, Channon Sullivan jumps a quick out 209 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: route to Danny Amendola, intercepts the pass and sort of 210 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: slides or dives across the goal line. It goes as 211 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: a seven yard interception return for a touchdown. But this 212 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: defense west The Packers have eighty five points through two games. 213 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: The defense has accounted for nine of them. There's something 214 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: to be said for that. There definitely is Mike and 215 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: one thing, you know, as many yards as the Packers 216 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: ended up giving up in the second half against Minnesota 217 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: and also the first two drives against the Lions, but 218 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: the one thing they've done really well as they played 219 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: disciplined football for the most part. You saw how you know, 220 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 1: really penalties did the Detroit Lions in in this game. 221 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: It's one of the things that backed him up. Also 222 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 1: with a couple coffin corner punts there from j K. 223 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: Scott being able to really win the field position battle 224 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: in the second half, But once they were in those predicaments, 225 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: the Packers defense took advantage of it. I thought Rashawn 226 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: Gary being able to avoid the cut block on Adrian 227 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: Peterson and still put pressure on Matthew Stafford that play 228 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: might be differently, might have played out differently if he 229 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 1: had an opportunity to pull that ball down and Gary 230 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: went to the ground instead, it gets forced out. Sullivan 231 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: makes a great play on the ball, game changing moment 232 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: there down the stretch. After being having a really difficult 233 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 1: time closing out the Vikings, the Packers defense did just 234 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: that in this game. And they did it with their 235 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: their starting defense, in their backup defense. I mean, it 236 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: was incredible the way that that fourth quarter played out. 237 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: Rashawn Gary getting a sack right and backs them up 238 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: forces of three and out. Next possession, they get a 239 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: sack from Vernon Scott and I think might have been 240 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: his first defensive snap in the NFL. You have you 241 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: have Garry also contribute there with Preston Smith, and then 242 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 1: let's be honest, mean, Josh Jackson made a nice play 243 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 1: down the sideline too, in single coverage in what could 244 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: have potentially been a home run type ball. They closed 245 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: this thing out the way you want to see them 246 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: close it out. The big issue here is going to 247 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: be the running defense here. If you don't have Kenny Clark. 248 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: Right now, the Packers are thirtieth in the league when 249 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: it comes to opposing rushing yards. You've got to get 250 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: that down. You can't allow teams to start fast on 251 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 1: the first and second down because that's when you're getting 252 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: in your behind the eight ball on third down. You 253 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: want to get those third and seven plus situations. That's 254 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: when Mike Petton's defense is at its best. And when 255 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: that happens, good things happened for this defense. Yeah, and 256 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: you've mentioned his name a couple of times already. Rare 257 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: Shawn Gary. He was a force on Sunday against the 258 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 1: Detroit Lions. And there it wasn't some big, huge statistical 259 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 1: thing like you know what what Aaron Jones did on 260 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball. Gary did have one 261 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: and a half sex but as you mentioned the pressure 262 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: that he got on the pick six played by Sullivan. 263 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: You look at the defensive film and Gary is just 264 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: a disruptor. He's he bothers the other team on almost 265 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: every single play with with his effort, with his hustle, 266 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: and quite frankly, with just the strength and power that 267 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: he has against offensive tackles, he's showing that he's going 268 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 1: to be a problem for opposing def for opposing offenses, 269 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: excuse me. And that's good news for the Packers. When 270 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: you have guys like the Smiths and like Jayar Alexander 271 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: and Kevin King and Darnell Savage, Adrian NamUs, those other 272 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 1: guys that that were a big part of this defense 273 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: last year. They're all back and now they've got another 274 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: piece in Rashaan Gary. They really do and sixty defensive 275 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: snaps so far, Mike, he has six tackles, one and 276 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: a half sacks, four quarterback hits. So let's look back 277 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: to last season play twoto defensive snaps had three quarterback 278 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: hits during those games. He's already surpassed it and basically 279 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: a fourth of the amount of snaps that he received 280 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: last season. He took his offseason seriously. And the other 281 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: thing I really like is, okay, so you don't have 282 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: Kenny Clark right now. That hurts the defense that that 283 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: isn't good to not have your Pro Bowl defensive tackle 284 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: out there. But they created that Bronco base package where 285 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: they have two defensive tackles lining up as three texts, 286 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: and you have Preston Smith and also Rashan Gary lining 287 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: up on the edges, both solid stout run defenders. That 288 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: allows Zadarius Smith to sort of be that roving fifth 289 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: guy on the front. They were successful out of that package. 290 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: Now they've gotten beat on it a couple of times too. 291 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: But if you're not gonna have Kenny Clark, you're not 292 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: going to be able to replace him in conventional ways. 293 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: You have to do things differently. I like what I 294 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: saw from that package, and I think as much as 295 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: we talk about the dime defense, and that's when these 296 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: you know, pass rushers really make their paycheck, but it's 297 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: those early downs that I think the Packers have a 298 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: strength there with these outside linebackers. They can take advantage 299 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: of that. And for as long as they're gonna be 300 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: missing Kenny Clark, if you have another option that you 301 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: can lean on as far as defending the run, that's 302 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: gonna go a long way and being able to sustain 303 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: this defense for the long run and not just show 304 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: that you're just a base nickel dime defense that you 305 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: can do different variations to really take advantage of potential mismatches. Yeah, well, 306 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: certainly through two games, defensive coordinator Mike Petton has filmed 307 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: the show of his guys of Hey, this is where 308 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: we're in command, where we're dictating to the offense, and 309 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: then hey, this is where we're kind of getting it 310 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: handed to us a little bit, and these are the 311 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: things we've got to shore up. So the Packers defense, yeah, 312 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: it's it's been up and down. I think it can 313 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: