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Speaker 1: Bold reverence, and occasionally random. The Sunday hang with Playing

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Speaker 1: Fuck podcast it starts now.

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Speaker 2: We might have to pose some some of our callers

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Speaker 2: with a random question that Clay and I both have here,

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Speaker 2: and it's an important one. This is for the for

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Speaker 2: the guys out there, okay, this is for the for

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Speaker 2: the men, the men folk who are listening to this one.

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Speaker 3: And only believe.

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Speaker 2: We're only gonna limit this to guys who are under fifty, okay,

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Speaker 2: to make it to make it fair. But I don't

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Speaker 2: know how many of you've seen the recent photos in

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Speaker 2: the Brazilian jiu jitsu tournament that Mark Zuckerberg was involved in.

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Speaker 2: The founder and CEO of or chairman of Facebook. Who

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Speaker 2: is worth I don't know, one hundred billion dollars or something?

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Speaker 2: The guy from the social network, et cetera. The movie

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Speaker 2: Could Mark Zuckerberg kick your ass? This is the question

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Speaker 2: that a lot of us guys are sitting here having

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Speaker 2: to ask ourselves. You know, this is when you see

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Speaker 2: you take a look inside. You know, you gotta gotta

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Speaker 2: be truthful with yourself here. Could could zuck get you in?

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Speaker 3: You know the I don't know the full mount or

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Speaker 2: I don't know the UFC terms, but the jiu jitsu

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Speaker 2: stuff and tap you out of Clay, don't.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to fight Zuckerberg right now. He's been

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Speaker 4: Can we get a height and weight on Zuckerberg so

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Speaker 4: we know what weight class he's in. Can the crew

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Speaker 4: look this up? Because I'm thinking Zuckerberg, this is my guess.

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Speaker 4: I'm guessing Zuckerberg's like a five eight one forty guy.

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Speaker 3: I couldn't be so in sumo. I've definitely got him beat.

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Speaker 3: That's the good news. Yeah, but there's pictures.

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Speaker 4: The reason why this came up is I was scrolling

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Speaker 4: through and OutKick has a story, and the New York

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Speaker 4: Post had this story too. Zuckerberg is like physically dominating

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Speaker 4: a dude in Brazilian jiu jitsu. Now, they, thankfully for

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Speaker 3: I don't know why. I guess they felt better for

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Speaker 3: hold heo. They pixelated his face so you couldn't see

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Speaker 3: who he was he was tapping out.

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Speaker 4: I think I think his face is pixelated here because

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Speaker 4: Zuckerberg is just he's got like his butt, like he's

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Speaker 4: like if you got if Zuckerberg made you tap out

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Speaker 4: in Brazilian jiu jitsu, I think you have to stop

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Speaker 4: doing Brazilian jiu jitsu.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's one thing if like you.

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Speaker 4: Know, if you are you know, spowring in like the Rock,

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Speaker 2: But okay, but hold on a second, we all know,

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Speaker 2: Like you know, I think it's safe to say that

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Speaker 2: either Clay or myself would be able to defeat circa

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Speaker 2: two thousand Jeff Bezos in an arm wrestling match that year.

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Speaker 2: Are you sure you'd be able to beat Jeff Bezos?

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Speaker 2: And are you seeing that dude these days?

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Speaker 3: I mean, POI it up.

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Speaker 4: I would demand a drug test before I got into

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Speaker 4: an arm wrestling contest with Zuckerberg because suddenly, at the

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Speaker 4: age of fifty five or whatever he is, Zuckerberg is

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Speaker 4: super ripped. There's no way he isn't in some way

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Speaker 4: on the juice. So before I got into an arm

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Speaker 4: wrestling fight with Zuckerberg, okay, I was close. Zuckerberg is

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Speaker 4: five to seven, one fifty and look, I know, Brazilian

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Speaker 4: jiu jitsu is a special, unique fighting thing, like they

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Speaker 2: The Brazilian jum war clay, but yeah, idea.

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Speaker 4: Actually the Brazilian jiu jitsu guys buck like you think that,

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Speaker 4: you just pass out. I don't even know how they

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Speaker 2: I've done some wrestling, I've done some judo. You are

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Speaker 4: No, I'm saying if he put me to sleep, Buck,

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Speaker 2: Think you have to change your name at that point.

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Speaker 2: I think you'd have to be the you know, the

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Speaker 4: Up short of, like you know, I don't know somebody

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Speaker 4: on the view putting you to sleep in jiu jitsu

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Speaker 4: one of the girls. Can you think of a worst

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Speaker 3: Could anybody take our opinion seriously?

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Speaker 4: If there was a viral video of Bernie putting us

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Speaker 2: Clay Mark Zuckerberg could could easily offer you a billion

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Speaker 4: Even if he put me to sleep. He put me

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Speaker 4: to sleep. If I have money to make, that's fine.

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Speaker 4: But Bernie just wiping me out. I don't know that

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Speaker 1: Marking Sundays with Clay and Buck.

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Speaker 3: This is a vip bull.

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Speaker 3: I want to admit something to you all. Clay was

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Speaker 2: Actually I wish I knew how to knit, but I

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Speaker 2: But Patricia wrote in, I thought this was really interesting

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Speaker 2: So anyway, I did not learn how to knit, and

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Speaker 3: These are skills that people should have.

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Speaker 1: Sunday Sizzle with Clay and Buck.

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Speaker 2: ABC likes to take itself. Oh my Disney, right, isn't

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 5: And he's one of these guys who you know, he's

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so Joy Bahar, white female multimillionaire Joy Bahar knows

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Speaker 3: Where does it also leave people?

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Speaker 3: But also where does it.

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Speaker 2: Leave people to say that if you that you shouldn't

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Speaker 2: What what is Joy Bear says, Oh, you know, let's

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Speaker 2: What is the philosophy that they replace? People that want

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Speaker 2: Life is not fair, Okay, there's a lot of things

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Speaker 2: Or you can say, cry, whine despair and maybe Joe

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