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I was like, he knows that I didn't. 25 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 2: I was rational. 26 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 4: People story, you know, I apologize. No, it's farm, it's farm. 27 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 4: I definitely. 28 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 5: I mean you did, like in fairness, you did say 29 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 5: something about it a couple of times. 30 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 2: It's all but I mean, but it was also like 31 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 2: ninety seconds, pay what. I apologize for that. It was 32 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 2: good to see you. I really missed you. Damn it. 33 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 2: My hair is a disaster. 34 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 4: We're just gonna roll with it, kind of like a 35 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 4: John Wick thing going on this. 36 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know I got it. I gotta get it together. 37 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: But I almost got my hair cut in Italy, that 38 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: style that I showed you, I almost got it cut. 39 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 2: But because it's like an Italian hair style. 40 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 5: Can I ask the question, Yeah, how many drinks have 41 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 5: you had had when you were thinking about it? 42 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 2: Oh? I was stone sober. I wasn't stone sober and 43 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 2: most of the trip, but in that moment, I was 44 00:01:58,160 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: in your mom and I walked down to the guy. 45 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 2: But then she didn't trust it. Yeah, it was like 46 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 2: she was like, no, you gotta have a black guy 47 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 2: cut your hair. I'm like, this is an Italian hairstyle. 48 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 4: You have to see. I've actually got a funny story 49 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 4: about that. 50 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 5: But you've got to see who gets out of the chair, Like, 51 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 5: I feel like you have to watch him cut somebody's hair. 52 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 4: And you've got a haircut since our last This was 53 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 4: not intentional. 54 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 2: Well, the haircut was intentional. The length of the haircut 55 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,679 Speaker 2: was not intention of course. Yeah got the hair. It 56 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 2: didn't accidentally do like I thought I was an applebee? 57 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 2: What are you doing? All right? Welcome in another episode 58 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 2: What's Right? Nick Right? The podcast and YouTube show. One 59 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 2: special announcement. This is going to be the only place 60 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 2: you can get me audio video for at least the 61 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 2: rest of this week. I don't know if I'm suposed 62 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: to say this or not, maybe slightly longer. Now. The 63 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 2: internet rumors of the demise of First Things First, not 64 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 2: only are they greatly exaggerated, they're flatly wrong. However, we 65 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 2: do have an important I can't call announcement, but an 66 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 2: important thing that is happening with first things first, it 67 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 2: might have to do with where the show is shot 68 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 2: from without revealing too much, and because of that, we're 69 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: going to be off the air temporarily as all those 70 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 2: things get going. So if you're watching this, if you're 71 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 2: listening to this for at least the rest of this week, 72 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 2: maybe a tiny bit bleeding in the next week, this 73 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 2: is the place to find me. Plus on Twitter of course, 74 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 2: but this is really it. I am so excited. What 75 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 2: I'm not going to do is what people do when 76 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 2: they come off vacation in media, which is start the 77 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 2: show's talking about their vacation. I went to Rome. It 78 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 2: was amazing. The history is unlike anything I've ever seen. 79 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 2: The rest of that check my Instagram stories. All right, now, 80 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 2: we will get the show going the way we always 81 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 2: do by discussing what we are not discussing on today's show. 82 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 2: Here is what did not make the cut for our 83 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 2: return show of What's Right with the Game of Thrones return? 84 00:03:58,120 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 2: That has not made the cut for a number of reasons, 85 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 2: most notably I have not yet watched it. That is 86 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 2: a show I watched with my wife. My wife just 87 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 2: a total soldier nine days in Rome, partying almost every 88 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,839 Speaker 2: night late into the night, flies back to New York 89 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 2: and just goes out. She and her best friend Nicole, 90 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 2: who is here with us. They're like, Hey, it's Harlem Day. 91 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 2: We're going to a concert. I'm like, you're going to 92 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 2: a concert. It was unbelievable Shack calling Steph the best 93 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 2: in the world. I don't know that. It's not that. 94 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 2: I don't know that I agree with that. I definitely 95 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 2: disagree with that. It's Jannest But all these like current rankings, 96 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:35,559 Speaker 2: all time rankings, the still of Steph behind KD strike 97 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 2: me as a little odd. And the Ravens win an 98 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:43,359 Speaker 2: incomprehensible twenty second straight preseason game. I believe in that streak. 99 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 2: They are seventeen four and one against the spread. You 100 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 2: know what they say, good teams win, great teams cover. 101 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 2: We will discuss that on the Gambling Show if the 102 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 2: Gambling Show gets rolling when the preseason is still going on, 103 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 2: which is unlikely, but it is the type of thing 104 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 2: we would discuss on the Gambling Show. Demansey, I don't 105 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 2: know if you can tell. I am very excited to 106 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 2: be back on the air. Yeah. I have so many 107 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 2: takes built up inside of me, like like a chamber. 108 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 2: That's overflowing. So let's get going. What are we starting with? 109 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 4: All right, Deshaun Watson's official suspension. 110 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 2: All right, so we're starting with just a laugher of 111 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 2: a topic going on. 112 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 4: Official suspension is eleven games. 113 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 5: Yep, he will be fine five million dollars, but he 114 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 5: will be back for the final playoff push yep. 115 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 4: What's your reaction to this final suspension? 116 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 2: I think that Listen. As I've said before, and I'll 117 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 2: say it very quickly, there was no amount of games 118 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 2: that was going to feel right. And by that, I 119 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 2: mean if he didn't do it, he should get zero games. 120 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 2: If he did it, and you're talking about two dozen 121 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 2: plus cases of credibly or credible cases of alleged sexual misconduct, 122 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 2: One season is not enough. Two seasons feels like now, 123 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 2: I don't know, that's like, you know, a game and 124 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 2: a half per accuser. So there was never you were 125 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 2: never going to be able to thread the needle. But 126 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 2: we always knew six was not enough. From a purely 127 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 2: cold perspective, what's best for the NFL and best for 128 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 2: the Browns, it was that the suspension ind this year 129 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 2: because then the storyline ends this year. If they would 130 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 2: have suspended him the entire season. Then the entire saga 131 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 2: of Deshaun's return his first game with the Browns is 132 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 2: now a story in the vacuum of next offseason when 133 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 2: people are looking for things to discuss. I found it 134 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 2: odd that they did eleven and not twelve, because that 135 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 2: now lets him come back for the Texans game, and 136 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 2: so there's gonna be a lot of media attention surrounding 137 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 2: that because their twelfth game of the season is the 138 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 2: Texans game. I, however, do not believe there will be 139 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 2: a playoff push for the Browns. I don't what does 140 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 2: their record need to be in order for them to 141 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 2: be a credible playoff contender seven and four after eleven games. 142 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 2: Some people might say six and five. But the the 143 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 2: other element of this, and this is to me the 144 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 2: more I guess unique opinion is I think the Browns 145 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 2: fans and management are going to look back on this 146 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 2: trade as such an absolute football disaster, not just to 147 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 2: forget pr forget morality, forget all of those things from 148 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 2: a football perspective. Deshaun Watson did not play at all 149 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 2: last year. He is now not going to play for 150 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 2: the first three months of this year. He is an 151 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 2: incredibly talented player. With that said, we have seen a 152 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 2: team quarterbacked by Deshaun Watson that had deficiencies in other 153 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 2: areas Go four and twelve when he was the quarterback 154 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 2: for the full season. So what's my point there? Because 155 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 2: they're not going to be able to call it restock 156 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 2: their team through the draft the way they would otherwise 157 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 2: like to because of the trades and what they gave 158 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 2: up for him, because of the time off. Because of 159 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 2: all of that, and because the quarterbacking in the AFC 160 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 2: is now so overwhelming, I ain't the return on investment 161 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 2: from a pure football perspective is not going to be 162 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 2: what the Browns wanted. And because he wasn't suspended the 163 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 2: full year his kind. If he was suspended the full year, 164 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 2: his contract would toll, which means basically, would like freeze 165 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 2: in time and what should he should be paid in 166 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, he'd be paid in twenty twenty four, 167 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 2: so on and so forth. Because he's coming back this year, 168 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 2: that doesn't happen. The contract goes on its regular timeline, 169 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 2: So in twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four, twenty twenty five, 170 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 2: and twenty twenty six, just quickly. Deshaun Watson has either 171 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 2: the highest or the second highest cap hit of any 172 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 2: player in the sport all four years. So you don't 173 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 2: have your first round picks. You have the most expensive 174 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 2: quarterback in the sport who right now now might be 175 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 2: the fifth best quarterback in his own conference. And people 176 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 2: can say that's that's oh Nick, you're under selling him, Mahomes, Alan, 177 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 2: Herbert Burrow, Lamar, there's five. Now. You want to argue 178 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 2: Lamar over a couple of those guys, you can, But 179 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 2: you also could argue all of those guys over Lamar, 180 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 2: and that's before. Some people love Russell Wilson. I'm sorry 181 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 2: over Lamoar, Over to Shawn. Some people love Russell Wilson. 