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Speaker 2: What's up, guys, Welcome into a brand new episode of

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Speaker 2: Chargers Weekly. We are two weeks away from the twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five NFL Draft, as always, joined by the Voice

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Speaker 2: of the Chargers, Matt Muney, Smith and Buddy.

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Speaker 3: A lot of my drafts.

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Speaker 2: I've been digging into that Beast by Dane Brugler that

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Speaker 2: I think was released either today or yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, been diving into that.

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Speaker 2: Just that thing is just an awesome tool for what

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Speaker 2: we do on a week to week basis here and

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Speaker 2: I just can't believe it's here.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 4: Two more weeks, Yeah, two weeks from today. Dane always

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Speaker 4: nice enough to join us when we're at the combine,

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Speaker 4: a great resource and free plug for him because it's

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Speaker 4: worth it and we don't get it for free. I

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Speaker 4: subscribe to The Athletic. Love what Popper does over there

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Speaker 4: and what Dane does, and if you're a football junkie,

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Speaker 4: is nothing better than the Beast. The PFF stuff is

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Speaker 4: awesome and it's a great tool. And the NFL dot

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Speaker 4: Com draft profiles that our friend Lanzerline puts together are great.

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Speaker 4: To get a thumbnail, man, I don't know how long

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Speaker 4: it takes or how many hours, And I mean it's

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Speaker 4: got to be six months. I would guess you're talking

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Speaker 4: about trends and production and production scores and athletics score

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Speaker 4: like it has ever. I've got Team Mac up right

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Speaker 4: now because I I've seen a couple mocks where he's

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Speaker 4: been there at twenty two for the Chargers, and I

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Speaker 4: just I can't believe it.

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Speaker 1: I just don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't get what's going on there to just dig

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Speaker 4: into that thing for one second. And yes, it's I

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Speaker 4: think it's a no brainer if he's there to get

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Speaker 4: that explosive player with something this offense needs. But I

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Speaker 4: just can't envision it. And like when you go through

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Speaker 4: all the stuff that he has in the Beast, it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: the last two seasons, he's got more receiving yards, more

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Speaker 4: first downs, more twenty plus yard catches than any other

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Speaker 4: player in college football. And we know what why receivers

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Speaker 4: are getting paid now at the top of the market

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Speaker 4: forty million bucks. Like, how is that guy gonna be

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Speaker 4: there at twenty two?

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Speaker 1: I just don't.

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Speaker 4: I can't see that. But the Beast awesome and the

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Speaker 4: t MAC profile in there leads me to think that

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Speaker 4: he's really in play at like number four for New

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Speaker 4: England if Travis Hunter and Abdul Carter are both going

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Speaker 2: I think this is just such a unique draft because

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Speaker 2: you look at the quarterbacks and I wrote down some

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Speaker 2: things that like, Okay, how do the Chargers like funnel

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Speaker 2: into this? And the first thing is the quarterbacks, Like,

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Speaker 2: so Dane has cam Ward is his twelfth overall player,

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Speaker 2: He's got shador as his thirty fourth overall, and Jackson

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Speaker 2: Dart at his forty ninth overall.

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Speaker 3: Buddy, there's a very strong possibility all.

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Speaker 2: Three of those guys are going to go before the

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Speaker 2: Chargers select at twenty two overall, which is a great

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Speaker 2: thing for LA because it just kind of pushes up

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Speaker 3: And then you look at the tackles. I think he

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Speaker 2: If four tackles go and three quarterbacks go and the

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Speaker 2: linebacker goes that he has number fourteen overall, then we're

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Speaker 2: talking about the deepest defensive line draft in maybe ever.

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Speaker 2: The running back class which is deep, and I don't

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Speaker 2: especially when you look at Camp Scataboo is his twelfth

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Speaker 2: just I go back to what Jayden Daniels and bow

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Speaker 2: Nix and Michael Pennix and Caleb Williams and Drake may

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Speaker 2: look like last year.

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Speaker 3: This isn't that yet. There's enough desperate teams that three

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the key I think is and they're talking about

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Speaker 4: maybe Schador being there for the Pittsburgh Steelers at twenty

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Speaker 4: third quarterback. And there's some heat on Dart. Now it's

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Speaker 4: and it always happens, right, and sometimes you don't know

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Speaker 4: what that heat is. Will Levis, you know, could be

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Speaker 4: the number one player pick. Now he's there in the

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Speaker 4: second round. Malik Willis could be gone in the first

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Speaker 4: seven picks. He's there in the third round. And then

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Speaker 4: there's the flip side of that, which is O bo

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Speaker 4: Nix is in a first round quarterback and he's the

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Speaker 4: don't have one, I don't care. I'm willing to it.

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Speaker 4: If I think it's close, I'm gonna take the swing

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Speaker 4: because it's worth it. And if it doesn't work, whatever,

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Speaker 4: draft another one next year. But you've got to find

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Speaker 4: interest in Jackson Dart that someone might want to trade

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Speaker 4: move back. And even as crazy as it sounds, depending

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Speaker 4: on who you listen to, there's.

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Speaker 1: Like enough heat on the whole boom er bust.

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Speaker 4: Just take the home run swing on Jalen Milroe, you know,

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Speaker 4: and just bet on the traits. Yes, the inaccuracy is there,

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Speaker 4: Jackson dart son of a coach, you know, let's get

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Speaker 4: There's like a high floor, you know what. I think

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Speaker 4: it's more sugar Sanders high floor throws with accuracy, nice

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Speaker 4: not what I'm looking for. I'm looking for top five.

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Speaker 4: And I think that's where that whole mill Roe conversation

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Speaker 2: And he was invited to Green Bay, and I think

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Speaker 2: he's going to Green Bay, which, Okay, our teams telling

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Speaker 2: Howard's another one. I really think that it's in the

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Speaker 2: eye of the beholder when it comes to these quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: So who knows what to expect? And you know, it's

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Speaker 2: it's just you count your blessings that you have a

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Speaker 2: the same breath, like maybe Miami or maybe there's a

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Speaker 2: not talking about either. So I think that that's a

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Speaker 2: distinct possibility. I think that it's the appropriate time to

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Speaker 2: maybe put to bed Tyler Warren and Colson Loveland at

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Speaker 2: twenty two money. You know, DJ has those guys's top

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Speaker 2: ten prospects. Dane has Colston as eleven, he's Tyler Warren

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Speaker 2: don't think this is a draft you move up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And there's some things that complicate that, in particular

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Speaker 4: the deal that Trey McBride just got for nineteen million

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Speaker 4: you're not getting the number one tight end in the

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Speaker 4: like that was something that people would always preach is, well,

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Speaker 4: you know, I don't want to take tight end in

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Speaker 4: means he's a top three tight end or top when

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Speaker 4: a big discount. And I always hated that thinking it's like, dude,

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Speaker 4: take the best player. I get it financially, but you're

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Speaker 4: win playoff games as opposed to worrying about how you're

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Speaker 4: saving money at the wide receiver position. Just draft, well,

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Speaker 4: off track because it doesn't exist anymore, is what I'm

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Speaker 4: getting at With Trey McBride now making nineteen million bucks

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Speaker 4: just that good. They're incredible players, miss walking mismatches, and

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Speaker 4: looking at those players being there at twenty two when

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Speaker 4: they're valued that high, seemingly across the board from all

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, wide receives another thing we keep hearing

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Speaker 2: but you know, Ted McMillan is wide receiver one, Matthew

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Speaker 3: You got Abuca Luther Burden. So I don't know if the.

