1 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King. 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 2: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your 3 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 2: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey 4 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 2: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and 5 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 2: Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the 6 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 2: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in 7 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 2: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or 8 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 2: scripted as well. Hey Ray drops on today's episode of 9 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 2: Reality with the King, I have a very special guest 10 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 2: because look what's not gonna happen when it comes to 11 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 2: Carlos King, a journalist, Hey Portia is for me to 12 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: recap an episode. 13 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: Where the elephant was not in the room where the. 14 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:04,039 Speaker 2: Elephant talked about and it was an episode of receipts. 15 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: When it comes to the second episode of season. 16 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: Nineteen of The Real house Washing Oris County, and I 17 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:15,199 Speaker 2: could not do this episode alone. So ladies, gentleman, gays 18 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 2: and bays, give a warm welcome for my friend, my love. 19 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: I love her so much, she's she's such a good gap. 20 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 2: I want her back on the show. But I got 21 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 2: her back. A Reality with the King give it up 22 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 2: for Alexis Ballino. 23 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 3: Hi, honey, that was so sweet. Ah, it's me huh. 24 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: I do, and I've miss every word. 25 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 3: I miss you too. I'm glad to be here today. 26 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: How are you? 27 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 2: I mean, listen, you're a busy woman, obviously, you're a mom, 28 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 2: you are a professional woman as well, and you are fiance. 29 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 2: So how are things going with the wedding planning to 30 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 2: your love my friend John. 31 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 3: It's going good. 32 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: It's good. 33 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 3: It's right around the corner. 34 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 4: And I keep saying that because I'm not letting anyone 35 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 4: know if it's two days or a month, or two 36 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 4: or three months or you know, I'm just giving the 37 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:11,519 Speaker 4: generalities of it's around the corner. 38 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 3: So yeah, it's really good. 39 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 4: And I'm a lot less stressed this time doing it 40 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 4: because i feel like, been there, done that, so you 41 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 4: know all the ropes, and you know. 42 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 3: We have a good wedding planning team with us. 43 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 2: So it's good, good, good, good good. Well, Look, we 44 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 2: have to get to this season of the Real Housewives 45 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 2: of Alexis Believing. I'm sorry, the Real Housewives of ours 46 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 2: County Alexis your name, she's coming up. So as we 47 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 2: recap episode two, I want to start first by asking 48 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 2: you this, uh huh, do you miss filming? 49 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 3: No and watching? 50 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 4: Honestly, I don't watching it right now. Okay, this is 51 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 4: what I wanted to ask you when I knew we 52 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 4: were going to do this podcast. Do you feel like 53 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 4: the show's just missing fun? Like I feel like it's 54 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 4: it's turning into so much of just all this draw 55 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 4: and having us like where's the fun? 56 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 3: So No, I don't really miss the filming right now. 57 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 3: I'm just being honest. 58 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, listen, I will say this, the first episode 59 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 2: I thought was okay. 60 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: Because of what you said. 61 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 2: I think for me, first episodes of any premiers are 62 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 2: always difficult because you have to like recap to the audience, 63 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 2: have the episode it is going to be this season. 64 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 2: You have to reset where everyone is in their lives 65 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 2: since we last saw them during the off season. So 66 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 2: the first episodes are always difficult. But look, I definitely 67 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 2: would love to see more fun. But there's a lot 68 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 2: of conversations happening. And Honey, Bunny, you and I may 69 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 2: disagree on this because I know she's your friend, but 70 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 2: you know I'm honest, and in this episode we have 71 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 2: to talk about Katie. 72 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 3: Okay, now, okay, where you going because. 73 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: I girl, we just have to get right into it. 74 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 2: So Alexis Kate to the hot seat this season and 75 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 2: it's only been two episodes and she is at the 76 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 2: epicenter of the drama and you, funny enough, are like 77 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 2: the co star of this invisible person who we can 78 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 2: talk about. But she's not going to defend herself. So 79 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 2: I want you to here to defend yourself. But to 80 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 2: read cap what's going on. Katie is being accused of 81 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 2: talking to bloggers and now we learn in this episode 82 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 2: that Katie allegedly recorded Shannon Badore having a meldown at 83 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 2: the Gallery shoot last season where you were featured. It 84 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 2: has been alleged that Shannon's behavior on set, Alexis was 85 00:04:52,680 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 2: because you were there and Katie recorded Shannon and she 86 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 2: sent it to you. 87 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 4: Well, here's where that's a little here, here's where it 88 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 4: gets muddled, and here's where you know, it's like telephone 89 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 4: around the room what the truth is and where there's 90 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 4: and then it's just here's he's saying, she's saying. 91 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 3: It goes all around in circles. 