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Speaker 2: I missed you. I missed you super adget I was
Speaker 2: kind of a jerk to you when I first got here.
Speaker 2: I apologized, and it's all good. Your mom was very
Speaker 2: mad at me. She was like, you really hurt demands
Speaker 2: this feeling. I was like, he knows that I didn't.
Speaker 2: I was rational.
Speaker 4: People story, you know, I apologize. No, it's farm, it's farm.
Speaker 4: I definitely.
Speaker 5: I mean you did, like in fairness, you did say
Speaker 5: something about it a couple of times.
Speaker 2: It's all but I mean, but it was also like
Speaker 2: ninety seconds, pay what. I apologize for that. It was
Speaker 2: good to see you. I really missed you. Damn it.
Speaker 2: My hair is a disaster.
Speaker 4: We're just gonna roll with it, kind of like a
Speaker 4: John Wick thing going on this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know I got it. I gotta get it together.
Speaker 2: But I almost got my hair cut in Italy, that
Speaker 2: style that I showed you, I almost got it cut.
Speaker 2: But because it's like an Italian hair style.
Speaker 5: Can I ask the question, Yeah, how many drinks have
Speaker 5: you had had when you were thinking about it?
Speaker 2: Oh? I was stone sober. I wasn't stone sober and
Speaker 2: most of the trip, but in that moment, I was
Speaker 2: in your mom and I walked down to the guy.
Speaker 2: But then she didn't trust it. Yeah, it was like
Speaker 2: she was like, no, you gotta have a black guy
Speaker 2: cut your hair. I'm like, this is an Italian hairstyle.
Speaker 4: You have to see. I've actually got a funny story
Speaker 4: about that.
Speaker 5: But you've got to see who gets out of the chair, Like,
Speaker 5: I feel like you have to watch him cut somebody's hair.
Speaker 4: And you've got a haircut since our last This was
Speaker 4: not intentional.
Speaker 2: Well, the haircut was intentional. The length of the haircut
Speaker 2: was not intention of course. Yeah got the hair. It
Speaker 2: didn't accidentally do like I thought I was an applebee?
Speaker 2: What are you doing? All right? Welcome in another episode
Speaker 2: What's Right? Nick Right? The podcast and YouTube show. One
Speaker 2: special announcement. This is going to be the only place
Speaker 2: you can get me audio video for at least the
Speaker 2: rest of this week. I don't know if I'm suposed
Speaker 2: to say this or not, maybe slightly longer. Now. The
Speaker 2: internet rumors of the demise of First Things First, not
Speaker 2: only are they greatly exaggerated, they're flatly wrong. However, we
Speaker 2: do have an important I can't call announcement, but an
Speaker 2: important thing that is happening with first things first, it
Speaker 2: might have to do with where the show is shot
Speaker 2: from without revealing too much, and because of that, we're
Speaker 2: going to be off the air temporarily as all those
Speaker 2: things get going. So if you're watching this, if you're
Speaker 2: listening to this for at least the rest of this week,
Speaker 2: maybe a tiny bit bleeding in the next week, this
Speaker 2: is the place to find me. Plus on Twitter of course,
Speaker 2: but this is really it. I am so excited. What
Speaker 2: I'm not going to do is what people do when
Speaker 2: they come off vacation in media, which is start the
Speaker 2: show's talking about their vacation. I went to Rome. It
Speaker 2: was amazing. The history is unlike anything I've ever seen.
Speaker 2: The rest of that check my Instagram stories. All right, now,
Speaker 2: we will get the show going the way we always
Speaker 2: do by discussing what we are not discussing on today's show.
Speaker 2: Here is what did not make the cut for our
Speaker 2: return show of What's Right with the Game of Thrones return?
Speaker 2: That has not made the cut for a number of reasons,
Speaker 2: most notably I have not yet watched it. That is
Speaker 2: a show I watched with my wife. My wife just
Speaker 2: a total soldier nine days in Rome, partying almost every
Speaker 2: night late into the night, flies back to New York
Speaker 2: and just goes out. She and her best friend Nicole,
Speaker 2: who is here with us. They're like, Hey, it's Harlem Day.
Speaker 2: We're going to a concert. I'm like, you're going to
Speaker 2: a concert. It was unbelievable Shack calling Steph the best
Speaker 2: in the world. I don't know that. It's not that.
Speaker 2: I don't know that I agree with that. I definitely
Speaker 2: disagree with that. It's Jannest But all these like current rankings,
Speaker 2: all time rankings, the still of Steph behind KD strike
Speaker 2: me as a little odd. And the Ravens win an
Speaker 2: incomprehensible twenty second straight preseason game. I believe in that streak.
Speaker 2: They are seventeen four and one against the spread. You
Speaker 2: know what they say, good teams win, great teams cover.
Speaker 2: We will discuss that on the Gambling Show if the
Speaker 2: Gambling Show gets rolling when the preseason is still going on,
Speaker 2: which is unlikely, but it is the type of thing
Speaker 2: we would discuss on the Gambling Show. Demansey, I don't
Speaker 2: know if you can tell. I am very excited to
Speaker 2: be back on the air. Yeah. I have so many
Speaker 2: takes built up inside of me, like like a chamber.
Speaker 2: That's overflowing. So let's get going. What are we starting with?
Speaker 4: All right, Deshaun Watson's official suspension.
Speaker 2: All right, so we're starting with just a laugher of
Speaker 2: a topic going on.
Speaker 4: Official suspension is eleven games.
Speaker 5: Yep, he will be fine five million dollars, but he
Speaker 5: will be back for the final playoff push yep.
Speaker 4: What's your reaction to this final suspension?
Speaker 2: I think that Listen. As I've said before, and I'll
Speaker 2: say it very quickly, there was no amount of games
Speaker 2: that was going to feel right. And by that, I
Speaker 2: mean if he didn't do it, he should get zero games.
Speaker 2: If he did it, and you're talking about two dozen
Speaker 2: plus cases of credibly or credible cases of alleged sexual misconduct,
Speaker 2: One season is not enough. Two seasons feels like now,
Speaker 2: I don't know, that's like, you know, a game and
Speaker 2: a half per accuser. So there was never you were
Speaker 2: never going to be able to thread the needle. But
Speaker 2: we always knew six was not enough. From a purely
Speaker 2: cold perspective, what's best for the NFL and best for
Speaker 2: the Browns, it was that the suspension ind this year
Speaker 2: because then the storyline ends this year. If they would
Speaker 2: have suspended him the entire season. Then the entire saga
Speaker 2: of Deshaun's return his first game with the Browns is
Speaker 2: now a story in the vacuum of next offseason when
Speaker 2: people are looking for things to discuss. I found it
Speaker 2: odd that they did eleven and not twelve, because that
Speaker 2: now lets him come back for the Texans game, and
Speaker 2: so there's gonna be a lot of media attention surrounding
Speaker 2: that because their twelfth game of the season is the
Speaker 2: Texans game. I, however, do not believe there will be
Speaker 2: a playoff push for the Browns. I don't what does
Speaker 2: their record need to be in order for them to
Speaker 2: be a credible playoff contender seven and four after eleven games.
Speaker 2: Some people might say six and five. But the the
Speaker 2: other element of this, and this is to me the
Speaker 2: more I guess unique opinion is I think the Browns
Speaker 2: fans and management are going to look back on this
Speaker 2: trade as such an absolute football disaster, not just to
Speaker 2: forget pr forget morality, forget all of those things from
Speaker 2: a football perspective. Deshaun Watson did not play at all
Speaker 2: last year. He is now not going to play for
Speaker 2: the first three months of this year. He is an
Speaker 2: incredibly talented player. With that said, we have seen a
Speaker 2: team quarterbacked by Deshaun Watson that had deficiencies in other
Speaker 2: areas Go four and twelve when he was the quarterback
Speaker 2: for the full season. So what's my point there? Because
Speaker 2: they're not going to be able to call it restock
Speaker 2: their team through the draft the way they would otherwise
Speaker 2: like to because of the trades and what they gave
Speaker 2: up for him, because of the time off. Because of
Speaker 2: all of that, and because the quarterbacking in the AFC
Speaker 2: is now so overwhelming, I ain't the return on investment
Speaker 2: from a pure football perspective is not going to be
Speaker 2: what the Browns wanted. And because he wasn't suspended the
Speaker 2: full year his kind. If he was suspended the full year,
Speaker 2: his contract would toll, which means basically, would like freeze
Speaker 2: in time and what should he should be paid in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, he'd be paid in twenty twenty four,
Speaker 2: so on and so forth. Because he's coming back this year,
Speaker 2: that doesn't happen. The contract goes on its regular timeline,
Speaker 2: So in twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four, twenty twenty five,
Speaker 2: and twenty twenty six, just quickly. Deshaun Watson has either
Speaker 2: the highest or the second highest cap hit of any
Speaker 2: player in the sport all four years. So you don't
Speaker 2: have your first round picks. You have the most expensive
Speaker 2: quarterback in the sport who right now now might be
Speaker 2: the fifth best quarterback in his own conference. And people
Speaker 2: can say that's that's oh Nick, you're under selling him, Mahomes, Alan,
Speaker 2: Herbert Burrow, Lamar, there's five. Now. You want to argue
Speaker 2: Lamar over a couple of those guys, you can, But
Speaker 2: you also could argue all of those guys over Lamar,
Speaker 2: and that's before. Some people love Russell Wilson. I'm sorry
Speaker 2: over Lamoar, Over to Shawn. Some people love Russell Wilson.
