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Speaker 1: Yo, It's about that time, the break forth, the rhythm

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Speaker 1: and the rhyme. Morning Combat is back, folks, and it's

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Speaker 1: back with a bang. Monday, December two, twenty nineteen. Welcome

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Speaker 1: in your boy, vc B Brian Campbell of CBS Sports

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Speaker 1: and the State of Combat podcast. And I'm looking out

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Speaker 1: here at the man in the damn hat your favorite

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Speaker 1: combat sports writer's favorite combat sports writer. It's the athletics,

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Speaker 1: Chuck Middenhall. Chuck, great to see again.

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Speaker 2: You know who braved the elements?

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Speaker 3: I did?

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Speaker 1: You did? Yeah? I mean, I mean seriously, you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying right there? Who had the balls to

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Speaker 1: come out here? I mean, I know everything is fair

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Speaker 1: when you're living in the city and all you have

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Speaker 1: to do is get on a subway to get to

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Speaker 1: where you're going. But I wake up this morning. I

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Speaker 1: look out the window. It's like three inches of snow

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Speaker 1: and ice.

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Speaker 3: I mean, sure, we live in the same state, man, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean, you know, I look in the mirror, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: is it worth it? You know?

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Speaker 3: Who didn't make it here?

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Speaker 1: Let me work it right. I put my thing down,

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Speaker 1: it flipped it, and I reversed it. What were you saying?

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Speaker 2: I said, you know who didn't make it here today

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Speaker 2: because of the weather. Maybe because of the weather. I

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Speaker 2: don't know why he's not here.

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Speaker 1: I heard something about DCF and music choices for infants.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. You're talking about the Great Loop the

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Speaker 1: Great looks. Yeah, like the Redskins all season. He's on

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Speaker 1: a bye week right now. But Chuck, you're a member

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Speaker 1: of this family. You belong in this, in this Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I remember people were actually doing legitimate armageddon bunkers

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Speaker 1: for the Y two K thing. I had le who

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Speaker 1: had one of those rocking out Yeah, had the tank

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Speaker 1: and everything was fantastic. I got up there to make

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Speaker 1: it happen for the dedication for this show. Five thirty am.

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Speaker 1: I'm out there plowing. Uh, I'm out there plowing through

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Speaker 1: lines of white powder like it's a fight week for

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Speaker 1: the first Gustusten fight, you know what I mean. Like

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Speaker 1: I'm out there getting the job done.

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Speaker 1: To get in here, Luke, because it it's still real

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Speaker 1: to me, damn it. But like snow, we are the

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Speaker 1: combat sports informers, right, uh huh. I like it, bum

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Speaker 1: bum down and look, there's no other show like this.

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Speaker 1: We bring it to your raw, real fresh, no punch

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Speaker 1: is pulled, no cringe. We tell it like it is,

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Speaker 1: whether it's Big Luke or Chuck next to me. So

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Speaker 1: for this holiday season, they should probably pay it forward,

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Speaker 1: right I think? So get on out there YouTube subscribe.

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Speaker 1: We want to see these numbers go up. We got

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Speaker 1: that thirty K goal by the new year. But if

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Speaker 1: you want to see Luke topless, we want to get

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Speaker 1: to fifty k. I do you want to see Luke

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Speaker 1: and Chuck go tip to tip? Seventy five k's in

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Speaker 1: our rearview. We got to get bigger. We got to

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Speaker 1: get this show out there. There's a lot of good

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Speaker 1: special surprises.

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Speaker 2: On all at once.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't want to get handsy here so early

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Speaker 1: in the show. But Chuck, before we get into all,

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Speaker 1: we got a big show ahead of you for today.

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Speaker 1: A lot of Connor talk where we's Joshua two out

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Speaker 1: in the desert there. But my favorite holiday this past weekend? Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 1: How'd it go? Brother?

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Speaker 3: It was great?

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Speaker 2: Man? You know there was there wasn't an event, so

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Speaker 2: it felt like an actual Thanksgiving this time four days off,

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Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, So I really can't remember the last time

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Speaker 1: You and the wife carve up a cave up a bird.

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Speaker 1: I protected my money maker though, chuck all right, I

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Speaker 1: I am getting a little washer there, but the Turkey

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Speaker 1: could take part, no religions. It's just about food, football, family, friends.

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Speaker 2: All that's true.

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Speaker 1: Hey, you look pretty happy and awkward here. Do you

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Speaker 1: want to you want to get into the show here

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Speaker 1: or what?

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Speaker 3: Let's do it?

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Speaker 1: All right? So much to talk about in the world

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Speaker 1: of combat sports, and this week we kick off with

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Speaker 1: an announcement we've been waiting on for many a month.

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Speaker 1: Connor McGregor is back. Folks like this show. I think

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Speaker 1: he's back with a bang. It'll come January eighteenth, I

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Speaker 1: believe Las Vegas. Not sure if they narrowed down that site,

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Speaker 1: but it's looking like UFC two forty six. Cowboy Seroni

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Speaker 1: is the opponent for Connor's first appearance since that UFC

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Speaker 3: Medows, have you really been waiting many months for this?

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Speaker 1: I have been waiting so long? How many podcast hours

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Speaker 1: have we filled with this debate, So it's finally here, Chuck.

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Speaker 1: But this fight would have been seemingly even better nine

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Speaker 2: Well, one was when Connor fought. I mean, he's coming

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Speaker 3: It takes a little bit of the shine off of it.

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Speaker 2: But honestly, because they planted the seed four years ago

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Speaker 2: of who the fuke is that guy? Yeah, exactly, I

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Speaker 1: I mean, he hasn't had a win since twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 1: on paper from the standpoint of potential violence and action.

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Speaker 1: You don't need Jake Hager to come in here and

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Speaker 1: tell you that I've got you know, I'm rock hard

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Speaker 1: with emotion here, I've got a phoner, which, by the way,

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Speaker 1: but look you up on paper, these two are gonna bang,

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Speaker 1: and it can accomplish two things at the same time.

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Speaker 1: It's the perfect comeback fight we've been saying all along

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Speaker 1: And then on the flip side, no matter what happens,

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Speaker 3: Right, Well, that's the whole difference, right.

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Speaker 2: I think before if they booked this fight, say two

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Speaker 2: I feel like the sentiment is swung.

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Speaker 3: I feel like Connor.

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Speaker 2: Mcgreth still sees himself as a lottery ticket for anybody

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Speaker 3: You're seeing the two guys.

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Speaker 2: You're seeing a fight where there's no there's no title

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Speaker 2: in plates at an arbitrary weight class of well to weight.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of different elements, but if you're just

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Speaker 2: kind of feel like SERRONI at this point is kind

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Speaker 1: I liked it better when Cowboy was so much hotter

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Speaker 1: nine months ago, when when the Cowboy Dad was back

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Speaker 1: in banging. But look, he always fights alits us and

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Speaker 1: he comes out there swinging, and you know what you're

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Speaker 1: gonna get. In a lot of ways, this can be

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Speaker 1: the perfect Connor comeback fight to rebuild his brand, but

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Speaker 1: it can also be BMF territory and that's what it is.

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Speaker 1: The Only thing missing here is the damn BMF belt.

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Speaker 1: It's got that spirit and that attitude in here. But

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Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about the decision to

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Speaker 1: make it a welterweight fight. Connor. We've only seen him

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Speaker 1: one fifty five And does that math make sense?

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Speaker 1: I probably would. But will this be the best selling

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Speaker 1: You're basically saying Connor, if he wins, is going to

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Speaker 1: That break out the red panties, right, Yes, we're back,

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Speaker 1: Happy holidays. Look, we have a bit of news that

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean. It's just don't they build

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Speaker 2: Send me location Brooklyn, New York.

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Speaker 1: Cannot wait so happy it's happened in our backyard, becoming

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Speaker 1: Well, inject this fight right here, give me some tracks

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Speaker 1: right now, let's do this thing all right. Well, look,

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Speaker 1: Wow. So much of this narrative heading in, and rightfully so,

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Speaker 2: I remember this saying that AJ was on brand, basically

436
00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,440
Speaker 2: making like what is the forty million dollars last year?

437
00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,840
Speaker 2: He was on he was this close coming to America.

438
00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,399
Speaker 2: He's on brand with being like a Ronaldo or a

439
00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,840
Speaker 2: lebron Right, this is the kind of space we were talking about.

440
00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,080
Speaker 2: And there's a lot of people in the boxing realm. Obviously,

441
00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:56,760
Speaker 2: there's a lot of people overseas. This was our first

442
00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,320
Speaker 2: look at him. It's the strangest thing when something like

443
00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:03,080
Speaker 2: this happens because not sure to what, you know, to

444
00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,960
Speaker 2: what length all of that mojo has been shake Like

445
00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:07,680
Speaker 2: where is he at at this point? Is he going

446
00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:09,240
Speaker 2: to come back in some diminished form?

