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Speaker 1: First of all, i'd like to thank you for coming

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Speaker 1: on our show. I remember I seen you and at

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Speaker 1: All Star weekend in Chicago, and I asked you to

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Speaker 1: come on our show, told you I was a fan

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Speaker 1: and wanted you to come on.

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Speaker 2: So I remember, but.

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Speaker 3: All Star in Chicago, it was a while ago, but

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Speaker 3: it was a month after my surgery.

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Speaker 2: It was and I was, I was on drugs.

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Speaker 3: I was I was like a zombie, like I was

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Speaker 3: really trying to I was struggling, trying to get through.

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Speaker 1: I remember seeing you and I remember asking you to

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Speaker 1: come on the on the show and stuff. And like

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Speaker 1: a couple of days ago, I just seen the East

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Speaker 1: sixty interview and I just seen at the end of it.

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Speaker 4: I didn't know you got traded to Phoenix.

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Speaker 1: I just seen the end of the interview and we

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Speaker 1: was coming out here and I was like, man, we

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Speaker 1: got to reach out to because I seen that All

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Speaker 1: Star and I wanted to to get it.

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Speaker 4: But I was a fan.

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Speaker 1: Well I am still a fan, but you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, and I'm a big, big fan of you.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad that you came on the show.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate y'all for having me for real, it's dope.

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Speaker 1: When you first made it to w n b A

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Speaker 1: who was the first person to bust your ass?

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't say I got my ass buss, to be honest,

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Speaker 3: I came in real ready, But I would say the

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Speaker 3: most challenging defensive assignment I had was mine More.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so you got the end of my more right

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Speaker 4: before she.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but that was my matchup, just straight out the gate,

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Speaker 3: and I was like, damn good. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It was just like she just did whatever she.

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Speaker 3: Wanted, any shot, any shot, any anything like over two hands,

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Speaker 3: perfect contest anything.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It was like I never felt helpless as a defender.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: It's one of those I'm just like.

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Speaker 3: There's really nothing that I could that I could do,

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Speaker 3: you know, but looking back, especially knowing that you know,

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Speaker 3: she's not in the league anymore, it was it's such

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Speaker 3: an honor to have had the chance to go up

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Speaker 3: against her.

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Speaker 5: Yo yo Yo. We live on location. We we we

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Speaker 5: visible with a Verrison this season. That's the blackest one

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Speaker 5: we out here live on location in the desert. We

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Speaker 5: had to come way out here to Phoenix p h

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Speaker 5: O p h A Phoenix airs On and we had

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Speaker 5: to come get a get a special young lady All

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Speaker 5: Star Champion, Champion, Ding Ding Ding. You want champion for

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Speaker 5: my Chicago Skuys. So you know what I'm saying. We

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Speaker 5: had to come all the way out here to the

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Speaker 5: Desert Diamond. This shields in the building. Everybody that loved

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Speaker 5: the diamond, this shields Phoenix Mercury.

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Speaker 4: What up, Tony. Thank you for filling Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Guys for having me. Man, I'm looking forward to this conversation.

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Speaker 4: Presented by Visible.

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Speaker 1: You are you're twenty seven years old and your pops

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Speaker 1: played for them Saint Louis Cardinals. You know your boy

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Speaker 1: from the Loop. You know what I'm saying. I remember

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Speaker 1: that when with us. You know your boy from the

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Speaker 1: Loo and he's definitely a Cardinal fan. Keep the Cardinal

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Speaker 1: had on you was a baby in the Saint Louis Day.

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Speaker 1: I know it was only just a year. Do you

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Speaker 1: having like pictures and stuff or from the Cardinal.

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Speaker 2: I got a picture.

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Speaker 3: I got a picture with my dad holding me on

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Speaker 3: their home opener of like family Day.

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Speaker 2: He's holding me.

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Speaker 3: I'm like looking over his shoulder and it's the back

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Speaker 3: of his jersey, but it's like me and the picture, So.

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Speaker 4: It's like you're all excited because she got a picture.

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Speaker 4: She was a baby Cardinal.

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Speaker 5: She don't care about Saint Louis or the Cardinals. Bro,

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Speaker 5: it was I remember when you was a year old.

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Speaker 5: I remember when he paid team. That picture is that

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Speaker 5: you don't care about. I remember when we had squad,

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Speaker 5: Like a distant picture. That's part of the family tree, right,

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Speaker 5: Saint Louis ain't got nothing to do with this. I'm

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Speaker 5: just saying her daddy played with the Cardinals, which is

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Speaker 5: the best team in baseball.

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Speaker 4: Thank you. I can I believe it.

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Speaker 5: He just way around the block, came up the avenue

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Speaker 5: and brought Saint Louis Cardinals into this.

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Speaker 4: Man going on, Man, But you got a family full

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Speaker 1: Your mom went to Tennessee, your dad is a baseball

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Speaker 1: your brother is an athlete. So it was only giving.

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Speaker 1: It's in your blood. Like, but you played baseball first?

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Speaker 1: What made you go from baseball? What's playing the baseball first?

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Speaker 1: And then what made you go from baseball to basketball?