Speaker 2: There's other people that could have been included. So I
Speaker 2: the if I had to guess, I know I'm stepping
Speaker 2: on what you were. I just looked at it. You
Speaker 2: were going to ask me what the record was going
Speaker 2: to be. My apologies. Like I said, I got a
Speaker 2: lot of.
Speaker 4: Takes build up.
Speaker 2: I'm ready to go. I think that the if you
Speaker 2: look at the Browns through the first eleven games, what
Speaker 2: are to me games they're definitely losing. To me, They're
Speaker 2: definitely losing to the Chargers, to the Ravens, to the Bengals,
Speaker 2: to the Bills, right to the Bucks. That's five. Those
Speaker 2: aren't definite losses. Say say in those five games they
Speaker 2: go one and four, then they the There are other
Speaker 2: games are Panthers, Jets, Steelers, Patriots, Dolphins. So even if
Speaker 2: they they're not gonna sweep those with Jacobe at quarterback.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, I think six and five is
Speaker 2: the best they can hope for. And I don't think
Speaker 2: Deshaun is gonna come back after nearly two years off
Speaker 2: and and just be awesome. There's gonna be some russ
Speaker 2: there's gonna be all that. So I don't think it
Speaker 2: will be a playoff push. I think the Browns fans
Speaker 2: are already upset with this. I think they're gonna get
Speaker 2: more upset. Okay, we good to move on. Let's move on.
Speaker 2: Let's do it.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 5: Social social media lit up after Giants rookie Cavon Thibodeau
Speaker 5: was Wow.
Speaker 2: Well done, well done. You've really gotten good at that.
Speaker 4: I mean, we're in Houston, Papado, I know the d A,
Speaker 4: the d e A.
Speaker 2: Uh oh, you're right, but also you've just gotten really good.
Speaker 2: You also didn't call them Thibodeaux. No, you did a
Speaker 2: great job.
Speaker 5: Okay, he will go ahead, he says, He's okay, But
Speaker 5: it looks like a dirty play.
Speaker 2: What do you think of the situation? Yeah, listen, I
Speaker 2: think that that play. This is one of those I'm
Speaker 2: gonna use a very tortured metaphor here. Okay, but just
Speaker 2: follow me for a moment. If you have too much
Speaker 2: to drink and you drive into a stop sign and
Speaker 2: the person you were at dinner with had the exact
Speaker 2: same amount of drinks as you did, the exact same weight,
Speaker 2: they have the exact same level of intoxication, and they
Speaker 2: drive into a bus stop with people standing there, your
Speaker 2: penalties are going to obviously be greatly different, even though
Speaker 2: your crimes were the same. It's because the result. We
Speaker 2: are judging the result rather than the action. This, to
Speaker 2: me is a vintage example of judging the result. And
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to compare the block to drunk driving,
Speaker 2: point being that block happens a dozen times again. The
Speaker 2: re the on that play, and I'm not trying to
Speaker 2: get to x's and o's nerdy football, but on that play,
Speaker 2: the tight ends job is to come across seal, that
Speaker 2: outside linebacker or that pass rusher, that rushing player, and
Speaker 2: to do that, they often go low. Football is an
Speaker 2: inherently dangerous game with the league has decided and I
Speaker 2: know it bothers the players sometimes, but the league is
Speaker 2: rightfully decided we are going to penalize you for going high.
Speaker 2: So and the players know we don't want you to
Speaker 2: come at our you know, basically knee down. But now
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, the strike zone area is shrinking,
Speaker 2: and if the if you're gonna get the penalty for
Speaker 2: going high, you're gonna air on the side of low. Addition,
Speaker 2: if you watch the play Thibodeau again, I want to
Speaker 2: get two x's and no's on it doesn't play it great.
Speaker 2: You see that play happen all the time in football.
Speaker 2: And what you see is I remember guys used to
Speaker 2: do this to JJ Wat all the time. And what
Speaker 2: Watt was unbelievable at was keeping his hips parallel. Correct
Speaker 2: what you're and put his hands down, keep it, get
Speaker 2: his hands there, keep his hip parallel to the sideline,
Speaker 2: have his hands ready, and when the guy comes, he
Speaker 2: almost would propel off the guy around him. Thibodeau at
Speaker 2: the last second turns the other way, turns to where
Speaker 2: instead of facing the sideline, he's facing the end line
Speaker 2: and the guy and the guy by the way seemed
Speaker 2: to be aiming at his hip and it slid down
Speaker 2: and hit him in the knee. So I did not
Speaker 2: think it was a dirty play. I think it was
Speaker 2: an unfortunate play, an inherently violent game. I also think
Speaker 2: this play and the reaction to this play is further
Speaker 2: evidence that social media is making everyone lose their minds,
Speaker 2: and it is of all the concerns I have for
Speaker 2: the few. Again, this going to seem hyperbolic, I don't
Speaker 2: mean it too for the future of civilized society and
Speaker 2: our ability to communicate, discuss, and interact with each other.
Speaker 2: The reaction to this is another check in the column
Speaker 2: of we might be screwed because nobody wants to operate
Speaker 2: in anywhere in the gray. It was the my colleague
Speaker 2: emmanuelaccho Is, I think the I don't know if he
Speaker 2: was the first one who tweeted out, but his tweet
Speaker 2: seems we will let's get the most attention. Called it
Speaker 2: not only a dirty play, but a cowardly play. You
Speaker 2: then had people lining up either saying, yep, the guy
Speaker 2: who threw that block is a dirty player, guys trying
Speaker 2: to make a football team. And then on the other hand,
Speaker 2: you had guys lining up on the other side saying,
Speaker 2: it's not even gray area. It is as clean. It's
Speaker 2: the only way to play that when the answer probably
Speaker 2: is yeah, I deally he goes six inches higher, and
Speaker 2: ideally Thibodeau plays it a little smarter and ideally nobody
Speaker 2: gets banged up there. But people are just so adamant.
Speaker 2: And the other thing is and this is not my
Speaker 2: original opinion, but it's one I espouse a lot because
Speaker 2: I heard it seven years ago and it struck me
Speaker 2: as so smart about one of the issues that we
Speaker 2: have in this country politically now. But it's now spilled
Speaker 2: over and everything, which is people get tied to opinions
Speaker 2: the way talk show hosts used to so in the past,
Speaker 2: before you everyone had their own audience, you could think
Speaker 2: and believe something, get new information and change your opinion,
Speaker 2: and the only people who knew you changed your opinion
Speaker 2: were your closest friends and family.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: But now that everyone has an audience, everyone gets tied
Speaker 2: to a take and they feel like they have to
Speaker 2: defend that take even when new evidence comes around. And
Speaker 2: so if you saw Acho's tweet and you're like, listen,
Speaker 2: I didn't play football. I don't know he played football.
Speaker 2: He says this is dirty. So you fire off a
Speaker 2: tweet that guy should be suspended for the year. It's
Speaker 2: a dirty player. I'd cut him. And then you see
Speaker 2: seven other former football players say, hey, I did play
Speaker 2: like Ajo played. I disagree with him. In a normal world,
Speaker 2: you may be like, oh, I was basing my opinion
Speaker 2: on someone else's opinion because of their experience. Now there's
Speaker 2: more people with other experience. Give me theirs I can
Speaker 2: come to. But now you're tied to it. Nobody wants
Speaker 2: to admit they're wrong. So now they're like, Nope, you're wrong.
Speaker 2: Jeff Schwartz, you're wrong, Mark Schlereth, you guys, And so
Speaker 2: it just becomes up. People need to be more like science. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there you go, that's a good line. I agree, evolve
Speaker 2: with new evidence. And the other thing is this, folks.
Speaker 2: As we've learned from the Draymond Green media experience, not
Speaker 2: everyone is prepared to deal with the take backlash and
Speaker 2: to learn the way I have learned over almost twenty
Speaker 2: years of doing this, how to wiggle out of your
Speaker 2: worst opinions, how to find a way a little sleight
Speaker 2: of hand and be like, oh look over here, and
Speaker 2: you're now you're free and clear. So instead they're just
Speaker 2: arguing and cursing and yelling. All right, what's next?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: Next? Is Tom Brady?
Speaker 5: Oh you miss some training camp, dude, there's a lot
Speaker 5: of training camp issues.
Speaker 2: He left training camp before I left for Rome, and
Speaker 2: he got back today, which is we're recording on Monday.
Speaker 2: He missed a lot of training. Hey man, he's freaking
Speaker 2: Tom Brady. Okay, go ahead, training camp.
Speaker 5: Yeah, however you returned to practice practice Monday morning.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 4: Some people think.
Speaker 5: That he missed all of this so he could go
Speaker 5: on audition for the Massinger. Okay, whatever, that is his off.
Speaker 2: Okay, by the way, that might be Fox's highest rated
Speaker 2: television shows.