92 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 4: So first of all, I'm not the one that told 93 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 4: Tama about that Katie had told Tama, and so Tama 94 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 4: came to me when we were just shooting the Wind 95 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 4: one day and said, you know, did you actually hear 96 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 4: that that thing that that Katie recorded of Shannon? Did 97 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 4: you ever actually hear it? And I said yeah, And 98 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 4: I didn't even think anything about it. I didn't think 99 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 4: it was going to be on this season. I didn't 100 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 4: think anything was. 101 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 3: Going to go anywhere. And so Tama had already known 102 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 3: about it from Katie comes to me. 103 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,799 Speaker 4: I'm at first I feel bad for Katie because Katie 104 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 4: was not doing anything malicious at all when she did this. 105 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 4: What happened was she was on a phone call with 106 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 4: her husband at a business meeting. They were on a 107 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 4: three way phone call, business meeting. Okay, Katie has to 108 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 4: hang up real quick because Shannon comes in all believe 109 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 4: sticking crazy and did. 110 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 3: Fucking alexaid Melina and fell me, why is she here? 111 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 4: I heard the whole thing, so she's going whack doodle 112 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 4: job okay, and Katie. The reason Katie recorded it was 113 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 4: because she's like, how am I gonna tell me? How 114 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 4: am I gonna explain this? Like he's not gonna believe me, 115 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 4: So she just recorded it on an audio something. 116 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 3: It was not a video. By the way, another thing 117 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 3: that's not true. Did I hear it? 118 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 4: Yes? 119 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 3: Was Jen with me to hear it? 120 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 4: Yes, we were all at lunch. And so I don't 121 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 4: know why people act like they don't know. It's like, 122 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 4: just own up to the truth. And I think that's 123 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 4: part of the problem with Katie this season is she 124 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 4: hasn't owned up to the truth when the things happen, 125 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 4: but then she owns up later. 126 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 3: It's like, if we all are. 127 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 4: Growing and learning, right, Carlos, we're all gonna make mistakes. 128 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,679 Speaker 4: We're all not the perfect friend, We're not the perfect person. 129 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 3: Just own it and move on. Say you're sorry. If 130 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 3: you really mean it, I mean, you have to mean it. 131 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 3: But like I think that's where. 132 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 4: It gets kind of a little confusing, and like I 133 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 4: think that's where the girls are right now, is it's like, okay, wait, 134 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 4: but then she goes to cameras and fesses up to 135 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 4: it when she said she didn't do it, but then 136 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 4: she says she did and owns it, and then you know, 137 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 4: the whole video thing though, or the recording of Shannon 138 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 4: was not a malicious or or any ill intent on 139 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 4: Katie's part at all. So I want to clear that 140 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 4: up right now. And I don't think Shannon should be 141 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 4: mad because I'm sorry. You have to learn from your 142 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 4: behavior if you're going to be a psychotic person there 143 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 4: someone hears. 144 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 3: You on the phone or you know has it on phone. 145 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 4: It's like, okay, just take accountability for your own actions, 146 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 4: you know. But so I feel really bad for Katie 147 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 4: in this episode and the first one. 148 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 3: But what do you feel, Carlos. I want to hear 149 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 3: what you think. 150 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 2: I know. Listen, Alexis I disagree with you. I think 151 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 2: Katie did that maliciously. And hear me out, Sister, I 152 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 2: hear I think Katie is shady. 153 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 3: Okay, and that's fair you have that's edis a viewer 154 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 3: you have that you're entitled to have that opinion. 155 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, No, The reason why I love you is 156 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 2: because you and I are able to have of their 157 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 2: reconstructive conversation where we could agree sometimes, disagree sometimes but 158 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 2: always respectful. Hey, listen, the reason why I'm so grateful 159 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 2: and thankful that you decided to hop on today is 160 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 2: because you're actually friends with these women. And I will 161 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 2: always speak on behalf of two sides. The side of 162 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 2: the producer and the side of a viewer as a viewer. 163 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 2: As a viewer, Katie's credibility is shot. And thank you 164 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 2: for clearing up that it wasn't a video, that it 165 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 2: was audio only. But it's one of those things where 166 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 2: you and I agree on this. Katie is incapable. Well, 167 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 2: I'm saying, cable, you did say that, But I wish 168 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 2: Katie would own the truth in the beginning instead of 169 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 2: sitting on it and then revealing it later. 170 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: And that brings me to this Alexis. 171 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 2: Even when she was accused of speaking to said blogger 172 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 2: and she like, no, we dm each other. I never 173 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 2: spoke to her. And in the next episode, in this one, 174 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 2: she said, Okay, I did call her. And I'm like, Katie, 175 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 2: unless you work for nine to one one where you 176 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 2: do speak to random people every day and you don't remember. 177 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:21,599 Speaker 1: It, I find it hard to believe Katie that you 178 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: don't remember talking on the phone to a blogger. Well, 179 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: that's where I seem each other. 180 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 4: I think that's where the women are. You know, I'm 181 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 4: speaking from watching the episode. I want to be you know, 182 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 4: because I am. I am a little bit more in 183 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 4: the circle since I am. You know, do speak to 184 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 4: some of these women still, and I'm good friends with 185 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 4: some of them, and then we're just some of us 186 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 4: are just acquaintances or whatever. 187 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 3: But so I am a little bit in the middle 188 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 3: of some of it, but in a different way. 189 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 4: But I'm speaking as a viewer and so taking my 190 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 4: friend and my personal relationship off and talking as a 191 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 4: watching the show person. So I feel like I can 192 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 4: understand why the women are upset because of exactly what 193 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 4: you just said. 194 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 3: If you do something, own it. 195 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 4: That's what I started saying with you own it and apologize, 196 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 4: and you're trying to grow and become a better person. 