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Speaker 1: high school queens. We'll take you for a ride in

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Speaker 1: Tree Hill Baby, That's how I feel I got this episode.

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Speaker 1: What drill rocks? Um? What was that? What was the

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Speaker 1: even that sports announcer that used to talk like that

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Speaker 1: It's sports baby, sports spool Um. Guys, Welcome to season four,

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Speaker 1: Episode nine, Some you give away. There was a lot

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Speaker 1: that we love to this episode. This was beautifully done.

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Speaker 1: Tell him the tell him the arch Sophia. What happened? Okay, okay?

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Speaker 1: Well this This episode originally aired November two, six, and

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Speaker 1: case you were curious. As Whitey's last game approaches, the

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Speaker 1: state championship, Peyton reveals to Lucas she has feelings for him,

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Speaker 1: and Haley learns the sex of her baby, Nathan and

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Speaker 1: shows deb tough love while Dan tries to strike a

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Speaker 1: bargain with Dante Oho. This one was really good. This

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Speaker 1: might be my favorite episode so far, unless I'm forgetting

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Speaker 1: about another one that I loved. But I loved this.

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Speaker 1: It was so sharp, everything was right on and I

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Speaker 1: this episode is just as good as any of those

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Speaker 1: I just thought it was so so on point. You

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Speaker 1: teenage girls is totally devalued. Like it's like, oh it's

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Speaker 1: It is my favorite episode. Anytime, like fans ask us

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Speaker 1: our emmy? This is great? Is that the title? It

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Speaker 1: Everyone's getting a little more vulnerable. It feels like an

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Speaker 1: And it's like the whole episode feels like it's carrying

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Speaker 1: out of my head, like in my mind, Haley's hemorrhagen.

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00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, there's blood everywhere. It's awful. I was

425
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: in a from movie in that scene. You guys you did,

426
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 1: you had you had horror movie. Yeah, and the rest

427
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: of us had like so much PTSD from all the

428
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 1: dome that's happened in the last month that she was

429
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 1: like more trauma. No, I can't do it. I can't

430
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: do it. But it got us into the hospital, which

431
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,400
Speaker 1: was one of our favorite scenes. It did. That was fun.

432
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you guys killed that. It's one of

433
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 1: the best means on the internet. Are bitch slot horror,

434
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you so funny. Yeah, and I like that.

435
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,159
Speaker 1: We bickered in the car, you know, like there was

436
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 1: a divisiveness amongst us, and that experience is I think

437
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 1: of really easy thing to relate to where it's like, oh,

438
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: it's bad, look I'm mad at you, but circle the

439
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 1: wagons girls back to the best of One Tree Hill,

440
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 1: Like that was all the way back to the beginning.

441
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 1: All of us piled into a car, and it reminds

442
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:03,159
Speaker 1: me of season one. It's just so fun, it really is.

443
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 1: And they gave Bevin great comic relief in this episode, like,

444
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 1: you know, Rachel's suggesting the role playing, and you going

445
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 1: after Rachel, and then Brooke and Peyton going after each other,

446
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 1: and then Bevin with the one liner from the third row.

447
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 1: It's just so I didn't even know there was a

448
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 1: third row in the car until she showed up. I

449
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 1: was like, oh, the car keeps going. And then the

450
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: same vibe with you know, all of us getting mad

451
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: at that intake nurse and and her saying thank you.

452
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 1: They really had found this hilarious like button niche for her.

453
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 1: That was really great. I'm Rachel and I have red hair,

454
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: did you guys? I had like a weird feeling watching

455
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 1: that scene with how mean that nurse was about Haley

456
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 1: because it about before. But that's exactly what our boss

457
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: used to say about the cheerleaders, like, oh, the cheerleaders

458
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 1: were ever nice to me. They were too good for me.

