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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, if you can hear my voice right now,

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Speaker 1: you are listening to Stradio Lab, the only podcast about

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Speaker 1: what is this podcast about? Thank you so much for asking.

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Speaker 1: I knew you were not going to stick that landing,

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Speaker 1: and I was here ready to spy. Every time I

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Speaker 1: try to start off this show, I say, baby, don't

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Speaker 1: think of anything, just talk and see what comes out.

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Speaker 1: And then I get halfway through a sentence and suddenly

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Speaker 1: my mouth gets dry, my mind gets empty, and the

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Speaker 1: words don't come. And yet George, my co worker, is

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Speaker 1: always there to support me. I actually wrote a song

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Speaker 1: about your experience um doing interest for this podcast, and

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Speaker 1: it's called Lose Yourself. His palms are sweaty, needs weak,

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Speaker 1: arms are heavy. There's vomit on his sweater already there

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Speaker 1: it is Sam, just vomited. It is interesting that you

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Speaker 1: vomit every time we started recording an episode of this podcast.

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Speaker 1: It just helps me talk better. Well, it's part of

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Speaker 1: your process, and I think a lot of people don't

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Speaker 1: respect that, but I've from the beginning. It's one of

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Speaker 1: the few things I do like about you is that

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Speaker 1: you vomited after every time you before and after, before

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Speaker 1: and after because it's it's what i'm doing. I need

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Speaker 1: like full mental clarity and uh and also I need

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Speaker 1: a full cleanse once I'm done. Well, yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: the idea of trying to focus on anything while there

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Speaker 1: are things inside of you. It's like a losing battle.

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Speaker 1: It's a losing battle because I'm I'm digesting, and it's

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Speaker 1: like when I'm digesting, that's all I'm doing, right, right,

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Speaker 1: you can't multitask. Yeah. So when I'm when I'm focusing

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Speaker 1: on this podcast, I'm throwing up beforehand so that I'm

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Speaker 1: not digesting. Yeah, I mean every time you read one

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Speaker 1: of those things that's like famous artists like morning rituals,

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Speaker 1: they all vomit. Yes, yeah, And I realize it's getting

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Speaker 1: into dangerous territory now, so we should stop. Wait how so, well,

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Speaker 1: you're winking at me like I should know, and I

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Speaker 1: really don't know. I just don't want to make light

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Speaker 1: of eating disorders. Well, it's literally not an a disorder.

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Speaker 1: It's a part of my process. And when it's artistic,

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Speaker 1: it's okay. Do you ever when Lady Gaga had the

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Speaker 1: vomit artist for swine, Oh my god, yes, that was

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Speaker 1: so stupid. Yeah, but you know what I want that again?

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Speaker 1: No you I mean I know what you mean, like

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Speaker 1: don't want vomit artists on stage with her again. But

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Speaker 1: it was it was so like trying so hard and

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Speaker 1: it wasn't Nobody was liking any element of it. It

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Speaker 1: was just like grasping at straws for like anything interesting

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Speaker 1: vomit artist while performing, like come on, I just forget that. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: it's it's tough like she did that and literally it

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Speaker 1: did not make an impact. Like two people tweeted about

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Speaker 1: it like, well, now we're talking about it on an

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Speaker 1: unreleased podcast six years later, so you tell me what

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Speaker 1: made an impact and went it in clearly should it?

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Speaker 1: Should it something? Right? In fact our guest tonight as

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Speaker 1: a vomit artist. God, I forgot about that. That was

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Speaker 1: such a moment. That was I mean, it was it

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Speaker 1: really It's touch Anomo and that era was just her

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Speaker 1: very just remember when she would kind of like dress

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Speaker 1: as a mermaid. Yeah, she would go all out, giving

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Speaker 1: like uh huh and it was like so sad, oh,

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Speaker 1: which is then what caused her to like for four

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Speaker 1: I know we fully failed her. We failed her, just

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Speaker 1: like when she gets a vomit artist like retweet that

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Speaker 1: right exactly, it's not that difficult. She paid the retweet,

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Speaker 1: but paid for a vomit artist like smash that RT.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that vomit artist has like on her

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Speaker 1: website like featured in the Lady Gaga YouTube video she

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Speaker 1: I absolutely, she definitely has a ted talk tedex ted

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Speaker 1: I would say it was where I envisioned her. Oh

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Speaker 1: my god. That's the end of our segment where we

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Speaker 1: discussed Lady Gaga's art pop era, which is a recurring

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Speaker 1: is a recurring Have you been um? Really incredible? Just

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Speaker 1: stunning um to die for? Oh you know What's I

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Speaker 1: was like, what, no? What? How have you been? Wow?

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Speaker 1: I just want to say right before coming in here,

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Speaker 1: have anything. Well, can I tell you something? Yes? Please

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Speaker 1: had said, what if I was like, can I tell

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Speaker 1: But here's what I was. I was thinking. I was

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Speaker 1: then I kind of like forgot even to ask you why. Well, Okay,

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Speaker 1: So I did this thing es which I had never

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Speaker 1: done before, which is I had a trip planned and

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Speaker 1: I was just going to be summer for one night

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Speaker 1: for comedy, and I uh didn't until the very last

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Speaker 1: And so I stayed in like a much nicer row

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Speaker 1: at all than I normally would for comedy. This is

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Speaker 1: a sponsor, Yeah, I have a discount code, but it's

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Speaker 1: just like, there is nothing nicer than staying in a

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Speaker 1: nice hotel. It is literally like and in fact, I

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Speaker 1: think you know how you know, when you make more

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Speaker 1: and more money, you get more and more out of touch.