197 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 4: Know that that is something that hurt their feelings and 198 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 4: the women are upset about. But you can't lie and 199 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 4: then come back and say, oh, but yes I did, 200 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 4: and do that multiple times without everyone starting to go, 201 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 4: like the red flags to come up for the other women. Right, 202 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 4: But speaking personally about her, when I say I know 203 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 4: she didn't do it maliciously, I'm letting you know. 204 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,599 Speaker 3: And you can think that she did. I'm letting you know. 205 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 4: We were very very tight at that time and we're 206 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 4: a little bit more distant now. But she did not 207 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 4: have any ill like she I see where on the 208 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 4: show she comes across like a certain way, but she 209 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 4: does not have a really a mean bone in her body. 210 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 4: I don't truly feel I think she's a kind person. 211 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 4: I think this show ate her alive. I think she 212 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 4: wasn't really ready for what she was getting herself into. 213 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 4: But I also think you need to own your mistakes, 214 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 4: like front up, Like if somebody catches you and you 215 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 4: know you did it, don't lie about it and then 216 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 4: come out and say it, oh, you know, a couple 217 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 4: different times, because your credibility is then everyone gets the Okay, 218 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 4: let me ask you this. If she'd done it once 219 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 4: and then said, Okay, I get it, I'm so sorry, 220 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 4: would you be more uh, let's just say easy on her, Like, 221 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 4: would your feelings be a little bit less. 222 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 3: Harsh about her? 223 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: Yes? 224 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 2: And I'm going to tell you why. And I'm going 225 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,719 Speaker 2: to give you the credit for this too, Alexis you 226 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 2: hit the nail on the head. This show has eaten 227 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 2: Katie alive because she is a deer caught in the 228 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 2: hit lights of what the F did I sign up for? 229 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 3: Right? 230 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 2: I don't understand the social experiments of this ensemble show. 231 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 2: I think I think she walked into a world where 232 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:01,599 Speaker 2: she did not know how to navigate it. 233 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: And I agree with you. 234 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 2: I don't think Listen, I don't think Katie, by any 235 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:13,719 Speaker 2: stretch of the imagination, is mean. I do believe that 236 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 2: she is incapable of understanding that this show is a 237 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 2: part of your life. And yes, yes, yes, there is 238 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 2: this sort of world where this is my TV life 239 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 2: and this is my real life off camera, and I 240 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:33,719 Speaker 2: and I and I and I respect that too. What 241 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 2: I don't respect is any actions you do off camera, 242 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 2: you have to own it on camera. And I think 243 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 2: that's the sort of like place where you and I 244 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 2: both agree that Katie is feeling at like you live 245 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 2: this life off camera and when you're when you're on 246 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 2: the show, you try to you try to focus more 247 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 2: on how do I address this on the show? Which 248 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 2: my answer to reality stars, which is why I loved 249 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 2: you from the beginning. 250 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: You have to own your ship. 251 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, anyone, here's the naivity. 252 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 4: If anyone thinks they're gonna go on a reality show 253 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 4: and they're gonna be able to you know, uh, shove 254 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 4: things under the rug or just cover make a cover up, 255 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 4: or not tell the truth. 256 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 3: The truth's gonna come out. 257 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 4: There's no way you're gonna go through an entire season 258 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 4: and not have the reality and the truth come to fruish, right. 259 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 3: I think I think that might be exactly you. 260 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,719 Speaker 4: You made something kind of perk up in me where 261 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 4: you just said, you made the realization that she she's 262 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 4: trying to make up two separate worlds, like my private 263 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 4: life is my private life and my TV life is 264 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 4: my TV life, And that is a mistake to be 265 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 4: made by anyone that's on a reality TV show, because 266 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, it's all one. It all becomes one, and 267 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:53,599 Speaker 4: you you can't do cover ups. You can't lie, you know. 268 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 4: So I feel truthfully that Katie thought and was very 269 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 4: naive when she thought, you know, that the show was 270 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 4: gonna be one way, and then when you watch it 271 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 4: play back, you're like, oh my gosh, this is this 272 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,599 Speaker 4: is what's happening, this is what you know. I just 273 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 4: I do wish she would have just owned up to everything. 274 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 4: And who knows, we got a whole season left, so 275 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 4: we don't know what well this is going. But I 276 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 4: feel bad for her because I do know she's a 277 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 4: lovely person. I do know that she has a heart 278 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 4: of goal that she cares about people. So I feel 279 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 4: bad that it's going this way. But from what I'm watching, 280 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 4: it doesn't seem like the women are going to lighten up. 281 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: That's the thing. 282 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 3: It's like, it looks it looks bad for her, like 283 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 3: I don't. 284 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 2: Know, yeah, yeah, yeah, And I think I think it's 285 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 2: because if she would have owned the beginning and just 286 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 2: kept because the think is this, you own it the beginning. 287 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 2: And unfortunately, this is what I would have done if 288 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 2: I was on the show. Katie, listen up. As the 289 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 2: king of reality TV is giving you advice? Shell you 290 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 2: come back next season. 291 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: We don't know yet. 292 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 2: I wi say, hey, guys, State of the Union. This 293 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 2: is all the ship I did off season, and I 294 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 2: was I liked. 295 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 4: I liked where she said, though Carlo she admitted it. 296 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 4: I like where she said. I I did make some mistakes. 297 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 4: I didn't understand. 298 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 3: That's that's real. That's being vulnerable, you know, And that's 299 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 3: why Emily gave her some grace. 