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Speaker 1: and welcome to Films to be Married With. It is
Speaker 1: me of Brett Goldstein, and I am joined today by
Speaker 1: an actor, a radio actor, a stage actor, a TV actor,
Speaker 1: a film actor, a legend and assistant to the doctor,
Speaker 1: a hero, a leader, the future of humanity, and the
Speaker 1: greatest person on the screen at this moment. Please welcome
Speaker 1: to the show. It's the brilliant prow Bucket.
Speaker 3: Hey, what's an intro? The great person on the screen
Speaker 3: at the moment apart from yourself.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, including myself. Well, it is a pleasure
Speaker 1: to have you. Thank you for doing this. How are you.
Speaker 3: I'm very well. Yeah, it is a pleasure to be here.
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. Yeah, I'm good.
Speaker 1: No, those of you can't see peerl hair looks fucking wicked.
Speaker 1: Thanks mate worth having a look at the video just
Speaker 1: to see I am a good hair lips. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: and this is a new thing. Yeah, I just got
Speaker 1: it on the other day. Actually, yeah, I just thought,
Speaker 1: why not let's just have a bit of fun. No,
Speaker 1: just enjoy, let's enjoy our lives for good life.
Speaker 3: You know. Also, it's meant to be summer, so I
Speaker 3: was like, oh, I get some brain bursts the end
Speaker 3: of Pride month. Yes, come on then, and it's literally
Speaker 3: pussy down.
Speaker 1: So I don't think that's I don't think it's the
Speaker 1: fault of your hair. I'm not blaming that. There's been
Speaker 1: rumors that that is why I've stood by you. Now, well,
Speaker 1: so I met you. For those who don't know, we
Speaker 1: did a radio sitcom pilot for the pin we did.
Speaker 1: That's where I met you, and you had just finished
Speaker 1: doing Doctor Who. I believe, yeah is what I want
Speaker 1: to know. I don't need to know about your experience
Speaker 1: with Doctor Who. What I'm interested in because to go
Speaker 1: from doing stage shows to suddenly being in Doctor Who,
Speaker 1: which makes you pretty famous whether you like it or not.
Speaker 1: Was that's a scary thing? Was it a great thing?
Speaker 1: How did you deal with all that suddenness of it?
Speaker 3: It was a madness, to be honest. Yeah, literally just
Speaker 3: sort of going from like one day just kind of
Speaker 3: bopping about doing my job, thinking oh, yeah, I'm on
Speaker 3: the West End stage. This is amazing. You know, this
Speaker 3: is probably the most exciting job I'm ever going to have,
Speaker 3: you know, just happily walking around you know, central London,
Speaker 3: just enjoying life in between shows and that kind of thing,
Speaker 3: being as ridiculous as I wanted to be, without anyone
Speaker 3: looking at me. Just suddenly being like, oh, there's loads
Speaker 3: of people outside stage door every time I finish the show,
Speaker 3: whenever I go down the street. It was quite mad. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it did feel like, wow, this is a lot. And
Speaker 3: also I hadn't even started filming yet, so I was
Speaker 3: a bit like I don't even really know. They're like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, so watch your characters, like tell me this,
Speaker 3: tell me this. I don't have anything to say, like
Speaker 3: a trailer. I was like, I was there for about
Speaker 3: a day, which was mental, but also it was all
Speaker 3: such a blur because I was so nervous, and then
Speaker 3: I couldn't tell anyone about it, so I kind of
Speaker 3: like minimized the experience of filming that trailer secret trailer
Speaker 3: because it was so intense and like so crazy. I
Speaker 3: kind of like I can't really remember any of it
Speaker 3: apart from how mad it was. So I was literally
Speaker 3: just there like I honestly have nothing to offer you,
Speaker 3: and they're still like, oh no, but it's really really exciting,
Speaker 3: so exciting, and I mean it was amazing, you know,
Speaker 3: it's like an amazing family to be part of. Like
Speaker 3: the fans are like so dedicated, which is amazing. But
Speaker 3: it was just quite weird, Like you know, I just
Speaker 3: totally didn't expect that to happen. Like I was sitting
Speaker 3: at my friends. My friend was like helping out in
Speaker 3: a shop and used to work in a shop in
Speaker 3: Brixton Village, and yeah, I was just sitting in for
Speaker 3: her while she was like having I think she was
Speaker 3: just going to the loo or something, and she was like,
Speaker 3: I just mind just staying in here. I'm just you know,
Speaker 3: someone popped in and was like really really really excited
Speaker 3: and it was like this French guy. I was just like,
Speaker 3: I was like, this is so out of the ordinary.
Speaker 3: I think I've just been to the gym or something.
Speaker 3: So I was like, stay there, like a bit sweaty.
Speaker 3: I was like, you really really don't like me. I
Speaker 3: mean I look like shit, but okay, right, So yeah,
Speaker 3: basically that was mad. And obviously it has calmed down
Speaker 3: a little bit now or I've got a bit more
Speaker 3: used to it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you just get used to it? How does
Speaker 1: it work? It just seems a lot.
Speaker 3: I don't really know, to be honest. It does still
Speaker 3: surprise me sometimes when people like stare at me when
Speaker 3: I'm walking, unless I have braids like this, in which
Speaker 3: case I'm like, obviously you can look because I look.
Speaker 3: But yeah, sometimes I think, especially like when I go
Speaker 3: to new places and like, you know, sometimes like as
Speaker 3: a black woman, You're like, are you staring at me?
Speaker 3: I'm black and you don't want me to be here?
Speaker 4: It's oh, no, you recognize, Okay, cool, that's fine, you know,
Speaker 4: as long as it's like but yeah, it can be
Speaker 4: sometimes it's still quite disconcerting when people like someone did
Speaker 4: it to me yesterday that it hasn't.
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess I just haven't been well, no
Speaker 3: one's been around.
Speaker 1: In ages.
Speaker 3: So I was like, oh, I was just sitting down
Speaker 3: after I got my vaccination, and I definitely I was
Speaker 3: like you fully, I can see, I can see what
Speaker 3: you're doing. I'm not. And then like Nate turned around
Speaker 3: really like obviously was like, they don't be really, I
Speaker 3: don't think. Maybe they weren't huge fans. They didn't come
Speaker 3: up to me and ask me for anything. But I'm
Speaker 3: still like, sometimes that's a bit weird as well. So
Speaker 3: I was like, cool, I was just I'm just sitting
Speaker 3: here quite but looking at me every now. I guess
Speaker 3: I don't really know how to fa Yeah.
Speaker 1: The worst is when someone says something like I saw
Speaker 1: you in that show and you go okay, and then
Speaker 1: they don't say anything and you're like, yeah, so I
Speaker 1: don't even know if you enjoyed that show.
Speaker 3: You're literally just like me in the show.
Speaker 1: Just a statement of fact, all you in that show?
Speaker 3: Can you even remember what it was? Oh, you're the
Speaker 3: actress from that show? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Could be, could be, I could be someone else, really
Speaker 1: depends if you like that particular show we're talking about
Speaker 1: before before I concur on this. You've been you've just
Speaker 1: been filming. Can you talk about do you want to
Speaker 1: tell us anything? Or is it secrets?
Speaker 3: I can tell why not? I mean sure, Yeah, just
Speaker 3: been filming an IT TV detective drama.
Speaker 1: Are you the Detective's happened?
Speaker 3: I am a I am one of one of a
Speaker 3: couple of detectives.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Ben Aldridge love Ben Aldridge and yeah, we just literally
Speaker 3: just came off it like two weeks ago. I think
Speaker 3: it's called The Long Hall. It's very much kind of
Speaker 3: exploring the character that Ben plays his life as a
Speaker 3: gay man who's been sort of shunned from his community.