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Speaker 2: Chargers are gonna pull the trigger on a wide receiver

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Speaker 2: in the top thirty five three straight years.

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Speaker 3: After Quentin Johnson, A lab mcclawkcky'. It's very possible.

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Speaker 2: I think if Matthew Golden is there, I mean, we

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Speaker 2: just you brought a McMillan at the top. I don't

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Speaker 4: But it's hard to Like half the mock trafts have

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Speaker 4: him sliding, which is weird. I don't and there's no

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Speaker 3: But the McMillan thing is one of.

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Speaker 4: Whereas the tight Ends are interesting because I like this

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Speaker 4: watch Harold fannin I'm like, Damn, I really like Harold Fannon.

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Speaker 4: Look what he just put on Texas A and M

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Speaker 4: He's relentless and he's got this weird gait in this

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Speaker 4: Arroyo and you can see it. You're like, Okay, well

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Speaker 4: that's a big reason why cam Ward had a great season.

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Speaker 4: So then I'm like, Okay, I think there might be

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Speaker 1: And I feel good about that. You know, you're talking about.

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Speaker 4: Five hundred snaps for Conklin is a pass catching tight

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Speaker 4: end and obviously we know how I'm often Will Disney's

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Speaker 4: let's get that. If you know, don't freak out if

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Speaker 4: Loveland or Warren falled, don't fall to you, because I

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Speaker 1: Excuse me.

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Speaker 4: That's like, it's not the end of the world, is

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying. If you're like, if you have your

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Speaker 4: I still think there's other options available that could be

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Speaker 4: so five years that I could totally see making sense

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Speaker 2: You know, the opinions on these guys are wild. I'm

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Speaker 2: trying to find I saw Matt Harmon.

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Speaker 2: Benjamin Albright talking about TEP McMillan seeing media comps of

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Speaker 2: So you know, we have Mike Evans going to the

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Speaker 2: and I guess maybe his eat is a concern. But

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Speaker 1: Basically?

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Speaker 4: How about I don't know, I feel like I got

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he's six', four he's two.

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Speaker 4: Fifteen he knows how to high point a ball and

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Speaker 4: always wins at the catch. Point and he doesn't run

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Speaker 4: a four to four to. Forty he's closer to a

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Speaker 4: Tet he's got this ability to just break away from

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Speaker 4: if If Mike williams is a is a ball peen,

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Speaker 4: hammer you, Know ted McMillan is a velvet. Hammer it's

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Speaker 4: like he is so smooth in his explosions and just

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Speaker 4: feels like it's a boxing match and he's gonna knock

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Speaker 4: this sort of way about, him about his body controlled.

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Speaker 4: Downfield it's just it's kind of, art you. Know it's

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Speaker 4: it's beautiful to. Watch AND i think some people find

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Speaker 4: that concern and they're, like, WELL i can't. Separate he's

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Speaker 4: always he's always in a battle for the and it's, like,

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Speaker 4: so what's it, matter you? Know AND i think that's

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Speaker 4: some of the things you're in and it's it's funny

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Speaker 4: matt's awesome and reception perception is, awesome but you, know

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Speaker 4: he's someone that has issues with some of these receivers as,

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Speaker 4: Kind of, funny you know how how all of that

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Speaker 4: and a downfield vertical. Guy and it's just it's hard

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Speaker 4: know it ultimately doesn't. Matter it's it's what if there's

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Speaker 4: a team that Thinks Mason taylor is just scratching the

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Speaker 3: Off money that that territory where he could. Go.

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Speaker 2: Uh it reminds me a couple of years ago The

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Speaker 2: Maher how ABOUT dj talking About Sam laporta really early

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Speaker 4: maybe an edge slips and they're looking toward the future and,

432
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,200
Speaker 4: like hey, man we didn't think or they like As,

433
00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,560
Speaker 4: araku or they like one of those other edges that.

434
00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,600
Speaker 4: Slides maybe they're comfortable with the off field stuff From

435
00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,280
Speaker 4: Mike green and they're, like he's too, talented he is

436
00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,720
Speaker 4: way too, good and we've done all our homework and

437
00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:57,919
Speaker 4: we feel all right about the off field stuff and

438
00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,159
Speaker 4: that's why he. Slid but we're good and we're, comfortable and,

439
00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 4: like those are things that happen on draft. Day Laramie

440
00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:08,920
Speaker 4: tunsel and a freaking bong, mask you, know the universally

441
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,879
Speaker 4: acknowledged number one left, tackle and next, thing you, know

442
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:17,520
Speaker 4: the weirdest draft issue we've ever seen ever caused him

443
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,000
Speaker 4: to slide until The dolphins were.

444
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:19,960
Speaker 1: Like what are we?

445
00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,439
Speaker 4: Doing this is ridiculous draft the guy and he's one

446
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:24,960
Speaker 4: of the best left tackle you, know so you never,

447
00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,640
Speaker 4: know you, know you never know what weird things are

448
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:32,479
Speaker 4: gonna happen on draft, day and any of those things coming.

449
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:33,920
Speaker 4: Up but going back to my original point with the,

450
00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,359
Speaker 4: defense it's, like, yeah it's very possible that there's a

451
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,920
Speaker 4: receiver sitting, there and there's a tight end sitting, there

452
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,960
Speaker 4: or there is an offensive lineman sitting, there and they're

453
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 4: just like, Man Kenneth grant is number twelve on our

454
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 4: top one, Hundred Derek harmon's number, Eleven Walter nolan's number.

455
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:55,200
Speaker 4: Eight what are we can't pass on these? Guys this

456
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 4: is way too much value at twenty. Two even though

457
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:02,160
Speaker 4: this is the more pressing, Need we've got to take this.

458
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 3: Guy money that was next on my.

459
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 2: Notes you Lose Joey khalil probably one more, Year Bud

460
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 2: dupree one more. Year daan has six edge, players six

461
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 2: edge players in his top twenty. Two SO i can

462
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,639
Speaker 2: envision a scenario where The chargers are up at twenty.