459
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 1: And I was like, we are we doing the same

460
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: thing we did in the last episode, even the doctor

461
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: who was like go go wait in the lobby and

462
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: cheer for cheer for something on the Man, but you

463
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 1: got a comment on it, the counselor who says the

464
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: rude thing to Rachel about being a pretty girl who

465
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: can flirt away through life. And then these adults, uh,

466
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 1: you know, saying that they never liked cheerleaders, and I

467
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 1: don't know, it all just felt felt Yeah, it felt

468
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: really pointed, even even the I'm so sick of this

469
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: comment about chicken legs because and it started because I

470
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 1: don't I mean, I don't know specifically the reason, but

471
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 1: I do know that some time around here, Hillary had

472
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,199
Speaker 1: gained the reputation as having the best legs in the business,

473
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,199
Speaker 1: which she does. You know, if you have not taken

474
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: a look at Hillary Burton's legs, you really should because

475
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 1: really incredible. Yeah, and um they were. It was it

476
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 1: was like so we would always talk about it was

477
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: it was like freely in our convert station all the time.

478
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: If you were around, you look amazing, best leg in

479
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: the business. And I think it was irritating to our

480
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 1: boss and then started like putting in a little dig

481
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: because he just couldn't manage to let us have anything positive.

482
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: He found out that my dad called me chicken. That

483
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: was my nickname growing up, Like that's what my dad

484
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 1: called me, and it had nothing to do with my legs.

485
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,919
Speaker 1: But our boss had to make it a dig. And

486
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: so this thing, this thing that was sweet for me,

487
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: got turned into something gross. The same thing with clean teen's.

488
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: This thing that was like a sweet memory with me

489
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: and my friends got turned into something gross. And so

490
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: this idea that I had had that I was working

491
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: on something collaborative where we would all share our experiences

492
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: the way people do in a writer's room. I was

493
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: a little dummy that thought like, oh, I'm getting to

494
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: be a part of the writer's room by sharing personal experiences.

495
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: But they just kept getting manipulated over and over again.

496
00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: And so now I don't do that. Now I'm just

497
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: do your job. You make some sure, Well, I'm gonna

498
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: keep my things. I think that's a really interesting thing

499
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: in general for us because we didn't have mentors, We

500
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: didn't have anybody watching our back. You. We never had

501
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: someone say, maybe don't give the writers all your stories.

502
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: We never had someone say, oh, if someone asks you

503
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: a question in an interview that makes you uncomfortable, you

504
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: can say, next question. No one ever did that for us.

505
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: So we we would always show up and be on

506
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: the spot and and give and give and answer and

507
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: try to be professional and to your point, Joy, try

508
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 1: to really know and do the research. And and we

509
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: didn't have anybody helping us create boundaries because they wanted

510
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: us to be without Why would why would we give

511
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: us the tools to Yeah, And like I didn't, I

512
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: didn't learn that until so many years after our show.

513
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: And when you think about the first ten years of

514
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: your career being in an environment where you're sort of

515
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: constantly pulled from bye, who are supposed to teach you

516
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: to be protective? Oh god, I don't all literally. Yeah,

517
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: it's it's true. It's it's very It just it's uncomfortable.

518
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: And I guess there's a version of it now, you know.

519
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: I love the comedy of us in the hallway in

520
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: our cheer uniforms and I love the scene between you

521
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: and I, But there's just like that as an adult,

522
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: I see in these scenes that I didn't I didn't

523
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: see then, and it I don't know, because when you're

524
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: a kid, you're sharing your stories because it feels like family.

525
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: You're all sitting around like summer camp. Yeah, everybody's just

526
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: sharing and it feels like it feels like comfort and

527
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: they're sharing stories back with you. And yeah, I mean

528
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: that's how it works. They manipulate, I say they. I'm

529
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: having the people who turned things around and manipulated. They

530
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: do that by getting you really comfortable, yeah, and then

531
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: using everything against you. Yeah. I mean that's how any

532
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: cult leader, meglomaniac works. Well the Master you say, we

533
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: we definitely, you know, used our status with the fan

534
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: base to get a ton of fans into that stadium,

535
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: Like this was an opportunity. We're Rather than gather outside

536
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: of Karen's Cafe and not be a part of the scene,

537
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: we just threw the doors open and we were like, literally,

538
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: anybody that wants to come in here meet us and Raleigh. Yeah,

539
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: and like, do you guys remember that field trip? Hey not,

540
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: probably because it was Halloween weekends. That was the weekend

541
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: right before Oh my god, I do. And I remember,

542
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: you know, we had a thousand extras in that giant stadium,

543
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: and even that looked like almost no people. So we'd

544
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: have to move the extras from one side of the

545
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: stadium to the other side, so everybody had to have

546
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: two changes of clothes. And then we had dummies that

547
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: were like on the edges, the inflatable people on the

548
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: edges of frame that they that they kind of left

549
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: in you know, soft focus and all. It was amazing.