Speaker 5: No, I kind of I know it. It was like, honestly,
Speaker 5: a part of my persona.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, you know what. You're right about that, and
Speaker 2: it is it is a part of the demand's a brain.
Speaker 2: I don't watch the Masked Singer. What are you talking about?
Speaker 2: But great show America should watch it. Go ahead.
Speaker 5: His offensive line has become very injured over the postseason.
Speaker 5: With all this weird news, are you still fading the Bucks?
Speaker 2: Okay, yes, I'm still fading the Bucks first of all.
Speaker 2: Second of all, let me talk about the Brady thing
Speaker 2: for a moment. Okay. Everyone's gonna ask for Nick to
Speaker 2: crush Tom Brady. They expect me to crush Tom. There
Speaker 2: is one athlete in the world who has earned the
Speaker 2: level of deference due to longevity and excellence that Bradys wonder.
Speaker 2: Check your Bengo card. It's Lebron. Okay. If I am
Speaker 2: being honest, if Lebron was mysteriously gone from training camp
Speaker 2: for ten days, would I say bad teammate not doing it,
Speaker 2: or would I say, guys, he's been in the league
Speaker 2: twenty years. If he needs Simon needs time, I'd say
Speaker 2: the latter, not the former. So if I would cut
Speaker 2: Lebron the slack, I'm gonna cut Brady the slack. Okay.
Speaker 2: That's first of all. With that said, this is me
Speaker 2: giving myself an out on that opinion. If I decide
Speaker 2: I want to crush Tom Brady and okay, okay, if
Speaker 2: he did this to go on the masked Singer, I
Speaker 2: take everything I just said back, you can't do if
Speaker 2: you did this because hey, I told my wife I
Speaker 2: was retiring. Retiring, she scheduled a family vacation. Okay. I
Speaker 2: then told her I was coming back, and part of
Speaker 2: the negotiation was all still go, and she was like,
Speaker 2: it's the middle of training camp, baby, I'm telling you
Speaker 2: I'll still go. We'll work it out. Then I'm fine
Speaker 2: with that. Right then, It's not that to me is
Speaker 2: there are a lot of reasons if it is to
Speaker 2: go on the mass singer. Even if you might be like,
Speaker 2: if he's gonna miss time, what does it matter what
Speaker 2: he's doing. I just think it's such a bad look
Speaker 2: for the team and for makeing. It's if Lebron use
Speaker 2: the same example mistraining camp, but then we found it
Speaker 2: was because he was on Dancing with the Stars. I
Speaker 2: think people be like, dude, what are you doing now?
Speaker 2: To the actual bucks. Yeah, I think they're screwed. I
Speaker 2: think they are screwed now screwed.
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, I feel like that's huge.
Speaker 2: I think will listen, We'll see if he can have
Speaker 2: a resurgence. The last you know, his last year in
Speaker 2: Atlanta was mediocre, last season in Tennessee was bad. We'll
Speaker 2: see how healthy is. But the listen, they're in such
Speaker 2: a bad division that they'll still be a playoff team.
Speaker 2: I would expect that. But the one place that Brady
Speaker 2: is most vulnerable his whole career is not if you
Speaker 2: can get pressure from the edge, because he's so smart
Speaker 2: and can get the ball out so fast, even the
Speaker 2: best edge guys usually can't get to him in time.
Speaker 2: It's if you can get pressure up the middle. I'm
Speaker 2: not breaking news here. Both guards of both his starting
Speaker 2: guards left the team this afice his starting center. Who
Speaker 2: was the guy? And that's our clock. But there's gonna
Speaker 2: be a long show because I have all these extra
Speaker 2: takes built up in me and I wasn't on TV today.
Speaker 2: His starting center, who was the guy? If you remember
Speaker 2: when Brady unretired, he called and he got the contract extension.
Speaker 2: Ryan Jensen Jenten out for the year this weekend, one
Speaker 2: of the guards they brought in or that was going
Speaker 2: to replace one of the starting guards Stinny. He's now
Speaker 2: out for the year, so sat and it is at
Speaker 2: the worst spot on the team. The Ryan Jensen injury,
Speaker 2: I said it when it happened. Aside from Brady, I
Speaker 2: think it's the single worst injury Tampa could have suffered
Speaker 2: a bigger deal than even Mike Evans getting hurt because
Speaker 2: Brady can work with other receivers that you lose arguably
Speaker 2: the best center in football. So I think that's a
Speaker 2: big problem. I do think Brady flirting with retirement, flirting
Speaker 2: with other teams now missing training camp. While I'm not
Speaker 2: going to crush him for it, is an indication that
Speaker 2: he maybe isn't as one hundred percent dialed in as
Speaker 2: he has been in the past, which is understandable. Guy's
Speaker 2: gonna be forty five years old. All of those are
Speaker 2: reasons to fade the Bucks now. I want to pull
Speaker 2: up their schedule real quick. Is that a reason that
Speaker 2: I think they're not gonna win the Division? Of course
Speaker 2: not because I don't believe in the Saints. The Panthers
Speaker 2: are the Panthers, and the Falcons might be the worst
Speaker 2: team in football. But could the Bucks start off one
Speaker 2: in three? Put this as a promo for the gambling show,
Speaker 2: make this prop bet. I would if you set the
Speaker 2: over under on the Bucks wins after four weeks at
Speaker 2: one and a half, I would bet the under. If
Speaker 2: you set the over under on Bucks wins after four
Speaker 2: weeks at two where I get a push if they
Speaker 2: go to and two and I will lose at three
Speaker 2: and one or four and zero, I would hammer the under.
Speaker 2: Week one, they're at Dallas. Week two they're at New Orleans. Again.
Speaker 2: I don't love New Orleans, but New Orleans is the
Speaker 2: one team in football who's beat Brady up throughout the
Speaker 2: last He's one and three against them in the regular season.
Speaker 2: Since you went to Tampa Week three home for the Packers,
Speaker 2: Week four home for the Chiefs, it then gets incredibly
Speaker 2: soft after that, with the exception of a two week
Speaker 2: stretch for the the Ravens and the Rams. So I
Speaker 2: don't think they're gonna I think they'll make the playoffs.
Speaker 2: I don't think they're gonna have any chance of a
Speaker 2: one seed, and I don't think they're gonna have any
Speaker 2: type of playoff success. But because of that division, I
Speaker 2: still believe in them that they're gonna have a successful year.
Speaker 2: All Right, what's next? So I'll bet the under one
Speaker 2: and three. I got it, Yeah, you got it a
Speaker 2: gambling expert. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So of course Lebron's extension made it to the show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, still talking about it. Go ahead.
Speaker 5: Ron and the Lakers have agreed on a new contract.
Speaker 5: The two year extension includes a twenty twenty four or
Speaker 5: twenty twenty five season player option. Yeah, that of course
Speaker 5: is when Bronni could potentially be in the league.
Speaker 2: You said he shouldn't do a deal early. Yep.
Speaker 5: Do you think he resigned just to solidify the player
Speaker 5: option in two in the twenty twenty four to twenty
Speaker 5: five seasons.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think you would have resigned without it.
Speaker 2: But I don't think because he would have had the
Speaker 2: ultimate player option a year from now, which is free agency,
Speaker 2: and he could have then just signed a one year
Speaker 2: deal anywhere. I was shocked by this news. To be clear,
Speaker 2: I made it very clear that I thought there was
Speaker 2: no upside to Lebron resigning. The only upside is, oh,
Speaker 2: if he suffers a career ending injury. That way he
Speaker 2: gets the ninety seven million. And with respect to ninety
Speaker 2: seven million dollars, that's not moving the needle for Lebron.
Speaker 2: I know he is trying to buy a team, so
Speaker 2: every dollar matter is because you need billions, and he's
Speaker 2: at a little over a billion plus. But still the
Speaker 2: financial security I do not believe was the reason he
Speaker 2: did it, I believe, And the other part of it
Speaker 2: was I thought there was a chance, even if you
Speaker 2: want to stay with the Lake, he would do it
Speaker 2: for less the reason.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 5: What were you going to say, no, no, no, I
Speaker 5: think because you were saying that he didn't do it
Speaker 5: for the money. I think I thought you were going
Speaker 5: to go on to say that he did it because
Speaker 5: Kyrie Irving is going to the Lakers.
Speaker 2: Well, you're almost right. I believe that the discussions were
Speaker 2: between Rich Rich, Paul, Rob Blink and Lebron were this, guys,
Speaker 2: what are we going to do to make this team better?
Speaker 2: All the media reports are you won't trade those future
Speaker 2: draft picks to bring in Kyrie, or if Kyrie ends
Speaker 2: up not being available, I think he will be do
Speaker 2: something something else. And I think what Rob Blinka said is, well,
Speaker 2: we can't trade our entire future if we think Lebron
Speaker 2: might leave in eight months, that would be poor management.