463
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 3: Two one of.

464
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 2: Those six edge guys is, there and that person is

465
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,399
Speaker 2: ranked like number two or three edge behind like a

466
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:33,440
Speaker 2: Dual carter and somebody, else, right and the value is,

467
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 2: there and you have to take that player at twenty two.

468
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,680
Speaker 3: Overall SO i mean the fact that we're so deep

469
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 3: at that.

470
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,120
Speaker 2: Position and then defensive tackle in, general LIKE i could

471
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 2: see them waiting on defensive tackle because they figure they

472
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 2: can get a guy in the second. Round they have

473
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 2: a first round great On but this edge thing is.

474
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 4: Interesting, YEAH i think it is because like the edge class,

475
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 4: issue just talking first round edge class is. Weird it's really.

476
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,680
Speaker 4: Weird like you've got the production as a raku and

477
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 4: he's kind of what you think of as an, edge.

478
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 4: Right the get off is great as they shut the

479
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 4: lights out on.

480
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,119
Speaker 2: You, Again it's just, it's you know, What i'm in

481
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 2: this office though all The, YEAH i think it's, fine

482
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 2: but to, me it happens to me every fifteen minutes

483
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 2: When i'm working in this.

484
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 1: Office i'm not gonna. LIE i don't.

485
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 4: Know if you've got some makeup on for being on THE.

486
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 4: Tv there's a little bit of a vampire Vibe i'm

487
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 4: getting off you because you got The widow's, peak you,

488
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 4: know and you've got a little bit of vampire vibe

489
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 4: Going Chris so with the lights out and like a vampire.

490
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:31,360
Speaker 1: Exactly we're.

491
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,440
Speaker 4: Good but, yeah Like Jalen, walker small man, like people

492
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 4: are projecting him to go in the top seven and

493
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 4: then when you look at the, measurables he's six one

494
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 4: with thirty two inch. Arms it's, Like, okay that guy's going,

495
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,640
Speaker 4: like but he's, good you, know but he's a good.

496
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,400
Speaker 4: Player he's he's you, know another one of These georgia defensive.

497
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 4: Linemen Shamar stewart blew the doors off the, combine, right

498
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 4: he's got no. Production guy's got four and a half

499
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 4: sacks in his college.

500
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 1: CAREER, whoa what about the? Pressures?

501
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 4: Congratulations how can you only have four and a half?

502
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 4: Sacks like that's The Shemar stewart. Thing so is that

503
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 4: guy gonna be sitting there at twenty? Two and do

504
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 4: you value traits? Overproduction AND a AND m was a weird.

505
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 4: Defense and then you've Got Michael, williams who's got all

506
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,959
Speaker 4: the measurables That Jalen walker doesn't. Have but some people are, like,

507
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 4: eh not quite sure about My so like any of

508
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:28,160
Speaker 4: those guys could be, There, Walker Stuart, williams As, iraku

509
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 4: and like you, said they could all make sense at

510
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 4: twenty two and we'd all be, like, oh, yeah, YEAH

511
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 4: i can see. That Khalil mack is thirty four and

512
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 4: wasn't sure if he was going to retire or come.

513
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 4: Back Bud dupreese on the back on the last year

514
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 4: of his, deal and all you would have going forward Is. Tuley,

515
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 4: well of course you take an, edge and so like

516
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 4: that makes sense as as well like any of that.

517
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 4: Stuff and then it's, funny LIKE i was doing this

518
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:56,680
Speaker 4: stuff with With lorenzo and all the comments so many

519
00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 4: people are it's such a funny position to discuss because

520
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 4: it's super. Polarizing on one, half you've, got, hey, guys

521
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 4: why is nobody talking about? Corner you got two second

522
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 4: your players that were fifth round selections last, year Cam

523
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 4: hart was obviously dealing with some serious issues with concussions

524
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 4: with a little bit of injury, action and you sign

525
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 4: to sort, of, hey we think these guys will fit

526
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 4: In jackson And Saint. Jews why is nobody talking about?

527
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 4: Corner and then the other side of it, is you

528
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 4: know be, like, oh couldn't possibly TELL i don't care

529
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 4: If Will johnson, Slides we're not taking corner in the first.

530
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 1: Round how do you?

531
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 4: Know you got to you gotta beef up the, lines

532
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 4: or you've got to get us a. Weapon it's like

533
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,360
Speaker 4: that corner's a. Weapon you forget corners a, weapon, guys

534
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 4: when you got a real good. One, uh, look at

535
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 4: what The Philadelphia eagles did with With quinnyon and With

536
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 4: cooper and how much that worked out for, them taking

537
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,400
Speaker 4: two rookie corners that ended, up you, know helping them

538
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 4: get to a freaking Super bowl and win.

539
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:59,120
Speaker 2: It Will johnson is the PLAYER i have written down

540
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 2: right here as the THAT i think would be the

541
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 2: perfect fit at the perfect time for The. Chargers this

542
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 2: was An All american To, michigan who was the DEFENSIVE

543
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 2: mvp in The National Championship, game who had his best

544
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 2: years Under Jesse. MINTTER i think last year a little

545
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 2: bit different With Wink Wink, martindale a little bit of

546
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 2: a different. Scheme but this is a guy that Coach

547
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 2: harball And Jesse mitz are very familiar, with and a

548
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 2: couple of weeks, AGO i know we talked about the

549
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 2: SUCCESS i Saw.

550
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 3: Tar he's still a Rich. EISEN i, mean Like Tar

551
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 3: heap had a really good. Year Cam hart had a

552
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 3: really good. Year BUT i.

553
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 2: Don't think that there's enough tape and enough time on

554
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 2: task to be completely comfortable with.

555
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 3: That position and the secondary in.

556
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 2: General and if a guy Like Will johnson is, there

557
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 2: you set up. MONEY i, Mean Quinya mitchell And cooper

558
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 2: dejen went to A Super bowl and won. It The

559
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 2: gene had a pick six in that game and throughout

560
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 2: the entire. Season the secondary of the year before For

561
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 2: philly was. Terrible and to get those two guys to

562
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 2: make as big a difference as they made throughout the

563
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 2: season and especially in the, PLAYOFFS i think that that's

564
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 2: definitely something to look at and, Say, okay, listen If

565
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 2: Will johnson's, there and you know the defensive coordinator has

566
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 2: a great deal of respect and knows him very, WELL

567
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 2: i don't, know it feels like a perfect pick to.

568
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: Me, Yeah i'd be.

