Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me. Were all about
Speaker 1: that high school drama, girl drama girl, all about them
Speaker 1: high school queens. We'll take you for a ride in
Speaker 1: our comic girl cheering for the drama Queen's Girl Fashion.
Speaker 1: But you're tough, girl, you can sit with us. Girl Drama, Queens, Drama,
Speaker 1: Queen's Drama, Queen's Drama drawn MC, Queen's Drama Queens One
Speaker 1: Tree Hill Baby, That's how I feel I got this episode.
Speaker 1: What drill rocks? Um? What was that? What was the
Speaker 1: even that sports announcer that used to talk like that
Speaker 1: Dick fatale by tell what was his name? Yeah? Sports,
Speaker 1: It's sports baby, sports spool Um. Guys, Welcome to season four,
Speaker 1: Episode nine, Some you give away. There was a lot
Speaker 1: that we love to this episode. This was beautifully done.
Speaker 1: Tell him the tell him the arch Sophia. What happened? Okay, okay?
Speaker 1: Well this This episode originally aired November two, six, and
Speaker 1: case you were curious. As Whitey's last game approaches, the
Speaker 1: residence of Tree Hill feel the pressure of a looming
Speaker 1: state championship, Peyton reveals to Lucas she has feelings for him,
Speaker 1: and Haley learns the sex of her baby, Nathan and
Speaker 1: Lucas clash over personal and team goals, and and Karen
Speaker 1: shows deb tough love while Dan tries to strike a
Speaker 1: bargain with Dante Oho. This one was really good. This
Speaker 1: might be my favorite episode so far, unless I'm forgetting
Speaker 1: about another one that I loved. But I loved this.
Speaker 1: It was so sharp, everything was right on and I
Speaker 1: and I said it when we were hanging out watching
Speaker 1: this episode is just as good as any of those
Speaker 1: Gray's Anatomy episodes. That one Emmy's, It's just as good
Speaker 1: as any of those great high profile UM Network TV shows.
Speaker 1: I just thought it was so so on point. You
Speaker 1: know what it is. It's anything that is geared towards
Speaker 1: teenage girls is totally devalued. Like it's like, oh it's
Speaker 1: for it's for teenage girls. Oh that makes it bubble gum,
Speaker 1: that makes it soft. That's not that's not quality. And
Speaker 1: yeah it is. This is a great episode of television.
Speaker 1: It is my favorite episode. Anytime, like fans ask us
Speaker 1: at a convention, would you say this one? This one,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start to say this one. Yeah you where's
Speaker 1: our emmy? This is great? Is that the title? It
Speaker 1: was it was sad. It was funny, said funny said,
Speaker 1: it's perfect combo. You know what I liked too, There
Speaker 1: was a really cool kind of bookend. You really see
Speaker 1: how far all these characters have come, and they're they're
Speaker 1: so rooted in what is currently happening in their worlds.
Speaker 1: Everyone's getting a little more vulnerable. It feels like an
Speaker 1: opening this whole episode for some reason. It's the beginning
Speaker 1: of the end. Yes, and it's and it's book ended
Speaker 1: with these references to the beginning. You know, Lucas says
Speaker 1: to Nathan, we're gonna battle, and he references that first
Speaker 1: River Court game. And at the end you actually see
Speaker 1: the flashback of Lucas and Peyton to the River Court game.
Speaker 1: And it's like the whole episode feels like it's carrying
Speaker 1: our whole series thus far inside of it. I Oh,
Speaker 1: I just love it. You love a great way to
Speaker 1: put it. It's all it's like in the bottle, We've
Speaker 1: built the little ship inside the bottle and it says
Speaker 1: Kemfetty snow Globe State championship at the side confetti. You
Speaker 1: know what I really liked. I loved the mislead at
Speaker 1: the beginning, when you find out later that White he's
Speaker 1: playing the tape from the radio announcement of his eighteen
Speaker 1: years ago. That yes, because we felt it the disappointment
Speaker 1: of the entire town, you know, and and to see
Speaker 1: everyone crying that that was kind of the mastery of
Speaker 1: our show, where you would get the mislead and then
Speaker 1: see like, oh my god, everything's okay, and you would
Speaker 1: forget all the trauma that you witnessed earlier, and then
Speaker 1: when it falls into your lap again at the end,
Speaker 1: it's just like, oh, how did I get tricked twice? Yes,
Speaker 1: I was feeling so good for a moment. That was
Speaker 1: largely in uh, due to Greg Braine, who was the
Speaker 1: director of this episode and just did a fabulous job
Speaker 1: visually taking us on that journey. There was nothing that
Speaker 1: felt awkward or clunky to me. The whole thing just
Speaker 1: flowed like a nice little stream of story. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: everyone had so much going on. It's so refreshing when
Speaker 1: every single character has a great storyline. None of it
Speaker 1: was lazy, none of it. In the last episode, we
Speaker 1: knew that there was that really weird turn for Brooke
Speaker 1: to be like, maybe I made a mistake with Lucas,
Speaker 1: just so that Peyton and Lucas could have their moment
Speaker 1: at the end of the episode. Like in this episode,
Speaker 1: everyone's moments makes sense. No one is is doing something
Speaker 1: just to get us over the bridge. Everyone's really on
Speaker 1: a journey and ah, I just I'm like, I'm tickled, guy,
Speaker 1: I'm tickled by this episode. How is this only episode nine?
Speaker 1: Like I legit thought this was going to be the
Speaker 1: season for, you know, finale or feels like a finale.
Speaker 1: It was this episode nine. Yeah, I mean, this isn't
Speaker 1: even a mid season break where I wonder if we
Speaker 1: were taking a break for something, you know, Chris break well,
Speaker 1: because this aired right at the end of November. But
Speaker 1: I'm wondering if maybe on our night, like was there
Speaker 1: some Christmas special happening on the CW or something that
Speaker 1: was going to take us off the air early, so
Speaker 1: they made episode nine feel like a mid season finale.
Speaker 1: You know. Well, I think our season always got cut
Speaker 1: up in two. It was like it would start in
Speaker 1: September or end of August September and then air right
Speaker 1: up until the holidays. But then our show has never
Speaker 1: aired during Christmas and New Year's because everyone was like
Speaker 1: busy and they were like We're not going to waste episodes.
Speaker 1: If no one's gonna watch live, that was the only
Speaker 1: way to watch back then. Yeah, they would always do
Speaker 1: reruns over the over the holiday break. But I guess
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to figure out why this. This feels
Speaker 1: like the you know, second week of December episode and
Speaker 1: then you go off for three weeks. But this is
Speaker 1: the end of November. So I'm just wondering if in
Speaker 1: in oh six, like the network had stuff going on,
Speaker 1: you know, like like when the Olympics are on your show,
Speaker 1: is just not all they're airing, like shot put or whatever. God, okay, wait,
Speaker 1: I have a question from the beginning. So the scene
Speaker 1: where we left off in the previous episode, Peyton says
Speaker 1: I love you, Luke, I love you, and then we
Speaker 1: come back and he's just telling it to Skills. He
Speaker 1: we don't. I was upset I didn't get to see
Speaker 1: that scene. I was hoping for like a flashback we did.
Speaker 1: I did, and he says oh. He says, oh, oh
Speaker 1: really yeah, and it's good too because he plays so awkward.