Speaker 2: If you guys commit to us that we have at
Speaker 2: a minimum, instead of one more year of Lebron, a
Speaker 2: minimum of two more year years of Lebron, because that's
Speaker 2: all this guarantees because of the player option, then we
Speaker 2: will commit to you if the right trades available, the
Speaker 2: twenty seven and the twenty nine first round picks are
Speaker 2: on the board. Does that make sense because that's the
Speaker 2: only reason I could I could come up with as
Speaker 2: to why Lebron would agree to this is that they
Speaker 2: told him, if you agree to this, then we will
Speaker 2: go all in on year twenty for you, which I
Speaker 2: don't think Lakers will win the title, and as presidently concer,
Speaker 2: they can't win the title. But if in Lebron's twentieth season,
Speaker 2: he not only passes Kaream up Little Jabbar in all
Speaker 2: time scoring, which is going to happen midway through this year,
Speaker 2: but does it while playing at an all NBA level,
Speaker 2: which he obviously did last year, and somehow the team
Speaker 2: were to win the title, and it's the title that
Speaker 2: breaks the tide with the Celtics for most titles in
Speaker 2: franchise history. If that all were to happen, then the
Speaker 2: goat debate becomes afterthought. Then it becomes can you believe
Speaker 2: people were still arguing about so? But they can't. They
Speaker 2: do not have enough to win the title this year
Speaker 2: unless they add a true difference maker, which they're not
Speaker 2: going to be able to do without getting rid of
Speaker 2: one or maybe both those future picks. All right, that's
Speaker 2: a big media block. We might haven't even longer b block.
Speaker 2: This might be the longest show we've ever done. But
Speaker 2: that's fine. I'm excited to be back. Take quick break,
Speaker 2: come back. I said I wouldn't even talk about the vacation,
Speaker 2: and I'm not. But what I guess I am briefly here.
Speaker 2: What I am gonna say is anybody that is interested
Speaker 2: in history, I cannot imagine. Now. I've never been to
Speaker 2: Greece and I haven't been to Egypt, so those would
Speaker 2: be the only and I guess, you know what, also
Speaker 2: parts of China. I guess those would be the mount
Speaker 2: Rushmore of historical places to visit, along with Rome. But
Speaker 2: the youngest buildings in world are one hundred and fifty years.
Speaker 2: The oldest are more than two thousand. And the scale
Speaker 2: of what these people were doing two thousand years ago.
Speaker 2: Everyone talked about the costume and the costumes unbelievable. The pantheon.
Speaker 2: I cannot put into words how jaw dropping it is.
Speaker 2: And the other thing that I did, Nicole, you know,
Speaker 2: your mom's best friend who was with us, pointed this
Speaker 2: out and it was my mom I think also mentioned it.
Speaker 2: The part that's impossible to conceptualize is how many goddamn
Speaker 2: sculptors lived in one place, because every every building the
Speaker 2: front of it has these perfectly done marble sculptures, and
Speaker 2: it's like, how how many? How many of these people
Speaker 2: had this talent? It is. It is as as remarkable
Speaker 2: a place as I've ever been to in my life.
Speaker 2: I also say this quickly, uh, and I'm Italian and
Speaker 2: I hate say it. The food was unbelievable. I thought
Speaker 2: the food in Barcelona was better. Okay, I thought Barcelona
Speaker 2: was the best food city I've ever been to. Rome
Speaker 2: is a close second, but history wise, nothing comes close.
Speaker 2: All right, are you ready to go? I'm ready to go.
Speaker 2: All right, what are we we're starting? What are we
Speaker 2: starting with? Here? We're gonna start.
Speaker 4: We talked a little bit about this yesterday. So I
Speaker 4: took an uber.
Speaker 2: Oh good, I'm glad. This would be a good little
Speaker 2: ramp before you get back to the sports. Go ahead.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so you displayed some distaste for that, not for
Speaker 5: you taking the uber? No, No, of course, no, no nothing, okay, sorry,
Speaker 5: let me go into the So I took a uber yesterday,
Speaker 5: and for the first time I noticed that they had
Speaker 5: like an option on there, or that I could pick
Speaker 5: if I wanted to have a conversation, I could change
Speaker 5: the temperature and everything. Yeah, but the one that stood
Speaker 5: out was picking either to have a conversation or that
Speaker 5: have there be no talking. Yeah, and I I had
Speaker 5: never noticed that until yesterday. You said it's been there
Speaker 5: for a while, but it seemed like you sort of
Speaker 5: had a problem.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, you hadn't noticed it until yesterday because I
Speaker 2: think you were accidentally taking expensive ubers, and you because
Speaker 2: I don't think it's an Because here's why this is
Speaker 2: so outrageous for a number of reasons. Let me make
Speaker 2: sure I'm right about this. For first of all, I
Speaker 2: do not believe it to be an option on Uber
Speaker 2: x so the cheapest Uber. If I were to get
Speaker 2: an Uber right now, I'm not going to actually get it,
Speaker 2: but I but I do that. Yeah, it's not an option.
Speaker 2: But if you do, like Uber black Suv, oh, it
Speaker 2: is an option. Okay, at least on my phone. Wow. So,
Speaker 2: first of all, it's saying if you're you know, paying
Speaker 2: extra will give you some perks. Choosing the temperature seems
Speaker 2: totally reasonable right, especially by the way, if you are
Speaker 2: paying extra. If you're paying extra, you're like, you know what,
Speaker 2: paying a lot of money for this ride. I would
Speaker 2: like it to be right like a private driver. If
Speaker 2: I'm going to pay a price of a private drive,
Speaker 2: I'd like it to be where the car is, the
Speaker 2: exact temperature I would like. And it also asks you
Speaker 2: do you have bags you need help with? So the
Speaker 2: driver knows to get out?
Speaker 6: You know what?
Speaker 2: Fine, you want to pay for that, no problem. The
Speaker 2: fact that there is an option that the driver sees
Speaker 2: on am I allowed to speak to this person is
Speaker 2: such an indictment on our inability as humans to interact
Speaker 2: with each other. By the way, I am not saying
Speaker 2: you have an obligation to talk to people. The take
Speaker 2: is not you must talk to your Uber drivers at
Speaker 2: all the time. Maybe you have a business call to make,
Speaker 2: maybe you just got terrible family news, Maybe you're just exhausted.
Speaker 2: Maybe you're the way I was when I would be
Speaker 2: in studio for first things first and some time i'd
Speaker 2: take the train sometimes take an uber back and I
Speaker 2: had just talked for three straight hours, and the last
Speaker 2: thing I want to do is have a conversation there,
Speaker 2: it is reasonable to be like, I don't want to
Speaker 2: talk right now, but it doesn't need to be clicked
Speaker 2: through on an app. Have a moment with another human being. Hey,
Speaker 2: thanks for the ride, no problem. Guys start chatting, respond
Speaker 2: to him and sir, I'm not trying to be rude.
Speaker 2: I've got a phone call to make. Sir, I'm not
Speaker 2: trying to be rude. I'm exhausted, and then that's it.
Speaker 2: But to have it be a button so I theoretically
Speaker 2: the point is I won't even have to look this
Speaker 2: guy in the eye. I'll never have to speak to him.
Speaker 2: It's so, it is, and it further tries to draw
Speaker 2: the line in the gig economy amongst people who use
Speaker 2: the gig economy and people who service the gig economy.
Speaker 2: It's the same I understood on the door dash and
Speaker 2: seamless stuff.
Speaker 4: The no contact delivery.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if it was a health issue, But now people
Speaker 2: who are going to nightclubs maskless or doing it so
Speaker 2: they don't have to talk, so they don't have to
Speaker 2: interact with another human being. It's it is again. Our
Speaker 2: society is framed and it's hanging by a few threads
Speaker 2: of social norms and politeness, and we are just hacking
Speaker 2: away at those because you want to click a stupid button.
Speaker 2: So your Uber driver doesn't say so you live in
Speaker 2: New York, are you're visiting? Like, oh, I can't have
Speaker 2: that interaction, like, don't subject me to having to speak
Speaker 2: with another human being. It's dark, right, it's dark. It's outrageous.
Speaker 2: I hate that they added it. I think it's an
Speaker 2: indictment on everyone and anyone who uses that feature. I
Speaker 2: judge you again, I do not judge you. Tell your
Speaker 2: Uber driver. Matt uses it right now. Matt uses it.
Speaker 2: Our producer, Matt uses it. Matt's a bad six weeks
Speaker 2: from being an Uber driver. He uses it all right,
Speaker 2: oh himself and say, no chance, I got real. I
Speaker 2: got real frisky there when I say it's bad, six
Speaker 2: weeks away from that being his only job. My apologies, Matt.
Speaker 2: I was so shocked that you would use that.
Speaker 5: Feet if he were to have used it, he would.
Speaker 5: He told me the exact situation that he would have
Speaker 5: used it in. Yeah, and I definitely I understood.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna go ahead and say there's one person
Speaker 2: on our show that I think uses it. Gabe of course,
Speaker 2: lives in a palace by the has a gorgeous you
Speaker 2: know wife who I think look at him? You know,
Speaker 2: I said, I don't want to look at your house.
Speaker 4: Bro.
