1 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Daniel Jeremiah, Bucky Brooks from Move the 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: Six Bucky for those who haven't listened to our show, 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,120 Speaker 1: tell him what's about to fom NFL scales about twenty 4 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: years of experience looking at the game from a different perspective, 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: really digging into the personnel evaluations and also some of 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 1: the team matchups. Also gonna be focusing on the draft 7 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: as it gets closer, and you can check out our 8 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: show on NFL dot com. Slash Podcast you can find 9 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: on iTunes as well as YouTube on the NFL channel. 10 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: Just pump in Move the Sticks. Wow. Whenever you hear 11 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: that music, you know something a little different is coming. Yes, 12 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 1: the Around the NFL podcast will come to you as 13 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: regularly scheduled in just a few minutes. But because this 14 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: news broke right after we finished taping on Monday afternoon, 15 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna hit it right now. The Philadelphia Eagles say 16 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: goodbye to DeMarco Murray after just one season, one unproductive season. 17 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal Uh he has been traded to the Tennessee Titan. 18 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: The terms of the deal of yet to be disclosed 19 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: at this time. UH The move does not become official 20 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: til Wednesday, but it's happening. Uh, DeMarco Murray to Tennessee. 21 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: And my my question to you your initial thoughts. I 22 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 1: am really curious in this Eagles trade, there's been two 23 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: of them today, what the terms are because if to 24 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: me it makes sense that they're just getting rid of him. 25 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: They're sick of DeMarco Murray. They want to wash Chip 26 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: Kelly out of the building. They don't like his two 27 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: basically that anything that anything that happened last year didn't exist. 28 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: But if they got a halfway decent pick for Murray, 29 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:40,559 Speaker 1: then it becomes larcity because I feel like I would 30 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: rather have I would just as much have Lamar Miller 31 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: or Matt Forte, certainly Doug Martin at a much lower 32 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: salary than I would rather have DeMarco Murray. I'd rather 33 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: have a second round pick. I absolutely, I mean, if 34 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: if the yeah, if the trade, even if it doesn't 35 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: yield like big returns for the Eagles, Howie Roseman to me, 36 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: had a very nice day. And again, let's they not 37 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: only did Marco Murray get traded here, they also traded 38 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: Byron Maxwell, who was a cornerback signed to Star Money 39 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,239 Speaker 1: that didn't work out. Kiko Alonso, who was acquired in 40 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: the Lashawn mccoit trade. All guys that did not make 41 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: a positive impact on the Eagles under chip Kelly and 42 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: Roseman obviously not only getting rid of these guys and 43 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: like you said, wiping away chip Kelly, it feels almost personal, 44 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,959 Speaker 1: like Howie Roseman a year ago. What a difference a 45 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 1: year that makes. He's banished to the Poconos and an 46 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: archery hut. Now he's he's wheeling and dealing and getting 47 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: the praise of NFL Twitter. And that's always a dangerous 48 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: thing when people are too much in front office moves. 49 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: That's happening, but in this case, to Marco Murray was 50 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: a below average running back last year, and he's coming 51 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: off a season in two thousand and fourteen where he 52 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: had almost five touches is and he just didn't look 53 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: like the same guy and he may never bounce back 54 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: from that. In Tennessee, just I know they have a 55 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: new GM running the ship that some people are excited about. 56 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 1: But it's a strange move. His salary is guaranteed. He's 57 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 1: getting paid like a superstar this year. I want to 58 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 1: know what the cap implications are and I'm trying to 59 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: figure it out in my head. Off the top of 60 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: my head, I thought the Eagles would be taking on 61 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: uh some serious dead money or a cap hit to 62 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: get rid of him, so that that should be factored 63 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: into it. But I believe that he has paid seven 64 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: million dollars guaranteed this year. Uh yeah, apparently he's keeping 65 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: uh most if not all of the guaranteed money in 66 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: that initial deal. But he did uh make some consolations 67 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: with the Titans to get the deal done, So the 68 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: contract is gonna be a little bit different. But DeMarco 69 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: is still getting paid like a star. Running back to 70 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: me and from the Tennessee's Tennessee side, and everybody knows 71 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: that we we questioned the tytoons around these parts because 72 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: they just seemed so boring. It seems like a little 73 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: bit of a move that a bad team makes. It 74 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: makes you think that you could totally see the same 75 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: to Marco Murray playing in Tennessee and and Marcus Mariota 76 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: turning it around and handing it off to Murray, who's 77 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: gonna get three yards to carry? It feels like we're 78 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 1: that could be where we're heading. I don't want to 79 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: call it a swindle job, right, now. But this kind 80 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 1: of this seems like a tytoons e move. You know 81 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 1: it does because because you think of what Mike mullarkey 82 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: wants to do, exotic smash mountain. You know that's not 83 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: his thing, but smash mouth is his thing. And old school, 84 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: I want to give my running back four carries if possible, 85 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 1: like he used to, I believe with Michael Turner when 86 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: he was the offensive coordinator back in Atlanta, And that's 87 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: just kind of his a moo. Is that old school thinking? 88 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: And you're right, it does sound like an old school 89 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: type of move that let's get the big time running back, 90 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: big name running. It seems like the type of move 91 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: that uh Joe Blow would make because like, I want 92 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: to star running back. I want a guy, and they 93 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: don't have their running back position to be fair, has 94 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: been a total disaster. I want a guy who who 95 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: can prove, has proven before that he could touch the 96 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: ball five hundred times in a season and win rushing titles. 97 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: And I got him. But meanwhile, we don't know if 98 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 1: he's close to that same guy anymore, and evidence pointed 99 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: to that not being the case in his most recent 100 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: season of football. He's a running back in age these things. 101 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: These guys go off the clip pretty quick well. And 102 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 1: he's not a great great player on passing down he's 103 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 1: not a bad player. But I think I look at 104 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: what the Eagles have right now, and maybe they don't 105 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 1: get rid of Darren Sprawls, who people thought they were 106 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: gonna cut. You have Ryan Matthews, you have Darren Sprawls 107 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: last year, and Murray was the third best running back 108 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: on that roster. So it's just a cleaner situation for them. 109 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: Whereas Tennessee, it's like, what is the best that you 110 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: can hope for? I think probably him coming in seventh 111 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: or eighth in the league and rushing and having a 112 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: solid twelve yards on spectacular. To me, that's the best guy. Yeah, 113 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 1: I think they would be very happy with that, but 114 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: they're not going to get We would all be very surprised. 115 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 1: They're not going to get the eight teen hundred yard 116 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: de Marco Murray, and maybe they didn't. They're not gonna 117 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: pay for that, but there's still he's gonna get paid 118 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: like they are paid for that. I think a stud 119 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 1: running back, I think they are going to give him 120 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: them all three hundred times. I think they'll just see 121 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: how that works that they're just caught. I don't think 122 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: you make this move unless you're ready for him to 123 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 1: be the centerpiece of the offense. And I think that's 124 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: the plan. And it's also under the assumption that he's 125 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: going to be a rock in the backfield that's gonna 126 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: stay healthy, which really has never been a strong stude. 127 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: I know he did it in Dallas one year and 128 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: in part time. He didn't have a serious injury last year, 129 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: but who knows if his body can take another full 130 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 1: season it We'll see what happens. I think the Eagles 131 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: are doing the right thing here. They're they're cleaning the 132 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: books and moving forward in in a very exciting way. 133 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: It's an amazing thing. Although they are annually very active, 134 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: and this is true and Howie Rosemond was running the 135 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: show previously. They're always making news in September. They're like 136 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: a better version of the Dolphins. Generally, they're they're more 137 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: success I mean not September March. Uh, They're always making 138 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: news this time of year. They're always making lashing moves, 139 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: They're getting aggressive. Howie Rosemond runs his team aggressively, which 140 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: which I like like. I like that they're not waiting. 141 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: Um too. You know they're making a mistake. They're getting 142 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: rid of mistakes as fast as they can. But it 143 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: doesn't mean you're gonna be successful just because you're making 144 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: news it march I, Um, I liked your subtle allusion 145 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: to the Dream Team there. Oh yeah, a shout out 146 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: to Vince Young wherever you are, Vince. Alright, So that 147 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: is that's what's going on the little breaking news here. Uh, 148 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: we have a lot of show to get to, so 149 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: why don't we just send it over to ourselves and 150 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: some others? And an exciting episode of the Around the 151 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: NFL Podcast on the even free agency, The Around the 152 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: NFL Podcast Braves Them Its Welcome back to another edition 153 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis, 154 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: and I'm joined by a room filled with heroes. Mark Sessler, 155 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: Dave damn a Scheck and Greg Rose. What's what a 156 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: day for you? Dave Damashek, You're finally out of your life, 157 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning. After years of Dave Damashek, the assassinations of 158 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: the character and playing ability and the clutchiness of Peyton Manning. Uh, 159 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: he goes out a winner in Super Bowl fifty and 160 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: now he's out of your life. So bittersweet. I'm sure 161 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: his contributions to UH to the Victoria Super Bowl fifty 162 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:33,719 Speaker 1: team were we're barely more than Dave Damasks contribute. Yeah, 163 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: but that there that there's some truth, and yet there 164 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: it has to be annoying as the most vocal UH 165 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: Anti Peyton Manning guy out there that he ended in 166 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: this way, because you're gonna have to be making this 167 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: explanation the rest and you're like, oh wow, but he 168 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: didn't really earn it. Admit, it's a super annoying for 169 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: you riding that train about the one super Bowl for 170 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 1: years that he ended up getting one in a kind 171 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: of a cheap way on some level, and it just 172 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: sticks it to you. And so one I'll say this, 173 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: you know what, I think this is one of those 174 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 1: super Bowls. You know when we look back, it's gonna 175 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 1: look worse in ten years twenty. You're sort of like 176 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: the way you look at the Ravens and the Buccaneers 177 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: super Bowl crowns, not the second Ravens one, but sort 178 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: of like they seem like what happened that year? How 179 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: did that team get all the way through? How did 180 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: the Buccaneers with Brad Johnson's was great. I think I 181 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: think it's gonna go the other one, Michael Pittman. People 182 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: as deca decades past, people will forget how bad Peyton 183 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: Manning was in this game. Correct, And I'll just be 184 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: a guy that has two Super Bowl titles and five 185 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 1: m vps. And Gregg's points out, well, we're always stats 186 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: and that one Super Bowling one, no one remembers any 187 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: of that. It's no you know what though, hands Us, 188 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:51,839 Speaker 1: I agree with what you just said, and both things 189 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: can be true. As you look back on the fifteen season, 190 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: it's gonna seem it cheapens the Lombardi Trophy on some level. 