Speaker 1: Going a note, I'm like, why did I get to
Speaker 1: see that scene? It's because my wife I knocked out
Speaker 1: and I had to try and catch up. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: he we definitely see it because Peyton's like, no, I
Speaker 1: love you like I'm in love with you clarifies it.
Speaker 1: I don't just love you, but I am in love
Speaker 1: with you and I've been holding this back a really
Speaker 1: long time. And he says, oh oh, and I have
Speaker 1: just dealt with this situation in real life because my
Speaker 1: son's best friend at school it is a girl, and
Speaker 1: her mother called me and was like, hey, so my
Speaker 1: daughter just she's having a rough time and she just
Speaker 1: really needed a gust to know like how special he
Speaker 1: is to her, and was like telling him, like, you
Speaker 1: have been the one person who's consistently there for me
Speaker 1: and I really appreciate you so much and like, thank
Speaker 1: you so much. And she poured her heart out to him,
Speaker 1: and my son said cool and like walked away, and
Speaker 1: I was like, no, he legitimately meant it, like he
Speaker 1: meant that was cool and also right in here. Um,
Speaker 1: And I guess this episode must have been in the
Speaker 1: back of my mind because I explained it to her like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's how boys talk. They say one word and they're
Speaker 1: like and they made it. They say what they mean
Speaker 1: and they mean what they say, okay, oh oh, I
Speaker 1: love it. Boys don't know, they don't know. And poor Lucas,
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, like he's just getting pulled in
Speaker 1: every which direction. I remember having a best friend in
Speaker 1: high school and he was like all the girls were
Speaker 1: all over him. He was totally a Lucascott type jock,
Speaker 1: soccer jock, and but also like into post sensitive and
Speaker 1: kind of poetic. He was, you know, he was like
Speaker 1: in youth group and like good guy, and so he
Speaker 1: had girls falling all over him, and uh yeah. I
Speaker 1: remember that feeling of like can everybody just leave me? Like,
Speaker 1: can't I just be a normal teenage boy? And like sports?
Speaker 1: Can I just like play sports? Can you guys stop
Speaker 1: wanting me? Now? Can you stop sharing your feelings? I
Speaker 1: can't deal with your feelings about me. I can't live
Speaker 1: up to your feelings. So I kind of I get it.
Speaker 1: I get by. Luke was like, okay, I mean have
Speaker 1: you had someone say I love you and you're just
Speaker 1: like yeah, And I've said it and had that reaction
Speaker 1: to like, oh yeah, it's a rough both ways for sure.
Speaker 1: You know what I liked. I liked that skills put
Speaker 1: it in perspective for Lucas. When Lucas is going, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know, because he is, he's doing that thing
Speaker 1: and skills is basically like, grow up, dude, you chose this,
Speaker 1: he says, You've chosen to be there for Peyton. Peyton
Speaker 1: has just been in those situations. You keep choosing to
Speaker 1: be there to rescue her. You keep not that. That's
Speaker 1: such a good friend to say. Yeah, I get that
Speaker 1: you're doing the thing where you're acting like this isn't
Speaker 1: a big deal to you. But I'm your best friend
Speaker 1: and I see you, and you're clearly in love with
Speaker 1: this person, So what are you going to do about it? Yeah.
Speaker 1: I loved the frankness of it, and I I just
Speaker 1: I so appreciate the kind of friendships where people go, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let you see what's going on here.
Speaker 1: You're lying for me. The turn with Lucas like it
Speaker 1: happens too fast, like it has been years, like we're friends,
Speaker 1: were friends or friends, and over the course of like
Speaker 1: an afternoon to an evening, he's like, it's you Peyton, Okay, fine,
Speaker 1: Like fine, I pick you for me. That was a
Speaker 1: little like Jarry. But I also like to play Devil's advocate.
Speaker 1: I'm like in my own head remembering times where my
Speaker 1: girlfriends would be like, you should like so and so,
Speaker 1: and I would just be like, okay, I like so.
Speaker 1: I had that once years ago with one of my
Speaker 1: best guy friends. We're homies, like in the in the
Speaker 1: most serious way, and every single person in our lives
Speaker 1: was like, you two are perfect for each other. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, you too, you too, you too, you too?
Speaker 1: And I remember we were like all on a trip
Speaker 1: and we finally both just lost it and we were like,
Speaker 1: what is going on? Like we were like emotional and
Speaker 1: crying and talking about it, and he was like, I
Speaker 1: love you so much, but I do not want to
Speaker 1: be with you. And I was like, well, I don't
Speaker 1: want to be with you either, but going to break yeah,
Speaker 1: And he was like I don't know, it's weird, right,
Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, it's super weird. And like
Speaker 1: literally the next day we sat some of our friends
Speaker 1: down because a group of us was away for somebody's
Speaker 1: birth thing. We were like, guys, we get why you
Speaker 1: want us to date. We don't have it. We just
Speaker 1: don't have it, so stop it. It's creepy and it's
Speaker 1: weird and you're making our friendship weird. And all of
Speaker 1: our friends were like, it just feels like it would
Speaker 1: and we were like stop and everybody was like alright,
Speaker 1: fine and and truly like the anti romantic comedy, the
Speaker 1: anti romantic comedy. We laugh about it to this day.
Speaker 1: Like one of my best friends on Earth, who like
Speaker 1: we're talking about it, stressed us out. We were both like, no,
Speaker 1: we can't even I don't want to kiss. You don't
Speaker 1: want to No, no, no, no, no no, And it's like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: I remember thinking about it laughing actually the weekend of
Speaker 1: my wedding because him and his girlfriend were there and
Speaker 1: we were just like, see, we've always been siblings and
Speaker 1: nobody else got it, but we got it ten years ago. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: is everybody making it weird? Man? I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: So there's all these weird There's so many ways relationships
Speaker 1: can go, and like I do think the influence of friends.
Speaker 1: Some times people see something before you do. You know,
Speaker 1: you got your wall up, you're not ready to be vulnerable,
Speaker 1: and it feels like that, especially when you think about
Speaker 1: it in the context of high school. It's almost like
Speaker 1: because they've screwed up early Peyton and Lucas have both
Speaker 1: been really trying to absolve themselves of everybody's a martyr. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, it's like they're they're trying to absolve themselves
Speaker 1: of the way they betrayed their friend and their and
Speaker 1: their partner respectively. And I think, at least as a viewer,
Speaker 1: it feels like, especially for him, he got so obsessed
Speaker 1: with being like, I'm not that guy. I'm not that guy.
Speaker 1: I'm not that guy, and he needed some people to
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, well you're not that guy anymore, but
Speaker 1: you are in love with her. Yeah, just because you
Speaker 1: had all that, you went through all that, doesn't mean
Speaker 1: you're not still in love with her. Yeah, it's so
Speaker 1: sweet that moment. The kiss is sweet, like it is
Speaker 1: a fast turn, and I do, I do get it. Man,
Speaker 1: Peyton worked for that man girl. I wish they had
Speaker 1: drawn it out, like they could have drawn it out
Speaker 1: a little bit more throughout the you know, when he's playing,
Speaker 1: he could have looked over at you a few times.