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Speaker 2: We're cracking that thing absolutely absolutely.

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Speaker 3: I mean baseball was just it was the first board

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Speaker 3: I was ever around. Yeah, you know, just like going

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Speaker 3: to the field with my mom when my dad was playing,

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Speaker 3: and then when my brother was playing, traveling around with him.

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Speaker 3: It was just like that was the way for me

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Speaker 3: him were in the cages. You know, I'm gonna be

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Speaker 3: I want to kick it with you know. So spent

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Speaker 3: was the first sport that I gravitated to. But you know,

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Speaker 3: thinking about a career, and you know, when I chose

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Speaker 3: so at the time, I was, you know, starting to

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Speaker 2: This, you know.

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Speaker 3: And I played some other sports too, but basketball was

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Speaker 3: really the one that I knew that I could see

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Speaker 3: of what I could be in a.

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Speaker 1: Common Who was the first girl you've seen that you

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Speaker 1: just kind of gravitated too, It was like, oh, she

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Speaker 3: You know what, that's a good question. That's a really

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Speaker 3: good question. I'd have to really think about that because

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Speaker 3: you know, in girls basketball, it's like it's not like

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Speaker 2: You gotta play, and that's what I did.

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Speaker 3: So you know, to think of like who's the first

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Speaker 4: That's a hard What one of the guys you fell

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Speaker 3: Ryan Harrow he went to uh he went to Walton

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure exactly what happened, but like in high school,

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Speaker 3: So that was like for sure, like who I was watching.

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Speaker 4: In high school? When did you feel like.

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Speaker 1: What was that moment where you felt like you can

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Speaker 1: you wanted to best in the country, Like I know

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Speaker 1: you played AAU ball with Stuwie and some of the

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Speaker 3: Well, it was before high school, so like in eighth grade,

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Speaker 3: you know, I played on a team with I played

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Speaker 2: We was all on the team together.

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Speaker 3: And so I remember we went to Boo Williams and

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Speaker 3: I'm not getting recruited, no nothing, And we went out

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Speaker 3: we won Boo Williams.

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Speaker 2: And like the next like week, like Mailbox.

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Speaker 1: Was just like crazy. Yeah, it's just about wis. When

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Speaker 2: Same things, the same hotel.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I've been to Bool a few times, you know,

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Speaker 3: so I can't even remember when, but I've definitely been

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's crazy you remember that.

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Speaker 4: No, you might be too old for that, but but.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody don't. It's just such a great tournament.

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Speaker 1: So tell us about the AAU team, like you Stullie,

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Speaker 1: when all y'all got together and you playing with the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're talking about the middle school team that I

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Speaker 3: that team. That team was just a lot of fun.

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Speaker 4: When you went to high school?

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Speaker 5: Did you walked through though, we like with like some swag,

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Speaker 5: like you know already been we've.

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Speaker 4: Been busting up high school players anyway.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: I was like because I was at private school up

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Speaker 3: And I don't know if you're familiar, but Norcross produced

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Speaker 3: went on to like, you know, I won three state

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Speaker 3: just had a lot of success at the high school level.

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Speaker 1: When did you feel like you was like, not only

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Speaker 1: I'm the best player in Atlanta, but I can be

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Speaker 1: one of the best player, if not the best player

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think that.

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Speaker 3: Once I got my USA invite in ninth grade, I

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Speaker 3: was you know, that was like that was my moment

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Speaker 3: got to Colorado Springs and like now I'm seeing all

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Speaker 4: How was that experience for you being there?

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Speaker 5: They still have like the big banquet and everybody dress

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Speaker 3: They had the banquet and everything, so you know, you're

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Speaker 4: How many visits you take, I mean school visits you take?

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Speaker 3: I took all my visits before I committed, so I

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Speaker 4: So was your mom heartbroken that you didn't go to

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Speaker 4: Grade or why you ain't c.

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Speaker 4: You know, the baby blue baby Blue do something.

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Speaker 3: So, like I said, I ended up where I felt

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Speaker 1: Know, wish was Yeah, let me ask you this, like

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Speaker 4: Another school, transfer problem.

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Speaker 1: They can go to the final four and be like, hey,

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Speaker 4: I don't feel comfortable. I just want to go somewhere else.

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Speaker 4: In and wait a whole nothing.

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Speaker 3: But with some of the decisions, you know, it's also evident,

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Speaker 4: You don't see schools getting into all that.

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Speaker 1: And the good thing about you see somebody at a

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Speaker 1: lot of guys even before you, they had to sit

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00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,040
Speaker 1: out the whole year and had to go through that

444
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,800
Speaker 1: whole everything, and you know, they label a person, oh,

445
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 1: just because you will sit out of the whole.

446
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:15,760
Speaker 4: They'll try to label you just because.

447
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 1: You want to go to a different situation that you

448
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:21,159
Speaker 1: feel like is better for you in your situation. So

449
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,439
Speaker 1: you you're one of the ones that that you like

450
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:25,359
Speaker 1: a sacrifice.

451
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:25,920
Speaker 4: Yeah.

452
00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,880
Speaker 2: I mean before me, like in women's basketball, it was.