191 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 1: There's certain ones that sneak through. The New Jersey Devil's 192 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: winning the Stanley Cup, the the fact that forever, the 193 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: glorious trophy that bears names like or in Lemieux, well, 194 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 1: the fact that exists lightning etched into it for all 195 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: of time cheapens that trophy. And same thing with the 196 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: Buccaneers being a super Bowl champion, and they were a 197 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: great team that that year, it lost better team than 198 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: this broadcast team. And yet this broadcast team won twelve 199 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: games and was the number one seed and took out 200 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: all the good teams on the way to win the 201 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. However, what can you say about and Zeus 202 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: is right too, and I've made that same point, is 203 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: that ten years from now, Peyton is gonna look ever 204 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: more luminous because he'll have two rings. And that's what 205 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: people will point out. People will forget the specifics of 206 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: of the playoff run, that he was really just a 207 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: passenger on the way there. But I think you're right 208 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 1: about that. But both of those things are true. So yes, 209 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: that we get right into Peyton Manning because this is 210 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: the Peyton Manning's big day. Of course we're gonna talk 211 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: about that, but that won't be the only thing we 212 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: talked about on today's show, because let's be honest, I mean, 213 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: do you really need to talk about Peyton Manning exclusively 214 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: on this one of the more important weeks of the 215 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: NFL calendar. We've had multiple people already chime in this 216 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: morning say please do not spend an entire podcast on 217 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning. Well, what will you do, Dave? I know 218 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: you're taping immediately after us with Greg sitting in. Will 219 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: be all Peyton or a crossover? I just want to 220 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: make sure. Yeah, this is a big day at NFL 221 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: media podcasting in Studio sixty six or whatever you guys 222 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 1: call it, but uh do you acknowledge it? Thank you well? 223 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: As we as I've said many times, and Mark, you've 224 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: agreed that there is no around the NFL podcast without damage. Listen. 225 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: I want to say this that Peyton Manning went about 226 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: his business the right way. I also want to say 227 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 1: that he was when when the Broncos brought him in, 228 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: he was everything they wanted and more. I just wanted 229 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: to make those points because it seems like nobody can 230 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: make can talk about him today without genuflecting to him. 231 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: There is a lot to get to today. Uh, we're 232 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: a second. I thought you were being genuine. I just 233 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: a'm fascinated by this new phrase, this new cliche that 234 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: relatively new. I think in the last five to ten years, 235 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: it's really emerged in pro football. Is this business about 236 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: going about your business the right way? When did that start? 237 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: Do bankers do that to each other? I like what 238 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: he does behind the count you know what, put him 239 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: behind the counter because he goes about his business the 240 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 1: right way when he's in football. Is that true? Why 241 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: did you get so uncomfortable and I tried to kiss 242 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: the ring just now, by the way, because it's it's phony, 243 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: it's fraud, it is not. That's insulting. Absolutely, what do 244 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: we respect Dave for him putting us on the back 245 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: end with the Dave Damn Check Football program, giving us 246 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: our first podcast. Absolutely? I mean, you know, at a 247 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: time when, not unlike now, when the entire NFL media 248 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: infrastructure ignores our show entirely, you didn't that true? It's 249 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: pretty true, says the guy who was just on NFL 250 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: network an hour ago. By the way, you can watch 251 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: us on a free agency frenzy. We're doing some well. 252 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: Greg uses it for a shameless plug. I was why 253 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: not nine am on the West coast. This is what 254 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: it's really like. You're in the you're in the Bee 255 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: High right now. It's a very dark place. It really 256 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: is a lot of paranoia, chip on chips on shoulders 257 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: and everything. You know. Not a pretty place. Uh, yes, 258 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: so this is I invested in rising stocks. That's what 259 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: I did. That's that's what I did. I saw I 260 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: saw two rising stars and I embraced them. And uh 261 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: and that's that. Thank you, savvy. Hopefully you get more 262 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: money from us than we got from Scott Trade. Are 263 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: you are you? Are you? Are you picking up the 264 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: Chris Westling mental right now? No, I just throwing a 265 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: few issues. Okay. Chris Westling, by the way, is on 266 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 1: Tybee Island. We should uh we should put out there 267 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: at huck A Poos. We might have to call over there. 268 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 1: I am the first person at huck A Poos or 269 00:13:56,280 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: on Tybee Island to ever be on a podcast, nay 270 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: here of a podcast. So try to get him on 271 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: the phone initially, And I'm just gonna pull back the 272 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: curtain a little bit a little later in the show. 273 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna bring back our famous prop game, Oh go 274 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: get my lunch you turnd uh And and west was 275 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: supposed to be involved. I texted him about an hour ago, 276 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: as you still want to do He's like, oh no, 277 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: I can't do that, as you might expect less having 278 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: a good time in Tybee and he deserves to have 279 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: a good time. Uh so maybe we'll call him up. 280 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: But yes, we're gonna make some propositions about free agency. 281 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: Uh today each um, this will be Scheck's first time 282 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: go get my lunch um exercise. We will each layout 283 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: kind of true. But I'm sorry to interrupt you, but 284 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: I do owe to sandwiches to Chris Westling for two 285 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: failed sandwich but the first one on the podcast air waves. Yeah, 286 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: I beat him though that the Chiefs would win that division, 287 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: or though I'm sorry, the Broncos wouldn't make the playoffs, 288 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: which really came very close to coming true. And I 289 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: also said Ryan Mallett would start twelve games um in 290 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: the NFL last year, and I came about eight short 291 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: on that count. People do forget that the Broncos, of 292 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: course won the Super Bowl. Going into Week seventeen, there 293 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: was a chance that they can miss the playoffs entirely. 294 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: It was. It was pretty wild and well, and how 295 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,239 Speaker 1: about going into the second half of the game again Cincinnati, 296 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: they're down for to nothing or whatever. They don't got 297 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: back in that game. There's no way they win the 298 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. So we'll lay out some props, including some 299 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: onion hangers. I hope everybody's got onion hangers ready, hang 300 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: some onion in a big spot. Great, you're the one 301 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: who played a really safe last time. I don't know 302 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: if your onion hang it. But before we do any 303 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: of that, we want to check behind the glass. Yes, 304 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: Sydney back in Utah. Um and as we as we 305 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: said last week, which was really a celebration of Sydney 306 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: and she deserved it. But we did say that Sydney 307 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: is now on around the NFL podcast producer Mount Rushmore 308 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: along with the gold standard. Um, you know, we don't 309 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: know what k Rich's available. Is she on there? And 310 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: she was? She Rich there? Yea great personality, the first 311 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: producer we ever had produce our Stitcher Award. So that's 312 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: three spots taken. Uh. That means there's one empty spot 313 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: for Brandon McGinnis. And that's a carrot. If i've ever 314 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: it's it's undone right now? What about black Tie? Black 315 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: Tive is more kind of your guy, so we don't 316 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: want to put him on our Mount Rushmore wasn't he 317 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: the original producer of your program? We had, We had people, 318 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: we had three or four before we had that gentleman 319 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: from Green Bay, the Packers fan. He was there for 320 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: about five minutes. The point being Brandon, yes, uh, and 321 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: you did a great job your first time around, but 322 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: now you have a chance to be immortal over these 323 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: next you know, five or six months good? I mean 324 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: I was only doing your show for two months last time. 325 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: You were just getting warmed up, just getting warmed up. 326 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: So you get another seven months of me. It's great 327 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: to be back in business with the irishman. Uh, let's 328 00:16:52,400 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: do some news buddy more. Well, Peyton, we won't see 329 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 1: you no more because Peyton Manning announced officially on Monday, Gentleman, 330 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: that his NFL career was over after eighteen seasons, a 331 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: career that spend, you know, two teams, five MVP awards, 332 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: two super Bowl titles, four trips to the Super Bowl, 333 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 1: and Uh, Manning delivered what I thought greg was a 334 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 1: bitter sweet addressed. I thought it was very well done, 335 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: tastefully done by the Broncos, and I thought Manning did 336 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: a nice job at his speech, but he really did 337 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 1: sound like, what are you laughing at that? Tastefully? No, 338 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 1: they did a nice job. They had the video presentation 339 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: and was hearing into taboo subject matter A real risk there, 340 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: I guess the kind of was. But didn't it feel 341 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: like Peyton Manning as he's as he's speaking and he's 342 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: getting choked up. He didn't want to retire, but he 343 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: convinced himself that he should keep going. No, he was 344 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: choked up and it was sad to see and forget 345 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: all your cynicism. Check it was an emotional This is 346 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: not the day for that, Dave. Come on you right, 347 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: I'm not looking to be syneco. You asked my and 348 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 1: I'm I'm I feel like we've overcovered Peyton Manning and 349 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. And yet when I watched that and 350 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: he's getting choked up, you know, it was a little 351 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: it was a little dusty and Rosenthal manner. It really was. 352 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I get emotional watching. I get emotional watching 353 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: anything like at home if i'm you know, or in 354 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: the in your manner, comforted in a film. Well, you know, 355 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: there was power was out at NFL network to pull 356 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: back the curtain even more NFL dot Com Mark was 357 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: here at work in the dark working that's actually hot. 358 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: Power was not restored. So yeah, I was. I was 359 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 1: watching the press conference, and uh it hit me a 360 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: little bit. Yes, John Elways said during the press conference, 361 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 1: he spoke as as well as Gary Kubiak and Joe Elis, 362 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 1: the team president, always said that Peyton Manning revolutionized the 363 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: game and how he played it, and uh, Peyton Manning, 364 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 1: Uh explained, uh that you know what what honor was 365 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 1: to play with all these different players and the five coaches. 366 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: But it was just a time. This is how you 367 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: know what got me? By the way, what was his 368 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 1: little story about his five year old daughter asking if 369 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: it was going to be his last game? And you know, yeah, 370 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: rap Sheet was probably upset about it being a Schefter 371 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 1: reference and more it instead of rap Sheet. We'll talk 372 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: to him next time he's on the show about that. 373 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: But this is what Peyton had. This is how he 374 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: closed his press conference at the end UH ending his 375 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: professional career before his Q and I should say, there's 376 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: a scripture reading Second Timothy four seven. I have fought 377 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: the good fight, and I have finished the race. I 378 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: have kept the faith. Well, I fought a good fight. 379 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 1: I finished my football race, and after eighteen years, it's time. 380 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: God bless all of you and God bless football. Is 381 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 1: it was that too much? Mark? Did you not like 382 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: that last line? What God bless football? I mean you 383 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: thought was it? Well? Before he know he was. I 384 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: was on board with Peyton for the whole thing. I 385 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: think Peyton Manning like number one. We know he's going 386 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: to do a good job in this that I'm not 387 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: done yet. Correct. That last line was absurd, and I 388 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: don't it's absurd because it's you know what, there's just 389 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, whatever, it's I'm happy for you. Peyton Manning 390 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 1: mad that that's to me is just gratuitous junk. I 391 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: I agree what he kind of lost me at God. 392 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 1: You agreed with me before he lost I wouldn't go 393 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: that strong. All right, that's lost me at God Blessed Football. 394 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 1: I believe that he really believes that, but he did 395 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 1: sort of lose me. It's just a little much that. 396 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: The part where you lost me, though, is you were 397 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 1: in on it before. During the whole press conference, you 398 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: were saying, Oh, he's gonna be back in June. There's 399 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: no way this guy. Oh, I totally believe he's gonna 400 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: play after in the middle, it was a little I 401 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 1: completely believe he'll be starting Week one for the Rams 402 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: or some team. It was a little, a little cheesy, 403 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: but you gotta give him a little slack. Well, this 404 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: is this is sort of what I wonder if Damna 405 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: check was aligned with me on this. We're on a 406 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: everyone's like, but you've got to give him a little 407 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: slack today it's like this guy Dan just it every 408 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: that Peyton Manning has more riches, more fame, more accolades 409 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: than anyone could dream of. I don't have to give 410 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: him anything. He doesn't need anything for me. No go 411 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: do it, have a nice time. He needs the idea 412 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: that he needs. Loves on Mondays. By the way, yes, 413 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: and this is really a reflection of Sessler's mood. I think, 414 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 1: after coming into a dark building that very well maybe true. 415 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 1: You know, first of all, the big controversy emerging out 416 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: of Monday's press conferences that Lyndy Jones dared ask a 417 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: question about Peyton's latest scandal. People didn't care for that. 418 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 1: And I'm conflicted about it because I guess it's what 419 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: you know. But and it is the first time that 420 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: he's been out there and available for last time this 421 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: that what strikes me is does he need you know, 422 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,199 Speaker 1: I'm kind of inclined to say he does deserve a 423 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: little bit of slack on that stuff at his retirement. 