447
00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,080
Speaker 3: That's always the question. Yeah, that's always the question.

448
00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,160
Speaker 2: And I feel like that guy particularly, you know, just

449
00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:17,320
Speaker 2: kind of how he came up and going to a

450
00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,480
Speaker 2: fight which was obviously a late replacement. There was a

451
00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,879
Speaker 2: lot going on there that was kind of unorthodox, and

452
00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,119
Speaker 2: his head wasn't completely into the fight, you know, and

453
00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,880
Speaker 2: then the way it played out it was almost existential,

454
00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,520
Speaker 2: Like you could see him almost embarrassed in real time

455
00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,080
Speaker 2: by his performance. And when you see all of that,

456
00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:33,879
Speaker 2: you just feel like the pressure is on him to

457
00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,680
Speaker 2: try to regain more than just the titles, you know

458
00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:38,919
Speaker 2: what I mean. It's just there's more to it than that,

459
00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:40,600
Speaker 2: and I always feel like that's where the backstory is.

460
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Speaker 1: You nailed it. The pressure is so huge because it's

461
00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,919
Speaker 1: not just about those titles. It's about justifying who he

462
00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,400
Speaker 1: was coming in. That fight was supposed to be a walkthrough.

463
00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,800
Speaker 1: He was supposed to be fighting Jirell Big Baby Miller

464
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Speaker 1: until he failed about eighteen drug tests in Madison Square

465
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Speaker 1: Garden US debut. All of England filled that arena. We

466
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Speaker 1: were there then it was sweet Caroline going all around

467
00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,480
Speaker 1: like crazy, Bob Bob A good times. Well they felt

468
00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:05,359
Speaker 1: so good, so good. But third round until that third round,

469
00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,640
Speaker 1: So he's got to look. I don't think it's out

470
00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,639
Speaker 1: of bounds to say that this fight in some ways

471
00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:15,040
Speaker 1: is make or break for his entire career, meaning should

472
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Speaker 1: aj succomb a second time and lose by knockout when

473
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Speaker 1: you consider the money he has earned to get to

474
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Speaker 1: this point. This guy's selling out eighty thousand Sea Soccer

475
00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:27,200
Speaker 1: stadiums ninety thousand against Clitchkar. I mean, it's just insane.

476
00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,640
Speaker 1: The phenomenon that he became not just in England where

477
00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,680
Speaker 1: he was Olympic star, but he's got the family roots

478
00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:36,119
Speaker 1: in Africa. He became a worldwide global star. If he

479
00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,399
Speaker 1: loses the ghost, maybe go maybe gone.

480
00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,199
Speaker 2: If ed to what though it was like tied to

481
00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,720
Speaker 2: a twenty two to zero record, twenty one knockout Ryley,

482
00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:44,960
Speaker 2: He's like he's putting it all together. He had all

483
00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,280
Speaker 2: the elements, well, the chain of invincibility was the first

484
00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,360
Speaker 2: thing to go. And if he loses it a second time,

485
00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,959
Speaker 2: if he loses a second time, you really wonder to

486
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Speaker 2: what extent.

487
00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:54,359
Speaker 1: I mean, Look, he the reason why this fight is

488
00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,359
Speaker 1: in Saudi Arabia rather than a soccer stadium in England

489
00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,720
Speaker 1: or rather than Cowboy Stadium, and the reason why you look,

490
00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,640
Speaker 1: if you're his own, you probably don't love that it's

491
00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,639
Speaker 1: going on in the afternoon up against the SEC Championship

492
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Speaker 1: on CBS as opposed to you know, at night. But

493
00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,440
Speaker 1: A's getting seventy five million, the report is, that's why

494
00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,000
Speaker 1: it's there. Everybody's cashing in on it. I wonder though,

495
00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:17,600
Speaker 1: if that sort of side location that doesn't seem to

496
00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,520
Speaker 1: favor either guy is the best thing for AJ in

497
00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,320
Speaker 1: this spot, because so much of this fight is going

498
00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,280
Speaker 1: to be mental. You're not going to have the throngs

499
00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,320
Speaker 1: of that British press in the American press at the

500
00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,920
Speaker 1: same time waiting for him to crack and break. And

501
00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,040
Speaker 1: they're doing it in the makeshift fifteen thousand seat outdoor

502
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Speaker 1: stadium in the middle of the desert that just popped

503
00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,520
Speaker 1: up out of Oh my god, because there's so much

504
00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,639
Speaker 1: cash going around that I think it's almost make or

505
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,040
Speaker 1: break for his entire career because with this seventy five million,

506
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Speaker 1: with every piece of money that he's made, if he

507
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,920
Speaker 1: gets knocked out again, he's he might just walk away

508
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Speaker 1: from good.

509
00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,880
Speaker 2: And that's a fight. When it seems like it's an

510
00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,240
Speaker 2: inevitability that you're going to win. Is when you go

511
00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,080
Speaker 2: in with the air of the fluke that you just lost.

512
00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:56,680
Speaker 2: People are now talking about a fluke. It's almost like

513
00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,240
Speaker 2: they're doing in the exact same thing. They're saying, it's

514
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Speaker 2: a fluke. But he was losing on you. How did

515
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:02,479
Speaker 2: you have the fight score? Because I felt like he

516
00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,159
Speaker 2: was losing on all he was he was and I

517
00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:05,920
Speaker 2: mean it's one of those situations like that's not really

518
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,199
Speaker 2: a fluke. I know that when you said the equilibrium

519
00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,880
Speaker 2: shot it changes things, but I don't know. I mean,

520
00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 2: to me, it's like there's a lot to be I.

521
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,399
Speaker 1: Mean, I've seen many a guy in boxing get hit

522
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,439
Speaker 1: right in the air or behind it and you're just

523
00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,280
Speaker 1: never the same. You got to actually credit aj in

524
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,359
Speaker 1: the spot. He gutted out another three four rounds. But

525
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,480
Speaker 1: you go back and The Zone has a has a

526
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,479
Speaker 1: really good documentary on it called one night that they

527
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 1: have about that fight, and it really documents like he

528
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 1: just wasn't himself the rest of that fight and he

529
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,359
Speaker 1: gutted it out. To me, that's the same level Fluke

530
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Speaker 1: in a way of Lennox Lewis getting one shot by

531
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Speaker 1: Oliver McCall or one shotted by Hassim Rochman, which he

532
00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,359
Speaker 1: invents them both. So the difference in people comparing the

533
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Speaker 1: Andy Ruiz knockout win to like a Tyson Douglas, I

534
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,159
Speaker 1: think it is different, and I don't think it's so

535
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 1: much different from Buster compared to Andy, even though.

536
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 3: That's maybe just in the odds.

537
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 1: I think it's that Tyson, like Ronda Rousey's so invincible

538
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,600
Speaker 1: that when you pull that air of invincibility away from them,

539
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 1: you find out what they're really made of. And both

540
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 1: people were in some ways never the same. Tyson still

541
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 1: had a career obviously, but Aj has been Look, he's

542
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 1: not a perfect fighter or boxer by any means. It's

543
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,440
Speaker 1: a great finisher when he gets you hurt. He can

544
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 1: handle the star power in the in the in the

545
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 1: pressure that comes with it, but he's been vulnerable in

546
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,880
Speaker 1: some of his biggest wins. He got knocked down by Klitschko,

547
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,119
Speaker 1: he got hurt, bight, he got hurt by Dillian White,

548
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 1: he got you know, he got rocked by Carlos Tackum

549
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 1: early in that fight. He had that boring, long fight

550
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 1: in which he outpointed Joe Parker. So maybe it's gonna

551
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 1: be easier for him to bounce back because he's been

552
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:34,120
Speaker 1: through something, been through some vulnerabilities where look spoiler alert.

553
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 1: If I'm handicapping this fight, I think the odds maker's

554
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 1: got it right. I like AJ in this rematch. The

555
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:39,879
Speaker 1: key is going to be to use that jab and

556
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,400
Speaker 1: create distance, because let's not forget that one punch from

557
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 1: Andy Ruiz changed the whole night to the ear. But

558
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,720
Speaker 1: it was because he got inside the jab and was

559
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 1: able to land that shots. If AJ can get in

560
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 1: a great mental space and rely on that jab, he

561
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,920
Speaker 1: does have the size advantage and the reach. Is Andy

562
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,000
Speaker 1: Ruiz a better pure boxer, Yes, But Andrew Ruiz has

563
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 1: never been the to take his nickname the destroyer that

564
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,159
Speaker 1: he was in that fight. I know he rose to

565
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,120
Speaker 1: the occasion with no pressure on his biggest night. He's

566
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 1: not Buster Douglas. He's more polished. You've been on the

567
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,679
Speaker 1: title level before. But he's also not a killer. So

568
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 1: I do think the door is open here for AJ

569
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 1: to put the chain back on the tracks.