453
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:34,840
Speaker 3: Like you don't transfer forbiddeness, especially for all Americans, especially

454
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 3: a ACC freshman of the year, especially a you know,

455
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 3: all the whatever I was after my freshman year, it's

456
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,959
Speaker 3: like what you stayed for four years and that it

457
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 3: is what it is. And so when I decided to leave,

458
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:52,439
Speaker 3: it was like it was like shocked, like like I

459
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,440
Speaker 3: had just like I don't even know, Like the response

460
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 3: was just like it was crazy. And so you know,

461
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,679
Speaker 3: after that, obviously you know, like a lot more, a

462
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,720
Speaker 3: lot more girls around the country started transferring, and you know,

463
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:10,440
Speaker 3: started to you know, I feel like be empowered once

464
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,240
Speaker 3: again to like do what they felt was best and

465
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:14,200
Speaker 3: what was right for them.

466
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:15,680
Speaker 4: So did you have to sit out?

467
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 2: Yeah? I had to sit out?

468
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 4: How was that for you? Like, like you said, going

469
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 4: from being first team playing basketball every day? Damn there.

470
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 3: I mean it was hard, but you know, like Tom

471
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 3: Tomming was really important because I needed to get a surgery.

472
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 3: So you know, I ended up getting a much needed

473
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 3: surgery on my leg.

474
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 2: And so my sit out here was mainly just recovering

475
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 2: from that.

476
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 4: Yeah.

477
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:43,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, I ask you this about the decision, Like, you know,

478
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 1: who kind of convinced you? Your mom or your dad

479
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:50,159
Speaker 1: kind of convinced you, like, like believe in what you

480
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,880
Speaker 1: believe in because you know that's a Harvard city, especially

481
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 1: for a young lady going to college, and you know

482
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 1: it's forbid right to do what you try to do.

483
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 1: So like who can to confirmed you and supported you?

484
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,639
Speaker 1: Like like, yeah, I'm making the right decision, this is

485
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,159
Speaker 1: what I want to do, this is what I believe

486
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 1: I should do.

487
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean definitely my parents, you know I think that,

488
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:15,199
Speaker 3: Like I'm super blessed to have parents who like allowed

489
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:19,159
Speaker 3: me to make decisions like that and and and heard.

490
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 2: Me, you know, and listen to me when I spoke.

491
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 3: It was one of those things where my mom knew

492
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,439
Speaker 3: that if I was calling her and saying that I

493
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 3: was ready to go, that I was for real. And

494
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,439
Speaker 3: you know, she didn't question it, she didn't try to

495
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 3: talk me out of it. And you know, I'm really

496
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 3: blessed to have parents who you know, support me in

497
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 3: every decision that.

498
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 2: I made, because ultimately, you know.

499
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,400
Speaker 3: It's the reason why I'm here, and you know, I'm

500
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 3: in an amazing spot.

501
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 4: Now, good job, straight up, good job? How big?

502
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 1: Would did the smile grow like like three or four

503
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 1: inches once you chose Tennesseee the transfer to or it

504
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 1: was just like like two or three?

505
00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was she was really happy. She was over.

506
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 4: She got the word that that that the world colors.

507
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 2: Again got to sing Rocky Top after all.

508
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I already know. Did she have did she

509
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 4: have her your and all the stuff with the.

510
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:23,160
Speaker 5: Shirts without all of the style, her letterman's everything.

511
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, I don't mean I ain't trying to

512
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 1: skip and just get past everything, but like, how was

513
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 1: it like you went to Tennessee Canvas? Parker is like

514
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 1: one of the goats right of Tennessee. Like for you

515
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 1: to win a championship, first, for you to get Canvas

516
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,919
Speaker 1: Park on your team, then to win a championship with

517
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 1: Cannas Parker, with the Tennessee Pride and.

518
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,680
Speaker 4: All that, How was I going to say in Chicago?

519
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 1: Though, apologized in Chicago, which that's a big deal in Chicago, Like,

520
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 1: how was that to just get that?

521
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, it was one of those

522
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 3: the stars kind of aligned, you know, for for us

523
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 3: to have been there at the same time, you know,

524
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,640
Speaker 3: and Kansas is who she is, and so it was special.

525
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,199
Speaker 3: You know, special for a lot of reasons, you know,

526
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 3: but you know, talking about that specifically, like you couldn't.

527
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 4: Really ask for me, right, there no better?

528
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 2: Right, it was perfect.

529
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 1: Do you remember when you walked on the campus and

530
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 1: you in Tennessee and you seeing Kansas Park or Shamika

531
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 1: Hole's claw, you know, the three the Three Meets and

532
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 1: the history of the past summit. Did you feel that,

533
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,439
Speaker 1: like that legacy when you walked in that gym with

534
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 1: the championship banners and all that stuff.

535
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 3: I mean, you can't not. It's like you and you

536
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 3: on Rocky Top, you on the summit. Yeah, like you

537
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 3: and and and I had been introduced to that since

538
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 3: a very young age, you know, like my mom was

539
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 3: always taking me to Knoxville like home coming, whatever, We're

540
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 3: going to full games, We're going to the basketball game.