424 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: It doesn't need to be sullied to show I'm not 425 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: a patent hater. But I'm not a patent hater. And 426 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: by the way, I never said he choked. I said 427 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 1: his talent level. It can flicks when he goes, or 428 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: he struggles because of his talent to sneak passes by 429 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 1: high end defenses in nasty weather in January. That's got 430 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 1: ring number two and he's out. Then again, he also 431 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: failed in in the home doome of Indianapolis too, So 432 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe maybe not, Maybe I can't just 433 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: write it off to that. But the whole scandal about 434 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 1: he he deserves some slack and everything else. I mean, 435 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: he's led a charmed professional life. So from where he sits, yeah, 436 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: I guess God bless football because whereas here's the thing 437 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: everybody's doing right now, myself included. We all are doing this. 438 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: Where does Peyton rank all time now, now that it's 439 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: all said and done, where does he stand? Well? One 440 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: thing that you have to factor in, and it's not 441 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: exactly his fault. In fact, he really required on some 442 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: level Bill Polian to go out and retain offensive pieces. 443 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 1: And in fact, Pollyan commented on that if you remember 444 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago with with r Say weighing 445 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: in as well, that we can't build our team the 446 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,199 Speaker 1: way we did around Peyton. It's got to be talent 447 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: top to bottom. Rather than just being a high end 448 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: off a passing offensive team like they are. He had 449 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison, Reggie, Wayne Marshall, falk Edge, James, Demius Thomas 450 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,959 Speaker 1: and so on. Whereas when you're the guys, you're comparing 451 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: him to Elway Marino uh far, Really where their high end? 452 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: Where's the high end supporting cast for well? Not to 453 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: mention Tom Brady and Tom Brady. What are the things 454 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: that I think Peyton Manning is known for is helping 455 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: to make those guys better? Is Marvin Harry. But that's 456 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 1: that's a narrative, that's not that's not true. But I 457 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 1: think the idea that Peyton Manning was great because of 458 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 1: his pre snap adjustments and because of the precision of 459 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:55,199 Speaker 1: that offense is true. Then that comes from practice because 460 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 1: everyone knew what the cults were doing. Everyone makes such 461 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: a big deal about coaching coaches are geniuses, Like they 462 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: were the most predictable offense year after year. Everyone knew 463 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 1: what they were doing and they just executed it better 464 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: because they were precise and because they last point Mark 465 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: Well one thing, because I don't I don't want to 466 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: come across as if I'm like grumpy about the whole thing. 467 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: Like I I you're absolutely right about that with Peyton 468 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: Manning when he one thing I did like what he 469 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: said was he completely admitted he's gonna miss football, but 470 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: he did talk about it being a new territory for 471 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: where he's going, and he doesn't seem scared to take 472 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: that step. And I do think with the way that 473 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning like takes something on and goes after it 474 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: like that, he will be maybe following John o a 475 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: beyond just to win a Super Bowl and quit, but 476 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: into the general manager role or something like that. Wo'd 477 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 1: be good at that. Let's spin forward. Now Peyton's out 478 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: at least as a player. Uh, we'll see if we 479 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 1: crossed paths with them down the line. Brock Osweiler, you 480 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 1: would think, is the next man up now in Denver. 481 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 1: He's obviously been groomed there for four years, got some 482 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: playing time last season during the Super Bowl. Uh run 483 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: u Uh. The only problem is he's not under contract yet. 484 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: In NFL media insider Ian rapp Report reported Saturday that 485 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: the two sides are still um far apart on a deal. 486 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 1: His exact words were not at the three year, forty 487 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: five million and we don't know how much is guaranteed 488 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: of that or if that's a lot of incentive incentive base. 489 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: But whatever that offer is is quote not enough to 490 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,719 Speaker 1: get the deal done at this point. Today is Monday, 491 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: the opening of the um legal tampering period, So he's 492 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 1: kind of in the mix right now, Greg, Uh, for 493 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: other teams, and I ask you this with Peyton Gun, 494 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 1: there's not another option on the roster. Uh do the 495 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 1: does brock Oswealder have the Broncos over barrel right now? No, 496 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: because I don't buy that another team is out, They're 497 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: gonna out spend the Broncos. He is worth more to 498 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: the Broncos than he is worth to any other team, 499 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: or he should be, just like Ryan Fitzpatrick is worth 500 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: more to the Jets. So this to me is just negotiating. Now. 501 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: It says forty five million with incentives, so who knows 502 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: what that could be? I mean that could that could 503 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: be He's only making nine or ten million dollars in 504 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: year one, and you would see why his agent wouldn't 505 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 1: want to accept that. Right now, listening to our guy 506 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: NFL media insider Ian Rappaport, he he seems to sound 507 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: like he believes the Houston interest is real, but that's 508 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 1: the one team that would legitimately go after Osweiler, who 509 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 1: had about three or four good halfs in seven starts. 510 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: I'm not that excited. Like to me, it's a Kevin 511 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 1: cob type of situation. If if Houston brings him into 512 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 1: at forty million dollars or so, it's not though if 513 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: he stays in Denver. In my and I don't think 514 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: he has John Elway. No one has John Elway over 515 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 1: a barrel because and we talked about this on NFL Network, 516 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: I think it's very much a situation where this is 517 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 1: the timing has worked out very well for the Broncos. 518 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 1: You you squeezed everything you could out of Peyton Manning, 519 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: you got that last Super Bowl. It worked out perfectly. 520 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 1: You've now have a guy ready to step up who 521 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 1: has learned under Peyton Manning his entire career, who's been 522 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: in the building with John Elway, worked with closely with 523 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,959 Speaker 1: Adam Gaze and Gary Kobia. That's a lot of knowledge. 524 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: He's learned a lot. You want more transitions like this 525 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: from young quarterbacks stepping in to go to a new 526 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: team with an unknown fit. I don't like that stay 527 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: in Denver. No one's loose. It would have been a 528 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: perfect transition if he had another year left on his contracts, 529 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: so they can get a gauge on how yes you're 530 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: player he is. Instead, they gotta pay him like a star, 531 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 1: most likely because I'm telling you and I'm not gonna 532 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 1: I I pondered this as an onion hanger in our 533 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: prop bets propositions later, but I couldn't do it. I'm 534 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 1: I would not be stunned if a team liked the 535 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: Texans when the owners already like handed out a big 536 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 1: state message to the head coach and GM that I 537 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: need a quarterback. Somebody can blow him out of the water. 538 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 1: And I know would It makes sense maybe with the 539 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: scheme and he's in a comfortable situation check, but I 540 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 1: feel like it's a little tricky letting this guy get 541 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: to the market. I completely agree. And in what world 542 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: is it crazy to pay brock Oswiler sixteen million dollars 543 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: a year when Sam Bradford just got twenty six million 544 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 1: guaranteed over the next two and eighteen million? And by 545 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: the way, that is what's gonna happen. There is gonna 546 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: be a team that's willing to pay that kind of 547 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: loot to brock Oswilder. So the Broncos either are gonna 548 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,679 Speaker 1: step up and pay them a little bit more or 549 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: they're not gonna have a starting quarterback where they're gonna 550 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: have to find one in free agency or the draft. 551 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: And and so that's one thing and the other. It's 552 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 1: not like he played like he's played seven games int 553 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: of his career, and certainly those seven games work better 554 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: than the average. Same, right, But also when there's a 555 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: dearth of qbs, as everybody laments constantly that there aren't 556 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: any legitimate QB options out there, one if two things 557 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 1: are true about pro football players and and maybe these 558 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: sound cynical, but I I really do believe these are 559 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: both facts for for what motivates pro football players in 560 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: the twenty one century. One loot. So if somebody offers 561 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: him a million extra, that will be enough for brock 562 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: Osweiler to leave the the alleged comfort zone of Denver 563 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: and Cubes and all that and to having a chip 564 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: on their shoulder. You were a doubter, you know who 565 00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: doubted brock Oswidler's ability. Gary Kubiak and the Denver Broncos 566 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: when they put old man eighteen back in there when 567 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: they wouldn't have been in the playoff mix any longer 568 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: had Oswiler not stepped in when they needed him. He 569 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: wants to prove them wrong. You think brock Osweiler doesn't 570 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: have it rattling around in the back of his head 571 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: like Steve Young or anybody else when, or or Joe 572 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: Montana for that matter, when he went to Casey. Of course, 573 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: they want to disprove what Gary Kubiak must think, and 574 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: they will be able to turn what you may say 575 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: is just a mole hill into him out. Well, what 576 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: he'll be able to do. They just gave c J. Anderson. 577 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: They're starting running back the low tender. He can be 578 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: taken away for nothing. And they're the Broncos who've worked 579 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: with brock Osweiler every day and could have gotten a 580 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: better backup during this entire Peyton Manning rain, but decided 581 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: he was their guy. And how I thought what he 582 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: did last season he came in, he couldn't have handled 583 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: any better, frankly, and they they're offering him the money. 584 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: They're putting a big money on the table. That speaks 585 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: more to me than anything else they do. Like I agree, 586 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: they want to keep him. And I also think right now, 587 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: if you think about it, though, Osweiler was bench for 588 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, Like I mean, I know, but Greg what 589 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: but it's his first time on the field. What he 590 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: performed well? He won some big games for them. Do 591 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: you doubt that they would have won the Super Bowl 592 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: had Brock os Wiler understand That's one reason why he 593 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: should could be upset is that I think I probably 594 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: would have won the superstanulating circumstances. I think he should 595 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 1: understand Peyton man It was a tough situation for everyone involved. 596 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: We'll see if they figure it out. And other big 597 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: time quarterback news, Robert Griffin, the third once upon a 598 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: time was the most exciting on quarterback and football. Now 599 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: he's unemployed, at least for the time being. The Redskins 600 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 1: informed Griffin of his release officially on Monday. This was 601 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: a long time uh coming for the former Baylor star 602 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: and offensive rookie of the Year. Um he didn't play 603 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: single snap last season, and then Kirk Cousins had his ascension, 604 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: which which meant the end for r G three in 605 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: Washington and it's time for a fresh star for all 606 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 1: involved with Shack. He gets a year off, his body 607 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: can be has to be as healthy as it could 608 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: possibly be at this stage of his life. Uh. Any 609 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: chance next year? Uh? And we can speculate where he'll 610 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: end up, but that he'll get a shot, and if 611 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: he gets a shot, that he could even approach his 612 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: former heights or is he just another guy now? Well? 613 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: I think he will get his shot. To answer the question, 614 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: I think he'll get a shot to earn a starting gig. 615 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: The idea that I see some rumors floating around he's 616 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: more of a backup and that's how he's perceived league wide. Again, 617 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: I refer back to this is a league where people 618 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: are desperate to get a QB, so they're gonna give 619 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: a guy who had a transcendent rookie season he shot 620 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: at least. Um. I think that, Uh that, you know, 621 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: I I think it's fascinating to look back at the 622 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 1: what what jumps out at me with him, what he's 623 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: going to be going forward? Is I marvel at the 624 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: hyper athleticism of these guys and within that, isn't it 625 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: fascinating or ironic that he and Mike Vick, for all 626 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: their athleticism, can't seem to gauge spatial I can't you 627 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: know that that they don't have that spatial sense Colin 628 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: Kaepernick or Cam Newton has. I mean Cam Newton takes 629 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: some licks, but Colin Kaepernick, for a big guy, never 630 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: gets you. Never. For all whatever else you might beat 631 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: him up over, he never takes a big lick anytime. 