550
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: All those people really showed up to help, and they

551
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: brought so much energy, like the cheering and yelling and

552
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: the pom poms and the signs and and I just

553
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: couldn't stop laugh when we were watching the episode, because

554
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: I was like, how did we afford to pay a

555
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: thousand extras? And chilies chili sweet Kelsey singing the baby

556
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: back rib song. I was like, that's that's how we

557
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: afforded a thousand extras. Got to make the cute girl

558
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: do it. I love that I forgot this was Raleigh.

559
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: I remember that I didn't. I don't think I stayed

560
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: with you guys. I feel like I stayed in a

561
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: in an airbnb or something. We were in like a

562
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: Hyatt or something like that, and there was a there

563
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: was definitely a hotel bar, and usually at chain hotel bars,

564
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: it's all businessmen. And so if you're just like the

565
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: traveling salesman or the traveling executive that normally hang bound

566
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: the bar, and then the entirety of tree Hill High

567
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: School descends on your Highatt Regions key bar with like

568
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: one of our p a s Alex Ostapey had lost

569
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: about that day and had to carry around an inflatable

570
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: dummy the entire evening and so yes, just I remember

571
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: like all the businessmen at the bar wanting to kiss

572
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: our Pa Lasseter like they were all super but it

573
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: was it was like the carnival had come to town.

574
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: We just made a scene. Yeah, well we can bring

575
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: an inflatable dummy out on the town just so you

576
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: can have next time. I want mediocre, bad mediocre cocktails

577
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: and so far with a blow up mannequin, it'll be perfect. Honestly,

578
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: you know who I bet would come out with us,

579
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 1: Rick Fox, if we were like, dude, Rick Fox, we

580
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: have this idea, and he'd be like, y'all are funny.

581
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,439
Speaker 1: I'm down. I really think he would Paul would come,

582
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: we could we could like gather the troops. Can we

583
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 1: talk about the fact that, for the first time in

584
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 1: four years on our show, Paul Johansson is acting opposite

585
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,240
Speaker 1: an actor who is taller than him. He has always

586
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: been the biggest person in the room, and Dan has

587
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: this stature and this imposing energy because Paul is so

588
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: physically big. And then at the state championship, so Dante

589
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: and Beart come up to Dan and he looks like

590
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: a normal sized dude next, and it's like you can

591
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: really see it change the energy in the scene for Paul. Yep,

592
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: I've seen that in real life too. It's it's interesting

593
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: when Paul's around somebody who's taller than him. It's it's

594
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: very unusual because it's so uncommon. Yeah, I think it's

595
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: just it's he just gets a little uncomfortable. I think

596
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: he doesn't quite know what to do with himselves. Well,

597
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,479
Speaker 1: you know, I thought I really started to think about

598
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: it watching because everybody's taller than us for the most part,

599
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: you know, I think about the women, you know, just

600
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: the number of times we'd have to do scenes with

601
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: the boys and stand on apple boxes so that the

602
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,240
Speaker 1: camera could keep us all in frame and the tighter shots.

603
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: And I really wonder what it would be like to

604
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: walk around for your whole life being so big and

605
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 1: then suddenly to encounter someone bigger than you. It must

606
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: really be shocking. Like you know, when like a big

607
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: dog kind of freaks out when it sees a kid.

608
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 1: It's just like what is that? Like they're you know,

609
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 1: they're just like what is the small thing? I don't

610
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: understand exactly, Like he must just be like, what is

611
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 1: this us? Who's bigger than me? In this world? How

612
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: am I supposed to feel about this? Yeah, it's and

613
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: it's something I literally cannot imagine. That's true. Yeah, hurts him.

614
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 1: It puts him in this really different space. We all

615
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: made a comment when Dan is leaving the game at

616
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: halftime because it looks like they're gonna lose and he

617
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 1: can't stand to watch it, and he whips that car

618
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: around and comes back because he wants to be there

619
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: for the good but also the fallout he knows is

620
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: going to happen at some point. That was a great scene, Like,

621
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: I loved that for Paul. Yeah, you know, this is

622
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: the first time we've been seeing Dan take a turn

623
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: for the good and hold onto it for us. Yeah.