541
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 3: So you know, it was kind of like seeing my

542
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 3: childhood dreams come to fruition. And also just like knowing

543
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 3: I was in a space where like women's basketball was

544
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 3: heralded and like respected, Like you know, the way they

545
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 3: treat women's basketball in Knoxville is like none other family. Yeah,

546
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,959
Speaker 3: so it was it was a magical experience.

547
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 2: It was.

548
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:26,679
Speaker 1: It was Dope, you played overseas before, you've played like

549
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 1: a lot of girls haven't. A lot of females haven't

550
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 1: did that. Like what made you play overseas before? You

551
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:34,880
Speaker 1: went to the draft?

552
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 2: Well?

553
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 3: I so I transferred, and with that transfer, you know,

554
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 3: you get that that extra year on the back end.

555
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,199
Speaker 3: So initially I had said I was coming back, you know,

556
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 3: So the year I was supposed to get drafted, the

557
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 3: draft had passed, I'm coming back to school the end,

558
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 3: and I just remember I went home, like after the

559
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 3: semester ended, I went home and like I was like

560
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,120
Speaker 3: having like anxiety attacks and I was like really struggling

561
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 3: with the idea of going back to school, like it

562
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 3: stopped making sense to me.

563
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 2: And so then I I changed my mind, you know.

564
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 2: And it's like.

565
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 3: And it's like in a situation where all the adults

566
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 3: in the room and whoever else is like, you can't

567
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 3: do that once again, my parents, you know, you have

568
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 3: the right to change your mind, you know. Don't feel

569
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 3: bad about that, about doing what you feel is right

570
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 3: in your heart, you know. So, although the draft was over,

571
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 3: ended up getting an offer from a team in Turkey,

572
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 3: and I was able to go and play a professional

573
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 3: season prior to the draft the next year.

574
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 5: Hey, that's gangster, Like I swear you remember when I

575
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 5: went back to school after my freshman year, I did

576
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 5: not I feel like I just for like literally what

577
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 5: you just said. I felt the same way, like I'll

578
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 5: never forget.

579
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 4: Couldn't nobody believe him?

580
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 5: That pressure the first day out when the first day

581
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 5: I went back and had to go, Like I remember

582
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 5: coming going to school and I was like the first

583
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 5: when I got back from classes that day, I was

584
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 5: like damn, And it was like it was like but

585
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 5: it was for me, it was like, you're not about

586
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 5: to leave school and try and do like like you

587
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 5: about to you here, like like you said that the

588
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 5: deadline had passed. I can't say this or that I was,

589
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 5: but that my second year was nowhere close as fun

590
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 5: as my first year because of that, because I felt

591
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 5: like you should have left watching my dog mcghetti get drafted,

592
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 5: and that year I'm like.

593
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 4: Man, I should have left, I should have left.

594
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 5: And then it was like I felt like my whole

595
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 5: second year I just got I just got like the

596
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 5: microscope put on me, like they picked my game a

597
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 5: boar people doubling and triple. They trying to say my

598
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 5: numbers was down there the same, almost identical. They tried

599
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 5: to say that I didn't do this, And then I

600
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 5: was like I should have took my ass left.

601
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

602
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 4: Absolute, that was.

603
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 3: That decision, well, the transfer after my freshman year, and

604
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 3: that decision, it gave me the knowledge of like relying

605
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 3: on my intuition like so much more at a very

606
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 3: young age.

607
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 2: And you know, like you have that gut feeling.

608
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 4: Like you said, your body feeling for.

609
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 3: Whatever reason, it's like the cameras, the coaches, the whoever,

610
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 3: the whatever is, it's like pulling you the opposite of

611
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 3: what's in here, and so you know, I'm grateful again,

612
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 3: you know every decision I've ever made that was controversial

613
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 3: or taboo or whatever.

614
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,719
Speaker 2: Like I'm in the best position I could be in life.

615
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: You know who you credit to the game though, because

616
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: like your game is like like Tamika catchings, Like I

617
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: love Tamika catchings. I played small for with Like small

618
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: fours are all around players. They play defense, they shoot three,

619
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: they do all You didn't shoot three.

620
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 4: I didn't. But I'm just saying into yourself and like

621
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 4: to Mika catch and shoot threes, she understands what I'm

622
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 4: talking about.

623
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: Yes, I messed up my question, but you know what

624
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like a small fo was like an all

625
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: around player, and you're an all around player, Like who

626
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: you catered to the game. You just can't get that

627
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: off the fly, like who you catered to kind of

628
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: understand like what's going on.

629
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's tough because I didn't grow up

630
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 3: watching women's basketball. You know, games wasn't televised like that.

631
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 3: You know, it wasn't the w n b A was

632
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 3: Like I knew I wanted to go, but I wasn't

633
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 3: really watching because games and so you know, I think

634
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 3: that once again, like I had such a strong belief

635
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 3: in like how special I was as an athlete, you know,

636
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 3: like I knew I was faster, I knew I could

637
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 3: jump higher, I knew there were things physically that I

638
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 3: could do that I hadn't seen.