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Speaker 1: That is kind of a common trope. Yeah, but I'm

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Speaker 1: sure I won't. Yeah, No, definitely you are and I are.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't count if you're gay, that doesn't happen. You

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Speaker 1: can't get out of time. That's all rich gay people are.

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Speaker 1: People are so morally good, have really good politics. Yes,

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Speaker 1: all rich gay people across the board. Yeah. In fact, um,

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Speaker 1: I just saw Sandra Bernhard endorsed Joe Biden and that's

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Speaker 1: not a joke. And actually you used to like there

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Speaker 1: used to be so much money in show business, you

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Speaker 1: I was, like, you can literally be famous from like

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Speaker 1: twenty years ago and you have enough money to still

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Speaker 1: support like Joe Biden, like with like a like think

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Speaker 1: you should tweet about how many how many times do

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Speaker 1: would have to do like five shows a night for

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Speaker 1: like seventeen years. Okay, I would agree, I I'm sure, Okay,

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Speaker 1: what level of money do you lose your mind? That's

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Speaker 1: a really good question. I think that Well, it also

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Speaker 1: I think depends on whether you have a family or not,

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Speaker 1: if you're like, you know, a billionaire living alone in

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Speaker 1: I would say, And that's how if you're a billionaire,

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Speaker 1: you're definitely unhappy and it's toxic. I think the best

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Speaker 1: gonna suddenly want to run for president. I know. I hate.

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Speaker 1: That's the worst part, Like to be a billionaire, like

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Speaker 1: Well that's how you know that they're that their brains

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Speaker 1: are broken. Yeah, it's upsetting, it's just and the thing

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Speaker 1: we need to text people more. And then people are like, yes, queen,

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be what You're like, Wow, what are you

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Speaker 1: will get really into fashion really, but not like not

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Speaker 1: when you're wearing something expensive, you can there's an aura

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Speaker 1: from ads, were making the money from uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: hear them. Yeah, I know. I know the words what

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Speaker 1: they mean when I hear them. But that's all I know.

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Speaker 1: All I've needed to know so far, and I've done

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Speaker 1: pretty well for myself. I just thought a bad ship yesterday,

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Speaker 1: definitely can I wanted to say congrats. Actually I saw

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Speaker 1: that that on the front page of the New York Times,

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Speaker 1: and I'm really sorry for a conversation about billionaires was alienating.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we know you are, you know, one of

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Speaker 1: the wealthier people in in the world. But you know,

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Speaker 1: my secret is I give it away. Every day. I

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Speaker 1: give away everything. And you know the thing is the

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Speaker 1: world loves that and they just give it right back

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Speaker 1: to be every single back. Yeah. Well, you in fact

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Speaker 1: give it away in exchange for goods, Yes, so you actually, yeah, goods,

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Speaker 1: and so in fact, when you say you give it away,

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Speaker 1: you're just kind of purchasing various things. I'm investing the

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Speaker 1: money into services and goods that will benefit me in

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Speaker 1: the short, middle, and long terms. Yeah, and you do

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Speaker 1: that through your philanthropic foundation. Yes, my foundation, which is

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Speaker 1: called the foundation. And that doesn't sound sinister, it sounds

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Speaker 1: actually very it sounds really good. Yeah, it's just you know,

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Speaker 1: it's transparent. It's just what is this It's the foundation?

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Speaker 1: What kind of foundation? It's the foundation? What do I

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Speaker 1: what do you want from the foundation? In here? Is?

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Speaker 1: Come on? Just like yeah, and the people who have

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Speaker 1: disappeared because they have dared to ask questions about the foundation,

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Speaker 1: I don't care. One of the weird coincidences. I think

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Speaker 1: it's like when people are like like investigating and looking

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Speaker 1: into that, I'm like, mind your own business. Like it's

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Speaker 1: like like they disappeared because they were they wanted to. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well they were, they were. I think they got what

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Speaker 1: they wanted, and then they were so embarrassed that they

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Speaker 1: that they were asking questions. It's like that they said,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna want to retire. Like the

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Speaker 1: foundation wouldn't do anything nefarious, Like it's a foundation, right,

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Speaker 1: it's in the name. Yeah, And like what's like a

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Speaker 1: big cloudy building on a hill going to do that's bad?