569
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 4: Surprised like The Will johnson things, strange, Right it Depends

570
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 4: AND i don't want to say this with. Certainty this

571
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 4: is just sort of some of the stuff that's being

572
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 4: pushed around there is you, know he's not going to

573
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,679
Speaker 4: run a forty and that some of the medical stuff

574
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 4: he's like even they're like, saying hey, MAN i could

575
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 4: see this guy just saying, no not, gonna not gonna

576
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 4: give it to. You, tay you look at the. Tape

577
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 4: go to the. Tape that's that's my. Resume if you

578
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 4: don't like, It i'm.

579
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 2: Fine and who who and who would be comfortable with

580
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 2: that line of thinking money.

581
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 4: Right and that's that's how he could. Slide but if

582
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 4: you push that stuff, aside, yeah this guy is if

583
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 4: you're playing, zone he's gonna knock it out of the.

584
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 4: Park and he is you, know he's the, size he's

585
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 4: THE iq he sees. It and that to me is,

586
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 4: like what's the most important? Thing and that's Why Johddy

587
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,239
Speaker 4: barron's like so highly thought of. Too it's, like well

588
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 4: what about? This what's he lie?

589
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: Five what is he?

590
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 4: Five five eleven one hundred and ninety four? Pounds like

591
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 4: they're concerned about the. Size i'm, like, DUDE i don't.

592
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 4: Care you watch tape Of baron and he is just

593
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 4: freaking got a nose for. It he knows what's happening

594
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 4: before it, happens and you can move him all over the.

595
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 4: Field and so those two, guys if they're, there if

596
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 4: one of them is there at twenty, two that would

597
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 4: not surprise me at all BECAUSE i think it's the

598
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 4: question of and we talked about this on Earlier chargers.

599
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 4: Weeklies it's, like, well do you really want to invest

600
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 4: in a position when you can have perhaps a lesser

601
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 4: raw talent player and Coach klink And jesse min are

602
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 4: going to be able to do more with.

603
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: Them and then you can.

604
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 4: Push back on that and, say, yeah but how would

605
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 4: it look if they had any elite, player you, know

606
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 4: if they had an elite, cornerback then what could they?

607
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 4: Do and so that's sort of the push and the

608
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 4: pull of, attacking you, know sort of that debate of

609
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 4: do you is you, know because this defense is played

610
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 4: the way it is Because minter and Clean scale are

611
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 4: so good at. It is that why you can have

612
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 4: these fifth rounders and now you can use that first

613
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 4: round or on a tight, end on a running, back

614
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 4: on a, guard on a defensive, tackle on an edge

615
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 4: because you don't have to worry about corner because they're

616
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 4: going to make it work with whoever you give.

617
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 2: Them, Yeah Will johnson would look good in powder. Blue

618
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 2: and you draft those guys in the first round because they.

619
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 3: Are game, changers, like, yeah that's.

620
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 2: Why that's Why Joe old was selected at, Five that's

621
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,959
Speaker 2: Why darwin was selected at, eighteen and inexplicably was there at.

622
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 3: Eighteen you, know WE i.

623
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 4: Mean how many cars makes you go on the top?

624
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 4: Five Chris, Right Sauce, Gardner Derek, Stingley. Jeffakout even the

625
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,959
Speaker 4: ones that don't work, out they still go in the

626
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 4: top five because that's how war position. Is Denzel ward,

627
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 4: like it's an important premium.

628
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 3: Position, yeah and if you can get it at.

629
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 2: Eighteen and if he's the top quarterback of THIS i

630
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 2: THINK i Think dane has his quarterback too in this.

631
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: Track, yes Behind Travis.

632
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 3: Hunter, Yeah Travis's, Yeah travis is a. UNICORN i Think

633
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 3: travis should be the one overall.

634
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 4: Pick travis is gonna. Go travis is you, know if It's,

635
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 4: cleveland she's gonna be a wide. Receiver, Yeah like he's

636
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 4: the best receiver on their. Team SO i would assume

637
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 4: that's where he's going to. Get the majority of his.

638
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: Snaps would be him At judy, Right, yeah he's.

639
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 4: BATTER i, mean you, KNOW i Like Jerry, judy But

640
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 4: Travis hunter is a different level. Man Like that's AND

641
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 4: i think for like IF i were A gm or

642
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 4: IF i were LIKE, I i would say to my coaching, staff, hey,

643
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 4: MAN i want this guy playing both. Ways LIKE i

644
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 4: want him playing both. Ways if he's willing to do,

645
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 4: It i'm willing to do. It let's at least figure

646
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 4: it out and you, guys tell me how we can

647
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 4: make that. Happen cause it's LIKE i just, think AND

648
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 4: i know football is way different because it's a violent,

649
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 4: sport but it's, like you, know teams met With otani

650
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 4: and basically told, him, yeah we we think you're a

651
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 4: better pitcher than a hitter and that's the path we'd

652
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 4: want to. Go and he's, like, no that's not What i'm.

653
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 4: Doing and The angels we're, like, no you're you're playing both, ways,

654
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 4: Man you're and, that and it's just AND i think

655
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 4: that's that's. It, anyway that's not For chargers.

656
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 2: WEEKLY i hope those people ARE i hope those people

657
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 2: are not in baseball anymore after fifty to fifty clubs and,

658
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 2: right but but you, know all offensive line. Too maddy

659
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 2: is another position GROUP i wanted to get to because you,

660
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 2: know we spoke about kind of the the one. Year

661
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 2: Andre james is you, Know beckton for a couple of

662
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 2: years and so they have a plan for twenty twenty.

663
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 2: Five but the top Guard Tyler booker and In Grey.

664
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 2: ZABEL i think those are the two names that could

665
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 2: make sense for The chargers if they're. THERE i Think

666
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 2: booker is regarded as the top guard in this class

667
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 2: and a run heavy, scheme and And, zabel you, know

668
00:31:59,680 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 2: as a.

669
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 3: Center you, know we've talked about the challenges at.

670
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 2: Center both could be nice fits AND i just you

671
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 2: can't underestimate hardball And ortiz just continuing to attack that offensive.

672
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 4: Line, yeah that's. It looks it's the most. Important is

673
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 4: what a coach call, it tip of the, spear and

674
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 4: it's what they all came in. Preaching we're going to play.

675
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 4: Physical that's What we're going to. Be a, physical downhill football.

676
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 4: Team and unless you have the offensive line to do,

677
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 4: that to open up the holes and the running back

678
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 4: to hammer at, home then, okay that's what you want to.

679
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 4: Be but are You AND i think we saw it

680
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 4: at times last, year and we saw it get away

681
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 4: from them at times last year where they weren't the

682
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 4: most physical team on the field on A sunday or

683
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 4: A thursday or A monday or A. Saturday so, LIKE

684
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 4: i think that's that's why offensive line is so is

685
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 4: so often discussed with this, team because that's that's the most.