Speaker 3: Look which are like the present community, which is a
Speaker 3: sector of the Christian Church that are quite extreme, and
Speaker 3: sort of him having sort of been ostracized from them
Speaker 3: and left and then coming back, you know, and then
Speaker 3: sort of moving back to his hometown and then having
Speaker 3: this murder that kind of it like encourages, well, doesn't
Speaker 3: encourages him, kind of forces him to kind of go
Speaker 3: back to his community and kind of confront some truths
Speaker 3: and within that I might play ds generality Nice, who
Speaker 3: was also moved to Devon to North Devon, went to
Speaker 3: where it's set because she's sort of looking for a
Speaker 3: better life for her and her kids. So there's a
Speaker 3: little bit of soul searching here and there, and there's
Speaker 3: quite a lot of parallels drawn between their own lives
Speaker 3: and kind of they use a lot of their own
Speaker 3: kind of experiences to investigate the investigation, investigate, investigate, just
Speaker 3: stopped to investigate, shouldn't I well.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what that She sounds fucking great. You've
Speaker 1: really really said very well, and I would like to
Speaker 1: see that. May I ask this? Did you film in Devor?
Speaker 3: We filmed in Bristol and Endeavor. Yeah, so we were
Speaker 3: in Bristol for seven weeks and then went down to
Speaker 3: Devon for three weeks, which was really nice. Actually, I
Speaker 3: mean I genuinely had a lovely time filming it. It
Speaker 3: was an amazing and just had loads of jokes, you know,
Speaker 3: just you know when you just have one of them lovely,
Speaker 3: lovely jobs that you're like, this doesn't actually feel like work,
Speaker 3: even though obviously when it's the work itself it was
Speaker 3: quite serious because you know, obviously it's a serious subject matter,
Speaker 3: but around it, you know, we just had a lovely time.
Speaker 3: Like the director was amazing and just let us, you know,
Speaker 3: sort of have a really nice time playing around with
Speaker 3: it and made us feel really comfortable and really open.
Speaker 1: Is your experience you've done a lot more, a lot
Speaker 1: more hardcore drama than myself. Is your experience making dramas
Speaker 1: that between takes you can have a laugh. It's a
Speaker 1: lot of fun. Or is it usually heavy heavy or
Speaker 1: the type?
Speaker 3: I don't know. If I have done a lot more
Speaker 3: serious drama, I'm not sure. I think I think it
Speaker 3: very much depends show to show, regardless of what the
Speaker 3: content is. I mean, I didn't have to say of
Speaker 3: Friday night dinner and.
Speaker 1: That's heavy, heavy drama, heavy, and.
Speaker 3: That's really serious drama. And actually no one spoke to
Speaker 3: each other, no exactly what you know what I mean like,
Speaker 3: And I kind of thought, you know, maybe that was
Speaker 3: the case, because I think that's something that people say
Speaker 3: quite a lot, isn't it. They're like, oh, you know,
Speaker 3: within when it's a comedy, there's kind of no room
Speaker 3: for comedy behind the scenes because everyone's you know, trying
Speaker 3: to make their comedy work and that. But we had
Speaker 3: a lovely time and you know, we're like playing boggle
Speaker 3: upstairs in the green room and having jokes and.
Speaker 1: You know, as your Buggle Games.
Speaker 3: Not as strong as all of theirs.
Speaker 1: Right, this is some real fucking behind the scenes ship
Speaker 1: going down here. That's real, Like that's going to.
Speaker 3: Be Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1: I got a real exclusive here about the Friday night
Speaker 1: did at Buggle Games. Yeah, I am an idiot. I've
Speaker 1: forgotten to tell you something.
Speaker 3: Okay, ah, had.
Speaker 1: Well, I've forgotten. I should have actually really told you.
Speaker 1: Maybe I should have texted it to you before we
Speaker 1: started or something, because I feel like we're recording that.
Speaker 1: It's it's awkward that I've left it this late. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna have to say it, and I hope it's okay.
Speaker 3: But we'll go for it and i'll see how see
Speaker 3: how I respond.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no pressure on how you respond. I'll just
Speaker 1: give you. I just say it and then you've been
Speaker 1: deal with. However, you you've died, you don't it, okay? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3: All right, that's the man.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you finished that filming. I hope they're not
Speaker 1: expecting any pickups alreadiogy, wow.
Speaker 3: Fingers crossed, because you know if they do, then they
Speaker 3: will have to get I don't know some kind of double.
Speaker 1: How did you die?
Speaker 3: Ah? It was. I think it's quite sad. Actually you
Speaker 3: probably don't know this about me, but I've been allergic
Speaker 3: to shellfish since I was twenty one, which is it
Speaker 3: was only about two minutes ago. Anyway, don't wory about it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but it's it's it's been a real plight of my existence.
Speaker 3: I love shellfish, or I did before.
Speaker 1: Yes, please tell me what happened between twenty and twenty one.
Speaker 1: If you're eating shelvishness, couldn't eat.
Speaker 3: Just one day. It was like, this is not good,
Speaker 3: bad time. It's very serious allergic reaction, which has progressed
Speaker 3: because I was like, oh, maybe it's just prawn's nah,
Speaker 3: tried to eat some muscles, tried to eat. If you
Speaker 3: have the bits and bobs, it's all of that. It's
Speaker 3: all of it. So yeah, I just basically reached the
Speaker 3: end of my tether and was like, do you know what.
Speaker 3: I've only had lobster once. It was delicious. I just
Speaker 3: don't think. I don't think it's going to be that
Speaker 3: bad for me. So I smashed loads of lobster and
Speaker 3: if I can kill me.
Speaker 1: Like an instant.
Speaker 3: It happened slow it was slow and painful.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah in a restaurant.
Speaker 3: Yeah, kind of, you know, all the air was sort
Speaker 3: of sucked out of me. But I was kind of
Speaker 3: puffy but also dehydrated, so it's sort of yeah.
Speaker 1: Who are you with?
Speaker 3: I was with my mum, christ Yeah, I know, I know.
Speaker 3: But she was sitting there going, told you so, shouldn't
Speaker 3: beating a lobster.
Speaker 1: So she had some pleasure, at least the satisfaction of
Speaker 1: I told you so, maybe a little bit.
Speaker 3: I don't know how she feels about it now, but
Speaker 3: I would a shout, but I can't.
Speaker 1: What was it You looked like you were about to say,
Speaker 1: and I'm really sorry. I realized I cut you off.
Speaker 3: It's all right. I just looked a bit like, you know,
Speaker 3: I don't know if you've ever used those emojis that
Speaker 3: like kind of like octopuses with expressions. Yeah, they also
Speaker 3: look a bit like a wrinkled bulls sack. Yes, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's kind of what I looked like. A bit like that,
Speaker 3: a little bit in places, you know, and a little
Speaker 3: bit more shriveled in other places. But yeah, it was
Speaker 3: It's not pretty. It's not It wasn't an open casket.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: Wow, wow, Well, I'm so sorry. That's really one of
Speaker 1: the worst ways to go we've had. Do you do
Speaker 1: you worry about Do you worry about death?
Speaker 3: I don't. Necessarily I don't worry about my own death.
Speaker 3: I don't think. Well, I mean, you know, apart from
Speaker 3: this whole year that we've just had where death seemed
Speaker 3: to be around the call for everyone, that was quite scary.
Speaker 3: But again, I think that wasn't so much worrying about me.
Speaker 3: That was more worrying about transmitting the virus to someone
Speaker 3: else that would then die, you know, like more worried
Speaker 3: about sort of you know, my mum and other people
Speaker 3: just you know, other older, more vulnerable people and that
Speaker 3: kind of thing. Yeah, but I don't, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't think I necessarily worry about the fact that
Speaker 3: I'm going to die.
Speaker 1: What do you think happens when you die?
Speaker 3: I don't know. I just need to die in it.
Speaker 1: Just that just blackout, I think.
Speaker 3: So, I mean, i'd like to think that there is
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not a religious person, but I do
Speaker 3: believe in like sort of like karma and the kind
Speaker 3: of you know, being nice to people and then nice
Speaker 3: things will come back to you. But I don't necessarily
Speaker 3: think that that's a way to live your life and
Speaker 3: then you get the reward at death. I feel like
Speaker 3: that's a way to live your.
Speaker 1: Life instead of reincarnation. You think it all happens within
Speaker 1: the one life. Good people are good to you, you
Speaker 1: get the rewards as it were, that Heaven promises you
Speaker 1: get in your life.
