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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from coast to coast. Am on

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Speaker 1: iHeart Radio. So Sam Moronto, the state director for Illinois,

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Speaker 1: move on. You've heard my wife Marjorie and my son

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Speaker 1: Guard tell the story about what they saw in the pool.

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Speaker 1: What would your questions be after hearing that something flew

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Speaker 1: overhead as close as three hundred feet and it appeared

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Speaker 1: to be flying in between buildings in Chicago. I think

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Speaker 1: the important thing here is both people, both witnesses. You

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Speaker 1: have two sets of eyes, and I'm curious to find

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Speaker 1: out that was there any reaction to anybody else around

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Speaker 1: the pool? Was there anybody else looking at I'm curious. Well,

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Speaker 1: that was the strange thing to me. We were the

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Speaker 1: two of us, And it was odd how it was

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Speaker 1: just us because we were not freaking out. I just

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Speaker 1: was we were sort of mesmerized by it. Well, you

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Speaker 1: you're like, I've never had seeing a UFO on my

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Speaker 1: bucket list, but I'm gonna put it on my bucket

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Speaker 1: list and cross it off. That was amazing. That makes sense.

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Speaker 1: The funny thing is a small percentage of people, very

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Speaker 1: small percentage of people actually do make a report. Now

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Speaker 1: that increases when you have multiple witnesses, of course, and

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Speaker 1: then it increases more. Say, for instance, you have a

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Speaker 1: flat where something's ongoing and they have a predisposition as

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Speaker 1: to what it was that other people were seeing, then

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Speaker 1: you will have a larger amount. Your highest percentage would

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Speaker 1: be with the mass sighting, where you have a cross

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Speaker 1: section of the demographic, many people are saying it, and

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Speaker 1: then there's a higher percentage, probably closer to five percent

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Speaker 1: when it comes to a mass sighting. Now, in your instance,

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Speaker 1: I think I actually have two reports that are relatively

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Speaker 1: similar to what you saw. And during September, what do

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Speaker 1: you have? I have two reports. One was further west

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Speaker 1: and it was seen in the clouds, and then I

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Speaker 1: have another one that does seem to fit what you're

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Speaker 1: you're explaining again, is it does it seem more nebulous

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Speaker 1: if you were to describe it nebulous meaning the shape

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Speaker 1: of it, Yes, like it's changing and that what would

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Speaker 1: you say, we're just part yeah, exactly that it was

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Speaker 1: the sort of changing nature of its movement, but also

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Speaker 1: its ability to keep it consistent direction. So it was

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Speaker 1: like that actions were propelling it, but it still had

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Speaker 1: that sort of fluidity to it. They described it both

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Speaker 1: immediately as like a jellyfish. Yeah, it was like it

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Speaker 1: was like how you wouldn't Well, it's like how we've

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Speaker 1: all seen when we see bioluminescent animals moved through the sea.

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Speaker 1: It seemed to be swimming to me in that way

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Speaker 1: and that sort of fluid way. Now, the first thing

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Speaker 1: I think is what sort of material can can give

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Speaker 1: of you already thought of it or came up with it,

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Speaker 1: and that would be something like a cellophane or a

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Speaker 1: plastic that is highly reflective and you can get uplifts

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Speaker 1: between buildings. I think you may have covered that in

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Speaker 1: your in your actual thought process, didn't you, well, what

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Speaker 1: was weird about it? And guard be curious if you

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Speaker 1: um of transparency to it and the light as well,

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Speaker 1: and that's why it didn't seem like like a piece

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Speaker 1: if I can interject Dennis Carlin, my friend Dennis Carlin

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Speaker 1: asks was it silent? Did you hear anything? Did not

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Speaker 1: did not hear anything. Um, And that was that was

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Speaker 1: also just you know, it was you heard all the

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Speaker 1: peacefully moving through. Um. We're a part about the light,

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Speaker 1: the light that it was emitting or it felt like

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Speaker 1: um and that would have been maybe a better example

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Speaker 1: of it being highly reflective and therefore reflecting that that source.

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Speaker 1: But the fact that it was almost defying that light

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Speaker 1: source for its own was fairly significant. And again you

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Speaker 1: it's not outside the scope of something that Candy taken

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Speaker 1: a report, which always is everything remains anonymous with us,

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Speaker 1: and I'd like to actually look at it and make

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Speaker 1: a report, make a report later on to your father

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Speaker 1: as far as what we think it is. Well, they're

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Speaker 1: not anonymous anymore. Ye, Well, I'd be honored to do that.

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Speaker 1: And I hope you know that your son campbell Um

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Speaker 1: was that was his immediate call to action for me.

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Speaker 1: He's like, you have to yeah, you have to do it,

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Speaker 1: like and he sent me. He sent me the site

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Speaker 1: um so good and he was like, this needs to

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Speaker 1: be taken seriously. I was like, all right, well, there

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Speaker 1: and then wherever this goes will bring in an update

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Speaker 1: coming up. But it sure was fun to no longer

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Speaker 1: be the only one in the family who had seen

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Speaker 1: if there's different terms for that, what what are the

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Speaker 1: other UFO categorizations that show something that's almost a kind

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Speaker 1: Serpentine um something along that line. But the jellyfish of

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Speaker 1: actually he had a case out in Arizona. It was

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Speaker 1: looked like a combination of a jellyfish and a crab.

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Speaker 1: Gentleman had it recorded as it came down towards them.

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Speaker 1: Very unusual. Holy so he had time missing too, And

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Speaker 1: I said, well, the thing could have taken you, and

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Speaker 1: At least I have a video. Yeah, really well, thank you, sweetie,

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Speaker 1: and I thank you Gar for staying up, both of you,

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Speaker 1: Coast to Coast. The famous Tinley Park incident happened about

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Speaker 1: seventeen eighteen years ago. Yeah, eleventeen years yes, So describe

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Speaker 1: I remember when I was driving to the University of Illinois.

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Speaker 1: I always remember seeing the exits for Tinley Park, like

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Speaker 1: describe the Tinley Park incident. Wow. When we were all

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Speaker 1: I think they got the date wrong. Underneath it less

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Speaker 1: people think that it was recent, but seventeen years ago.

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Speaker 1: not only because not only because the people in Tinley

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Speaker 1: I haven't heard Lamont or country Club Hills mentioned probably

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Speaker 1: would you say, Sam that of all of the Chicago

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Speaker 1: the both of them are very unique in this sense.

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Speaker 1: The Tinley Park and both Rockford sightings were not just

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Speaker 1: I like to look at a seventy two hour time period.

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Speaker 1: Each of those stretched over not just the state, but

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Speaker 1: many states. In fact, the Rockford sighting we had reports

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, now, the Rockford sighting at seventy two hour

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Speaker 1: periods each way the aganc there was a sighting of

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Speaker 1: the object British Columbia, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, multiple places throughout Illinois,

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Speaker 1: eventually leading into all the way being recorded in Melbourne, Australia.

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Speaker 1: On the I believe it was the twenty third and

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Speaker 1: we have a sixteen hour difference. Yes, So in other words,

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Speaker 1: this isn't something that was an isolated incident. It was.

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