182 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 2: There's other people that could have been included. So I 183 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 2: the if I had to guess, I know I'm stepping 184 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 2: on what you were. I just looked at it. You 185 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 2: were going to ask me what the record was going 186 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:37,719 Speaker 2: to be. My apologies. Like I said, I got a 187 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 2: lot of. 188 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 4: Takes build up. 189 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 2: I'm ready to go. I think that the if you 190 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 2: look at the Browns through the first eleven games, what 191 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 2: are to me games they're definitely losing. To me, They're 192 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 2: definitely losing to the Chargers, to the Ravens, to the Bengals, 193 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 2: to the Bills, right to the Bucks. That's five. Those 194 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 2: aren't definite losses. Say say in those five games they 195 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 2: go one and four, then they the There are other 196 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 2: games are Panthers, Jets, Steelers, Patriots, Dolphins. So even if 197 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 2: they they're not gonna sweep those with Jacobe at quarterback. 198 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, I think six and five is 199 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 2: the best they can hope for. And I don't think 200 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 2: Deshaun is gonna come back after nearly two years off 201 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 2: and and just be awesome. There's gonna be some russ 202 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 2: there's gonna be all that. So I don't think it 203 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 2: will be a playoff push. I think the Browns fans 204 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 2: are already upset with this. I think they're gonna get 205 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 2: more upset. Okay, we good to move on. Let's move on. 206 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 2: Let's do it. 207 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 4: Uh. 208 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 5: Social social media lit up after Giants rookie Cavon Thibodeau 209 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 5: was Wow. 210 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 2: Well done, well done. You've really gotten good at that. 211 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 4: I mean, we're in Houston, Papado, I know the d A, 212 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:52,719 Speaker 4: the d e A. 213 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 2: Uh oh, you're right, but also you've just gotten really good. 214 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 2: You also didn't call them Thibodeaux. No, you did a 215 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 2: great job. 216 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 5: Okay, he will go ahead, he says, He's okay, But 217 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 5: it looks like a dirty play. 218 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 2: What do you think of the situation? Yeah, listen, I 219 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 2: think that that play. This is one of those I'm 220 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 2: gonna use a very tortured metaphor here. Okay, but just 221 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 2: follow me for a moment. If you have too much 222 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 2: to drink and you drive into a stop sign and 223 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 2: the person you were at dinner with had the exact 224 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 2: same amount of drinks as you did, the exact same weight, 225 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 2: they have the exact same level of intoxication, and they 226 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 2: drive into a bus stop with people standing there, your 227 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 2: penalties are going to obviously be greatly different, even though 228 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 2: your crimes were the same. It's because the result. We 229 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 2: are judging the result rather than the action. This, to 230 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 2: me is a vintage example of judging the result. And 231 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 2: I'm not trying to compare the block to drunk driving, 232 00:11:55,440 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 2: point being that block happens a dozen times again. The 233 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,599 Speaker 2: re the on that play, and I'm not trying to 234 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 2: get to x's and o's nerdy football, but on that play, 235 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 2: the tight ends job is to come across seal, that 236 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 2: outside linebacker or that pass rusher, that rushing player, and 237 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 2: to do that, they often go low. Football is an 238 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 2: inherently dangerous game with the league has decided and I 239 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 2: know it bothers the players sometimes, but the league is 240 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 2: rightfully decided we are going to penalize you for going high. 241 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 2: So and the players know we don't want you to 242 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 2: come at our you know, basically knee down. But now 243 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, the strike zone area is shrinking, 244 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 2: and if the if you're gonna get the penalty for 245 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 2: going high, you're gonna air on the side of low. Addition, 246 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 2: if you watch the play Thibodeau again, I want to 247 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 2: get two x's and no's on it doesn't play it great. 248 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 2: You see that play happen all the time in football. 249 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 2: And what you see is I remember guys used to 250 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 2: do this to JJ Wat all the time. And what 251 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 2: Watt was unbelievable at was keeping his hips parallel. Correct 252 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 2: what you're and put his hands down, keep it, get 253 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,359 Speaker 2: his hands there, keep his hip parallel to the sideline, 254 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 2: have his hands ready, and when the guy comes, he 255 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 2: almost would propel off the guy around him. Thibodeau at 256 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 2: the last second turns the other way, turns to where 257 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 2: instead of facing the sideline, he's facing the end line 258 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 2: and the guy and the guy by the way seemed 259 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 2: to be aiming at his hip and it slid down 260 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 2: and hit him in the knee. So I did not 261 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:36,719 Speaker 2: think it was a dirty play. I think it was 262 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 2: an unfortunate play, an inherently violent game. I also think 263 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 2: this play and the reaction to this play is further 264 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 2: evidence that social media is making everyone lose their minds, 265 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 2: and it is of all the concerns I have for 266 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 2: the few. Again, this going to seem hyperbolic, I don't 267 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 2: mean it too for the future of civilized society and 268 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 2: our ability to communicate, discuss, and interact with each other. 269 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 2: The reaction to this is another check in the column 270 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 2: of we might be screwed because nobody wants to operate 271 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 2: in anywhere in the gray. It was the my colleague 272 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 2: emmanuelaccho Is, I think the I don't know if he 273 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 2: was the first one who tweeted out, but his tweet 274 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 2: seems we will let's get the most attention. Called it 275 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 2: not only a dirty play, but a cowardly play. You 276 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 2: then had people lining up either saying, yep, the guy 277 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 2: who threw that block is a dirty player, guys trying 278 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 2: to make a football team. And then on the other hand, 279 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 2: you had guys lining up on the other side saying, 280 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 2: it's not even gray area. It is as clean. It's 281 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 2: the only way to play that when the answer probably 282 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 2: is yeah, I deally he goes six inches higher, and 283 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 2: ideally Thibodeau plays it a little smarter and ideally nobody 284 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 2: gets banged up there. But people are just so adamant. 285 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 2: And the other thing is and this is not my 286 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 2: original opinion, but it's one I espouse a lot because 287 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 2: I heard it seven years ago and it struck me 288 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 2: as so smart about one of the issues that we 289 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 2: have in this country politically now. But it's now spilled 290 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 2: over and everything, which is people get tied to opinions 291 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 2: the way talk show hosts used to so in the past, 292 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 2: before you everyone had their own audience, you could think 293 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 2: and believe something, get new information and change your opinion, 294 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 2: and the only people who knew you changed your opinion 295 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 2: were your closest friends and family. 296 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 4: Right. 297 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 2: But now that everyone has an audience, everyone gets tied 298 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 2: to a take and they feel like they have to 299 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 2: defend that take even when new evidence comes around. And 300 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 2: so if you saw Acho's tweet and you're like, listen, 301 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 2: I didn't play football. I don't know he played football. 302 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 2: He says this is dirty. So you fire off a 303 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 2: tweet that guy should be suspended for the year. It's 304 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 2: a dirty player. I'd cut him. And then you see 305 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 2: seven other former football players say, hey, I did play 306 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 2: like Ajo played. I disagree with him. In a normal world, 307 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 2: you may be like, oh, I was basing my opinion 308 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 2: on someone else's opinion because of their experience. Now there's 309 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 2: more people with other experience. Give me theirs I can 310 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 2: come to. But now you're tied to it. Nobody wants 311 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 2: to admit they're wrong. So now they're like, Nope, you're wrong. 312 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 2: Jeff Schwartz, you're wrong, Mark Schlereth, you guys, And so 313 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 2: it just becomes up. People need to be more like science. Yeah, 314 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 2: there you go, that's a good line. I agree, evolve 315 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 2: with new evidence. And the other thing is this, folks. 316 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 2: As we've learned from the Draymond Green media experience, not 317 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 2: everyone is prepared to deal with the take backlash and 318 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 2: to learn the way I have learned over almost twenty 319 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 2: years of doing this, how to wiggle out of your 320 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 2: worst opinions, how to find a way a little sleight 321 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 2: of hand and be like, oh look over here, and 322 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 2: you're now you're free and clear. So instead they're just 323 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 2: arguing and cursing and yelling. All right, what's next? 324 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 4: Uh? 325 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 2: Next? Is Tom Brady? 326 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 5: Oh you miss some training camp, dude, there's a lot 327 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 5: of training camp issues. 328 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 2: He left training camp before I left for Rome, and 329 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 2: he got back today, which is we're recording on Monday. 330 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 2: He missed a lot of training. Hey man, he's freaking 331 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 2: Tom Brady. Okay, go ahead, training camp. 332 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 5: Yeah, however you returned to practice practice Monday morning. 333 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 2: Yep. 334 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 4: Some people think. 335 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 5: That he missed all of this so he could go 336 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 5: on audition for the Massinger. Okay, whatever, that is his off. 337 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 2: Okay, by the way, that might be Fox's highest rated 338 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 2: television shows. 339 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 5: No, I kind of I know it. It was like, honestly, 340 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 5: a part of my persona. 341 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, you know what. You're right about that, and 342 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 2: it is it is a part of the demand's a brain. 343 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 2: I don't watch the Masked Singer. What are you talking about? 344 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 2: But great show America should watch it. Go ahead. 345 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 5: His offensive line has become very injured over the postseason. 346 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 5: With all this weird news, are you still fading the Bucks? 347 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 2: Okay, yes, I'm still fading the Bucks first of all. 348 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 2: Second of all, let me talk about the Brady thing 349 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 2: for a moment. Okay. Everyone's gonna ask for Nick to 350 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 2: crush Tom Brady. They expect me to crush Tom. There 351 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 2: is one athlete in the world who has earned the 352 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 2: level of deference due to longevity and excellence that Bradys wonder. 