Speaker 2: You guys look at Gabe's background. They look at those paintings,
Speaker 2: look at the architecture, even the recess life. I mean,
Speaker 2: look at this. I mean this is that. Again. I
Speaker 2: didn't say Gabe would do it. I just said I
Speaker 2: use beautiful wife. Beautiful wife. Hello, uh the And I
Speaker 2: don't want to say by the way, we're off the
Speaker 2: rails and we'll get back to the sports quickly, or
Speaker 2: we'll quickly back to the sports. Funny story about when
Speaker 2: I met Gabe. Gabe and I worked together for like
Speaker 2: a year. And I'm not going to say Gabe's wife's
Speaker 2: name because it's not the public's business. But it's a
Speaker 2: it's a it's a name that could be a guy's
Speaker 2: or a girl's name, and it's I would say, it's
Speaker 2: more typically a guy's name, at least when I hear
Speaker 2: it that, I think of that. And Gabe mentioned her
Speaker 2: and I'd known him for like a year, and I'm like, man,
Speaker 2: I had no idea Gabe was gay. I was like
Speaker 2: this is like I was like, not that I didn't
Speaker 2: even care one way or the other, but usually you
Speaker 2: have like shot someone for a while, you get a
Speaker 2: feeling about it, and I and then I thought that
Speaker 2: for like another six months, and then I met her
Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh, it makes a little more sense.
Speaker 2: Now it's like, oh, okay, no. But so again, the
Speaker 2: point that I was making is I don't think anyone
Speaker 2: on this show would do it. But if I was
Speaker 2: having a draft and it was one person on the show,
Speaker 2: we have confirmation clicked the don't look me in the
Speaker 2: eyes petty uber driver. Yeah, definitely, it's not gonna be Nick.
Speaker 2: It's not gonna be Matt, it's not gonna be Victor.
Speaker 2: It's not gonna be on our amazing intern not intern.
Speaker 2: I apologize an amazing producer Kara who last night, uh
Speaker 2: found your screw win through podcast. Yeah, in the middle
Speaker 2: of Sunday night, working extra hours, Dave Gabe's drinking Sharton
Speaker 2: ad by the beach. All right, let's all right, let's
Speaker 2: get to the actual show.
Speaker 4: Sorry about that, Go ahead, all right, So back to
Speaker 4: the sports.
Speaker 5: Uh huh, you interrupted your vacation to make a tweet
Speaker 5: about Katie and Kyrie, you said, well, you think that
Speaker 5: the NBA twenty twenty two is Christmas schedule means that
Speaker 5: they will no longer.
Speaker 2: Be in Brooklyn.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 5: The last The latest rumor is that the Jalen Brown
Speaker 5: package is still the best offer on the table.
Speaker 2: Can you believe there's also a rumor now that the
Speaker 2: Grizzlies might be involved? There was a Ladies from very
Speaker 2: early this morning. Sham said that the Grizzlies might be involved,
Speaker 2: trying to include their picks. But go ahead, yep, picks.
Speaker 5: Can you believe you're still talking about Katie after his
Speaker 5: whole checkmate move.
Speaker 2: Oh no, of course I'm gonna keep talking about this
Speaker 2: because I think it's about the Nets. Sorry, Katie, No, listen,
Speaker 2: this is going to drag on. But Katie is going
Speaker 2: to get what he wants. He is going to get traded.
Speaker 2: There is no question in my mind that he is
Speaker 2: going to get traded. And there are three teams that
Speaker 2: from the very beginning, I said, and this is one
Speaker 2: of the things that frustrates me about sports media, will
Speaker 2: be totally candid. I ain't there are I ain't that
Speaker 2: some of the best sports media is barber shop talk. Right,
Speaker 2: The type of debate you have of the barber shop.
Speaker 2: But the distinguishing factor is supposed to be that those
Speaker 2: of us with a platform, okay, have a responsibility to
Speaker 2: be informed on what isn't isn't realistic. So the barbershop
Speaker 2: talk like all time greatest hypothetical things, whatever it is.
Speaker 2: When it comes to could Team X trade for player,
Speaker 2: why there is a level of I would not to
Speaker 2: be too extreme responsibility to actually tell the audience, well,
Speaker 2: here's what isn't is impossible. And there were three teams
Speaker 2: from the first day Katie demanded a trade that I
Speaker 2: said could check every box of what the Nets want back,
Speaker 2: and I'd be shocked if they don't get involved. Those
Speaker 2: three teams were the New Orleans Pelicans who were involved,
Speaker 2: the Boston Celtics, who are heavily involved, and the Memphis Grizzlies.
Speaker 2: And nobody was talking about the Pelicans. Now they are
Speaker 2: and now Shamsay and the Grizzlies are involved, because those
Speaker 2: were the three teams that could include a young All
Speaker 2: Star Ish player. Jaron Jackson, Jalen Brown, Brandon Ingram had
Speaker 2: their own picks and extra picks to include in the deal,
Speaker 2: and their young player was making enough money that you
Speaker 2: could make the salaries work. It's what the Miami trade
Speaker 2: never was going to be able to work because Bam
Speaker 2: couldn't be a part of the Sun's trade. Was the
Speaker 2: only chance that I was with eighton was what they wanted.
Speaker 2: Once he resigned, it was gone. The Warriors trade to me,
Speaker 2: financially and players wise, you could make that work. But
Speaker 2: it would just have been shocking if Katie would have
Speaker 2: signed up for them. So those to me, if I
Speaker 2: were those three teams, those are the I would be
Speaker 2: making calls to the nets, and by were the nets,
Speaker 2: I'd be like, these are the three teams that we
Speaker 2: should be keyed in on more than anything. And so yeah,
Speaker 2: I listen. I think that eventually this trade happens. I
Speaker 2: think it probably is to Boston. I made it very
Speaker 2: clear that I think the Pelicans are the right move.
Speaker 2: The problem for the Grizzlies, and I said it was
Speaker 2: Jaron Jackson Junior just had knee surgery, So how much
Speaker 2: does that hurt his value? Okay, we've got a lot
Speaker 2: more do this second, so let's just keep rolling, go
Speaker 2: ahead a.
Speaker 5: Lot more, and it's time for I think we've played
Speaker 5: this game one time maybe likely, maybe or what.
Speaker 2: It Okay, So Demandy's gonna lay out of a situation,
Speaker 2: and then I'm going to tell you it's likely this,
Speaker 2: it might be that, or what if it's this? All right,
Speaker 2: go ahead.
Speaker 5: UFC president Dana White claimed he was close to brokering
Speaker 5: a deal for the Raiders for Tom Brady and Gronk
Speaker 5: to go there before they signed with the Bucks. Gronk
Speaker 5: said it really did happen, but Joe Grudens John Gruden
Speaker 5: mixed the deal. Apparently Brady was already looking at houses
Speaker 5: in Vegas with BT. Do you think Brady was actually
Speaker 5: going to Vegas?
Speaker 2: Oh, I think it's likely. This is totally true. I
Speaker 2: think that it also then poor Derek Carr. But you
Speaker 2: remember Brady went on the shop and I don't know
Speaker 2: if it was Maverick or lebron some one of them
Speaker 2: asked him about it might have been pr and he
Speaker 2: said that there was a team out there that I
Speaker 2: thought was interesting me and then said they wanted to
Speaker 2: stick with their quarterback. And I said, you're gonna choose
Speaker 2: that mother over me?
Speaker 4: Wow?
Speaker 2: And that, and I don't think he was saying.
Speaker 4: A and B.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, connect the dots right, And I don't
Speaker 2: think he was saying it. The tone in my voice
Speaker 2: was probably a little misleading. I don't think he was
Speaker 2: saying it like that guy is a bad guy. He
Speaker 2: was saying it like I'm Tom Brady and he's not
Speaker 2: newly the player. I am right. It doesn't shock me
Speaker 2: at all that John Gruden would not want anyone on
Speaker 2: his team that is a bigger celebrity than him. Let's
Speaker 2: not get it twisted about why John Gruden didn't do this.
Speaker 2: It was not because he thought Derek Carr was better
Speaker 2: than Tom Brady. It was because the Raiders' success was
Speaker 2: going to have to be because of the brilliance of
Speaker 2: John Gruden. And it the he would cut off his
Speaker 2: nose to spite his face in that regard, like that's
Speaker 2: who he is. And so it doesn't shock me at
Speaker 2: all that he nixed it. And it what is a
Speaker 2: little interesting is it shows Brady was interested in coming
Speaker 2: to Mahomes's division. That is an interesting element of it
Speaker 2: that I know. But I think when he went to Tampa,
Speaker 2: a lot of us myself include, were like, well, yeah,
Speaker 2: they have this roster and these things a good coach.
Speaker 2: But it also is such a soft division. Carolina was
Speaker 2: a mess, Atlanta was trending down, and everyone knew that
Speaker 2: Drew Brees was going to retire very soon. So it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: you go from the AFC East, which is always easy,
Speaker 2: to this place, and you're going to be able to run.
Speaker 2: But we now know that he was thinking about Miami,
Speaker 2: which stays in the AFC East, go against New England,
Speaker 2: wanting to go to the Raiders, and I think that
Speaker 2: was a that would be the ultimate like all time
Speaker 2: goat checkmate, right, because keep in mind he hadn't, yes,
Speaker 2: he had beaten Mahomes in that playoff game with New England. However,
Speaker 2: the previous year, Mahomes had won the Super Bowl. Right,
Speaker 2: the playoff game against New England with the Chiefs went
Speaker 2: to overtime, Mahomes played great. He hadn't beaten Mahomes in
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl yet that was which was his new
Speaker 2: ultimate check thing. That the Bucks chief Super Bowl that
Speaker 2: year's first year in Tampa. It would have been an
Speaker 2: ultimate Oh, I'm going to the division of the guy
Speaker 2: that a lot on the media saying one day could
Speaker 2: be the goat, and I'm going to just start winning it.