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Speaker 1: Like just get over. It's the foundation. It's right. It's like, yes,

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Speaker 1: it is floating above the ground in a way that

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Speaker 1: seems um supernatural. Sure, and but it's like whatever, it's architecture. Yeah,

463
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,919
Speaker 1: like learning to appreciate art, it's actually building. It's literally

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Speaker 1: anti intellectual to investigate the disappearances, the disappearances of the

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Speaker 1: people that have question power in any way. Yeah, like

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Speaker 1: any statement on that. By the way, I just want

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Speaker 1: to clarify that these rumors about disappearances and disappearing, Um, Look,

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Speaker 1: the last time I saw something disappear was when I

469
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Speaker 1: was five years old at the Magic Show and the

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Speaker 1: auditorium of my elementary school and Rabbit disappeared. So that's

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Speaker 1: that's all I know about disappearing. So I don't know

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Speaker 1: these folks today with the disappearing and saying the disappearing

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Speaker 1: it's just uh. I think that, you know, disappearing should

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Speaker 1: stay in magic and nowhere else. That's been my stand

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Speaker 1: for years, and so I'm against disappearing. That's you know,

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Speaker 1: disappearing is the opposite of finding, which is the present term,

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Speaker 1: the present tense term for found, and that does the

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Speaker 1: foundation the found would not disappear. I mean, it's inherently

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Speaker 1: anti foundation. To disappear. Yes, well that's the official statement

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Speaker 1: from the Foundation. Thank you so much for that. I well,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm really glad that, um that we gave

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Speaker 1: you space to kind of make that, to make that statement.

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00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 1: So maybe we should start the podcast, yeah, and get

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Speaker 1: into our first segment. Yeah. So this is the Foundation

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Speaker 1: Presents Radio Lab, where every week we enter view like

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Speaker 1: doing a different voice, as a different character and the

487
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Speaker 1: main the main point is to kind of, uh explore

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Speaker 1: the rich tapestry that is straight culture and also in

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Speaker 1: many more concrete ways not do that at all. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: sort of ignore that and um do whatever we feel. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just kind of We're very motivated by the fact that

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Speaker 1: we actually don't ever want to stick to any topic

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Speaker 1: that we decide on. Yeah, because at its core, the

494
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: whole premise of this podcast is like who cares? Right?

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00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: So what? Who cares? So what? Get over it? Okay, cool, okay, straight,

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Speaker 1: I don't care. So our first segment Drag Foundation and

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Speaker 1: over here. Now I Our first and sometimes only segment

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Speaker 1: is called straight Shooters, and it is a segment in

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Speaker 1: which we give you a series of uh rapid fire

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Speaker 1: questions with two choices to gauge your familiarity with straight culture.

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Speaker 1: But the twist is that that description really makes no sentence.

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Speaker 1: Once we start doing the game, people are often confused

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Speaker 1: and saying, wait, what am I supposed to do? So

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Speaker 1: you you'll just get A or B and you have

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Speaker 1: to very quickly say which one you is your favorite

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Speaker 1: or which one you're more drawn to, And we're just

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Speaker 1: gonna start immediately, and Sam, you're gonna go first. Medical

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Speaker 1: emergency or family emergency, uber or lift T lights are

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Speaker 1: really small candles. The O C or gossip girl, harmonize

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Speaker 1: or Dan harmon's eyes. I'm sorry those uh those are

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Speaker 1: I haven't been familiar with many of the words said,

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Speaker 1: but those two harmonized. I'll harmonize, harmonize, harmonize, harmonize, harmonize. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Nike or Adidas unicycle, bicycle, tricycle or icycleicicle, dread, icicle

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Speaker 1: look icide on a Sunday? Okay, so icicle asicle driving,

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Speaker 1: We're just a Sunday Okay, so icicle just can't stop? Okay,

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Speaker 1: newsboy cap or trucker hat, sugar okay. Anxiety or depression

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Speaker 1: anger Chris Hemsworth, Chris Pratt, Chris Evans, crisp Pine or

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Speaker 1: Christina Applegate Christmas star happendness and cheer. Okay, family plan

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Speaker 1: or pay as you go, pay as I go, go

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Speaker 1: go for Christmas to see my family platting for the

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Speaker 1: Christmas dinner. Yes, so true. Wow, that was the end

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Speaker 1: of straight Shooters. What do you think? The score was

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Speaker 1: one thousand? Okay, two hundred fifty six point two three,

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Speaker 1: one of our both highest and lowest. Yet Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: your score. That's what I was aiming for. Actually, so

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm and I knew that, and that's why I

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Speaker 1: rounded up because you were a little off, but I

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Speaker 1: think that yeah, you were point wat the spirit you showed,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's unlike anything we've ever seen. But that

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Speaker 1: actually did change sort of the entire segment, Like this

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Speaker 1: segment will never be the same now, and this segment

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Speaker 1: is beloved among listeners who have snuck into the vault

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Speaker 1: to listen, and you absolutely shifted the paradigm. This is

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Speaker 1: what we would call a cultural reset. That's a good

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Speaker 1: Dat goes dream it. Okay, not to be like a

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Speaker 1: total George or whatever, but that song is made up

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Speaker 1: right as a good dream it. Yeah, we've made up

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Speaker 1: that song. Oh two minutes ago. I remember that moment. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there was a time before that song, and it feels

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Speaker 1: like eons. Now that's a cool dre Okay, all right,

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Speaker 1: I'm back. I'm back, back baby Baby by new It's

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Speaker 1: single ming. It feels good to be back. How are

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Speaker 1: you square? Got it? Ice? Oh? Wow? Start with the

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Speaker 1: song that brought it all back for me? This business like,

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Speaker 1: how was high school dreaming changed your life? You wrote

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Speaker 1: it when you're in a very dark place. Oh, you know,

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Speaker 1: I lost all my you. The music was changing at

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Speaker 1: that era and made my living singing and suddenly people were,

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Speaker 1: you know, wanting to hear a different kind of singing,

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Speaker 1: and um, you know, so I wasn't selling the records anymore.