Speaker 1: There could have been some kind of maybe he's having
Speaker 1: flashbacks at the two of you guys while he's playing,
Speaker 1: or just some some kind of something to give us
Speaker 1: the indication that he's remembering and feeling all the fields.
Speaker 1: Oh man, it was it was fun. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't think it's a secret that I'm a competitive person.
Speaker 1: And like, storyline wise, it felt good to win because
Speaker 1: pain has been like and like dumped by literally everyone,
Speaker 1: Like Nathan is a great guy, no cool story. Here
Speaker 1: was a dick with me, you know, like Jack and
Speaker 1: he dumped me. Pete Wentz was a weirdo, you know,
Speaker 1: like and then like you know, Paintement dumped like so much.
Speaker 1: Felt like a good win. And for what it's worth,
Speaker 1: Like Chad and I behind the scenes, like would squabble
Speaker 1: early on in our series. I was everyone knows I
Speaker 1: was like mean to chat. I was really rough on
Speaker 1: him and I'd like poke poke the bear and be like,
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do about it? Because I'm an
Speaker 1: antagonistic person. And as we get into season four, we
Speaker 1: had fallen into a rapport that was I think he
Speaker 1: really always wanted to show up for me because he
Speaker 1: knew that I would call him out if he didn't.
Speaker 1: And so are scenes together. Chad's a great scene partner
Speaker 1: for me, you know, like he would cry on my coverage.
Speaker 1: He would show up and like really want to make
Speaker 1: me happy. And so this is the beginning of that
Speaker 1: era for my character. And so where is last week
Speaker 1: when we watched the episode and I was like, yok,
Speaker 1: I watched this week's episode, and there's a feeling of like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get to do some stuff where I actually
Speaker 1: like had fun at work, like we would have fun,
Speaker 1: you know. Like it's so nice to see her smiling,
Speaker 1: and I think especially to find some joy, you know,
Speaker 1: after a series of traumatic episodes for her, and when
Speaker 1: there's still this distance with Peyton and Brooke. You know,
Speaker 1: we talked about this either last week or the week
Speaker 1: before that they've been best friends since like preschool. That's painful.
Speaker 1: And I love that there's there's that energy, like they
Speaker 1: can't give up on each other, even when they're mad,
Speaker 1: even when they say means to each other in the car,
Speaker 1: in the quiet at the hospital, they can't help but
Speaker 1: be there for each other. The sisters, Yeah they are,
Speaker 1: and I think the glimmers of that are so refreshing.
Speaker 1: But knowing that, knowing that it isn't completely repaired, it's
Speaker 1: just so nice to see her winning somewhere. It's nice
Speaker 1: to see her getting some joy. It's the holding hands,
Speaker 1: It's the that moment, like each one of them wants
Speaker 1: the other one to win but knows it's at a
Speaker 1: personal cost. It's like, God, I'm Maddie, I'm so mad.
Speaker 1: I still want you to win, but if you win,
Speaker 1: that means I lose. And they're both like feeling that. Um,
Speaker 1: I know we've got this big fight coming up, and
Speaker 1: I just can't even imagine how we get there after this,
Speaker 1: because this was like I can't either. Well, it's so
Speaker 1: tender and what I really didn't like, and I protested
Speaker 1: about it a lot at the time. I really really
Speaker 1: hate that the writer has kept making Brooke take swipes
Speaker 1: at Peyton about her mom. Yeah, that was dark. It's
Speaker 1: just so ugly. And I do remember. I don't remember
Speaker 1: a ton about how we get into the fight on
Speaker 1: the front lawn, but I do know I remember that
Speaker 1: being the core of it, because when you started crying
Speaker 1: in that dialogue, saying like you made fun of my
Speaker 1: mom's death, Like I started crying, and I remember the
Speaker 1: director being like, you're not supposed to be crying right now,
Speaker 1: and I was like, this is really sad for both
Speaker 1: of us. So I know they're leading up to that,
Speaker 1: and I I don't know. I I personally hate it,
Speaker 1: but I it's a device again, it's yeah, and it's
Speaker 1: and it's a step too far. But what I what
Speaker 1: I will say is this sort of moment of relief,
Speaker 1: you know, for me is when we're sitting in that
Speaker 1: hallway Peyton, you know, Brooke asking the question what did
Speaker 1: he say? Because she's just like, I know this idiot
Speaker 1: screwed it up because my friend is sad. I can't
Speaker 1: help but asking, and Payton tells her, you know, oh,
Speaker 1: and they share when you go the step farther to say,
Speaker 1: you know, he's said it was you, Like I told
Speaker 1: him he doesn't want me, he said it was you.
Speaker 1: I think that I almost felt like I could see
Speaker 1: something like like a weight lift off Brooks shoulders. Because
Speaker 1: her the two people she loves the most have betrayed her.
Speaker 1: So now betrayal is her core wound. And I understand
Speaker 1: that viscerally, like betrayal for me is a nuclear emotion.
Speaker 1: I will show up for just about anything. If you're
Speaker 1: in a bind, if you need to be abiled out
Speaker 1: of jail like whatever it is, I'm there. But if
Speaker 1: you lie to me like, I don't know how to
Speaker 1: get over that, and uh, you know, it's a thing
Speaker 1: I've worked on for close to twenty years, and the
Speaker 1: like route for betrayal is like white hot to me.
Speaker 1: And I felt like, and maybe I was having a
Speaker 1: more personal experience than a character one watching that scene,
Speaker 1: but when you said it, it's like I felt like
Speaker 1: I saw the weightlift off her shoulders a little bit
Speaker 1: because suddenly it's no, you're not hearing me, like it's
Speaker 1: not about me, and then she lets it go. It's
Speaker 1: like once she knows she's not being betrayed anymore, it's
Speaker 1: it's healing. And in the end, when Brook looks at
Speaker 1: Lucas and says, go, it's okay, it's like she's absolved
Speaker 1: or free. Yeah. It's like Peyton just wants to tell
Speaker 1: her the truth no matter what. I'll tell you the
Speaker 1: truth when it's bad. I'll tell you the truth. When
Speaker 1: I think that you'll think it's good. Like Lucas picking you,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you the truth. That should be a good
Speaker 1: thing for you. That's what you wanted, right, you know.
Speaker 1: It's like it's following it up. It's consistency. It's I'm
Speaker 1: going to tell you the truth no matter what, and
Speaker 1: I love that And I think I think what's cool
Speaker 1: about the truth that you tell in that scene is
Speaker 1: that for Brooke. It's not about Lucas picking her for Brooke,
Speaker 1: it's about, Oh, you haven't betrayed me again. This has
Speaker 1: been really hard, but oh the thing I thought was
Speaker 1: happening isn't happening. So you're not lying, and that's where
Speaker 1: the healing is possible. Yeah, she stayed consistent in her
Speaker 1: desire to really see see her friend Peyton, stayed consistent
Speaker 1: in her desire to see her friend close out that
Speaker 1: journey on her own things without Peyton's interference. She just
Speaker 1: was respectful enough to step back and let that happen
Speaker 1: in spite of everything she was feeling, which is the
Speaker 1: mark of such a good friend. And I think you
Speaker 1: guys have both been such good friends to each other
Speaker 1: throughout this series. It's like you're constantly taking turns holding
Speaker 1: the weight. So it was nice to see that all
Speaker 1: resolved finally. Well, I like your anti friend behavior in
Speaker 1: this episode because you give Rachel every scene with you
Speaker 1: two ends with you be like I hate your face
Speaker 1: also the worst. It's so great because like the sweetie
Speaker 1: Pie with Rachel. Yeah, it's like, well, well that's the
Speaker 1: same kind of thing, like once you tried to sleep
Speaker 1: with my husband. I'm sorry, I have no like second
Speaker 1: there's no second wind, hard pass. Yeah, I'll do the
Speaker 1: right thing for the principle of the matter, because that's
Speaker 1: who Haley is, Right, the principle of the matter is
Speaker 1: do the right thing. So you do it. But it's
Speaker 1: not because I like you or I want to or
Speaker 1: I'm feeling particularly generous or forgiving. No, no, no, I
Speaker 1: just want to win. I'm here to win. I'm a
Speaker 1: better person in view forever. Also, though, like this whole,
Speaker 1: like the health part of Haley's pregnancy, you know, like
Speaker 1: the fear in your first pregnancy is a great storyline.