Speaker 2: So I find the whole thing interesting. I'm not surprised
Speaker 2: that Gruden Nix did all right, what's next?
Speaker 4: Okay, go ahead?
Speaker 2: Oh wait, I didn't do it. Sorry, I didn't do
Speaker 2: the segment. I didn't do it right. So it's likely
Speaker 2: that this is exactly true. But maybe that Dana White
Speaker 2: is overstating his own importance in this, which is something
Speaker 2: Dana White is on brand for him. But what if
Speaker 2: Brady had gone there? Then you know what doesn't happen?
Speaker 2: If the Chiefs and the Raiders play in the playoffs,
Speaker 2: the Chiefs offensive line is not as banged up as
Speaker 2: it was in the Super Bowl. Mahomes kicks his ass,
Speaker 2: Mahomes wins back to back, and Brady and all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, like whoa that go? Well, Mahomes on his
Speaker 2: tail are retired? Yeah, who knows?
Speaker 4: And that's what if?
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. Sorry, I forgot how this segment worked.
Speaker 2: All right, what's next?
Speaker 5: Packer's head coach Matt Lafleur yep uh said quarterback Jordan
Speaker 5: Love is light years ahead of where he was last year.
Speaker 5: This undoubtedly offended Aaron Rodgers. He does tend to get
Speaker 5: a little sensitive. What was Matt Laflour Lafleur. Well, this,
Speaker 5: that one's weird. Matt mcflir, Matt Matt mufflir, laffloor floor.
Speaker 2: The reason it's weird is because you're adding, you're right,
Speaker 2: what was Matt Lafleur going for? There you go? There
Speaker 2: we go? Uh? First, he was going for his guys.
Speaker 2: You know I've been the coach of this team. We
Speaker 2: win thirteen games every year? Can people pronounce my name? Right?
Speaker 2: That's what he's going for, all right, It's likely he
Speaker 2: is simply trying to build up a bit of trade
Speaker 2: value for Jordan Love. It is likely that he simply
Speaker 2: wants Jordan Love to have some type of trade value
Speaker 2: if somebody's quarterback goes down, so they can recoup that pick.
Speaker 2: Because Love, with Rogers signing this new extension, Love's rookie
Speaker 2: contracts are gonna expire before he ever sees the field. Okay,
Speaker 2: so that's what's likely. But maybe, but maybe Jordan Love
Speaker 2: actually is light years ahead of where he was now.
Speaker 2: I think he threw I was in Rome, but I
Speaker 2: think he threw three picks in one of these preseason.
Speaker 4: Games, light years ahead of Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2: No, light years of where he was last year, not
Speaker 2: where I don't.
Speaker 4: Really understand why.
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers. Okay, but what if I agree with you
Speaker 2: there by the way, But what if this is not
Speaker 2: actually anything more than what a coach would normally do
Speaker 2: to try to build up his players. And because of
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers' own history here, we are reading too much
Speaker 2: into the impact it would have. With that said I
Speaker 2: you know, in years past, I would have thought, yeah,
Speaker 2: this might piss off Aaron. But Aaron, not the new Ayahuasca.
Speaker 2: I'm here for love. Aaron. Aaron has really convinced me
Speaker 2: that that that he's experimenting with hallucinogens has changed the
Speaker 2: way he looks at the world. I believe that I
Speaker 2: have heard it from him. Why are you laughing at me? No?
Speaker 4: Man, it's just you know what I mean, you're just
Speaker 4: saying that. I feel like you're just saying the guys
Speaker 4: he's high.
Speaker 2: I don't think he's high right now. But okay, let's
Speaker 2: just do this quickly here. Once upon a time you
Speaker 2: oh jesus, no, just wait a moment. Don't get mad
Speaker 2: at me here, you don't get mad at me here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, exactly what you're about to start talking about
Speaker 5: ahead we're doing it quickly.
Speaker 2: We'll do it quickly once upon a time demands with
Speaker 2: some friends in a safe, controlled environment what I would
Speaker 2: call micro doos some not ayahuasca, but similar. This isn't
Speaker 2: the schlitterbond thing you were talking about noone else. And
Speaker 2: I saw you the next day and you were a
Speaker 2: more call it, open and loving person than I had
Speaker 2: seen you in a very long time. And it clearly
Speaker 2: that experience had opened your eyes in your heart to something.
Speaker 2: And since then I watched a whole show called Seven
Speaker 2: Perfect Strangers about micro dosing psilocybin, and now that show's
Speaker 2: about like seeing dead people kind of. But there is
Speaker 2: some science behind these types of drugs activating part of
Speaker 2: your brain that then has lasting effects long after you're high.
Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying. I wasn't trying to put your
Speaker 2: business out in the street. I'm just saying I had
Speaker 2: some first hand experience with it, plus research about it,
Speaker 2: plus the contemporary pop culture anou love it, plus Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2: I do think. So I guess the what if? What
Speaker 2: if we all should go to Peru and take ayahuasca?
Speaker 2: That's the what if? All right?
Speaker 5: What's the next after a very eventful offseason. Zach Wilson
Speaker 5: got hurt in the first game of the preseason. Yeah,
Speaker 5: after a bad rookie season, He's already gonna miss time
Speaker 5: in his second season. What does the future hold for
Speaker 5: Zach Wilson on and off the field?
Speaker 2: All right? Before I answered, can we get Gabe back
Speaker 2: on the show? Or did he leave because I insulted
Speaker 2: him so much? If Gabe's back on the show, I
Speaker 2: would love to get Gabe our you know, resident Jets fan,
Speaker 2: his take on this, because I have a I want
Speaker 2: to see where you're at, Gabe on Zach first, you know,
Speaker 2: if I may, what was your optimism Zach Wilson before
Speaker 2: this preseason started, and what was your reaction to the injury?
Speaker 6: You said that Matt has about six bad weeks before
Speaker 6: uber is his only option, and I would have said
Speaker 6: Zach's number was about three. So I've never been believed.
Speaker 6: I'm still not a believer.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So this is my concern. I had
Speaker 2: real questions about Zach Wilson coming out of college. I also,
Speaker 2: and this isn't exactly how probabilities work, but in my
Speaker 2: head they kind of do. I look at last year's
Speaker 2: draft class. I'm like, Okay, I believe Trevor Lawrence is
Speaker 2: going to be a star. He hasn't shown it yet,
Speaker 2: but I believe in that Trey Lance, we haven't seen
Speaker 2: anything yet. I think he's going to be good. Mac
Speaker 2: Jones at the very least is going to be competent. Right,
Speaker 2: There is no There's never been a draft class in
Speaker 2: history where all of the first round picks when you
Speaker 2: have that many of them hit and there's always at
Speaker 2: least one when there's three plus first round quarterbacks, huge bust.
Speaker 2: Right like with the year that Lamar went thirty two
Speaker 2: and Baker went one, and Josh Allen went sixth or seventh.
Speaker 2: Josh Rosen's mixed in there, and Mark Sanchez, not Mark Sanchez,
Speaker 2: the other Jets quarterback, the Sam pardon me, Sam Donald's
Speaker 2: mixed in there. Justin Fields has his work cut out
Speaker 2: for him. But Zach Wilson was the one that I
Speaker 2: was most confident this isn't gonna work, partially and partially
Speaker 2: because I didn't believe in Zach, and partially because some
Speaker 2: guys just go to the wrong team and their snake
Speaker 2: bit and it's just bad luck. Starting the rookie is
Speaker 2: second year off with a significant injury where he's going
Speaker 2: to miss time is the most devastating possible outcome for
Speaker 2: Jets fans. So it's likely that the Jets are again
Speaker 2: in the quarterback market two years from now that this
Speaker 2: year they're like, Ay, he started off hurt and whatever,
Speaker 2: and he had some flashes, and next year they give
Speaker 2: him one more shot and they're done with him. Similar
Speaker 2: with Donald's. Okay, that's likely. But maybe he escaped injury
Speaker 2: and significant injury and because he had some moments last year,
Speaker 2: he puts it together and has a promising season. I
Speaker 2: think that's incredibly unlikely. But what if Zach Wilson, I
Speaker 2: do not believe this is gonna happen, takes the embarrassment
Speaker 2: of this summer with the thing involving cougar's and his
Speaker 2: mom's friend and all of that, and then the injury
Speaker 2: and uses it all to have the most improbable great
Speaker 2: season we've seen from a young quarterback in a decade.
Speaker 2: That's not gonna happen. I'm sorry, Jets fans, it's gonna
Speaker 2: be a long another decade.
Speaker 4: Okay, next, leave it leave that an open take.
Speaker 2: Yeah you chet.