353 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 2: Check your Bengo card. It's Lebron. Okay. If I am 354 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 2: being honest, if Lebron was mysteriously gone from training camp 355 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 2: for ten days, would I say bad teammate not doing it, 356 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 2: or would I say, guys, he's been in the league 357 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 2: twenty years. If he needs Simon needs time, I'd say 358 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 2: the latter, not the former. So if I would cut 359 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 2: Lebron the slack, I'm gonna cut Brady the slack. Okay. 360 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 2: That's first of all. With that said, this is me 361 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 2: giving myself an out on that opinion. If I decide 362 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 2: I want to crush Tom Brady and okay, okay, if 363 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 2: he did this to go on the masked Singer, I 364 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 2: take everything I just said back, you can't do if 365 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 2: you did this because hey, I told my wife I 366 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 2: was retiring. Retiring, she scheduled a family vacation. Okay. I 367 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 2: then told her I was coming back, and part of 368 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 2: the negotiation was all still go, and she was like, 369 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 2: it's the middle of training camp, baby, I'm telling you 370 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 2: I'll still go. We'll work it out. Then I'm fine 371 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 2: with that. Right then, It's not that to me is 372 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 2: there are a lot of reasons if it is to 373 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 2: go on the mass singer. Even if you might be like, 374 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 2: if he's gonna miss time, what does it matter what 375 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 2: he's doing. I just think it's such a bad look 376 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 2: for the team and for makeing. It's if Lebron use 377 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 2: the same example mistraining camp, but then we found it 378 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 2: was because he was on Dancing with the Stars. I 379 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 2: think people be like, dude, what are you doing now? 380 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 2: To the actual bucks. Yeah, I think they're screwed. I 381 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 2: think they are screwed now screwed. 382 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 4: Like, yeah, I feel like that's huge. 383 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 2: I think will listen, We'll see if he can have 384 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 2: a resurgence. The last you know, his last year in 385 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 2: Atlanta was mediocre, last season in Tennessee was bad. We'll 386 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 2: see how healthy is. But the listen, they're in such 387 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 2: a bad division that they'll still be a playoff team. 388 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 2: I would expect that. But the one place that Brady 389 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 2: is most vulnerable his whole career is not if you 390 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 2: can get pressure from the edge, because he's so smart 391 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 2: and can get the ball out so fast, even the 392 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 2: best edge guys usually can't get to him in time. 393 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 2: It's if you can get pressure up the middle. I'm 394 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 2: not breaking news here. Both guards of both his starting 395 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 2: guards left the team this afice his starting center. Who 396 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 2: was the guy? And that's our clock. But there's gonna 397 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 2: be a long show because I have all these extra 398 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 2: takes built up in me and I wasn't on TV today. 399 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 2: His starting center, who was the guy? If you remember 400 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 2: when Brady unretired, he called and he got the contract extension. 401 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 2: Ryan Jensen Jenten out for the year this weekend, one 402 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 2: of the guards they brought in or that was going 403 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 2: to replace one of the starting guards Stinny. He's now 404 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,959 Speaker 2: out for the year, so sat and it is at 405 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 2: the worst spot on the team. The Ryan Jensen injury, 406 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 2: I said it when it happened. Aside from Brady, I 407 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 2: think it's the single worst injury Tampa could have suffered 408 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,479 Speaker 2: a bigger deal than even Mike Evans getting hurt because 409 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 2: Brady can work with other receivers that you lose arguably 410 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 2: the best center in football. So I think that's a 411 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 2: big problem. I do think Brady flirting with retirement, flirting 412 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 2: with other teams now missing training camp. While I'm not 413 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 2: going to crush him for it, is an indication that 414 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 2: he maybe isn't as one hundred percent dialed in as 415 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 2: he has been in the past, which is understandable. Guy's 416 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 2: gonna be forty five years old. All of those are 417 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,719 Speaker 2: reasons to fade the Bucks now. I want to pull 418 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 2: up their schedule real quick. Is that a reason that 419 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 2: I think they're not gonna win the Division? Of course 420 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 2: not because I don't believe in the Saints. The Panthers 421 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 2: are the Panthers, and the Falcons might be the worst 422 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 2: team in football. But could the Bucks start off one 423 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 2: in three? Put this as a promo for the gambling show, 424 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 2: make this prop bet. I would if you set the 425 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 2: over under on the Bucks wins after four weeks at 426 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 2: one and a half, I would bet the under. If 427 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 2: you set the over under on Bucks wins after four 428 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 2: weeks at two where I get a push if they 429 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 2: go to and two and I will lose at three 430 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 2: and one or four and zero, I would hammer the under. 431 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 2: Week one, they're at Dallas. Week two they're at New Orleans. Again. 432 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 2: I don't love New Orleans, but New Orleans is the 433 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 2: one team in football who's beat Brady up throughout the 434 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 2: last He's one and three against them in the regular season. 435 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 2: Since you went to Tampa Week three home for the Packers, 436 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 2: Week four home for the Chiefs, it then gets incredibly 437 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 2: soft after that, with the exception of a two week 438 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 2: stretch for the the Ravens and the Rams. So I 439 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 2: don't think they're gonna I think they'll make the playoffs. 440 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 2: I don't think they're gonna have any chance of a 441 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 2: one seed, and I don't think they're gonna have any 442 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 2: type of playoff success. But because of that division, I 443 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 2: still believe in them that they're gonna have a successful year. 444 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:44,959 Speaker 2: All Right, what's next? So I'll bet the under one 445 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 2: and three. I got it, Yeah, you got it a 446 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 2: gambling expert. Yeah. 447 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 4: So of course Lebron's extension made it to the show. 448 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, still talking about it. Go ahead. 449 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 5: Ron and the Lakers have agreed on a new contract. 450 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 5: The two year extension includes a twenty twenty four or 451 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 5: twenty twenty five season player option. Yeah, that of course 452 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 5: is when Bronni could potentially be in the league. 453 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 2: You said he shouldn't do a deal early. Yep. 454 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 5: Do you think he resigned just to solidify the player 455 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 5: option in two in the twenty twenty four to twenty 456 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:13,959 Speaker 5: five seasons. 457 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 2: No, I don't think you would have resigned without it. 458 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 2: But I don't think because he would have had the 459 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 2: ultimate player option a year from now, which is free agency, 460 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 2: and he could have then just signed a one year 461 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 2: deal anywhere. I was shocked by this news. To be clear, 462 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,199 Speaker 2: I made it very clear that I thought there was 463 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 2: no upside to Lebron resigning. The only upside is, oh, 464 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 2: if he suffers a career ending injury. That way he 465 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 2: gets the ninety seven million. And with respect to ninety 466 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,719 Speaker 2: seven million dollars, that's not moving the needle for Lebron. 467 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 2: I know he is trying to buy a team, so 468 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 2: every dollar matter is because you need billions, and he's 469 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 2: at a little over a billion plus. But still the 470 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 2: financial security I do not believe was the reason he 471 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 2: did it, I believe, And the other part of it 472 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 2: was I thought there was a chance, even if you 473 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 2: want to stay with the Lake, he would do it 474 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 2: for less the reason. 475 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, go ahead. 476 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 5: What were you going to say, no, no, no, I 477 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 5: think because you were saying that he didn't do it 478 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 5: for the money. I think I thought you were going 479 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 5: to go on to say that he did it because 480 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 5: Kyrie Irving is going to the Lakers. 481 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 2: Well, you're almost right. I believe that the discussions were 482 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 2: between Rich Rich, Paul, Rob Blink and Lebron were this, guys, 483 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 2: what are we going to do to make this team better? 484 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 2: All the media reports are you won't trade those future 485 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 2: draft picks to bring in Kyrie, or if Kyrie ends 486 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 2: up not being available, I think he will be do 487 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 2: something something else. And I think what Rob Blinka said is, well, 488 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 2: we can't trade our entire future if we think Lebron 489 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 2: might leave in eight months, that would be poor management. 490 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 2: If you guys commit to us that we have at 491 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 2: a minimum, instead of one more year of Lebron, a 492 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 2: minimum of two more year years of Lebron, because that's 493 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 2: all this guarantees because of the player option, then we 494 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 2: will commit to you if the right trades available, the 495 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 2: twenty seven and the twenty nine first round picks are 496 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 2: on the board. Does that make sense because that's the 497 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 2: only reason I could I could come up with as 498 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 2: to why Lebron would agree to this is that they 499 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 2: told him, if you agree to this, then we will 500 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 2: go all in on year twenty for you, which I 501 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 2: don't think Lakers will win the title, and as presidently concer, 502 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 2: they can't win the title. But if in Lebron's twentieth season, 503 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 2: he not only passes Kaream up Little Jabbar in all 504 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 2: time scoring, which is going to happen midway through this year, 505 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 2: but does it while playing at an all NBA level, 506 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 2: which he obviously did last year, and somehow the team 507 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 2: were to win the title, and it's the title that 508 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 2: breaks the tide with the Celtics for most titles in 509 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 2: franchise history. If that all were to happen, then the 510 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 2: goat debate becomes afterthought. Then it becomes can you believe 511 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 2: people were still arguing about so? But they can't. They 512 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 2: do not have enough to win the title this year 513 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 2: unless they add a true difference maker, which they're not 514 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 2: going to be able to do without getting rid of 515 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 2: one or maybe both those future picks. All right, that's 516 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 2: a big media block. We might haven't even longer b block. 