Speaker 1: You know, how did you feel about all that stuff?
Speaker 1: Like did you talked to Moira and Barbara, Like did
Speaker 1: anyone walk you through what happens to your body in pregnancy? No?
Speaker 1: Nobody did, And I well, I don't know that I
Speaker 1: really asked. I mean I think I did some. I
Speaker 1: looked some things up and did some research. But um no,
Speaker 1: I think maybe I was like to I wanted to
Speaker 1: seem like I had it all together. I wanted to
Speaker 1: seem like I knew and I could do it on
Speaker 1: my own, So I think I didn't ask for help
Speaker 1: a lot then. Um, but I didn't do some research
Speaker 1: and read some pregnancy books and just kind of tried
Speaker 1: to gather it. But it's still no comparison to actually
Speaker 1: going through it. So I didn't know what I was.
Speaker 1: I mean, I was like, Okay, I've seen this happen
Speaker 1: a hundred times on TV. I guess if I'm having cramps,
Speaker 1: I'll be on the floor and I would be I
Speaker 1: think maybe they had a medical advisor on the set.
Speaker 1: Now that I'm talking, I feel like I'm having a
Speaker 1: memory resurface where it was someone on set who was
Speaker 1: telling me what I would be, what I would look like,
Speaker 1: how my body would be hunched over, what part of
Speaker 1: my stomach I would be touching. I mean, it's all
Speaker 1: seems really self explanatory, but I don't know. I was
Speaker 1: like twenty I mean, not for Peyton, guys. I'm so
Speaker 1: embarrassed about that scene where you're on the floor in
Speaker 1: the bathroom. So funny. I feel like the way it
Speaker 1: was shot, we didn't actually see. We were just told like, okay,
Speaker 1: camera's gonna be here. We have to fit the camera
Speaker 1: crew into this little bathroom, so Joy is not actually
Speaker 1: going to be here. So here's the time. Probably also
Speaker 1: like off getting my hair makeup done or something like
Speaker 1: they had told me to set because they were like,
Speaker 1: here's the X on the floor. Just just ye think
Speaker 1: at this X on the floor and that's Haley and
Speaker 1: she's in pain, and all the girls were like, oh no,
Speaker 1: and Peyton's like, I see it did like my eyes
Speaker 1: out of my head, like in my mind, Haley's hemorrhagen.
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, there's blood everywhere. It's awful. I was
Speaker 1: in a from movie in that scene. You guys you did,
Speaker 1: you had you had horror movie. Yeah, and the rest
Speaker 1: of us had like so much PTSD from all the
Speaker 1: dome that's happened in the last month that she was
Speaker 1: like more trauma. No, I can't do it. I can't
Speaker 1: do it. But it got us into the hospital, which
Speaker 1: was one of our favorite scenes. It did. That was fun.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you guys killed that. It's one of
Speaker 1: the best means on the internet. Are bitch slot horror,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you so funny. Yeah, and I like that.
Speaker 1: We bickered in the car, you know, like there was
Speaker 1: a divisiveness amongst us, and that experience is I think
Speaker 1: of really easy thing to relate to where it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's bad, look I'm mad at you, but circle the
Speaker 1: wagons girls back to the best of One Tree Hill,
Speaker 1: Like that was all the way back to the beginning.
Speaker 1: All of us piled into a car, and it reminds
Speaker 1: me of season one. It's just so fun, it really is.
Speaker 1: And they gave Bevin great comic relief in this episode, like,
Speaker 1: you know, Rachel's suggesting the role playing, and you going
Speaker 1: after Rachel, and then Brooke and Peyton going after each other,
Speaker 1: and then Bevin with the one liner from the third row.
Speaker 1: It's just so I didn't even know there was a
Speaker 1: third row in the car until she showed up. I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, the car keeps going. And then the
Speaker 1: same vibe with you know, all of us getting mad
Speaker 1: at that intake nurse and and her saying thank you.
Speaker 1: They really had found this hilarious like button niche for her.
Speaker 1: That was really great. I'm Rachel and I have red hair,
Speaker 1: did you guys? I had like a weird feeling watching
Speaker 1: that scene with how mean that nurse was about Haley
Speaker 1: because it about before. But that's exactly what our boss
Speaker 1: used to say about the cheerleaders, like, oh, the cheerleaders
Speaker 1: were ever nice to me. They were too good for me.
Speaker 1: And I was like, we are we doing the same
Speaker 1: thing we did in the last episode, even the doctor
Speaker 1: who was like go go wait in the lobby and
Speaker 1: cheer for cheer for something on the Man, but you
Speaker 1: got a comment on it, the counselor who says the
Speaker 1: rude thing to Rachel about being a pretty girl who
Speaker 1: can flirt away through life. And then these adults, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, saying that they never liked cheerleaders, and I
Speaker 1: don't know, it all just felt felt Yeah, it felt
Speaker 1: really pointed, even even the I'm so sick of this
Speaker 1: comment about chicken legs because and it started because I
Speaker 1: don't I mean, I don't know specifically the reason, but
Speaker 1: I do know that some time around here, Hillary had
Speaker 1: gained the reputation as having the best legs in the business,
Speaker 1: which she does. You know, if you have not taken
Speaker 1: a look at Hillary Burton's legs, you really should because
Speaker 1: really incredible. Yeah, and um they were. It was it
Speaker 1: was like so we would always talk about it was
Speaker 1: it was like freely in our convert station all the time.
Speaker 1: If you were around, you look amazing, best leg in
Speaker 1: the business. And I think it was irritating to our
Speaker 1: boss and then started like putting in a little dig
Speaker 1: because he just couldn't manage to let us have anything positive.
Speaker 1: He found out that my dad called me chicken. That
Speaker 1: was my nickname growing up, Like that's what my dad
Speaker 1: called me, and it had nothing to do with my legs.
Speaker 1: But our boss had to make it a dig. And
Speaker 1: so this thing, this thing that was sweet for me,
Speaker 1: got turned into something gross. The same thing with clean teen's.
Speaker 1: This thing that was like a sweet memory with me
Speaker 1: and my friends got turned into something gross. And so
Speaker 1: this idea that I had had that I was working
Speaker 1: on something collaborative where we would all share our experiences
Speaker 1: the way people do in a writer's room. I was
Speaker 1: a little dummy that thought like, oh, I'm getting to
Speaker 1: be a part of the writer's room by sharing personal experiences.
