1 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Garrett Downey 2 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: here with Clifton Brown. 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 2: Today. 4 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: We're excited to sit down with Ben Select from ESPN 5 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: and Ben, let's talk a little bit about the Ravens 6 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: in this offseason. Obviously it's been an off season a 7 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,959 Speaker 1: change for this group with jesse Minzer coming in. From 8 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: your view, what kind of impact will the arrival of 9 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: jesse Minzer or this new coaching staff have on this team. 10 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited and I think that you know, I 11 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 2: was a guy who believed a lot in Harball and 12 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 2: I would have felt, you know, great about another year 13 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 2: of Harball. But obviously they decide to make the shift 14 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 2: and when they do so, I think they do it 15 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 2: with an idea in mind of what Mintor can be 16 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 2: as the head coach, because they had the familiarity and 17 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: they wanted to kind of get in before you know, 18 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 2: the gain was gone as it is now. Mintor, you know, 19 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 2: with everything that he talks about in the way that 20 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 2: he speaks, heavily analytically minded, has a modern view on defense, 21 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 2: right think, so I think is the way that Mike 22 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 2: McDonald did all extremely exciting stuff. You go and you say, 23 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 2: all right, like what are you gonna be able to 24 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: do with the OC spot? Who do you know? Right? 25 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 2: How deep is your NFL role? That actually haven't been 26 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: here for very long. Declen Doyle was a big name now, right, 27 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 2: and this was a higher I think a lot of 28 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 2: people excited. And what Declan's done in his background with Lamar, 29 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 2: like that's a very unique player relative to what he's 30 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 2: done in the past. And so your impressed always filled 31 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: out the staff got weave back in the building like 32 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: that's you know, another enormous deal for that defense. And 33 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 2: so everything Minter's doing so far to me is the 34 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: sort of stuff that you'd expect, you know, first year 35 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 2: head coach make a high impact. And then you know, 36 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 2: defense of what he did with the Chargers in terms 37 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 2: of the talents that they had and the juice he 38 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 2: got out of that squeeze, Like you know, there's a 39 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: reason he was the head coaching candidate. So right now 40 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 2: all the stock up. But you know, every first time 41 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 2: head coaches one February ain't hard to win February say 42 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 2: some nice things. You wearing nice tie. You know you 43 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 2: talk about player. Since he talked to me in April, 44 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 2: talked to me in August, talk to me in December. 45 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 2: We'll see how he does. 46 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 3: Yes, go ahead, specifically defensively, hoes, Jesse's going to be 47 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 3: calling the plays. Told you what he did with the Chargers. 48 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 3: What can we look for, What does a Jesse mintor 49 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 3: defense look like? And with some of the personnel, the 50 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 3: baby that particularly Kyle Hamilton, Yeah, what can we expect 51 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 3: to see and how they're utilized. 52 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: Yep. 53 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 2: So it's gonna be it's similar to a lot of 54 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 2: what Mike did right where you're gonna be playing from 55 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 2: a lot of these two high structures, You're gonna be 56 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: playing from a lot of these light boxes. Jesse was 57 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 2: I think even more zone oriented. But some of that 58 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 2: was the coverage corners that they had available to them 59 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 2: in the Chargers relative to what you might do when 60 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 2: he was with the Ravens and then later when he 61 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 2: was with the Seahawks. You brought up what you did 62 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 2: with Kyle Hamilton. You do whatever you want, right, this 63 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 2: is Kyle Hamilton, now, you know. That's the fun about 64 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,519 Speaker 2: having the player. The way that they played with Derwin 65 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: is they played Darwin mostly in the nickel and they 66 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 2: didn't want Derwin to play on the edge as much 67 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 2: there with the Chargers as you saw Kyle do with 68 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 2: the Ravens. They also had much better run defending edge 69 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 2: rushers there with the Chargers. They had Khalil Mack, who 70 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 2: obviously you know, he's kind of been the goat of 71 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 2: run defending from that position there for his time in 72 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 2: the league. And they also had Tulley two below to 73 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 2: who's a really really good run defender from that spot. 74 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 2: Now you go to Baltimore where I think the run 75 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 2: defense from the edge rusher position and figuring that out 76 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,399 Speaker 2: relative to you know, you need some speed your pass 77 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 2: rushers on the field, that's been a challenge the last 78 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 2: couple of years. And so I think the Mintor, who's 79 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 2: a sharp guy, is not just going to copypaste what 80 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 2: he did with the Chargers, where they had their edges 81 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 2: and they had Derwin and the roles were a little 82 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,519 Speaker 2: bit more defined. I think you're gonna see Yle still 83 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: spend a lot of time there playing in the box 84 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 2: and then how much safety we see kind of his 85 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 2: conditional on what happens to the Lohi Gilman, what happens 86 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 2: with Ardarius Washington, and kind of how the rush that 87 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 2: safety room gets filled out. 88 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: You mentioned the edges and getting more pass rush is 89 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: a huge focus for the Ravenst. It wasn't good enough 90 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: last year. Now one of the guys who was initially 91 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: in Baltimore or dafe oways up going out to the 92 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: Chargers and ends up having a really good season with 93 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: Jesse out there the second half of the season. So 94 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: as you look at the Ravens, we're here at the combine. 95 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: Part of it's going to be draft and adding to 96 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: the team to the draft. Is it bringing in new 97 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: pieces and adding in that way? Is it scheme adjustments 98 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: in the way that Jesse's going to be able to 99 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: use guys as all the above. How do you view that? 100 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, So that the one of the calling cards of 101 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 2: this defense when it was Mike was we can get 102 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 2: pressure without edge rushers. And then Mike leaves and it's like, 103 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 2: man kind of sucks not how many edge rushers right this? 104 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 2: You know, we'd like to be a little bit better here. 105 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 2: Jesse had just a much better edge room from day 106 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: one with the Chargers, right We're talking about two the 107 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 2: in Khalil, and then they went they added away and 108 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 2: they were able to be a more consistent pressure with 109 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 2: four team. I think you're going to see that happen 110 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 2: again when we look at playoff football in the NFL Seahawks, 111 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 2: what they achieved defensively where they don't have like an 112 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 2: elite pass rushing guy on the outside, they don't have 113 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 2: a tense plus sack player there on the outside, is 114 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 2: very very abrative relative to the history of playoff football. Typically, 115 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 2: playoff football, you got to be able to pressure with four. 116 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 2: You gotta have four down. You put them there, they rush, 117 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 2: they win, right, Mike's a special cat. Mike was able 118 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 2: to kind of pull it off, you know, coloring in 119 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 2: the margins. So I think I think your your most 120 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 2: common approach is going to be they're going to invest 121 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: in the position. Now, Oh, it makes sense if and 122 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 2: only if you feel good about the run defense you 123 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 2: have with that position. Because Away, even when he had 124 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 2: that breakout of the Chargers, he was only playing about 125 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 2: fifty percent of the snaps. Right, They were putting him 126 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 2: out there on pass rush downs. They put him out 127 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 2: there for those opportunities on base downs. They wanted to 128 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 2: have Mac and Tooley on the field. And so while 129 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 2: an Oway reunion, both from a Baltimore perspective, and a 130 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 2: mentor perspective makes sense. You still have a problem of Okay, 131 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 2: who's going to be my base down player on edge rusherdowns? 132 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 2: You know of Fred Rusher at that run defense spot. 133 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 2: Is it's going to be a Tavis Robinson. Isn't going 134 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 2: to be a Kyle van Noy? Do we feel good 135 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 2: enough about that that room right there? And so while 136 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 2: all the way back would be fun and we know 137 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 2: that Mintor knows how to make him work, it's it 138 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 2: would be an incomplete recovery, incomplete you know, turn around, 139 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 2: you'd still need more at. 140 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 3: The spot I've got if I can switch to offense. Yeah, 141 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 3: Declan Duel obviously mentioned him. Obviously he's got some pieces 142 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 3: of work with Lamar, you know, say Flowers, Derek Henvy again, 143 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 3: the characteristics of Declan and how you might see him 144 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 3: using those pieces and what he's trying to accomplish offensively 145 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 3: with the rings. 146 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,559 Speaker 2: Yes, So I think that the beautiful thing about coaching 147 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 2: for Lamar Jackson is that Lamar is an offense onto himself. 