WEBVTT - Fire Drill 043: Thoughts from the International Team Room 0:00:03.120 --> 0:00:05.840 You've got Patrick Cantlon Zannaschoff, who are sort of best 0:00:05.880 --> 0:00:08.520 friends and an unbelievable pairing. You were justin Thomas and 0:00:08.520 --> 0:00:12.440 George's basically have just incredible chemistry. We're developing Scheffler and 0:00:12.520 --> 0:00:15.520 burns Um all top ten players in the world and 0:00:15.600 --> 0:00:19.200 all unbelievable combinations and good friends. I mean, you get 0:00:19.200 --> 0:00:23.560 three borderline unbeatable sort of pairs in your team. I 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:26.720 mean it's a pretty hard team to beat. I got 0:00:26.960 --> 0:00:32.400 thoughts in my head. Can't get John nothing thing what 0:00:32.440 --> 0:00:39.120 I'm thinking about my head, can't get him now, Nothing 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:49.479 think what I'm thinking about. Hello and welcome back to 0:00:49.520 --> 0:00:52.839 another Fire Drill podcast. This is Alan Schipnuk joined by 0:00:52.880 --> 0:00:58.120 Michael Bamberger in Philadelphia. Jeff Ogilvie in St. Andrew's, Scotland. 0:00:58.200 --> 0:01:01.840 He's there for the Unhill links. Came straight from the 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:05.720 President's Cup, So let's just get to it. Jeff, First 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:09.039 of all, how are you feeling? Are you are? You? Are? You? Are? 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:11.280 You've worn out? Are you run around? Emotion? Like? What 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:16.080 is the state of being right now? I'm pretty tired? 0:01:16.600 --> 0:01:21.040 Um it's now? What is it now? In? Is it 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:24.600 Wednesday yet? No? It's the Tuesday night for me. I 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:26.720 went to the last I last slept on Sunday night 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:32.880 for a little bit. Um yeah, um, so tired from 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:35.360 all the traveling last week, but I'm still pretty high 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:36.960 on last week. We had a really good time. It 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:40.400 was it was a super fun tournament. Um, I feel 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:42.480 like we did really well. We had an unbelievable atmosphere 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:47.080 in the tame room and um yeah, great fun. And 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:48.760 now I'm at the old course. So it's like I'm 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:52.360 having a pretty good run. That's a great run. I mean, 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:56.240 we knew that the Internationals were going to be underdogs, 0:01:56.440 --> 0:02:01.320 obviously missing a few potential, you know, key building blocks 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:05.680 with their defection to Live golf. So the outcome was 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:08.959 not a shock. But I think for just watching at home, 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:15.440 the team spirit, the energy, the vibes, Captain Imbleman's leadership. 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:18.600 Obviously Tom Kim turned into a star. I mean just 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:21.440 take us into the team room and inside the ropes 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:24.560 like didn't Obviously you guys are disappointed to lose, But 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:27.000 what did it feel like to to you to the 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:31.440 international team coming coming out of that that performance? Yeah, 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:34.720 I mean, look it felt good or week. Um, Trevor 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:37.360 did just an unbelievable job as captain. I mean, Ernie 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:41.480 sort of, I don't know, turned the ship around if 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:44.600 you like. Um, I think we've been kind of trading 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:46.320 water a little bit as a team, and Ernie sort 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:50.000 of gave us the shield and sort of created a 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:52.200 bit more of an identity to the team, and sort 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:55.760 of Trevor just jumped up and just ran with it, 0:02:56.120 --> 0:02:59.440 um and just expanded on everything that sort of any 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:03.320 stuff at it and spoiled us rotten and hadn't really 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:06.359 set up incredibly well, and it was just a great 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:08.919 atmosphere from the start. It was. It was an incredible 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:11.400 team and so we we still have started rough. Obviously 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:14.880 there's a Friday. First two sessions, Um, we sort of 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:17.040 put ourselves behind the eight ball. But I think Saturday 0:03:17.040 --> 0:03:20.520 Sunday we kind of we won. We won the last 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:23.000 two days if you like. We didn't win the session 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:25.160 on Sunday, but if all the points over the last 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:29.960 sort of three sessions, we got more and a few 0:03:30.040 --> 0:03:32.160 heroes were born and some pretty cool moments. It was 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:35.360 a pretty it was. It was a super fun tournament 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:40.920 and probably the best one I've been involved with so far. Jeff, 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:42.880 you see these young. You've seen a lot of young 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:45.680 players come up through the years. You've seen Roy Chicawa, 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:49.600 and you've seen Jordan's Speef and lots of other twenty 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:53.120 year olds. Where would you put Mr Kim on the 0:03:53.480 --> 0:03:55.960 on the spectrum? How do you how do you see 0:03:56.000 --> 0:04:01.200 his golfing life unfolding? Yeah, I mean the future is bright, 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:04.240 