570
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 2: Right, like smell the blood in the water. He kind

571
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,399
Speaker 2: of just kind of went crazy finishing, you know what

572
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 2: I mean. I just I feel like he'll be a

573
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 2: little more cautious in a situation like that.

574
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 1: And you know, some of the things about AJ that

575
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,679
Speaker 1: people got wrong after that fight was that, oh, he

576
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 1: was never so good to begin with, He was never

577
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 1: this to that. Look like, go back and look at

578
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 1: the winds he's gotten. I mean, he's beaten a clitch

579
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 1: Goo Adillion White to Joe Parker, all those guys. This

580
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 1: is his big opportunity and the Sultans are going to

581
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 1: be swinging, you know, like this is this is gonna

582
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 1: be a big time. I'm fired up for it. And

583
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 1: so you got any prediction that people want to know going, No,

584
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,439
Speaker 1: I'm not going I'll be in my on my couch here.

585
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 3: I am leaning him.

586
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 2: I mean, I just I think that anything he was

587
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 2: caught by surprise, like he'll have time to then figure out.

588
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 2: So anything that happened in that first fight, I take

589
00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 2: it a little bit with.

590
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,159
Speaker 3: A grand salt. I guess I am tending, not fluke.

591
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 2: I hate that word because, like I said, he was

592
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 2: not winning the rounds and there was some excituay service,

593
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 2: but I feel like he'll he'll have it solved this time.

594
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: By the way, you should check out at the Zone

595
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 1: doctor see Mike Tyson just I want to off the walls.

596
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 1: He was great that I do want to talk quickly

597
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 1: and we did mention Wilder saw aj Aj is gonna

598
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 1: do it. I think he's gonna get a late stopa Jackson.

599
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna box beautifully and set that up.

600
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 1: Ruiz at some point is gonna have to go for broke.

601
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 1: I think he runs into something Fury Wilder two on

602
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 1: the horizon. It's gonna be interesting to see what happens

603
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 1: with the victor on Saturday. Look, if aj wins, you

604
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 1: kind of go back into position oh six is mandatory

605
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 1: on that side to his own friendly fighter. But Dillian

606
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 1: White is gonna be on his undercard, and we know

607
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,239
Speaker 1: they had that fun fight the first time around their

608
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 1: amateur rivals. What can be crazy is if Andy Ruiz

609
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: wins on Saturday for the second time. Because he's a

610
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,640
Speaker 1: PBC fighter who would be taking those three or four

611
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,680
Speaker 1: heavyweight titles going back to show Time and Fox on PBC,

612
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,679
Speaker 1: and then you could presumably put him in there against

613
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,919
Speaker 1: the winner of wilder're Fury two for all the belts,

614
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 1: big time. This want the heavyweight division we're not talking about.

615
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 1: He brought them off things in uh Leakovich and all

616
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 1: these old names of alts.

617
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,400
Speaker 3: So this last year is it's all opened up again.

618
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: Man, Well this Saturday, there is more boxing than just

619
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 1: what's going on in Saudi. Showtimes back with a card

620
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:12,719
Speaker 1: in Brooklyn. Luke and I are going to be at

621
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 1: this weekend. You want to check it out. WBC Midway

622
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,880
Speaker 1: champion Jamal Charlo, one of the rising stars in the sport,

623
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 1: is back in a very interesting test against Dennis Hogan. Now, Chuck,

624
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,360
Speaker 1: we saw Hogan in his last bout, very controversial decision

625
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,120
Speaker 1: loss to Haimi Mungia. This is a guy that can fight.

626
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 1: This is a guy that can test him. I'm gonna

627
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 1: be looking forward to how Charlo comes out there and relax.

628
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 1: It's been it's been an interesting year for the Charlos,

629
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 1: going back to last December. I remember his brother Jamel

630
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 1: lost the one fifty four title of Tony Harrison. They're

631
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 1: gonna have a rematch in December. Jamal went almost life

632
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 1: or death with Matt Korobov in a very interesting fight.

633
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna have to watch the comin event

634
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: on Saturday. You could be finding yourself a new Charlo

635
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 1: opponent in the future. Chris Ubank Junior gonna be in

636
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 1: there against Matt Korobov and that's gonna be a funny.

637
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 1: We love the U Banks. How good is Chris Eubanks

638
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 1: Senior to just put him out there in front of

639
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: a microphone. I mean, the guy is just so poetic

640
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: and just you know, and.

641
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 3: It's not just one poem.

642
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 2: The guy has like he can flip through his cards

643
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 2: and he's keeking pull opinions.

644
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 1: I mean, he's great. But Chris you Banks Junior can bang.

645
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: He's a fun fighter. But Beck to just Jamal Tarlo quickly.

646
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 1: These Charlos man, you put them in front of a microphone,

647
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 1: they make things happen. You put them in a ring,

648
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 1: They take fool souls, they can punch, they can box.

649
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 1: I think both guys are sort of waiting to bust

650
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Speaker 1: out and be that pound for pound talent you down

651
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,239
Speaker 1: for lines only I'm down. All right, you're gonna you're

652
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: gonna be tuning in on Saturday as well. My big stuff,

653
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: big time business coming around in boxing and in them.

654
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Speaker 3: See.

655
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Speaker 2: I like I like this show because I get to

656
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Speaker 2: watch more boxing and it's required to watch them.

657
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 3: Boxing to watch them pro wrestling too. Oh see, that's

658
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 3: where I draw the line.

659
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get a sweat ragon here. The lack of

660
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: flowing air is really getting to me this week. All right,

661
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 1: back on the MMA side, we have a card this

662
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 1: Saturday going down in Luke Thomas's backyard when ufc DC

663
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 1: invades the nation's capital. We got a heavyweight man event

664
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Speaker 1: with Alistair Ovarim against let me get this right, the

665
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: rising gyre Rosenstrouke.

666
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 3: Correct. I think that's pretty close.

667
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: Close gyr Xenial Rosenstroke. Anyway, Chuck, give me a headline

668
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: from this weekend that you're looking forward to check it

669
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Speaker 1: out besides that one, well, or that one hit me

670
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 1: up with it.

671
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 2: I think this fight is all designed basically for Rosenstrouke

672
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 2: to shine, right, I mean he gets the fill in

673
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 2: and it's unfortunate circumstances. Will Walt Harris and everything's going

674
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 2: on there. He could he gets to come in here,

675
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 2: but everybody's got their eye on him. And who was

676
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 2: the last guy to stack up Arlovsky and over Eem

677
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 2: and back to back fights Francis and Ganem and he

678
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 2: got a title shot right after that. So I'm telling

679
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 2: you that this it kind of has that kind of

680
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 2: you know, both those guys have names, and he just

681
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 2: he just did that and within a month's time, right

682
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 2: like he just had Arlovski. Now he goes in, he

683
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 2: gets oveream and I feel like if he's able to

684
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 2: do something, it's going to be a nice showcase for him.

685
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 2: If he's able to do you know, a big knockout,

686
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 2: like we know he has his power. If he does that,

687
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,120
Speaker 2: I could see him make ways. I woudn't want se

688
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 2: him in the title fight, but you could put him

689
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 2: against there's a lot of st He's still early, but

690
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 2: I think that you could. You would definitely have a

691
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 2: guy at that point that would you would have marketing

692
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,120
Speaker 2: a bill because you're putting him in the main event.

693
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 2: It's a nice spot for him. If he does that,

694
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 2: I feel like he can really boost his stock into

695
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 2: that top seven eight space. You know.

696
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: Now Olverim's been around forever, thirty nine years old, did

697
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: make Stipe tap once, but he is on a two

698
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 1: fight win streak. Maybe not against household names unless you

699
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: lived in the Dagistan Caucus area. But this is the

700
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: right test to find out who Jay Erzeno actually is

701
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: good enough for a main event there. But when you

702
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 1: look at other storylines there, I'm always looking down the

703
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: card to see what they got banaweight fight. I need

704
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 1: to see on the women's side, when Aspen Ladd comes

705
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: out first fight since that controversial stoppage loss against GDR,

706
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: and we know Durandomy has moved on to a title shot,

707
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: so that sort of shows you how close Lad was

708
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: in a very shallow division would be the best way

709
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: to say it. Yeah, get former title challenger Yana Kunitskaya

710
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: in front of her. What's really a stackcare for Aspen

711
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: in your eyes?