148 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 2: But Lamar does in terms of the math that he 149 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 2: affects in the running game and the way that he 150 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 2: makes it challenging to play in the box with numbers 151 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 2: in the running game, Like, there's no way to not 152 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 2: have a running game with Lamar Jackson at quarterback. You'd 153 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 2: have to be like, I'd have to be in charge 154 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 2: in or if her running that with Lamar Jackson. So 155 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 2: you already have that kind of in place because of 156 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 2: the challenge he presents in the box. What that allows 157 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 2: you to do is then dedicate so many more resources 158 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 2: in terms of your prestat motions and your personnel packages 159 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 2: and all the little dials and levers that we twist 160 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 2: allows you to put so much more into the passing game. 161 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 2: And so when you think about, Okay, how do we 162 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 2: want to throw the football? Do we want to be 163 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 2: you know as he was with the Bears where they 164 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 2: don't throw it a lot, but when they do, they 165 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 2: throw it down the field explosively. Okay, so we're gonna 166 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 2: use Zae to clear some more stuff out. You know, 167 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 2: Mark Andrews is gonna be on vertical routes for us. 168 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 2: Do we need another big body wide receiver is gonna 169 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 2: win down the field? Go get him in free agency? 170 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 2: Or you look at Declan's background with Sean Pion and 171 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 2: the Saints and you say, oh, this is a team 172 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 2: though a little bit more four wide and five out 173 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 2: into the concept, a little bit more spread, and they 174 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 2: throw these swings and these screens and the RPOs. So 175 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 2: we have Zay's going to be a yards over the 176 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 2: catch guy for us. We need to get a better 177 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 2: blocking receiver. We need to get another guy with side 178 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 2: so we can win on some of these slants, some 179 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 2: of these quick breaking routes. And so Declan has to 180 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 2: decide identity wise what he wants to be in the 181 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 2: passing game, which requires sitting down with Lamar. Sitting down, 182 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 2: you know, looking at the receiver room, look at the 183 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 2: offensive line as well, how well can they protect, and 184 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 2: then you're going to see them, I think, make some 185 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 2: additions to the wide receiver in the tight end room 186 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 2: to follow that character in that nature, and then you 187 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 2: got to be able to marry that passing game with 188 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 2: what Lamar gives you in the rushing attack. That's the base, 189 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 2: that's the foundation, is Lamar in the running game and 190 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 2: everything kind of you know, flowers and blossoms from there. 191 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: Something that Jesse talked about here of the combine. He 192 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: did an interview with Rich Ails and he talked about 193 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,799 Speaker 1: being able to hand the ball to Henry with Lamar 194 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 1: under center and then allowing that to open up other things. 195 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 1: If the Raves end up using Lamar under center more, 196 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: how does that affect the rest of the offense. 197 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember watching Lamar at Louisville and Bobby Petrino's offense, 198 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 2: and he was one of the best middle of the 199 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 2: field throwers that we had seen in the college ranks. 200 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 2: And nobody talked about him like this because at the 201 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 2: time we all thought it was the real A lot 202 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 2: of people were saying he was a wide receiver. He 203 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 2: was not a wide receiver, but nobody, you know, I 204 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 2: Peop would say, Oh, if he's a quarterback, then he's 205 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 2: a mobile guy and a scrambled rying whatever. And he 206 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 2: was just dropping back in the pocket three step and 207 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 2: out three sepen out three. Some now layering throws over linebackers. Look, 208 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 2: this is unbelievable, Like, how was the guy doing this? 209 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 2: With Roman, they tried to be able to be an 210 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 2: under center or just be a play action team. Excuse me. 211 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 2: They would then throw over the middle of the field. 212 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,119 Speaker 2: Roman's kind of always struggled in theassing game design aspect 213 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 2: of the game. They were never under center that much 214 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 2: because he'd likes to be in the pistol. And then 215 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 2: with Monkin, it was something that was a flavor of 216 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 2: their offense. It wasn't like, you know the full nature 217 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 2: of their offense. If Declan were asking me tomorrow, which 218 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 2: is not but if you were asking me tomorrow, you 219 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 2: know what should I be doing here on offense? And 220 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 2: Gay Lamar under center, get Derek Henry on these downhill paths, 221 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 2: and then be an under center play action team and 222 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 2: throw these these intermediate breakers right and do a lot 223 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 2: of what you saw DJ Moore and Roe Madones they 224 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 2: succeed with in Chicago with Caleb Williams, which is these 225 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 2: long dropbacks and then they're running in