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Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to stuff Mom never told you?

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Speaker 1: From House Towards dot com. Hey, welcome to the podcast.

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Speaker 1: This is Molly and I'm Kristen and Kristin. If you

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Speaker 1: Must Go, were recorded a podcast about Michelle Obama and

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Speaker 1: the Duties the First Lady Yes, and we talked about

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Speaker 1: how at the time she had just planted a garden

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Speaker 1: at the White House, UH to teach local kids about

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Speaker 1: the importance of planning their own vegetables, organic foods, locally

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Speaker 1: grown foods, and you know, it seems like a pretty

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Speaker 1: noble thing to do, but like most things, she's come

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Speaker 1: under a lot of criticism for it. Right, I think

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Speaker 1: people are a little angered at the fact that she

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Speaker 1: is pushing organic foods during a recession when a lot

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Speaker 1: of people are trying to cut their budgets. And the

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Speaker 1: fact of the matter is organic food is often more

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Speaker 1: expensive than run of the mill normal food. There's a

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Speaker 1: stat that I've found in the Journal of Food Science

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Speaker 1: than regular foods, So that could be putting a pinch

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Speaker 1: pinching the wallet. Yeah, so it's hard to know when

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Speaker 1: you get the grocery store, like, is it worth slling

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Speaker 1: out the additional you know, bucker two or there is

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Speaker 1: that's our topic for today. Are organic foods healthier? Right?

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Speaker 1: And this is not we're not really talking about the

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Speaker 1: environmental impact of organics. Um. This is just having to

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Speaker 1: let's start off with what exactly constitutes organic food according

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Speaker 1: to the U s d A. So the definition of

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Speaker 1: organic food is not so much what it is, but

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Speaker 1: what it isn't. It isn't food that's grown with any

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Speaker 1: sort of fertilizers like sewer sludge fertilizers or synthetic fertilizers. Uh.

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Speaker 1: No pesticides, no genetic engineering, no growth hormones, no antibiotics.

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Speaker 1: And if you're buying organic meat like some Hamburger chicken,

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Speaker 1: they have to those animals type to guarantee some outdoor time,

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Speaker 1: so that you know, their happiness radiates through the final

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Speaker 1: food product right through to the Hamburger delish uh. And

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Speaker 1: all of those restrictions molly add up to higher costs

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Speaker 1: in the grocery stores. With all you know, they might

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Speaker 1: just spraying a bunch of chemical pesticides that could kill

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Speaker 1: the weeds with a lot less manpower. It's a lot

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Speaker 1: more labor upfront. But going back to this question of nutrition,

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Speaker 1: the jury is still out on whether or not organic

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Speaker 1: foods on the whole are actually more nutritious for us

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Speaker 1: to eat. Some say yes, some say no. Well, the

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Speaker 1: thing is is that organic food has become mega popular

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Speaker 1: in the last few years. So the thinking is is

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Speaker 1: that if we're, if some many more people are eating

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Speaker 1: this organic food, we should all be healthier, right, Instead,

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Speaker 1: the obesity rate has skyrocketed. I mean, clearly people are

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Speaker 1: there seems to be some evidence that as long as

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Speaker 1: you're eating any kind of vegetable, that's good for you, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you're if you're just treating up your

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Speaker 1: normal chocolate chip cookies for organic chocolate chip cookies. You're

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Speaker 1: probably not doing yourself that much of a favor. No,

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Speaker 1: it seems to be you know bad Smallly, let's dive

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Speaker 1: right into ten foods that you might want to think

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Speaker 1: go organic. Yeah, because basically, you know, if you're okay

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Speaker 1: My brother likes to say he's pro pesticide when he

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Speaker 1: decides not to buy organic see a Rebel Rouser. He is.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, these are the ones that pesticides really get into.

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Speaker 1: Number ten on our list is meat unless you're vegetarian,

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Speaker 1: Molly or vegan. But I digress. Like you said, when

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Speaker 1: eight on our lists of things too to possibly buy organic,

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Speaker 1: because this all goes back to um pesticides and chickens

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Speaker 1: And as a special little bonus, Kristen, if you buy

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Speaker 1: and the Environmental Working Group was the peach as the

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Speaker 1: number one fruit with the highest concentration of pesticides. I

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Speaker 1: little little tots body. And speaking of tots, pato tots potatoes, Yeah,

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