712
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 2: I mean it could who knows. I think it could

713
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 2: be something like a title shot. You know, it really

714
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 2: depends because I think that Aspen Lad it was smart

715
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 2: and one way also very distracting for her too. Kind

716
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 2: of test her last fight and and raise awareness because

717
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 2: it almost puts an asterisk on it. You feel like

718
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 2: it wasn't quite on the up and up, even though

719
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 2: it was. You know, it's like, but I feel like

720
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 2: she can kind of get by with it. She was

721
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 2: twenty four years old, she was undefeated. She doesn't have

722
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 2: a ton of fights. But if she goes in there

723
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 2: and she has a nice finish in this one, or

724
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 2: just a great presentation where she dominates.

725
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 3: The fight, I could see her being right back up there.

726
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: Look, and I were talking last week on one of

727
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: the DMS for Donks from Donks when our people came

728
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: in with their own questions and they were like, you know,

729
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: after GDR, what would be next for Nuna's And you're

730
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: sort of like, in both divisions it's shallow. So does

731
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: UFC kind of need ask beIN aloud to put the

732
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Speaker 1: train one?

733
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 3: I think that they wanted her to.

734
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 2: I don't think they wanted GDR because it's like one

735
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 2: of the you know, you know, the whole situation there.

736
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 2: I honestly didn't think Duranime would ever get a title

737
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 2: shot again after the whole thing that happened at Featherway.

738
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 2: So that tells you just that alone that they booked

739
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 2: her into the next Sidle fight, how desperate they are

740
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 2: to kind of get contenders rolling through.

741
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: A couple other fights and no, I mean you got

742
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: Stephan Struve against Ben Rothwell, if you like it extra sloppy,

743
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: there can throw that on there anybody else you're looking

744
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: at there Stroop.

745
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 3: Coming back after that long hiatus of.

746
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,959
Speaker 1: The skyscraper fell down, took a nap. He's back up.

747
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: He's ready, he's ready for that. You were telling me

748
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: you're fired up about Matt Wyman, though.

749
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 3: I am a little bit fired up. Matt Wyman.

750
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 2: He's one of those guys who came in at UFC sixty.

751
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 2: He broke through on the Ultimate Fighter five with guys

752
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 2: like Gray Maynard and.

753
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: An eight long time ago. Yes, Paul Miller.

754
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 2: I mean like he's been around, but then he disappeared

755
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 2: for like a four year span. And have you ever

756
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 2: talked to him?

757
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: Never?

758
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 2: This is one of the craziest, Like I don't I'm

759
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 2: not crazy like crazy, but he's like almost a hermit

760
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 2: in a fight game, like he just kind of hides away,

761
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 2: doesn't have social media. He you know, he's very very aware,

762
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 2: like if he's eating something, he'll eat everything that he

763
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 2: doesn't waste.

764
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Speaker 3: You know.

765
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,239
Speaker 2: He told me a story about wanting to disappear out

766
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 2: the back, you know, during his fights, because he gets

767
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 2: so scared. Just a completely different cat, and he has

768
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 2: been gone so long. He showed up. He resurfaced a

769
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 2: couple of months ago against Louis Pana. He got beat

770
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 2: up pretty bad. First five years, first fight four or

771
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 2: five years or something like that. I don't get the message.

772
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 1: So you have to run the pigeon from what happened,

773
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: what was going on in the break injuries.

774
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 2: The truth of the matter is, like I think it's

775
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 2: just too he just kind of took a break, That's

776
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 2: all it was.

777
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: I'm still waiting for Dustin Hazlet to get off the

778
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: AMT circuit and moment come back. That was my guy

779
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: back in the day.

780
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 2: Where's TJ Grant? I keep saying this, Where's TJ Grant Now?

781
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 2: But I'm always interested in Matt Wyman. He's just such

782
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 2: a different kind of character and I want to see

783
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 2: him man, because I feel like that probably devastated him

784
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 2: a little bit in that last fight, So I want

785
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 2: to see how he rebounds this this coming weeknd.

786
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: Well, we hit you up with the Big Time boxing

787
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: and MMA coming up this weekend. You had to believe

788
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: there was a circus carnival fight as well to get

789
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: me excited. This is PLAUSEI pro wrestling here.

790
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 2: Wow, I just sort of thump.

791
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: That's how I do it, right. This is a funky

792
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: introduction of how nice I am. Here. Tell your mother

793
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: send a telegram. This Saturday, come bate America's MMA. We'll

794
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: have that promotion's biggest card to date in a pay

795
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: per view Emanating from McCallen, Texas. I believe it's hashtag

796
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: what side are you on? What side of the border?

797
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 1: I'm not really sure, but we're going to see you

798
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: as we're going to see UFC legend t too or

799
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: Te's take on former WWE champion l Berto El Patron

800
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: slash Del Rio slash Dose carros J. We're going with

801
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: Alberto and Chuck. This is seemingly from the Bellator playbook.

802
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: Tito's forty four, Alberto's forty two, and he's nine years

803
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: removed from the MMA cage. I like it extra sloppy.

804
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: What's your what's your interest?

805
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 2: Like this? Sloppy?

806
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 3: This is pretty sloppy, man.

807
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: Is there anything to take from this?

808
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 3: I mean.

809
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 2: From a strict level of fun, like I guess like

810
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,719
Speaker 2: our sloppy fun however you want to look at it, okay,

811
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 2: but it is obviously like a very blatant's let's pin

812
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 2: a couple of names on there these guys, it doesn't matter.

813
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 2: Just brush off their names, these relics, and throw them

814
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 2: against each other and see what happens. I mean, you know,

815
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 2: the truth of the matter is if you like a

816
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 2: car crash, I feel like that's kind of what you're

817
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 2: getting here.

818
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: Well, Alberto has had fourteen profights, he's nine and five overall,

819
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: we're doing.

820
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 2: Our best, best end of decade things. And this guy

821
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 2: last fight fought in twenty ten, so it's like you're

822
00:32:58,600 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 2: going all that way.

823
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: Back the whole. But we most remember him for that

824
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: one time he went into the Pride cage wearing a

825
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: pro wrestling mask jay in the back. Do you have

826
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: it when does Karras Junior went in there against crow Cop?

827
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: Oh my god, and and uh look at the knee pads,

828
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: look at the This was back when he was wrestling

829
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: in Mexico. He wanted to protect his identity as a

830
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: he's a third generation legend pro wrestler, and crow Cop said,

831
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: left kick hospital and we'll leave it there because Uh wow,

832
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: remove the mess, don't show it? So all right? Put

833
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: it look okay For the promotion, it's an opportunity to

834
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: get eyeballs on it, show some of their younger fighters.

835
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: They haven't really hit their mark yet in the US, right,

836
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: They're they're going after the Hispanic American audience. This is

837
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: potentially a good opportunity for them. But as far as

838
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: like what this fight's actually going to look like, the

839
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: problem is Tito's been active in the But can I

840
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: make a case for Alberto to be competitive here? Totally crazy,

841
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: six foot five, they're doing it at a two hundred pounds,

842
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: actually has an amateur wrestling background, was a near Olympian

843
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: for Mexico, and after round in an MMA cage, is

844
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,240
Speaker 1: that enough to tell you that he lasts around?

845
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 2: I think so.

846
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: Besides, I mean, you know he's probably.

847
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 2: Tito says that he could beat John Jones right now, man,

848
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 2: I mean, that's how good he feels.

849
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,919
Speaker 3: So it's one of those situations where when we get that.

850
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 1: We had talking about. When Tito says publicly in interviews,

851
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 1: I can beat John Jones right now, most people you're

852
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 1: just thinking, oh, it's a way to stay right, What

853
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: is he actually thinking, I.

854
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 2: Don't know, because we've everything he says is just kind

855
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 2: of out there at this point, and nobody really takes

856
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 2: some seriously.

857
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 3: They haven't for years, right, like this whole decade.

858
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 1: So I'm going to be finding you do love this.

859
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: I'm going to be finding a legal stream for that

860
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: on Saturday, and I'm going to be checking this out.

861
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: I urge you to buy that as well. Had a

862
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: bunch of these guys in my pocket from Max Bretos

863
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: calling that really for cambat America in a long time.

864
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: I love Max, by the way, Yeah, shout out to

865
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Speaker 1: that man. Indeed, all right, that's it for the biggest

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Speaker 1: topics of the week to get you fired up. Now,

867
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Speaker 1: we want to hear from you in our segment called

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Speaker 1: D I gotta burd pull up in our segment called DM,

869
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Speaker 1: some donks Hello all right here by by the way,

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Speaker 1: shout out to uh, shout out to the tea today

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Speaker 1: MEBA music guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh I got there.