624
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,399
Speaker 1: I don't know what that means necessarily, because I'm still

625
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: not sure quite where it's all going, but it definitely

626
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: is the longest he's held on to the good side,

627
00:36:54,239 --> 00:37:00,280
Speaker 1: the remorse side. Yeah. Yeah, he feels he does feel

628
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: like a new person. And I'm really enjoying watching Paul

629
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: play this version of Dan. Yes, and it is a relief.

630
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: And and I realized how much of a relief it

631
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: was in that scene at the end when you know,

632
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 1: Dan says to Karen go home and I'll spend time.

633
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: I'll lock up and you know, clean up with our son,

634
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: and and Dan and Lucas are having that moment and

635
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: it's so nice. I was almost scared to admit how

636
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 1: nice it felt. And then when Lucas brings up Keith,

637
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 1: you go there it is and I thought it was

638
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 1: really well played. Yeah, that was jarring for me because

639
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: I'm just so conditioned to think, like Dan's telling Karen

640
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: to go home because he's going to hire action with

641
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 1: somebody that's threatening. And there wasn't an angle, it was

642
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: just to keep him there in protection of the kids. Um. Yeah,

643
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: that was really unsettling and guys. Like the idea that

644
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: Nathan finds out he's going to have a son in

645
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: the same episode that like Paul is connecting with his

646
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: other son. It's like, when we get the information that

647
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: we've got this responsibility, how does it change our decision

648
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:31,879
Speaker 1: making processes? Like I loved the scene where you told

649
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: him it's a boy. I loved that too. It changed

650
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: everything because it was no longer just yeah, I'm going

651
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: to have a baby. It's this you know thing, and

652
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: I'm so overwhelmed in the pressure and I've just got

653
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: to do this for the money. It's like it personalized

654
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 1: for him, this is your future. What kind of message

655
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 1: do you want to send to your son who's probably

656
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 1: going to play basketball one day? You know, especially because

657
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: we heard the old broadcast. It's like, if we're sitting here,

658
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: are hearing the Dan Scott broadcast of the game that

659
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: he let his team lose, and Nathan has to like

660
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: listen to that, and he's heard about it his whole life,

661
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 1: and it's made Dan a nasty person. The idea that like,

662
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: oh god, am I going to repeat this generational drama.

663
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: I'd rather have my knee broken and white, he says,

664
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: it he says, it will stay with you, and then

665
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: it goes to Dan and and all of the energy

666
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: of that old broadcast. It's such a good device, that

667
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: announcer being our narrator in this episode. Even even when

668
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 1: we are driving back from the hospital and the announcer

669
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: in Dan Scott's game is talking about the Ravens coming

670
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 1: apart of the seams. It's tragic. They've been through all

671
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: these things together, thick and thin. And look at them now,

672
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 1: you know, tearing at each other and that's about us

673
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: and the boys are fighting and you see it and

674
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 1: you realize how tenuous these relationships are. And and it's

675
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: really special in that scene with Haley and Nathan to

676
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: see it all hit him and to see him realize

677
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: he can either be a version of his father or

678
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 1: he can be who he wants to be. He can

679
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 1: set the example he wants to set. Those are the

680
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: moments of life. There's the moments in life when you

681
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,919
Speaker 1: get faced with a decision that will impact the rest

682
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: of your future in some major way. And it's like,

683
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: really hard, how difficult that must have been for him,

684
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: But I love that it was also so easy, like no,

685
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: I'm just going to do the right thing, that's the

686
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: right thing to do. I loved the River Court Boys scheming.

687
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: I loved just like we're going to free him out.

688
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 1: It was so like, um, I don't know, you're right, Sophia.

689
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 1: It brings us back to the pilot. The whole series

690
00:40:55,840 --> 00:41:01,240
Speaker 1: to this point is in this bottle and that rivalry.

691
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: Although you know, like has been kind of fixed, it's

692
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: always going to be there a little bit. It's always

693
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: going to be a rich kid forever. We're not going

694
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 1: to let that kid win. I love what white he

695
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 1: said in the locker room. He said, the rest of

696
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 1: your life is a long time. M hmm. If you lose,

697
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: you lose, but don't lose this way. Yes, so great.