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Speaker 1: And one day I was on pod podcast straight Shooters

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Speaker 1: as the name of that segment that changed at all

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Speaker 1: for me, and I got asked something about icicles and

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Speaker 1: I just started singing, that's a cove. That's so crazy,

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Speaker 1: that's such an amazing story. I think the Nation, um

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Speaker 1: will never be the same, but in a good way,

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Speaker 1: because the Nation has notoriously been really bad, but now

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be really good. Yeah. The Nation, the magazine,

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Speaker 1: the leftist magazine, The Nation Yeah. When they published that

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Speaker 1: negative review of Icicle Dreaming, they immediately went bankrupt because

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00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 1: the people wouldn't stand for it. They said, this is

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Speaker 1: our new national anthem, Like what are your types? Like?

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Speaker 1: The people were very disappointed. Yeah, I mean they lost

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Speaker 1: all credibility. When they lost all credibility, it's like, well,

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Speaker 1: what even are your politics? Yeah? If you don't like

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Speaker 1: hicol Dreaming, like how can we trust your opinions? Icicle

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Speaker 1: Dreaming is one of those songs that is both universally

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Speaker 1: beloved but also wildly provocative because essential metaphor is about well,

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Speaker 1: the fact that you're dreaming. It's like, what is reality?

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Speaker 1: And snow? Snow, climate change, climate change, So it's like, okay,

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Speaker 1: you're dreaming about it, so the implications of the climate

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Speaker 1: change is fake. And it's also sort of a post

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Speaker 1: climate change world because you're dreaming of something that you

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Speaker 1: can only dream about because you can't see it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're like plugged into the matrix. We can only dream.

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Speaker 1: Do electric sheep, dream of icicles? Do electric sheep. There's

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Speaker 1: a do Alipa, Alipa, do a leap and do and do.

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Speaker 1: Alipa's cover think is horrible. I think she took what

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Speaker 1: you were doing and sort of sucked the spirit out

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Speaker 1: of it. She really did. What do you have to

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Speaker 1: say about that? I thought dua lipa was a gibberish

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Speaker 1: word and I was about to just start speaking and

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Speaker 1: as a British pop star, this is amazing. You come

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Speaker 1: from such a different cult. You know. It's so crazy

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Speaker 1: because her cover of Icicle Dreaming is like every I

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00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: mean when we were on Fire Island, people were blasting it.

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Speaker 1: It was like and it was like it was like enough. Yeah,

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00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: Like it was like every day peop would be like

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Speaker 1: put on lips cover of Bicycle Dreaming and it was like, okay,

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Speaker 1: it's like honestly though, to be fair, when it came

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Speaker 1: out of the under her party, I was like kind

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Speaker 1: of lifted, like I was like, this is powerful. I

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Speaker 1: mean it's like she made you know, icicle dreaming, she

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Speaker 1: made it into a gay anthem, but in the most

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Speaker 1: obvious way possible. Yeah, and in a way that does

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Speaker 1: really cheap in the original. Yeah. But yeah, I apologize

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Speaker 1: to do a leap if I may. I mean, she

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Speaker 1: should be apologizing to you for taking your song and

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Speaker 1: starting it. Yeah, but you know I should have known

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Speaker 1: about dua Lipa, No, do a lip I'm sorry, do

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Speaker 1: a leap. I'm sorry, do a leap. I apologize to

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Speaker 1: you than getting it's starting. God, it's God. Charts went

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Speaker 1: off the charts. Wow. Wow, And now it's off the charts. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's so. That's so the music industry works. One day

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Speaker 1: you're at the top of the next moment you get

606
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Speaker 1: too high that they actually take you off. Yeah. It

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00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 1: is just so crazy that du a Lipa stole your

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Speaker 1: song from you, and then your apology song to her

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Speaker 1: is charting. Yeah. Yeah, the circle of life, I mean,

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Speaker 1: and that's what Icicle Dreaming is about. That's all I

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Speaker 1: have to say. That's all that needs to be said

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Speaker 1: on it. Yeah. Yeah, Well I don't know, should we

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Speaker 1: introduce our topic or whatever. Yeah, I think this is

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Speaker 1: a great time to kind of like halt any momentum

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Speaker 1: we have. Okay, wait, are you attacking me right now?

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Speaker 1: Am I being bad? I thought we kind of reached

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Speaker 1: the end of place. I think you're absolutely right. I

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Speaker 1: think you're absolutely right. Um. We spent truly minutes thinking

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Speaker 1: about what we wanted our topic to be today, and

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Speaker 1: we landed on something that I think is actually a

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Speaker 1: very I would say it's like a platonic platonic ideal

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Speaker 1: of like what an ideal topic for this pod should be? Say,

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Speaker 1: want to do the honors? Topic is game shows? Game shows? Now,

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Speaker 1: game shows are something I have been aware of for years.

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Speaker 1: There's something that you know, they're blasting on TVs across

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Speaker 1: this great nation and even in other nations. And that's crazy.

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Speaker 1: The international mobilization is so rampant right now. It's been

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Speaker 1: for for um for years. That's crazy, that's really crazy.