300 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: You have to own it, right, you have to own it. Now. 301 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 3: This is the other problem. Let me give you the 302 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 3: other problem with her though. One other thing. 303 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 4: She freezes up and you can't freeze up as a housewife. 304 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 4: If you're going to be on reality TV, you can't freeze. 305 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 4: And she admitted it in her interview, her confessional on 306 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 4: this last episode, she admitted she's PTSD from her past 307 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 4: life or you know, the things that she's gone through, 308 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 4: And her past is what I meant, not past life, 309 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 4: but things she has gone through in her past. So 310 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 4: the problem is if you freeze every single situation, you 311 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 4: can't get your thoughts out, you can't get across you, 312 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 4: you can't get anything accomplished. And so she has to 313 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 4: find a way for the rest of the sea and 314 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 4: hopefully to stop freezing and speak what you mean and 315 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 4: mean what you say, you know, like get it out, 316 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 4: get the truth out. And but okay, so go ahead, 317 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 4: and you were going to make another point, but I 318 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 4: just wanted to say that. I think that's another part 319 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 4: of her problem, is that she does freeze, and and 320 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 4: you know, it makes me I feel bat she's like 321 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 4: a deer in headlights, you know. 322 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: So she really is, it really is. 323 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 3: And I think but she's funny Carlos in person, in 324 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 3: person and in life, she's freaking funny. 325 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 4: Like when we go to start, oh, she says the 326 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 4: funniest stuff, So her confessionals where she's like being witty 327 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 4: and funny, it's true. 328 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: Well, I have to see more of that, Alexis girl. 329 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: I believe you. But let me ask you this. 330 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 2: Without giving too much away, because it's a lot of 331 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 2: rumors will lie and I'm not here to address any 332 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 2: of those things because I'm only gonna focus on what's 333 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 2: airing on the show. 334 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: But I would like to ask you this, How is 335 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: Katie doing today? 336 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 4: I mean we we've kind of lost touch, like I 337 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 4: said a little bit ago, like me being off this 338 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 4: season and you know, the whole Shannon issue with the 339 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 4: what she recorded, it's kind of made Katie and I 340 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 4: have definitely stepped back from being close however, So I 341 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 4: don't know, but I do know from other housewives that 342 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 4: I do talk to that you know, it was it's 343 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:23,239 Speaker 4: a rough season for her. 344 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 3: So I don't know how she's doing right now. Personally, 345 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 3: I hope she's okay. I mean it's tough. 346 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: It's tough. 347 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, how is your wedding planning doing now that Shanna 348 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 2: has helped you funded with the sixty thousand dollars seven 349 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 2: and she's dead. 350 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 1: Data say she gave you money, honey, and it's helping 351 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: your wedding crowd. 352 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 4: Well, considering she owed us seventy five thousand and we 353 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 4: had to pay attorneys twenty five or thirty, we only got, 354 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 4: you know, we gave her a discount at sixty, so 355 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 4: we made about thirty thousand out of. 356 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 3: It, you know, but or thirty thousand of it back. 357 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 3: But yeah, so that bought I mean, that's helping. 358 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 4: What the invitation costs to thank you for that, I guess, 359 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 4: but I mean, or it might have been our family 360 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 4: vacation we took that she got, you know. 361 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 3: But here's the funny part why this is all so 362 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 3: commical to me. 363 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 4: So the person who couldn't afford her facelift or her 364 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 4: bills and needed money from my ex husband, my future 365 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, my her ex boyfriend, my future husband is 366 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 4: now saying like acting like she's some god because she 367 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 4: paid us back the money she freaking owed it, Like, 368 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 4: how is that lost on anyone? And then there and 369 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 4: then and then it comes around that John paid John 370 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 4: never paid for anything, She hadn't paid for everything. How 371 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 4: is the person paid for everything needs seventy five thousand 372 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 4: dollars for my future husband how it's just it's I 373 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 4: look at people and I'm like, you're freaking weird, Like 374 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 4: you can't see the reality of this. Like he had 375 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 4: the money sitting there, he gave her the money, she 376 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 4: promised to pay it back. We have the emails to 377 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 4: prove it. So she had to pay him back. And 378 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 4: don't think for one second she wouldn't have written that 379 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 4: check if she didn't know she's gonna lose in court. 380 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 4: So I mean, it's just just all, okay, so move on. 381 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 4: This is such old news. 382 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,360 Speaker 2: I know. I wanted you to clear the air speaking 383 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 2: of old news that her It's a new news. Gretchen 384 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 2: Rossi is back, Alexis, and let me tell you something. 385 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 3: I like you. 386 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: We're friends with Tamra. 387 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 2: However, just like Tamra and you, we also appreciate good television. 388 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 2: Gretchen Rossi coming back made me smile from it the air. 389 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:32,959 Speaker 1: She's gorgeous. 390 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 2: There's there's not one person who can get underneath Tamra's 391 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 2: skin the way Gretchen does. 392 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: So it was nice to see Gretchen back. I was 393 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: happy to. 394 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 2: See that she does have a nose. Tamra, I know 395 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 2: you think she air brushes her phones. A lot by 396 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 2: I saw, I saw Nostro okay, so that that may be. 397 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 2: That made me happy to see that, so we. 398 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 4: Tamra's line was funny though, when she said, uh, hold 399 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 4: on to your face tunes girls or something like that. 400 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 1: That's a funny lot. 401 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 2: Right, because Tama's infamous lie with Gretchen came on the 402 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 2: show season I think four or three hold on to 403 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 2: your Daddy's girls, here comes Gratch right. 