686
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 4: Important everybody's, like, oh well now you GOT, Nauj now

687
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 4: you can be that physical. Team well, yeah that's How nauji,

688
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 4: runs but you need the holes to open. Up now

689
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 4: she's not she's gonna get.

690
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: You what's? Blocked?

691
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 4: What how did you block it? Up he's gonna get

692
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 4: it for. You he's gonna be a hammer and he's

693
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 4: gonna get it for. You but you better block it,

694
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 4: up you, know because it's not like He's Barry sanders back,

695
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 4: there you, know just making defenders miss and rolling jump

696
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 4: cuts and redirecting and bouncing it outside like, no he's

697
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 4: he's a hammer and he's gonna punish, You so you

698
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 4: got to block it. Up so THAT'S i think where

699
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 4: the question comes. In now the question, becomes you, know

700
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 4: can you get that in the later, rounds which typically

701
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 4: you can, right typically you can get you, Know Trey

702
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 4: smith And Creed humphrey and for The, chiefs and neither

703
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 4: of those guys were first round, picks you, know and

704
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 4: very you, know regularly we see these interior offensive linemen

705
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 4: get scooped up in the second and the third and the,

706
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 4: fourth and that's kind of what you could be talking about.

707
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 4: Then instead Of Gray's abel in the first round LIKE i,

708
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 4: saw you, know they Were Charles grant's pro, Day like

709
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 4: that's you, know small, school a little bit more of

710
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 4: a project and you know kick inside from tackle will

711
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,479
Speaker 4: you And? Mary and that's kind of, Where, okay now

712
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 4: we can get that with our third round and then

713
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 4: you can start pushing it down into your fourth and your.

714
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 4: Fifth you got all those sixth round and it's, like,

715
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 4: okay now is you kind of start going through all

716
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 4: the guards and Centers we talked, about you, Know Jake

717
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 4: major right at when we were At major's when we

718
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 4: were at the combine and how you know what the

719
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 4: thought is on him and a leader and you, know

720
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 4: Helping texas get into that playoff and make a run

721
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 4: at a national, championship and, like those are guys you're

722
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 4: getting in the fifth and sixth and it's like, perfect you,

723
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 4: know those are the guys you can develop as long

724
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 4: as you have that one year fix right. Now and

725
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 4: so that's kind of WHAT i think they're going to

726
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 4: be balancing. Out how does this thing go With zion at?

727
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 4: Center and are we looking for a? Guard are we

728
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 4: looking for a? Center are we looking for? Both and

729
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 4: you know that's that's something that's certainly going to be

730
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 4: kicked around with this front. Office AND i don't know

731
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 4: if it's first. Round considering where some of the other

732
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 4: talent is in this first round on that vertical board

733
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 4: as opposed to the horizontal board where you're ranking positions as,

734
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 4: WELL i JUST i feel like maybe it's it's not

735
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 4: quite the value that they might have at another.

736
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 2: Position fair to, say take out, quarterback take out, tackle

737
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 2: take out, linebacker every other position on the.

738
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 4: Table, SAFETY i don't. THINK i don't think safety would

739
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 4: be in play in the first. ONE i think they

740
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 4: should draft a safety for. SURE i, mean A lowe

741
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 4: is going to be a free agent after this, year

742
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 4: SO i do think they should take a safety at some.

743
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 4: Point but, YEAH i think those would be the. Four,

744
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 4: obviously you, know tackle unless it's a tackle you're converting

745
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 4: to an interior alignment like A gray's able tackle line

746
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 4: inside the off. Ball, linebacker, safety and quarterback would be the.

747
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 4: Four anything else, corner, edge, interior and then obviously on

748
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 4: the offensive side. INTERIOR i think running back if you

749
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 4: find value, there if you think because this is something

750
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 4: that we talked about in the past two AND i

751
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:00,959
Speaker 4: saw an article In The End athletic that was talking

752
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,760
Speaker 4: about what a mistake it would be to Draft Ashton

753
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 4: genty in the top. Ten AND i get, that you,

754
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 4: know because it goes into what we talked, about and

755
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 4: that's that you better be ready to win right now

756
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,760
Speaker 4: if you're going to invest like that in a running.

757
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 4: Back and so when you look at the top ten

758
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 4: and you start Going, Titans, Browns, Giants, Patriots, Jags, Raiders, Jets, Panthers,

759
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 4: saints does that sound like a group of teams that

760
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 4: are ready to win right now that you could drop

761
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 4: this running back in? Now The bears at ten are

762
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 4: interesting because they invested so much money in that offensive,

763
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 4: line trading for guys Like, tuney paying guys to come,

764
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 4: in and they've GOT Dj moore and they've Got Cole,

765
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 4: kamet like they have all the pieces and it's a

766
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 4: decent defense where you could, say, OKAY i could probably see, that.

767
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 3: And they had The Cowboys, Gibbs yeah.

768
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 4: Exactly so like that's sort of where you can see

769
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 4: it makes. Sense but outside of, that it's, like you,

770
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 4: know are the are The chargers that? Team and then

771
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 4: does that Bring Marine hampton into the conversation at twenty,

772
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 4: two like, yeah, man we're ready to.

773
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 1: Go we are.

774
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 4: Ready we won eleven games last, year we made the

775
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 4: playoffs like we're we're ready to get these next five

776
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 4: years or six. Years if you include the franchise tag

777
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 4: of a running back you, know to to contribute and

778
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 4: so then then that's where it does make.

779
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 2: Sense hampton's another guy to me that seems like he's

780
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 2: gonna go higher than than twenty. TWO i could be,

781
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 2: wrong but, yeah it's IT'S i think it's very possible

782
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 2: that he could. Go and the Whole Nazi harris thing,

783
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 2: too money is when he had conversations With jim And,

784
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 2: JOE i imagine that he expects to be the bell.

785
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 3: Cow he has not missed the. Game he started every

786
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 3: game he's played in THE.

787
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 2: Nfl but if someone like him or In hampton drops

788
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 2: at twenty, two, yeah you have to have a real.

789
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 3: Conversation but is.

790
00:37:56,200 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 2: There another running back then million compliment that compliments what he.

791
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 2: DOES i feel Like Treyvon, henderson is that.

792
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 3: Like that home run?

793
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 1: Hitter yeah that you, KNOW i don't.

794
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 2: THINK i don't Think nase has had a run over

795
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 2: like thirty five yards in THE. Nfl, right if you

796
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 2: compare him with the guy that that's capable of taking

797
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 2: it to the, house to have that threat in the

798
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 2: backfield to go With nausei and his durability and his

799
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 2: ability to chew clock and get the tough. Yards that's

800
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 2: that's something THAT i think can be kind of a

801
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 2: missing piece to an offense as.