I think. I mean we hadn't really. I mean, I 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:06.320 guess if you're an area an Avid golffeller or you 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:08.280 sort of might have seen him coming, but most people 0:04:08.280 --> 0:04:10.040 didn't see him coming. And all of a sudden in 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:11.840 summer he started having top tens and then one a 0:04:11.920 --> 0:04:13.960 tournament and now he's in the President's Cup and he's 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:18.000 a hero like Um, he was part of beating Sander 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:21.279 Choffle and Patrick Kentley, so it's a pretty unbeatable pairing 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:26.280 to this point. And I mean they've been incredible. So um, 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:31.880 he's certainly number one in the enthusiasm steaks. Um. He 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:35.040 was incredibly fun. He was up and about all week. 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:37.520 He was the same in the team room as as 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:41.720 you guys saw on the broadcaster at the tournament, just 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:45.000 full of enthusiasm. I guess when you're twenty it's sort 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:49.600 of that's more your headspace. But yeah, he was. He 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:51.360 was so much fun, and he was so excited, and 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:52.960 he didn't want to back down, and he was happy 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:55.880 to get big matches and big games. He kind of 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:58.599 wanted those big moments, you know, and he certainly thrived 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:03.800 in at some of the celebra otions were um, celebrations 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:06.080 were sort of contagious, you know. I mean, even the 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:08.920 US crowd, which is usually sort of pretty one sided, 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:10.839 they sort of all got on Tom Kim's side as 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:12.400 well because he was just so much fun to watch 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:16.279 and um, yeah, incredible. I think he's got a great 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:18.480 he's a great, great future. He hits them all really well, 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:21.560 he's got a great mind obviously, just sort of get 0:05:21.680 --> 0:05:23.560 himself so high and then get him back ready to 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:27.440 play the next hole. And he was massive in the 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:29.279 big moments. I mean, it's hard to explain to people 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:33.960 who haven't. I mean, people can sort of understand sort 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:36.960 of first team nerves and maybe a bit of pressure 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:40.560 and sort of a member guest or normally even just 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:42.360 a little golf of it or something, but the pressure 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:45.280 that you're feeling these sort of tournaments is more than 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:48.320 a major by a long way. I think because you're 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:49.880 sort of carrying your whole team on your back for 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:52.320 those little moments, and when you've got your whole team 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:54.960 driving up in carts and following and in the eighth 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:57.120 grade getting surrounded and you're holding a big part like that, 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:01.280 pretty impress if so. I mean, I think one of 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:03.359 the measures of a golfer is how well they handled 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:05.080 those big moments. And he handled all the big moment 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:07.840 really really well, and and had looked like he was 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:11.080 having the time of his life. What was your favorite 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:14.720 moment of the week, Jeff, There was a few. I 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:17.800 mean Tom and see we're beating Xander and Patrick was 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:23.480 pretty fun. Maybe I think seaweed holding is burdying the 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:28.400 last to beat JT. I think um JT is probably 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:30.160 shaping up to be probably the hardest guy in the 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:33.760 world to beat in that style of event. Loves going 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:37.240 out first, Love sort of sending the tone and he 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:40.480 sort of revs up the crowd and plays up the 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:44.640 fist pumps and sort of it's it's got that feels 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:47.080 sort of like the Mchael Roy Patrick read sort of 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:51.080 match like that really sort of ultra high level sort 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:54.039 of egg each other on sort of try to antagonize 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:57.280 each other a little bit and see we're coming up 0:06:57.320 --> 0:06:59.640 the last and just hitting it close and making the part. 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:02.840 That was the level that they played out for the 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:04.520 last night Holes of a Mad I mean, Kuyle Hollow 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:08.039 last week was really really hard. Like arguably I would 0:07:08.080 --> 0:07:09.360 say it was probably set up a little bit too 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:12.080 hard for a match play tournament. UM. And the way 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:14.760 those guys, some of these guys finished that that tournament off, 0:07:14.800 --> 0:07:17.040 and the way to see we played on Sunday, um 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:21.080 just incredible. So when you see we made that part 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:23.559 in the last hole, it was a pretty pretty amazing feeling. 