404 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 4: No, exactly, so now it's hold on to your face 405 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 4: tuned girls, because a decade later here or fifteen years later, 406 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 4: here we are. 407 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 2: Yes. 408 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: I thought that was so iconic for that this is 409 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: reality with the King and I'm Carlos King. Let's get 410 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: back into the show. 411 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 2: This was so interesting with Swamp, like, ah, I want 412 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 2: a Lexus on the show this season, but you're busy 413 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 2: and you're you're in love, so I'm happy for you anyway. 414 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 2: But you're also friends with Gretchen, and correct, Carlos, what 415 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 2: rock have you been under? No? No, I wanted to 416 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 2: clear the air because there was this thing that I saw, 417 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 2: and again I like to clear the air that you 418 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 2: Katie are friendly and that Gretchen is a part of 419 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 2: that too, and that you're friendly with jin And there 420 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:12,719 Speaker 2: were some rumor circulating last season that Gretcha was going 421 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 2: to come back and it's going to come back through 422 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 2: you guys. Did you hear that rumor too? 423 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: Well? 424 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 4: I did, but it wasn't There's nothing true about that 425 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 4: rumor because Gretchen and I are not Gretchen and I 426 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 4: are not friendly. I mean we might give one little 427 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 4: like high or something, I mean at the most, but no, 428 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 4: because she was one of my very dear friends when 429 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 4: I first got on the show, sure, and I became 430 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 4: fast BFFs. I mean, her and Slade would come over 431 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 4: to Jim in my house while the kids are in bed, 432 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 4: and we'd stay up until two or three, you know, 433 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 4: just hanging out. So we were very tight, and you know, 434 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 4: then the show unfortunately got in between us. But then 435 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 4: I also saw true colors. So and I know, like 436 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 4: the viewers, I'm really intrigued by this whole thing with 437 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 4: Tamara and Gretchen, by the way, because I'm like thinking, 438 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 4: how in the world are they were just gonna both 439 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 4: just like let it go. 440 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 3: Tamra, in my opinion, is and was ready to just 441 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 3: let it go. 442 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 4: She's just like, can we just move on, like, let's 443 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 4: just fifteen years ago when we talk about that. But 444 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 4: there just still is this animosity between both of them. 445 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 4: So it's gonna be a good season. I thought last 446 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 4: episode was good to watch. I just wish there was 447 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 4: more fun. I wish it wasn't always so heavy and 448 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 4: so much arguing. Like I said in the beginning of this, 449 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 4: but I thought it was a good episode. What did 450 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 4: you What did you think? 451 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 2: First? Like for the whole episode, I enjoyed the first episode. 452 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 2: I agree with you, I want them more fun. I 453 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 2: really enjoyed episode two. Episode two, I was glued to 454 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 2: the screen because, yeah, listen, Tamra and Gretchen's beef is 455 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 2: sort of like the old school WWE between like Hawk 456 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 2: Hogan and one of his opponents. It was just something 457 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 2: that you were definitely here for and to see them 458 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 2: together make me so intrigued because one of the things 459 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 2: that I want to talk about, it's the fact that 460 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 2: before we get to the Gretchen versus Tamra that sort 461 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 2: of ended the episode when Tamara was talking to Heather 462 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 2: Debro and she you know, Heather mentioned Gretchen and coming 463 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 2: to you know, the launch, Tama made some accusations that 464 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 2: Jennifer wants to be her. Tamra alests that Jennifer moved 465 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 2: a couple of houses down from her a few years ago, 466 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 2: that she started to go at the gym. She was 467 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 2: going to using her pretty much hairstylist. She had plastic 468 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 2: surgery on her face so looked like Tamra. She lost 469 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 2: all this weight. We did see them before and aft 470 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 2: the picture. I think Jennifer's gorgeous. Do you think that 471 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 2: Jennifer wanted or wants to be Tamara? 472 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 4: You know, I personally don't because I'm Jen, you know, 473 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 4: and we I don't, but I can. They've got such 474 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 4: a beef now that I Jen and Tamra have such 475 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 4: a beef now that I just I don't know that 476 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 4: Tamor will ever give up on that, and she is 477 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 4: going to hold to the fact that Jen does want 478 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 4: to be her. But I personally, as an you know, 479 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 4: outsider looking in I don't think so. I think I 480 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 4: think if anyone wants to change their their looks and 481 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 4: lose some weight and get some longer hair and put 482 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,199 Speaker 4: on some makeup and get your lips done like I mean, 483 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 4: we're in California. Carlos, Hello, that's ninety percent of the 484 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 4: people you U see walking down the street, because that's just. 485 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 3: What Californians do, or blonde, big booms, big lips, and 486 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 3: you know, so I don't know. That's for me, that's 487 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 3: my That's where I stand on it. What do you 488 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 3: think now? 489 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: Lit that Okay, I. 490 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 2: Can see that if what Tamra is alleging is fatuo 491 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 2: in the chronological order, sure there's some sort of like 492 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 2: question marks. They're right, it would appear if that's Again, 493 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 2: I haven't seen Jan's past addresses. I haven't seen any 494 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 2: of these things. But what Tamara's saying is factual in 495 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 2: the sense of the chronological order, then sure there could. 