873
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Speaker 1: I want you to know that somebody tell Jeong Way

874
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Speaker 1: Lee that boogey woman is coming here we go. And

875
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Speaker 1: I don't know if you've been on her I page,

876
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Speaker 1: but she may not be the only one. All right,

877
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Speaker 1: let's hit off these questions. We start off with Henry

878
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Speaker 1: dot Boy eleven, What would you sacrifice to see Tony

879
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: So I guess they're saying to see it actually happen

880
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: to see in April in Brooklyn, this fight finally take place, Chuck,

881
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: what would you personally sacrifice?

882
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 3: I feel like I've sacrificed so much already.

883
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 2: I've spent so many, so much time talking about it

884
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 2: and writing articles. Was back at the ringer? Are you

885
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 2: writing these big articles that basically became obsolete the moment

886
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 2: it would fall apart. I've given a lot to this man.

887
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 2: I feel like I deserve it. At this point, I

888
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 2: have nowhere else to go.

889
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right? You wouldn't sacrifice a kidney at

890
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: this point? You about your left pinky anything like that? No? Nothing?

891
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: Maybe the tip, just the tip just for say, right,

892
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: all right, shout out to I would I would?

893
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 3: Would you give?

894
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: Would you give your hair? Oh?

895
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 2: The way?

896
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 1: Ye got? All right, let's go on to the next

897
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: one here never even answered. Heavy dot Falcon chimes in

898
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: this week in what fashion does dom Reyes need to

899
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: win at UFC two forty seven for John Bones not

900
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: to get an immediate rematch, catastrophic injuries excluded. Uh, what

901
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,760
Speaker 1: would what would stop? Because you know, in modern combat sports,

902
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: like Andrew Ruiz's finding out, you got to beat the

903
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 1: big name champion twice to actually be the real champion.

904
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Speaker 1: So what would stop?

905
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 2: Maybe like a three round dominant domination where one of

906
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 2: the rounds is maybe even almost a ten eight, and

907
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 2: he puts some way in the fourth, like something that

908
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 2: was so one sided that.

909
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: Would send Johnny Bones away for like six months again

910
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 1: somewhere You're.

911
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 2: Like, you would not be interested in a remass. You're

912
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 2: like he had nothing to you know, nothen to offer

913
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 2: dominic grays something like that would be a case for it.

914
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Speaker 1: Maybe have the fight at that intersection in Albuquerque, so

915
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: John will run the whole time? Yeah too soon? All right?

916
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: All right? Yeah, interesting, interesting, interesting question. No, I'll go

917
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Speaker 1: into the I'll go to the deep dark depths. You know,

918
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Speaker 1: I'll follow you into the dark there, all right, all right, Yeah,

919
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: I think it would have to be that. Any other

920
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: situation you got to run that back. John Bones has

921
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,919
Speaker 1: been the dominant champion. Hit us up with the next one,

922
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Speaker 1: Jay from No Limit Cunningham. If Ruiz wins against Joshua

923
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Speaker 1: on Saturday. Does he have the potential to be as

924
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: big of a marketing asset for the Zone as their

925
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 1: biggest names currently referencing AJ now, the problem no Limit

926
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Speaker 1: Cunningham is Ruiz is not a de Zone fighter. He

927
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Speaker 1: took that first fight on three weeks. Notice he is

928
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Speaker 1: now a pretty shiny asset for PBC, which has deals

929
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Speaker 1: with showtime in Fox. Yes, so if so, let me

930
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 1: flip this question around on you, Chuck. How bad is

931
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 1: this for the Zone if AJ loses on Saturday?

932
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Speaker 3: Pretty bad?

933
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Speaker 2: I mean, ultimately it's great though for everybody else right

934
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Speaker 2: like it, it ends up being one of those things.

935
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Speaker 2: I really believe that Ruiz is pretty marketable, and I

936
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 2: felt like people who weren't paying attention to the heavyweight

937
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 2: division at all, say Joshua had just won the way

938
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Speaker 2: he's supposed to, it wouldn't have got the love almost

939
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 2: that fight wouldn't have got the love that it did.

940
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 2: You know, there there were outlets covering it, and there

941
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Speaker 2: I was seeing his name. He was appearing all over

942
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 2: the place, you know. I mean, his.

943
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Speaker 3: Victory tour was was pretty big.

944
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 2: I can imagine him kind of breaking out in a

945
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 2: bigger way I think that it really helps when the

946
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 2: optics are so opposite of the way he fights. His

947
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 2: hands are so much more fat, so he just looks

948
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 2: like this guy who's a shlub, right like. But then

949
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 2: he's able to do this, especially against the guy who's like,

950
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Speaker 2: what six foot six and you see it twice.

951
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,959
Speaker 1: I think that he's a god. I mean, AJ's body

952
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: is a wonderland and you saw that the fact guy

953
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: come in there and take him out. I think for Aj,

954
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: it's interesting. A lot of pundits are kind of saying,

955
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: is he mentally in the right place heading into the

956
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: rematch because he's so openly spent so much money and

957
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: he's almost treated it the win like a lottery ticket,

958
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: buying the giant house, buying the rolls, having the birthday

959
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: party where they're eating. I mean, look, if you when

960
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 1: you're a fighter and you fight your whole career, hoping

961
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 1: one day for that big moment, that big you know, opportunity,

962
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: and you get it, Yeah, of course you're gonna live it, right,

963
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: of course. I don't know what that means for his mindset.

964
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: He seems thinner shape. Everybody loves a story like that,

965
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: but you know, separate from what what it means to

966
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: the networks. For Andy Ruiz, I think he's win or

967
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: lose going to be a fun brand moving forward, and

968
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 1: it's going to be a fun opponent for all of

969
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: the big names because he's just got that everyman thing

970
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 1: because of the way that he won the fight that

971
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: people love. People love seeing fat guys do big things, right, especially.

972
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 2: When they're that odds and you know, going against inevitability,

973
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 2: like an inevitable champion like that. I always think that

974
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 2: those things are big and uh, I just think he

975
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 2: gets bigger though. I think it gets bigger if he's

976
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 2: able to do it again.

977
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Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. Indeed, we got any

978
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Speaker 1: more of these dms from our Donk friends here at

979
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Speaker 1: Jake Avers. With the lack of pay per view numbers

980
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 1: being released since the ESPN Plus deal sneaky, sneaky, how

981
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: do we empirically, Well, that's a Luke Thomas ware determine

982
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 1: who the biggest stars in M M A are.

983
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 2: You know, that is a funny thing. I we talk

984
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 2: about guys like Israel Atasanya now like, oh, he's got

985
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 2: the facts the next big thing, But I don't know

986
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 2: how to gauge it. Anymore. I really don't know other

987
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 2: than kind of where they show up, Like what what

988
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 2: kind of outlet is good Morning America asking him to

989
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 2: come on and announce his next fight.

990
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 3: These are good gauges, right, but you're not seeing that.

991
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 2: And that makes me think that guys like Auta Sonya

992
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 2: are probably maximize their space within the bubble. I'm not

993
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 2: sure how much they transcend beyond it yet. I'm still

994
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 2: not sure. It's a great question. I feel like we

995
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:39,479
Speaker 2: it's harder and harder to figure out who's spec Is it.

996
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: Harder and harder for the fighters to figure that out themselves?

997
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: And is that gonna that? Is that a way for

998
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: the Evil Empire UFC to keep the fighters value down

999
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 1: maybe by not allowing those to go public at all.

1000
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: But they didn't used to allow them, right, it used

1001
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: to be it would leak out.

1002
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 2: And yeah, it's just it is more difficult though, And

1003
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 2: I sometimes think we push a narrative, you know, we

1004
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 2: push these stars. We think they're stars, but they're not

1005
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 2: like you see guys who they seem like they're moving

1006
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 2: the needle. But then when you actually do see that,

1007
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 2: and this is where it gets very hard to figure

1008
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 2: out these days. They just don't do the pay per views,

1009
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 2: you think, and I feel like there's a lot of

1010
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 2: those in play right now. I haven't seen a guy

1011
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 2: come through that's a clean slam dunk star since Connor

1012
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 2: McGregor or you know, Don Rowlsey.

1013
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 3: Obviously nobody has done that.

1014
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 2: John Jones, I feel like was the closest we've come

1015
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 2: and uh and he's still will.

1016
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: Below the Johnny Walker look like a phenomenon to Corey want.

1017
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 2: Guys like that can go because they at least have

1018
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 2: multiple layers of you know, their dynamic in a lot

1019
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 2: of ways, and you kind of want to see how

1020
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 2: far they can go. But losing it's the hardest. The

1021
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 2: hardest part is you got to win, right like, you

1022
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 2: gotta keep winning, you see.