Speaker 3: I think so, yeah, And I mean I do. I
Speaker 3: don't know. I do feel like I've had like my
Speaker 3: godmother was very very close to me, and she died
Speaker 3: when I was nineteen, I think, yeah, probably in my
Speaker 3: second year of UNI. And I still talk to her. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I still sometimes, you know, have conversations, and I still
Speaker 3: feel her around, not in like a weird ghostly way,
Speaker 3: but in a nice way in that, you know, I
Speaker 3: feel like there's a lot of things that she supported
Speaker 3: me doing, and you know, she was just really really
Speaker 3: supportive forughout my whole journey and what my whole life.
Speaker 3: Really she was like another parent to me. So I
Speaker 3: don't know if that's just me manifesting that because I
Speaker 3: miss her, you know, or if that is because I
Speaker 3: believe that she is somewhere having nice time, but I
Speaker 3: don't know. I do feel like when certain things happen,
Speaker 3: I do feel like she is there, which is nice,
Speaker 3: but maybe that should because I wanted to be there.
Speaker 3: I don't know, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I do know exactly what you mean, and I really
Speaker 1: love it. And I often wonder about that, and I
Speaker 1: almost think there's a I can't get my head around
Speaker 1: the idea of nothing. There's nothing, it's nothing in black
Speaker 1: nothing blackapse.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think partly the reason I've read things
Speaker 1: where it's like, oh, that's just the sort of arrogance
Speaker 1: of humans that we go but we must be so important,
Speaker 1: there must be more. But I think it's more. It's
Speaker 1: partly more to do with like a to do with energy.
Speaker 1: That energy doesn't end, so if you're the energy of
Speaker 1: you goes, it goes somewhere else. But also the memory
Speaker 1: of people, just the sheer memory of people is in
Speaker 1: some way them living on. Like, yeah, you're talking about
Speaker 1: your if you believe in there's nothing after it, but
Speaker 1: you still talk to your godmother, Like that's interesting in
Speaker 1: terms of either she's literally a presence there or I
Speaker 1: don't know, Yeah, you've manifested something that yes, her. I
Speaker 1: don't know, but it's fascinating. I love it.
Speaker 3: But then also I think that, like, you know, kind
Speaker 3: of the magic of it is and the fascination that
Speaker 3: the human race has death is that we don't know.
Speaker 3: It's completely known and we don't you know, And it
Speaker 3: is about belief and what we believe and essentially what
Speaker 3: that belief makes us do, and how that translates into
Speaker 3: our behavior and how that translates into our day to
Speaker 3: day existence, like whether or not I believe that she
Speaker 3: is somewhere, or whether or not I believe that there
Speaker 3: isn't anything. It's like I can't quite amalgamate the two feelings,
Speaker 3: but I think both of them help me potentially. I
Speaker 3: don't know. I think it's and I think it's sort
Speaker 3: of that kind of fascination, and I think also, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm very much like I'm not like no, I totally
Speaker 3: disagree with all religions and you know, all people thinking that.
Speaker 3: I think, if you know, if it helps you to believe,
Speaker 3: if it helps you to be a better person to
Speaker 3: everyone in reality, then yeah, I mean believe in heaven
Speaker 3: and hell and you know, but if it, you know,
Speaker 3: if it makes you tell me that I'm going to
Speaker 3: be I'm going to go to hell. You know things
Speaker 3: that you deem terrible. Then I think that's just personal
Speaker 3: judgment essentially.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's where where we need a Channel
Speaker 1: five documentary when when religions go bad. Yes, well I've
Speaker 1: got good news for you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, go on them.
Speaker 1: There is a heaven. It's fucking great, and you get in.
Speaker 1: You are what you got right.
Speaker 3: Played at the time because I'd happily be wearing these.
Speaker 1: You're wearing the braids forever. The thing is they're locked
Speaker 1: in forever. Now you wear them every day in heaven.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, okay, And.
Speaker 1: Heaven's got your favorite things in it. What's your favorite thing?
Speaker 3: Like, I mean soup dumplings.
Speaker 1: Soup dumplings, right, everything is made from soup dumplings.
Speaker 3: It's messy, It's gonna get messy everywhere.
Speaker 1: Soup dumplings, perfect, temperton, nothing's burning you. Chairs are made
Speaker 1: of soup dumpling. Can eat as you see everything. It's
Speaker 1: a soup dumpling heaven. And in this heaven, everyone's very
Speaker 1: excited to see you. But they want to talk about
Speaker 1: your life through the film, and the the first thing
Speaker 1: they want to know is what's the first film you
Speaker 1: remember seeing?
Speaker 3: Pearl MACKI I think the first film that I remember
Speaker 3: seeing is Meet Me in Saint Louis.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's you know what, that's never come up.
Speaker 1: So really, twenty points for you, Thank you very much.
Speaker 3: Didn't know this was a point scoring exercise, but I'm
Speaker 3: very glad it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very much a competition. You didn't know you'd
Speaker 1: entered a bit so far cracking start.
Speaker 3: I love a competition. Let's go. Yeah, I think that,
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't. I mean I watched a couple
Speaker 3: of early films out quite early on in my life.
Speaker 3: I remember having quite distinct memories of like my mum
Speaker 3: platting my hair on a Sunday night after she'd washed
Speaker 3: it before school, probably like when I was about five
Speaker 3: or six. But as we used to do this, you know,
Speaker 3: every week for so much of my life until I
Speaker 3: decided that I wanted to try and do my hand
Speaker 3: as help. So you know, there's a strong like, you know,
Speaker 3: twelve thirteen years of that kind of happening. But when
Speaker 3: I was younger, there were a couple of films that
Speaker 3: were on rotation. But I think Meet Me and say
Speaker 3: Louis is the one I really remember. It really really
Speaker 3: stood out for me. It's one of I mean, it's
Speaker 3: one of my favorite films as well, probably because it
Speaker 3: was one of the earliest.
Speaker 1: So would it would it? Would it have been specifically
Speaker 1: your mum put it on or it was just on
Speaker 1: while you were you were set there together.
Speaker 3: I think my no, my mom put it on. Definitely,
Speaker 3: we had a video that she'd I think recorded off
Speaker 3: the TV. We used to do loads that. I think
Speaker 3: she recorded it off the TV and would put it on,
Speaker 3: probably because I think she'd probably ask. I don't think
Speaker 3: we had many videos that were she loves films, But
Speaker 3: I don't know if they know if we had a
Speaker 3: huge amount of like kids, but there was a couple
Speaker 3: that I loved and I actually would be like, which,
Speaker 3: what what do you want to watch? And I'd be like,
Speaker 3: I will watch Met Me in Saint Louis, and I
Speaker 3: just I just love it. I mean, I think just
Speaker 3: like the young the young girl in it. I think
Speaker 3: it's Margaret O'Brien plays two t It's just brilliant. It's
Speaker 3: just so it's so not what I would have thought
Speaker 3: early early twentieth and Tree family in Saint Louis in
Speaker 3: America would be like, and it's a really at the
Speaker 3: beginning in the scene where at the beginning when she's
Speaker 3: they're making a catch up and saying that it's too
Speaker 3: sweet and too sour, and it's like, it's hilarious. It
Speaker 3: just it feels like there's a lot of life in it.
Speaker 3: I mean, and then like you meet Judy Garland, who
Speaker 3: is just I absolutely love Judy Island, like I love
Speaker 3: her a lot. I think I just think she's just magical.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think there's a real like there's just
Speaker 3: an amazing quality that really draws you in. I mean
Speaker 3: it's probably vulnerability and all of the ship that she
Speaker 3: was going through while she made all of these amazing films,
Speaker 3: and the horrible pressure and all the drugs and all
Speaker 3: of that.
Speaker 1: Do you remember thinking I want to do that. I
Speaker 1: want to be a right, right, because you're also dancer? Right.
Speaker 3: I'm not a dancer. No, I says that on my Wikipedia.
Speaker 1: Page, but.