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:30.320 What did you think of of Justin and his uh 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:34.400 kind of bitchiness about having to hold out you know, 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:37.640 three ft puts in a tense match. What was your 0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:43.120 take on that. I don't I don't get that sort 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:44.600 of thing. I mean, I think that's all part of 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:47.200 match player. I think that. I think I think for 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:49.680 the think the US guys don't grow up playing a 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:53.000 lot of match play and the whole game around gimmes 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:56.200 sort of once that mind game is kind of mind 0:07:56.280 --> 0:08:00.200 games strategy to sort of gimmes and giving and not 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:02.400 giving him, And I think it's all part of the 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:07.760 It's part of match players a game, um, and look 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:11.600 part of justin JT's reaction is is part of the 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:14.200 game as well. You know, that's his mind games on 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:17.520 the way back. So it's all, it's all, it's all 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:19.400 in a good spirit, and he handled it really well, 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:22.440 j T. I I don't love when people complain if 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:24.160 it's they don't get given a part of me, if 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:25.400 it's such a give me just part of it, tap 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:26.640 it in, you know. I mean, if it's like, if 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:27.880 you're never going to miss it, then what does that 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:34.280 matter if you put it you know. Um. Yeah. But again, 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:35.600 I think it's all part of the game. I mean, 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:39.160 he's so invested in what he's doing, j T, which 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:41.559 is why he's so good at match play, um, and 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:44.679 so good in those moments that you can't be that 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:49.319 invested and that intense and not sort of have those 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:51.199 sort of moments, you know. So I just think it 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:52.640 all adds to the drama, and I think it's all 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:54.439 part of it. And I'm pretty confident there's no hard 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:55.880 feelings at the end of the game. I just think 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:58.480 that's kind of what's going on during the match, And 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:00.760 of course it's not a game. If it was a gimme, 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:04.520 it would have been given. Obviously it's missible. Uh So 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:07.360 you know this is a gipper talking. But I'm I'm 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:10.920 I'm totally I'm totally with you. Um, Jeff, There's there's 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:13.440 only one person on the ground who probably had more 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:17.680 experience at team events um than Fred, and it would 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:21.000 have been I think your former neighbor Bones Jim McKay. 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:24.640 What kind of presence do you see for McKay at 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:27.400 these team events. It's just astounding how many of them 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:29.600 he's been at, going back to their to the early 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:33.680 nineties would pay those two are I mean, he's Bones 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:35.320 must have been it. I don't know how many has 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:38.240 he been at he's been it. It would go back 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:41.120 to the ninth Yeah, I mean I could know at 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:45.680 least because it goes back to the ninety four Ryder 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:49.319 Cup or thirty. I mean, it's just he's been it 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:53.640 Cup year. That would have been Phils first. Um, so 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:57.280 close to thirty Yeah, incredible, Um, And what a sort 0:09:57.320 --> 0:09:59.679 of asset for j on his bag. Yeah, it was 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:01.520 great to have him their Bones. It's good to see 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:04.200 him back on the bag. I mean, I enjoyed listening 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:06.600 to his commentary. But he's back doing what he loves doing, 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:10.800 and um, it just adds to all the theater and 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:15.000 the drama of the whole thing, you know. It's um yeah, 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:17.600 he's seen a lot over over the years. He's seen 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:22.040 the U S win some when some amazing tournaments, amazing 0:10:22.080 --> 0:10:24.480 team events. He's seen him lose a few Ryder Cups 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:27.040 at least. He's been on both sides of sort of 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:31.439 the thing. Um, yeah, it's great, It's it's great to 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:33.040 have that sort of experience. I mean, it's like we 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:35.160 had Adam Scotty playing on our team and he's played 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:40.160 ten of these things now and he he commands such 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:44.080 a presence in the team room and um it's sort 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:47.280 of is as much a leader as anyone else in 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:50.480 the room. So it's bones I'm sure has the same 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:52.440 effect in the US room. And when he starts talking, 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:56.880 everybody listens, and there's no substitute for experience and those things. 