698
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: It's beautiful because and then he references it even on

699
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 1: the court, he says, it's a moral victory. Yeah, you know,

700
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: the way you've played as a team in the second half,

701
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: and then you know, you get you get the competitive

702
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 1: nature's enough for you get out. Just great, because that's

703
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: that's real. But I love the lessons in it, and

704
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 1: I love this for Whitey because it is the beginning

705
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,240
Speaker 1: of the end. We're not We're not going to watch

706
00:41:55,320 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 1: him coach another high school basketball team or game. That's it.

707
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: You know, he stays in our lives as the show

708
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: goes on, but not in the same way. And so

709
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: it felt like a really honoring send off the fact

710
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: that he got that Lifetime Achievement award at the episode before,

711
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: at the banquet, and now letting him have this final

712
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: win to set him off into the next phase of

713
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: his life. I'm so glad that they took the time

714
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: to do that and to honor the elderly community is

715
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 1: so disregarded and so um ignored, especially in a TV

716
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: show about teenagers. I thought it's such a great example.

717
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: I loved that. Yeah, there's a there's an element to

718
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 1: it that kind of stung, because, like you know, when

719
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: we do conventions and people will talk about like the

720
00:42:56,239 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: post convention blues or like any kind of like post

721
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: event blues, like when you wrap a movie or you

722
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: finish a good book or whatever the morning after prom

723
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: it because you spend so much time looking forward to it.

724
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 1: And then it's why so many people like cry after

725
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: their wedding. They're just like, wait, I've been working at

726
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: this for like a year. Yeah, I just have to

727
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,399
Speaker 1: be with you. And that white he's sitting all by

728
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 1: himself really affected me because it was like, yeah, everyone's

729
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 1: off celebrating and he's beginning that process of just dissecting

730
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 1: it from his life. It's like, this is the first

731
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: hour that it's not my identity, and tomorrow will be

732
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 1: the first full day that it's not my identity, and

733
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 1: the day after that, you know, like you're cutting a

734
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: limb off. It's so much that makes me want to cry.

735
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: Hilary's such a beautiful way of putting that. That's like

736
00:43:55,160 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: how I felt. You know. It's, yeah, he's losing a

737
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:04,720
Speaker 1: vital part of himself. And I mean we see Whitey

738
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 1: a little bit in the future, but not really. No,

739
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:13,760
Speaker 1: it's not the same. Yeah, it's not enough, that's for sure. Yeah,

740
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: because we were class of two thousands, so many of

741
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: my teachers retired right after we graduated, like they'd opened

742
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: up my school in the late seventies, and so they're

743
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: like two thousand sounds like an even number, Like we're out,

744
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: and I remember just that kind of like morning of like,

745
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 1: but then how am I going to find you? Like

746
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: if we don't have this thing, this building or this

747
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 1: you know, place to go where I know you've always

748
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: been there. I've always been able to go up to

749
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: your classroom like what are you talking about? Um it? Yeah,

750
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,879
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just really affected me. I'm still

751
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,879
Speaker 1: friends with all my teachers. Guys. I'm such a dork

752
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 1: for teachers, Like yeah, and I hate it when they

753
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: stopped teaching. I know. It's like I think about the

754
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: teachers that are still in my life who made such

755
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 1: an impact and yeah, like transformational human beings. And I

756
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 1: don't know it, it's interesting to think about the you know,

757
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: the nostalgia of that, the importance of place, And then

758
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 1: isn't it weird like in this moment to think, like

759
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 1: when you zoom out and you think about the fact

760
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: that so many teachers are being told that they can't

761
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 1: mentor their kids, that they can't talk to their kids

762
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,399
Speaker 1: about their families, that they can't even talk to kids

763
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 1: about our actual history anymore. Yeah, I mean they have

764
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: to follow a core curriculum. Now can you imagine? Why

765
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: are you trying to full follow up core coriculum? That's

766
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 1: what I love about him, But like, how do you

767
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: help foster the the longevity of the teachers like Whitey,

768
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: you know, how do you how do you help there

769
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 1: between those kinds of teachers. See, I don't know, I

770
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 1: had so many many. Yeah, me too. I mean my

771
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:10,399
Speaker 1: teachers were teachers, those the kinds of teachers who will

772
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: like actually know about what's going on in all their

773
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: students lives and really sit and talk with them about things.