802
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 4: Well, yeah and that's you, know and then it's, like,

803
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 4: hey do we want more the same and to continue

804
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 4: to punish defenses and like there's just no letting. Off you,

805
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 4: know it's not the foot on the, gas it's the

806
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 4: foot on the. Throat and is that the style of

807
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 4: back that it's, Like, oh Here's Quinchewn. Judkins, hey you

808
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 4: thought you were gonna get a break With Naji harris

809
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 4: running you. Over, nope here comes here Comes judkins and

810
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 4: his two hundred and twenty five pounds pounding it as.

811
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 4: Well SO i think there's two schools of thought that, like,

812
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 4: hey you can still just keep running it with the

813
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 4: same style and it's just a new guy with fresh.

814
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 4: Legs it's going to continue to punish you and wear

815
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 4: you down and force you to tackle. Him or, like,

816
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 4: Yeah trayvion is a perfect. Fit like it's a perfect

817
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 4: fit because he's great in pass. Pro he catches the

818
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 4: ball and he is explosive as hack man he can,

819
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 4: do but you're talking about PROBABLY i would be really

820
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 4: surprised if he was there at fifty. Five so now

821
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 4: you're talking about a trade down scenario or a trade

822
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 4: up scenario and in the second, round and then you

823
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 4: know you got a. Way, okay what's the difference Between

824
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 4: henderson And Dylan samson Or henderson and R. J. Hart,

825
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 4: Now harvey's very. Small you, Know henderson's five po.

826
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 1: TEN.

827
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 4: Rj harvey's five. Eight so like you're talking. About but you,

828
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 4: know like TODAY i was doing THE nfl boot camp

829
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,760
Speaker 4: thing and you, know saw my old Friend Maurice jones

830
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,280
Speaker 4: drew and why did he slide to the second? Round

831
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 4: because people were, like, ooh he's, awesome but he's five.

832
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 4: Eight it's, like, yeah he's five, eight and he is

833
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 4: a bad, dude and you can't knock him, down and

834
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 4: he is strong as a freaking ou and if you

835
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 4: let up your guard for a half, second let down

836
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 4: your guard for a half, second he's gonna blow you

837
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 4: off your. Feet and like people just they didn't want

838
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 4: to believe. It and then when he got to the,

839
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 4: league it's, like, oh, yeah this guy runs circles Around

840
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 4: Reggie bush because he's so freaking, tough and he's as

841
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 4: fast as, elusive can catch the ball in the, backfield

842
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 4: can return punt Like and so that's the interesting thing ABOUT.

843
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: Rj.

844
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 4: Harvey it's, like, hey don't forget you, know, yes there's

845
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 4: a little bit of a concern there at five, eight

846
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 4: two hundred five, pounds but you know THAT'S i Mean Ashton,

847
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 4: genty everybody's talking about him as a AND i was

848
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 4: again BECAUSE i was just With. Maurice he's, like, man,

849
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 4: goes everybody's Comparing Ashton genty to. Me Now he's, like

850
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 4: why DO i gotta go in the second? Round And

851
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 4: Ashton genty's gonna be picked in the top five or, something, man,

852
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,959
Speaker 4: exactly because that's What kenty Is Like genty is he's

853
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 4: five eight and he's two hundred and fifteen pounds and

854
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 4: he does not go down when you try to tackle.

855
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 4: HIM i, mean he's and if you were to tell

856
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 4: a team that was ready to win right, now, hey

857
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 4: we're gonna give You Maurice Jones drew and drop him

858
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 4: into your, BACKFIELD i was, like, yes, Please i'll sign

859
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 4: up for that. Immediately SO i think, That but What

860
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 4: i'm trying to get to is there's so many, backs

861
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 4: AND i think with, Look skataboo's another, one, Right, skataboo

862
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 4: and just sort of the way that he's built and

863
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 4: the size and the concern about because he's five nine

864
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 4: and a half two. Sixteen you, know some people are

865
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 4: worried about the. Explosiveness and it's, like is that is?

866
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 4: That is he The Traveon henderson that you're talking about

867
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 4: to Compliment? Naji, No But i'm fine with him being

868
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 4: the compliment To naugy because it's, like, yeah, dude you're

869
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 4: not getting up off the. Floor scataboo's bringing the lumber as,

870
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 4: well and you're gonna continue to get the crud kicked

871
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 4: out of.

872
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 3: You So dane has thirteen thirteen.

873
00:41:54,800 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 2: Running backs that have at least a third round grade on.

874
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 3: Them that's. INSANE i, mean that's.

875
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 2: Okay so Outside ashton And Amarin, hampton you know he

876
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 2: Is Caleb johnson is his third. Back trevion is this,

877
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 2: Fourth judkins is this. Fifth samson is a. Sixth Jordan,

878
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 2: james who we heard a lot about at the. Combine

879
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 2: you MENTIONED. Rj harvey at, Eight trevor etn From georgia at,

880
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 2: Nine tooting from ten at.

881
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: Ten Lancer line's favorite, guy, remember.

882
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 2: Yeah top, ten top ten running, back and then you Got,

883
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 2: Hunter scattaboo And.

884
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 3: Giddons all with at least a third round grade on.

885
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: Them.

886
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 4: Yeah SO i think that's that's where the Whole hampton

887
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 4: conversation comes, in, like, hey how much how much of

888
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 4: a difference? Maker is he right to draft him at

889
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 4: one or as you just, said you just rattled off

890
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 4: thirteen guys that you know you're gonna be able to

891
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 4: get one of those in the third in that.

892
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 3: Ballpark, yeah if they're in that.

893
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,280
Speaker 2: Ballpark and then we just talked about six edge guys

894
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 2: that you, know one of the more premium positions in the, End,

895
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 2: phil if If joe has a has an edge player

896
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 2: as a top ten prospect that falls at twenty. Two

897
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 2: this whole exercise we've done for forty five minutes buy

898
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 2: and it just it shows us that we don't have

899
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 2: no idea what's gonna Happen draft.

900
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 4: Two i'll talk to you, well and that's what's, Funny like

901
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 4: if you Go SO i went through all the mock.

902
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 4: DRAFTS i went through the most RECENT nfl Dot com

903
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 4: which Was rhett who does a path to the draft

904
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 4: with dj and And bucky and you know he calls,

905
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 4: games and you know he's Former indiana, receiver so he's

906
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 4: super deep into the big Tenht ret's got his, connections

907
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 4: he knows what he's, doing and he's Got Colston loveland

908
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 4: falling to The. CHARGERS i look at Mel, kuiper and

909
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 4: Mel kiper has Got Gray's abel going to him in

910
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 4: the first And Mason taylor going to him in the.