632 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: R G three is. Dan Helly famously said every time 633 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: he gets hit it's a car wreck. I mean he 634 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: lay lamb's flailing all over the place and everything. So 635 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 1: I don't know how long he can be. But I 636 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: also go with Ross Tucker, who says, just cut him loose. 637 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: If he only lasts for two or three more years, 638 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: you gotta let r G three play like r G 639 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: three has to play. I don't think he'll have much 640 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: of a chance, that's having a chance to start. I 641 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: would be surprised if he gets a halfway decent opportunity 642 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 1: to start. I think he'll in a best case scenario, 643 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 1: he'll be a backup to the like in Kansas City, 644 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: something like that. And it wouldn't surprise me if he's 645 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 1: competing to be the backup. You don't think he's gonna 646 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: have options. I think he'll have options, and I think 647 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: he'll have a he'll sign, but I don't I think 648 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: he would sign. I think he'd rather be a backup. 649 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: It sounds like from what he and reporting that he'd 650 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: rather be a backup in a good situation than competing 651 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: to start with case Keenum or something in last And 652 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: aren't that many starting jobs right now. I've I've been 653 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: surprised about the optimism regarding r G three. To me, 654 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: he's about where Tim Tebow was after he left, which is, 655 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: if RG three is in the league in in two years, 656 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: that's to me, I would take that sandwich. Well, you 657 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: can say, oh, come on, but how good is it 658 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: a situation? Ever, when we're talking about an NFL player 659 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: saying if he could just be the way he was 660 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: in two thousand and twelve, that's four years ago, and 661 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: every wants to ignore everything that's happened since with r 662 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: G three, I want to just I've tracked Griffin pretty closely, 663 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 1: even going back to Bell. I'm not a college football fan, 664 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: but my my wife and all her family went to Baylor, 665 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: so I was all plugged in on r G three. 666 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: He's always carried himself with a high level of self belief, 667 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: he has an ego that sometimes gets the best of him. 668 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: I would be very surprised if he signed in a 669 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 1: place where he'd be locked in as a backup. I 670 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: think he will go to a team the forty niners 671 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 1: or someone like that where he has a real chance 672 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: to play next year. You think somebody hasn't managed him 673 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: after his UH, after tripping himself up with ridiculous statements, 674 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 1: you know, with the humors that he that that he 675 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,919 Speaker 1: UH revealed to the world. Now people have said, like, hey, 676 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: just be a good teammate, just say the right things. 677 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: I'll be a backup. I want to be in a 678 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 1: good situation. I want to go to a winning a 679 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: winning team. All that stuff. That's that's that's that's fine. 680 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,359 Speaker 1: But I don't think there's much to do with whether 681 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: he can play or not. The only reason he was 682 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: a starter since two thousand thirteen is because the owner 683 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,919 Speaker 1: made the coaches who didn't want to start him play him. 684 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,359 Speaker 1: So now he's gonna just be out there fighting like 685 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 1: anyone else to get on the field. And to me, 686 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: where he is now in terms of where he's probably 687 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: a two three number two. How is it though? Quickly, 688 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 1: just very quickly hands Touson company, Explain this one to me, 689 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: How do you right away, right off what happened in 690 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 1: his rookie season long ago though it was how do 691 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,399 Speaker 1: you how you then figure that he doesn't have that 692 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: perhaps the one one his rookie season happened before a 693 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: major knee injury. Okay, And to everything that we've seen 694 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 1: on the field since is discouraging, and what he's become 695 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 1: in the locker room or what he became in Washington 696 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 1: is discouraging. And two straight coaching staffs would rather have 697 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 1: played Kirk Cousins by the end of it. I mean, 698 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 1: people have good seasons all the time and then they 699 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,320 Speaker 1: fall off the map and lots of positions. When it's quarterback, 700 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:35,240 Speaker 1: people think, well, that wasn't but that wasn't a good season. 701 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 1: This was the times we're talking four years ago. But 702 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 1: I'm saying that's why I think he'll still have a 703 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: lot of interest in the open market. But it's a 704 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 1: good coaching staff should not look at things that way. 705 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: They have to look at the whole body of work. 706 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: The league caught up. It was scheme, it was time 707 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: and place, it was his athleticism, like the league caught 708 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 1: up to that scheme and they had he had no 709 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: other move. I'm with you, Mark, but I'm just saying 710 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: that people don't make great decisions a lot in the NFL. 711 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 1: You're someone getting sucked in. That's uh. In other news, 712 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,800 Speaker 1: a big trade, biggest trade that went down on Monday afternoon. 713 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 1: NFL media insider Ian Rappaport, known popularly as rap Sheet, 714 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,760 Speaker 1: reported Monday that the Eagles have agreed to trade cornerback 715 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: Byron Maxwell and linebacker Kiko Alonso moving around a lot 716 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:24,760 Speaker 1: kick to the Dolphins. According to two sources, the Eagles 717 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 1: will receive undisclosed draft picks and with the Dolphins they 718 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: don't work. They're just taking a racer and wiping away 719 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 1: any trace of the Chip Kelly are well. I mean 720 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 1: you had what Howie Rosemand living in an archery shed 721 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: or something. He was in an archery shed in the Pocono's. Uh, 722 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 1: that's where Chip put him. One of the great comeback 723 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,839 Speaker 1: stories of all time. Yeah, he's he's like the Count 724 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 1: of Monte Cristo and he's come back and he's taking 725 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 1: the head off of anyone that Chip Kelly brought into town, 726 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 1: and just he's bringing back the Eagles of three seasons ago. 727 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 1: Is that a good thing. I don't know. Well, I 728 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 1: want to see what the undisclosed draft picks are, but 729 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 1: my guests are that there are a six or seventh 730 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 1: round pick. This is the Eagles. Essentially, it's just cutting 731 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: these guys. I mean, they paid Maxwell thirteen millions something 732 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: like that last year. This year's only eight and the 733 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,959 Speaker 1: Dolphins don't have to give him a signing bonus or anything. 734 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 1: So I don't think it's a bad move for the Dolphins. 735 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 1: They're getting rid of Brent Grimes, so we we got 736 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,800 Speaker 1: that news for me and Rappart. They're basically just swapping 737 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 1: out Maxwell for Grimes. That makes some sense. Kiko Alonso 738 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,720 Speaker 1: is a throwing at this point, you lose Brent grimes 739 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: wife too. Yeah, that's a big lot. Yeah, I guess 740 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 1: you had to get rid of I sort of look 741 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,360 Speaker 1: at it the other way. I think Alonso is the 742 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 1: piece that the Dolphins won, and Maxwell right is a 743 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:39,239 Speaker 1: is a body that they can replace Maxwell's. Jaxwell's is 744 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: being paid like a number one quarterback. I know, it 745 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 1: feels like an NBA kind of trade to salary dump 746 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 1: on poor Mike Tannenbaum, who doesn't know any better. But 747 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 1: Kiko Alonso too. I mean, for all the all the 748 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 1: talk about how great he was, I I we had 749 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 1: a miserable year. He had a year that makes you 750 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 1: wonder is he ever going to be the same player 751 00:37:58,080 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 1: after the injuries he had. I mean, he had a 752 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 1: year that he was one of the least effective guys. 753 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 1: I think the answer from the green room. I'm not 754 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 1: gonna name drop here, but I was in the green 755 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 1: room um with some of the people that were doing 756 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 1: the Peyton genuflection. They were making their rounds, say where 757 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 1: they were holding over for half an hour to get 758 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 1: their energy back. It's that anything for me, and I 759 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 1: just I'm not gonna now listen to what I have 760 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 1: to I love it these guys. As soon as that 761 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 1: was announced, I said, oh, well that's interesting for Kiko Alonso. 762 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,840 Speaker 1: Maybe uh you know, maybe there's a new act form 763 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 1: waiting down there in South Beach. And everybody in the room, 764 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 1: these are all players who are breaking down film said, 765 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,839 Speaker 1: oh no, he's done. He I mean, he's he's great 766 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,800 Speaker 1: sideline to sideline as a carnival trick, but he is 767 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 1: not useful as a pro linebacker any longer. By the way, 768 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 1: Brandon who is gunning for that fourth spot on Mount Rushmore. No, 769 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 1: it's mine. I'm getting it. I love that confidence. That's 770 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,799 Speaker 1: two thousand twelve RG three confidence and also a Dean 771 00:38:55,920 --> 00:39:00,080 Speaker 1: scream droppere what time? Thank you? Thank you? I you 772 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 1: did you hear about this? By the way, I brought 773 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 1: back the Dean scream? Wow? How about that? The society 774 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 1: like not just for the show. And if you check 775 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 1: out Google, it's trending upwards. Uh you know, do we 776 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 1: have the longer Dean scream clip? Well, no, it doesn't 777 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 1: look like it. Okay, Well that's that's not how you 778 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,360 Speaker 1: get on that rush. They always say that. I have 779 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:20,759 Speaker 1: to say, though, it wasn't on the board when I 780 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 1: got back. If you see the video, that was isolated 781 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 1: and if you hear it, have you ever seen the 782 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 1: shots with how loud the crowd was around him? Somehow 783 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:32,759 Speaker 1: that's an isolated sound. Howard Dean was railroaded out of 784 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,800 Speaker 1: the race. However, many moons ago that was What was that? 785 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 1: Twelve years ago? Has been the same since. I mean, 786 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 1: he was a big You're plugged in on that, whyn't you? Mart? Well, 787 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,799 Speaker 1: there were factors involved, but we don't need to get 788 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,319 Speaker 1: into that. Um, here's something that I find disconcerting. Uh, 789 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 1: Jets your right hand though, what was that? Jets quarterback 790 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 1: for a second Ryan Fitzpatrick is expected to hit the 791 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 1: open market. According to Ian Rappaport, the two sides are 792 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 1: quote still far apart on a potential deal and Uh, 793 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, Greg, Yeah, I know, this is just 794 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 1: you know, this is part of the process in the 795 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 1: game and the back and forth and the But I 796 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,760 Speaker 1: don't like this because I know that if the Jets 797 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 1: don't get Ryan Fitzpatrick back in their building that I 798 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 1: am not I am not watching any more Geno Coaster. 