496 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: Be some validity to it. 497 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 2: But what is so interesting is when it comes to 498 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 2: those two, I wanted them to remain friends, and I 499 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 2: think Jenn is the future of OC and I told 500 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 2: Tamar that myself, and Tamer's like, that's your opinion, as 501 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 2: Tama would say, But I listen because ah, Jen to 502 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 2: me is such a fun girl that on the show. 503 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 2: And I know you said Katie's a fun girl, but 504 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 2: I want Jen to have fun and I just don't 505 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 2: think Katie's the right one. I think Jen and tamar 506 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 2: Ca have fun together, but I get to see Jen 507 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 2: and Gretchen together, which to me is going to be 508 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 2: way more fascinating to watch because when they were together. 509 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: With each other's hausbands, that was the fun. I think 510 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: you and I are talking about that we needed. Yeah, yeah, 511 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 1: go ahead, yeah yeah. 512 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 4: Just the lightheartedness, just the every day to day living, 513 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 4: not just you know, okay, let's go to this dinner 514 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 4: and have a fight, you know what I mean. Like 515 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 4: it's I don't know, that's that's just my perspective, and 516 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 4: I know people tune in for the drama. I just 517 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 4: feel like even when I was on the show a 518 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 4: decade ago, you know, back in seasons. 519 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 3: Five through eight, there was more fun. 520 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 4: I feel like the show showed more fun, and you know, 521 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 4: it has it has evolved, which we all all TV 522 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 4: shows evolved. 523 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 3: But I don't know, that's just my two cents on it. 524 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 525 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 3: I like the like the laughing. 526 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 4: I like the girls looking like dorks and doing dorky 527 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 4: things and showing true life. 528 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: You know, so you didn't laugh when Emily had the 529 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: egg in her purse. 530 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 3: Okay, that was funny. 531 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 4: I did laugh, But also, who's gonna put a hard 532 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 4: boiled egg, whether it's raw or heart boiled. 533 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 3: Who's gonna put it? You can't eat enough at lunch 534 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 3: that you need a little snack for your uber rite home. 535 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 1: I know, I was just like Emily. 536 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 2: I love Emily, but I was like, please don't make 537 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 2: this another situation where you put a freaking subway. Yeah, 538 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 2: I'm like Emily enough with the food in the purse, 539 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 2: please save me a spare this season. But getting back 540 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 2: to the scene of the girls having lunch, you are right, Alexis. 541 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 2: I did feel like when Gretchen and Tamar saw each other, 542 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 2: I did feel like Tamar was trying to diffuse it 543 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 2: but also understanding the assignment of we have to address it. 544 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 1: Ye. 545 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 2: Tamara alleged that Gretchen contacted her daughter when she was 546 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 2: going through the legalities of her ex husband and how 547 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 2: her daughter at the time was was, you know, publicly 548 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 2: stating how Tamara just wasn't the mother she thought she 549 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 2: would be, which is powerful for any mother to hear. Now, 550 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 2: Gretchen did leave a comment which my opinion, I love Gretchen. 551 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 2: I think it's off limits as it pertains that anyone's 552 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 2: child lashing out on social media. 553 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 4: I one hundred percent agree with you, And I don't 554 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 4: think the part that I how I feel is it 555 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 4: doesn't matter if you reached out to her on Instagram 556 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 4: or Facebook or a DM or a phone call or 557 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 4: a text. Doesn't matter at all. It's an announcement. Especially 558 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 4: now since Gretchen has a daughter. You would think Gretchen 559 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 4: would have gone, you know what, that was wrong with me. 560 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 4: I think that's where Gretchen could have she missed the 561 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 4: beat there. She could have looked at Tamar and said, 562 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 4: you know what, I have a kid. 563 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 3: Now, I get it. 564 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: That was wrong. 565 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 4: No matter how I reached out to your child, I 566 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 4: should have that should have been off limits. But Gretchen didn't. 567 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 4: She just kept, you know, going to the point of, oh, well, 568 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 4: you know, it wasn't a phone call and it's not 569 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 4: the same. By the way, how scary was that when 570 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 4: she goes it's not the same, Like I was like, 571 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 4: ooh those eyes right there. So but anyway, I think that, 572 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 4: you know, it doesn't matter how you talk how you 573 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 4: talked to the child. The child a child, and it's 574 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 4: always going to be chamorous child. Even if the child's 575 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 4: twenty six, it's still going to be Chamer's child. So yeah, 576 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 4: it's off limits hundred percent. 577 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 3: I agree with you. 578 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's off limits. And listen, they're going 579 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 2: to get some more issues later this season that we know. 580 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 2: This was just a tip of the iceberg. But I 581 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 2: would like to get into the Shannon Badore of it all, because, 582 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 2: as we saw this episode, Shannon has taken this personal 583 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 2: liking to Katie because she keeps saying Alexis that it's 584 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 2: hard for her to watch one person get ganged up on, 585 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 2: which Emily was like, you're gonna stop saying that we're 586 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 2: not bullying her. Shannon said, I know what that feels like. 587 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 2: It happened to me before, and she was really on 588 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 2: Katie's side before we get to the bomb drop that 589 00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 2: happened at the lunch table. Did you feel that Shannon 590 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 2: was being genuine taking this personal liking to Katie or 591 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 2: was she using Katie to try to prove a point 592 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 2: to the ladies that gang it up on one person 593 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 2: it's off limits. 594 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 3: I think the latter. I think exactly what you just said, 595 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 3: I don't think. 