Speaker 1: But they just kept getting manipulated over and over again.
Speaker 1: And so now I don't do that. Now I'm just
Speaker 1: do your job. You make some sure, Well, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: keep my things. I think that's a really interesting thing
Speaker 1: in general for us because we didn't have mentors, We
Speaker 1: didn't have anybody watching our back. You. We never had
Speaker 1: someone say, maybe don't give the writers all your stories.
Speaker 1: We never had someone say, oh, if someone asks you
Speaker 1: a question in an interview that makes you uncomfortable, you
Speaker 1: can say, next question. No one ever did that for us.
Speaker 1: So we we would always show up and be on
Speaker 1: the spot and and give and give and answer and
Speaker 1: try to be professional and to your point, Joy, try
Speaker 1: to really know and do the research. And and we
Speaker 1: didn't have anybody helping us create boundaries because they wanted
Speaker 1: us to be without Why would why would we give
Speaker 1: us the tools to Yeah, And like I didn't, I
Speaker 1: didn't learn that until so many years after our show.
Speaker 1: And when you think about the first ten years of
Speaker 1: your career being in an environment where you're sort of
Speaker 1: constantly pulled from bye, who are supposed to teach you
Speaker 1: to be protective? Oh god, I don't all literally. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's true. It's it's very It just it's uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: And I guess there's a version of it now, you know.
Speaker 1: I love the comedy of us in the hallway in
Speaker 1: our cheer uniforms and I love the scene between you
Speaker 1: and I, But there's just like that as an adult,
Speaker 1: I see in these scenes that I didn't I didn't
Speaker 1: see then, and it I don't know, because when you're
Speaker 1: a kid, you're sharing your stories because it feels like family.
Speaker 1: You're all sitting around like summer camp. Yeah, everybody's just
Speaker 1: sharing and it feels like it feels like comfort and
Speaker 1: they're sharing stories back with you. And yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: that's how it works. They manipulate, I say they. I'm
Speaker 1: having the people who turned things around and manipulated. They
Speaker 1: do that by getting you really comfortable, yeah, and then
Speaker 1: using everything against you. Yeah. I mean that's how any
Speaker 1: cult leader, meglomaniac works. Well the Master you say, we
Speaker 1: we definitely, you know, used our status with the fan
Speaker 1: base to get a ton of fans into that stadium,
Speaker 1: Like this was an opportunity. We're Rather than gather outside
Speaker 1: of Karen's Cafe and not be a part of the scene,
Speaker 1: we just threw the doors open and we were like, literally,
Speaker 1: anybody that wants to come in here meet us and Raleigh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and like, do you guys remember that field trip? Hey not,
Speaker 1: probably because it was Halloween weekends. That was the weekend
Speaker 1: right before Oh my god, I do. And I remember,
Speaker 1: you know, we had a thousand extras in that giant stadium,
Speaker 1: and even that looked like almost no people. So we'd
Speaker 1: have to move the extras from one side of the
Speaker 1: stadium to the other side, so everybody had to have
Speaker 1: two changes of clothes. And then we had dummies that
Speaker 1: were like on the edges, the inflatable people on the
Speaker 1: edges of frame that they that they kind of left
Speaker 1: in you know, soft focus and all. It was amazing.
Speaker 1: All those people really showed up to help, and they
Speaker 1: brought so much energy, like the cheering and yelling and
Speaker 1: the pom poms and the signs and and I just
Speaker 1: couldn't stop laugh when we were watching the episode, because
Speaker 1: I was like, how did we afford to pay a
Speaker 1: thousand extras? And chilies chili sweet Kelsey singing the baby
Speaker 1: back rib song. I was like, that's that's how we
Speaker 1: afforded a thousand extras. Got to make the cute girl
Speaker 1: do it. I love that I forgot this was Raleigh.
Speaker 1: I remember that I didn't. I don't think I stayed
Speaker 1: with you guys. I feel like I stayed in a
Speaker 1: in an airbnb or something. We were in like a
Speaker 1: Hyatt or something like that, and there was a there
Speaker 1: was definitely a hotel bar, and usually at chain hotel bars,
Speaker 1: it's all businessmen. And so if you're just like the
Speaker 1: traveling salesman or the traveling executive that normally hang bound
Speaker 1: the bar, and then the entirety of tree Hill High
Speaker 1: School descends on your Highatt Regions key bar with like
Speaker 1: one of our p a s Alex Ostapey had lost
Speaker 1: about that day and had to carry around an inflatable
Speaker 1: dummy the entire evening and so yes, just I remember
Speaker 1: like all the businessmen at the bar wanting to kiss
Speaker 1: our Pa Lasseter like they were all super but it
Speaker 1: was it was like the carnival had come to town.
Speaker 1: We just made a scene. Yeah, well we can bring
Speaker 1: an inflatable dummy out on the town just so you
Speaker 1: can have next time. I want mediocre, bad mediocre cocktails
Speaker 1: and so far with a blow up mannequin, it'll be perfect. Honestly,
Speaker 1: you know who I bet would come out with us,
Speaker 1: Rick Fox, if we were like, dude, Rick Fox, we
Speaker 1: have this idea, and he'd be like, y'all are funny.
Speaker 1: I'm down. I really think he would Paul would come,
Speaker 1: we could we could like gather the troops. Can we
Speaker 1: talk about the fact that, for the first time in
Speaker 1: four years on our show, Paul Johansson is acting opposite
Speaker 1: an actor who is taller than him. He has always
Speaker 1: been the biggest person in the room, and Dan has
Speaker 1: this stature and this imposing energy because Paul is so
Speaker 1: physically big. And then at the state championship, so Dante
Speaker 1: and Beart come up to Dan and he looks like
Speaker 1: a normal sized dude next, and it's like you can
Speaker 1: really see it change the energy in the scene for Paul. Yep,
Speaker 1: I've seen that in real life too. It's it's interesting
Speaker 1: when Paul's around somebody who's taller than him. It's it's
Speaker 1: very unusual because it's so uncommon. Yeah, I think it's
Speaker 1: just it's he just gets a little uncomfortable. I think
Speaker 1: he doesn't quite know what to do with himselves. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, I thought I really started to think about
Speaker 1: it watching because everybody's taller than us for the most part,
Speaker 1: you know, I think about the women, you know, just
Speaker 1: the number of times we'd have to do scenes with
Speaker 1: the boys and stand on apple boxes so that the
Speaker 1: camera could keep us all in frame and the tighter shots.
Speaker 1: And I really wonder what it would be like to
Speaker 1: walk around for your whole life being so big and
Speaker 1: then suddenly to encounter someone bigger than you. It must
Speaker 1: really be shocking. Like you know, when like a big
Speaker 1: dog kind of freaks out when it sees a kid.
Speaker 1: It's just like what is that? Like they're you know,
Speaker 1: they're just like what is the small thing? I don't
Speaker 1: understand exactly, Like he must just be like, what is
Speaker 1: this us? Who's bigger than me? In this world? How
Speaker 1: am I supposed to feel about this? Yeah, it's and
Speaker 1: it's something I literally cannot imagine. That's true. Yeah, hurts him.