Speaker 3: One of my friends finds that possibly the funniest thing
Speaker 3: about me. I mean, I could dance, but I'm not
Speaker 3: a But I am a singer. And yeah, I remember
Speaker 3: watching Judy Garland seeing the trolley song and be like,
Speaker 3: what the fuck is that that is? I want to
Speaker 3: do that. I think it was just like it's just
Speaker 3: a feeling it gave me. It just made me feel
Speaker 3: like really like really happy, but really engaged. And she's
Speaker 3: like she's telling the story through this song and it's
Speaker 3: sort of it's I mean, it's completely staged, but it
Speaker 3: feels kind of like it's not, which is great. It
Speaker 3: feels sort of a bit gossipy and a bit amazing
Speaker 3: and just quite fizzy and a bit magical. And then
Speaker 3: at the end when he gets on the trolley and
Speaker 3: she sees him and she's like, oh my god, Oh
Speaker 3: my god. I was like, I remember, like I was
Speaker 3: like that feeling. I was like, I'm so with you
Speaker 3: on your journey as a five year old, even though
Speaker 3: I totally don't understand really any of those feelings. I
Speaker 3: was like, you've managed to communicate this to me, and
Speaker 3: I think that is incredible, And you made me feel
Speaker 3: happy and sad and a bit scared for you, but
Speaker 3: also really excited through just this one song. And then
Speaker 3: you know, subsequently through the rest of the film and stuff,
Speaker 3: and I was like, I want to make people feel
Speaker 3: that like, you've made me feel things. I want to
Speaker 3: make people feel things. I think that's really.
Speaker 1: Cool, absolutely incredible answer, Thanks very much.
Speaker 3: Gets worse from here.
Speaker 1: Okay, good, that is some That is some high bar
Speaker 1: you're saying. What about crying? What's the film that made
Speaker 1: you cry the most? Do you crazily?
Speaker 3: I do crazily at a film? Yeah, yeah, in life.
Speaker 1: Not in life.
Speaker 3: No. I didn't used to cry very easily in life.
Speaker 3: But I think I'm getting a bit soft as i'm
Speaker 3: getting older because I do. Yeah, I think. I mean,
Speaker 3: I think crying is very healthy. I think it's a
Speaker 3: good thing. I think we should encourage people to cry more.
Speaker 3: I think it's very cathartic. And I mean, who doesn't
Speaker 3: feel better after a cry? You know, I think it's good.
Speaker 3: I probably don't cry enough, but I think I am
Speaker 3: getting better at it. But yeah, I think it's usually
Speaker 3: like things that I'm like, I'm feeling a bit anyway,
Speaker 3: feeling a bit iffy, feeling a bit like a little
Speaker 3: bit upset about something, a bit angry. Often cry that
Speaker 3: is that, that's that's the thing. But then some you'll
Speaker 3: trigger it, like a film or you know, advert or
Speaker 3: something silly, stupid sentimental meme or something, and I'll be like, gone.
Speaker 1: There you go. I needed that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you're just like thanks for that. Sweet. I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm on the bus, but it's cool. I
Speaker 3: can handle it.
Speaker 1: So what's the film that made you?
Speaker 3: Film? I think that made me cry the most is
Speaker 3: a film called fruit Vale Station? Am you sing it?
Speaker 1: I have? Michael B. Jordan, Yeah, so deep.
Speaker 3: It's so deep. I don't think it's like well, I mean,
Speaker 3: I think it's a great film. But I think what's
Speaker 3: great about it is the like the realism. I don't
Speaker 3: think the storytelling is a phenomenal out as world. That's
Speaker 3: why it's constructing, you know, that's the construct of That
Speaker 3: is what made me cry. But I think it's just
Speaker 3: how real it is. And I mean I watched it
Speaker 3: about seven years ago. I don't know, seven eight years ago.
Speaker 3: I watched it by myself in my friend's flat that
Speaker 3: I was living in at the time. Just one evening.
Speaker 3: I was at home by myself and watched it. And
Speaker 3: I mean, I think, to be fair, if I watched
Speaker 3: it now, you know, with the subject matter of a
Speaker 3: young black man getting shot by the police in a
Speaker 3: way that's well, not an accident, but it's easily preventable.
Speaker 3: Is something that I mean, I don't think it would
Speaker 3: make me cry any less now, and I feel like
Speaker 3: I wept. I was weeping sort of halfway through the
Speaker 3: fucking film because you know, it's just the story of
Speaker 3: him with his daughter and his girlfriend is just really
Speaker 3: lovely but also really real. You know, they're kind of
Speaker 3: going through some shit and it's stuff, and then just
Speaker 3: you know, when it happens and he's on the train
Speaker 3: and you're just like, this is just awful. And I
Speaker 3: was just I think I was just after it. I
Speaker 3: think I cried for about half an hour, like sort
Speaker 3: of it's sobbing on the sofa, like it was awful.
Speaker 3: I was just and I think I think because I
Speaker 3: was like, I know, this is not over. This is
Speaker 3: on one off thing that happened. This is something that
Speaker 3: happens a lot. And I mean I think probably since
Speaker 3: then it's maybe I don't know if it's the numbers
Speaker 3: of escalated, but well they have escalated, but also they
Speaker 3: I think it's becoming more in the public eye, you know.
Speaker 3: I mean, like obviously was George Floyd last year that
Speaker 3: was like it just it seemed like everyone kind of went,
Speaker 3: this is just no sort of it became just too
Speaker 3: much to bear really, and I think, yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: it's a weird one. I think I still remember how
Speaker 3: I felt then watching it, and I think that very
Speaker 3: much sort of translated into how I felt about George
Speaker 3: Floyd and that whole Black Lives Matter amazing movement. But
Speaker 3: the kind of the fight and the the kind of
Speaker 3: everyone was just like, fuck this shit, this is not
Speaker 3: okay anymore. We can't just sit here and just let
Speaker 3: this happen because it's like and it was so blatant,
Speaker 3: and I mean I didn't watch the video, but I
Speaker 3: was like, I don't think. I don't think I need
Speaker 3: to watch the video. I don't. I didn't need that.
Speaker 3: I didn't need to be like educated in how fucking
Speaker 3: awful this is and how again easily preventable it was. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and well, I mean this is always going to be
Speaker 3: a deep question, wasn't it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, you know most people say et but yes,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think I think I do respond to
Speaker 3: films that are quite I mean, close to home isn't
Speaker 3: even necessarily the right thing to say, but that are
Speaker 3: close to real life, and that are about things that
Speaker 3: happened to my people. I feel like that is something
Speaker 3: I do really really respond to because I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: it's just real and if it's done well, like you know,
Speaker 3: Free Girl Station is a great film. Is it is?
Speaker 3: Really it's really well told, and I think if it's
Speaker 3: done it just feels like that feels like that is
Speaker 3: a real story that happened.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting. It's stayed with you. Yeah, that love
Speaker 1: that with everything that happens in real life, that that
Speaker 1: film stayed with you as well. It's very very interesting.
Speaker 1: What is the film you did I mean listened, mate, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I don't know where we're going to go
Speaker 1: from here. What's the film that scared you the most?
Speaker 3: Okay, for goodness, I can't really handle horror films at all.
Speaker 3: I'm going to just tuck and tell you this now.
Speaker 3: I'm going to put it out there. Get scared very easily, Okay,
Speaker 3: like really really easily. So I've got a few sort
Speaker 3: of films to choose from here. I think the biggest
Speaker 3: like jump I've had is watching What Lies Beneath It.
Speaker 3: Watched that film in the cinema with my cousin, who
Speaker 3: also doesn't like horror films. I don't know why did
Speaker 3: we watch it. I mean I think it was it
Speaker 3: was out at the time, and we were like pur
Speaker 3: We're in LA were like, Santa Monica's going to stay
Speaker 3: with my auntie who was working over there at the time,
Speaker 3: So we were I mean we just thought we were
Speaker 3: like the coolest thing ever walking around in like pink
Speaker 3: bandanas and the ship and thinking that we were cool
Speaker 3: for being in a shopping mall. I mean, still sounds
Speaker 3: pretty cool, sounds cool, but yeah, I think it was
Speaker 3: on and it was.
Speaker 1: A Paris and Ford Michelle Fifer fer, Yes, Roberts, you're going,
Speaker 1: of course, you're going.
Speaker 3: Some smooky, some spooky kind of smooky than what smooky
Speaker 3: is spooky in it spooky smooth. There is some spooching
Speaker 3: and some spooky smooching. Yeah, so maybe that's what spooky
Speaker 3: smooky is.