596 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 4: I don't think it was genuine, But at the same time, 597 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 4: I do agree with her. I don't think that anybody 598 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 4: should sit at a table and harp on one person 599 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 4: on if you want to have a one on one 600 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 4: conversation with that person and tell them what they're doing 601 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 4: wrong or how they've hurt you. That's different than six 602 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 4: women and five of them all, you know. 603 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 3: Being on Katie. 604 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 4: That's a very I've been in that place myself on Housewives, 605 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 4: and I don't like to partake in it, and I 606 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 4: don't like when it happens to anybody. I don't care 607 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 4: if they're right or wrong. I still feel like I 608 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 4: agree with Shannon on the fact that it was it's 609 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 4: not okay, Like not one person sitting at that lunch 610 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 4: would want to be in the hot seat and have 611 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 4: all six women on them at that moment about something 612 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 4: they've done wrong, no matter how. 613 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: Wrong it is. 614 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 4: It's like, just okay, let's take we're older women now, 615 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 4: let's be adults and pull them aside or make a 616 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 4: phone call to them. I don't agree with the ganging 617 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 4: up on thing, but I don't think Shannon get chanced 618 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 4: your question. I don't think Shannon was genuine about it. 619 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 4: I think it was more of let's not do ganging 620 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 4: up on anyone could have been anybody that she was 621 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 4: trying to say that about well, and now we know 622 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 4: they're not very close friends by the end of this episode. 623 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, because look, Emma le revealed to Shannon that look, 624 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 2: while you're defending Katie, she recorded you and sent it 625 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 2: to Alexis. Shannon freaks out, saying in her confessionals that 626 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 2: you know these people were suing me and that she's 627 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 2: alleging that you guys could have used that in your. 628 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: Case against the judgment to get the money back. 629 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 3: Then again, it's a stupid comment. Yea makes no sense. 630 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 4: It It makes no legal There's no legal thing there. 631 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 4: It's like the litigation that, by the way, was John 632 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 4: and Shannon, not we. John and I did not sue Shannon. 633 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,239 Speaker 4: John sued Shannon back for the money she owed him, 634 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 4: So let's take the we out of that. Even though 635 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 4: he's my has my fiance. However, there would be no 636 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 4: recourse of action for that that It was not a video, 637 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 4: which keeps getting thrown out there. It was a voice 638 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 4: memo recording. There's no way that would have helped us 639 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 4: in a court case at all. 640 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 3: She's she's a lunatic. Okay, that doesn't get us our 641 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 3: money back. 642 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 4: Doesn't show any proof of the we needed the emails 643 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 4: and the proof that we had a video of that 644 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 4: or a voice memo. 645 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 3: That's not going to help our case. 646 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: Shannon has a tendency to leave the table and listen. 647 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 2: I like Shannon, but I'm very honest, I'm sick and 648 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 2: tire of her leaving every scene. 649 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 4: It's not well, You're probably not alone in that because 650 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 4: it happens every single season, and the girls are sick 651 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 4: of it. The girls, all the cast is sick of it. 652 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 4: They just like, roll her eyes now and they're like, 653 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 4: you know, they say it behind and they're like, oh, 654 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 4: here she goes. She's gonna leave again, So look at you. 655 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: Let me know Alexis. Alexis. 656 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 2: Nothing bothers me on OC because it's such a great 657 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 2: show except Shannon's ability to not sit in her chair 658 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 2: and deal with what's happening because she's getting a paycheck. 659 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 2: I'm sick and tired of Shanna ba door being shown 660 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 2: the door and not addressing what is happening in front 661 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:37,719 Speaker 2: of her. 662 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: You've been there, does Shannon, So we let me ask 663 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: you this. 664 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 2: You worked on the show. When she leaves, is she 665 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 2: like yelling at producers what does she is she like? 666 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 2: Getting her like what is happening? Why can't she just 667 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 2: sit there and take it? 668 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 3: You gotta have her on the podcast to find that out. 669 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 4: I don't know, because I mean, when you sign your contract, 670 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 4: you know that's what you're getting yourself into. 671 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 3: I mean, that's what the show's about. It is conflict 672 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 3: and resolution. 673 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 4: So there's going to be a conflict and be able 674 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 4: to get up every time and say I'm done, I'm leaving. 675 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,359 Speaker 3: It's I mean, it means you can't really hold your 676 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 3: own You can't. You can't. 677 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 4: You can't sit there and take it, and you also 678 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 4: can't dish it back out, which is what you're signing 679 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 4: up for. 680 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:17,800 Speaker 3: That is the job, you know. 681 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 1: So I don't know. 682 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 3: You'll have to ask her why and what she's doing thinking. 683 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 2: Oh, Shannon, Shannon, come on, because listen. I love when 684 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,320 Speaker 2: I see you as the mom. I think Shanna's the 685 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 2: great mom her daughters. Whenever she's with her daughters, you 686 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 2: can see the love that they have with the mother, 687 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 2: and that obviously means Shanna is doing something right. So 688 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 2: I applaud her as a mother, applaud her relationship with 689 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 2: her daughters. The thing is I don't applaud her for 690 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 2: leaving a scene because the thing was this nobody. 691 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 1: The difference is this. I I was on Shannon's side 692 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:51,320 Speaker 1: last season. 693 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 2: I told my friend Camera off the record and on 694 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 2: the record, like, girl ain't liking this, but I at 695 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 2: least understood that if you're calling somebody a drunk, it's 696 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 2: not the nicest things to say. 697 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: And I can understand leaving the situation. 