774
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: And I don't know, I don't know that there's a

775
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: lot of those. My school was, like I think because

776
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,760
Speaker 1: all the teachers had already been together for thirty years.

777
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: They knew our parents, they knew our older siblings, they

778
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 1: knew our cousins, they knew our enemies, they knew our

779
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: ex boyfriends, like they literally knew every single thing about us.

780
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: You know, that is my my kids school. My daughter's

781
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: school does have there. It's a tight knit group. And

782
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: I do love those teachers and I love that they

783
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: there's so much emphasis on personal responsibility and you know,

784
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: just being good to each other and being kind Like, yes,

785
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: they have a curriculum they need to follow, Yes there

786
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 1: are some things on the checklist that need to be taught,

787
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: But to be nurtured in a school is I think

788
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 1: unusual these days. So it's it's always nice to see that.

789
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 1: And we love our teachers. We love you guys, help

790
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: your teacher, and you're listening to our show. We love you,

791
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 1: We love you. So for calculus teachers, just kidding. My

792
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: calculus teacher was so cute. So yeah, what's what yammy?

793
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 1: What's with the grade? Wammy? I don't know. That was

794
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: so weird, and I mean I could see how in

795
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: Rachel's world she thought she was doing Brooke a big favor.

796
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: But it's like such a waste of time where Brooke

797
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: could be Like Brooke could have gone and gotten tutored.

798
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 1: Now she can't and she has to cheat. Does the

799
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: count really think that Rachel's failing? Like, I'm so confused

800
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: by that whole bit. Yeah, it's all very It's a

801
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: strange mister act for sure. When Hayley it was going

802
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 1: over that math question with Rachel with the I was like,

803
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: I started sweating. This is what my Maria brought home

804
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 1: a question last night. It was like, what's more fifty

805
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: leaders or fifteen gallons? And I was like, well, I

806
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: don't know where's the key. So she gives me the key.

807
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:13,240
Speaker 1: And the key is not just direct translation from leaders

808
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: to gallons, it's leader to cubic centimeters. And so then

809
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 1: you have to guess how you have to figure out

810
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 1: how many cubic centimeters are in a gallon and then

811
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: figure out how many cubic centimeters are in the leader

812
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 1: and then double like multiply that for the leader to

813
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 1: get to that. And I just couldn't I my brain.

814
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,399
Speaker 1: I looked at her. I was like, I love you

815
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: so much. I'm so sorry. I wish that I can

816
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: help you with this. I really do not understand what

817
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: this says to me. You're like, I'm going to find

818
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 1: someone on the internet who can help on Tuesdays at four.

819
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: That's right. I couldn't, dare my life depended on it.

820
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: That's how Haley and I are very different. I love

821
00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 1: so much. But where we landed is bailed the end

822
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 1: of the rough. Yeah. God, that was so intense. Okay,

823
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 1: so do we really think that Nathan actually killed Dante? No? No,

824
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 1: but I think Dan was so desperate to do penance

825
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,919
Speaker 1: for murdering Keith that it was like just pouring out

826
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: of him in some subconscious way, like, oh, good, a

827
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 1: dead guy that I can take responsibility for so that

828
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: I can actually pay off my debt. I mean, the

829
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,879
Speaker 1: idea that he punched the asphalt has always bothered me

830
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 1: because like any crime scene tech is gonna be like,

831
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: that's your blood. None of your blood is on his face,

832
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: none of his blood is on your hand, and you've

833
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,839
Speaker 1: got chunks of black top in your knuckles. Like why

834
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: he was dead already? What difference doesn't make? He should

835
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: have just punched him two times and been done with

836
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 1: it and been like I did this seventeen times. Yeah,

837
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: but god it's dark all So who was the stunt

838
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: woman who took that hip? That was? That was? That

839
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: was horrific? Yeah, I don't remember. Um, oh my god,

840
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: I did not like that. I wish you did. I

841
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 1: wish I remembered her name. And the rolling over the

842
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: car and the rolling on the ground. It was a

843
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 1: lot that was very scary. Did they did they let

844
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: you know that, like you were going to be okay?