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:02.559 It's interesting, you know, the US now one or it's 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:04.559 been nine in a row since they've they've lost a 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:09.439 President's Cup. And there was there was some talk ahead 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:12.360 of this event that, uh, maybe they need to blow 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:14.959 up the President's Cup and rethink it because it's too lopsighted. 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:18.439 I like Trevor Immelman's fire at the end. He clearly 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:21.280 took exception to that statement. And really, when you look 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:25.360 at the last four President's Cups, Royal Melbourne last time 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:28.800 round was fantastic two thousand fifteen, it was a nail biter, 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:31.640 was decided by one point, and even though this one 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:34.920 wasn't close, it was still memorable and there's a lot 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:37.920 of spirited play. So can we safely say that the 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:43.479 the demise of the President's Cup has been premature? Absolutely? 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:46.200 I mean if anybody, anybody who was there last week 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:50.280 would would be blown away by that sentiment. It was 0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:53.720 an It's an incredible tournament. It creates an unbelievable atmosphere. 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:59.000 I mean that that the final score is almost flattering 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:00.480 to the US a little bit. I mean, with an 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:02.160 hour and hour and a half to go, it was 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:05.360 if you looked at the leader board and everything you 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:08.080 stopped it there, we were going to be really really close. 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:12.240 I mean had about two thirty probably two thirty three o'clock, 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:14.800 it looked like we were a reasonable chance to win 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:16.000 the tournament, you know, I mean, so I think it 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:19.760 was closer to the end. Leader board suggests we obviously 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:22.720 were way behind, but we had a great Saturday. Sunday 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:25.800 was was going really well. See, we sort of started 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:27.560 off amazing with that win. And there was a lot 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:29.120 of black on the board when he won that, and 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:31.679 I sort of counted down and kept looking at the 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:34.000 score board and looking down my phone to see what 0:12:34.120 --> 0:12:35.760 was going on. And it's like, well, we could actually 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:39.960 win this thing. So and it seemed the US guys 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:42.320 you could tell that, hang on a minute, this thing's 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:45.720 on here a minute, we better start paying attention. Clearly 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:49.679 they were paying attention before, but um, yeah, it's it's 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:53.960 just an unbelievable event. I think all that talk beforehand, 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:57.439 it's just I don't know, it's just trying to get 0:12:57.840 --> 0:13:01.120 reactions or something, or selling newspapers or I mean, this 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:04.960 is your guys, world, but anyone who's ever I think, 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:07.719 and you guys are both being to President's Cups and 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:10.960 been around and felt the atmosphere, and it's an incredible 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:14.480 event and it's only going to grow. The international golf 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:17.720 is really really strong. I mean, I mean, we can't 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:19.800 forget that this US team that's being fielded at the 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:22.680 moment and these Wryter Cups and President's Cups. Is maybe 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:26.480 one of the best teams of all time. I mean, 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:32.280 it's unbelievable sort of combination of young enthusiasm who have 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:35.400 really brought into this sort of team event thing which 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:39.600 might have happened for a while. And you've got You've 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:41.880 got Patrick Cantle and Zana chaff who are sort of 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:44.680 best friends and an unbelievable pairing. You were justin Thomas 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:47.880 and George's spaces who have just incredible chemistry. We're developing 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:51.720 Scheffler and Burns, all top ten players in the world 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:55.199 at all. Unbelievable combinations and good friends. I mean, you 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:59.520 get three borderline