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Speaker 1: another Fire Drill podcast. This is Alan Schipnuk joined by

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Speaker 1: Michael Bamberger in Philadelphia. Jeff Ogilvie in St. Andrew's, Scotland.

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Speaker 1: President's Cup, So let's just get to it. Jeff, First

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Speaker 1: full of pressure, and it's like kind of the ultimate

428
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Speaker 1: test of you as a golfer. And I think Trevor

429
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 1: just sort of created this sort of I don't know

430
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 1: if family like bond that just it was very early

431
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 1: in the week. I mean, I think early President's Cups

432
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Speaker 1: that I was involved in, and I feel like all

433
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,399
Speaker 1: the way back to the start, because we bring so

434
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Speaker 1: many sort of nationalities and cultures together in the same room.

435
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 1: Usually by Saturday or Sunday, we were like an incredible team,

436
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 1: but Trevor sort of got that achieved on Monday morning.

437
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 1: Um yeah, because of and it was the lead up.

438
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 1: It's not just the week. It's lots of team meetings,

439
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 1: lots of dinners throughout the year, sort of practice rounds

440
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 1: all the time with prospective teams. I mean sort of

441
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 1: the collective group or twenty five or so players who

442
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 1: could potentially make the team at sort of the start

443
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 1: of sort of all in the mix, you know, and

444
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,199
Speaker 1: it's like it's it's a big group from the beginning.

445
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 1: And um and as I said, like it said, it's

446
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 1: it's a collective. It's collectively every country can sort of

447
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,400
Speaker 1: unite in trying to beat sort of the best team

448
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 1: in the world. You know. It's just just an incredible job.

449
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 1: And it was just exciting. Like it's that they're so

450
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:36,120
Speaker 1: tiring those weeks, especially as the captain, um, because every

451
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,239
Speaker 1: night you're sort of debriefing and working out what you're

452
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 1: going to do tomorrow and sort of strategizing and sort

453
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 1: of going through all that stuff every night, so you're

454
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Speaker 1: not getting a lot of sleep. And you're having really

455
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,880
Speaker 1: long days. But it was just so it didn't take

456
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,680
Speaker 1: any like the alarm goes off, Bang, I'm getting up again.

457
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Speaker 1: I get to do this again. And it was excitement.

458
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Speaker 1: So it's just fantastic weeks and Trevor sort of he

459
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 1: steered the ship incredibly well and made us all want

460
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Speaker 1: to go along with him. Just it was sort of

461
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 1: an Trevor isn't that well known to the American golf

462
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: audience was sort of an introduction to him, but will

463
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Speaker 1: get a really much bigger one come in April when

464
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Speaker 1: he does his first Masters. Can you share with those

465
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Speaker 1: any insights you might have about what kind of broadcaster

466
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 1: Trouble will be at the Masters next year? Well, I

467
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 1: think anyone who watched some of his media conferences next

468
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 1: year will sort of see how classy and elegant he speaks,

469
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 1: and it's well thought out um and a lot of

470
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 1: passion there. I mean, he's been a golfer since. I

471
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Speaker 1: think he could stand up Trevor and passionate one. And

472
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Speaker 1: he loves the game. He's sort of a true he's

473
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Speaker 1: a true golf fan as well as being an unbelievable golfer.

474
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Speaker 1: And he's yeah, I think he's his announcing I think,

475
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Speaker 1: I mean, if anybody's been watching CBS in the last

476
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Speaker 1: few years sort of, I hope that they enjoy his

477
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 1: sort of analysis and the way he says the game.

478
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Speaker 1: And I think he'll be He will be really good.

479
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: He'll do his research, he'll work really hard. Um. He

480
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: wants to be great at anything he does. UM. And

481
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 1: he's very well spoken and and he thinks about thinks

482
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,360
Speaker 1: about what he's saying and quite eloquent. I think, um.

483
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 1: And I mean, I mean there was getting standing ovations

484
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 1: coming back into the team room after his media conferences

485
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 1: every day because if sort of the team was watching

486
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 1: it that the TV's in the team room and everyone

487
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 1: start of watching sort of how he's doing it the stuff.

488
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 1: And UM, I think he'll be great. I don't. I

489
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 1: think they've picked the perfect person. You know, you mentioned

490
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Speaker 1: Kim Young, and we touched on Tom Kim, but who

491
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,640
Speaker 1: else really impressed you, you know, seeing them up close

492
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: inside the ropes like you did. Um, San Burns I

493
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: saw up close for the first time, and wow, he's

494
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 1: really really, really good. Um. He handled the big moments

495
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 1: really well. He um hits it incredibly far, drives the

496
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: ball really really well. He looks like he's got a

497
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: really impressive future. Um, Scottie Scotti, Cheffley, it's at further

498
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: than I thought. Um, he was hitting the miles. Um

499
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: cam Davis was great. I mean the way he stood

500
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 1: up on Saturday afternoon, him and Scotty played one of

501
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: the highest level sort of best balls I've ever seen,

502
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,679
Speaker 1: especially coming down the stretch. It was amazing. I mean

503
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: cam Davis finished eagle Bertie Bertie for them to win,

504
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 1: for them to win that match, and Scottie and was

505
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: making Bertie Bertie Bertie as well on those last three holes.