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Speaker 1: And and yet who watches these things? I've never heard

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Speaker 1: of anyone watching them? Like m When I say game show,

631
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: what do you think of? I think of the price

632
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: is right, that game show is playing in my house

633
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: growing up for so many years. That is actually a

634
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: true fact, one of the truest things I've said in

635
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: these past minutes. Wait, it is a verifiable fact. Actually, uh,

636
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 1: I don't know how verifiable it is, but it is

637
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: a fact. How would one even go about verifying it?

638
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 1: Is there footage? Um, there is no footage? Unfortunate, So

639
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: we just have to take you at your word. You

640
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: would have to take me at my word, and then

641
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,240
Speaker 1: my thought me and you dept you could you could

642
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: call my family and say is this true? Or I

643
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: would hope that they would and we won't talk about

644
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 1: the various people that have disappeared trying to disprove that

645
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: you grew up watching the Prices, right, because there are

646
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:21,399
Speaker 1: none the foundation. Every time someone speaks up, they disappear. Yeah,

647
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: and sometimes, um, it used to be that the Nation

648
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: would report on those people, but then after after, after

649
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 1: their negative review of Bicycle Dreaming, and some people have

650
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 1: said that the controversy around the review of Icicle Dreaming

651
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 1: was kind of a way to distract from from the

652
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,879
Speaker 1: reporting that they were doing on as it was called,

653
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: the disappearance. But I don't believe that. Yeah, I fully

654
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,919
Speaker 1: believe that you grew up watching the Prices, right. Yeah,

655
00:40:50,920 --> 00:41:00,760
Speaker 1: I'll prove it. Oh it's time for everybody's favorite game, Plinko. Yep. Wow,

656
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 1: well I can't argue with that. Yeah, consider me a believer.

657
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: Consider me a believer. Alright, let's watch that disc go down. Okay, yep,

658
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: that's that's That's exactly how that game was played. You

659
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 1: know what's crazy, I actually don't know how the game

660
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: was played. So if you say, let's watch that disc

661
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,280
Speaker 1: go down, I just have to believe you. It sounds

662
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: leg did the disc go down in that game? I

663
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 1: feel when the disc goes down and the disc goes down,

664
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: the price is right, the prices right. Yeah. Would you

665
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 1: say you are someone who like wanted to be on

666
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: like when you watch that, did you want to be

667
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: a part of it? You know? The thing with television, yes,

668
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:51,439
Speaker 1: is that you bring the going off alarm. We haven't

669
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 1: rang the going off alarm in a while. I'm about

670
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: to go off. The thing about the tell of no

671
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 1: and ever imagine myself playing the game show. It was

672
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: enough for me to simply watch it as a spectator

673
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: at home. That was enough for me, And for others

674
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: perhaps it was not enough. Perhaps they were the ones

675
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: who went to the studio and decided to be on

676
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: the game show. But for me, it was just enough

677
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: to sit down in my living room and watch it

678
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: from time to time. I wanted to be on them.

679
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: Not because I'm not like as a goal, not like,

680
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 1: oh I it's my life stream to be on this,

681
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: But it's like, if I watch it, I'm like, Okay,

682
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 1: well now I want to do it. You know it's

683
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: hard for me to just watch and enjoy. Yeah, I

684
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 1: never wanted to be on game shows, but I don't

685
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: want to be on reality shows like if I would

686
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 1: watch like the Real World when I was young. See

687
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 1: that really torkied me because I was like, well, I

688
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: don't want people to have like no, I'm like having sex.

689
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: Oh yes, sEH I did I did you growing up

690
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 1: want people to know you were having sex as a child,

691
00:42:56,080 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: as a small child, as the TV sex to prices, right,

692
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: did you want people to know? I must confess, um,

693
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 1: icicle dreading, icicle dreading. I have never evaded a question

694
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: in my life. Fact check true. And that was that

695
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: was our sponsor, Snopes, which has recently been acquired by

696
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: the Foundation. Snopes is going to be uh set, Snopes

697
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: is set for a while. Yeah, let's just say that.

698
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 1: But to answer the question that was posed to me

699
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: and uh, and I do want to answer it is that, um,

700
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 1: I did you know? Not? Uh? You know? What was

701
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: the question? Again? I forgot? And you know what that's that?

702
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: You know? Have you guys? It's like, I mean, I

703
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: do know what the question was. It was when you

704
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 1: were a child, did you want people to know you

705
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: were having sex? Yes? Yes, well you know as a child,

706
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 1: I wasn't having sex, you know, simple enough answer. Um.

707
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 1: One time I I auditioned to be on Who Wants

708
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:26,240
Speaker 1: to Be a Millionaires? On that Yeah, because people here like, actually,

709
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: if you like even get to like a certain level,

710
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,720
Speaker 1: they give you two thousand dollars, like in the casting.

711
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 1: So I was like, it's like a way for people

712
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 1: to make money. Oh interesting, um, And so I was like, well,

713
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 1: I need two thousand dollars, I'll do an audition. And

714
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 1: then I got to like the interview portion or whatever

715
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: and didn't get it. Homophobia. I honestly was like like

716
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: trying to be like hamming up a little and bitch.

717
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: And they were like no, no, no, no, no, they

718
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 1: were no. But you know, I don't think they could.

719
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 1: They could smell, you know, sort of my verse of energy,

720
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: and they thought, oh, he's going to come in here

721
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 1: and sort of disrupt Who Wants to be a Millionaire

722
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: from the inside, and we can't have that. He's one

723
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 1: of those protesters that are protesting that people who disappeared.