unbeatable sort of pairs in your team 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:05.319 and it's a pretty hard team debate. So um, this 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:08.079 it's it's the US is in a really sort of 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:12.040 great period of their sort of tame golf. And I mean, 0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:14.040 it wasn't that long ago everyone was talking about what 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:15.840 hows the US ever gonna win e Rodic up again, 0:14:15.880 --> 0:14:17.240 you know, And now you look at it's like how 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:19.520 that is? And We're never gonna beat them? So that's 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:21.240 what's so great about them. You have sort of these 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:26.400 pikes and troughs of teams and sides, and it's it's 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:28.280 it's fun for the US right now, and it's sort 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:30.480 of it's a great challenge for the internationals and for 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:33.240 for Europe to sort of find a way to sort 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:37.520 of win one of those things. Job. I know there 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:40.280 you're different events, but there's a lot of similarities. The 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:42.360 right to cup in the prisons go of course, the 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:47.640 European Tour, well, let me rephrase, um, Europe decides for 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:50.960 itself who's going to be on its team. Uh, just 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:53.800 for the for the for the late listener, do you 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:56.160 think it makes sense for the Pug Tour to dictate 0:14:56.240 --> 0:14:58.800 to the international team who can and cannot be on 0:14:59.520 --> 0:15:06.880 it's team. Um. I don't think there's a bit of 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:09.760 there's a load in that question. There's a loaded question. Um, 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:18.080 just give it to a street Jeff, come on if 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:20.960 you if you are suggesting that should live player has 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:23.200 been have been allowed to play, I don't think they 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:30.120 should have been. No. Um. I think that the international 0:15:30.200 --> 0:15:32.480 team should have its own identity and control the way 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:36.720 the team is sort of picked. I think if the 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:38.600 PGR two has probably got a right to sort of 0:15:38.680 --> 0:15:40.960 decide the pool of players that you can pick from. 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:45.840 It's their event, um, and they set the rules for 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:47.680 the event, just like the U S g A sets 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:49.960 the rules for the U S Open and well GUSS 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:51.680 sets the rules for the Master's. I mean the presidents 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:53.360 come to PGR two event and they set the rules 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:56.360 for the tournament. So UM, but I definitely think that 0:15:57.080 --> 0:16:00.480 the international team should should and his growing sort of 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:05.640 once they control. But um an equal sort of say 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:09.720 in the matter. Um, we had some merch in the 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:11.800 tent last week. You saw some people that there was 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:15.160 sort of it wasn't half of the tent. Clearly, it's 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:16.640 never going to be in the US Ryder Cup, but 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:18.560 I think in the international ones it's going to be 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:21.800 close to half the ten or more our merchant. I 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:24.560 think gradually you'll see the shield and the international sort 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:26.440 of merchandise sort of popping up in the crowd. We 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:29.400 started seeing it last week and um, it's becoming a 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:32.680 real thing. And if you actually think about it, I 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:34.640 mean the US the US team is going to have 0:16:34.680 --> 0:16:36.880 three million supporters and the international team is going to 0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:42.760 have six billion. Um. Theoretically, Um, there's the supporter base 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:48.560 for the team is potentially massive, um and everybody, and 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:51.120 and that should be just taken as it is. The 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:56.320 US is clearly the strongest country engulf by a long stretch, 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:59.440 and it's fun to try to beat the best. Um. 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:05.000 So yeah, I think I think that the international team 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:09.080 should have sort of a lot of saying and the 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:11.480 team and how it operates and how we set up 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:16.200 our sort of awakened how it's all structured. Absolutely, because 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:20.800 I think it's only two golfs benefit that this tournament thrives, 0:17:20.920 --> 0:17:26.680 and um, the international team gets the great crack auditor 0:17:26.720 --> 0:17:30.200 that they deserve. I mean, the shield is really cool. 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:34.160 It looks like a superhero logo. I'm a fan without 0:17:34.200 --> 0:17:38.480 a doubt, And um, you know, obviously it was a subtext. 