506
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 1: I mean it was just and as I said, quaital

507
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: hollow is, it was not set up easy. Those creens

508
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: were rolling really really fast and the pins weren't easy.

509
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: And Um, cam Davis was impressively. Here's the ball really well,

510
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: said Cheffler, sort of impressed me. I mean, tom Kin

511
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: was amazing. Seawork Kim was just outrage It was just outrageous.

512
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: I mean he's that. I mean, I guess if you

513
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: don't really really, if you haven't been inside the ropes

514
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: and seaward him. I played with him, um or sort

515
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 1: of watched him play up close. She's probably like, way,

516
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: I see where Kim's beating Justin Thomas. I don't get

517
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 1: how that happens. But like anybody who's ever played, we

518
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: see who knows how is how high his ceiling is

519
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 1: as society as anybody's. Um, and he just loves the

520
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: big moments. He's just incredible. I followed him around quite

521
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: a few holes two or three of his matches that

522
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 1: living in National and seventeen, and like, I saw something

523
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: pretty special in the big moments and he uh, he

524
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: did it again. He was incredible to look, they all

525
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 1: played so well. I mean, look, golf, I haven't really

526
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: been inside the ropes that much in the last couple

527
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: of years, but the level of golf is going up

528
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: so fast. At that level, Um, it's fun to watch.

529
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: She really is. I mean the golf it used to

530
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: be there was three or four guys. I mean for

531
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: someone like me, I guess who plays and maybe doesn't

532
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: want to acknowledge other people's skill because that sort of

533
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: helps my mental game. I I used to be impressed

534
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 1: by two or three people in the range. Maybe you know, like, wow,

535
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: he's gonna be able to beat that guy's good. But

536
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: everyone else, Yeah, he's kind of he's all right, but

537
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: it's just unbelievable how good all of these guys are.

538
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 1: Now the level is so high. They all swing it

539
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: great if you stand behind both teams on the range.

540
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 1: It's just just an absolute clinic about how these guys

541
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: um play the game and they make so many parts.

542
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: Jordan always boys me away with how many parts he makes. Um. Yeah,

543
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: the level of the level of golf at the top

544
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: level is is improving, maybe at the fastest rate that

545
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: has for a long time, it feels like to me anyway.

546
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: I mean, the difference between the sort of there used

547
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: to be three or four, as I said, top top

548
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: two or three golfers in the world, was so much

549
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: better than twenty years ago, you know. I mean, look

550
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,479
Speaker 1: at the gap between Tiger and second, and then look

551
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: at the difference between Early and Phil and the next

552
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: guy sort of at the time, you know, but now

553
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: t in the world, they all to play just outrageously

554
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: impressive golf. Um even further down. Um, yeah, the level

555
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: is really really high. It's fun to watch. It's it's

556
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: a thought to the whole people should go, people should

557
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: go walk along the roads for some of these guys

558
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: because it's just incredible what these guys are doing at

559
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: the moment. Trip I was on the I was on

560
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: the phone earlier today with David's love, and he said,

561
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: you can't have a team room like the one we

562
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: had and not have Phil's name come up, not have

563
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: Dustin Johnson's then come up. Uh he didn't say Patrick reed,

564
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 1: but you know maybe Patrick reed as well. Um, did

565
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: you find something similar in your team room in terms

566
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: of people who weren't there? You know, it didn't come

567
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:46,479
Speaker 1: up at all. I mean, going there, I thought, well,

568
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: maybe there'll be a bit and and the press tent

569
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: tried to get it out of it and get it

570
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: out of Trevor and um, but no, I didn't. It

571
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: didn't come up. Trevor was really really good about it.