639
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 2: No other girl, dude.

640
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 3: And I think that it was amplifying that more so

641
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 3: than watching a player and watching a pro and like

642
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 3: I didn't really have like a player that I was like,

643
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 3: I want to be like that, you know, I was

644
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 3: just like I just want to be special, like go

645
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 3: out here and just do.

646
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 2: What I do.

647
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 4: When did you get to the point of that?

648
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: When did you get to the point, Because like you

649
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 1: always get to the point where like you don't see it,

650
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: you don't see it, and then you run to them dolls,

651
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: like how you ran into Maya Moore and be like, oh,

652
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: it's another level.

653
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, out here in these streets, I gotta yeah, I

654
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 4: gotta tap in.

655
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 2: I'd say.

656
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 3: In middle school, right, Like, so I was still at

657
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 3: private school, we were the academy, and every year we

658
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 3: went to this this basketball camp. I can't remember the

659
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 3: name of the camp, but when we would go there,

660
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 3: it would be like all these public schools and stuff.

661
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 3: And so when I got there, Southwest the Cab was there,

662
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 3: and Southwest the Cab girls team had just won like

663
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 3: four straight state championships, right, so like all they girls

664
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 3: was like going D one whatever, Like they was tough.

665
00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 2: And so that was the first time I had.

666
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 4: Seen mean like different level.

667
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was.

668
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 3: Looking at them like, oh, like okay, like I'm young,

669
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 3: I'm in seventh grade, I'm in middle school, but like

670
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 3: I'm like.

671
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 2: I got to get to like to that level, you know.

672
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 3: And so at that point I had never trained, I

673
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 3: was never in the gym.

674
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 2: I was just raw.

675
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 3: And so by the time I got to ninth grade,

676
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 3: that was the first time I really started like working

677
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 3: out and like spending time in the gym and working.

678
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: On my shooting, working on your technique and stuff like that.

679
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 5: Tell me about like you said you went to Turkey,

680
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 5: when and where were you when you found out about

681
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 5: the difference in the value of their money than when

682
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 5: you what it was supposed to be.

683
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 2: Well, I was.

684
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 3: I had just got over there, and my teammate at

685
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 3: the time, Orleana Larkins, Uh, she had like brought it

686
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 3: up to me about the exchange right and everything and

687
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 3: how like you could like take some US money and

688
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 3: like exchange it and get more like and I was

689
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 3: like not really understanding that at all. So it was

690
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 3: probably like ray. When I had got out there, to

691
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 3: be honest, what was the difference though, it was like

692
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 3: two to one. And then the second year, so I

693
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 3: had signed for two years, the second year it was

694
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 3: like five to one. It had like double So my

695
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 3: contract was like worth double in like their money. And

696
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 3: so my team was having issues like trying to fulfill

697
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 3: paying that contract out and they was asking.

698
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 2: Me to take less and da da da da dah.

699
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 2: And I was like, I'm gonna just go. I'm gonna go.

700
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 4: You know.

701
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 3: So that that that currency exchange rate is is a

702
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 3: it's a crazy dynamic when you talk about.

703
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 5: Was you getting more in Turkey or when you or

704
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 5: was you getting more when you got to.

705
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 4: The w n B A.

706
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 2: Oh I was getting more in Turkey.

707
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 4: Even with the foolishness going on. Yeah, dang.

708
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: So that's like kind of put you up on game

709
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: early because a lot of girls go to the league college,

710
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: go to the w n B A. Then they realized, oh,

711
00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go overseas, like, oh, this is more money

712
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: and what I was just getting paid them two three months?

713
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 5: Hold on you was getting twenty Wait, hold on, hold on,

714
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 5: you're getting twenty five k a month and one hundred

715
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 5: dollar bills.

716
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 2: And then you went from that to four KNY Literally

717
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 2: my first.

718
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 3: My first went back to Turkey, my first man, my

719
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 3: first wn B A check.

720
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 2: We got the envelope. I was like, I'm back man.

721
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 2: I opened that.

722
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 3: I opened it up, I sat it on the table,

723
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 3: I went tooking that.

724
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 4: I feel like.

725
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 2: For real, I went and tooking that and I left

726
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 2: it there for like months. I did not cash it.

727
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 2: It was just there.

728
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 3: I mean I had I had money from Turkey, like

729
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 3: I was good, and I was like this I could

730
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 3: just cash just whenever I go.

731
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 4: To the underwomen.

732
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 5: She just let that thing, just let it, just just

733
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 5: let it.

734
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: How was it preparing for the draft? Like, did it

735
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 1: take you a long time to figure out what you

736
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: was gonna wear to the draft?

737
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 2: Well, I was still in Turkey.

738
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 3: I was still in Turkey, so you know, like there's

739
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 3: that overlap that exists with overseas and the w NBA.

740
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 3: So I was finishing up my season overseas and so

741
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 3: my team allowed me obviously to fly back to New

742
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 3: York for the draft. I got invited to the draft,

743
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 3: so I flew in like two days before the draft,

744
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 3: and then like figuring out what I wanted to wear,

745
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:28,919
Speaker 3: Like I knew I wanted to design.