be a little bit unsettling to see that. But at 314 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: the same time, you know, with the way this Packers 315 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: offense is going, the Packers defense is going to have 316 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: some time to to work out their issues here. Well, 317 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: Green Bay is two and oh after two games. One 318 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: of five teams in the NFC actually West that are 319 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: two and oh. Chicago Bears are tied with the Packers 320 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: atop the NFC North at two and oh, and then 321 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: three teams in the NFC West, the Cardinals, the Seahawks, 322 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: and the Rams, not the defending NFC champion San Francisco 323 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: forty Niners, but those other three teams in the NFC 324 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: West are all too and oh. Just your thoughts that 325 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: where things stand right now through two weeks. Well, one 326 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: thing is I'm if I'm an NFL team, I'm glad 327 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: I don't play in the West right now. That is 328 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 1: that is a powerhouse division, and I think the the 329 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals are really going to surprise some people. I 330 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: was talking about that last week as we were going 331 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: into the beginning slate of games here. But the one 332 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: thing I like about Green Bay is that for the 333 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: second straight year, you start off two and o in 334 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: your division, and it also coincides up being too and 335 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: no overall. That went a long way last year under 336 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: the thirteen and three regular season. If you pick up 337 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: these wins early in the division, good things are gonna 338 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: happen by the end of the season. It's going to 339 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: keep you not only in the hunt for your division title, 340 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: but it's ultimately what's going to keep you up there 341 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: with the only one uh first round by into the 342 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: playoffs that that competition has just gotten incredibly heightened now 343 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: with the number two seed now having to play a 344 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: wild card game against the number seven seeds. So you 345 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: have to be able to stay out in front of 346 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: this race. It is a marathon, it's not a sprint. 347 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: But we also know if you don't start fast enough, 348 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: it's tough to make up that ground over twenty point 349 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: two miles. I know you're a big runner, Mic, so 350 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: obviously you understand that reference. But no, I mean, this 351 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: is the way it's gonna go. There's going to be 352 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: tough matchups. As we talked about last week. There are 353 00:16:58,200 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: going to be a tough slate of games here, some 354 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: really good quarterbacks coming up on the Packers schedule. But 355 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: the more wins that you pick up here in September, 356 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: the easier your job gets throughout the course of the 357 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: long season. Well, interestingly, one of the teams in the 358 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,479 Speaker 1: NFC that is not to and Oh is the New 359 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: Orleans Saints, the Packers opponent here at the end of 360 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,479 Speaker 1: this week, coming up on Sunday Night Football. And I 361 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: was I was astonished west when I heard during the 362 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 1: Monday night football broadcast when the Saints lost to the 363 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: Raiders to to drop to one and one, that the 364 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints have not been to and Oh to 365 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 1: start a season since. That kind of blew me away 366 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: in a sense, because I'll be honest, nineteen, I think 367 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints have been one of the best 368 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: teams in football and probably the best team over that 369 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,719 Speaker 1: three year stretch in the NFC. Yet they don't have 370 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: an appearance in the Super Bowl to show for it. 371 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: They don't have an NFC titled to show for it. 372 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: And the Saints are sort of right where they always are. 373 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: I guess they're one on one. They're figuring things out 374 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: early in the season. I still think this is going 375 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: to be an incredibly dangerous, dangerous team in the NFC. 376 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: It should be a whale of a game Sunday night 377 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: down in New Orleans. Yeah, I mean, they're gonna it 378 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: hurts them that they're not able to have the fans there, 379 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 1: that that is such a huge advantage for them. I 380 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: think Aaron Rodgers is going to be able to take 381 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: advantage of that, you know, potentially with the snap counts 382 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 1: and and whatnot. But I'll say this, I mean, certainly 383 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 1: they were playing on the road. But one thing that 384 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: was kind of struck me about that game against Vegas 385 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: is that so we'd even saying that Vegas. Uh. What 386 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: struck me about that game is that Drew Brees wasn't 387 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: going off with that quick one to second clock that 388 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 1: he typically goes with. He was holding out of the 389 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: ball a little bit longer, and that there was some 390 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: issues downfield. Now, when you don't have Michael Thomas, certainly 391 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: that's changes the structure of your offense, but he was 392 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: having to really rely heavily on Elvin Kamara. Now we 393 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: got to see what happens with Thomas this week. There's 394 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 1: a long stretch to go from when we're taping this 395 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: on Tuesday to when they play on Sunday night. But 396 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 1: it's just he's such a game changer that I think 397 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: it really structurally just changes their offense when he's not 398 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: out there. So for Drew Brees seeing a game like that, 399 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: a performance like that, up and down throughout, and then 400 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: certainly the Raiders being able to close it out in 401 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 1: the end, it does raise some questions. But the Packers 402 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: have seen him so often and the way he plays quarterback, 403 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 1: the way Philip Rivers plays quarterback. It's given this defense 404 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: even before Mike Petton a lot of fits in the past. 405 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: So it's gonna be a huge challenge and I'm sure 406 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: they're gonna be hungry getting back on their home turf, 407 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 1: trying to bounce back from that loss. Well, I think 408 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: the injury news, everybody is going to be paying attention 409 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: to this week the number one receivers for both teams, 410 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 1: Davante Adams with the hamstring, Michael Thomas from the Saints 411 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 1: with the ankle injury. It is an ankle, right, correct, Okay, 412 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 1: so um yeah, that's what we're gonna be paying attention 413 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: to between now and kick off on Sunday night, and 414 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,719 Speaker 1: we will see if these two high powered offenses are 415 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: at full strength. But with that, we will call it 416 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: a wrap on this edition of Packer's Own Script and 417 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 1: be sure to follow all of our coverage of the 418 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: team on packers dot com. For Wes, I am Mike. 419 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: Thank you for tuning in everybody. We'll see you next time.