Speaker 1: It's very heavy on the smook spooky hello.
Speaker 3: But I think it's that bit, isn't it. I think
Speaker 3: it's that when she comes out of the bath or something,
Speaker 3: it's around the smooky.
Speaker 1: Yeah smooky then, but like these I squeamed and jumped
Speaker 1: out of my seat both of us, and like it
Speaker 1: was like a cartoon.
Speaker 3: Like like flung arms around each other. We're like literally
Speaker 3: screaming and everyone laughed. In the cinema, it wasn't that
Speaker 3: busy because it was like probably showing because we were thirteen,
Speaker 3: so I probably had to go home quite like my
Speaker 3: mom and my auntie were waiting to like having a
Speaker 3: coffee down the road or something, waiting to take us.
Speaker 3: So so there wasn't that many people in the cine bars,
Speaker 3: which was also quite scary. We found that quite scary too. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but it was just, you know, it was really just creepy.
Speaker 3: It just really creeped me out.
Speaker 1: And it's like it's a smooky movie.
Speaker 3: It's smook, it's smoky, it's smoking. But I mean, this
Speaker 3: is not I feel like this is not a standalone one.
Speaker 3: And I feel like, you know, as I'm out here
Speaker 3: embarrassing myself, I'm going to just go a bit further
Speaker 3: and tell you that I was terrified of Hocus Focus
Speaker 3: until I was about twelve.
Speaker 1: You know, listens Disney film About Which is the.
Speaker 3: Disney film About Which? And the thing is like, is
Speaker 3: the brilliant film, And like I would say, if I
Speaker 3: watch it again, I've seen clips, haven't seen the whole thing.
Speaker 3: Probably gonna still be a bit sad.
Speaker 5: But it's but like when Sarah Chisuka Parker is right
Speaker 5: flying down the street on a hoover singing, come little children,
Speaker 5: I'll take you away.
Speaker 3: No, no, I'm sorry, that's scary. That is scary for
Speaker 3: a child. I mean, maybe not most children, but it's
Speaker 3: freaked me out.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a film on paper that is about
Speaker 1: witches and it's totally legit. It came out Halloween. Halloween exactly,
Speaker 1: is meant to be scary.
Speaker 3: It's one of those ones you'd watch it at a
Speaker 3: sleepover and probably other people will be asleep by the
Speaker 3: time we got to the scary bit and it would
Speaker 3: just be me on my own, fucking I didn't mind
Speaker 3: a fucking pillow being like, well, what if she comes
Speaker 3: to take away? Who is here to save me?
Speaker 1: No one Carrie Bradshiel comes on. It's terrifying.
Speaker 3: Oh I got a bet Middles's Teeth as well.
Speaker 1: Absolutely one of the scariest films of all time.
Speaker 3: You're correct, But also they are making homeospokers too, and
Speaker 3: I'm going to watch it because it is actually brilliant.
Speaker 1: You're brave enough for hopspokers too.
Speaker 3: I am. I'm probably going to be scared again, but
Speaker 3: do you know what, I'm ready?
Speaker 1: Yes, back after you see it, Shivery, it was so scary.
Speaker 1: Middles's teeth.
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, I don't know how. I don't know how
Speaker 3: they're going to top it.
Speaker 1: But tricky maybe.
Speaker 3: Oh hello, I could probably really fly to be fair.
Speaker 1: What's the film that people don't generally like. It's not
Speaker 1: critically acclaimed, but you love it unconditionally.
Speaker 3: Friday, Love Friday. Friday a great film, great film, hilarious,
Speaker 3: so funny, but it's not particularly acclaimed as.
Speaker 1: It didn't win the Oscars.
Speaker 3: It should have, thank you, thank you. Comedy films rarely do.
Speaker 3: But that's a whole that's a whole other thing. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but I mean, yeah, man, Friday is just great. Friday
Speaker 3: is just hilarious. You know. I feel like at to
Speaker 3: the place, the dad in Friday just has some of
Speaker 3: the most comedy lines ever, you know, and he's like,
Speaker 3: whenever I come in the kitchen, you and the kidget,
Speaker 3: all the food, It's like, I just I love it.
Speaker 3: I could. It still makes me laugh now.
Speaker 1: It's lovely. It's great, it's wonderful.
Speaker 3: I quote it when I come out at the bathroom,
Speaker 3: you're in the kitchen, all the rooms in the house, Friday,
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1: It's fucking great. What's the film that you used to love?
Speaker 1: You loved it a lot when you were younger, but
Speaker 1: you've watched it recently and you do not like it
Speaker 1: anymore for whatever reason that might be.
Speaker 3: Okay, so this is a bit wrong as well. But
Speaker 3: I watched it the other day La Confidential go on.
Speaker 1: Interesting answer. I haven't watched it in a very long time.
Speaker 1: I know it was good.
Speaker 3: No, well, nor would I. And it used to be
Speaker 3: like I was talking to my girlfriend and I was like, look,
Speaker 3: she was like in the like the first we were like, oh,
Speaker 3: what films shoul we watch? And this came up and
Speaker 3: I was like it's great, like we should and she's like,
Speaker 3: I've never seen it, like you know, because blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: And I was like, no, it's great, it's great. So
Speaker 3: we watched it like literally two days ago, and I
Speaker 3: was like, I used to love it. I used to
Speaker 3: think it was like really interesting kind of insight into
Speaker 3: life in la and it was kind of the glamour,
Speaker 3: but the seediness and the forties and you know, that
Speaker 3: was all quite fascinating for me. And the kind of
Speaker 3: the whole like tense detective of the crimes that you know,
Speaker 3: the two detectives coming together from opposite sides of this
Speaker 3: idea of detectivedom, which is also a word. Yeah, well,
Speaker 3: I watched it again and I was like, I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: but none of the female characters in this film have
Speaker 3: any agency at all at all. They're all kind of
Speaker 3: these sort of secondary, kind of submissive like kind of
Speaker 3: wet blankets really that they're all like secretaries or prostitutes basically,
Speaker 3: or that or are really or dead or like really
Speaker 3: ugly and stupid or the only one the only female
Speaker 3: character with any agency is the real Lana Turner, who
Speaker 3: then throws a drinker guy Pierce's character because he doesn't
Speaker 3: think that she is whom she is. So what is
Speaker 3: I mean, what's not saying that you only have any
Speaker 3: agency as a woman if you're a famous white movie star. No,
Speaker 3: not that. Also, I've kind of forgotten the level of
Speaker 3: racism in it, Like I understand that they're sort of
Speaker 3: what they're saying, you know, because they the police you know,
Speaker 3: the corrupt head of police. Hope not spoiling it for anyone,
Speaker 3: but it's quite a non film. The chief of police
Speaker 3: or whatever like basically pins this murder on these three
Speaker 3: black suspects who then are like manipulated horribly. And then
Speaker 3: it turns out that they're rapists anyway, so they have
Speaker 3: also done something bad. They are actually terrible people. And
Speaker 3: then and then their shot kind of in an accidental shootout,
Speaker 3: but also that was sort of always the plan anyway.
Speaker 3: And then there's the only other people of color are
Speaker 3: a group of Mexican people who get beaten up at
Speaker 3: the beginning of the film. But then the only sort
Speaker 3: of consequence of that is that it gets photographed and
Speaker 3: then puts on the put on the front page of
Speaker 3: the newspaper, being like, oh my god, the lapd are
Speaker 3: really bad. Not anything to do with these people. And
Speaker 3: I was just like, I know that it's sort of
Speaker 3: showing this as a period piece, you know, it's kind
Speaker 3: of going, look, this is the kind of thing that
Speaker 3: happened in the forties. But you know, going back to
Speaker 3: what we was talking about before about Frutvale Station and stuff,
Speaker 3: it's like this shit still happens and was actually just
Speaker 3: enraging to watch it happen so blatantly in front of
Speaker 3: my eyes, and also was like, you couldn't make this
Speaker 3: film now. Thankfully, I do think the sort of film
Speaker 3: industry is changing for the better. I was still a
Speaker 3: long way to go, but I think it is changing.