799 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 1: I ain't ride in that garbage. Bryce Petty is a 800 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,799 Speaker 1: raw project. I don't want to start over. Somebody, keep 801 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 1: Ryan in the building, see what we can do. Just 802 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 1: get this deal done. It's give me stress. Oh I 803 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,760 Speaker 1: like that. I don't feel on the borderline of making 804 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 1: that one of my sandwich props. A little later that 805 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 1: he's gonna leave the Jets. So maybe I'll do it 806 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 1: just be cause he's gonna I don't really believe it, though, 807 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 1: I would just do it to be tweaking you. It 808 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 1: makes no sense for him to go to another I 809 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 1: know it does, but it's such a perfect fit, like 810 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 1: he could I don't Maybe they figure he can never 811 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 1: recreate that season anyways, but well, I can't imagine that. 812 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't worry at all if I were you. 813 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,799 Speaker 1: Number one, the Texans are out of their out because 814 00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,040 Speaker 1: they've had the Ryan Fitzpatrick experience. He's not going to 815 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,920 Speaker 1: can I just can I just say that, Domino, this 816 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 1: is what I fear. Brock gets wooed to Houston on 817 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,840 Speaker 1: a huge deal, and then Denver needs a veteran quarterback 818 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,359 Speaker 1: to pair with their Super Bowl contending team and they 819 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 1: are not a panic, but they say we've got to 820 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,439 Speaker 1: get the best available guy, and they signed fits away, 821 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 1: and he would go to Denver. I'm sure even if 822 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 1: he loves Jan Gailey. I don't like any dominoes being 823 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:24,960 Speaker 1: I think this has a lot to do with Sam 824 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 1: Bradford signing the contract he just did. I think that 825 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 1: probably jolted talks, and then at that point it's no, no, 826 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 1: we want at least what sam brad forgot, because Fitzpatrick 827 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 1: was a better quarterback than sam brad for less, and 828 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 1: he's more tenured, and Ryan Fitzpatrick is in fact oh, 829 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,920 Speaker 1: nineteen million dollars, And how does that sit with you? 830 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 1: Dan Hans's nineteen million dollars for Ryan Fitzpatrick, who, as 831 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 1: as two side notes, has a full beard and went 832 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 1: to Harvard. But I don't know really, Yeah, that's right them. 833 00:41:54,880 --> 00:42:00,120 Speaker 1: But yeah, listen, I think that Denver fit especially I 834 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 1: don't know r G three and Ryan Fitzpatrick, who's going 835 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 1: to be the starting quarterback for the defending World champions 836 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:12,320 Speaker 1: find out on opening night NFL. I don't like it 837 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 1: could happen. It's it's it's insane. Dan. You also could say, hey, 838 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,279 Speaker 1: we got one great year out of Ryan Fitzpatrick. Let's 839 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 1: be really smart and cut bait. I well, listen, it's 840 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,239 Speaker 1: it's an impossible contract, this one in the brock Eysweller one. 841 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 1: It doesn't surprise me that it's hard to come up 842 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,280 Speaker 1: with it because of what you just think about Bradford 843 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 1: and and the reality is, shouldn't the last thirteen years 844 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 1: of Ryan Fitzpatrick's career count just as much as the 845 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 1: last year. So it's tough to balance balance those and 846 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 1: come up with the right number. And part of and 847 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 1: part of me thinks, if you played this podcast a 848 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 1: year from now it would seem silly that I was 849 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,279 Speaker 1: freaking out about Ryan Fitzpatrick leaving after he bombs out 850 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,800 Speaker 1: and throws twenty four interceptions that starts. I know that 851 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 1: could happen potentially, but I'd like to see it through. 852 00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 1: I just loved it was just such a fun season 853 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,280 Speaker 1: for a Jet fan. Uh, despite not making the playoffs, 854 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,359 Speaker 1: just listen, I don't don't run from it, said, isn't 855 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 1: it sad? But I totally here Jets season ended. Boy, 856 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:12,879 Speaker 1: that was a fun one. Yeah, they're spoiled brat. That's 857 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:14,799 Speaker 1: you know, that's you were. But you were the guy 858 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,840 Speaker 1: who yesterdays, these two people on my left and right lost. 859 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 1: He you'ridiculous it was. It was a wonderful ride that 860 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 1: lost in the most humiliating way possible, that ended in 861 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 1: the last Yeah, but Greg, he doesn't have like nearly 862 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,759 Speaker 1: a centuries worth of good memories to just sit back 863 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 1: in bathing all of the century, just sit back in bathing. 864 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 1: Dan has got nothing. It's an empty battup. But you 865 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,359 Speaker 1: were telling me the other day, I was getting all 866 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,000 Speaker 1: jazzed up about the Celtics, who are a fun team 867 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:43,719 Speaker 1: this year, that the number three seed right now, in 868 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,880 Speaker 1: the Eastern Cut. You're like, oh, why even enjoy that? 869 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 1: Why I get excited when you have no chance to 870 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,239 Speaker 1: win the title? And I was like, well, that makes 871 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 1: those the Jets had a chance to get deep in 872 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,200 Speaker 1: the a f C playoffs. If they got in, everybody 873 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 1: forgets now. They won six in a row before they lost, 874 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 1: they were playing great. Nobody thought it was crazy when 875 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 1: I said that before weeks seventeen. You guys, it's not 876 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 1: a good look for either of you. I just want 877 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,799 Speaker 1: to say, I think it's sad for you. My heart 878 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,680 Speaker 1: goes out to you that you were saying that this 879 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 1: was a feel good to you. I did laugh at 880 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,920 Speaker 1: an exciting season. You guys should just be grateful for 881 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,239 Speaker 1: what you have and and be happy that you're not 882 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:19,959 Speaker 1: me on so many levels. And finally, in the news 883 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 1: Logan Mankin's seven times seven time Pro Bowl gard known 884 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,560 Speaker 1: for his toughness and elite play up front, says Connor 885 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:36,920 Speaker 1: Orr has decided to step away from the game. He 886 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 1: played eleven seasons a hundred sixty one games when two 887 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,400 Speaker 1: conference titles ended his career with the Bucks, and of 888 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 1: course had a nice run with the Pats. Hence the 889 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,520 Speaker 1: thrown off sleeves. A little bit of a reach there, uh, 890 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:54,759 Speaker 1: ended in a really ugly way, contentious contracts, squabbles. But 891 00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:58,440 Speaker 1: a nice player, very nice player, greg wasn't it Billy 892 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 1: bring of honor? The Hall of Fame type player. I 893 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,480 Speaker 1: don't think he'll get there. He did make seven Pro Bowls, 894 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 1: but Belichick talked about that he's the best guard he 895 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,800 Speaker 1: ever coached. He thought Mankins at his peak sounds a 896 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:11,880 Speaker 1: good person to trade. Yeah, it sounds like somebody to 897 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,120 Speaker 1: freeze out and let him sit on a bench for well, 898 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:15,919 Speaker 1: he kind of he went to the tune of his own, 899 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:17,880 Speaker 1: you know he was. He's one of those Patriots that 900 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,680 Speaker 1: didn't really get in live with Yeah, don't show personality. Uh, 901 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 1: don't value yourself. Just come up on Patriot Way and 902 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:29,120 Speaker 1: be a drone. That's what That's what Logan Makins was told. Well, 903 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 1: they traded him at the right time, you know, go 904 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,759 Speaker 1: to the Jets and be a personality. I like that. 905 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 1: He that he decided to retire though on the day 906 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,840 Speaker 1: of Peyton Mannings retirement, so no one it's a Logan 907 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:41,759 Speaker 1: Makings type of move so that no one would notice 908 00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:45,319 Speaker 1: classic Mankins, are you? I mean I used to black 909 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,760 Speaker 1: for our guy, David Carr, NFL Network colleague, thirteen months 910 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,360 Speaker 1: after the fact. When you look back, now, would you 911 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,719 Speaker 1: rather the Seahawks of one a second straight Super Bowl 912 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 1: over the Patriots. I I was fine how it played 913 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:03,320 Speaker 1: out because I didn't like that Seahawks team. Uh, you know, 914 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,279 Speaker 1: it was kind of a deal with the devil. I 915 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,560 Speaker 1: was screwed either way, but it was fine whatever. Like 916 00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,360 Speaker 1: I like Brady, I do honestly do things. I respect 917 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,920 Speaker 1: him a lot as a player, and so I him 918 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,839 Speaker 1: winning that one more title. I've talked to Greg many 919 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,480 Speaker 1: times about the Jeter Brady parallels and how that was 920 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,800 Speaker 1: an important title for Brady. I'm just ready for it 921 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,120 Speaker 1: to be over now, none, none of this. I just 922 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 1: don't want to be playing. Peter equals Brady, Peyton equals Kobe. 923 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,840 Speaker 1: Thank you and good night. Like that. You've got years 924 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:36,560 Speaker 1: to go before Brady leaves. The NFL doesn't even use weights, 925 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,920 Speaker 1: to use elastic bands. His body is rubber. A flashed 926 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,240 Speaker 1: up a graphic today about when all these legendary quarterbacks 927 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,120 Speaker 1: are tired. Thirty A, thirty A, thirty eight, thirty nine, 928 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,080 Speaker 1: far forty one, and it's done at forty one. Brady 929 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:50,719 Speaker 1: will be thirty nine this year, and I know it's 930 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:55,200 Speaker 1: impossible for anyone to fathom him falling off, but mankind 931 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,600 Speaker 1: tells us otherwise. I think I haven't expected it for years, 932 00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,239 Speaker 1: but it hasn't happened. Just crazy. And by the way, 933 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:05,160 Speaker 1: the the Jeter Brady off the field. Okay, that makes sense, 934 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 1: But with all respect to Jeter, no one talked about 935 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,799 Speaker 1: him as the greatest player of all time or one 936 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,120 Speaker 1: of the couple greatest players of all time. Jeter is 937 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,239 Speaker 1: not in the same class as Brady as a as 938 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:21,279 Speaker 1: a player, or any baseball player. There's a bayer I'm saying, 939 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,480 Speaker 1: but wasn't a top five player in Major League Baseball 940 00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,239 Speaker 1: for ten straight? Oh? I don't know. I think I 941 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:30,319 Speaker 1: think Derek Jeter's regarded in the conversation for best shortstop. Ever, 942 00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,360 Speaker 1: Brady's in the conversation for best. Is a vital position, 943 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,000 Speaker 1: and it's much harder to be an NFL quarterback than 944 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,840 Speaker 1: any baseball player. Kobe and uh and Peyton, though, have 945 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,560 Speaker 1: have this in common. They both gave themselves nicknames midway 946 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,560 Speaker 1: or late in their respective careers, which is very well, 947 00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,880 Speaker 1: it is yourself a weird a nickname. Who does that? 948 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,160 Speaker 1: I thought Gruden gave it to him. Whatever, the sheriff, 949 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,400 Speaker 1: Where did that come from? It did come out of nowhere. 950 00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,239 Speaker 1: I went thirty two. You shouldn't get a nickname. I 951 00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,200 Speaker 1: was on Pro Football Focus yesterday and I was on 952 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:05,520 Speaker 1: this page and somehow the caveman is also references a nickname. 953 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,760 Speaker 1: If anybody else plugged in on this, for Peyton Manning, 954 00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:15,400 Speaker 1: it's the sheriff, Comma the caveman. Alright, that's what's happening 955 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,600 Speaker 1: in the news. Let's now move on. Uh, we've done 956 00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:22,680 Speaker 1: this for a couple of years now. Where before ten 957 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:27,400 Speaker 1: pole league events or or signing periods, we we we 958 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:31,920 Speaker 1: test our football acumen or knowledge of the game. Uh, 959 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,080 Speaker 1: in a game we like to call, go get my 960 00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:39,760 Speaker 1: lunch your tub of barth. So we're gonna go around. 961 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,200 Speaker 1: Let's do to each and maybe a third if you 962 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,520 Speaker 1: got some onions to hang um, and we could either 963 00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,160 Speaker 1: agree with you on your prediction about free agency or 964 00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:52,799 Speaker 1: we could challenge your prediction. And uh, let's say, uh, 965 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:56,000 Speaker 1: if if that person that throughout the prediction is correct, 966 00:48:56,239 --> 00:49:00,719 Speaker 1: they win sandwiches sandwiches off all the people that challenge them. 967 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,440 Speaker 1: And if they lose that prediction that they have to 968 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,840 Speaker 1: pay out sandwiches, and you can check out the updated 969 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,840 Speaker 1: standings on Go get my Lunch dot org. Nick Fortier 970 00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,160 Speaker 1: runs that page. He does great work on it. Uh 971 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,960 Speaker 1: so let's get going, Mark, I know you need to 972 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,920 Speaker 1: hit the road soon, so we get by lunch. Heriff 973 00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,359 Speaker 1: Caveman of oh Maha, how's that one? Does that work? Yes? 974 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:26,960 Speaker 1: That works. I'm going to tradition open with an overly 975 00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:31,759 Speaker 1: complex one that will be wrong. Okay, well that's a 976 00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:35,399 Speaker 1: good start, all right. The Browns and Jaguars in free 977 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:39,560 Speaker 1: agency will switch centers. Alex mac will join the Jaguars 978 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:43,680 Speaker 1: as their starting center, and Stephen Wisnowski will join the Browns. 979 00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:48,200 Speaker 1: Go get my Lunch. I definitely, I'll definitely take that. 980 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,480 Speaker 1: What do you get that specific? That's by the way, 981 00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,359 Speaker 1: it comes with one to three odds. If I get 982 00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,800 Speaker 1: it right, I get three sandwiches. Who says that I 983 00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:56,400 Speaker 1: did right now? Thank you for taking well, But it 984 00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,680 Speaker 1: is that even what count as an onion hang because 985 00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:00,719 Speaker 1: in the history of this game, it's always proven the 986 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,920 Speaker 1: more specific you get about where a guy's line, especially 987 00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:05,759 Speaker 1: if we're trying to do too You got a good 988 00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,200 Speaker 1: chance of getting banged. I like it out of respect 989 00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:09,800 Speaker 1: for that mark. I'm taking it, and I hope I 990 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:13,520 Speaker 1: hope you get it. I hope you But I'm sleeping 991 00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:18,719 Speaker 1: through that that lunch period trading centers. Yeah, but this 992 00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,879 Speaker 1: is you getting. This is you just getting from sign 993 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:25,600 Speaker 1: up for this heat. Yeah, so Jackson is forma take 994 00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 1: him up on that? Or do you agree that those 995 00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:32,960 Speaker 1: centers will switch homes one to three odds? Uh? So wait, 996 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,319 Speaker 1: I'm required to go one way or the other. Yes, 997 00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,680 Speaker 1: I'll go against then, yeah, I'll go Okay, that's that 998 00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:40,960 Speaker 1: is awfully so well. He can also not take it, 999 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,200 Speaker 1: but yeah, yeah, you can agree with him and not 1000 00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:46,520 Speaker 1: take it, because you could not agree and not take 1001 00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:48,680 Speaker 1: it that you could just ignore the whole game. Yeah, 1002 00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:52,040 Speaker 1: I hear you know it does sound like Mac wants 1003 00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,440 Speaker 1: to go back to Cleveland. M We'll see, okay. So 1004 00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,239 Speaker 1: so yeah, so I'm gonna disagree with this. So the 1005 00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,879 Speaker 1: note there is mark three sound just a line check 1006 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:05,440 Speaker 1: your up? Well I we uh I already mentioned it. Um, 1007 00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:10,719 Speaker 1: I'll say it again now. On opening night, the home 1008 00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:14,120 Speaker 1: team wearing the orange jersey, the man who steps under 1009 00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,040 Speaker 1: center will be a man who's never worn that orange 1010 00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:20,719 Speaker 1: jersey before August, So you're doing it. I will take 1011 00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,400 Speaker 1: you Oswiler, no Peyton. I like it to be a 1012 00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,240 Speaker 1: new guy and it's s QB. It shows some savvy 1013 00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:30,840 Speaker 1: sandwich maneuvery that you didn't specifically name Ryan Fitzpatrick because 1014 00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,560 Speaker 1: that would that would be even tougher for three or 1015 00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,600 Speaker 1: any of the other guys that are out there. Someone 1016 00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,680 Speaker 1: new is starting. I will take you up on that, 1017 00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,320 Speaker 1: but I like it. It's an intriguing one. It was 1018 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:42,920 Speaker 1: the one I didn't have the guts. I didn't have 1019 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:46,080 Speaker 1: the onions to hang out like that you did. And 1020 00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,520 Speaker 1: uh the reason why ultimately I couldn't do it though, 1021 00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,800 Speaker 1: because I do think Brock will end up back in Denver. 