698 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 2: I'm not on Shannon's side when it's sort of like, well, 699 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,800 Speaker 2: Katie did this, and she's like, I'm leaving. No one's 700 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 2: attacking you, Shannon. No one's calling you a drunk. No 701 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 2: one's even attacking you. It's meek and mild Katie, who said, look, 702 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:27,800 Speaker 2: this is what happened. 703 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: Deal with it. 704 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,800 Speaker 2: And if that's your friend who you love to have 705 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 2: one on once with on a park bench overlooking the 706 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 2: o c Ocean, honey, then I'm gonna need you to 707 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 2: be able to sit there and deal with it. Like 708 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 2: I didn't understand the walk off in this episode, I 709 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 2: truly did not. 710 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 3: I don't. 711 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 4: I don't know that I understand any of them, to 712 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 4: be honest, because it does happen so frequently that it's 713 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 4: like it's you just know that it's gonna the scene's 714 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,959 Speaker 4: gonna end sooner than thought because she's gonna walk away. 715 00:35:56,080 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 4: So the one thing she does get together girls, you 716 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 4: know the job's done a little faster. 717 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: Because they're like, if Shat is leaving, then we could 718 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 1: go home there because those that makes sense, that makes sense. 719 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:13,800 Speaker 1: Before I let you go, I do want to I 720 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 1: do want to ask you this you your. 721 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 2: Name is being mentioned, it has been mentioned in the 722 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:23,879 Speaker 2: first two episodes. 723 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 1: We did see the coming attractions, like the next week. 724 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 3: My name's in that one too. 725 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 4: The least paid housewife on the book, because okay, just 726 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 4: like John's John's you know appendage last year he had 727 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 4: they had, he had his own, he had his own 728 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 4: contract too. 729 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 5: Unfortunately, so is it because look, one thing I know 730 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 5: about you, you are a strong woman who has the 731 00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 5: capabilities of defending yourself, your. 732 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 1: Beliefs and what you stand for. 733 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:07,439 Speaker 2: Have it been challenging or not to watch the show 734 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 2: hearing your name constantly come up and you're not there 735 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 2: to defend yourself. 736 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, that's would stink for anyone. 737 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 4: And and like I said, I set the record straight 738 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 4: on No, it wasn't a video No, that's not what happened. 739 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 1: This is how it is. 740 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 3: It's like it does. It does stink to not be 741 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 3: able to have a voice when. 742 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 4: Your name is bringing mentioned every single episode so far, 743 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 4: you know, and obviously next week it's going to be 744 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:30,439 Speaker 4: mentioned again. 745 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 3: And I have a feeling it's it's not gonna dwindle 746 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 3: down that much. 747 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 1: So yeah, but what do I do? 748 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 4: You know, there's not much. There's not much I can do. 749 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 4: I just stay true to myself, and I am a 750 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 4: very convicted person. I will I will defend what I 751 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 4: believe is right, and I will stick up for myself. 752 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,359 Speaker 4: You know, I guess to a fault like I did 753 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 4: last year, but I'm not gonna I'm not gonna change 754 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 4: who I am. 755 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 1: No, Now, I don't want you to listen. I adore you. 756 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 1: I think you're so fun. You will always, always, always, always. 757 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 2: Receive my props for your contribution in the awesomeness that 758 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,800 Speaker 2: was last season's Oh see, I mean it was. 759 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 1: It was a ten out of a ten. 760 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 2: And I said this on my platform numerous times, and 761 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,919 Speaker 2: I would say this behind your back to it would 762 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 2: have been a very different season about you because you 763 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 2: were able to ignite a much needed fire that that 764 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 2: show needed. And I appreciated the real, organic friendship that 765 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:40,719 Speaker 2: you had with Heather and Camera on the show. And 766 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,920 Speaker 2: I'm not happy you're not there, but I am happy 767 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,399 Speaker 2: that you are living your best life. 768 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 1: You are getting married. 769 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,360 Speaker 2: You are showing the world, not that you needed to, 770 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,919 Speaker 2: but you're showing the world that what you and John 771 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 2: had was real and it was not to get under 772 00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 2: anyone's again, that this is a real to me, like 773 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:04,320 Speaker 2: it was real love and and the magical wedding that 774 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 2: you two will have is really going to illustrate that 775 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 2: you have found love. 776 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 1: And I could not be more happier for you and John. 777 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,800 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. We are going to miss you. 778 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 4: I know we don't want to speak too much about that, 779 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 4: but we are going to miss you that We know 780 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 4: you can't make it, but. 781 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 3: You were invited, so there you go. 782 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 1: I want to invite and listen and listen, listen. We 783 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,360 Speaker 1: will have We will have other moments to celebrate. So 784 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,919 Speaker 1: thank you Alestener for hobbling on reality with the King. 785 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,719 Speaker 2: Look, I know you're busy planning the wedding, but I 786 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 2: will speak to your team because I would love to 787 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 2: have you back. Because you're You're such a fun girl, 788 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 2: and I would love to continue doing this with you 789 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 2: whenever I can. 790 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 3: That will be fabulous. 791 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:52,319 Speaker 1: I will look forward to that. Okay, all right, you too, 792 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:53,320 Speaker 1: thank you. Elections. 793 00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 2: Reality with the King is executive for produced by me 794 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 2: Carlos King, produced by Lizzie Nimetz, and a partnership. 795 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,800 Speaker 1: With the Lack Effect Network. 796 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,839 Speaker 2: You can also find us on my YouTube channel at 797 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 2: the Carlos King Underscore