Speaker 3: And so I kind of was like, I feel like
Speaker 3: it's sort of a period piece of the nineties making
Speaker 3: a period piece, Like it's sort of that's interesting, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. I was kind of sitting there going,
Speaker 3: what this is? Maybe going, hey, this is nineteen ninety
Speaker 3: seven's idea of this. Yeah, yeah, if we looked at
Speaker 3: it from you know, twenty twenty one, got what you were,
Speaker 3: But if we looked at it from now, we would
Speaker 3: be like, hold on, we need to make a different
Speaker 3: We need to make it maybe a different film, but
Speaker 3: all we need to the way we're framing this narrative
Speaker 3: needs to be very, very different and far less flippant
Speaker 3: to all of these minorities.
Speaker 1: Another brilliant answer I'm going to give do you know
Speaker 1: what I'm going to give you forty for that answer?
Speaker 3: Hello?
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, quite well, you're doing phenomenally well. What
Speaker 1: that's really interesting. That about the flippancy. I think that's
Speaker 1: a really good word for it, and a really good
Speaker 1: That's a good thing for anyone making something to keep
Speaker 1: in mind that work. That's great because you're right about
Speaker 1: period stuff. It's all well and good saying yes, but
Speaker 1: it was like that then it's still how you're your Yeah,
Speaker 1: what you're doing to show.
Speaker 3: It, you're still kind of glorify.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're entirely I mean.
Speaker 3: You're still showing it. You can't just can't put a
Speaker 3: lens on it.
Speaker 1: You're you're still the storyteller. You're still I always think
Speaker 1: that's interesting when you watch stuff, it's like you can
Speaker 1: tell everything about the person who is telling the story.
Speaker 1: You know what the story is, and yeah, totally, there's
Speaker 1: not much. There's a few things I've watched in my
Speaker 1: life where I'm like, person that made this is fucking horrible,
Speaker 1: Like I can I can tell like their soul is bad.
Speaker 1: And even if the film was about a nice thing,
Speaker 1: I'm like, you're bad, you know what I mean. It's
Speaker 1: interesting what's the film that is the most to you?
Speaker 1: Not necessarily the film itself is any good, but the
Speaker 1: experience you had around seeing the film always makes it
Speaker 1: special to you.
Speaker 3: Okay, so I will say toy story o fact, because
Speaker 3: I went.
Speaker 1: To see it.
Speaker 3: I think it must have been the first one all this,
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure it was the first one. We went
Speaker 3: to see it with my best friend at the time
Speaker 3: and her parents and her little sister, and we were
Speaker 3: like twelve. I think I'm probably aging myself there, but
Speaker 3: I mean everyone has.
Speaker 1: The internet, so yeah, we all know you're a dancer.
Speaker 3: Everyone knows I'm a dancer, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: So we were we were like, oh, we want to
Speaker 3: sit at the front, and her parents were like, we
Speaker 3: don't really want to see at the front. You go
Speaker 3: sit in the front. So we were quite excited because
Speaker 3: it felt like we were in the cinema by ourselves.
Speaker 3: Maybe we were and twelve. Maybe we were ten, because
Speaker 3: it feels like quite a basic thing to have happened
Speaker 3: at the age of twelve. But anyway, aside from that,
Speaker 3: so we were there sitting at the front, and I
Speaker 3: was on the left tan side, not very good at
Speaker 3: my right and left. I could have just got away
Speaker 3: with that because you can't even see me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did check on the visuals. She did actually
Speaker 1: the left hand.
Speaker 3: I did it, yeah, and I did this one.
Speaker 1: I was on the left.
Speaker 3: So nearest to this other group of like ten year
Speaker 3: old boys, and I was way through the film. The
Speaker 3: one who was sitting next to me was like, are
Speaker 3: you enjoying the film? And I was like, I'm usually like,
Speaker 3: don't talk to me anything. Well, what happened? Even then?
Speaker 3: I was like, this is sacred.
Speaker 1: Mom so much. I love this about you.
Speaker 3: And I was like, so, I was like, what is this?
Speaker 3: What's happening here? And he was like are you scared?
Speaker 3: Do you want to hold my hand? And I was like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, to hold my hand?
Speaker 1: Hang on? How is this boy?
Speaker 3: He's like ten as well, like we were. We were
Speaker 3: both young, Like it wasn't a weird creepy man doing and.
Speaker 1: You know you don't know him.
Speaker 3: I didn't know him, right, but we were sitting next
Speaker 3: to each other in this scene there because he was
Speaker 3: the one end of his group and I was one
Speaker 3: end at the other end.
Speaker 1: Of my love it, love it? You want me to
Speaker 1: tell you?
Speaker 3: Yeah? And I was like, well, a, it's toy story,
Speaker 3: so not really. Maybe he need not hopeus focus made
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? If it would come back
Speaker 3: to me at hope it's focused and then yeah, probably,
Speaker 3: but I was like it was quiet. I think that
Speaker 3: was sort of the first like sort of approach that
Speaker 3: I'd ever had from a stranger. So I was like, yeah, okay.
Speaker 3: So that just like sat and help his boy's hand
Speaker 3: in the cinema for like a long time, like a
Speaker 3: lot the rest of the film, little sweaty tiny, little
Speaker 3: sweaty hands. But it was just quite sweet. And then
Speaker 3: afterwards after the film, we got up and he said, Okay, thanks,
Speaker 3: I hope you're not going anymore by and I was like, actually,
Speaker 3: that was a cute. It was a cute little scenario,
Speaker 3: you know, and I was lights came on. I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: I don't want to do but then sort of just
Speaker 3: kind of went away, which is really nice. It's kind
Speaker 3: of the best way that it could have been. I know,
Speaker 3: what's we guy? What was we guy?
Speaker 1: I scared anymore?
Speaker 3: So that's nice. I mean, I wasn't scared in the
Speaker 3: first place.
Speaker 1: But hey, yeah, you're not scared anymore. I'm going to
Speaker 1: follow you home, okay.
Speaker 3: Anymore because you're about to be But yeah, it was
Speaker 3: that was very sweet. So I mean I don't know
Speaker 3: if it means.
Speaker 1: That's really really really lovely. It's a nice six, it's
Speaker 1: a sixty pointer. Od, this is a very high school episode.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be previous guests listening to this fur kicking themselves.
Speaker 1: What's the film that you most relate to?
Speaker 3: Okay, this is quite a hard one. Actually I found
Speaker 3: this quite hard. I don't really think I've seen myself
Speaker 3: represented very much on film, especially as a young teenager.
Speaker 3: Definitely didn't really see my own experience reflected back at me.
Speaker 3: I would say a film that I saw really recently
Speaker 3: that I absolutely loved, that really really I went that
Speaker 3: was my school was Rocks.
Speaker 1: Oh fucking hell, that's a great deal.
Speaker 3: That's such a good film. But like at the beginning
Speaker 3: when they're coming in and the teachers are like, sorry, no,
Speaker 3: what are those you know you need to know you
Speaker 3: can't say those earrings out? Why you're in a hoodie?
Speaker 3: What are those trainers? Take your sunglasses off? I was like,
Speaker 3: that was my school. I went to like a state school,
Speaker 3: state girls' school in South London, Burntwood, and that was
Speaker 3: us every day, like rolling in with earrings on, being
Speaker 3: like oh no, like you know, the ahead of the
Speaker 3: years coming. Take your earings are perfected, like taking out
Speaker 3: hooped earrings with one hand each, so they were gone.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 3: I was literally that. I think that had I seen
Speaker 3: that at the time, I would have been like, that's amazing,
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that is like really representative of my
Speaker 3: mind experience. But even like some of the bits, like
Speaker 3: you know, when they're having a fight in the like
Speaker 3: the technolo the food tech room or something, isn't it
Speaker 3: Like yeah, yeah, And I was like, this is so great.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think testimony to the writer, to Rea
Speaker 3: Coco and to all the young female actresses who are
Speaker 3: they're phenomenal, but again, very real. It was very like
Speaker 3: that was probably, yeah, probably the film that I would say.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't I don't relate to it now actively,
Speaker 3: but definitely I was like, fourteen year old me feels
Speaker 3: very seen and thank you for that.
Speaker 1: That's great, that's really great. It's a fucking good film. Great,
Speaker 1: it feels it feels completely real. It feels so real.