1023
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,479
Speaker 1: Johnny Walker just so told a Brazilian outlet, I saw

1024
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: Aaron bratste Are, one of my favorite MMA folks, tweeted

1025
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 1: out that he wants to fight six to eight times

1026
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 1: next year. In the first fight back, he wants to

1027
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: eight in the first fight back, he wants Chris Widman

1028
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: to avenge the loss for Anderson Silva. He wants to

1029
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: break Wideman's space.

1030
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 2: What is what is this?

1031
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: What is this circus clown doing here?

1032
00:41:59,000 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 3: Can we believe it?

1033
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: Chris Widman alone there?

1034
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 3: Everybody just wants to beat up on Chris.

1035
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: Right, we have one more DM from our faithful donks

1036
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: at TJ nine seven eight. Football on Thanksgiving or NBA

1037
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: on Christmas? Very interesting? Here are you? Do you get

1038
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: more excited about the spotlight matchups that they give you

1039
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: in the NFL on Thanksgiving or NBA? I gotta go

1040
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 1: out gay, you do, because they save a sexy star.

1041
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:25,760
Speaker 3: They're playing in your backyard football.

1042
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 1: I'm playing it. I'm playing the Madden Tournaments after with

1043
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: the Cousins. I'm doing all that. But what the NBA

1044
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: has always done well, I remember Kobe versus shash Is

1045
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 1: make a sort of sexy drama old coach or old

1046
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: player against the former team type of deal, and they

1047
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: save that because the East and West only fight fash

1048
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: each other once for that big moment. NFL, I don't

1049
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 1: feel like each year, you know you're getting the lines,

1050
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 1: you know you're getting the Bears, but it's like there's

1051
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: the one marquee game at the end. Boys, I'm sorry

1052
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: the Cowboys America's team. Thank you Jay, thank you Cowboys.

1053
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 1: Super Fan Number ninety nine coming in right there.

1054
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 2: But what's weird though, is those tradition since I've been alive,

1055
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 2: have been in play. So it's almost like you're always

1056
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 2: watching the line of the Lions in the early game,

1057
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 2: and then you get the Cowboys right, and like it's

1058
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 2: always like who are they playing?

1059
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 3: It becomes a part of the tradition.

1060
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 2: I would still say that I pay more attention to

1061
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 2: the football games, and maybe it's just it speaks more

1062
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 2: of the holiday because you're around the TV a little more.

1063
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 1: Anywhere do you un button the button the top? You

1064
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 1: got to let it all hang out. You gotta let

1065
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:21,280
Speaker 1: that thing breathe.

1066
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 2: Right. But the basketball, one man basketball has just I

1067
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 2: love the NBA, man. I love basketball so like it's

1068
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 2: gotten to the place now where I feel like the

1069
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 2: games have such magnitude and when they do the storylines correctly,

1070
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 2: and you know, you've got so many superstars, the way

1071
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 2: that they've market their stars and everything, it's catching it

1072
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 2: that I would still go right now with Thanksgiving and football?

1073
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 1: Is it really the same though? Without John Menn and

1074
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: the tur Ducan it's not because even I wouldn't eat that,

1075
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 1: and I eat some gross things.

1076
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 2: That was pretty gross. Yeah, that was that went on

1077
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 2: for a long time. I was always circling butt sweat

1078
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 2: and things like that on.

1079
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Speaker 1: The Yeah, I don't get And then he would show

1080
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: the turkey.

1081
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 3: And you're like, this is not a good two.

1082
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 1: Guys touching tips. That might move me, but I don't

1083
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: know about that right there? All right, thank you for

1084
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: your questions. Donks. Please subscribe to our show, continue to

1085
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: send your thoughts and question one guy, oh, one guy.

1086
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: I don't have his name off the top of my

1087
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: head here I want to. I'll add my own DM

1088
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: for don because this guy is all over my Instagram dms.

1089
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 1: With all the talk of Luke going crazy over cannibal

1090
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 1: corpse or eating children, Jay Winchell has hit me up

1091
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 1: about eighty seven times talking about ask Luke, But Luke's

1092
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 1: not here, Chuck, all right, is Tool really the greatest

1093
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: rock band in history? Tool?

1094
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 3: I definitely like him.

1095
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: This is where he's going with this, the greatest greatest

1096
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: hard rock outfit of the nineties.

1097
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 3: Probably, Okay. I do like Tool a lot. Man, you

1098
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 3: like Tool, I like me some.

1099
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: Tool they I was, I'm I'm under I've never gone deep,

1100
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I've never gone deep. But

1101
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: I was in response to this question, having some beers

1102
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: on Saturday night overm my neighbor's house. He's got this

1103
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 1: giant stereo system. We can turn it up to eleven

1104
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: and we put on some old school tool and I was,

1105
00:44:58,719 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 1: you're not joking me.

1106
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 2: So you go to station, you know, want things injecting

1107
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 2: your amains. I hear about your private life and it's like.

1108
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 1: We were drinking, right, we're drinking Treehouse too. Treehouse the

1109
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: best brewery in the world. Shout out to those folks

1110
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,479
Speaker 1: in the Massachusetts forest. All right, that's it for donk

1111
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: DM questions this week. Thank you Jay Winchell, you got

1112
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 1: your voice heard. Now we're gonna do Chuck a little

1113
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 1: thing called my favorite segment of the week. Have you

1114
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: seen this shit? Eh?

1115
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 3: This is my favorite as well, Chuck.

1116
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: You know how it works. We searched the globe to

1117
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: find the good, the bad, the ugly, the most bizarre

1118
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 1: from combat sports this weekend. It was a holiday weekend.

1119
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: There weren't many big fights. But if you want to

1120
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: see a good fight Friday mornings on Black Friday, be

1121
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: there when the store is open. Because I don't care

1122
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 1: what race, creed, color, origin, religion, anything like that you

1123
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: come from. If you are showing up at Black Friday

1124
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: and you're fighting people over at TV, you are the

1125
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 1: bottom of the food chain. That was very Luke Thomas

1126
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: y and of me right there. But we got an

1127
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 1: interesting fight here. People used to just fight it out

1128
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 1: with their fists. Now people bring mma to the Black

1129
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: Friday fights. Look at this chicks guard right here. Whoa,

1130
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: she's putting her in hell's gate? Can you pick this.

1131
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 2: Down for me? Where is this that?

1132
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,399
Speaker 1: Oh my, that is a jay in my ear Jiu

1133
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 1: jitsu specialists jay in my ear telling me, of course

1134
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 1: it's a triangle choke. But you know, in my day,

1135
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: you used to just used to swing for the fences.

1136
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 2: One the woman on the bottom, like, don't.

1137
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 1: I think she would have tapped her maybe maybe a

1138
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: couple more seconds put her asleep, right, that's amazing that

1139
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: chicken the blacks got.

1140
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 2: To feel rather than helping somebody's filming this, the.

1141
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: Chicken the black pants gotta feel like chill sounding there

1142
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 1: around five, right, Like I've come this far to victory

1143
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 1: and this.

1144
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 2: Is what prompted this. I mean you you kind of

1145
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 2: get the gist just watching it.

1146
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: By the way. Yeah. And I couldn't put up the

1147
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 1: traditional Black Friday fights because it's just such a and

1148
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: you think, I think so. It's such a poor representation

1149
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: of our society.

1150
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 2: Chuck.

1151
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: Okay, people just brawling over like stuff, little kids getting trampled.

1152
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 1: I don't like it. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not

1153
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 1: done with that. I'm not down. I mean, happy Cyber

1154
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: Monday to you. They they created that to for safety purposes,

1155
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 1: all right.

1156
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 2: I'm not.

1157
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 1: I'm not done with that. All right, we got to

1158
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 1: roll on here. I want to take you to absolute

1159
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 1: muay Thai fifty one. I want to show you a

1160
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 1: little bit of matrix defense from this fellow that Oh

1161
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: my god, wow, you think it took the blue pillar

1162
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,720
Speaker 1: of the red one. Look at that.

1163
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 2: That is amazing, man.

1164
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: That is how you avoid death and bounce right back

1165
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: with the lefto. No no contact though, maybe just the

1166
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: tip of that.

1167
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 3: Wow. See that's beautiful.

1168
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: That is that is timing. That is confidence in your defense.

1169
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 1: Right if I think if I tried to make a

1170
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: movie like that, my spine would collapse. Look at that

1171
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: right there. That's fantastic. All right, Chuck, I want to

1172
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 1: roll on here. You're from Colorado, And in any town

1173
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: that you grow up in, there's always some scrawny dude

1174
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: who buys a motorcycle and he thinks he's tough and

1175
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 1: you're and you know, like, he thinks he can fight

1176
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: because of it, and you're like, what's he gonna do?

1177
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: Get off the motorcycle knocking soullll my god, you're saying,

1178
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: Vin Diesel, this is motorcycle manhowk check that shit out?

1179
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 2: Both those guys fell so fast.