breaking routes that 226 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 2: are breaking sixteen, eighteen, twenty yards down the field because 227 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 2: you have a guy who armtown wise, I mean, Lamar's 228 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 2: release is so fast and the ball flies like. He's 229 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 2: not a Caleb caliber of an arm, but he's up 230 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 2: there in terms of talent. He can throw these layered 231 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 2: throws the middle of the field. And so I would 232 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 2: hope that they are under center, more that they condense 233 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 2: the formation, more that they run those in breakers off 234 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 2: play action force linebackers to step down respect Derek Henry 235 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 2: and then throw over the top of them. It is 236 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 2: tricky for Zacasey's not big, right, and so the guy 237 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 2: you want running that crossing pattern, you want to be 238 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 2: a bigger body, so he's gonna take hits, and you 239 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 2: don't really want Zay to be in that spot. So 240 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 2: it does require getting I think a really good wide 241 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 2: receiver two slash one, you know, kind of tandem player 242 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 2: two day Flowers, so you can trust that guy more 243 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 2: over the middle of the field and then they can 244 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 2: do more vertical and outbreaking stuff. 245 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 3: Well, that leads me to another question. If Fodorium is 246 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 3: at fourteen, let's assume Tyler Linnerbaum is coming back with 247 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 3: We certainly don't know for sure, but even if he 248 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 3: came back fourteen, you had a chance with Draft vega 249 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 3: Ione who's supposed to be the top guard or one 250 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 3: of these many wide receivers with the Ravens seem to 251 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 3: be linked with, Which would you go with? And why? 252 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 2: Vega with that question? Because the offensive line was such 253 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 2: a a at times debilitating issue last year, right where 254 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 2: we've talked a lot about how cool Linda Mars or 255 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 2: a broad and game unto himself and O Declan Doyle 256 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 2: is so cool. All this stuff is very exciting. You 257 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 2: know how you lampooned all of it in one fell 258 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 2: swoops you you have poor line play right because they 259 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 2: just can't get to any of this stuff. Guard was 260 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 2: just was a serious problem for this team last year. 261 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 2: And like you brought up if Linderbaum leads, now you've 262 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 2: got questions all over the interior and that's just a 263 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 2: recipe for we should be better than we are, but 264 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 2: offensive disaster, which I think you know there are times 265 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 2: this year where you can describe the Ravens that we 266 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 2: should be a lot better than we are, but this 267 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 2: offense just cannot be consistent. So to me, I'm going 268 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 2: to ione it's also the case that we see in 269 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 2: the NFL Draft year over year you can get receivers 270 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 2: around two, round three, Round four, and round five who 271 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 2: can fill roles for US for agency. The same thing 272 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 2: where it's a deep year of wide receiver Ravens fans 273 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 2: probably taken tire of hearing this because they've been cycling 274 00:09:58,040 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 2: wide receiver threes for years now and then not done 275 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 2: so successful. You're Odell Beckham Junior and you're and you're 276 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 2: DeAndre Hopkins. But in theory, you should be able to 277 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 2: get secondary targets in the middle rounds of the draft 278 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 2: and in the middle tier free agency and be successful 279 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 2: that way. It's something that the cost has got to 280 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 2: be able to solve modern NFL. You need to have 281 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 2: three targets, Like guys who can seriously take on volume, 282 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 2: can create explosives. And they try to do that with 283 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 2: with you know, Zay the first round pick on her, 284 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 2: Shad Mark Andresisia likely never came to pass. 285 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: They got to keep investing. Is that would that be 286 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: your top area? Like if you can get any position, 287 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: like what are the Ravens ded magic bullet? What is 288 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: it for you? It's offensive line absolutely. 