746
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 2: A suit, you know, and oh, you designed it.

747
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I went and I had a designer tour

748
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 3: he super Dope in New York, and we just kind

749
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,280
Speaker 3: of put it together. And funny story, like my suit,

750
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,439
Speaker 3: the one that I had on at draft night, is.

751
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 2: Not the suit that I was supposed to have.

752
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 3: Like the suit I was supposed to wear was supposed

753
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 3: to be blue, and that suit is like it's like

754
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 3: a fusha Like it was like it was crazy how

755
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 3: it all went down.

756
00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, we're talking about clothes, Like your swag be

757
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: on like a thousand trill, like you've got a lot

758
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: of I always love how you dress and how you looking.

759
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 4: I got two questions.

760
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: Just talk about your swag and talk about how I

761
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: love how they do the w NBA players when they

762
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,760
Speaker 1: come to the game and they show their whole drip,

763
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:20,439
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And they.

764
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 4: Be all over the place. But it be a lot

765
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 4: of dope up in there.

766
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,479
Speaker 1: But I always recognize your swag, especially your shoe game

767
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: and stuff. So just tell us about your swag how

768
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: you you know, you come up with some of the

769
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: stuff that you were and how you want to work.

770
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 3: It's just being authentic really, Like I'm actually like very

771
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 3: into fashion, right, Like I genuinely care about it.

772
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 2: It is a part of who I am and what

773
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 2: I do.

774
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,879
Speaker 3: Like outside of the tunnel, I still like to get

775
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 3: my fits off, like it's not it's not even about

776
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 3: the tunnel, like I do this in real life. So

777
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 3: you know, for me, you know, like I said, sometimes

778
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 3: it's a feeling thing. Sometimes it's a geographic thing, like

779
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 3: I'm in Phoenix now, so you'll see a lot of

780
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 3: like looser clothing on me, a lot of like holes

781
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 3: and just cause I need it's hot out here, and

782
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 3: so you know, I like to you know, it's a

783
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 3: it's a feminine and there's like a tomboy. It's like

784
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 3: I like to walk the line of like both. You know,

785
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 3: it depends on how I feel. So I just love

786
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 3: fashion and the way that it allows me to express myself,

787
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 3: especially when you you know, sometimes may not always have

788
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 3: the words what made you.

789
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: Get into like shoes and tennis shoes and be that

790
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: deep into fashion? Yeah? Who puts you on? Like who

791
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: made you? Or you was just always to dress up?

792
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 5: Yeah?

793
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 2: I was always I was, you know, like when I

794
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 2: was younger, like I used to.

795
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 3: My mom would buy me clothes, but then there wasn't

796
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 3: the clothing. I was so like whenever I did have

797
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 3: a little bit of money, like I would go and

798
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 3: buy the stuff that I wanted to wear, and I

799
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 3: was all over the place, like I went through like

800
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 3: a skateboard phase. I went through like all these different phases.

801
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 3: But I went to private school, so anytime I got

802
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 3: to wear regular clothes, it was exciting for me. And

803
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 3: you know, it was always like a conversation between me

804
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 3: and my mom, like.

805
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 2: Where you get that shirt at? Where do you get

806
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 2: like who bought you that? And I don't know.

807
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 3: For me, like I said, it was really just a

808
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 3: form of expression, right, Like being in uniform all day

809
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 3: was just like it is what it is. And then

810
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 3: when you get a chance to like wear your own stuff,

811
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 3: you know, I just kind of just used it and

812
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 3: took always crazy.

813
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 5: If somebody went through like private school, always come out

814
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:47,280
Speaker 5: being a designer just because what you said so thirsty

815
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 5: to get a fit off, Like I'm about to kill

816
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 5: them with this one.

817
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 2: The mom.

818
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:52,760
Speaker 4: That's crazy.

819
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: And you always wear the dope frames, like I know

820
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: you you're doing stuff with glasses. Tell us how it

821
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: is working with one site in the whole project with that, well, you.

822
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 2: Know, I have I'm very blessed.

823
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 3: I have such an amazing partnership with Oakley and their

824
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 3: philanthropy wing is is. Yeah, so like I played, you know,

825
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 3: those are the frames that I play in, you know.

826
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 3: And so the first couple of years, the first couple

827
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 3: of years I was in the league, I didn't have

828
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 3: the partnership, you know, and you know I ended up,

829
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 3: you know, standing out so much so that we were

830
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 3: able to to inc a deal. And you know, with that,

831
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 3: I was then able to invest time and energy and

832
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 3: resources into like philanthropy. And what was near and dear

833
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 3: to me was was eyesight Envision. And so actually yesterday

834
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 3: I just flew back from Chicago. I had a one

835
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 3: site clinic, yeah at KIP and you know I was

836
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 3: able to every year I do an eye clinic with

837
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 3: one side and I get free eye exams and I

838
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 3: give eyeglasses on the spot, you know, for whoever wants

839
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 3: to come through.

840
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 4: So you just like, you know, like my thing.

841
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 1: When I was younger, like you, was always called a

842
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: nerd if you wore glasses.