Speaker 1: It puts him in this really different space. We all
Speaker 1: made a comment when Dan is leaving the game at
Speaker 1: halftime because it looks like they're gonna lose and he
Speaker 1: can't stand to watch it, and he whips that car
Speaker 1: around and comes back because he wants to be there
Speaker 1: for the good but also the fallout he knows is
Speaker 1: going to happen at some point. That was a great scene, Like,
Speaker 1: I loved that for Paul. Yeah, you know, this is
Speaker 1: the first time we've been seeing Dan take a turn
Speaker 1: for the good and hold onto it for us. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know what that means necessarily, because I'm still
Speaker 1: not sure quite where it's all going, but it definitely
Speaker 1: is the longest he's held on to the good side,
Speaker 1: the remorse side. Yeah. Yeah, he feels he does feel
Speaker 1: like a new person. And I'm really enjoying watching Paul
Speaker 1: play this version of Dan. Yes, and it is a relief.
Speaker 1: And and I realized how much of a relief it
Speaker 1: was in that scene at the end when you know,
Speaker 1: Dan says to Karen go home and I'll spend time.
Speaker 1: I'll lock up and you know, clean up with our son,
Speaker 1: and and Dan and Lucas are having that moment and
Speaker 1: it's so nice. I was almost scared to admit how
Speaker 1: nice it felt. And then when Lucas brings up Keith,
Speaker 1: you go there it is and I thought it was
Speaker 1: really well played. Yeah, that was jarring for me because
Speaker 1: I'm just so conditioned to think, like Dan's telling Karen
Speaker 1: to go home because he's going to hire action with
Speaker 1: somebody that's threatening. And there wasn't an angle, it was
Speaker 1: just to keep him there in protection of the kids. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was really unsettling and guys. Like the idea that
Speaker 1: Nathan finds out he's going to have a son in
Speaker 1: the same episode that like Paul is connecting with his
Speaker 1: other son. It's like, when we get the information that
Speaker 1: we've got this responsibility, how does it change our decision
Speaker 1: making processes? Like I loved the scene where you told
Speaker 1: him it's a boy. I loved that too. It changed
Speaker 1: everything because it was no longer just yeah, I'm going
Speaker 1: to have a baby. It's this you know thing, and
Speaker 1: I'm so overwhelmed in the pressure and I've just got
Speaker 1: to do this for the money. It's like it personalized
Speaker 1: for him, this is your future. What kind of message
Speaker 1: do you want to send to your son who's probably
Speaker 1: going to play basketball one day? You know, especially because
Speaker 1: we heard the old broadcast. It's like, if we're sitting here,
Speaker 1: are hearing the Dan Scott broadcast of the game that
Speaker 1: he let his team lose, and Nathan has to like
Speaker 1: listen to that, and he's heard about it his whole life,
Speaker 1: and it's made Dan a nasty person. The idea that like,
Speaker 1: oh god, am I going to repeat this generational drama.
Speaker 1: I'd rather have my knee broken and white, he says,
Speaker 1: it he says, it will stay with you, and then
Speaker 1: it goes to Dan and and all of the energy
Speaker 1: of that old broadcast. It's such a good device, that
Speaker 1: announcer being our narrator in this episode. Even even when
Speaker 1: we are driving back from the hospital and the announcer
Speaker 1: in Dan Scott's game is talking about the Ravens coming
Speaker 1: apart of the seams. It's tragic. They've been through all
Speaker 1: these things together, thick and thin. And look at them now,
Speaker 1: you know, tearing at each other and that's about us
Speaker 1: and the boys are fighting and you see it and
Speaker 1: you realize how tenuous these relationships are. And and it's
Speaker 1: really special in that scene with Haley and Nathan to
Speaker 1: see it all hit him and to see him realize
Speaker 1: he can either be a version of his father or
Speaker 1: he can be who he wants to be. He can
Speaker 1: set the example he wants to set. Those are the
Speaker 1: moments of life. There's the moments in life when you
Speaker 1: get faced with a decision that will impact the rest
Speaker 1: of your future in some major way. And it's like,
Speaker 1: really hard, how difficult that must have been for him,
Speaker 1: But I love that it was also so easy, like no,
Speaker 1: I'm just going to do the right thing, that's the
Speaker 1: right thing to do. I loved the River Court Boys scheming.
Speaker 1: I loved just like we're going to free him out.
Speaker 1: It was so like, um, I don't know, you're right, Sophia.
Speaker 1: It brings us back to the pilot. The whole series
Speaker 1: to this point is in this bottle and that rivalry.
Speaker 1: Although you know, like has been kind of fixed, it's
Speaker 1: always going to be there a little bit. It's always
Speaker 1: going to be a rich kid forever. We're not going
Speaker 1: to let that kid win. I love what white he
Speaker 1: said in the locker room. He said, the rest of
Speaker 1: your life is a long time. M hmm. If you lose,
Speaker 1: you lose, but don't lose this way. Yes, so great.
Speaker 1: It's beautiful because and then he references it even on
Speaker 1: the court, he says, it's a moral victory. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: the way you've played as a team in the second half,
Speaker 1: and then you know, you get you get the competitive
Speaker 1: nature's enough for you get out. Just great, because that's
Speaker 1: that's real. But I love the lessons in it, and
Speaker 1: I love this for Whitey because it is the beginning
Speaker 1: of the end. We're not We're not going to watch
Speaker 1: him coach another high school basketball team or game. That's it.
Speaker 1: You know, he stays in our lives as the show
Speaker 1: goes on, but not in the same way. And so
Speaker 1: it felt like a really honoring send off the fact
Speaker 1: that he got that Lifetime Achievement award at the episode before,
Speaker 1: at the banquet, and now letting him have this final
Speaker 1: win to set him off into the next phase of
Speaker 1: his life. I'm so glad that they took the time
Speaker 1: to do that and to honor the elderly community is
Speaker 1: so disregarded and so um ignored, especially in a TV
Speaker 1: show about teenagers. I thought it's such a great example.
Speaker 1: I loved that. Yeah, there's a there's an element to
Speaker 1: it that kind of stung, because, like you know, when
Speaker 1: we do conventions and people will talk about like the
Speaker 1: post convention blues or like any kind of like post
Speaker 1: event blues, like when you wrap a movie or you
Speaker 1: finish a good book or whatever the morning after prom
Speaker 1: it because you spend so much time looking forward to it.
Speaker 1: And then it's why so many people like cry after
Speaker 1: their wedding. They're just like, wait, I've been working at
Speaker 1: this for like a year. Yeah, I just have to
Speaker 1: be with you. And that white he's sitting all by
Speaker 1: himself really affected me because it was like, yeah, everyone's
Speaker 1: off celebrating and he's beginning that process of just dissecting
Speaker 1: it from his life. It's like, this is the first
Speaker 1: hour that it's not my identity, and tomorrow will be
Speaker 1: the first full day that it's not my identity, and
Speaker 1: the day after that, you know, like you're cutting a
Speaker 1: limb off. It's so much that makes me want to cry.