Speaker 3: It feels like it could be like a documentary.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's so hard to do that as well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's really really good. O Maki, what's the sexiest film
Speaker 1: you've ever seen?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I don't know. It's quite a hard
Speaker 3: one because again one of my answers was what I
Speaker 3: shouldn't It was the topic. It's the top of the
Speaker 3: band list, so I probably shouldn't say it.
Speaker 1: Oh, you can say listen if you're if it's by
Speaker 1: the way, for anyone who may be news to this podcast.
Speaker 1: When he says the band list, it's just a load
Speaker 1: of films that come up a lot. So I've said,
Speaker 1: try to avoid this if you can. Isn't films that
Speaker 1: I think should be bad?
Speaker 3: I didn't even think that it would.
Speaker 1: Yes, No, it's a great films that everyone loves come
Speaker 1: up a lot. If you if your true answer is
Speaker 1: then you can say it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sorry. Robin Hood the Sexy Fox, What that is? Like?
Speaker 1: I'm laughing because it's so true.
Speaker 3: Of course it's inappropriate, but it's so good. It's so sexy.
Speaker 1: He's fit, man, Marians fucking fit.
Speaker 3: It's funny like fit. I was like, how do I
Speaker 3: get it is like that? How do I like put
Speaker 3: like tea towels and ship on my head and be like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dunning's stunning, wild and.
Speaker 3: Also great she's a great she's a strong woman. We
Speaker 3: like that. Yeah, but like when they're getting married that
Speaker 3: bit in the forest, it's like I was like, hello, hello, Yes,
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, I would definitely one hundred percent go
Speaker 3: to be of both of you and you're animated.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, held my hand. I'm scared.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, maybe don't hold my han Yeah, don't know,
Speaker 3: don't don't don't touch me.
Speaker 1: Don't take my hand. I'm so sorry. Well, there's a
Speaker 1: sub category to this question, you know, okay, which which
Speaker 1: God knows where this is going to take us? Traveling?
Speaker 1: Boner is worrying. Why don't a film you found a
Speaker 1: rousing You weren't sure you should, but you've opened with
Speaker 1: Robin Hood, so I don't know where.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think that was probably the answer
Speaker 3: to the other question. But also I mean probably so
Speaker 3: slightly and inappropriate.
Speaker 1: Scarface scarface Albertino scarface. Yeah, which which specific person.
Speaker 3: In that is so fucking hot, like so hot, it's
Speaker 3: it's quite mad. And I mean I feel like the
Speaker 3: whole film I shouldn't have found arousing because of the content,
Speaker 3: And I mean I don't agree with it as a concept,
Speaker 3: you know, like kings and drugs and violence. But Michelle
Speaker 3: Fav's fucking sex. He's fucking that.
Speaker 1: Michelle Favor is the most beautiful woman that's ever been
Speaker 1: put on screen.
Speaker 3: Probably, Yeah, I don't know what I did that dress? Man,
Speaker 3: It's like, yep, the dress, it's the face.
Speaker 1: The woman can do no wrong. She's also an insanely
Speaker 1: brilliant actor.
Speaker 3: She is brilliant.
Speaker 1: What a talent.
Speaker 3: What a talent, Michelle, She's stunning, stunning.
Speaker 1: Yes, great answers around there, four thousand points.
Speaker 3: I'm doing doing all right? Yeah, get because I feel
Speaker 3: like I might.
Speaker 1: You can. We'll see where we go this. This is
Speaker 1: often one where people lose points. Objectively, this isn't your favorite.
Speaker 1: It's objectively the great film of all time.
Speaker 3: Objectively. Yeah, objectively is hard, isn't it? Because it's hard.
Speaker 3: I think the whole purpose of films are to make
Speaker 3: you not feel objective. Yeah, and yet here we are,
Speaker 3: and yet here we are stalling a little bit. I've
Speaker 3: got two very very very different answers.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll pick one.
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean, firstly, I do think singing in the
Speaker 3: rain is magnificent. Is that where I've fallen down?
Speaker 1: That is where for the probably maybe the first or
Speaker 1: second time in the history of this podcast. You have
Speaker 1: got the answer one hundred percent correct. Yes, fucking L P. MACKI.
Speaker 3: It is just brilliant, though, isn't it.
Speaker 1: It's just so it's objectively the greatest film of all time?
Speaker 3: Oh as in it objectively? Is that is? People?
Speaker 1: It is objectively the greatest film of all time. People
Speaker 1: keep coming on here and saying The Godfather, and they
Speaker 1: are incorrect. The answer is singing in the direct.
Speaker 3: I think Singing the Rain is a lot, but it's
Speaker 3: just quite magical, isn't it. I mean, I think just
Speaker 3: all of the old Hollywood stuff, like the sort of
Speaker 3: Hollywood schooling that they go through with him and his
Speaker 3: mate when they learned, like the elocution and all of that.
Speaker 3: And what's her name? The one that Reynolds sings for.
Speaker 1: Oh, that is a brilliant bit of character acting, funny.
Speaker 3: Fucking hilarious. She's so also that voice where that voice
Speaker 3: come from? It's like that, it was funny, it's so
Speaker 3: jokes and like the you know, some of the dance
Speaker 3: sequences are like so impressive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're a dancers you would know, like it
Speaker 1: was really impressive.
Speaker 3: Figuries similar level, you know, so.
Speaker 1: What a feel perfect lord? Stunning, stunning? What was going
Speaker 1: to be your alternative? Because you don't need it?
Speaker 3: I don't need it, so I'm not to hear it.
Speaker 3: I was going to say good Fellas, but that is
Speaker 3: just personal god.
Speaker 1: I mean, if it's could have not been singing the rain,
Speaker 1: it's could be good for.
Speaker 3: Hellas right, just brilliant.
Speaker 1: She's a brilliant I mean, oh, Mackie smashing this out
Speaker 1: of the park into the next room.
Speaker 3: Maybe we ain't finished yet.
Speaker 1: Though, genuinely unbelievable, unbelievable stuff. What's the film that you
Speaker 1: could or have? What's the most over and over again?
Speaker 3: Clueless?
Speaker 1: Lovely?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I could probably like it word for word.
Speaker 3: I won't because we're here for a long time, but yeah,
Speaker 3: long episode. But yeah, I just loved it. I think
Speaker 3: just that kind of that sort of teenage like ridiculousness
Speaker 3: of them, but it was it was so far away
Speaker 3: from my own experience and also would they like, you know,
Speaker 3: a good sort of four or five years older than me.
Speaker 3: So this is another film I used to watch with
Speaker 3: my mum doing my hair when I really love that.
Speaker 3: I just loved it and like the soundtracks brilliant and
Speaker 3: like it's even hilarious going back to it and watching
Speaker 3: it now because you look around and like you're like,
Speaker 3: there's so many like you know the bit where she's
Speaker 3: like what is it? What is what? Guys? How guys
Speaker 3: dress today? Like what is the ship? And I'm looking
Speaker 3: around like like you know the park oppositely wherever I live,
Speaker 3: And I'm like, you look, you've literally been cut and
Speaker 3: pasted from clueless from that scene includes with your and
Speaker 3: your greasy hair and your backwards cap and you're like
Speaker 3: punk band T shirt, Like it's so exactly the same,
Speaker 3: which I find absolutely hilarious. Yeah, I mean, it's just
Speaker 3: so jokes, isn't it. It's so frivolous, but also does
Speaker 3: make you feel quite.
Speaker 1: Warm, and it's ever so good. It is, it's ever
Speaker 1: so good on the other end of the scale. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't like to be negative. I don't think you
Speaker 1: do either, So let's keep it brief. What's the worst
Speaker 1: film you ever saw?
Speaker 3: Okay, it's a bit out there, and I think my
Speaker 3: girlfriend might hate people saying this, but Lord of the
Speaker 3: Rings the final one. It edits about five times.
Speaker 1: It ends many more times than you know what, so long.
Speaker 3: I watched it in a cinema. People were like, people
Speaker 3: are like, you'd think that it's done, and you're like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, and now they're back in the shire.