517 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 2: This might be the longest show we've ever done. But 518 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 2: that's fine. I'm excited to be back. Take quick break, 519 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 2: come back. I said I wouldn't even talk about the vacation, 520 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 2: and I'm not. But what I guess I am briefly here. 521 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 2: What I am gonna say is anybody that is interested 522 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 2: in history, I cannot imagine. Now. I've never been to 523 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 2: Greece and I haven't been to Egypt, so those would 524 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 2: be the only and I guess, you know what, also 525 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 2: parts of China. I guess those would be the mount 526 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,719 Speaker 2: Rushmore of historical places to visit, along with Rome. But 527 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 2: the youngest buildings in world are one hundred and fifty years. 528 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 2: The oldest are more than two thousand. And the scale 529 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 2: of what these people were doing two thousand years ago. 530 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 2: Everyone talked about the costume and the costumes unbelievable. The pantheon. 531 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:25,719 Speaker 2: I cannot put into words how jaw dropping it is. 532 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 2: And the other thing that I did, Nicole, you know, 533 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 2: your mom's best friend who was with us, pointed this 534 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 2: out and it was my mom I think also mentioned it. 535 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 2: The part that's impossible to conceptualize is how many goddamn 536 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 2: sculptors lived in one place, because every every building the 537 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 2: front of it has these perfectly done marble sculptures, and 538 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 2: it's like, how how many? How many of these people 539 00:28:54,720 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 2: had this talent? It is. It is as as remarkable 540 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 2: a place as I've ever been to in my life. 541 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 2: I also say this quickly, uh, and I'm Italian and 542 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 2: I hate say it. The food was unbelievable. I thought 543 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 2: the food in Barcelona was better. Okay, I thought Barcelona 544 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 2: was the best food city I've ever been to. Rome 545 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 2: is a close second, but history wise, nothing comes close. 546 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 2: All right, are you ready to go? I'm ready to go. 547 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 2: All right, what are we we're starting? What are we 548 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 2: starting with? Here? We're gonna start. 549 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 4: We talked a little bit about this yesterday. So I 550 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 4: took an uber. 551 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 2: Oh good, I'm glad. This would be a good little 552 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 2: ramp before you get back to the sports. Go ahead. 553 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, so you displayed some distaste for that, not for 554 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 5: you taking the uber? No, No, of course, no, no nothing, okay, sorry, 555 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 5: let me go into the So I took a uber yesterday, 556 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 5: and for the first time I noticed that they had 557 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 5: like an option on there, or that I could pick 558 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 5: if I wanted to have a conversation, I could change 559 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 5: the temperature and everything. Yeah, but the one that stood 560 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 5: out was picking either to have a conversation or that 561 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 5: have there be no talking. Yeah, and I I had 562 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,239 Speaker 5: never noticed that until yesterday. You said it's been there 563 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 5: for a while, but it seemed like you sort of 564 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 5: had a problem. 565 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, you hadn't noticed it until yesterday because I 566 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 2: think you were accidentally taking expensive ubers, and you because 567 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 2: I don't think it's an Because here's why this is 568 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 2: so outrageous for a number of reasons. Let me make 569 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 2: sure I'm right about this. For first of all, I 570 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 2: do not believe it to be an option on Uber 571 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 2: x so the cheapest Uber. If I were to get 572 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 2: an Uber right now, I'm not going to actually get it, 573 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 2: but I but I do that. Yeah, it's not an option. 574 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 2: But if you do, like Uber black Suv, oh, it 575 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 2: is an option. Okay, at least on my phone. Wow. So, 576 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 2: first of all, it's saying if you're you know, paying 577 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 2: extra will give you some perks. Choosing the temperature seems 578 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 2: totally reasonable right, especially by the way, if you are 579 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 2: paying extra. If you're paying extra, you're like, you know what, 580 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 2: paying a lot of money for this ride. I would 581 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 2: like it to be right like a private driver. If 582 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 2: I'm going to pay a price of a private drive, 583 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 2: I'd like it to be where the car is, the 584 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 2: exact temperature I would like. And it also asks you 585 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 2: do you have bags you need help with? So the 586 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 2: driver knows to get out? 587 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 6: You know what? 588 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 2: Fine, you want to pay for that, no problem. The 589 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 2: fact that there is an option that the driver sees 590 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 2: on am I allowed to speak to this person is 591 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 2: such an indictment on our inability as humans to interact 592 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 2: with each other. By the way, I am not saying 593 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 2: you have an obligation to talk to people. The take 594 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 2: is not you must talk to your Uber drivers at 595 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 2: all the time. Maybe you have a business call to make, 596 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 2: maybe you just got terrible family news, Maybe you're just exhausted. 597 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 2: Maybe you're the way I was when I would be 598 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 2: in studio for first things first and some time i'd 599 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 2: take the train sometimes take an uber back and I 600 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 2: had just talked for three straight hours, and the last 601 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 2: thing I want to do is have a conversation there, 602 00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 2: it is reasonable to be like, I don't want to 603 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 2: talk right now, but it doesn't need to be clicked 604 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 2: through on an app. Have a moment with another human being. Hey, 605 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 2: thanks for the ride, no problem. Guys start chatting, respond 606 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 2: to him and sir, I'm not trying to be rude. 607 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 2: I've got a phone call to make. Sir, I'm not 608 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 2: trying to be rude. I'm exhausted, and then that's it. 609 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 2: But to have it be a button so I theoretically 610 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 2: the point is I won't even have to look this 611 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 2: guy in the eye. I'll never have to speak to him. 612 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 2: It's so, it is, and it further tries to draw 613 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 2: the line in the gig economy amongst people who use 614 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:46,959 Speaker 2: the gig economy and people who service the gig economy. 615 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 2: It's the same I understood on the door dash and 616 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 2: seamless stuff. 617 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 4: The no contact delivery. 618 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, if it was a health issue, But now people 619 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 2: who are going to nightclubs maskless or doing it so 620 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 2: they don't have to talk, so they don't have to 621 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 2: interact with another human being. It's it is again. Our 622 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 2: society is framed and it's hanging by a few threads 623 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 2: of social norms and politeness, and we are just hacking 624 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 2: away at those because you want to click a stupid button. 625 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 2: So your Uber driver doesn't say so you live in 626 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 2: New York, are you're visiting? Like, oh, I can't have 627 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 2: that interaction, like, don't subject me to having to speak 628 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 2: with another human being. It's dark, right, it's dark. It's outrageous. 629 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 2: I hate that they added it. I think it's an 630 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 2: indictment on everyone and anyone who uses that feature. I 631 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 2: judge you again, I do not judge you. Tell your 632 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 2: Uber driver. Matt uses it right now. Matt uses it. 633 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 2: Our producer, Matt uses it. Matt's a bad six weeks 634 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 2: from being an Uber driver. He uses it all right, 635 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 2: oh himself and say, no chance, I got real. I 636 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 2: got real frisky there when I say it's bad, six 637 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 2: weeks away from that being his only job. My apologies, Matt. 638 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 2: I was so shocked that you would use that. 639 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 5: Feet if he were to have used it, he would. 640 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 5: He told me the exact situation that he would have 641 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 5: used it in. Yeah, and I definitely I understood. 642 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna go ahead and say there's one person 643 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 2: on our show that I think uses it. Gabe of course, 644 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 2: lives in a palace by the has a gorgeous you 645 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 2: know wife who I think look at him? You know, 646 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 2: I said, I don't want to look at your house. 647 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:40,399 Speaker 4: Bro. 648 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 2: You guys look at Gabe's background. They look at those paintings, 649 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 2: look at the architecture, even the recess life. I mean, 650 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 2: look at this. I mean this is that. Again. I 651 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,800 Speaker 2: didn't say Gabe would do it. I just said I 652 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:03,840 Speaker 2: use beautiful wife. Beautiful wife. Hello, uh the And I 653 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 2: don't want to say by the way, we're off the 654 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 2: rails and we'll get back to the sports quickly, or 655 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 2: we'll quickly back to the sports. Funny story about when 656 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 2: I met Gabe. Gabe and I worked together for like 657 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 2: a year. And I'm not going to say Gabe's wife's 658 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 2: name because it's not the public's business. But it's a 659 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,800 Speaker 2: it's a it's a name that could be a guy's 660 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 2: or a girl's name, and it's I would say, it's 661 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,439 Speaker 2: more typically a guy's name, at least when I hear 662 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 2: it that, I think of that. And Gabe mentioned her 663 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 2: and I'd known him for like a year, and I'm like, man, 664 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 2: I had no idea Gabe was gay. I was like 665 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 2: this is like I was like, not that I didn't 666 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 2: even care one way or the other, but usually you 667 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 2: have like shot someone for a while, you get a 668 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 2: feeling about it, and I and then I thought that 669 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 2: for like another six months, and then I met her 670 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh, it makes a little more sense. 671 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 2: Now it's like, oh, okay, no. But so again, the 672 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,720 Speaker 2: point that I was making is I don't think anyone 673 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 2: on this show would do it. But if I was 674 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 2: having a draft and it was one person on the show, 675 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 2: we have confirmation clicked the don't look me in the 676 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 2: eyes petty uber driver. Yeah, definitely, it's not gonna be Nick. 677 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 2: It's not gonna be Matt, it's not gonna be Victor. 678 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 2: It's not gonna be on our amazing intern not intern. 