Speaker 1: Hilary's such a beautiful way of putting that. That's like
Speaker 1: how I felt. You know. It's, yeah, he's losing a
Speaker 1: vital part of himself. And I mean we see Whitey
Speaker 1: a little bit in the future, but not really. No,
Speaker 1: it's not the same. Yeah, it's not enough, that's for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because we were class of two thousands, so many of
Speaker 1: my teachers retired right after we graduated, like they'd opened
Speaker 1: up my school in the late seventies, and so they're
Speaker 1: like two thousand sounds like an even number, Like we're out,
Speaker 1: and I remember just that kind of like morning of like,
Speaker 1: but then how am I going to find you? Like
Speaker 1: if we don't have this thing, this building or this
Speaker 1: you know, place to go where I know you've always
Speaker 1: been there. I've always been able to go up to
Speaker 1: your classroom like what are you talking about? Um it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just really affected me. I'm still
Speaker 1: friends with all my teachers. Guys. I'm such a dork
Speaker 1: for teachers, Like yeah, and I hate it when they
Speaker 1: stopped teaching. I know. It's like I think about the
Speaker 1: teachers that are still in my life who made such
Speaker 1: an impact and yeah, like transformational human beings. And I
Speaker 1: don't know it, it's interesting to think about the you know,
Speaker 1: the nostalgia of that, the importance of place, And then
Speaker 1: isn't it weird like in this moment to think, like
Speaker 1: when you zoom out and you think about the fact
Speaker 1: that so many teachers are being told that they can't
Speaker 1: mentor their kids, that they can't talk to their kids
Speaker 1: about their families, that they can't even talk to kids
Speaker 1: about our actual history anymore. Yeah, I mean they have
Speaker 1: to follow a core curriculum. Now can you imagine? Why
Speaker 1: are you trying to full follow up core coriculum? That's
Speaker 1: what I love about him, But like, how do you
Speaker 1: help foster the the longevity of the teachers like Whitey,
Speaker 1: you know, how do you how do you help there
Speaker 1: between those kinds of teachers. See, I don't know, I
Speaker 1: had so many many. Yeah, me too. I mean my
Speaker 1: teachers were teachers, those the kinds of teachers who will
Speaker 1: like actually know about what's going on in all their
Speaker 1: students lives and really sit and talk with them about things.
Speaker 1: And I don't know, I don't know that there's a
Speaker 1: lot of those. My school was, like I think because
Speaker 1: all the teachers had already been together for thirty years.
Speaker 1: They knew our parents, they knew our older siblings, they
Speaker 1: knew our cousins, they knew our enemies, they knew our
Speaker 1: ex boyfriends, like they literally knew every single thing about us.
Speaker 1: You know, that is my my kids school. My daughter's
Speaker 1: school does have there. It's a tight knit group. And
Speaker 1: I do love those teachers and I love that they
Speaker 1: there's so much emphasis on personal responsibility and you know,
Speaker 1: just being good to each other and being kind Like, yes,
Speaker 1: they have a curriculum they need to follow, Yes there
Speaker 1: are some things on the checklist that need to be taught,
Speaker 1: But to be nurtured in a school is I think
Speaker 1: unusual these days. So it's it's always nice to see that.
Speaker 1: And we love our teachers. We love you guys, help
Speaker 1: your teacher, and you're listening to our show. We love you,
Speaker 1: We love you. So for calculus teachers, just kidding. My
Speaker 1: calculus teacher was so cute. So yeah, what's what yammy?
Speaker 1: What's with the grade? Wammy? I don't know. That was
Speaker 1: so weird, and I mean I could see how in
Speaker 1: Rachel's world she thought she was doing Brooke a big favor.
Speaker 1: But it's like such a waste of time where Brooke
Speaker 1: could be Like Brooke could have gone and gotten tutored.
Speaker 1: Now she can't and she has to cheat. Does the
Speaker 1: count really think that Rachel's failing? Like, I'm so confused
Speaker 1: by that whole bit. Yeah, it's all very It's a
Speaker 1: strange mister act for sure. When Hayley it was going
Speaker 1: over that math question with Rachel with the I was like,
Speaker 1: I started sweating. This is what my Maria brought home
Speaker 1: a question last night. It was like, what's more fifty
Speaker 1: leaders or fifteen gallons? And I was like, well, I
Speaker 1: don't know where's the key. So she gives me the key.
Speaker 1: And the key is not just direct translation from leaders
Speaker 1: to gallons, it's leader to cubic centimeters. And so then
Speaker 1: you have to guess how you have to figure out
Speaker 1: how many cubic centimeters are in a gallon and then
Speaker 1: figure out how many cubic centimeters are in the leader
Speaker 1: and then double like multiply that for the leader to
Speaker 1: get to that. And I just couldn't I my brain.
Speaker 1: I looked at her. I was like, I love you
Speaker 1: so much. I'm so sorry. I wish that I can
Speaker 1: help you with this. I really do not understand what
Speaker 1: this says to me. You're like, I'm going to find
Speaker 1: someone on the internet who can help on Tuesdays at four.
Speaker 1: That's right. I couldn't, dare my life depended on it.
Speaker 1: That's how Haley and I are very different. I love
Speaker 1: so much. But where we landed is bailed the end
Speaker 1: of the rough. Yeah. God, that was so intense. Okay,
Speaker 1: so do we really think that Nathan actually killed Dante? No? No,
Speaker 1: but I think Dan was so desperate to do penance
Speaker 1: for murdering Keith that it was like just pouring out
Speaker 1: of him in some subconscious way, like, oh, good, a
Speaker 1: dead guy that I can take responsibility for so that
Speaker 1: I can actually pay off my debt. I mean, the
Speaker 1: idea that he punched the asphalt has always bothered me
Speaker 1: because like any crime scene tech is gonna be like,
Speaker 1: that's your blood. None of your blood is on his face,
Speaker 1: none of his blood is on your hand, and you've
Speaker 1: got chunks of black top in your knuckles. Like why
Speaker 1: he was dead already? What difference doesn't make? He should
Speaker 1: have just punched him two times and been done with
Speaker 1: it and been like I did this seventeen times. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but god it's dark all So who was the stunt
Speaker 1: woman who took that hip? That was? That was? That
Speaker 1: was horrific? Yeah, I don't remember. Um, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I did not like that. I wish you did. I
Speaker 1: wish I remembered her name. And the rolling over the
Speaker 1: car and the rolling on the ground. It was a
Speaker 1: lot that was very scary. Did they did they let
Speaker 1: you know that, like you were going to be okay?
Speaker 1: Or did you get that script and you were just like,
Speaker 1: am I dead? Like because they did that to a
Speaker 1: lot of people on our show, like sneak attack deaths. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't think they did tell me, but I probably
Speaker 1: just assumed because I because of the baby and stuff.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, but also I had a contract. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: unless they were just going to pay me out for
Speaker 1: the next like three years, and you know, half half
Speaker 1: a season. I don't know. I don't think it occurred
Speaker 1: to me that they would film me off at that point.
Speaker 1: I was too integrated into the show. I think earlier
Speaker 1: on season one, season two it was a little iffy.
Speaker 1: But but yeah, no, um. I remember getting crutches for
Speaker 1: this though in the next episode of the episode after
Speaker 1: and I remember really liking being in hospital scenes because
Speaker 1: I just had to lay there and sleep. Half of
Speaker 1: Tree Hill isn't the hospital right now? Yeah, well, Blady
Speaker 1: getting hit, Luke is having a heart attack because he
Speaker 1: didn't take his meds. Es Dante's dead. I mean, it
Speaker 1: is just like, it's a lot And yeah, Karen smuggled
Speaker 1: a good that's a good misdirect because at one point,
Speaker 1: do you guys remember we were watching the episode, I
Speaker 1: was like, why are they still driving? Everyone else is
Speaker 1: at the game, And then I went, it's an hour drive.