911
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 4: SECOND i go TO pff and they've got The chargers

912
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 4: trading up to sixteen to Get Matthew golden and giving

913
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 4: up their third round pick and their fifth round pick

914
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 4: to do. It and it's, like, Okay so there's. That

915
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 4: and then And i'm trying to think of what the

916
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 4: other one was THAT i went. TO i hit, up

917
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 4: oh the uh that might have been the athletic. ONE

918
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 4: i don't know one of. Them and then one of

919
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 4: them had him Drafting Kenneth, grant the defensive tackle out

920
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 4: Of michigan point being every mock DRAFT i. Checked, Oh Chad,

921
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 4: ruder who did a five ROUNDER i think had him

922
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 4: taken As, araku the edge out Of Boston. College So

923
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 4: i'm bringing that all up to illustrate they can do

924
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 4: anything Like that's that's how good of a job they've

925
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 4: done building some depth out that they can that each

926
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 4: of these people that had to post a mock draft

927
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 4: THAT i respect AND i think do a great job

928
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 4: for their for their, outlets all gave them a different,

929
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 4: player different, position different side of the, ball and it's

930
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 4: all over the.

931
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 2: Map, yeah just talking this out with, You edge makes

932
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 2: a lot of, sense And corner makes a lot of.

933
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 2: Sense AND i may THINK i think that maybe those

934
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 2: are like the two maybe more underreported or less lesser

935
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 2: talked about positions as we go through this. Exercise and you,

936
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 2: know we talked so much at the combine about so

937
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 2: many different. Players but the way that this is shook

938
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 2: out With joey going To buffalo With khalil kind of

939
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 2: with the last dance situation And bud, being you, know

940
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 2: maybe one more year left here In Los, Angeles Like

941
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 2: edge makes a lot of.

942
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:22,399
Speaker 4: Sense, yeah but you know WHAT i think the other

943
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 4: thing With edge two is you, know if you're a year,

944
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,919
Speaker 4: out donn't dress it in a, year you, know like

945
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 4: like you don't need to rush to do it this,

946
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 4: year because like IF i were to tell, you, hey

947
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,479
Speaker 4: what do you need more this year tackle or. Edge

948
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 4: and if you're sitting there at twenty two and you

949
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,240
Speaker 4: have similar grades on let's say As iraku And harmon

950
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,479
Speaker 4: and their neck and, neck and it's, like, yeah same,

951
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 4: grade what do we?

952
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: Do?

953
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 4: Well you Take harmon Because harmon's going to get a

954
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,399
Speaker 4: heck of a lot more snaps this year than as

955
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 4: A raku is probably going to get this year because

956
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 4: you got two, lead you Got, khalil you Got, Bud

957
00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 4: so you just draft the edge next.

958
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: Year and a.

959
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 4: Lot of that has to do with, okay, well but

960
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 4: how special is the? Player like who is?

961
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: It you? Know and THAT'S i think what people.

962
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 4: Forget it's, like, well we got to get an edge this, year,

963
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 4: okay but who's the? Edge which edge are you?

964
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 1: Getting you?

965
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 4: Know because if you're taking that, edge you know what's

966
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:18,280
Speaker 4: your opportunity? Cost, well your opportunity cost Is Derek, Harmon Kenneth,

967
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 4: Grant Walter, nolan could be T, mac it could Be Colston,

968
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 4: lovelin it could Be Gray's Able like that's that's all you.

969
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 4: Know your sunk cost IS i need an edge Because

970
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 4: Bud depre And Khalil mack might not be here next. Year,

971
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 4: okay that's, fine but don't don't pass up on the

972
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 4: opportunity and the alternative that's staring you in the face

973
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 4: for right. Now and SO i think THAT'S i think

974
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 4: for people that are kind of worried about down the,

975
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 4: road you. Know and now she's only on a one year. Deal,

976
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 4: okay it's gonna be running backs next, year SO i

977
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 4: dress it next year or maybe. Not she has a

978
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 4: great year and he gets signed to, another you, know

979
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 4: two or three year deal and it worked out great

980
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 4: and everybody. Wins and SO i think that's you, know,

981
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,240
Speaker 4: well what about what if might gets? Hurt, OKAY i understand.

982
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 4: THAT i understand that, concern you, know but is maybe

983
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 4: that wide receiver temax off the board and now you're

984
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 4: just going to reach for a guy that you had

985
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 4: as your twenty ninth ranked prospect instead of taking the

986
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 4: guy that you had as your sixteenth ranked.

987
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: Prospect you know, THAT i just.

988
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 4: DON'T i think the most healthy way to fill out

989
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 4: a draft is to Take and everybody says, it and

990
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 4: then they get in the middle of, it and it's

991
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 4: hard because you got the coaches in the room and

992
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 4: you got the scouts in the, room and they're just

993
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 4: all politicking for their, guy and you can get pushed

994
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 4: and pulled in different directions as opposed to just, saying, hey,

995
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 4: guys where are we. At this is our consensus board

996
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 4: as a, team and we're at pick twenty, two and oh,

997
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 4: look there's the guy that's sitting at fifteen on our,

998
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 4: board and that's a seventh spot value for. Us so

999
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 4: we're just gonna go ahead and take. Them and SO

1000
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 4: i think that's the best way to approach this and

1001
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 4: that's how you end up having great draft. Classes and

1002
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 4: that's what The ravens have always.

1003
00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: Done that's.

1004
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 2: Right you, Know, Joe joe's done a nice job of

1005
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 2: covering his basis for twenty twenty five With Tyler conklin

1006
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 2: And Andre james And Makai becton and you know Guys Najia.

1007
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 2: Harris so they're good going into twenty twenty. Five you,

1008
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 2: know you Hope Mike williams can bounce back With justin

1009
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 2: you're removed from that acl and free agency is still not.

1010
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,240
Speaker 2: Over like there's going to Be vets that are signed

1011
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:26,240
Speaker 2: after the draft as, well maybe in the wide receivers,

1012
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 2: room maybe in other. Positions but, Yeah i'm with, you,

1013
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 2: MAN i. AGREE i think that being able to go

1014
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 2: into twenty twenty five knowing that you have some of

1015
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 2: these veterans in place allows you to maybe home in

1016
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 2: on certain positions that can help you immediately this.

1017
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 3: Year BECAUSE i agree.

1018
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 2: You NEED i think you need a first round pick

1019
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 2: that's going to make an immediate impact this year for this.

1020
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: Team, YEAH i, think you.

1021
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 4: Know then that's sort of the debate on the first

1022
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 4: round is for the most, PART i think the most

1023
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 4: successful teams they're just content to hit. Doubles, dude we

1024
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 4: can't strike. Out you cannot strike out in the first.