845
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: Or did you get that script and you were just like,

846
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: am I dead? Like because they did that to a

847
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: lot of people on our show, like sneak attack deaths. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they did tell me, but I probably

849
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Speaker 1: just assumed because I because of the baby and stuff.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, but also I had a contract. Yeah, I mean,

851
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 1: unless they were just going to pay me out for

852
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Speaker 1: the next like three years, and you know, half half

853
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: a season. I don't know. I don't think it occurred

854
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Speaker 1: to me that they would film me off at that point.

855
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: I was too integrated into the show. I think earlier

856
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: on season one, season two it was a little iffy.

857
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: But but yeah, no, um. I remember getting crutches for

858
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Speaker 1: this though in the next episode of the episode after

859
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:17,760
Speaker 1: and I remember really liking being in hospital scenes because

860
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 1: I just had to lay there and sleep. Half of

861
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: Tree Hill isn't the hospital right now? Yeah, well, Blady

862
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 1: getting hit, Luke is having a heart attack because he

863
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Speaker 1: didn't take his meds. Es Dante's dead. I mean, it

864
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 1: is just like, it's a lot And yeah, Karen smuggled

865
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Speaker 1: a good that's a good misdirect because at one point,

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Speaker 1: do you guys remember we were watching the episode, I

867
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Speaker 1: was like, why are they still driving? Everyone else is

868
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Speaker 1: at the game, And then I went, it's an hour drive.

869
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: It's not that. Yeah, she's going out to Asheville. But again,

870
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Speaker 1: in that whole gorgeous montage at the end of the

871
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Speaker 1: episode where you watch Dan stepping in as a killer,

872
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 1: where where Hayley's in the hospital, you know, rolling in

873
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Speaker 1: Lucas is rolling in, Nathan's crying, and that announcer the game,

874
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 1: all of that, all of that beautiful you know sports

875
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: chat that that was written just to fit. It was

876
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 1: so well done. It was a device I really liked.

877
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 1: Sometimes the devices are and this device was. I loved it.

878
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: Um do we have fan questions? We've got some questions, guys. Oh,

879
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: I like this from Vanessa. She asks, if One Tree

880
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 1: Hill was cast now, as you being the mothers on

881
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 1: the show, who would you play deb Karen, Victoria, Lydia Ellie.

882
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 1: That's fun? Uh man, I would love Debor Ellie. Yeah.

883
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 1: I mean Victoria is so fun too. Yeah, I would

884
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 1: play Victoria. I don't have the moxie for Victoria. I'm

885
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 1: so no. I'm so intimated by Daphne because she's just

886
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:17,959
Speaker 1: so like, she's so razor sharp and I'm so slouchy

887
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 1: and like awkward and I make dumb faces. I couldn't.

888
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 1: I couldn't. You're an actress, but I couldn't do it.

889
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: I'm what I'm saying. I got love. It's like she

890
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: does the thing. I loved it. Yeah, she's got a

891
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,879
Speaker 1: different set of tools. You two can do that though,

892
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 1: you two can go like Rais or Sharp. Yeah, I

893
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 1: mean it's fun. I think that's that's the funnest, the

894
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,760
Speaker 1: funnest thing. It's the most fun thing about acting. I

895
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: find all of all the places that you can't comfortably

896
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: sit in real life. Do that how interesting is? It's

897
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 1: like I feel like my son sign is Ellie, but

898
00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 1: like my moon sign is Karen. Like okay, yeah, I

899
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 1: was going to say that the character that feels the

900
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 1: most obvious for me to play as Victoria, but I

901
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 1: think I would have had a lot of fun playing Karen. Yeah,

902
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: that's a good question. Valerie wants to know when young

903
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 1: Keith is haunting Dan, he's always wearing the same outfit.

904
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 1: That's true, tend to not change clothes. I think you

905
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: sort of. Yeah, if you had to choose one of

906
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: your outfits from the show as a ghost outfit for

907
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 1: your character, which question? Great question? Um, okay, the last

908
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 1: episode I was in like a camel tan shirt with

909
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 1: red lips and that a raid. I think that would

910
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: be my ghost outfit. Super into it. Oh, I love that.

911
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: You know what popped into my head? Which feels so random.