Speaker 1: It's not that. Yeah, she's going out to Asheville. But again,
Speaker 1: in that whole gorgeous montage at the end of the
Speaker 1: episode where you watch Dan stepping in as a killer,
Speaker 1: where where Hayley's in the hospital, you know, rolling in
Speaker 1: Lucas is rolling in, Nathan's crying, and that announcer the game,
Speaker 1: all of that, all of that beautiful you know sports
Speaker 1: chat that that was written just to fit. It was
Speaker 1: so well done. It was a device I really liked.
Speaker 1: Sometimes the devices are and this device was. I loved it.
Speaker 1: Um do we have fan questions? We've got some questions, guys. Oh,
Speaker 1: I like this from Vanessa. She asks, if One Tree
Speaker 1: Hill was cast now, as you being the mothers on
Speaker 1: the show, who would you play deb Karen, Victoria, Lydia Ellie.
Speaker 1: That's fun? Uh man, I would love Debor Ellie. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean Victoria is so fun too. Yeah, I would
Speaker 1: play Victoria. I don't have the moxie for Victoria. I'm
Speaker 1: so no. I'm so intimated by Daphne because she's just
Speaker 1: so like, she's so razor sharp and I'm so slouchy
Speaker 1: and like awkward and I make dumb faces. I couldn't.
Speaker 1: I couldn't. You're an actress, but I couldn't do it.
Speaker 1: I'm what I'm saying. I got love. It's like she
Speaker 1: does the thing. I loved it. Yeah, she's got a
Speaker 1: different set of tools. You two can do that though,
Speaker 1: you two can go like Rais or Sharp. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean it's fun. I think that's that's the funnest, the
Speaker 1: funnest thing. It's the most fun thing about acting. I
Speaker 1: find all of all the places that you can't comfortably
Speaker 1: sit in real life. Do that how interesting is? It's
Speaker 1: like I feel like my son sign is Ellie, but
Speaker 1: like my moon sign is Karen. Like okay, yeah, I
Speaker 1: was going to say that the character that feels the
Speaker 1: most obvious for me to play as Victoria, but I
Speaker 1: think I would have had a lot of fun playing Karen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a good question. Valerie wants to know when young
Speaker 1: Keith is haunting Dan, he's always wearing the same outfit.
Speaker 1: That's true, tend to not change clothes. I think you
Speaker 1: sort of. Yeah, if you had to choose one of
Speaker 1: your outfits from the show as a ghost outfit for
Speaker 1: your character, which question? Great question? Um, okay, the last
Speaker 1: episode I was in like a camel tan shirt with
Speaker 1: red lips and that a raid. I think that would
Speaker 1: be my ghost outfit. Super into it. Oh, I love that.
Speaker 1: You know what popped into my head? Which feels so random.
Speaker 1: There was a really cute episode. I think it was
Speaker 1: in I don't know if it was season eight or nine,
Speaker 1: when Brook and Julian are having this like doable date day,
Speaker 1: they like go out on all these little adventures. And
Speaker 1: I had this really cute gray, like square neck striped
Speaker 1: dress with an a line skirt, and I just remember
Speaker 1: there's like a scene where we get on a vespa
Speaker 1: and I just remember feeling like so cute in that dress,
Speaker 1: and so much of what I had to wear on
Speaker 1: the show was uncomfortable. Um, and I loved that dress,
Speaker 1: so that I it's kind of surprising. I guess it
Speaker 1: would be that. Also, I am just going to go
Speaker 1: ahead and caveat that by saying seeing us all in
Speaker 1: our full cheerleading uniforms with the pants under the skirts
Speaker 1: in the hospital is so funny. And I would love
Speaker 1: for the group of us to be like March of
Speaker 1: the Penguins and like be a cheer haunting. I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna say that, right, haunting. So in the last episode, Um,
Speaker 1: we didn't talk about it on the podcast, but our
Speaker 1: wardrobe stylists like quit after that episode, like we had
Speaker 1: worn him out and fine, you know, wasn't the right fit.
Speaker 1: And you're being very polite, being super plate. We didn't
Speaker 1: get along, and um, it was the best thing that
Speaker 1: ever happened to us because we got Carol Cutshaw to
Speaker 1: come in and be our stylist. And what you'll see
Speaker 1: from like this episode out is we look cute. And
Speaker 1: all of season five Carol had me and basically like
Speaker 1: nightgowns with a vest, Like I were a slip in
Speaker 1: a vest every episode and that did become your uniform.
Speaker 1: It still I'm still doing it. Yeah, the slip in
Speaker 1: a vest, that's the vibe outside of cheer hauntaut That's
Speaker 1: a great question, Valerie, thank you well. I loved this episode.
Speaker 1: I love it was perfect, the light spots in the
Speaker 1: dark spots. There's so many memes on the internet from
Speaker 1: this episode. It was so much anticipation, so much stress
Speaker 1: and joy and ups and downs, and uh, I thought
Speaker 1: it had everything and had everything you want from One
Speaker 1: Tree Hill when you tune in from start to finish.
Speaker 1: We want to spin a wheel. What are we most
Speaker 1: likely we're most likely to win the state championship? Am I? Hey?
Speaker 1: What a we got? Oh? Who is most likely to
Speaker 1: have watched One Tree Hill Weekly when it aired? Chad? No,
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Do you think? No? I thought, oh, yeah, Antoine, right,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, because Chad was always like working
Speaker 1: on his act. He was always working on acting, so
Speaker 1: I feel like he would watch it back a lot
Speaker 1: because he would want to like dissect and study and
Speaker 1: fior what was good and what wasn't and how to
Speaker 1: make it improve it for next time. He was also
Speaker 1: just on set so much like I feel like we
Speaker 1: were all tread so much. Who was ever home? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you're right at Antoine because Antoine watches it as
Speaker 1: a fan. Antoine's like I didn't read the script, like crazy, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't know that was happening. Haley got hit back car.
Speaker 1: That was always the best when he would come to
Speaker 1: work and be like, Yo, did you see the episode
Speaker 1: last night? I believe, And we're like, bro, we had
Speaker 1: that script like six weeks ago. You know, I don't
Speaker 1: read so funny which character from the show would be
Speaker 1: a teen drama fanatic? And like, oh or Bevan yeah
Speaker 1: or Bevin? Yeah, g might have been watching watching sports,
Speaker 1: I think so. I think it's deb I think she's
Speaker 1: just like pilled out in her bed room, like I'm
Speaker 1: gonna watch these kids remember the good old days, like
Speaker 1: the darkness of like watching teenagers when you're a full adult,
Speaker 1: just like these are my glory days. Gons Well. The
Speaker 1: next episode of season four, episode ten Songs to Love
Speaker 1: and Die by again with the creepy titles. Can't wait
Speaker 1: to see what happens. I hope nobody dies. I think
Speaker 1: Rick Fox maybe does. But other than that, Dante, Oh
Speaker 1: you guys, I love this. Hey, we did was the guys?
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