843
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 4: So I never used to want to word my glass.

844
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: It took me to be like thirty six, thirty seven

845
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 1: years old, I'll find like, fuck that, man, I'm wearing

846
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 1: my glass.

847
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 4: I can't right my tie. My eyes are tied from contacts.

848
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 2: Like so, I.

849
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 3: Didn't I didn't know I needed glasses until about eleventh grade.

850
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 4: You know.

851
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,720
Speaker 3: Up until then, I'm like telling my mom. I'm like, mom,

852
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 3: having a hard time seeing. I'm seeing like double rims

853
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 3: when I'm playing basketball. She's like, girl, you fine, you

854
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 3: come from good stock, good grade. On the one hand,

855
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 3: I come from great stock. You know, I'm fast as

856
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 3: hell woo physically, but I'm like these eyes, mom, trying

857
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 3: to tell you. And so finally she took me to

858
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 3: get an exam, and that's when they told her that

859
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 3: I was like really in need of glasses. And so

860
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 3: it wasn't up until eleventh grade that you know, that

861
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 3: that point, I was just happy to be able to see.

862
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 3: I didn't care what nobody said about it. But I

863
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 3: was not going to play in those glasses. And that

864
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 3: was the nerdy thing.

865
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 4: That was the.

866
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,959
Speaker 1: Old school kareem map dude with goggles telling them James

867
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: word the goggles.

868
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 4: That was, I.

869
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 2: Was not sexy.

870
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: They talked about me so bad. I'm telling when I

871
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: walked on the court, I was skinny, little head. The

872
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: goglins looked almost bigger than my head. They was like,

873
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: I got him.

874
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 4: I couldn't.

875
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:31,720
Speaker 2: I couldn't. I couldn't get with the glasses.

876
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 3: And it took me a couple of years to like,

877
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 3: it took me a few years to accept that, like

878
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 3: I was gonna be having to play basketball with glasses

879
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 3: on my face.

880
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 4: You didn't want to do contacts?

881
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 3: Well, my contacts, that's the thing. My contacts are glass.

882
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 3: And so that's the thing that a lot of people

883
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 3: don't understand about why I wear glasses, because the glasses

884
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 3: are not prescription. My contacts are made of glass, so

885
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 3: they're completely hard. So the glasses protect my contact lenses.

886
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 3: And so it took me getting hit once in my

887
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 3: eye without them and like almost losing my eye for

888
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 3: me to be like, you know what, bring me the glasses?

889
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 4: Why do you have the why do they have to

890
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 4: be glass?

891
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 3: So I have a I have an eye condition called

892
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 3: character Conis, and it's a basically corneal deformity that I

893
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 3: have in both my eyes. I've gotten surgery in both

894
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 3: my eyes now. But essentially the soft lenses that people

895
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 3: typically wear in the arenas, the lights are so bright

896
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 3: it ends up refracting through the lens and like looking

897
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 3: like glare.

898
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:38,720
Speaker 4: Like trees, like light trees.

899
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I have to wear these there's fixed lenses.

900
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 3: Like if I had them on, I could open my

901
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 3: eye and like tap of my eye, I wouldn't blink

902
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 3: or nothing.

903
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: So crazy like yeah, I used to have them contact

904
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: to have the look the little glass in the middle,

905
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,760
Speaker 1: and then the rest of it was like yeah.

906
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 2: I tried those two then work the whole.

907
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 5: Hand glass to know that look at you. I did

908
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 5: not know that. I did not know that.

909
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 4: In these streets. I've been through it. We go back

910
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 4: to the draft. How was this for you to experience streets?

911
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,879
Speaker 4: He's been through everything.

912
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: Tell us about the draft though, How was that for

913
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: you for you and your family to like experience that

914
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: and just get that in I mean.

915
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 3: It was amazing, you know, it was once again, it

916
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 3: was one of those those rare moments for me that

917
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 3: I get to be celebrated and feel like I had

918
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 3: actually achieved something. So having my family there was you know,

919
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 3: a dream come true. And you know, I'm happy to

920
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 3: be the highest drafted family members, so you know I

921
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 3: got that over my Yeah, yeah, so that was special.

922
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: Did you feel like you would slip a little bit

923
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 1: from not going in the previous draft to the next draft, Well.

924
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 2: You know, you never know.

925
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 3: You know, I was projected to go number one in

926
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 3: the year before, and obviously you never know, right what

927
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 3: could have should have happened, and you know, ended up

928
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 3: going third the next year.

929
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 2: But I went to the perfect place. You know, it's like.

930
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 6: Where did you God, I went to Chicagogo, and once

931
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 6: again it was like opportunity for me to come in

932
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,280
Speaker 6: make an immediate impact.

933
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 3: There was a need that I knew, I could feel,

934
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 3: you know, I had the skill set for it to

935
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,919
Speaker 3: go in and just be me and be special. So

936
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 3: you know, I was in the I was just in

937
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 3: the right place. You know, everything just worked out, cold Shine.

938
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,800
Speaker 1: So getting to the highest level and you seeing the

939
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: level of competition when I know you made all rookie team.

940
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 4: But when when in that season that you.