Speaker 5: Holmgren appeared to injure his ankle after attempting to defend
Speaker 5: Lebron on a layup. Yeah, this is the guy who's
Speaker 5: supposed to be a generational defensive prospect.
Speaker 2: Is this a big deal? Okay, it's it's not. It's
Speaker 2: likely that this is just bad luck. Okay, it's And
Speaker 2: I know everyone expects me to crush chat here. It's
Speaker 2: likely this is at a gym with a slippery floor
Speaker 2: because they ended up canceling the game midway through. Lebron
Speaker 2: is two hundred and seventy five pounds. It's not like
Speaker 2: the thing is this, It's like, Oh, if Lebron does
Speaker 2: that to him, think of think of what. There's not
Speaker 2: a lot of other guys in the league that they
Speaker 2: are going to do that. It's likely there's just bad luck.
Speaker 2: But maybe it is absolutely a sign of what I
Speaker 2: am concerned about, which is the guy's biggest strength right now.
Speaker 2: This moment is supposed to be his defense. And yes,
Speaker 2: he is going to be able to get to block
Speaker 2: shots from places other guys can't. But when it comes
Speaker 2: to guys bodying into him, he is going to he
Speaker 2: is going to cause such little resistance and it is
Speaker 2: going to have such a little ill effect on their
Speaker 2: ability to finish as long as they can handle the
Speaker 2: contact and knock him away. But maybe this is a sign.
Speaker 2: And but what if.
Speaker 4: What if he gets freaking jecked?
Speaker 2: Okay, well that's not what I was gonna say. I
Speaker 2: don't know. Sure, let me my take on the chet
Speaker 2: Homer and body size things very clear. There's two options.
Speaker 2: Neither's great. One is this guy who was a potential
Speaker 2: number one pick of the draft, was one of the
Speaker 2: top high school players in the country, has just chosen
Speaker 2: not to gain weight. That's an indictment on work ethic.
Speaker 2: Everyone says that's not true. The other option is he
Speaker 2: really wants to gain weight, he knows it's his biggest weakness,
Speaker 2: maybe only weakness, and can't do it. That's even more
Speaker 2: concerning the If you got a kid in school who's
Speaker 2: getting DS on all his tests and it's because he's
Speaker 2: playing video games all night, that's one thing. If you
Speaker 2: have a kid in school who every time you come
Speaker 2: home is studying and every time you had all his
Speaker 2: homework done, and he's asking you for help he's getting
Speaker 2: DS on tests, you got a different type of problem there,
Speaker 2: and so and so like it's almost the working hard
Speaker 2: and not succeeding is a problem that what if I
Speaker 2: was going to say is what if and this is
Speaker 2: the biggest concern, has to drastically adjust the way he
Speaker 2: plays in a way he's not comfortable with because he
Speaker 2: can't sustain the contact because he will get hurt or
Speaker 2: banged up or Nixon bruises where other guys wouldn't. So
Speaker 2: he can't play free the way he wants to and
Speaker 2: instead has to change things. That's the most biggest concern. So, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't think this is what I thought was a
Speaker 2: bigger deal. Was the guy who will never play a
Speaker 2: minute in the NBA. I don't remember Kenny Lofton something
Speaker 2: I think was his name, Ken Junior Senior one of them. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was some, but he wasn't the kid of the
Speaker 2: baseball player with the name Kenny Lofton. That guy bodying
Speaker 2: Jet Lebron does that to a lot of people. But
Speaker 2: it is a concern, all right, what's last now?
Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson said he is putting a week one a
Speaker 5: week one deadline on contract negotiations with Baltimore. Apparently, the
Speaker 5: Ravens have already made a huge offer, at least one
Speaker 5: and John Harball said the deal will get done when
Speaker 5: it gets done.
Speaker 4: Why is it taking so long?
Speaker 2: Well, I think much. It's likely that the Deshaun Watson
Speaker 2: contract is screwed things up for everyone trying to get
Speaker 2: deals done, similar to how the Rudy Gobert trade has
Speaker 2: screwed up the NBA trade markets. When Rudy Gobert goes
Speaker 2: for five first round picks, if you're trading Donovan Mitchell,
Speaker 2: you want six. If you're trading Kevin Durant, you want seven.
Speaker 2: Guy is when Deshaun Watson, it's a fully guaranteed deal.
Speaker 2: Lamar says, uh, I've won so many playoff games, Sshaan Watson.
Speaker 2: I have a league MVP. I have no off field
Speaker 2: concern I'm not on a second team. Why would I
Speaker 2: not get a fully deal. The Ravens understandably don't want
Speaker 2: to give him a fully guaranteed deal. I love Lamar.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to give fully guaranteed deal. The guy
Speaker 2: needs to hire an agent, of course, so it's likely
Speaker 2: that this doesn't get done, and it doesn't get done
Speaker 2: because he doesn't have someone telling him. Lamar, We've got
Speaker 2: to do a cost benefit analysis here. Yes, you might
Speaker 2: be right in principle that if Deshaun got this, you
Speaker 2: should get more. But they're offering you reportedly more than
Speaker 2: Kyler got in total money and guarantees. Okay, Is it
Speaker 2: worth fighting for the principle of this other thing rather
Speaker 2: than locking in what will be lifetime financial security of
Speaker 2: one hundred plus million dollars. You haven't made that much
Speaker 2: money yet. I understanding he's got good endorsements. I think
Speaker 2: he was the first round picker who was the last
Speaker 2: pick of the first round. And I don't know how
Speaker 2: Lamar spends his day to day life. I know this
Speaker 2: as someone that buys some expensive jewelry. Lamar has spent
Speaker 2: a lot of money on jewelry, okay, and that if
Speaker 2: you have one hundred million guaranteed, that's not an issue
Speaker 2: at all. If you have eight million guaranteed on a
Speaker 2: five year Let me see what Lamar's rookie contract was, So, Lamar,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna look it up real quick, apologize for not
Speaker 2: having in front of me. So Lamar's initial contract with
Speaker 2: the Ravens was four years, nine million bucks. This year
Speaker 2: he's going to make twenty three million, okay, So that
Speaker 2: twenty three million is guaranteed and that that obviously takes
Speaker 2: care of a lot of the things. But you can
Speaker 2: go through that. Absolutely, you can go through twenty million
Speaker 2: as a pro athlete easy. I would be telling him,
Speaker 2: lock in the one hundred plus million. It's a good franchise.
Speaker 2: They built it around you do all this. It's likely
Speaker 2: if he had an agent this would have been done right.
Speaker 2: But maybe even if he didn't have an agent, he
Speaker 2: would or even if he had an agent, he'd be saying, no,
Speaker 2: I want I am the next guy up. I'm better
Speaker 2: than the other guys who've gotten paid. You're going to
Speaker 2: pay me that. And where Lamar does have some leverages,
Speaker 2: they've built the team around his particular skill set so
Speaker 2: much that if they lose him, they are so screwed,
Speaker 2: more so than other teams will lose their If you
Speaker 2: have just a traditional quarterback, you built a traditional team.
Speaker 2: Who's that guy? You still need a quarterback? But it's
Speaker 2: different in this. But what if he is able to
Speaker 2: do what Dak did, which is play out the deal,
Speaker 2: get franchised or I'm sorry, better example than what Dak did,
Speaker 2: what Kirk Cousins did, which is get franchise tagged twice
Speaker 2: and then have never be able to be franchise tagged again,
Speaker 2: which has allowed Cousins to sign the greatest contracts in
Speaker 2: the NFL history get for a player of his caliber.
Speaker 2: So there is a chance if Lamar stays healthy, then
Speaker 2: he will have played this exactly right and will make
Speaker 2: more money than anybody ever because he'll always take short,
Speaker 2: fully guaranteed deals, keep hitting free ency as a quarterback.