679 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 2: I apologize an amazing producer Kara who last night, uh 680 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 2: found your screw win through podcast. Yeah, in the middle 681 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 2: of Sunday night, working extra hours, Dave Gabe's drinking Sharton 682 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 2: ad by the beach. All right, let's all right, let's 683 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:32,359 Speaker 2: get to the actual show. 684 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 4: Sorry about that, Go ahead, all right, So back to 685 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 4: the sports. 686 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,280 Speaker 5: Uh huh, you interrupted your vacation to make a tweet 687 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 5: about Katie and Kyrie, you said, well, you think that 688 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 5: the NBA twenty twenty two is Christmas schedule means that 689 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 5: they will no longer. 690 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 2: Be in Brooklyn. 691 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 4: Uh. 692 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,800 Speaker 5: The last The latest rumor is that the Jalen Brown 693 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,240 Speaker 5: package is still the best offer on the table. 694 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 2: Can you believe there's also a rumor now that the 695 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 2: Grizzlies might be involved? There was a Ladies from very 696 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 2: early this morning. Sham said that the Grizzlies might be involved, 697 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 2: trying to include their picks. But go ahead, yep, picks. 698 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 5: Can you believe you're still talking about Katie after his 699 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 5: whole checkmate move. 700 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 2: Oh no, of course I'm gonna keep talking about this 701 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 2: because I think it's about the Nets. Sorry, Katie, No, listen, 702 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 2: this is going to drag on. But Katie is going 703 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 2: to get what he wants. He is going to get traded. 704 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,360 Speaker 2: There is no question in my mind that he is 705 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 2: going to get traded. And there are three teams that 706 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 2: from the very beginning, I said, and this is one 707 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 2: of the things that frustrates me about sports media, will 708 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,239 Speaker 2: be totally candid. I ain't there are I ain't that 709 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 2: some of the best sports media is barber shop talk. Right, 710 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:46,919 Speaker 2: The type of debate you have of the barber shop. 711 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 2: But the distinguishing factor is supposed to be that those 712 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 2: of us with a platform, okay, have a responsibility to 713 00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:02,759 Speaker 2: be informed on what isn't isn't realistic. So the barbershop 714 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 2: talk like all time greatest hypothetical things, whatever it is. 715 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,720 Speaker 2: When it comes to could Team X trade for player, 716 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 2: why there is a level of I would not to 717 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 2: be too extreme responsibility to actually tell the audience, well, 718 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,400 Speaker 2: here's what isn't is impossible. And there were three teams 719 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 2: from the first day Katie demanded a trade that I 720 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 2: said could check every box of what the Nets want back, 721 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 2: and I'd be shocked if they don't get involved. Those 722 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 2: three teams were the New Orleans Pelicans who were involved, 723 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 2: the Boston Celtics, who are heavily involved, and the Memphis Grizzlies. 724 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 2: And nobody was talking about the Pelicans. Now they are 725 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 2: and now Shamsay and the Grizzlies are involved, because those 726 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 2: were the three teams that could include a young All 727 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 2: Star Ish player. Jaron Jackson, Jalen Brown, Brandon Ingram had 728 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 2: their own picks and extra picks to include in the deal, 729 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:04,279 Speaker 2: and their young player was making enough money that you 730 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,760 Speaker 2: could make the salaries work. It's what the Miami trade 731 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,319 Speaker 2: never was going to be able to work because Bam 732 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 2: couldn't be a part of the Sun's trade. Was the 733 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,240 Speaker 2: only chance that I was with eighton was what they wanted. 734 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 2: Once he resigned, it was gone. The Warriors trade to me, 735 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 2: financially and players wise, you could make that work. But 736 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 2: it would just have been shocking if Katie would have 737 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 2: signed up for them. So those to me, if I 738 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,400 Speaker 2: were those three teams, those are the I would be 739 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,319 Speaker 2: making calls to the nets, and by were the nets, 740 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,360 Speaker 2: I'd be like, these are the three teams that we 741 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:41,279 Speaker 2: should be keyed in on more than anything. And so yeah, 742 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 2: I listen. I think that eventually this trade happens. I 743 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 2: think it probably is to Boston. I made it very 744 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:50,879 Speaker 2: clear that I think the Pelicans are the right move. 745 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 2: The problem for the Grizzlies, and I said it was 746 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 2: Jaron Jackson Junior just had knee surgery, So how much 747 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 2: does that hurt his value? Okay, we've got a lot 748 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 2: more do this second, so let's just keep rolling, go 749 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 2: ahead a. 750 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 5: Lot more, and it's time for I think we've played 751 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,799 Speaker 5: this game one time maybe likely, maybe or what. 752 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 2: It Okay, So Demandy's gonna lay out of a situation, 753 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 2: and then I'm going to tell you it's likely this, 754 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 2: it might be that, or what if it's this? All right, 755 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:16,840 Speaker 2: go ahead. 756 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 5: UFC president Dana White claimed he was close to brokering 757 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,800 Speaker 5: a deal for the Raiders for Tom Brady and Gronk 758 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,320 Speaker 5: to go there before they signed with the Bucks. Gronk 759 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:31,840 Speaker 5: said it really did happen, but Joe Grudens John Gruden 760 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 5: mixed the deal. Apparently Brady was already looking at houses 761 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 5: in Vegas with BT. Do you think Brady was actually 762 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 5: going to Vegas? 763 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 2: Oh, I think it's likely. This is totally true. I 764 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,920 Speaker 2: think that it also then poor Derek Carr. But you 765 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,840 Speaker 2: remember Brady went on the shop and I don't know 766 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,839 Speaker 2: if it was Maverick or lebron some one of them 767 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,799 Speaker 2: asked him about it might have been pr and he 768 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 2: said that there was a team out there that I 769 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 2: thought was interesting me and then said they wanted to 770 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 2: stick with their quarterback. And I said, you're gonna choose 771 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 2: that mother over me? 772 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:07,280 Speaker 4: Wow? 773 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,799 Speaker 2: And that, and I don't think he was saying. 774 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:10,879 Speaker 4: A and B. 775 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,919 Speaker 2: You know, yeah, connect the dots right, And I don't 776 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 2: think he was saying it. The tone in my voice 777 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,320 Speaker 2: was probably a little misleading. I don't think he was 778 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 2: saying it like that guy is a bad guy. He 779 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,400 Speaker 2: was saying it like I'm Tom Brady and he's not 780 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 2: newly the player. I am right. It doesn't shock me 781 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:32,319 Speaker 2: at all that John Gruden would not want anyone on 782 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,600 Speaker 2: his team that is a bigger celebrity than him. Let's 783 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,879 Speaker 2: not get it twisted about why John Gruden didn't do this. 784 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 2: It was not because he thought Derek Carr was better 785 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 2: than Tom Brady. It was because the Raiders' success was 786 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 2: going to have to be because of the brilliance of 787 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 2: John Gruden. And it the he would cut off his 788 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 2: nose to spite his face in that regard, like that's 789 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,759 Speaker 2: who he is. And so it doesn't shock me at 790 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 2: all that he nixed it. And it what is a 791 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:06,720 Speaker 2: little interesting is it shows Brady was interested in coming 792 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,480 Speaker 2: to Mahomes's division. That is an interesting element of it 793 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 2: that I know. But I think when he went to Tampa, 794 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,080 Speaker 2: a lot of us myself include, were like, well, yeah, 795 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 2: they have this roster and these things a good coach. 796 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,279 Speaker 2: But it also is such a soft division. Carolina was 797 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,759 Speaker 2: a mess, Atlanta was trending down, and everyone knew that 798 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 2: Drew Brees was going to retire very soon. So it's like, oh, 799 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 2: you go from the AFC East, which is always easy, 800 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 2: to this place, and you're going to be able to run. 801 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:40,840 Speaker 2: But we now know that he was thinking about Miami, 802 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,880 Speaker 2: which stays in the AFC East, go against New England, 803 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,719 Speaker 2: wanting to go to the Raiders, and I think that 804 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 2: was a that would be the ultimate like all time 805 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:55,399 Speaker 2: goat checkmate, right, because keep in mind he hadn't, yes, 806 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 2: he had beaten Mahomes in that playoff game with New England. However, 807 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 2: the previous year, Mahomes had won the Super Bowl. Right, 808 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,359 Speaker 2: the playoff game against New England with the Chiefs went 809 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 2: to overtime, Mahomes played great. He hadn't beaten Mahomes in 810 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,239 Speaker 2: a Super Bowl yet that was which was his new 811 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 2: ultimate check thing. That the Bucks chief Super Bowl that 812 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,319 Speaker 2: year's first year in Tampa. It would have been an 813 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 2: ultimate Oh, I'm going to the division of the guy 814 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,319 Speaker 2: that a lot on the media saying one day could 815 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 2: be the goat, and I'm going to just start winning it. 816 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 2: So I find the whole thing interesting. I'm not surprised 817 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:29,919 Speaker 2: that Gruden Nix did all right, what's next? 818 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:31,440 Speaker 4: Okay, go ahead? 819 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 2: Oh wait, I didn't do it. Sorry, I didn't do 820 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,800 Speaker 2: the segment. I didn't do it right. So it's likely 821 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:43,320 Speaker 2: that this is exactly true. But maybe that Dana White 822 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:50,360 Speaker 2: is overstating his own importance in this, which is something 823 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 2: Dana White is on brand for him. But what if 824 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 2: Brady had gone there? Then you know what doesn't happen? 825 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 2: If the Chiefs and the Raiders play in the playoffs, 826 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,319 Speaker 2: the Chiefs offensive line is not as banged up as 827 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,920 Speaker 2: it was in the Super Bowl. Mahomes kicks his ass, 828 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 2: Mahomes wins back to back, and Brady and all of 829 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,799 Speaker 2: a sudden, like whoa that go? Well, Mahomes on his 830 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,800 Speaker 2: tail are retired? Yeah, who knows? 831 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:18,320 Speaker 4: And that's what if? 832 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. Sorry, I forgot how this segment worked. 833 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:22,040 Speaker 2: All right, what's next? 834 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:26,440 Speaker 5: Packer's head coach Matt Lafleur yep uh said quarterback Jordan 835 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,000 Speaker 5: Love is light years ahead of where he was last year. 836 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,879 Speaker 5: This undoubtedly offended Aaron Rodgers. He does tend to get 837 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,920 Speaker 5: a little sensitive. What was Matt Laflour Lafleur. Well, this, 838 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 5: that one's weird. Matt mcflir, Matt Matt mufflir, laffloor floor. 