912
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 1: There was a really cute episode. I think it was

913
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 1: in I don't know if it was season eight or nine,

914
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: when Brook and Julian are having this like doable date day,

915
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 1: they like go out on all these little adventures. And

916
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 1: I had this really cute gray, like square neck striped

917
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: dress with an a line skirt, and I just remember

918
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: there's like a scene where we get on a vespa

919
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 1: and I just remember feeling like so cute in that dress,

920
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: and so much of what I had to wear on

921
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 1: the show was uncomfortable. Um, and I loved that dress,

922
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: so that I it's kind of surprising. I guess it

923
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 1: would be that. Also, I am just going to go

924
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: ahead and caveat that by saying seeing us all in

925
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: our full cheerleading uniforms with the pants under the skirts

926
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 1: in the hospital is so funny. And I would love

927
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 1: for the group of us to be like March of

928
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: the Penguins and like be a cheer haunting. I'm just

929
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 1: gonna say that, right, haunting. So in the last episode, Um,

930
00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: we didn't talk about it on the podcast, but our

931
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:04,839
Speaker 1: wardrobe stylists like quit after that episode, like we had

932
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:08,839
Speaker 1: worn him out and fine, you know, wasn't the right fit.

933
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: And you're being very polite, being super plate. We didn't

934
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: get along, and um, it was the best thing that

935
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 1: ever happened to us because we got Carol Cutshaw to

936
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,240
Speaker 1: come in and be our stylist. And what you'll see

937
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 1: from like this episode out is we look cute. And

938
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 1: all of season five Carol had me and basically like

939
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: nightgowns with a vest, Like I were a slip in

940
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 1: a vest every episode and that did become your uniform.

941
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: It still I'm still doing it. Yeah, the slip in

942
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 1: a vest, that's the vibe outside of cheer hauntaut That's

943
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 1: a great question, Valerie, thank you well. I loved this episode.

944
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: I love it was perfect, the light spots in the

945
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:05,760
Speaker 1: dark spots. There's so many memes on the internet from

946
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 1: this episode. It was so much anticipation, so much stress

947
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 1: and joy and ups and downs, and uh, I thought

948
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 1: it had everything and had everything you want from One

949
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 1: Tree Hill when you tune in from start to finish.

950
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 1: We want to spin a wheel. What are we most

951
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 1: likely we're most likely to win the state championship? Am I? Hey?

952
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 1: What a we got? Oh? Who is most likely to

953
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 1: have watched One Tree Hill Weekly when it aired? Chad? No,

954
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Do you think? No? I thought, oh, yeah, Antoine, right,

955
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, because Chad was always like working

956
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 1: on his act. He was always working on acting, so

957
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 1: I feel like he would watch it back a lot

958
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 1: because he would want to like dissect and study and

959
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 1: fior what was good and what wasn't and how to

960
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 1: make it improve it for next time. He was also

961
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: just on set so much like I feel like we

962
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 1: were all tread so much. Who was ever home? Yeah,

963
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 1: but you're right at Antoine because Antoine watches it as

964
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: a fan. Antoine's like I didn't read the script, like crazy, Yeah,

965
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 1: I didn't know that was happening. Haley got hit back car.

966
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 1: That was always the best when he would come to

967
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 1: work and be like, Yo, did you see the episode

968
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 1: last night? I believe, And we're like, bro, we had

969
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: that script like six weeks ago. You know, I don't

970
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 1: read so funny which character from the show would be

971
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 1: a teen drama fanatic? And like, oh or Bevan yeah

972
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 1: or Bevin? Yeah, g might have been watching watching sports,

973
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 1: I think so. I think it's deb I think she's

974
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 1: just like pilled out in her bed room, like I'm

975
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 1: gonna watch these kids remember the good old days, like

976
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 1: the darkness of like watching teenagers when you're a full adult,

977
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 1: just like these are my glory days. Gons Well. The

978
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 1: next episode of season four, episode ten Songs to Love

979
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 1: and Die by again with the creepy titles. Can't wait

980
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 1: to see what happens. I hope nobody dies. I think

981
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 1: Rick Fox maybe does. But other than that, Dante, Oh

982
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 1: you guys, I love this. Hey, we did was the guys?

983
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986
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