Speaker 2: No one else, no one will be able to franchise
Speaker 2: tag again. But it is. I'm a gambler, and that's
Speaker 2: a risk I wouldn't be willing to take. Okay, I
Speaker 2: told you today's show is going to go long. This
Speaker 2: is going to be our longest show ever. We have
Speaker 2: a final block where there's an allegation of theft that
Speaker 2: must be addressed. We'll do it next. We'll trade all right,
Speaker 2: welcome back in final segment. What's right? Nick? Right? I'm
Speaker 2: glad we went along today because allowed us to be
Speaker 2: recording right. When Baker Mayfield was officially announced the starting
Speaker 2: quarterback for the Carolina Panthers, this to me is actually
Speaker 2: not a huge story. There was any Once the Panthers
Speaker 2: traded for him, he was the starter, and it's not
Speaker 2: because Baker's some unimpeachably great quarterback. It's because Sam Donald
Speaker 2: over the last two years has been the single worst
Speaker 2: quarterback in football. Sam Donald of the last two years
Speaker 2: is ranked forty fourth or worse amongst starting quarterbacks in
Speaker 2: every major category. There's only thirty two teams. Okay, so
Speaker 2: Donald was never going to be the starter. Baker was
Speaker 2: going to be the starter. So Baker's the starter. I'm
Speaker 2: glad we got that in there. Now. I want to
Speaker 2: discuss something because I got a tweet last night and
Speaker 2: the tweet read let me find it because it was
Speaker 2: sent to me, and then I sent it to our crew,
Speaker 2: so I want to give credit. Uh. This is from
Speaker 2: Zijan Kahn on Twitter at Bill Simmons had a segment
Speaker 2: on his podcast today playing the defense attorney for Kevin Durant,
Speaker 2: looking forward to hearing what Nick Wright has saved out
Speaker 2: that on his next show of What's Right. So I
Speaker 2: sent that to our group and Kara, who I inaccurately
Speaker 2: called an intern earlier. I apologize. I don't know why
Speaker 2: I did it. It's probably it would be totally honest,
Speaker 2: probably my own latent, you know, need sexism somewhere in
Speaker 2: my brain. I didn't mean to do that. Care I apologized,
Speaker 2: Kara did an amazing job, and within a half hour
Speaker 2: texted the group I found it. Thirty minutes into the episode,
Speaker 2: he said, it's a new segment. I'm calling defense attorney
Speaker 2: and lays out the case for another thirty minutes and
Speaker 2: close out his argument by addressing the jerky. So now
Speaker 2: we can take the full shot. As you can see,
Speaker 2: we on this show have been doing something called Nick
Speaker 2: Wright Public Defender for a couple months now. We have props, bang,
Speaker 2: the gabble demands, he's wearing a wig, we have a
Speaker 2: gabbl we have all of it. So the question is
Speaker 2: do I think Bill Simmons stole this idea? And now,
Speaker 2: in a meta version of sports media breaking the fifth wall,
Speaker 2: I am going to play Nick Wright Public Defender defending
Speaker 2: Bill Simmons, Bill Simmons Defense Attorney. Segment, Ladies and gentlemen
Speaker 2: of the jury, is a very simple case. This is
Speaker 2: a case of reputation, history and an incredibly crowded media landscape.
Speaker 2: Does my client, mister Simmons, acknowledge that it is very
Speaker 2: clear we have video evidence that the prosecution is shown
Speaker 2: you that yes, there's another podcast called What's Right with
Speaker 2: Nick Right that does a segment that is essentially exactly
Speaker 2: what my client did. Yes, there is, and the prosecution
Speaker 2: also showed you that my client, Bill Simmons follows Nick
Speaker 2: Right on social media. And the prosecution also showed you
Speaker 2: that my client, Bill Simmons has a longstanding, very close
Speaker 2: relationship with a man named Kevin Wilds, who is one
Speaker 2: of Nick Wright's co hosts on television, and they have
Speaker 2: built what appears to be a very compelling, but superficial
Speaker 2: and totally speculative case that my client, a man who
Speaker 2: sold a media company for over one hundred million dollars,
Speaker 2: a man who is universally acknowledged as the first major
Speaker 2: successful sports podcaster in the world, and a man whose
Speaker 2: podcast is still the most listened to sports podcast in
Speaker 2: the world, stole something. As opposed to the far more
Speaker 2: likely explanation, which is that two smart people had similar
Speaker 2: ideas and were unaware of what the other person was doing.
Speaker 2: My client, Bill Simmons, is running a company, running an empire,
Speaker 2: some would say, And while he testified that he does
Speaker 2: have affection and holds Nick Wright in high regard, is
Speaker 2: it fair to say he possibly does not have the
Speaker 2: What's Right show on his daily podcast listens. Is it
Speaker 2: possible that, much like we have demonstrated, Nick Wright once
Speaker 2: upon a time was accused of stealing a catchphrase about
Speaker 2: the Brooklyn Nets, calling them the Bitcoin of the NBA,
Speaker 2: an idea and NFT. Nick Wright was accused of stealing
Speaker 2: that from actually another friend of Bill Simmons, won Dave Jacoby.
Speaker 2: And what prosecution didn't tell you is Nick and mister
Speaker 2: Jacoby discussed that after the fact, and mister Jacoby totally
Speaker 2: took Nick at his word that the exact thing that
Speaker 2: happened here happened there. Two smart creative people had similar ideas.
Speaker 2: Now there is a third party that is the connective
Speaker 2: tissue between Nick allegedly stealing from Jacoby and Bill allegedly
Speaker 2: stealing from Nick. That person does happen to be Kevin Wilds,
Speaker 2: who has worked with all parties, his friends with All Parties,
Speaker 2: produced a television show for Dave Jacoby, is on Bill
Speaker 2: Simmons podcast, and works with Nick Wright. So is it
Speaker 2: further possible that in relationships discussions that Kevin Wilde's unintentionally
Speaker 2: unknowingly seeded ideas or thoughts into the brains of Nick Wright,
Speaker 2: Dave Jacoby, Bill Simmons just in passing references that similar
Speaker 2: to the movie Inception, which you know the accuser, Nick
Speaker 2: Wright has a very you know, maybe asked him after
Speaker 2: the show media about seeing the inception with his son,
Speaker 2: a young son, Demonse, and what Nick Write's mental state
Speaker 2: was at the time. See if you want to believe
Speaker 2: that he is the most upstanding member of the community,
Speaker 2: but we don't. We're not here to defame him. We're
Speaker 2: here to defend or thank you that inceptioned ideas into brains.
Speaker 2: Or is it possible that it's just hey as fun
Speaker 2: and funny as the Nick Wright public defender bit is,
Speaker 2: it's not exactly reinventing the wheel, it's just defending an
Speaker 2: unpopular take and giving it a name.
Speaker 5: Okay, so there's there's often sense that he missed the
Speaker 5: public defender segments.
Speaker 2: I would say, it's overwhelming your honor, and we have
Speaker 2: submitted inde evidence Bill Simmons phone, and you can you
Speaker 2: can scrape the metadata and what you will see, what
Speaker 2: you will not see. Pardon me is a subscription to
Speaker 2: the What's Right Show. We know that hurts nick rights feelings.
Speaker 2: Who thinks the entire world is subscribed to it. My client, unfortunately,
Speaker 2: is not. So while the two segments are incredibly similar,
Speaker 2: there was no theft here. This was just two smart
Speaker 2: people who had the same idea. Your honor, I rest
Speaker 2: my case, bang the gabble. I think people are shocked
Speaker 2: that that was my That's the route I took there.
Speaker 2: That's what I truly believe. I do know't the Simmons
Speaker 2: ain't stealing nothing from me. This is and by the way,
Speaker 2: I couldn't. Now I will, I will after doing a
Speaker 2: full defensive Bill, I will make him a little angry.
Speaker 2: I did this morning. Try to listen to it, and
Speaker 2: I made it. Carras said it was thirty minutes. I
Speaker 2: got through the first twenty two minutes of it, and
Speaker 2: I love Bill's podcast. But then in his defensive Kevin Durant,
Speaker 2: he tried to make a case that Katie going to
Speaker 2: the Warriors was similar to Lebron going back to the
Speaker 2: Caves who had just had the number one pick three
Speaker 2: or four years. So I turned it off. I was like,
Speaker 2: I can't do with the Lebron slander. Bill. I can't.
Speaker 2: But I don't think he stole anything from me. All right, Shit,
Speaker 2: to wrap the show. Should I tell the Inception story
Speaker 2: or not? Oh? Since I already referenced in a drug
Speaker 2: use story from you, should I tell it?
Speaker 4: I was about to say it, Hey man, you might
Speaker 4: as well.
Speaker 2: All right, if people of this podcast over an hour long,
Speaker 2: if people made it here, they deserve this. What your
Speaker 2: did Inception come out? I gotta look it up. Twenty No,
Speaker 2: gotta be or twenty ten. Twenty ten? Okay, So your
Speaker 2: mom and I are just dating at the time, we're
Speaker 2: not even engaged. We live in Kansas City. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: I really want and this was back when I smoked
Speaker 2: weed and I really wanted to see Inception. So twenty ten,
Speaker 2: you were eleven years Yeah, eleven years old, and there
Speaker 2: was a movie theater walking distance from our apartment in
Speaker 2: Kansas City. So Demanse and I walk to see Inception
Speaker 2: and we get there and we get there early, buy food,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh, I got to use the bathroom
Speaker 2: and I went outside. I smoked a little weed because
Speaker 2: I'm about to see Inceptions. Yeah, I'm there with the
Speaker 2: base from the movie ends and it's hard to follow
Speaker 2: if you're an adult. He's eleven and we I'm like,
Speaker 2: did you like it. He was like, that was I
Speaker 2: think the worst and me just ripped. I was just slabbering.
Speaker 2: Me just ripped. I'm like, really, I thought it was unbelievable.
Speaker 2: And mon say, obviously at the time, had no idea.
Speaker 2: And then I told you the truth about this a
Speaker 2: few years ago.
Speaker 5: Man, because I could have stayed at home, dude, Like,
Speaker 5: I was, no, Man, you gonna go in there and
Speaker 5: get faded and have me watch this freaking Star trek
Speaker 5: Ass movie.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like, what the hell am I doing here right now?
Speaker 2: Man? That was not my proudest moment. Oh god. I
Speaker 2: was twenty five. I didn't really know what I was doing.
Speaker 2: I was trying to make it work. Uh, And I
Speaker 2: you know, again, I'm not that super proud of it,
Speaker 2: but it is what it is, and that movie was unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Was unbelievable. We'll talk to you guys on Thursday.