724
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: Looking into the foundation, they could tell you we're going

725
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: to kind of like take your shirt off and then

726
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: in blood. It would be like, what is the what

727
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 1: is the truth? Find the truth. What is the foundation?

728
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 1: What is the foundation? Learn more here and then there's

729
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: actually a link under Now, I remember when a millionaire

730
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: first debuted. This must have been ninety ninety nine or eight.

731
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: I don't think it was seven. It also could have

732
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: been the year two thousand. It was a phenomenon. It

733
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: was a huge like not to like put you on

734
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,280
Speaker 1: the absolute spot, but part of me it just feels

735
00:45:56,320 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: like you can do a regius? Is that incorrect? Let's see,

736
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: let's see, let's see, let's see regis, regis, regis. Well,

737
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 1: here's what I would do if I had to do

738
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:12,399
Speaker 1: a regius and my life depended on it. Yeah, if

739
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: there if there was a gun in the room and

740
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: it was pointed in your general direction, which let's say

741
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:23,760
Speaker 1: for the sake of narrating this there isn't currently one,

742
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 1: and you had to do it or else the computer

743
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 1: would fire it, because the computer is the one in charge. Nice.

744
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: See that's our computer, Rachel. Okay, Well hello everybody, uh so,

745
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:49,879
Speaker 1: uh hey, everybody watch Who Wants to Be a Millionaire?

746
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 1: Tuesday nights at eight seven Central on lay on a

747
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:58,800
Speaker 1: b C. Put the gun down or don't put the

748
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,399
Speaker 1: gun down. If you catch in drift because there there

749
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:05,240
Speaker 1: isn't Yeah, and Rachel's just her intern. Re just filled

750
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: in How many times I think that was his catchphrase,

751
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:13,919
Speaker 1: just re just filled in here. We just filled it here. Yeah,

752
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,959
Speaker 1: And then people would stay with him. Regions film here.

753
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: Ah yeah, that's right to It's just filled it. Oh.

754
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: People went absolutely wild for that. That catch phrase remembele

755
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: More t shirts to school. Yeah yeah, yeah, I'm just

756
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: re just filled it here. Were he would sell out

757
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 1: stadiums and do uh and do tours, and he would

758
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 1: just go and say, re just filled and everyone just

759
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: kind of go around. It was almost like the Wave,

760
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: but people were saying Regions filled in here. It was

761
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: round and round, you know what. It was the nineties.

762
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,839
Speaker 1: Everything was great. It was a different baggy pants Nirvana

763
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 1: reis film in here. Yeah, I mean he opened for Nirvana.

764
00:47:55,040 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 1: That was so cool. After Kurt Cobain's death, there was

765
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 1: a hologram anyway anyway, who cares? Who cares? Who cares? Well?

766
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: It was was it was a confidence statement. It was

767
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: a statement of yes, world, here, I am me, I'm here,

768
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 1: I count I matter. We just filled it. You know,

769
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 1: do you guys think I just think The title Who

770
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:25,959
Speaker 1: Wants to be a Millionaire was always kind of fun,

771
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: like asking, I know, yeah, it is it reference? Okay,

772
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 1: this is me again being like is it big or

773
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 1: is it real? Is it referencing anything? Or did that

774
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 1: in like or it's just a fun question who wants

775
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 1: to be a Millionaire? Is there something else in the

776
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 1: past that was like, who wants to be? Something else

777
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: that they are referencing? Are there any historians in the

778
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: room that would know? Well, I do know that who

779
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: Wants to be a Millionaire? The US version was based

780
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 1: on a version in the UK them Year's Priya, and

781
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:06,439
Speaker 1: so there was that precedent there. Wow. Dr Thompson, thank

782
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: you so much. Yes, it's great to be here and

783
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: I'm glad I get to talk about game shows here

784
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:18,280
Speaker 1: and I I don't know if there was anything before

785
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 1: the UK version that would have influenced the title of

786
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 1: the show in question, but that's all I have to say.

787
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: Really sorry, Sorry. We were still moved by that historical

788
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: statement that, um, we spilled our water and by we,

789
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:39,399
Speaker 1: I mean George spilled his water and I was trying

790
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: to like that was hag sort of that was busta

791
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 1: for Thompson. From the University of Pennsylvania. Um, we actually

792
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: just dropped in. It's so it's always really great when

793
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 1: we have a drop in, guest. Yeah, that actually is

794
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: our first drop in. Well we had dropped people drop

795
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 1: in all the time, but we turned them away. It

796
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: was the first drop in, guest. Is that what you

797
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 1: just say is that? Yes? I do you write that

798
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: down in your history books? What will? Four plays? Wanted

799
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:11,240
Speaker 1: to create a red leaded date in history? And I

800
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 1: appears I have, appears I have? It really appears you have?

801
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 1: Appears I out of that right, I mean to say,

802
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 1: it appears you have. That's a catchphrase, appears I have.

803
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 1: We just phil be in here and appears I have.

804
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: That's all you died. That's all you need for a

805
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:42,479
Speaker 1: whole evening of entertainment, those two statements, those two statements. Yeah,

806
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:46,720
Speaker 1: the weakest link, the weakest link. What a kind of worms?