Speaker 3: Oh come on, no, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. The whole
Speaker 3: trilogy in itself is quite long, but at least that one,
Speaker 3: you know, the other two have some kind of adventure.
Speaker 3: This one is just a tiny bit of adventure and
Speaker 3: then they're just going home.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they various sets of people need to hug
Speaker 1: and jump on beds, well loads apparently every single I mean,
Speaker 1: I struggle with the basic narrative of Lord of the
Speaker 1: Rings in terms of get a ring in a thing?
Speaker 1: Why does it take so long? I mean exactly, get
Speaker 1: over there, get the ring in the thing.
Speaker 3: Get the ring in the thing.
Speaker 1: Do you know what the ring needs to get in
Speaker 1: the thing. How long is it going to take it?
Speaker 1: Twelve fucking hours? Yeah, that's long.
Speaker 3: And also yeah, the last one, don't done it?
Speaker 1: And then another hour of hugging they've done it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just got the film done. Finished the film.
Speaker 1: But some people, like my my good friend Tim, he's like,
Speaker 1: I want to see more of them, like cooking meals, together. Oh,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: It's just people who love it. But I people.
Speaker 1: Like watching watching elves cook together or something apparently, so
Speaker 1: good luck.
Speaker 3: To do apparently, And I'm sure and I'm sure they
Speaker 3: loved it, but it's just my my personal opinion.
Speaker 1: Yes, but it's interesting you picked the third the third one? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you love one and two you bang into.
Speaker 3: I didn't say that.
Speaker 1: Okay. What's the film that made you laugh the most?
Speaker 3: Okay, this is quite weird one as well. A film
Speaker 3: called about Last Night. Yes, Kevin Hart and Regina Hall.
Speaker 3: That's so funny in it. I feel like the way
Speaker 3: that they just bounce off each other and they're just
Speaker 3: you know, obviously playing these two characters who kind of
Speaker 3: despise each other but then end up sucking quite a
Speaker 3: lot and then end up but it's just they're just hilarious.
Speaker 3: They are hilarious. I mean, I think I think Gene
Speaker 3: is phenomenal anyway, but yeah, she's so funny and underrated
Speaker 3: and she's just they're just great. Their chemistry is just brilliant.
Speaker 3: I mean, me and my best friend went through a
Speaker 3: phase of watching that so much, just like on a
Speaker 3: hungover Sunday would just be like let's get a pizza
Speaker 3: and watch about last night, and it would always make
Speaker 3: us laugh. I can't vouch for the state of my
Speaker 3: brain after however many glasses of wine I had had
Speaker 3: the night before. But it was funny. It's just love
Speaker 3: it to crack me up. Crack me up.
Speaker 1: I'm giving you twenty twenty points. Great, Okay, I cannot
Speaker 1: tell you how brilliant you've been. I can't tell you
Speaker 1: because it would be rude to the the guests.
Speaker 3: I actually can't tell you.
Speaker 1: I can't tell I mean legally, I mean for the
Speaker 1: for the health of other people listening. I can't tell
Speaker 1: it how brilliant you've been. But let's just say, totting
Speaker 1: up the scores here, you've got four. It was an
Speaker 1: eighty there that you're looking at. We're in what we're
Speaker 1: looking at five thousand, one hundred points. What which is sick?
Speaker 1: Which is the highest score we've ever had.
Speaker 3: Really.
Speaker 1: However, however, Pearl, when you were out for dinner with
Speaker 1: your mom and you said, I lobster can't be the
Speaker 1: bad one. It's not all shellfish, and your mom very
Speaker 1: specifically said, I promise you you're allergic to all shellfish,
Speaker 1: and you said no, but I like lobster. I can't
Speaker 1: I remember enjoying lobster. And it's just a lobster, just
Speaker 1: one lobster. I'm only gonna have one lobster, Mom, there'll
Speaker 1: be such a square. And your mom's like, honestly, pearl
Speaker 1: the history, just trust me on this one. You kin'd
Speaker 1: have loves her and you went, fuck you, mom, You're
Speaker 1: not at the bus of me, and you ordered loves her,
Speaker 1: and your mom shook her head. She said, pearl, pearl, pearl.
Speaker 1: She said that under her breath a lot bl and
Speaker 1: you started eating a lobster, and your body simultaneously retracted
Speaker 1: and extended, and you very slowly turned into the wrinkled
Speaker 1: bullsack emoji that some call an octopus. And you sat
Speaker 1: there in front of your mom like this fucking giant emoji,
Speaker 1: both both wrinkled and huge. And your mom threw her
Speaker 1: tears because she does love you, and she's sad you're dead.
Speaker 1: The one bit of joy she had she went, I
Speaker 1: fucking told you so. And the other diners looked over it,
Speaker 1: and someone went and and and I was walking past,
Speaker 1: I was walking and then someone sort of came over
Speaker 1: to your mama, said, I've seen your daughter in the
Speaker 1: in the show, and you went right, and then they
Speaker 1: just walked. Obviously he liked it fox sake. And then
Speaker 1: and then I was passing with a coffin, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm like wondering about, and I was like, holy shit,
Speaker 1: I got to your moments. I go, I actually, I'm
Speaker 1: a big fan of pal Maggie and it's a shame
Speaker 1: to see her as a giant wrinkled bulls now. But
Speaker 1: I've got a coffin with me, so let me take
Speaker 1: care of this for you. And she goes, thank you. Honestly.
Speaker 1: The thing is bett, I told her, and she wouldn't listen.
Speaker 1: She's always been like that. She's very rude. You know.
Speaker 1: I used to play her hair and now she plats
Speaker 1: her own hair. Now go, I'm dead, And I went, yeah,
Speaker 1: well this is that's kids for you in it. And
Speaker 1: I takes the knife that the fork thing that you
Speaker 1: used for the loved puncturing you to try and get
Speaker 1: some of the size down, get some knives someone to
Speaker 1: chop you up with, because someone's having over there. So
Speaker 1: I got the steak now from chopping into you. It's
Speaker 1: a lot of it, and it's just actually like whale
Speaker 1: blubber at this point, because the thing you've turned into
Speaker 1: is just like half seafood. Anyway, I folded you in
Speaker 1: and folded you up, put you in this coffin. The
Speaker 1: thing is, there's so much more of you than there
Speaker 1: should be. It's absolutely jammed in there. There was really
Speaker 1: only enough room in this coffin for me to slide
Speaker 1: one DVD into the side review for you to take
Speaker 1: to the other side. On the other side, it's movie
Speaker 1: night every night, one night, it's your movie night. What
Speaker 1: film are you taking to show everyone?
Speaker 3: Oh, go on, it's gonna have to be clueless, Yeah, clueless.
Speaker 3: They're gonna love it. That means I get to like
Speaker 3: act out the whole film.
Speaker 1: You're going to stand in front of the actor out
Speaker 1: in front of the screen. They're gonna love it. They're
Speaker 1: gonna be there's year. This is five one zero zero Joy.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 1: I have loved this. Would you like to tell anyone
Speaker 1: to look out for anything, watch something, listen to something.
Speaker 1: The Long Hall is coming at some point.
Speaker 3: The Long Call, even the Long.
Speaker 1: Cal even better, much better.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, don't watch the Long Haul, but do watch
Speaker 3: the Long call. I think it should be please in
Speaker 3: the autumn.
Speaker 1: Very nice. I really appreciate you.
Speaker 3: I appreciate you.
Speaker 1: Thank you for your time for doing this and for
Speaker 1: phenomenal answers. Have a wonderful death and good day to you.
Speaker 3: Thank you sir.
Speaker 1: So that was another rewind classic. We'll be back on
Speaker 1: August night with ten brand new episodes. Thanks for listening.
Speaker 1: I hope you're all well. I hope you're having a
Speaker 1: lovely summer. Thank you to Scrubs, Pip and the Destruction
Speaker 1: Pieces Network. Thanks to Buddy Peaks for producing it. Thanks
Speaker 1: to iHeartMedia and Will Ferreoh's Big Money Players Network for
Speaker 1: hosting it. Thanks to Adam Richardson for the graphics and
Speaker 1: least a Light them for the photography. So that is
Speaker 1: it for now. In the meantime, have a lovely week
Speaker 1: and please be excellent to each other.
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