1180
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 3: I didn't even see what he threw there.

1181
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,280
Speaker 1: How many times you see a dude on a motorcycle

1182
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, f off whatever he put it in park,

1183
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: get off the bike, left hand. Oh wow, I'm sorry.

1184
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 1: Guy in the black T shirt, you've been sent to hell.

1185
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 2: Wow, Like.

1186
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: I think he stole his wallet. That that's a the

1187
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 1: future and keep the clock clock rolling. Wow, that is

1188
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 1: some killer. That guy's the first guy is like that

1189
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 1: guy's how cold that is? Wow? Imagine if you're that girlfriend,

1190
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, okay, one more time. Look at this.

1191
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 2: Started it though.

1192
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 1: Look at that no jab either. He's going right for

1193
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:26,839
Speaker 1: the money punch.

1194
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 3: Oh wow, that's when you're wearing a helmet too. It's like.

1195
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: Hurt. Who thinks all we do is heckle people on

1196
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: the show that gets knocked out, right, We do more

1197
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: than that. We do a lot of dick jokes too.

1198
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 1: All right, I want to roll on here. Global superstar

1199
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: Canelo Alvarez was on vacation in Thailand over the weekend. Hey,

1200
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 1: fok it, right, when you got that kind of money,

1201
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: do it? He was in fuck it and he was

1202
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: on top of this elephant's nose. But I want to

1203
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 1: zoom in here, Jay and the beck Chuck, what are those?

1204
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 1: What the hell are those? Come on, Canelo? Man, you've

1205
00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: got thirty five million reasons not to wear ship like that.

1206
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 1: I know, the doll Chakeabona, they probably cost more than

1207
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: this whole set. But you got any comments on this? Shook?

1208
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 2: I think that when you ascend to a certain kind

1209
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 2: of status, yeah, you just do whatever. Though you want

1210
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 2: his own executives like get him down? I mean were hose?

1211
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: Well yeah, well he's talking about the fish nets. Where

1212
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: are you going with this? Yeah? He had a whole

1213
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: little different he had in different area. Yeah, all right, wow, Canelo,

1214
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: that's my wife would kill me if I left the

1215
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 1: house wearing that.

1216
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 3: I can appreciate it. I think that's you know, it's

1217
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 3: his style. Style.

1218
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: He's got his wife's eyes tattooed on this forum. I

1219
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 1: know we talked about that a lot, but that's dedication.

1220
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,720
Speaker 1: That is that the man that's keeping the marriage bed sacred.

1221
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 1: So shout out to Big Red right there. Have you

1222
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: seen this ship, Chuck? I want to take you to

1223
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: Infusion Live. Oh my god, shades of Rocky Too and

1224
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 1: Fat or Mittrion. It's a double knockdown. Never you cannot

1225
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: tie this.

1226
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 3: It's what are the odds of this happening? Because you

1227
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 3: both have to land with enough force?

1228
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 1: Right?

1229
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1230
00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: Well one guy's dead. Crazy Wow, I like how that?

1231
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 1: I get right up? Do you win if you if

1232
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: you stand up, you win.

1233
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 3: I think you stand up, you win in that situation.

1234
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 1: Is this guy trying to count to? I mean, the

1235
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 1: guy's not moving. I think he's done. I think we

1236
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 1: can get him out of here.

1237
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 2: The one guy guy's got knocked out. The other guy

1238
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 2: got knocked out.

1239
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: So do you watch a lot of Infusion Live.

1240
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 3: Oh man, you know I've missed actually I missed all

1241
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 3: of them.

1242
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 1: So far, but I'm sure you can pick it up

1243
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 1: on fight Pass. Let's go back to mooie hardcore. We've

1244
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: got a theme on the show. If you try spinny

1245
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 1: shit in this you get sent to hell. Enough with

1246
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: the spinny shit. I don't know this guy's name. He

1247
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: may not deserve it, but shout out the channel light live.

1248
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: He attempts the kick, he said, you know, I'll spin back. No, you'll,

1249
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:42,720
Speaker 1: you'll That is a crazy season out. Yeah, do not pass.

1250
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 1: Go desposit your soul at the bottom of the ring

1251
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: on the way out. That is some wow.

1252
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 3: See the guy's head disappear through that foot.

1253
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 2: It's like, who are this?

1254
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: That's a small ring too.

1255
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 3: That's a beautiful sequence though.

1256
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: That is some vicious, vicious swap stuff right there. That's

1257
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 1: what you get, bro, Enough with this spat. I know

1258
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: there's a minor league you can try crap. You know,

1259
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 1: you can kick each other in the dong, but look,

1260
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna get sent to hell trying this stuff, all right,

1261
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: So get it out of your system. Now. I want

1262
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: to take you to a real fight that happened at.

1263
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 2: W X eighty four.

1264
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 1: No, this is not a real fight. This one is

1265
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: the turkey ball. Winner gets a full turkey dinner in

1266
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: the hall the spreads and we've got Lauren's bonds taken.

1267
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: Ryan Hall sold, No, not that Ryan Hall. Wow. Normally

1268
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,280
Speaker 1: had make a joke about the floral Ryan, Yeah, normally

1269
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,320
Speaker 1: make a joke about the loser eating his feelings. Afterwards.

1270
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 1: I think they both will Chuck, that's some that's super heavyweight.

1271
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:34,240
Speaker 2: Mma.

1272
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 1: Wow, that's great. That's dedication to It'll be hard for

1273
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 1: that guy in the bottom to take down the cage afterwards.

1274
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 1: After get with that headache, right, Wow.

1275
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 3: This is shades of a Tito and Alberto.

1276
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:50,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's it's it's an appetizer.

1277
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 2: There.

1278
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: We've done all fighting, all serious stuff up to this point.

1279
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: Chuck no dogs, Yeah, we can go dog, we can

1280
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: go a full Have you seen this ship without dogs? Right?

1281
00:51:59,160 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1282
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 1: All right, well let's go to them. We can road

1283
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 1: rage and disrespect. Remember the whole thing you do if

1284
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 1: you see somebody you only like on the road, you

1285
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: flip them off, give them the finger. Well, the kids

1286
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,800
Speaker 1: these days are doing something a lot different. Oh my god,

1287
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: chuck balls across the nose. What is going on here?

1288
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 3: Where have I alighted?

1289
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: Yeah? That's you bro, Wow, more than a mouthful. What

1290
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 1: are you doing that? Look? At this guy. Yeah, the

1291
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 1: greatest thing I've ever seen. Wow, this is sequel to shaft.

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Speaker 1: That's the same time I tried that joke.

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Speaker 3: Wow, this is a slow motion and a slow looking then.

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Speaker 1: Ah that you just go like this and the truck

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00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 1: driver would give you a honk. I guess you know,

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00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 1: honk if you're horny. That's that's fantastic. Wow. The point

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Speaker 1: is the best. The point is the best. Oh my god, Chuck,

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Speaker 1: have you seen this ship? Is the best thing going

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00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 1: on combat space? I think it really is, it really is.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you find these, all right, Jay?

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00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 1: Or is that you finding these things? That's me? This

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00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: is this is a Brian Campbell production. Okay, so it

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00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 1: makes puff me. I'm here all right?

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Speaker 3: These are yours, Chuck.

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Speaker 1: This is your fourth time in the family of uh

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Speaker 1: of Morning Combat.

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00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 3: I think it's fifth.

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00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 1: And look, no one's above taking in an l here.

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00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 1: I don't have high school photos I can pull out

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00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 1: of here, but we know that you have the iconic hat.

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00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: Some people think you have the iconic cat for a reason.

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00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: I've been able to dig up the last photo you

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Speaker 1: took without the iconic cat, the last one you took

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Speaker 1: without the iconic cat. Can we see it right there?

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00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 1: Look it out right there is the mm A live

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00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 1: house that looks. Wow. You know Joanna was right, he's

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00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: tough standing next to the best looking journalist in MMA.

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Speaker 2: No it is, but but he got over it man,

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00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 2: he was.

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00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 1: That looks like the moment before the edibles kick in,

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00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:40,839
Speaker 1: what's going through your head?

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00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 2: Hilarious? Not me, but there were edibles right around me.

1323
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 2: Jeff Wagenhan, who's.

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Speaker 1: Standing, you can get a con.

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00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 2: I'm not joking like he gave a Tui roll right

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Speaker 2: before Hooker told me she.

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Speaker 1: Got a contact time making out with him. It was great.

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00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 1: This one was this twenty twelve The King JDS rematch obvious?

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00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: What happened here? Does a producer say, no hat? Uh?

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Speaker 3: ESPN?

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00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 2: I used to do the show there and I never

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Speaker 2: wear the hat.

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00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: All right, Hey, shout out by the way to ESPN

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00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 1: m A live talk about a proving ground for future superstars.