807
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,359
Speaker 1: I mean? Do we even want to go there? Wait,

808
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: there's no turning back that? Yeah? That show. Do you

809
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 1: want to know something about that show? Yes? I have

810
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 1: only ever watch the Greek version. Please? Who was the host?

811
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 1: What were they like? It was like I assumed the

812
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 1: American version was like this, Um, as to explain, I

813
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: went to high school in Greece, so I so I

814
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: have a lot of cultural gaps because of that. But

815
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 1: I think that's funny because at a certain period of time,

816
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 1: you would have had no cultural that you would have

817
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: been you would have leveled up on the cultural aspect, right,

818
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: But but now we live in an era where only

819
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 1: America creates culture. Yeah, it's tough, but something a lot

820
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: of people don't think about. Yeah, hey, happy to be

821
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: here though, Yeah, yeah, for sure, I'm so glad I

822
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 1: came back. I mean Greece is just like a cultural

823
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: waste land, no history culture. Well, there are people don't

824
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: even you see that, you know, they really rest on

825
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 1: their laurel. They rest on their laurels. And that's a

826
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: phrase created by American Americans on American culture. Yeah, it's

827
00:51:56,640 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: about who wants to be a millionaire. But the host

828
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,320
Speaker 1: was I would imagine with all these things, it's modeled

829
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 1: after the American version, so it is the was the

830
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 1: American host kind of like rude and mean, Yeah, she

831
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 1: was like a British lady who like exactly, So that's

832
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:14,879
Speaker 1: what it was like. That's what it was like in

833
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: the Greek version. Two um, people were obsessed with that

834
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 1: British lady, but like really for like one year, like

835
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 1: it was like you get one year and everyone was like,

836
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 1: She's going to be the biggest thing for like the

837
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,919
Speaker 1: next century. And then she and then Supernanny comes along.

838
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: It's like, my bits are their own? What? What? What?

839
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry? What was the question? I was sipping on tea?

840
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Speaker 1: What what was that statement? It doesn't know du a lipa.

841
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if he'll know SIPs tea, SIPs tea.

842
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: I've heard kind of like spilling teeth. Yeah, no, SIPs

843
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: t is kind of like, oh, you just said something

844
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: inflammatory and now just yeah, that's what I was doing

845
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: exactly now. Sam's question was that is very SIPs teeth

846
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: that you are excuse me, just sipping some tea? Oh

847
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: my god? Can I can? I? Um? When when I

848
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 1: asked you this question right afterwards, can you just stip

849
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 1: a lot of tea? So I, um, I did want

850
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:35,800
Speaker 1: it before this podcast is over, I wanted to ask.

851
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 1: I can't help but notice a lot of people have

852
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 1: been disappearing from the foundation. Do you have anything you

853
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: want to say about that? Oh? Wow, ah, sorry, just

854
00:53:52,239 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: sipping on some tea. Well, this could not have gone better.

855
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 1: It's one of those verifiable facts. Yeah, I call any

856
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 1: fact checker. You know, we have Snopes today, Snopes is

857
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:20,240
Speaker 1: here Foundation presents Snopes. Um, this is unquestionably the biggest

858
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 1: hit podcast we've ever done. I think after this podcast

859
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to sort of restructure because people are

860
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: gonna want more and more and more. Yeah, this is

861
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: are born this way and then the next one they're

862
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: gonna We're gonna do art pop and we're absolutely gonna

863
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 1: fucking flop because we're gonna be trying to reach this high.

864
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 1: It's very true. And and I and I already know

865
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 1: who do you think our guests will be? For the

866
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 1: art pop era vomit artist vomit Artistles, We're actually going

867
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 1: to do a five part series that's just vomiting, a

868
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 1: very in depth interview with the vomit artist with no bits,

869
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 1: and then she can add it to her web she

870
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 1: can add it to her website. Um, should we do

871
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 1: our final seg I think it's time. Like the final

872
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 1: segment um, which I think you're absolutely going to freak for.

873
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 1: It's our both second and final segment um is college shoutouts.

874
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 1: And you know, sort of in the style of imagine

875
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: you're with your squad at t r L it's two

876
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 1: thousand two and you're shouting out to you know something

877
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 1: you love, a person, place, concept, thing, idea, and just

878
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 1: absolutely go for it. Um we will go first. And

879
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 1: what's crazy is I actually don't have anything at this

880
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: interesting because we started this and I was like, yeah, yeah,

881
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 1: you get it, you get you get it, you get it,

882
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 1: and then it's like, wait a minute, I have no ideas.

883
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 1: I have one? Can you go first? Hey, listeners, just

884
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 1: want to give a really big shout out to megabus.

885
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 1: I have been taking various short trips recently on a

886
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 1: dime and buying bus tickets less than twenty four hours

887
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 1: in advance, and I just think it's so cool. When

888
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,879
Speaker 1: I end for a bus, everything is sticky and there

889
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: is no WiFi, and then I go into the bathroom

890
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 1: and there is hand sanitizer that makes me dirtier. I

891
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 1: think it's so fucking rad. And I can I got

892
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 1: an app Whoa that was beautiful and another ad okay, wait,

893
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 1: I have one that's also transit related. What's up, listeners, Um,

894
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 1: I just want to give a quick shout out to

895
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: the Sandwich Place above Penn Station. Um, I got a

896
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,320
Speaker 1: turkey sandwich from there that I was pretty sure it

897
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 1: was gonna be bad, and then I put off eating

898
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 1: it for like three hours because I was like not

899
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 1: really craving it and like hoping something better people all

900
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 1: in my life. But I did pay thirteen dollars for it,

901
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 1: and I ate the sandwich and it was good. WHOA,

902
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: The turkey sandwich was beyond anything I expected. I couldn't

903
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 1: make the sturky sandwich if I dreamed of it and

904
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:58,240
Speaker 1: or attempted it. In real life, turkey sandwiches are often

905
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 1: plain and boring, and this one was to die for.