572
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: Just that just weren't the unmentionable is It just didn't

573
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: come up. Um. He created such a great atmosphere of

574
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: we are so happy you guys are all here. What

575
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: a great opportunity this is for this international team to

576
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: sort of, um, when a President's Cup in America that,

577
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: like I'm being genuinely honest, it just didn't. It just

578
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: wasn't even a factor in the team rooms. And I'd

579
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: credit I'd credit Trevor for that because it could very

580
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: well easily have been, especially when we were down eight too,

581
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,719
Speaker 1: and as I said, the questions were coming, the questions

582
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: were coming, and when all the the players were sitting

583
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: up in their press conference, of questions came and the

584
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: the players just did an unbelievable job at saying no, no, no,

585
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: we're the ones who were here, We're going to win

586
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: this tournament. Next question. You know, it really wasn't talked about,

587
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: and it might have been thought about by others, but

588
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: to me, it didn't feel like it was a factor

589
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: at all. Although Trevor did have the sickest burn of

590
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: the whole week on Twitter. I don't know if you

591
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: you must have seen it where Greg Norman put out

592
00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: this very faux sincere tweets a picture of an old

593
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: President's cup and I wish the boy is good luck

594
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: and Trevor's response in our Cops is just l O L.

595
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: I mean, that was that was pretty epic. How did

596
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: that go down in the team room? Yeah, that was

597
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: pretty well received. It's uh, yeah, that was that was

598
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: pretty funny. And I guess a lot of these Trevor

599
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: has sort of been dealing with this the whole time,

600
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: right because he's sort of he's been going through the

601
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: roller coaster of not knowing who who he's going to pick,

602
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: and all this stuff sort of happened. He's had three

603
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: years to sort of playing this cup out, and I'm

604
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: sure he had a few a few guys more than

605
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: penciled in to his lineup, you know, and um, he

606
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: had the sort of the stress and anxiety going along

607
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: about who's going to be coming and who's not, and

608
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: so he's been sort of living this story for a

609
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: while and then for stuff like that to come along,

610
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: It's just he handled it with such class. I mean,

611
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: I just think it's It's might sound from the outside

612
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: like it wasn't classy, but I think that was. It

613
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: was just the perfect response because it was just a

614
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: nonsense tweet really from egg Um just more about it's

615
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: all about Greg, you know. Um, yeah, it was funny.

616
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: The team loved it. It was it was brilliant. Oh no, yeah,

617
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: I thought it was classy and its understatement. But we

618
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: know you haven't slept in a long time, Jeff, what

619
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: We're gonna let you go here, but you have to

620
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: tell us one good story from the victory party. I

621
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: think I saw son Jay maybe doing Gangham style and

622
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: impressive fashion for a big man. It's got pretty good,

623
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: pretty quick feet. But um, what other funny things happened

624
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: Sunday night in the wee hours. Lots of funny things

625
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: happened in the way I was not many of them

626
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: are gonna not any of them are going to make

627
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: it on this podcast. Son Jay was a very impressive

628
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: Gangham style dancer. I mean it was. Look, it was

629
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: the best spirited party. It was the best. It was

630
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: one of the best after parties of these things we've

631
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: ever had. Quite quite often, it can be a bit

632
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: flat if you've lost the tournament. Um, but no, it was.

633
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: It was so I don't know, it was so joyful.

634
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: For whatever reason, everyone was just so excited about how

635
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: well the week had gone. Majority of the US team

636
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: came into our room because it was more fun um

637
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: at last, after a few hours sort of ours was

638
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 1: just keeping on going. You know, ours just kept getting

639
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Speaker 1: bigger and bigger and bigger, and to their correcit to

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Speaker 1: JT and Jordans were there till the end and it

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Speaker 1: was it was brilliant and they were open arms and

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Speaker 1: every time they'd come in and Trevor would congratulate Jordan's

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Speaker 1: all came in and it just it was this collective,

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Speaker 1: joint sort of celebration. It was brilliant. It was a

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Speaker 1: really good time. It went really really late. Most of

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Speaker 1: us were for fulfilling fairly worse for wear on Monday morning. Um,

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Speaker 1: but it was, yeah, it was, it was. It was

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Speaker 1: a good nod. It was good times. Hello that Michael,

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Speaker 1: any last questions before we let Jeff go. No, that

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Speaker 1: was perfect. Now, that was that was a great all right, Well,

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Speaker 1: thank you for taking time to reflect on a pretty

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Speaker 1: epic week. Jeff. We wish you luck at the Dunhill.

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Speaker 1: If you know, what's your favorite golf course in the world,

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Speaker 1: so we'll all be watching you. Um, there's been another

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Speaker 1: Fire Drill podcast. Thank you as always for listening. For

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Speaker 1: Michael Bamberger. This is Alan Chipnuk. Jeff oogilvie. Uh. We'll

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Speaker 1: do it again soon, hope. Bye. Big Pleadin made a

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Speaker 1: fortune with my ship game. I ran the table and

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Speaker 1: a cannon, the ball and now I can't shake this,

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Speaker 1: losing the stream. Every road I take is a dead

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Speaker 1: end stream. I got thoughts in my head, can't get

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Speaker 1: him out, trying not to think what I'm thinking about.

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