1022 00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,239 Speaker 1: So I will take you on that, alright, be more 1023 00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,960 Speaker 1: sandwiches on the line or cook anywhere, Brandon behind the glass. 1024 00:51:57,920 --> 00:51:59,799 Speaker 1: This is not to a great start. Well, I yeah, 1025 00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,200 Speaker 1: it's tough for them not to be onion hangars in 1026 00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,440 Speaker 1: free agency. I found it. That's it's hard to not 1027 00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,480 Speaker 1: to make a prediction that's safe. I know Dan likes 1028 00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:12,840 Speaker 1: to try, but we'll see. Oh, please talk about juicy 1029 00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,960 Speaker 1: narratives before we get uh into my next one. Let's 1030 00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,600 Speaker 1: just do a quick around the horn one where we 1031 00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:24,440 Speaker 1: all make a prediction. Uh where, well, anybody have an 1032 00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:25,960 Speaker 1: Arian Foster one? I don't want to step on it. 1033 00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,520 Speaker 1: Where will Arian Foster play in ten? We all pick 1034 00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,200 Speaker 1: a team if the winner, if someone picks it the 1035 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,360 Speaker 1: rest of us, Oh, that guy sandwiches Mark Start, Gary 1036 00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:41,200 Speaker 1: Kubiak brings him to Denver. Alright, Arian Foster to the Broncos. 1037 00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,960 Speaker 1: I like that noise. You can join on that train, Yeah, 1038 00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,480 Speaker 1: I think you can't. You could get the same team. Yeah, 1039 00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,480 Speaker 1: we did last year with soon. I don't love that. 1040 00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:53,080 Speaker 1: Why you know that sounds good? You know what New 1041 00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:58,360 Speaker 1: England Patriots. Whenever there's a name free agent on the market, 1042 00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:00,600 Speaker 1: always someone has to think he's one of the Pats. 1043 00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:02,399 Speaker 1: But I'll tell you where he's going. He's gonna play 1044 00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:06,640 Speaker 1: with Thomas Rawls, with the Seattle Seahawks. I I like 1045 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,200 Speaker 1: that Broncos the answer, but I also like spreading it out. 1046 00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:13,080 Speaker 1: So let's go with the Cowboys. I think in state 1047 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,000 Speaker 1: and he got the Zona scheme there in a big name. 1048 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,640 Speaker 1: I think though you I think you've got the way. 1049 00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:22,080 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about who's gonna go after Aaron Foster? Matt 1050 00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,880 Speaker 1: Forte feels like a fit, perhaps, even though he's not 1051 00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,839 Speaker 1: the banger the Kubiak would want. But Aaron Foster at 1052 00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,560 Speaker 1: this point is not a sure thing to be able 1053 00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,400 Speaker 1: to be out on the field for twelve games a year. 1054 00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,279 Speaker 1: That doesn't seem like a well, it won't be Doug 1055 00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,560 Speaker 1: Martin money. But all right, here's my first one. All right, 1056 00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,759 Speaker 1: we got that one. Uh taking care of r G three, 1057 00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,759 Speaker 1: who we talked about earlier. And this is to mark 1058 00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:48,080 Speaker 1: your point that maybe he's not the two thousand twelve 1059 00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,360 Speaker 1: guy anymore. But I think a lot of teams and 1060 00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:53,560 Speaker 1: a and a quarterback hungry market will be interested in them, 1061 00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:55,960 Speaker 1: and maybe one team more than the rest. I think 1062 00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,279 Speaker 1: he signs a new deal within the first seventy two 1063 00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:02,040 Speaker 1: hours of free agency. Does anyone I want to take 1064 00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,080 Speaker 1: me up on that? Yeah? Three days, I will take 1065 00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:06,759 Speaker 1: you up to take you about that. I don't think, 1066 00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:10,120 Speaker 1: like I said, I had an argy three one two, uh. I, 1067 00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,360 Speaker 1: I don't think there's gonna be a ton of interest. 1068 00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:14,680 Speaker 1: He doesn't seem like a guy that's gonna go number. 1069 00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:19,400 Speaker 1: I think some of the chips need to fall, so 1070 00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,440 Speaker 1: that's why I'll take it. I think one significant one 1071 00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,759 Speaker 1: just did with Peyton's retirement. As I said, as I 1072 00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,960 Speaker 1: said two or three weeks ago, it makes sense even 1073 00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,400 Speaker 1: if you look at Peyton Manning. If you know, I 1074 00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:35,000 Speaker 1: think everybody the world over agrees d' angela Williams on 1075 00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:39,279 Speaker 1: down Peyton was used up last year. I think he was. 1076 00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,200 Speaker 1: He was a passenger and you know, an illustrious career, 1077 00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,480 Speaker 1: top eight quarterback of the Super Bowl era, top well, 1078 00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,719 Speaker 1: top nine or ten. Let's say I did that. I did. 1079 00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:52,160 Speaker 1: That's a fun shot. I did that for fun. Of 1080 00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,920 Speaker 1: course he's top six at worst, that's about right. But anyway, 1081 00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,160 Speaker 1: that's not insulting, you know what, saying that he could 1082 00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,959 Speaker 1: be out of the top five at all. I people 1083 00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:03,759 Speaker 1: get very like, why don't you sit out the check 1084 00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,400 Speaker 1: show today and get Adam ranked back in the building 1085 00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,840 Speaker 1: with check in studio sixty six, just the bang of 1086 00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,800 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning for sixties straight minutes. Stop it, listen. I 1087 00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:16,239 Speaker 1: want to tell you this. Here's the significant detail. Like 1088 00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,000 Speaker 1: you say, how the chips are gonna fall? I said 1089 00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:22,640 Speaker 1: this that Peyton Manning would make sense for the l 1090 00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:26,399 Speaker 1: A rams on from both parties. Peyton Manning, this thing 1091 00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,839 Speaker 1: about that Peyton Manning needs to step away. He won 1092 00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:33,000 Speaker 1: a title, and doesn't he understand what his legacy is. 1093 00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:35,480 Speaker 1: He doesn't care about that. In the same way that 1094 00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:37,880 Speaker 1: when people say, why does Robert de Niro make so 1095 00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,399 Speaker 1: many lousy movies at this point? Because it's a fun 1096 00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,200 Speaker 1: thing to do. Because it's a fun thing to be 1097 00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,520 Speaker 1: to be in the out on out on a shoot 1098 00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,480 Speaker 1: for three months and cracking wise and having fun. That's 1099 00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,960 Speaker 1: what that's the fun has to pay you for it. 1100 00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,680 Speaker 1: Here's my thought of lots of money. My faught of 1101 00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:54,759 Speaker 1: that is will Robert Griffin the third be signed in 1102 00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:58,160 Speaker 1: the first seventy two hours. The point is that if 1103 00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,080 Speaker 1: you're saying we have to wait and see how the 1104 00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,160 Speaker 1: chips fall, teams will have to do that. The l 1105 00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:05,080 Speaker 1: A Rams, what you learn from their interest in kicking 1106 00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,640 Speaker 1: the tires on Peyton and vice versa is they're looking 1107 00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,160 Speaker 1: to make some sort of weird kind of splash in 1108 00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,120 Speaker 1: year one in l A and r G three is 1109 00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,840 Speaker 1: a nice consolation prize after they looked at Peyton and realized, 1110 00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:17,640 Speaker 1: all right, this would just be a bad idea for us. 1111 00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:21,160 Speaker 1: R G three would certainly be exciting, if nothing else, 1112 00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,600 Speaker 1: If they could announce early in free agent say hey, 1113 00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,680 Speaker 1: look who we just signed. Ever, you're not taking them 1114 00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:27,320 Speaker 1: up on that. I'm gonna this one will be I 1115 00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,320 Speaker 1: I know I agree with I'm with him, and this 1116 00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,040 Speaker 1: will be quick because we've had our RG three disco. 1117 00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,400 Speaker 1: We haven't heard from Mark either yet. No, I am. 1118 00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:36,440 Speaker 1: I'm with Greg. I'm gonna take you up on that 1119 00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:38,920 Speaker 1: because I think it will happen. It's not gonna be 1120 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:40,600 Speaker 1: in the middle of the summer. Pointing at me, I 1121 00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,239 Speaker 1: am pointing at you. I'm sorry to upset you. I 1122 00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,319 Speaker 1: think it's gonna take a little bit longer than second too. 1123 00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:47,320 Speaker 1: But I'm terrible this game. So who knows. Well, I 1124 00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,640 Speaker 1: was going my RG three one, you know, I thought 1125 00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:51,840 Speaker 1: of it, threw it in there during the show that 1126 00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:53,959 Speaker 1: he will sign as a clear backup. Because you guys 1127 00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,759 Speaker 1: seem to disagree with that, I'm gonna say he's he's 1128 00:56:56,760 --> 00:57:01,200 Speaker 1: gonna sign behind an established starter. So if it's case Key, 1129 00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:04,160 Speaker 1: if he's competing to start, or it's case Keenum, and 1130 00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,319 Speaker 1: even they call Keenum the starter, I'll give you. You're 1131 00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:11,520 Speaker 1: saying what I'm talking about, that he has a backup QB. Well, 1132 00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:13,800 Speaker 1: there's no way he believes and then give me your sandwich. 1133 00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:18,080 Speaker 1: I am I think that he's that's fine. Jump at 1134 00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,320 Speaker 1: an offer to be a starting QB and he will 1135 00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:25,560 Speaker 1: get one mark you would like before let's that's halftime. Yeah, 1136 00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:29,080 Speaker 1: I think we should. It only makes sense because he 1137 00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,160 Speaker 1: is one of the heroes to check in with. Chris 1138 00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:35,080 Speaker 1: Wesling maybe wants to get involved with throwing out a 1139 00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:39,240 Speaker 1: sandwich prop and I could. There's only one place where 1140 00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,000 Speaker 1: you can have a I would say a seventy five 1141 00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:45,200 Speaker 1: percent chance of finding West when he's not in l A. 1142 00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,640 Speaker 1: And that is, of course, Mark Huckapoos. Oh yeah, I 1143 00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:51,560 Speaker 1: mean it's it's either Los Angeles or hucka Poos. There 1144 00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,520 Speaker 1: is no in between. Got a bullet train that took 1145 00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:57,120 Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens down to get there? How is that 1146 00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,760 Speaker 1: coming along? By the way? Uh slow, because we could 1147 00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,479 Speaker 1: not get the We couldn't dissolve the Ravens as quickly 1148 00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:04,960 Speaker 1: as we thought. So famously as a crazy skift, you 1149 00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:08,400 Speaker 1: gave West at least the blueprint for a plan to 1150 00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:12,919 Speaker 1: connect Los Angeles to Tybee Island on an underground train. 1151 00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,800 Speaker 1: A bullet train. The money needed would have we would 1152 00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,600 Speaker 1: have had to basically take the Baltimore Ravens, remove them 1153 00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:22,080 Speaker 1: from the league, dissolve all funds, and that's gone. There's 1154 00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:25,000 Speaker 1: been issues there always seem like a tenuous connection between 1155 00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:29,760 Speaker 1: the Ravens connection. Do we have one with? This is? Uh? 1156 00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:35,720 Speaker 1: Here we go? Hi? Is Chris Westling available? This is 1157 00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,600 Speaker 1: Dan Hanzs with the Around the NFL Podcast. Is Chris 1158 00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:47,000 Speaker 1: Westling available? Yeah? Oh gosh, I'm so sorry? What what 1159 00:58:51,000 --> 00:59:00,720 Speaker 1: time is it? Hello? Hello, Chris Westling. This is Dan 1160 00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:04,920 Speaker 1: Hansis along with Mark Sessler, Dave Damaschek, and Greg Rosenhali 1161 00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:09,560 Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast. What's up in your chair? Oh? 1162 00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:11,760 Speaker 1: That's what an honor for me to have check in 1163 00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:14,880 Speaker 1: my chair? I wish I was there in Hucka Poos 1164 00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:18,080 Speaker 1: with you west Check. What are all these big buildings 1165 00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:23,720 Speaker 1: on this island? West? Uh? Ain't gone commercial? And main 1166 00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:27,240 Speaker 1: came in there and bought up my beautiful time out 1167 00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:30,200 Speaker 1: doing Hey, I got a quick story to tell you guys, 1168 00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:31,800 Speaker 1: and then I have to hang up. All right? So 1169 00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:37,880 Speaker 1: he left at the bar lan night. Oh no, I 1170 00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,480 Speaker 1: put it up with the clothes pin. Wait. So you 1171 00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,560 Speaker 1: so you're sitting at the bar and and what happens 1172 00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,480 Speaker 1: to take us through this. Well last night, like the 1173 00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:50,000 Speaker 1: big typee bar Lympics were last night, so it was 1174 00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:53,680 Speaker 1: like an island wide. Nobody's ever seen anything, dude this 1175 00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:58,760 Speaker 1: before because it's a weird competition. Adults join, like bar Olympics. 1176 00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,960 Speaker 1: It's really weird. Yeah. And then some woman left her teeth. 1177 01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:07,680 Speaker 1: Did you just started her on a podcast? Did she 1178 01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:13,200 Speaker 1: collect them? I cannot hear you guys paying up? Also, 1179 01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:15,680 Speaker 1: I don't want to incriminate myself. All right, well, Chris, 1180 01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:18,400 Speaker 1: we just wanted that sounds like you're alive and having 1181 01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:21,120 Speaker 1: fun at your favorite place in the world. Come back 1182 01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:25,920 Speaker 1: to us soon, alright, buddy, alright, alright, well see you later. 