839 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 2: The reason it's weird is because you're adding, you're right, 840 00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,399 Speaker 2: what was Matt Lafleur going for? There you go? There 841 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,840 Speaker 2: we go? Uh? First, he was going for his guys. 842 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 2: You know I've been the coach of this team. We 843 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 2: win thirteen games every year? Can people pronounce my name? Right? 844 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 2: That's what he's going for, all right, It's likely he 845 00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:01,440 Speaker 2: is simply trying to build up a bit of trade 846 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 2: value for Jordan Love. It is likely that he simply 847 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:09,200 Speaker 2: wants Jordan Love to have some type of trade value 848 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:13,040 Speaker 2: if somebody's quarterback goes down, so they can recoup that pick. 849 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:17,000 Speaker 2: Because Love, with Rogers signing this new extension, Love's rookie 850 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,960 Speaker 2: contracts are gonna expire before he ever sees the field. Okay, 851 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:25,759 Speaker 2: so that's what's likely. But maybe, but maybe Jordan Love 852 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 2: actually is light years ahead of where he was now. 853 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 2: I think he threw I was in Rome, but I 854 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,080 Speaker 2: think he threw three picks in one of these preseason. 855 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 4: Games, light years ahead of Aaron Rodgers. 856 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,239 Speaker 2: No, light years of where he was last year, not 857 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:39,320 Speaker 2: where I don't. 858 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:40,080 Speaker 4: Really understand why. 859 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,520 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers. Okay, but what if I agree with you 860 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,840 Speaker 2: there by the way, But what if this is not 861 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:54,120 Speaker 2: actually anything more than what a coach would normally do 862 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,279 Speaker 2: to try to build up his players. And because of 863 00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:01,839 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers' own history here, we are reading too much 864 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,359 Speaker 2: into the impact it would have. With that said I 865 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,200 Speaker 2: you know, in years past, I would have thought, yeah, 866 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,880 Speaker 2: this might piss off Aaron. But Aaron, not the new Ayahuasca. 867 00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,920 Speaker 2: I'm here for love. Aaron. Aaron has really convinced me 868 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 2: that that that he's experimenting with hallucinogens has changed the 869 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,759 Speaker 2: way he looks at the world. I believe that I 870 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:28,360 Speaker 2: have heard it from him. Why are you laughing at me? No? 871 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:29,960 Speaker 4: Man, it's just you know what I mean, you're just 872 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,440 Speaker 4: saying that. I feel like you're just saying the guys 873 00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:33,280 Speaker 4: he's high. 874 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:38,080 Speaker 2: I don't think he's high right now. But okay, let's 875 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:42,640 Speaker 2: just do this quickly here. Once upon a time you 876 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,920 Speaker 2: oh jesus, no, just wait a moment. Don't get mad 877 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,120 Speaker 2: at me here, you don't get mad at me here. 878 00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, exactly what you're about to start talking about 879 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:52,640 Speaker 5: ahead we're doing it quickly. 880 00:46:52,760 --> 00:47:00,080 Speaker 2: We'll do it quickly once upon a time demands with 881 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,359 Speaker 2: some friends in a safe, controlled environment what I would 882 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:08,239 Speaker 2: call micro doos some not ayahuasca, but similar. This isn't 883 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,440 Speaker 2: the schlitterbond thing you were talking about noone else. And 884 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:17,319 Speaker 2: I saw you the next day and you were a 885 00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:22,799 Speaker 2: more call it, open and loving person than I had 886 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,920 Speaker 2: seen you in a very long time. And it clearly 887 00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,960 Speaker 2: that experience had opened your eyes in your heart to something. 888 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,399 Speaker 2: And since then I watched a whole show called Seven 889 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:37,920 Speaker 2: Perfect Strangers about micro dosing psilocybin, and now that show's 890 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,400 Speaker 2: about like seeing dead people kind of. But there is 891 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:45,560 Speaker 2: some science behind these types of drugs activating part of 892 00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:49,560 Speaker 2: your brain that then has lasting effects long after you're high. 893 00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,160 Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying. I wasn't trying to put your 894 00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,399 Speaker 2: business out in the street. I'm just saying I had 895 00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,440 Speaker 2: some first hand experience with it, plus research about it, 896 00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:01,560 Speaker 2: plus the contemporary pop culture anou love it, plus Aaron Rodgers. 897 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,239 Speaker 2: I do think. So I guess the what if? What 898 00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 2: if we all should go to Peru and take ayahuasca? 899 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:08,600 Speaker 2: That's the what if? All right? 900 00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:13,400 Speaker 5: What's the next after a very eventful offseason. Zach Wilson 901 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,479 Speaker 5: got hurt in the first game of the preseason. Yeah, 902 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,799 Speaker 5: after a bad rookie season, He's already gonna miss time 903 00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,040 Speaker 5: in his second season. What does the future hold for 904 00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 5: Zach Wilson on and off the field? 905 00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:23,879 Speaker 2: All right? Before I answered, can we get Gabe back 906 00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:25,960 Speaker 2: on the show? Or did he leave because I insulted 907 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,239 Speaker 2: him so much? If Gabe's back on the show, I 908 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:31,879 Speaker 2: would love to get Gabe our you know, resident Jets fan, 909 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,359 Speaker 2: his take on this, because I have a I want 910 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,880 Speaker 2: to see where you're at, Gabe on Zach first, you know, 911 00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:42,040 Speaker 2: if I may, what was your optimism Zach Wilson before 912 00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,480 Speaker 2: this preseason started, and what was your reaction to the injury? 913 00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,920 Speaker 6: You said that Matt has about six bad weeks before 914 00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,439 Speaker 6: uber is his only option, and I would have said 915 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:59,560 Speaker 6: Zach's number was about three. So I've never been believed. 916 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:02,360 Speaker 6: I'm still not a believer. 917 00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,640 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So this is my concern. I had 918 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:12,000 Speaker 2: real questions about Zach Wilson coming out of college. I also, 919 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:16,200 Speaker 2: and this isn't exactly how probabilities work, but in my 920 00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:19,359 Speaker 2: head they kind of do. I look at last year's 921 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:23,480 Speaker 2: draft class. I'm like, Okay, I believe Trevor Lawrence is 922 00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,279 Speaker 2: going to be a star. He hasn't shown it yet, 923 00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,319 Speaker 2: but I believe in that Trey Lance, we haven't seen 924 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,960 Speaker 2: anything yet. I think he's going to be good. Mac 925 00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:35,640 Speaker 2: Jones at the very least is going to be competent. Right, 926 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:39,840 Speaker 2: There is no There's never been a draft class in 927 00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,680 Speaker 2: history where all of the first round picks when you 928 00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:46,680 Speaker 2: have that many of them hit and there's always at 929 00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:52,040 Speaker 2: least one when there's three plus first round quarterbacks, huge bust. 930 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,960 Speaker 2: Right like with the year that Lamar went thirty two 931 00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,640 Speaker 2: and Baker went one, and Josh Allen went sixth or seventh. 932 00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:02,240 Speaker 2: Josh Rosen's mixed in there, and Mark Sanchez, not Mark Sanchez, 933 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:06,520 Speaker 2: the other Jets quarterback, the Sam pardon me, Sam Donald's 934 00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,359 Speaker 2: mixed in there. Justin Fields has his work cut out 935 00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,799 Speaker 2: for him. But Zach Wilson was the one that I 936 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,680 Speaker 2: was most confident this isn't gonna work, partially and partially 937 00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,640 Speaker 2: because I didn't believe in Zach, and partially because some 938 00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:20,399 Speaker 2: guys just go to the wrong team and their snake 939 00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,520 Speaker 2: bit and it's just bad luck. Starting the rookie is 940 00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:27,200 Speaker 2: second year off with a significant injury where he's going 941 00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:31,800 Speaker 2: to miss time is the most devastating possible outcome for 942 00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:36,600 Speaker 2: Jets fans. So it's likely that the Jets are again 943 00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:40,239 Speaker 2: in the quarterback market two years from now that this 944 00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,680 Speaker 2: year they're like, Ay, he started off hurt and whatever, 945 00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,000 Speaker 2: and he had some flashes, and next year they give 946 00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:46,680 Speaker 2: him one more shot and they're done with him. Similar 947 00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:53,040 Speaker 2: with Donald's. Okay, that's likely. But maybe he escaped injury 948 00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:58,399 Speaker 2: and significant injury and because he had some moments last year, 949 00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,279 Speaker 2: he puts it together and has a promising season. I 950 00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:06,840 Speaker 2: think that's incredibly unlikely. But what if Zach Wilson, I 951 00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:10,440 Speaker 2: do not believe this is gonna happen, takes the embarrassment 952 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,640 Speaker 2: of this summer with the thing involving cougar's and his 953 00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,920 Speaker 2: mom's friend and all of that, and then the injury 954 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:22,000 Speaker 2: and uses it all to have the most improbable great 955 00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,920 Speaker 2: season we've seen from a young quarterback in a decade. 956 00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,120 Speaker 2: That's not gonna happen. I'm sorry, Jets fans, it's gonna 957 00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:29,520 Speaker 2: be a long another decade. 958 00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:31,959 Speaker 4: Okay, next, leave it leave that an open take. 959 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:33,879 Speaker 2: Yeah you chet. 960 00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,920 Speaker 5: Holmgren appeared to injure his ankle after attempting to defend 961 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,120 Speaker 5: Lebron on a layup. Yeah, this is the guy who's 962 00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,520 Speaker 5: supposed to be a generational defensive prospect. 963 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:47,359 Speaker 2: Is this a big deal? Okay, it's it's not. It's 964 00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:51,520 Speaker 2: likely that this is just bad luck. Okay, it's And 965 00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,000 Speaker 2: I know everyone expects me to crush chat here. It's 966 00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:57,680 Speaker 2: likely this is at a gym with a slippery floor 967 00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,560 Speaker 2: because they ended up canceling the game midway through. Lebron 968 00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,200 Speaker 2: is two hundred and seventy five pounds. It's not like 969 00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,200 Speaker 2: the thing is this, It's like, Oh, if Lebron does 970 00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,200 Speaker 2: that to him, think of think of what. There's not 971 00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,120 Speaker 2: a lot of other guys in the league that they 972 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,319 Speaker 2: are going to do that. It's likely there's just bad luck. 973 00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:17,480 Speaker 2: But maybe it is absolutely a sign of what I 974 00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:23,440 Speaker 2: am concerned about, which is the guy's biggest strength right now. 975 00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,600 Speaker 2: This moment is supposed to be his defense. And yes, 976 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,320 Speaker 2: he is going to be able to get to block 977 00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:32,400 Speaker 2: shots from places other guys can't. But when it comes 978 00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:36,440 Speaker 2: to guys bodying into him, he is going to he 979 00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:41,040 Speaker 2: is going to cause such little resistance and it is 980 00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,560 Speaker 2: going to have such a little ill effect on their 981 00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,799 Speaker 2: ability to finish as long as they can handle the 982 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:49,400 Speaker 2: contact and knock him away. But maybe this is a sign. 983 00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:51,359 Speaker 2: And but what if. 984 00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,400 Speaker 4: What if he gets freaking jecked? 