1025
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 4: Round might not hit the home, run AND i get,

1026
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 4: it you know that that.

1027
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: Player turns into a home.

1028
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 4: Run But i've got enough concern that it could be

1029
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 4: a strikeout AND i can't have that That i'm willing

1030
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:22,240
Speaker 4: to take the, Double give me the, double And i'm

1031
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:26,439
Speaker 4: content to hit the double every single. Time and that's

1032
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 4: where The Gray's abeles come into, play, Right that's where

1033
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:35,479
Speaker 4: Your Derek harmon's and Your Kenneth grants and those type

1034
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 4: of players you, know enter the conversation because it's, Like,

1035
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 4: yeah this is my, double, man AND i feel really

1036
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 4: good about. It for the next five years with my

1037
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 4: fifty year option That i'm going to hit a double

1038
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 4: every year with this guy over and over and over.

1039
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 4: Again Is egbuka the perfect receiver for what we need?

1040
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 4: Know but, MAN i feel like his floor is, here

1041
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 4: and of all the, receivers this is the one THAT

1042
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 4: i feel LIKE i know is a double. Team ac

1043
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 4: might be the home, Run golden with his four to

1044
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 4: two nine might be the home, run But buka is

1045
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 4: my guy THAT i know can do everything and do

1046
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 4: it at a really good, level guaranteed really good.

1047
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: Level so that's where.

1048
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 3: Twenty Two, yeah go, ahead, Buddy, Sorry.

1049
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: That's What i'm, Saying, like that's where that conversation would come.

1050
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 4: In we're, like, wow they took A guka instead Of

1051
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 4: golden and he ran a four two, Nine and it's, like, well,

1052
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 4: yeah but there is some variance there With, golden whereas

1053
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 4: there's a little more just kind of, cute just cruising

1054
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 4: with a player like and that's just my. Opinion that

1055
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 4: may not be everybody's, pay but that's just kind OF

1056
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 4: i think to illustrate the. POINT i think that's that

1057
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 4: can come into the conversation for a lot of. Teams

1058
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 4: and that's why you may see guys go higher at

1059
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 4: a position than somebody else that you thought was rated

1060
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 4: higher because they just want to hit the.

1061
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:53,359
Speaker 3: Double AND i think twenty two is like double territory. Too, yeah,

1062
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:54,399
Speaker 3: right charges are.

1063
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 2: Right in the middle of that. That you, know we

1064
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 2: talked about this at the. Top there's doesn't seem like there's.

1065
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 3: A lot of like nirational players in this. Draft but.

1066
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 2: Earlier points you made too is you, know, yeah get

1067
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 2: a guy with a double and then get coached By

1068
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 2: Jesse minter and get coached by these guys who have been,

1069
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 2: there and you, know it turns into a. Triple and

1070
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 2: that's just something THAT i think can can really kind

1071
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 2: of show itself so. Early you, know we talked about

1072
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 2: Cam hart And tarheet still and what they were able

1073
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 2: to do this. Year obviously their, talent but just the

1074
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 2: coaching and the scheme that stuff.

1075
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 3: Matters so.

1076
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 2: Last THING i wanted to ask you about as we

1077
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 2: as we roll out of here, is, YEAH i Think

1078
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 2: Trey lance was signed maybe an hour after you guys

1079
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,879
Speaker 2: did the. Podcast, yeah thoughts On trey coming to coming

1080
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 2: TO la and, listen a chance to develop and maybe

1081
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 2: to a backup quarterback in this.

1082
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 4: League, yeah you, KNOW i have a couple of. Thoughts

1083
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 4: one is like people were freaking. OUT i got a

1084
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 4: bunch of friends that are charged with fans that are

1085
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 4: like six and a half million. DOLLARS i was, like,

1086
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 4: yeah that's an, agent, league that's that's an agent telling

1087
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 4: you that it could be up to six and a.

1088
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 4: Half it's probably way lower than. That and you need

1089
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:03,439
Speaker 4: a third order. Back and this, regime you, know moved

1090
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 4: on From easton and needed to find a third. Quarterback

1091
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 4: and here's a guy that's really smart and has some

1092
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 4: really good tools and you put them in that room

1093
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 4: and you feel pretty good about, it you, know and that's,

1094
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 4: fine and it's and look what did The chargers do

1095
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 4: in training camp last? Year they traded a sixth round

1096
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 4: pick For Taylor. Heineke so let's say you're running through training,

1097
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 4: camp maybe you play a preseason game or, two and

1098
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 4: somebody Sees Trey lance show out with What Greg roman

1099
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 4: and What Shane day were able to do with, him

1100
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 4: and they're, like you know what we need to back? Up, hey,

1101
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 4: GUYS i know you Got Tyler Taylor. HEINIKE i want

1102
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 4: to take a you want to take a fifth For Trey?

1103
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 4: Lance i'd be happy to send it to, you because

1104
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 4: that's What dallas did last year To San. Francisco, Right they're,

1105
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 4: like we'll send you fourth for, him and so like

1106
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 4: that's the other value of it is the opportunity to

1107
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 4: get this guy in your, system get him to look,

1108
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 4: good feel, comfortable go show out in training. Camp have

1109
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 4: The beat writers talk about how Good Trey lance looks

1110
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:00,879
Speaker 4: throwing the ball and in a round and A Greg

1111
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 4: roman system with a running, quarterback and see if you

1112
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 4: can get something out of.

1113
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 2: It, Yeah i'm always for, you know you have a franchise,

1114
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 2: quarterback but having a, room you, know if you if

1115
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 2: you if you need a guy for a week or,

1116
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 2: two having somebody that that can run the system a

1117
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 2: similar skill. Set.

1118
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 3: UH i think all that stuff's.

1119
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:24,399
Speaker 2: Important So i'm rooting for trade because, listen number, three

1120
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 2: overall pick career has not gone the way That i'm

1121
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 2: sure he. Anticipated, Uh but sometimes it's all about fit

1122
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 2: and situation and and maybe The chargers can be the

1123
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 2: place for him to kind of get his career back

1124
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 2: on the.

1125
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 4: Track let's, hope let's hope strack some value out of

1126
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 4: that and hope he has a good.

1127
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 3: Experience all, right anything else.

1128
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 1: Money now they've turned the lights out on, You. Chris

1129
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: let's call it a.

1130
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 2: Night they've they've been up for thirty. MEN i, Mean

1131
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 2: i'm here for the next several. Hours i'll probably be

1132
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 2: just working in the. Dark but appreciate you guys as always,

1133
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 2: listening watching for.

1134
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 3: Money I'm. Chris this has Been chargers. Week see you next.

1135
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: Week Street, Street

1136
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 2: Stree