906
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 1: HI love this sandwich. Sam. The idea that after our

907
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 1: entire segment about ham, you would go and endorse a

908
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: turkey sandwich in front of our guest regis filledman just

909
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: trying to promote his ham curing company that who that

910
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 1: he only cures for himself out of the studios of

911
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 1: who wants to be a millionaire? I mean, it's frankly

912
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 1: just cruel, re just I wanted to sincerely apologize I

913
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 1: when I mentioned my turkey sandwich, it was not meant

914
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 1: to be offensive to your hand business, and I'm really

915
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: sorry that hurt your feelings. Well, you know, here's the

916
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 1: thing about is that after your leader, you are able

917
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:55,439
Speaker 1: to withstand anything including hearing about Turkey, Turkey, Turkey Thanksgiving. Well,

918
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 1: thank you re just that makes me feel better. And

919
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 1: I think that's also a really good advertise for your ham.

920
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: So I think we succeeded on multiple fronts. And now

921
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 1: I would say for the last two birds one stone,

922
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 1: re just again another one of your iconic catchphrases, two birds,

923
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 1: one stone, we just doesn't again. Now, I think for

924
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 1: our last shout out, I would say any of our

925
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 1: three guests I regious or busted for JFK or JFK.

926
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 1: Any of our four guests can take it on. So

927
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 1: so we leave it up to you, guys. We do

928
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 1: only have time for one shoutout, but it can be

929
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 1: any one of you. Okay, um, well, you know I'm

930
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna do this one as me. Okay, well,

931
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 1: really close to the heart, and uh, I just want

932
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 1: to give a shout out to a great state of Texas.

933
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 1: Texas gave me my start in life. It's where I

934
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 1: was laughing at the truth, but I was born in Texas,

935
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 1: but I grew up there. I did a lot of

936
00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 1: living there before I moved up here. And if there's

937
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 1: one thing about the Texas spirit that remains with me

938
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 1: throughout all these many years I've been on the planet Earth,

939
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 1: it's this. When you wake up in the morning and

940
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 1: you feel like getting out of bed, you just go

941
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 1: ahead and get on out of bed, because the life

942
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 1: is too short to wake up and stay in bed.

943
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 1: You got stand up on your own too, I had.

944
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 1: I'd got to stand up on your high hi, les,

945
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 1: stand up stand up on my anyway. I just wanted

946
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 1: to say thanks for fighting here and uh, I hope

947
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 1: I shouted enough. Whoa wow. Wow. That is actually a

948
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 1: shoutout in a way that I've never seen no in

949
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 1: the many years of doing this pod that like, I

950
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 1: just want to say thank you for doing the podcast. Yeah,

951
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 1: thank you so much. You know, we brought you into

952
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 1: this room and with very little information and just said, hey,

953
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 1: try to have fun out there, and whatever you do,

954
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 1: don't say anything incriminating about the foundation. And you nailed

955
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 1: it both of those things. And you know I would say,

956
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: and we talked about this before. You're the first guest

957
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 1: that we've had on that I hadn't really met before,

958
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 1: I didn't know much about and I feel like after

959
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 1: doing this, I in fact know even less about you

960
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 1: than I did in the beginning. That is not an

961
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:34,919
Speaker 1: uncommon sentiment or feeling. And there are groups that meet

962
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 1: to discuss, yes, that phenomenon, because it is. It is disconcerting.

963
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 1: So there's supporting it there for you. Don't worry, thank you,

964
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 1: Like well, the listeners, if you're confused, there is support.

965
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:50,919
Speaker 1: There is support. We're not going to actually go into

966
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 1: that any further, but there is there. Just this this

967
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 1: episode of sponsored by the idea of support being out there. Yeah,

968
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 1: so we're not going to look all the work. It

969
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 1: is out there. Just no, it's out there. And if

970
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 1: you're not seeking it out, it's like, well, okay, do

971
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 1: like that's fine. Yeah, it's fine, but it's also like

972
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 1: seek it out. It's both fine and not fine. It's fine,

973
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 1: support is out there. Just seek it out. Seek treatment. No,

974
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 1: seek support. You've been listening to seek don't seek treatment,

975
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 1: seek support. One of the worst things you can do

976
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 1: is seek treatment, which is why you have to seek support. Well,

977
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 1: that's our pod. I'd like to give a big shout

978
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 1: out to NBC for producing it, thank you to the Foundation.

979
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 1: Thank you to the Foundation for letting us live another day.

980
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 1: And if we said anything that would pitch you guys,

981
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 1: Oh my god, who is who's coming in? Oh my god,

982
01:01:50,120 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 1: we're being dragged out. Well, I mean the please, the

983
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 1: painted in the poe o, the in the patty at

984
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 1: the end of all