985 00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,000 Speaker 2: Okay, well that's not what I was gonna say. I 986 00:52:56,080 --> 00:53:00,839 Speaker 2: don't know. Sure, let me my take on the chet 987 00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:04,440 Speaker 2: Homer and body size things very clear. There's two options. 988 00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,080 Speaker 2: Neither's great. One is this guy who was a potential 989 00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:08,759 Speaker 2: number one pick of the draft, was one of the 990 00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,480 Speaker 2: top high school players in the country, has just chosen 991 00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:15,360 Speaker 2: not to gain weight. That's an indictment on work ethic. 992 00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:19,000 Speaker 2: Everyone says that's not true. The other option is he 993 00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,680 Speaker 2: really wants to gain weight, he knows it's his biggest weakness, 994 00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,799 Speaker 2: maybe only weakness, and can't do it. That's even more 995 00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:28,680 Speaker 2: concerning the If you got a kid in school who's 996 00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:32,120 Speaker 2: getting DS on all his tests and it's because he's 997 00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:35,040 Speaker 2: playing video games all night, that's one thing. If you 998 00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,279 Speaker 2: have a kid in school who every time you come 999 00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,799 Speaker 2: home is studying and every time you had all his 1000 00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,240 Speaker 2: homework done, and he's asking you for help he's getting 1001 00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,279 Speaker 2: DS on tests, you got a different type of problem there, 1002 00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:51,839 Speaker 2: and so and so like it's almost the working hard 1003 00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:55,319 Speaker 2: and not succeeding is a problem that what if I 1004 00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,640 Speaker 2: was going to say is what if and this is 1005 00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:02,000 Speaker 2: the biggest concern, has to drastically adjust the way he 1006 00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:05,400 Speaker 2: plays in a way he's not comfortable with because he 1007 00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:09,719 Speaker 2: can't sustain the contact because he will get hurt or 1008 00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,880 Speaker 2: banged up or Nixon bruises where other guys wouldn't. So 1009 00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,480 Speaker 2: he can't play free the way he wants to and 1010 00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:20,680 Speaker 2: instead has to change things. That's the most biggest concern. So, yeah, 1011 00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:22,680 Speaker 2: I don't think this is what I thought was a 1012 00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,360 Speaker 2: bigger deal. Was the guy who will never play a 1013 00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,240 Speaker 2: minute in the NBA. I don't remember Kenny Lofton something 1014 00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:32,120 Speaker 2: I think was his name, Ken Junior Senior one of them. Yeah, 1015 00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:33,560 Speaker 2: it was some, but he wasn't the kid of the 1016 00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:37,400 Speaker 2: baseball player with the name Kenny Lofton. That guy bodying 1017 00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,200 Speaker 2: Jet Lebron does that to a lot of people. But 1018 00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,080 Speaker 2: it is a concern, all right, what's last now? 1019 00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,080 Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson said he is putting a week one a 1020 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:50,160 Speaker 5: week one deadline on contract negotiations with Baltimore. Apparently, the 1021 00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,240 Speaker 5: Ravens have already made a huge offer, at least one 1022 00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,279 Speaker 5: and John Harball said the deal will get done when 1023 00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:57,000 Speaker 5: it gets done. 1024 00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:58,640 Speaker 4: Why is it taking so long? 1025 00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:04,200 Speaker 2: Well, I think much. It's likely that the Deshaun Watson 1026 00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:07,120 Speaker 2: contract is screwed things up for everyone trying to get 1027 00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:11,319 Speaker 2: deals done, similar to how the Rudy Gobert trade has 1028 00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:14,480 Speaker 2: screwed up the NBA trade markets. When Rudy Gobert goes 1029 00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,120 Speaker 2: for five first round picks, if you're trading Donovan Mitchell, 1030 00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,800 Speaker 2: you want six. If you're trading Kevin Durant, you want seven. 1031 00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:25,080 Speaker 2: Guy is when Deshaun Watson, it's a fully guaranteed deal. 1032 00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:29,640 Speaker 2: Lamar says, uh, I've won so many playoff games, Sshaan Watson. 1033 00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,720 Speaker 2: I have a league MVP. I have no off field 1034 00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,560 Speaker 2: concern I'm not on a second team. Why would I 1035 00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:39,799 Speaker 2: not get a fully deal. The Ravens understandably don't want 1036 00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:41,799 Speaker 2: to give him a fully guaranteed deal. I love Lamar. 1037 00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:43,799 Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to give fully guaranteed deal. The guy 1038 00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,920 Speaker 2: needs to hire an agent, of course, so it's likely 1039 00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:52,560 Speaker 2: that this doesn't get done, and it doesn't get done 1040 00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:57,600 Speaker 2: because he doesn't have someone telling him. Lamar, We've got 1041 00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:02,960 Speaker 2: to do a cost benefit analysis here. Yes, you might 1042 00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:06,759 Speaker 2: be right in principle that if Deshaun got this, you 1043 00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,799 Speaker 2: should get more. But they're offering you reportedly more than 1044 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:14,960 Speaker 2: Kyler got in total money and guarantees. Okay, Is it 1045 00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:19,760 Speaker 2: worth fighting for the principle of this other thing rather 1046 00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:24,400 Speaker 2: than locking in what will be lifetime financial security of 1047 00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,200 Speaker 2: one hundred plus million dollars. You haven't made that much 1048 00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:29,799 Speaker 2: money yet. I understanding he's got good endorsements. I think 1049 00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:31,000 Speaker 2: he was the first round picker who was the last 1050 00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:35,879 Speaker 2: pick of the first round. And I don't know how 1051 00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,480 Speaker 2: Lamar spends his day to day life. I know this 1052 00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,919 Speaker 2: as someone that buys some expensive jewelry. Lamar has spent 1053 00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:46,359 Speaker 2: a lot of money on jewelry, okay, and that if 1054 00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,840 Speaker 2: you have one hundred million guaranteed, that's not an issue 1055 00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:53,880 Speaker 2: at all. If you have eight million guaranteed on a 1056 00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:57,920 Speaker 2: five year Let me see what Lamar's rookie contract was, So, Lamar, 1057 00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:00,719 Speaker 2: I'm gonna look it up real quick, apologize for not 1058 00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,960 Speaker 2: having in front of me. So Lamar's initial contract with 1059 00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:07,319 Speaker 2: the Ravens was four years, nine million bucks. This year 1060 00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,799 Speaker 2: he's going to make twenty three million, okay, So that 1061 00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:13,839 Speaker 2: twenty three million is guaranteed and that that obviously takes 1062 00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:18,760 Speaker 2: care of a lot of the things. But you can 1063 00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:23,280 Speaker 2: go through that. Absolutely, you can go through twenty million 1064 00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:26,240 Speaker 2: as a pro athlete easy. I would be telling him, 1065 00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:29,640 Speaker 2: lock in the one hundred plus million. It's a good franchise. 1066 00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,080 Speaker 2: They built it around you do all this. It's likely 1067 00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:34,280 Speaker 2: if he had an agent this would have been done right. 1068 00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:39,000 Speaker 2: But maybe even if he didn't have an agent, he 1069 00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,280 Speaker 2: would or even if he had an agent, he'd be saying, no, 1070 00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:45,120 Speaker 2: I want I am the next guy up. I'm better 1071 00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,240 Speaker 2: than the other guys who've gotten paid. You're going to 1072 00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,120 Speaker 2: pay me that. And where Lamar does have some leverages, 1073 00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:53,440 Speaker 2: they've built the team around his particular skill set so 1074 00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:57,600 Speaker 2: much that if they lose him, they are so screwed, 1075 00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,200 Speaker 2: more so than other teams will lose their If you 1076 00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:03,240 Speaker 2: have just a traditional quarterback, you built a traditional team. 1077 00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:05,560 Speaker 2: Who's that guy? You still need a quarterback? But it's 1078 00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:09,200 Speaker 2: different in this. But what if he is able to 1079 00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:13,560 Speaker 2: do what Dak did, which is play out the deal, 1080 00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:17,400 Speaker 2: get franchised or I'm sorry, better example than what Dak did, 1081 00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,800 Speaker 2: what Kirk Cousins did, which is get franchise tagged twice 1082 00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:25,280 Speaker 2: and then have never be able to be franchise tagged again, 1083 00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,480 Speaker 2: which has allowed Cousins to sign the greatest contracts in 1084 00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,000 Speaker 2: the NFL history get for a player of his caliber. 1085 00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:36,560 Speaker 2: So there is a chance if Lamar stays healthy, then 1086 00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:39,160 Speaker 2: he will have played this exactly right and will make 1087 00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:44,480 Speaker 2: more money than anybody ever because he'll always take short, 1088 00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:47,560 Speaker 2: fully guaranteed deals, keep hitting free ency as a quarterback. 1089 00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:49,560 Speaker 2: No one else, no one will be able to franchise 1090 00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:53,880 Speaker 2: tag again. But it is. I'm a gambler, and that's 1091 00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,640 Speaker 2: a risk I wouldn't be willing to take. Okay, I 1092 00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:58,360 Speaker 2: told you today's show is going to go long. This 1093 00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:00,280 Speaker 2: is going to be our longest show ever. We have 1094 00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:05,200 Speaker 2: a final block where there's an allegation of theft that 1095 00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:13,680 Speaker 2: must be addressed. We'll do it next. We'll trade all right, 1096 00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:15,840 Speaker 2: welcome back in final segment. What's right? Nick? Right? I'm 1097 00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:17,720 Speaker 2: glad we went along today because allowed us to be 1098 00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:21,520 Speaker 2: recording right. When Baker Mayfield was officially announced the starting 1099 00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,200 Speaker 2: quarterback for the Carolina Panthers, this to me is actually 1100 00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:28,400 Speaker 2: not a huge story. There was any Once the Panthers 1101 00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:30,560 Speaker 2: traded for him, he was the starter, and it's not 1102 00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:34,000 Speaker 2: because Baker's some unimpeachably great quarterback. It's because Sam Donald 1103 00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:36,080 Speaker 2: over the last two years has been the single worst 1104 00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:38,800 Speaker 2: quarterback in football. Sam Donald of the last two years 1105 00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:42,280 Speaker 2: is ranked forty fourth or worse amongst starting quarterbacks in 1106 00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:45,760 Speaker 2: every major category. There's only thirty two teams. Okay, so 1107 00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:49,560 Speaker 2: Donald was never going to be the starter. Baker was 1108 00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:51,640 Speaker 2: going to be the starter. So Baker's the starter. I'm 1109 00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:53,520 Speaker 2: glad we got that in there. Now. I want to 1110 00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:56,840 Speaker 2: discuss something because I got a tweet last night and 1111 00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,920 Speaker 2: the tweet read let me find it because it was 1112 01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,560 Speaker 2: sent to me, and then I sent it to our crew, 1113 01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:05,880 Speaker 2: so I want to give credit. Uh. This is from 1114 01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:10,080 Speaker 2: Zijan Kahn on Twitter at Bill Simmons had a segment 1115 01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:15,040 Speaker 2: on his podcast today playing the defense attorney for Kevin Durant, 1116 01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:18,280 Speaker 2: looking forward to hearing what Nick Wright has saved out 1117 01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:21,320 Speaker 2: that on his next show of What's Right. So I 1118 01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:25,640 Speaker 2: sent that to our group and Kara, who I inaccurately 1119 01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:28,480 Speaker 2: called an intern earlier. I apologize. I don't know why 1120 01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:30,600 Speaker 2: I did it. It's probably it would be totally honest, 1121 01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:34,120 Speaker 2: probably my own latent, you know, need sexism somewhere in 1122 01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:36,320 Speaker 2: my brain. I didn't mean to do that. Care I apologized, 1123 01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:41,160 Speaker 2: Kara did an amazing job, and within a half hour 1124 01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:45,439 Speaker 2: texted the group I found it. Thirty minutes into the episode, 1125 01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:48,320 Speaker 2: he said, it's a new segment. I'm calling defense attorney 1126 01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:50,560 Speaker 2: and lays out the case for another thirty minutes and 1127 01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:54,760 Speaker 2: close out his argument by addressing the jerky. So now 1128 01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:58,040 Speaker 2: we can take the full shot. As you can see, 1129 01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:00,760 Speaker 2: we on this show have been doing something called Nick 1130 01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:05,720 Speaker 2: Wright Public Defender for a couple months now. We have props, bang, 1131 01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:09,200 Speaker 2: the gabble demands, he's wearing a wig, we have a 1132 01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:14,720 Speaker 2: gabbl we have all of it. So the question is 1133 01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:21,080 Speaker 2: do I think Bill Simmons stole this idea? And now, 1134 01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:26,880 Speaker 2: in a meta version of sports media breaking the fifth wall, 1135 01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:32,840 Speaker 2: I am going to play Nick Wright Public Defender defending 1136 01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:39,800 Speaker 2: Bill Simmons, Bill Simmons Defense Attorney. Segment, Ladies and gentlemen 1137 01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:43,200 Speaker 2: of the jury, is a very simple case. This is 1138 01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:50,000 Speaker 2: a case of reputation, history and an incredibly crowded media landscape. 