289 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 2: I mean like the they very reasonably and very understandably said, 290 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 2: you know, we're going to at drafting, developing, and then 291 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 2: those guys go get paid, and Ben Powers are gonna 292 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 2: go get paid, and Johnson's gonna go get paid, and 293 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 2: we's gonna keep on doing it and doing it and 294 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 2: doing it. It was it was a reasonable risk to take. 295 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 2: Every team's got to take team building risks. You have 296 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 2: to be able to save money somewhere. Understand why they 297 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 2: did it. They didn't go great, right, and so now 298 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 2: you have seen, you know, you're you've seen what Lamar 299 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 2: has been when he gets banged up here on the 300 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 2: lower leg. You've seen, you know, how impactful Derek Henry 301 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 2: can be for you. But then you've also seen that 302 00:10:57,920 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 2: he's getting a little bit longer in the tooth. Like 303 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 2: if you're going to continue to win with Lamar's mobility, 304 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 2: with Henry as a high volume runner, that you do 305 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 2: not have times screw around with the offensive line right now, right, 306 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 2: it's got to be good tomorrow. And so to me, 307 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 2: like I would be any like firstly, like I know 308 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 2: they've given Linderbaum a market setting extension. They're trying to 309 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 2: get that job done. I'd be really aggressively trying to 310 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 2: not let him it opening free agency day. And then 311 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 2: I'd be investing in the in the guard spot. I 312 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,719 Speaker 2: wouldn't be, you know, too afraid of also investing in 313 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 2: the tackle spots. With Ronnie being his age, his injuries, 314 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 2: I think Roger has had his good moments, has had 315 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 2: a tough moments at right tackle. Like I would be 316 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 2: anyonal help and offensive line, I'd be interested in it. 317 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 2: You you've been very high on Lamar throughout his career 318 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 2: in excellent Blair so good. Yeah, you just one of 319 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 2: the guys that early on you were you were, you 320 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 2: were on just how good he could be. 321 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: What is your what do you view for him this 322 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: year beyond? Like what what's the next step you know 323 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: for him in this offense? 324 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 2: YEP with Mahomes, with Josh Allen, with Lamar Jackson. It 325 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 2: has been the same thing for each quarterback aver stages 326 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 2: in their career. We know you can put on the 327 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 2: big s, bet on the Superman cape, nice red and blue. 328 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 2: Can you put on the Clark Kane glasses? 329 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 3: Right? 330 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 2: Are you willing to at times reduce your role and 331 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 2: reduce your impact in this offense and just let other 332 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 2: people manage it? And I think with a new offensive coordinator, 333 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 2: you're gonna see Lamar be challenged in that way where 334 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 2: the expectation is going to be that he's better at 335 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 2: calibrating to ween to be Superman when to be Clark Kent. 336 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 2: If he can do that, he's going to take the 337 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 2: step forward. 338 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 3: Even though the Ravens you signed Mark Andrews, they could 339 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 3: lose asay likely Charlie cole Er. 340 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 2: Charlie Cole and might go so good Charlie Colera. Someone's 341 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 2: got to block at the tight end right, He's like 342 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 2: the best blocking tight end. He also wears the big, 343 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 2: the big nick Bossa helmets. He is always easy to find, 344 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 2: the season, the spot and then they love him, you know, 345 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 2: they they you know what Ricard used to be for them. 346 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 2: Obviously they still have Recard, but in terms of like 347 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 2: that really impactful six blocker man, Charlie Coler, I know, 348 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 2: I know they want him back. I know they value 349 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 2: Charlie's a good player. He is. 350 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 3: If they've doubled dip though the Ravens in the draft 351 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 3: with tight ends, could this be another season when they 352 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 3: do that? And if they do, how much could that help? 353 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 3: Lamar maybe awful with the Clark can't classes have a target. 354 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 2: So it's interesting because it's if they go that way, 355 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 2: then it's probably Declan sticking to the one year he 356 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 2: had in Chicago where they were a really heavy tight 357 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,319 Speaker 2: end personnal team and they want to go under center, 358 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 2: that's the case. Your guys better be able to block right. 359 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 2: They have to be legitimate threats. And this year for 360 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 2: the draft, it is not a good year. For blocking 361 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 2: tight ends. It's just it's even a free agency with 362 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 2: like likely and with Chicka Conquo like it's an undersized 363 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 2: tight end for agency group. And then the draft is 364 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 2: the same thing. And so there's Sam Rouse from Stanford 365 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 2: is a solid blocking tight end that hopefully is going 366 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 2: to be good enough kind of as a receiver moving down. 367 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 2: Cincinnati's got a tight end who's big enough to block. 368 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 2: He doesn't really know how to do it just yet. 369 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 2: Ohio State's also got to have Max Claire's got you know, 370 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 2: good size to him, but in general has not been 371 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 2: the sort of blocker's like him to be. But he's 372 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 2: big enough to do it. It's a tough year, so 373 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 2: if they if they double dip, it will likely be 374 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 2: the case where they go and they get one of 375 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 2: these you know Eli Stowers out of Vanderbilt. He's unbelievable 376 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 2: mover sort of types, you know, a receiver down the field, 377 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 2: vertical element, play action pass. But then they have to 378 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 2: go get somebody who you know can replace Charlie could 379 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 2: be an a packful blocker. 