1335
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 1: A right. I was an early editor on that show.

1336
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,760
Speaker 1: I'm the one who said get get McNeil. He's got sources.

1337
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 1: Make him a part of the show. That show has

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00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 1: produced John Annick, super producer Zat Candido, who's like top

1339
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 1: shelf in the UFC, the Founders, Karen Portley and the

1340
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: late Anthony Mormons, where Shot Evans cut his teeth there

1341
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 1: broadcasting in the beginning. Kenny Florian cut his teeth early.

1342
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 1: You and Brett did some time there, Todd Grisham, Max

1343
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: Brettos Molly Karma first take was an originator on that one.

1344
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 2: Cassidy hub Art the NBA.

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00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 3: She used to do MMA Live, absolutely that.

1346
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 1: Show. To all truth be told, that show was ahead

1347
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:46,320
Speaker 1: of the time in the beginning. We don't have this

1348
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 1: show right here in some ways without some things like that.

1349
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 2: It's not the hat. It's like, how drowsy you make?

1350
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 2: Can you picked one of my eyes were openly?

1351
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: No, I don't think there are those pictures out there.

1352
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 1: That's what I was wondering. What was in your bloodstream

1353
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: at that point three am or something like that. Well,

1354
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: you must be lonely indeed, all right, Chuck odds and

1355
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 1: ends this weekend. I don't know if you caught that

1356
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: ESPN top rank card over the weekend. Did you see

1357
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,720
Speaker 1: Oscar Valdez moved up to one thirty, his opponent missweight

1358
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: by eleven friggin pounds and got sent to hell by

1359
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,720
Speaker 1: Bob Aaron, they bring in the replacement Poteum Adam Lopez

1360
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 1: scores a knockdown and nearly pulls the upset. I love

1361
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: it in those situations when they pick a guy out

1362
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:22,839
Speaker 1: of the scrap heap, you're picking Adria Ruiz out of there. Yeah,

1363
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 1: he comes in there and changes the game. You want

1364
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 1: to you want to mention anything, anthing on your life.

1365
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 1: And you what have you been listening to? I've been

1366
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 1: listening to listen to Yeah, nineties wise of course.

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00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,879
Speaker 2: Oh man, I do like the Lithium Channel. I found

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00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 2: that to be all right, all right, all right, that's

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00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 2: good television.

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Speaker 1: What do you think is the greatest guitar solo of

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00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 1: the nineties? Is it the first one from November Rain,

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00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 1: the second one or the third one? Or is that

1373
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 1: a trick question in the second and third of combined

1374
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 1: with that little break in the middle. Sure, world, man,

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00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 1: it's just it's my world.

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Speaker 3: We're just listening seeing that video though a thousand times

1377
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 3: probably you're.

1378
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: The best video ever stephany back then Seymour and it

1379
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 1: still like.

1380
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 2: A you know, monoculture, like you would have to kind

1381
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 2: of watch MTV you would.

1382
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 3: See that endlessly. That and r EM's uh losing my

1383
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 3: religion at the time.

1384
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 1: I lost my religion watching Stephanie Seymour in that video,

1385
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 1: because you really have to ask yourself, like actuals a dirthole. Yeah,

1386
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: and that guy's just pulling in royalty. I mean, I

1387
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 1: guess it's a career path for some people. And but uh,

1388
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 1: it always would make me mad.

1389
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 3: You know, he didn't go so well from in the

1390
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:23,280
Speaker 3: later nineties, that's true.

1391
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: And now he's got the dreads. It's really did Chinese

1392
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 1: democracy finally come out?

1393
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 3: It's supposed to?

1394
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 2: I think this coming up.

1395
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, wait, what was the last concert you were at, Chuck?

1396
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 3: I actually saw Journey. That was kind of a funny thing.

1397
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 2: It was in Vegas and some somebody's had some Journey tickets.

1398
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 2: So that was the last one I went to. That

1399
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 2: was just like last week.

1400
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 1: I come with a freeers. I directed me.

1401
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 3: It was pretty it was it was good.

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00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 1: No Steve Perry though, right. It was the Asian guy y,

1403
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: the Asian guys fantastic. Yeah, yeah, he could.

1404
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,319
Speaker 2: Barely you know the voice if you just if you're

1405
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 2: not paying attention to that sounds exactly the same.

1406
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:57,320
Speaker 1: We need to go to a concert here, maybe we

1407
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: get the whole Morning combating. But the problem is Luke.

1408
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 1: Luke ruins everything he wants to see, Like you don't

1409
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 1: get down with like the I'll eat your soul, I'll

1410
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,399
Speaker 1: eat flesh, I'll kill children, those bands he likes.

1411
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 3: No, he's disturbed, man, Yeah, he's very disturbed.

1412
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 1: You know.

1413
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 3: He was at one of those like recently.

1414
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, Cannibal Corps, Dying Fetus. I mean it's under that

1415
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 1: genre of abortion rock, but it's really not my scene,

1416
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

1417
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 3: I'm glad we could incorporate Luke's taste in here.

1418
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 1: All right, we are. We're pretty lean on running time.

1419
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 1: This week. We hit it. We hit it hard, we

1420
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 1: hit it fast quick. It's it was like eighth grade, right,

1421
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just in and out. It was fantastic

1422
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 1: nowhere I come from, like twenty five All right, out

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00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 1: load did I Oh? Here's the deal, folks, Morning Combat.

1424
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 1: Whether you're looking at mugs like your boy BC Chuck

1425
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 1: or Luke, we needed to subscribe. We needed to get

1426
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 1: out out there. You don't have to go to your

1427
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: street corner and hold up the sign, but you got

1428
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 1: to spread the word to your friends, Spread it wide,

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Speaker 1: Spread it across the toast by subscribing to us on YouTube,

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00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 1: Morning Combat, hitting us up on Instagram each week. Get

1431
00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 1: your questions in. But we want to get these numbers

1432
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 1: up because the people that make decisions, not Jay, not

1433
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 1: that a hole Jay. The people that make decisions here,

1434
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 1: they think they have something here and they want to

1435
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 1: take this thing public. All right, Yeah, we need your

1436
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 1: support to get there. Okay, you want us to do

1437
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: a you want ww in the nineties, You want us

1438
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 1: to do a show in your house, It may happen.

1439
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Speaker 1: All right, let's get us there, Let's get us on

1440
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 1: the road. Let's do big things. With subscribing, you can

1441
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Speaker 1: follow Chuck's work at the Athletic. Your podcast is.

1442
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Speaker 3: Called The Man in the Myth. It's great with shot

1443
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 3: great pot.

1444
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: Check out Sean ol Shotty's feature on that. Oh yeah,

1445
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 1: on that.

1446
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 3: Travis Fulton.

1447
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 1: Travis Fulton, who fought five thousand times. Yeah, Chuck, you

1448
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: want to shout anything. Oh you're gonna be making any

1449
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 1: public appearances, book signings or anything. No, you have our

1450
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: social channels. Look, when you make me, you put me

1451
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 1: on the spot for these type of things. I'm so

1452
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 1: waiting for your greatest guitar solo of the nineties Alive

1453
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 1: Alive by Michael Creedy. Come on, no one, what yours

1454
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 1: I mean? Can you get? Can you get better than

1455
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 1: November one? Can you no? No? No more tears? Zach

1456
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 1: Wild come on no?

1457
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 3: All right, hey, all right, it's gonna start snowing.

1458
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 1: It's gonna Yeah, it's good. We should probably wrap it

1459
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 1: up before my wife calls and kills me for being

1460
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 1: on the roads. My name is Brian Campbell. You're looking

1461
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 1: at Chuck Mindenhall. Your buddy Luke Thomas will be back

1462
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 1: next week. Right now, he's in the gym getting those gains.

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00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 1: And for the fine folks at showtime, check out Brandon

1464
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 1: Shobs working below the belt. Check out all the smoke.

1465
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,439
Speaker 1: Have you seen that yet? That Showtime show with Matt

1466
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 1: Barnes and Stephen Jackson is fan friggantastic. Steve Jacko breaking

1467
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 1: down the palace brawl. That is musty audio in your

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Speaker 1: ear hole, so check it out. Shout out to all

1469
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 1: the listeners who only check us audio only. We appreciate

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Speaker 1: you as well. Hit us up with that review on

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Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, I don't know, Spotify, Jday, Tinder, wherever they

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Speaker 1: can access us. Spread it. Tell the world that's it.

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Speaker 1: May your hose be whatever, loyal, Jump up, jump up,

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00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 1: chins down, and get down. Yeah, that's it. I got

1475
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 1: nothing more to say. We're out of here, all right.

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Speaker 1: It's over, show's over. Go MoMA, mama,