1183 01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:28,800 Speaker 1: I believe him, by the way when he says maybe 1184 01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:30,960 Speaker 1: one of these times, Greg and I think it just 1185 01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,480 Speaker 1: you should have some people on a short list. Uh, 1186 01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:36,200 Speaker 1: one of these times he's not coming back. Oh you, 1187 01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,640 Speaker 1: there's a very good possibility of that, and it's not 1188 01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:40,800 Speaker 1: gonna be like anything spiteful. Like there was a guy, 1189 01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,400 Speaker 1: an editor or desk editor that I heard through the 1190 01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:46,520 Speaker 1: grapevine just stopped coming to work this week and sent 1191 01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:48,840 Speaker 1: an email saying he was quitting and then didn't even 1192 01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:51,520 Speaker 1: and disconnected his phone. And email. So it wouldn't be 1193 01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:53,880 Speaker 1: anything like that. It would just be like we would understand, No, 1194 01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:56,400 Speaker 1: we'd be friends, and there's no replacing West. It's not 1195 01:00:56,520 --> 01:01:01,440 Speaker 1: like I have a list of football savants with a 1196 01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:08,160 Speaker 1: deep knowledge of seventies television shows. That Yeah, he seems okay. 1197 01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:10,200 Speaker 1: I was worried that he'd become back in the box. 1198 01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:11,960 Speaker 1: He's in the lap of luxury. I mean, he's just 1199 01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:15,960 Speaker 1: surrounded by all his island friends and he's probably you know, 1200 01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:18,240 Speaker 1: six or seven sheets to the wind about that check, though, 1201 01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:20,280 Speaker 1: I don't want to be pessimistic, but I mean thinking 1202 01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:22,360 Speaker 1: what he was trying to get at was that he 1203 01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:25,240 Speaker 1: found the love of his life when he comes back, 1204 01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:28,880 Speaker 1: much like Cinderella with the glass slipper when she comes 1205 01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,840 Speaker 1: back looking for those teeth. Hey, I got your back, 1206 01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:35,280 Speaker 1: cuspids right here. I would like to have your hand 1207 01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:38,200 Speaker 1: in marriage. That's a white hot theory. How about that check. 1208 01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:41,280 Speaker 1: By the way, the idea of having like this special 1209 01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:44,160 Speaker 1: like Narnia that you could call home and always want 1210 01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:45,720 Speaker 1: to go back to. Do you have something like that? 1211 01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:50,400 Speaker 1: Is that Pittsburgh is at Chicago, l A, Bloomington, Indiana. 1212 01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:54,520 Speaker 1: Yes I have. I'm lucky to have special destinations within 1213 01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:57,000 Speaker 1: each of the towns that I lived in, and yeah, 1214 01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:02,360 Speaker 1: for many moons throughout the throughout the early twenty one century, 1215 01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:06,040 Speaker 1: I spent four to six nights a week at tom 1216 01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:09,200 Speaker 1: Bergen's before the man took that place over. Uh my 1217 01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:12,000 Speaker 1: U pal and I threw it on each and every 1218 01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:17,000 Speaker 1: night there, but on put on wild scenes. Yeah, I 1219 01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:19,600 Speaker 1: don't really have a place like that. We uh you know, 1220 01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:22,480 Speaker 1: in our earlier uh days in NFL dot com, we 1221 01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:24,600 Speaker 1: got to know the cozy quite well. But I wouldn't 1222 01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:26,560 Speaker 1: ever call that a place that would be a place 1223 01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:29,400 Speaker 1: that I would dream of. It was just a comfort 1224 01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:31,320 Speaker 1: zone for a bar at a time in my life. 1225 01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:33,320 Speaker 1: L A is tough. I mean, it offers probably the 1226 01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:35,560 Speaker 1: best selection of bars of any town I've lived in. 1227 01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:38,720 Speaker 1: But Denver's got to be George Kielles on the Upper 1228 01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:42,880 Speaker 1: West Side one amsterday in my uh twenties. That was 1229 01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:45,040 Speaker 1: a place that I loved. Do you have a place? 1230 01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:48,000 Speaker 1: I mean, New Orleans would be my happy place in general. 1231 01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:50,520 Speaker 1: But I wouldn't say there's one bar that it's stuck. 1232 01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:52,360 Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of bars there that's stuck. 1233 01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:55,960 Speaker 1: All right, Good halftime discussion. Let's go one more time 1234 01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:57,520 Speaker 1: around the horn and then we'll get out of here. Mark, 1235 01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:00,840 Speaker 1: you could also leave after this one. If you go 1236 01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:04,040 Speaker 1: to out there, throw it too out? Why not to 1237 01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:07,040 Speaker 1: I'll give you two real fast one. Colin Kaepernick stays 1238 01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:12,600 Speaker 1: with the forty Niners. Hmm. That's a good one. That's 1239 01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:15,919 Speaker 1: a good one. Mark Gabbered under contract. I'm not gonna 1240 01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:17,959 Speaker 1: take that. I think in the end no one's gonna 1241 01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:20,760 Speaker 1: really want him, and they do want him and uh, 1242 01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:22,680 Speaker 1: and they're happy to pay him. So I think, I 1243 01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:27,240 Speaker 1: think you're right and stay away. I'm going to go 1244 01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:30,560 Speaker 1: against that one because there is at least one or 1245 01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,680 Speaker 1: there at least two teams I can think of that 1246 01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:35,880 Speaker 1: would love to have Colin Kaepernick and with the Night, 1247 01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:41,280 Speaker 1: you know, the the Domino's falling kind of thing. If 1248 01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:44,919 Speaker 1: Miles Jack slips to the Niners, I think they're gonna 1249 01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:49,640 Speaker 1: want to get him and and um, if he's not though, 1250 01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:54,000 Speaker 1: then Jared Golf is sitting there and the No Cal 1251 01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:56,240 Speaker 1: connection and all that makes some sense. If you have 1252 01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:58,919 Speaker 1: Gabbered and Golf, then they certainly would want to part 1253 01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,560 Speaker 1: ways with Bernicky. I say he's gone. I think the 1254 01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:05,400 Speaker 1: Rams are are a again back to what I said 1255 01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:07,440 Speaker 1: five minutes, I think they're they're anxious, just trying to 1256 01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:12,360 Speaker 1: get somebody who is going to be splashy. I believe 1257 01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:14,320 Speaker 1: he will still be in San Francisco, so I will 1258 01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:15,600 Speaker 1: not take you up on it. Do you want me 1259 01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:17,840 Speaker 1: to leave my last one before I go? If you'd 1260 01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:20,680 Speaker 1: like to throw it out, yes, at least two quarterbacks 1261 01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:25,720 Speaker 1: will be traded before the draft. At least two quarterbacks. 1262 01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:29,840 Speaker 1: I just like to give sandwiches out to my friends, 1263 01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:32,080 Speaker 1: and so that's why I have anything like that's a 1264 01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:35,200 Speaker 1: weird one, because yeah, it could be too low level quarterbacks. 1265 01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:39,400 Speaker 1: It could be a big quarterback trade who knows, or 1266 01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:41,560 Speaker 1: no trades at all, like not a lot of trades. 1267 01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:46,040 Speaker 1: And that's just like picking balls from like a lottery pink. Again, 1268 01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:50,280 Speaker 1: I kind of call that a faux onion hanger because 1269 01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:52,480 Speaker 1: it seems like hanger, But then you think about it 1270 01:04:52,520 --> 01:05:00,400 Speaker 1: a little bit more hanger because quarterbacks get t last. 1271 01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:02,800 Speaker 1: You just said there's no logic or information behind it. 1272 01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:06,000 Speaker 1: Now you're assigning odds to it. Well, I'm saying there's 1273 01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:08,120 Speaker 1: no like you can't predict. Oh, this is gonna be 1274 01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:10,880 Speaker 1: a big, heavy quarterback trade here. Well, it's a vague one, 1275 01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:17,240 Speaker 1: but last year two quarterbacks are three. I believe correctly. 1276 01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:20,479 Speaker 1: I could see my Glennon moving, I could see Kaepernick moving. 1277 01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:25,960 Speaker 1: We've been thinking Mike Lennon's moving since I feel like, um, 1278 01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:30,360 Speaker 1: I will say yeah, because because you know, if you've 1279 01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:34,800 Speaker 1: assumed four three and a half qbs per roster thirty 1280 01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:38,120 Speaker 1: two teams, it seems statistically likely that he built in 1281 01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:40,360 Speaker 1: a trapdoor on this too. You didn't put a time 1282 01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:42,880 Speaker 1: element on it to said before the draft, I'll take 1283 01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:46,840 Speaker 1: you up on it. Why not, I'll take you alright, Mark, 1284 01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:51,360 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you for everything you do. Mark heading 1285 01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:57,920 Speaker 1: off into the great unknown. Say hid everybody at post 1286 01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:01,919 Speaker 1: by buddy. Alright, so Mark is out, let's um throw 1287 01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:06,440 Speaker 1: out his answers offline too, for we do okay, alright, 1288 01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:09,960 Speaker 1: check go ahead, Peyton Manning. For all the buzz about 1289 01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:13,320 Speaker 1: which network he's gonna at, which network he is going 1290 01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:16,720 Speaker 1: to land, We'll land at no network to talk about 1291 01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:20,240 Speaker 1: other football players. Instead, he's going to go the John 1292 01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:23,560 Speaker 1: Elway route, and before the draft he will be announced 1293 01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:28,680 Speaker 1: in a John Elway style role by a professional that's 1294 01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:32,640 Speaker 1: an onion hanger and I'll definitely take you. But because 1295 01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:35,400 Speaker 1: did you watch his press conference today in full, he 1296 01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:37,920 Speaker 1: sounded like a dude that was gonna step away for 1297 01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:41,080 Speaker 1: at least a few months. It sounded that like that 1298 01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:44,120 Speaker 1: to me. For him to join an organization before the draft, 1299 01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:45,720 Speaker 1: that would mean he'd have to be kind of plugged 1300 01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:49,200 Speaker 1: in on some level prior to the draft, at some 1301 01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:51,680 Speaker 1: like at least a month, you think, So, I think 1302 01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:53,480 Speaker 1: I could see him doing it, but I don't think 1303 01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:56,640 Speaker 1: it's happening this quickly. Do you think Peyton Manning, from 1304 01:06:56,680 --> 01:07:00,600 Speaker 1: what you've gleaned from the past eighteen plus year, is 1305 01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:04,080 Speaker 1: somebody who likes to to uh to step out of 1306 01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:07,360 Speaker 1: the spotlight for any stretch of time. We don't know. 1307 01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:10,080 Speaker 1: I mean, it's the first time ever he's had an opportunity. 1308 01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:12,360 Speaker 1: I don't think he'll like to step out of football forever. 1309 01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:15,560 Speaker 1: So I can see him running The Saints would be 1310 01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:18,760 Speaker 1: a good one, or the Cults. But the timeline you're 1311 01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:23,040 Speaker 1: putty out with the Titans, it used to be like 1312 01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:25,280 Speaker 1: it would be next off season, like next January. So 1313 01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:28,880 Speaker 1: I could tell you Sessler, who just left, has a 1314 01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:31,120 Speaker 1: pipe dream that he goes because he's buddy buddy with 1315 01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:35,720 Speaker 1: Haslem apparently, and Peyton Manning immediately becomes John Elway for 1316 01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:39,040 Speaker 1: the Browns. Here's what's out there now. Listen, you know 1317 01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:41,720 Speaker 1: I've made I've made too much out of the story 1318 01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:43,720 Speaker 1: and has nothing to do with my opinion on Peyton. 1319 01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:46,000 Speaker 1: By the way, for the record, here's what I just 1320 01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:48,240 Speaker 1: want to say this because you always accused me hands 1321 01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:50,800 Speaker 1: as you need the charge of the damage. The biggest 1322 01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:53,040 Speaker 1: Peyton hater of all time. I don't think he's a 1323 01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:55,320 Speaker 1: joker as I As I've said, it's not like Dad's 1324 01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:58,520 Speaker 1: reading between the lines. Here to go, and I'm not alone. 1325 01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:03,800 Speaker 1: I've seen your Twitter because if you don't genuflect too 1326 01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:06,760 Speaker 1: high end professional athletes and you're a hater, but you 1327 01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:11,840 Speaker 1: can't beat you can't every team. It's very tasteful. It 1328 01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:19,680 Speaker 1: really was tastefully done. Tastefully. Umo Hayden is somebody who 1329 01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:23,720 Speaker 1: whatever it was two years or so ago, was I 1330 01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:26,160 Speaker 1: was about to interview him, and like you say, you're 1331 01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:27,760 Speaker 1: not the only one who knows it, but people like 1332 01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:31,040 Speaker 1: you have let it be known publicly a damage, A 1333 01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:37,120 Speaker 1: Peyton hater. I'm not a hater. I cited it in January. 1334 01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:39,639 Speaker 1: He's had his issues, and the and the numbers bear 1335 01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:42,519 Speaker 1: that out. His his team's record bears it out. But 1336 01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:46,120 Speaker 1: that's besides the point. He I know it's not actually 1337 01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:48,960 Speaker 1: because when I pointed that out one too many times, 1338 01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:52,280 Speaker 1: apparently he got wind of my name the same way 1339 01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:55,960 Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant does. These guys, they're certain professional athletes to say, oh, 1340 01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:58,200 Speaker 1: I don't hear what the media says. Peyton and Kobe 1341 01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:00,439 Speaker 1: do hear it, and then they resent the as media 1342 01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:04,640 Speaker 1: members who say something. Anyhow, one time, Peyton, I was 1343 01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:07,200 Speaker 1: scheduled to do an interview with the the story to 1344 01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:09,760 Speaker 1: come out. Check it's come out already, but I'm gonna 1345 01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:11,800 Speaker 1: just share it again. But because it leads to a 1346 01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:16,120 Speaker 1: larger point, Peyton they I was watching this on camera. So, 1347 01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:18,519 Speaker 1: so who do we have next years? All right, it's 1348 01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:21,759 Speaker 1: the NFL media. First, it's Dan Helly from Total Access. 1349 01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:24,640 Speaker 1: Then it's Dave Damnaschik and Peyton goes without batting and 1350 01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:26,439 Speaker 1: I now killed the Damna scheck when I'm not doing 1351 01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:31,960 Speaker 1: that one. So isn't that one of the highlights of 1352 01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:34,439 Speaker 1: your career? In a yeah, yeah it is. And my 1353 01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:37,040 Speaker 1: point is, and damn a sec of all people, I 1354 01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:40,680 Speaker 1: mean you do not take slights easily. Wouldn't you be 1355 01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:43,360 Speaker 1: the same way as Peyton Manning? I have said many 1356 01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:45,840 Speaker 1: times that's exactly how I would. Okay, if I ever 1357 01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:50,960 Speaker 1: win an Academy award, which is probably probably probably that 1358 01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:54,200 Speaker 1: I will, I I can assure you I will devote 1359 01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:59,439 Speaker 1: nine seven percent of the time to calling out people. Yeah, 1360 01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:03,600 Speaker 1: I would would. Hey, everybody who has supported me, you 1361 01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:05,080 Speaker 1: know who you are, and I'm gonna get in touch 1362 01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:08,400 Speaker 1: with you one by one like Peyton did on text messages. 