380 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: Last one Ben. When you look at this team, the 381 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: Ravens having expectation of being a team that's in the 382 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: playoffs and in the mix. Of course, that's that's part 383 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: of the reason for the coaching change, is that they 384 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: weren't able to get to the postseason this year. As 385 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: you look at this team coming into this year, do 386 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: you think that they'll be right there in the thick 387 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: of the AFC playoff race and the thick of the 388 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: AFC North, you know, championship contention. What's your view of 389 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: this team big picture? 390 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 2: One hundred percent yes, because of eight right, Like, and 391 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 2: this year was a year where the elite quarterbacks didn't 392 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 2: show up in the postseason to the same degree we're 393 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 2: accustomed to seeing. So there's been a lot of like 394 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 2: wise guy discourse like you know, my my ilk, where 395 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 2: it's like, oh, do you not need a lead quarterback? No? No, 396 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 2: yes you do. Like this is like, you know, the 397 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 2: widest and best path to the NFL playoffs to the 398 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 2: Super Bowl is still do you have a guy at 399 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 2: quarterback that just can win you a game? Period? Right 400 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 2: And while you know, Ravens fans might rightfully say, Okay, 401 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 2: he hasn't done it for us yet, he hasn't done 402 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 2: in the playoffs. Why haven't we had that moment? I 403 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 2: understand that there's been the close misses, there's been fumbles 404 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 2: of the one, there's been drops of the goal line, 405 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 2: like there's a lot to you know, get into there. 406 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 2: But Lamar to me is emphatically right, there's four guys 407 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 2: that you're comfortable who just win you a game and 408 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 2: it's my homes aln Lamar Burrow and he's one of 409 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 2: the four, and that alone puts you in contention conversation. 410 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 2: We saw this year what you know, issues in team 411 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 2: building and struggles on the defensive side of the ball 412 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 2: and the offensive line what they can do to hurt 413 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 2: the team. And I think that it was a bit 414 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 2: of a wake up year for the organization overall. And 415 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 2: you see a coaching staff change accordingly, right, that was 416 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 2: a surprising thing to see in Baltimore. I think that 417 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 2: they didn't realize how low the floor can get when 418 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 2: they have a player of this caliber. But that doesn't 419 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 2: change how high the ceiling can be. Right, which the 420 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 2: ceiling when you have got Klamar Jackson is he has 421 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 2: an MVP caliber season, we go contend for Super Bowl. 422 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 2: That should be the case every year until I see otherwise. 423 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: MVP season super Bowl contention. That sounds good. 424 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 3: To me. Yeah, that's. 425 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 2: Get to work in February. Nice long season, awesome, Well, 426 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 2: I appreciate your time. 427 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. You can check out all events 428 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: coverage on ESPN. Thank you so much. 429 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 2: Thank you guys. 430 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: Ye, welcome back into Lounge presented by DraftKings. We're coming 431 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: to you from the seat Geeks Studio. DraftKings was an 432 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: official sports betting partner of the Baltimore Ravens DraftKings sports book. 433 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: The Crown is Yours. Well, big thanks to Ben Solak 434 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: for joining us. Is always uh, you know, good to 435 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: talk with him and you can read and watch his 436 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: content on ESPN and hearing from him, it just seems 437 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: like more evidence that the draft and the offseason overall 438 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: could be a big opportunity for the Ravens to invest 439 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: in the trenches, especially in the offensive line. It's clear 440 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: that he thinks that is a big opportunity in a 441 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: priority for the Ravens and building this team. 442 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 3: Yes, no question, on both sides of the trenches. And 443 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 3: when you talk offensive line, the better the defensive line 444 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 3: is obviously as the better that is for Derek Henry 445 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 3: and Lamar Jackson and Ben has always been a big 446 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 3: booster of Lamar not only as an overall quarterback, was 447 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 3: purely as a passer. He was one of the first 448 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 3: to see that even at Louisville he had some gifts 449 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 3: as far as his ability to throw and read the field, 450 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 