0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:43.760 This whole President's Cup was live golf in the background, 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:46.879 and the players who were there weren't there. But I 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:50.600 think in some ways the US team was helped by 0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:52.679 the way this is all shaken out. And clearly they 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:55.000 missed Ustin Johnson, who went five and oh at the 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:57.840 last president at the last Ryder Cup and is playing 0:17:58.000 --> 0:17:59.960 beautiful golf right now like he would have been an asked, 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:04.720 there's no question but to get rid of Bryson de Shambo, 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:08.000 Patrick Reedham, Brooks Kepka, who are are three of the 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:11.680 spikiest personalities in golf. I guess would be a polite 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:14.200 way of seeing it. Um. I mean, Jeff, did you 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:18.760 detect a different camaraderie and team spirit on this US 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:25.400 team than some previous incarnations? Are they certainly? Yeah, they're 0:18:25.480 --> 0:18:27.919 they're They're are They've got a great sort of thing 0:18:28.000 --> 0:18:31.600 going on the US team. M as I said, They've 0:18:31.640 --> 0:18:35.040 kind of got three sets of best friends who are 0:18:35.080 --> 0:18:38.280 all young. They're all top ten in the world. Um, 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:42.040 and there's I mean, I'm not even putting Colamara Kawa 0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:45.840 in there, who's obviously an unbelievable golfer. Um Cam Young 0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:48.960 who that's the first time I've actually seen him play 0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:50.840 up close a few times. I mean, the way that 0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:55.960 guy hits the ball, it's just unbelievable. Um. Yeah, they've 0:18:56.000 --> 0:18:58.919 got they've got some really good stuff. And Scotti chef well, 0:18:59.000 --> 0:19:00.760 scottis Cheffler unerstand as he was in the thing. He's 0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:04.240 got number one in the world. Um. Yeah, it's it's 0:19:04.320 --> 0:19:06.440 a they're they're in a good spot. I feel like 0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:11.080 there was that period. Um, I feel like Tiger and 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:14.880 Phil ended up sort of really having sort of great 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:18.800 sort of passion for the Ryder Cup. Um, but I 0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:21.879 don't know if they really sort of fully were embraced 0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:25.399 in it like say a Sergio or Monty was for Europe. 0:19:25.480 --> 0:19:27.920 You know. Um, but now I feel like they really 0:19:27.960 --> 0:19:31.800 do have seven Almost the whole team room just really 0:19:31.960 --> 0:19:34.240 enthusiastic about this team events. They seemed to really really 0:19:34.359 --> 0:19:39.439 enjoy the contest. Um look forward to it. I mean 0:19:39.560 --> 0:19:43.439 the yeah, I think they've got The US team has 0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:45.080 got a really has got a lot going for it 0:19:45.080 --> 0:19:47.719 at the moment. And it's the talent is so deep too, 0:19:47.880 --> 0:19:51.040 like you say, and you say, sparky personalities, but there's 0:19:51.080 --> 0:19:54.080 some fair talent that's that's not there as well. And 0:19:54.160 --> 0:19:56.240 to consider that the team is as good as it 0:19:56.400 --> 0:19:59.600 is without Brooks, kept care and Dustin Johnson and um, 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:01.399 it was only a few years a guy that Patrick 0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:02.920 Grade looked like he was going to be like the 0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:07.360 most unbeatable match player in these tame events we've ever seen. Um, 0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:11.520 and he's not there. Bronson's not there. It's Um, it's 0:20:11.560 --> 0:20:14.840 incredible how deep American golf is at the moment and 0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:20.679 how good it is. Yeah, and even and Tiger is Tiger, 0:20:20.800 --> 0:20:23.960 but you know his Ryder Cup record is is mediocre 0:20:24.040 --> 0:20:25.560 at best. You know it was he was such a 0:20:25.600 --> 0:20:28.040 big personality. I think he intimidated some of his teammates, 0:20:28.119 --> 0:20:33.400 and he was an introvert, and he created unusual dynamic 0:20:33.640 --> 0:20:36.480 in the locker room. And Phil loved these team events, 0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:38.200 but he sucked all the auction out of the room. 0:20:38.280 --> 0:20:40.440 So even losing the two the greatest players in the 0:20:40.600 --> 0:20:42.600 last well the greatest player of all time and one 0:20:42.640 --> 0:20:45.280 of the second best in the last thirty years, in 0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:47.000 some ways seems like a net positive to the U 0:20:47.119 --> 0:20:50.960 S team because you know, those guys were there home 0:20:51.119 --> 0:20:53.920 their personalities and some of the baggage that came with 0:20:54.000 --> 0:20:56.560 both of them. So yeah, it just felt like this 0:20:56.760 --> 0:21:00.680 US team was had a together in a sit that 0:21:01.200 --> 0:21:04.040 is rare and it is fun to watch. And of 0:21:04.119 --> 0:21:08.119 course that was also the case with the way this 0:21:08.320 --> 0:21:11.320 international team bonded. I mean, what did what did you do? 0:21:11.800 --> 0:21:13.520 And what did Trevor do? And and the other guys 0:21:13.560 --> 0:21:17.360 around the scenes help foster this atmosphere where these guys 0:21:17.440 --> 0:21:20.200 came together from different tours, different countries, different parts of 0:21:20.240 --> 0:21:24.280 the world, and yet they seemed they seemed so cohesive 0:21:24.400 --> 0:21:26.040 and tighten it, Like, what do we not see that 0:21:26.119 --> 0:21:31.520 they went into that there was a lot she didn't see. Yeah, 0:21:31.520 --> 0:21:33.280 I mean Trevor just did such a good joke. He 0:21:33.400 --> 0:21:38.639 just was so passionate and enthusiastic about sort of the 0:21:38.760 --> 0:21:43.800 role and this team. Um he'd been I mean the communication. 0:21:43.960 --> 0:21:46.200 I mean that they've been chat groups on the phone. 0:21:46.400 --> 0:21:51.200 We've been chatting and communicating since the day after Royal Melbourne, 0:21:51.320 --> 0:21:54.600 you know, three years ago. Um. And he put him 0:21:54.600 --> 0:21:57.360