1363 01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:11,320 Speaker 1: But I'll let you all know and I'll give you thanks. 1364 01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:12,840 Speaker 1: But right now I want to use my time to 1365 01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:14,960 Speaker 1: talk about all those people who tried to keep me down. 1366 01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:17,360 Speaker 1: That's what I would do. But the point is, if 1367 01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:20,960 Speaker 1: Peyton doesn't like people saying bad about pro football players, 1368 01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:23,760 Speaker 1: then the logic stands that he's not gonna want to 1369 01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:26,840 Speaker 1: do that on ESPN or NFL Network or anywhere else. 1370 01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:28,400 Speaker 1: He's not gonna want to go out and take shots 1371 01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:31,040 Speaker 1: at other pro football players, so it doesn't suit him 1372 01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:34,120 Speaker 1: to be a commentator. Does that logic stand? I just, 1373 01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:35,960 Speaker 1: you know what, there's a lot of logic to what 1374 01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:37,960 Speaker 1: you say, Dave, but it's just, you know, I really 1375 01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:41,840 Speaker 1: hope it wasn't gonna go down this road today. I 1376 01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:45,160 Speaker 1: didn't take it anyway. He's got a whole another show. 1377 01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:47,960 Speaker 1: And by the way, now that Mark has left, there 1378 01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:49,960 Speaker 1: was an open share and we are now running into 1379 01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:54,080 Speaker 1: the Damna check program time slot. Henry Hot, this is 1380 01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:58,920 Speaker 1: the crossover podcast. This isn't the DDP then, no, this is? 1381 01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:09,720 Speaker 1: This is? Or is it? Start the show? It's a takeover? Oh, 1382 01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:14,240 Speaker 1: I knew I shouldn't up trust that. All right, we 1383 01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:17,519 Speaker 1: have let's we're gonna get out of here. Two more sandwich. 1384 01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:20,200 Speaker 1: You're welcome to stay. And by the way, Henry, since 1385 01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:23,439 Speaker 1: you're here already, handsome Hank, I know we've now crossed over. 1386 01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:27,400 Speaker 1: You can get in on these sandwich props if you wish. 1387 01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:34,960 Speaker 1: Uh go get my lunch friend. That's nice, it's friendly. Okay, 1388 01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:37,800 Speaker 1: here we go. I'm gonna get specific. You always get 1389 01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:39,840 Speaker 1: in trouble when you get specific. But what the hell, 1390 01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:42,160 Speaker 1: I'm hanging some money in a big spot. Matt Forte 1391 01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:46,360 Speaker 1: to the jets boom, just like that. I'll take you 1392 01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:51,439 Speaker 1: by that. I'll take that out of principle one for Henry, 1393 01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:53,040 Speaker 1: because he come in. You don't have to make your own. 1394 01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:55,280 Speaker 1: I'll make my own if you want me to, but 1395 01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:57,360 Speaker 1: I'll definitely take dance. Is that I'm trying. I'm just 1396 01:11:57,400 --> 01:12:00,559 Speaker 1: trying to run through because if you think about history 1397 01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:06,040 Speaker 1: of coordinators, is he the style back the chan would covet. 1398 01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:09,960 Speaker 1: I went through this in an earlier podcast, that he's 1399 01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:12,160 Speaker 1: a receiving back, maybe the best receiving back in the 1400 01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:16,240 Speaker 1: last ten years. Uh, their entire backfield there, Powell and 1401 01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:19,320 Speaker 1: Ivor out the door. They definitely want to mix it up. 1402 01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:20,760 Speaker 1: I think you're going in a different direction. I don't 1403 01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:22,519 Speaker 1: think Matt four table will cost a lot, and I 1404 01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:24,800 Speaker 1: think the Jets want a third receiver they can trust 1405 01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:27,240 Speaker 1: a pair with Marshall and Decker. That's why I think 1406 01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:29,360 Speaker 1: it's gonna happen. Yeah. But and they're also going to 1407 01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:33,080 Speaker 1: be transitioning away from Ryan Fitzpatrick, as we've already discussed. 1408 01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:35,519 Speaker 1: If that happens, by the way, they're just gonna they'll 1409 01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:40,080 Speaker 1: go in a totally different directions. How about that. I 1410 01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:42,800 Speaker 1: would like I would like for you to make a 1411 01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:46,439 Speaker 1: real sandwich bad here with your heart this time. That's 1412 01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:48,680 Speaker 1: what my heart is on this. Do you do you 1413 01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:50,760 Speaker 1: really mean what you say that you'll turn your back 1414 01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:53,519 Speaker 1: on the Jets if they if they let Ryan fitz Pas, 1415 01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:55,280 Speaker 1: I would turn my back on it. I'm saying I 1416 01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:57,679 Speaker 1: think the Jets might go in a totally different direction 1417 01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:02,080 Speaker 1: and not and just trade Wilkerson, you know, get try 1418 01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:04,000 Speaker 1: to get out of drill re versus contract and they'll 1419 01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:06,120 Speaker 1: just start over if they don't have a quarterback next year, 1420 01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:08,840 Speaker 1: So when now team in quarterback, but if they don't 1421 01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:11,960 Speaker 1: have the guy that they signed, like as an afterthought, yeah, 1422 01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:14,439 Speaker 1: that was a long time. Let's just say yea. Let's 1423 01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:17,400 Speaker 1: stay on point here. Matt for Forte to the Jets, Greg, 1424 01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:23,519 Speaker 1: you took it check. I'm gonna say I'll go against 1425 01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:26,160 Speaker 1: that one because because of the specificity that's going to 1426 01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:29,040 Speaker 1: come back. Yes, it probably will. Hank, as a longtime 1427 01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:31,760 Speaker 1: listener of the Around the NFL podcast, I know that 1428 01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:33,519 Speaker 1: this is one that you've made with your heart, you 1429 01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:36,400 Speaker 1: desperately want. This never goes well, never goes well, nor 1430 01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:39,240 Speaker 1: does the specifics. I'm definitely taking it. Okay, Well, we're 1431 01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:40,880 Speaker 1: trying to we're trying to make up a little more 1432 01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:43,439 Speaker 1: difficult as we go. Do you have one, Hank, I 1433 01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:46,360 Speaker 1: mean not planned out, but I think I have one somewhere. 1434 01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:47,840 Speaker 1: You're the one I didn't do, the one that you 1435 01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:50,160 Speaker 1: and I were talking about. So you can throw that ony. Okay, Well, 1436 01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:52,479 Speaker 1: in that case, Check and I were talking before. He 1437 01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:55,240 Speaker 1: you know, he likes to prepare for every show. Oh yeah, 1438 01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:57,560 Speaker 1: that's something we know about, Dave. So what all the 1439 01:13:57,680 --> 01:14:01,280 Speaker 1: quarterbacks that we business the right way? Right? A lot 1440 01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:05,240 Speaker 1: of preparations and so all the quarterbacks that we've been 1441 01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:08,479 Speaker 1: talking about during the free agency period, right, Sam Bradford 1442 01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:12,120 Speaker 1: just got resigned last week, Um, Colin Kabinett, We've been 1443 01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:17,120 Speaker 1: talking about, like when we move around brock Oswailer, who else? Um, 1444 01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:22,080 Speaker 1: Chase Daniel, Um, who was the there's one of the names. Oh, 1445 01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:25,680 Speaker 1: I'm Ryan Fitzpatrick. None of those guys will take the 1446 01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:28,880 Speaker 1: team that they wind up signing with, whether they resigned 1447 01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:31,720 Speaker 1: with their old teams or not. None of them will 1448 01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:34,479 Speaker 1: take their team to the playoffs. That's an onion hanger 1449 01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:37,240 Speaker 1: just because of the math. The amount of this is, 1450 01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:40,360 Speaker 1: this is this is a log. It's a lot longer. 1451 01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:44,120 Speaker 1: It's not a it's not one that next week I 1452 01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:48,000 Speaker 1: will But all the quarterbacks that we've been talking about 1453 01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:55,000 Speaker 1: during this free agency offseason period fits cap Chase, Daniel 1454 01:14:55,720 --> 01:15:02,120 Speaker 1: Um Bradford, Bradford, Oswailer. There are five. None of them 1455 01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:06,760 Speaker 1: will make the plan, none of the regards to Houston. 1456 01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:11,280 Speaker 1: If Caps gets traded to the Jets, Twitter, you can 1457 01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:13,080 Speaker 1: throw a G three in there as well. Wait, even 1458 01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:16,400 Speaker 1: if ass Westlers Osweiler stays in Denver wherever they wind up, 1459 01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:18,120 Speaker 1: none of those guys are going to I'll take you 1460 01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:20,599 Speaker 1: on that. Thank you for the sandwich Jackson Market, please 1461 01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:23,639 Speaker 1: beef brisket. Fine right, I'm not the reason to get 1462 01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:27,439 Speaker 1: over excited about. Why is that the Broncos are a 1463 01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:30,040 Speaker 1: lock for the playoffs next year? But I'll take my 1464 01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:32,439 Speaker 1: chances with all those guys. I'm just saying, here come 1465 01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:35,080 Speaker 1: the Raiders. I'm just trying to have some fun, That's all, 1466 01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:37,439 Speaker 1: all right. I'm sorry I got too excited. No, I know, 1467 01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:40,719 Speaker 1: but it seemed like it came from a dark place, 1468 01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:43,640 Speaker 1: and for somebody who seems to revel and and and 1469 01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:47,320 Speaker 1: what you and what you alleges is a hatred for 1470 01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:50,960 Speaker 1: one of the legends of pro football. I don't hate you, 1471 01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:52,960 Speaker 1: know what it is actually handsome and I were talking 1472 01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:55,920 Speaker 1: about this earlier today. I did offer as well, but 1473 01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:59,559 Speaker 1: he never tired to finally admit his hatred for pain 1474 01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:03,880 Speaker 1: true their players when you're growing up and as a 1475 01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:06,240 Speaker 1: grown up, there players when you watch sports that you 1476 01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:09,160 Speaker 1: vibe to. I just didn't vibe the Paton Manning's way. 1477 01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:12,439 Speaker 1: He was surgical, it was admirable. He just didn't speak 1478 01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:14,920 Speaker 1: to me in the gut. You know. I like gunslingers. 1479 01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:17,800 Speaker 1: That's what I like better. That's it, all right, I'm 1480 01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:20,240 Speaker 1: just telling what your let's close with, Greg, I'll just 1481 01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:24,160 Speaker 1: throw them out there. The Around the NFL podcast with 1482 01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:27,720 Speaker 1: Dave damashek on the day the Peyton Manning retires will 1483 01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:30,240 Speaker 1: be the longest Round the NFL podcast of the year. 1484 01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:36,280 Speaker 1: Everyone will take that one, just even with will be 1485 01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:38,519 Speaker 1: the longest I got. I got no one to take 1486 01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:42,320 Speaker 1: me on that one. Okay, finally, Greg, I will go. 1487 01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:46,679 Speaker 1: I had a couple left. Let's see. Olivier Vernon gets 1488 01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:50,439 Speaker 1: the most guaranteed money of any player in free agency. Wow, 1489 01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:55,639 Speaker 1: what the hell? Interesting? He is number hang number four 1490 01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:58,400 Speaker 1: on the top, number two, number two behind the Leek 1491 01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:02,240 Speaker 1: Jackson was going to get a ton Yeah, he would 1492 01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:05,120 Speaker 1: probably be my next pick. But I think Vernon's sexier. 1493 01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:07,240 Speaker 1: I could see him getting more guaranteed money because he 1494 01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:10,080 Speaker 1: is a sexier. He's a pass rusher. People like pass rushers. 1495 01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:13,160 Speaker 1: Team pay for post rushing, but more than Doug Martin 1496 01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:17,360 Speaker 1: will get a relatively young Martin running back. What about 1497 01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:19,560 Speaker 1: like Jennar Jenki won't even be in the Yeah, that 1498 01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:22,599 Speaker 1: that's an option. You know, Bradford already got a decent 1499 01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:25,439 Speaker 1: amount that's in the I'll take you. I'll take the 1500 01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:28,720 Speaker 1: field COLLECTI semily maybe you'll get it a lot. I mean, 1501 01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:34,560 Speaker 1: it's not exciting how old he now, thirty, It's I 1502 01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:38,559 Speaker 1: mean it's a tough one. I'm just yeah, taking one 1503 01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:43,920 Speaker 1: versus the field field field. Ye, I actually think that 1504 01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:46,679 Speaker 1: this could easily. I think it will happen. I agree 1505 01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:50,200 Speaker 1: with Greg. I like that. So a player that's so valuable. 1506 01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:52,880 Speaker 1: I don't think it's not. But I just think he'll 1507 01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:54,840 Speaker 1: get that much. My I was trying to build. I 1508 01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:57,800 Speaker 1: was trying to build towards a Dolphins stick. But I'm 1509 01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:01,519 Speaker 1: sorry I would have wan missed a couple of years ago. 1510 01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:08,679 Speaker 1: Who come on, Brandon, get on that rush for gyros Bird. 1511 01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:12,960 Speaker 1: Whenever gyros Bird is mentioned, you gotta drop it. Listen, 1512 01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:17,960 Speaker 1: he's working towards it. Okay, all right, we gotta get 1513 01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:19,240 Speaker 1: out of here. I'm not gonna lie. I didn't even 1514 01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:21,000 Speaker 1: hear what you guys are saying. I think it's exciting 1515 01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:25,000 Speaker 1: to think that we're just I don't even want you 1516 01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:27,320 Speaker 1: to stop. I just hope you make it like a drop, 1517 01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:30,400 Speaker 1: say you're goodbye, and then go straight into d DFP 1518 01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:33,679 Speaker 1: music and let's do it all over again. That would 1519 01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:37,240 Speaker 1: be your start. You're staying here, hands jokes on you. 1520 01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:39,760 Speaker 1: You're to lock the door now, you just can't leave. 1521 01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:49,840 Speaker 1: Hit the music back. Let's we're taking back control of 1522 01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:52,559 Speaker 1: the show. That's it. You're gonna have your your check show, 1523 01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:56,720 Speaker 1: and we love it. It's you know, I'm famously it's 1524 01:18:56,720 --> 01:19:00,439 Speaker 1: Greg can a test prickly about other podcasts don't feel 1525 01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:03,320 Speaker 1: that way towards your show. But I'll just keep them 1526 01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:05,759 Speaker 1: step until last time you listen to it. I listened 1527 01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:09,360 Speaker 1: to the show, uh recently when you had your airport adventure, 1528 01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:13,200 Speaker 1: your misadventure that was embarrassing. All right, that's it. That's 1529 01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:16,040 Speaker 1: it for the Round the NFL podcast. This is like 1530 01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:20,720 Speaker 1: a TD meddling. Now on the board. Oh god, this 1531 01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:24,360 Speaker 1: is our show. Okay, stand hands a signing off for 1532 01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:29,679 Speaker 1: I know it's not your fault Bread, the Sizzler, Handsome 1533 01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:34,320 Speaker 1: Hank Shack, the Boss and the Irishman. Great start behind 1534 01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:38,679 Speaker 1: the glass, buddy, Now you did good buddy. Until Wednesday 1535 01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:02,000 Speaker 1: s