3: and obviously that has translated into the NFL. And one 451 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 3: of the keys to the Ravens is to get Lamar 452 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 3: back to being to a MVP dominant player. And yes, 453 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 3: if you have an offensive line in front of him, 454 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 3: then he becomes you know, as he says, Superman. Sometimes 455 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 3: you referred him sometimes you know putting on you know, 456 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 3: Clark kn't Glass. But Lamar is one of those special 457 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 3: players that when you have him, he can raise your 458 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 3: team to contending status. So yes, to get an outside 459 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 3: of perspective on the Ravens. We spend so much time 460 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 3: around them. I think it's always good to talk to 461 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 3: people who are around them as much and see something different, 462 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 3: things that maybe you don't see. 463 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, Also, like in hearing his view of this team 464 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: being in contention next year, clearly a believer that the 465 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:28,479 Speaker 1: Ravens could be right back in the thick of it 466 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 1: and at a high level. One of the things that 467 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 1: we said is the Ravens are going through the coaching 468 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: search this offseason, is that if you can elevate the 469 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 1: defense and get it playing to a better level than 470 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: it has the last two seasons, and then and then 471 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: even if you even if you were just to go 472 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 1: status quo on offense, which of course you want to improve, 473 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: but it's just for discussions sake, say that's the case, 474 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: Like you're already at a really good starting point. You're 475 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: already in the playoffs by doing that, and then where 476 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: you go from there you have that is up to 477 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: you obviously, But I think that with with bringing in 478 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 1: Jesse Meners a Hey and the adjustice that he's going 479 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: to make to this defense, I think that the Ravens 480 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,360 Speaker 1: are going to be at a really good foundational starting 481 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: point going into this year. And then you add in 482 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: the exciting new things that Declan Doyle could bring from 483 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 1: an offensive scheme standpoint, like he talked about maybe more 484 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 1: under center, maybe using the middle of the field more, 485 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: all of that, and I just think that it's fun 486 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: to think about the vision and where this team can 487 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: go with this new coaching staff. Right. 488 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 3: I think with both Jesse Menzer and Declan Doyle, they've 489 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 3: shown already an ability to get the most out of 490 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 3: the personnel regards of what type of personnel it is. 491 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 3: They have certain things and principles that they believe in, 492 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 3: but they can look at their personnel and say, Okay, 493 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 3: if I had something different, I would do this, but 494 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 3: this is what I have. So I'm going to do that. 495 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 3: Same with Declan Doyle. You know, if I have Lamar Jackson, 496 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 3: now I have Zay Flowers. So even though I had 497 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 3: success with the Bears, my style is going to be 498 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 3: tailored to what I have in Baltimore. I think both 499 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 3: of them are very adept at doing that. Obviously, what 500 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 3: they do at the combine, in the draft and bringing 501 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 3: in free agency new players. Once they have all their 502 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 3: pieces in place, they're going to tweak the system to 503 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 3: what they believe our players are the best. And so 504 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 3: that to me is the way you have to go. Now, 505 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 3: it's so difficult week after week to show different looks 506 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 3: and get people off balanced. You always have to be 507 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 3: thinking about new ways to use your personnel. Both of 508 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 3: these coaches, I think, in the entire coaching staff, I 509 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 3: think are going to be right on point week to week, 510 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 3: attacking different ways offensively and defensively. 511 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been excited by everything that I've heard at 512 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: the combine, from our in house coaching staff, scouting staff, 513 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: as well as some of the different media people that 514 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: we've talked to here. I just think that there's a 515 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 1: real belief in this team and what they're going to 516 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: be able to do this season, and I think that 517 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: the era is very much pointing up and I can't 518 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: wait to see it all come to fruition over the 519 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 1: course of the next few months. So as always, you 520 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 1: can email us at the Lounge at Ravens NFL dot net. 521 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: If you have not done so already, go ahead and 522 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: subscribe to the Ravens Lounge podcast wherever you get your 523 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: audio podcasts. You can also watch it on the Ravens 524 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: app and website and our YouTube channel. 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