1139 01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:55,680 Speaker 2: Does my client, mister Simmons, acknowledge that it is very 1140 01:01:55,720 --> 01:02:00,320 Speaker 2: clear we have video evidence that the prosecution is shown 1141 01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:06,000 Speaker 2: you that yes, there's another podcast called What's Right with 1142 01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:13,040 Speaker 2: Nick Right that does a segment that is essentially exactly 1143 01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:16,200 Speaker 2: what my client did. Yes, there is, and the prosecution 1144 01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:21,560 Speaker 2: also showed you that my client, Bill Simmons follows Nick 1145 01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:25,560 Speaker 2: Right on social media. And the prosecution also showed you 1146 01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:30,080 Speaker 2: that my client, Bill Simmons has a longstanding, very close 1147 01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:33,400 Speaker 2: relationship with a man named Kevin Wilds, who is one 1148 01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:37,120 Speaker 2: of Nick Wright's co hosts on television, and they have 1149 01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:45,560 Speaker 2: built what appears to be a very compelling, but superficial 1150 01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:52,600 Speaker 2: and totally speculative case that my client, a man who 1151 01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:55,520 Speaker 2: sold a media company for over one hundred million dollars, 1152 01:02:56,360 --> 01:03:02,920 Speaker 2: a man who is universally acknowledged as the first major 1153 01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:07,440 Speaker 2: successful sports podcaster in the world, and a man whose 1154 01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:10,560 Speaker 2: podcast is still the most listened to sports podcast in 1155 01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:16,240 Speaker 2: the world, stole something. As opposed to the far more 1156 01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:23,720 Speaker 2: likely explanation, which is that two smart people had similar 1157 01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:27,560 Speaker 2: ideas and were unaware of what the other person was doing. 1158 01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:32,800 Speaker 2: My client, Bill Simmons, is running a company, running an empire, 1159 01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:36,800 Speaker 2: some would say, And while he testified that he does 1160 01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:40,400 Speaker 2: have affection and holds Nick Wright in high regard, is 1161 01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:45,040 Speaker 2: it fair to say he possibly does not have the 1162 01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:49,760 Speaker 2: What's Right show on his daily podcast listens. Is it 1163 01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:55,640 Speaker 2: possible that, much like we have demonstrated, Nick Wright once 1164 01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:59,160 Speaker 2: upon a time was accused of stealing a catchphrase about 1165 01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:03,680 Speaker 2: the Brooklyn Nets, calling them the Bitcoin of the NBA, 1166 01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:07,760 Speaker 2: an idea and NFT. Nick Wright was accused of stealing 1167 01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:12,400 Speaker 2: that from actually another friend of Bill Simmons, won Dave Jacoby. 1168 01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:16,400 Speaker 2: And what prosecution didn't tell you is Nick and mister 1169 01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:21,080 Speaker 2: Jacoby discussed that after the fact, and mister Jacoby totally 1170 01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:25,720 Speaker 2: took Nick at his word that the exact thing that 1171 01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:30,840 Speaker 2: happened here happened there. Two smart creative people had similar ideas. 1172 01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:35,440 Speaker 2: Now there is a third party that is the connective 1173 01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:39,920 Speaker 2: tissue between Nick allegedly stealing from Jacoby and Bill allegedly 1174 01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,840 Speaker 2: stealing from Nick. That person does happen to be Kevin Wilds, 1175 01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:46,200 Speaker 2: who has worked with all parties, his friends with All Parties, 1176 01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:49,440 Speaker 2: produced a television show for Dave Jacoby, is on Bill 1177 01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:52,720 Speaker 2: Simmons podcast, and works with Nick Wright. So is it 1178 01:04:52,840 --> 01:05:03,240 Speaker 2: further possible that in relationships discussions that Kevin Wilde's unintentionally 1179 01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:10,600 Speaker 2: unknowingly seeded ideas or thoughts into the brains of Nick Wright, 1180 01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:17,040 Speaker 2: Dave Jacoby, Bill Simmons just in passing references that similar 1181 01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:26,120 Speaker 2: to the movie Inception, which you know the accuser, Nick 1182 01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:28,640 Speaker 2: Wright has a very you know, maybe asked him after 1183 01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:31,720 Speaker 2: the show media about seeing the inception with his son, 1184 01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:34,520 Speaker 2: a young son, Demonse, and what Nick Write's mental state 1185 01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:36,480 Speaker 2: was at the time. See if you want to believe 1186 01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:39,520 Speaker 2: that he is the most upstanding member of the community, 1187 01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:42,080 Speaker 2: but we don't. We're not here to defame him. We're 1188 01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:49,840 Speaker 2: here to defend or thank you that inceptioned ideas into brains. 1189 01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:54,720 Speaker 2: Or is it possible that it's just hey as fun 1190 01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:58,120 Speaker 2: and funny as the Nick Wright public defender bit is, 1191 01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:04,120 Speaker 2: it's not exactly reinventing the wheel, it's just defending an 1192 01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:06,720 Speaker 2: unpopular take and giving it a name. 1193 01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:11,360 Speaker 5: Okay, so there's there's often sense that he missed the 1194 01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:12,720 Speaker 5: public defender segments. 1195 01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:16,920 Speaker 2: I would say, it's overwhelming your honor, and we have 1196 01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:22,840 Speaker 2: submitted inde evidence Bill Simmons phone, and you can you 1197 01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:26,160 Speaker 2: can scrape the metadata and what you will see, what 1198 01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:28,800 Speaker 2: you will not see. Pardon me is a subscription to 1199 01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:32,360 Speaker 2: the What's Right Show. We know that hurts nick rights feelings. 1200 01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:36,200 Speaker 2: Who thinks the entire world is subscribed to it. My client, unfortunately, 1201 01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:41,160 Speaker 2: is not. So while the two segments are incredibly similar, 1202 01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:45,120 Speaker 2: there was no theft here. This was just two smart 1203 01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:49,360 Speaker 2: people who had the same idea. Your honor, I rest 1204 01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:55,480 Speaker 2: my case, bang the gabble. I think people are shocked 1205 01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:58,680 Speaker 2: that that was my That's the route I took there. 1206 01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:01,040 Speaker 2: That's what I truly believe. I do know't the Simmons 1207 01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:03,840 Speaker 2: ain't stealing nothing from me. This is and by the way, 1208 01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:07,200 Speaker 2: I couldn't. Now I will, I will after doing a 1209 01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:09,720 Speaker 2: full defensive Bill, I will make him a little angry. 1210 01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:13,000 Speaker 2: I did this morning. Try to listen to it, and 1211 01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:15,440 Speaker 2: I made it. Carras said it was thirty minutes. I 1212 01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:17,920 Speaker 2: got through the first twenty two minutes of it, and 1213 01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:21,600 Speaker 2: I love Bill's podcast. But then in his defensive Kevin Durant, 1214 01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:24,160 Speaker 2: he tried to make a case that Katie going to 1215 01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:27,720 Speaker 2: the Warriors was similar to Lebron going back to the 1216 01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:30,120 Speaker 2: Caves who had just had the number one pick three 1217 01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:32,120 Speaker 2: or four years. So I turned it off. I was like, 1218 01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:34,680 Speaker 2: I can't do with the Lebron slander. Bill. I can't. 1219 01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:38,040 Speaker 2: But I don't think he stole anything from me. All right, Shit, 1220 01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:40,200 Speaker 2: to wrap the show. Should I tell the Inception story 1221 01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:43,919 Speaker 2: or not? Oh? Since I already referenced in a drug 1222 01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:45,160 Speaker 2: use story from you, should I tell it? 1223 01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:47,880 Speaker 4: I was about to say it, Hey man, you might 1224 01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:48,200 Speaker 4: as well. 1225 01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:50,520 Speaker 2: All right, if people of this podcast over an hour long, 1226 01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:54,720 Speaker 2: if people made it here, they deserve this. What your 1227 01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:59,160 Speaker 2: did Inception come out? I gotta look it up. Twenty No, 1228 01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:04,800 Speaker 2: gotta be or twenty ten. Twenty ten? Okay, So your 1229 01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:07,000 Speaker 2: mom and I are just dating at the time, we're 1230 01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:11,320 Speaker 2: not even engaged. We live in Kansas City. Yeah, and 1231 01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:14,160 Speaker 2: I really want and this was back when I smoked 1232 01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:19,679 Speaker 2: weed and I really wanted to see Inception. So twenty ten, 1233 01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:25,400 Speaker 2: you were eleven years Yeah, eleven years old, and there 1234 01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:29,880 Speaker 2: was a movie theater walking distance from our apartment in 1235 01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:34,919 Speaker 2: Kansas City. So Demanse and I walk to see Inception 1236 01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:39,280 Speaker 2: and we get there and we get there early, buy food, 1237 01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:41,240 Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh, I got to use the bathroom 1238 01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:46,760 Speaker 2: and I went outside. I smoked a little weed because 1239 01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:50,200 Speaker 2: I'm about to see Inceptions. Yeah, I'm there with the 1240 01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:54,639 Speaker 2: base from the movie ends and it's hard to follow 1241 01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:58,400 Speaker 2: if you're an adult. He's eleven and we I'm like, 1242 01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:01,920 Speaker 2: did you like it. He was like, that was I 1243 01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:08,200 Speaker 2: think the worst and me just ripped. I was just slabbering. 1244 01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:14,240 Speaker 2: Me just ripped. I'm like, really, I thought it was unbelievable. 1245 01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:17,759 Speaker 2: And mon say, obviously at the time, had no idea. 1246 01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:19,800 Speaker 2: And then I told you the truth about this a 1247 01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:20,719 Speaker 2: few years ago. 1248 01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:24,120 Speaker 5: Man, because I could have stayed at home, dude, Like, 1249 01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:28,600 Speaker 5: I was, no, Man, you gonna go in there and 1250 01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:31,519 Speaker 5: get faded and have me watch this freaking Star trek 1251 01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:32,160 Speaker 5: Ass movie. 1252 01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:35,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, like, what the hell am I doing here right now? 1253 01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:38,840 Speaker 2: Man? That was not my proudest moment. Oh god. I 1254 01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:40,920 Speaker 2: was twenty five. I didn't really know what I was doing. 1255 01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:44,559 Speaker 2: I was trying to make it work. Uh, And I 1256 01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:47,080 Speaker 2: you know, again, I'm not that super proud of it, 1257 01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:50,160 Speaker 2: but it is what it is, and that movie was unbelievable. 1258 01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:55,680 Speaker 2: Was unbelievable. We'll talk to you guys on Thursday.