941
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: Felt like, oh man, I belong here and I'm good

942
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: enough to play on this level.

943
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 3: I mean, I think it was it was very early on.

944
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 3: You don't realize it until you're in the w NBA,

945
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 3: but like, every single one of my matchups was.

946
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 2: Like an Olympian you know.

947
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 3: It was like Angel mccartrey, Diana, you know, it was like,

948
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 3: you know.

949
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 2: Like Elena Beard.

950
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 3: Like it was like every night I was going against

951
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 3: like some dog like.

952
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 2: So it was very early on that I was like, listen,

953
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 2: you could.

954
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 3: Be scared and you could go out here and get

955
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 3: your ass bus or you could act like you belong here,

956
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 3: you know, and go be special. So you know, I

957
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 3: took all those matchups very personally, you know, and I

958
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 3: just went out and just kind of did my thing.

959
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 1: So how was it for you to see the highest

960
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: level of competition at every single position? Because of WNBA,

961
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 1: it's not like the NBA. It's not like like it's.

962
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 4: A bunch of teams, so it's the best of the best.

963
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: Right is the first time that every team got them

964
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: them hitters, just because it's not that many teams and

965
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: you shuffling the best of the best. So how was

966
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: it to just see the level of competition be that

967
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: high with so many female athletes and the history before.

968
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a high. It's a highly concentrated talent pool.

969
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 3: And like whenever I'm having this conversation with like people

970
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 3: who don't understand it, I just imagine if the NBA

971
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 3: only had twelve teams with twelves, how.

972
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 4: Good, how good those teams would be. That's what I'm saying.

973
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 4: So that was a good question.

974
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 3: Just like the way it feels is just every day,

975
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 3: every game, you gotta know, you know that whoever you're

976
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 3: going up against, like they can go.

977
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 4: They did everything you did everything.

978
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 5: Us think about it one through fifteen, about it.

979
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 2: One through twelve.

980
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 3: It ain't even fifteen spots in WNA twelve, you know,

981
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 3: Like it's just very it's a very potent level of

982
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 3: buckets and handles and shooting percentages.

983
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 2: Of all of that.

984
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 5: So obviously you in agreement with me saying we need

985
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 5: some other WNBA teams because like, like looking at it,

986
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 5: especially right now, looking at some of the people that

987
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 5: just got cut from teams, and like.

988
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 4: Howseway, like what is going on? We need more teams.

989
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 2: Right, absolutely.

990
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I feel very strongly that we

991
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,959
Speaker 3: do need more teams, and I'm happy that the conversations

992
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 3: are being had, you know, around expansion.

993
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 2: You know, it's it's.

994
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 3: Not been an easy process, right, it's not been easy

995
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 3: to get to this point where we're actually talking about it,

996
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 3: you know, So although it's not happening immediately, Like, I'm

997
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 3: happy to know that like pieces are being put in

998
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 3: place so that expansion can't take place.

999
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 4: How is it for y'all?

1000
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 5: Like from you being a current w NBA player, Like

1001
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 5: you watch it and like you see the release of

1002
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,280
Speaker 5: like some of these names or these ladies is being released.

1003
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 4: It's like great players, Like what the heck is going on? Yeah?

1004
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 3: I mean, job security in the wn b A is

1005
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 3: not guaranteed. You know, you gotta every day you fighting

1006
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 3: for your job.

1007
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 4: You know, you're not one of.

1008
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 2: Them guaranteed contracts. You know, it's like any day it

1009
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 2: could be gone.

1010
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 1: Injury can get you gone, Like any slight thing can

1011
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: get you gone for real? Do you like the new rules,

1012
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 1: like like what they're protecting women that if they take

1013
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: the time they're pregnant and they and they're protecting the kids. Well, hey,

1014
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: I can't just leave my new born baby or my

1015
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 1: my one year old baby or.

1016
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,720
Speaker 4: Somebody I love.

1017
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 3: I love the new eternity you know, rules and guidelines

1018
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 3: or whatever you call it that they have put in

1019
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:10,240
Speaker 3: place because their rights for mothers before the new CBA.

1020
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 2: Was was not good. It was not good at all.

1021
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 3: There was no infrastructure in place that really supported you

1022
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 3: if you wanted to, like you know, start a family

1023
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 3: or plan for a family.

1024
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 2: You know, like a lot of players were just like, I.

1025
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 3: Can't have no kids until I retire, you know, because

1026
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 3: it just wasn't no support for real. So I love

1027
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 3: that now you know, mothers and you know soon to

1028
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 3: be mothers are having the opportunity to go through their pregnancy.

1029
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 3: It's like and then in sports in general, not just

1030
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 3: women's basketball, you know, like mothers go through a lot,

1031
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:48,399
Speaker 3: Like we get pregnant. It's like a punishment, right like

1032
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 3: man like Allison Felix and like some of them track girls.

1033
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 3: Listening to them tell their stories about it, it's just

1034
00:49:55,040 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 3: like it's sad. So you know, I'm all about progressiveness

1035
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 3: and you know, us making room for more women's rights

1036
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 3: and support in that area, especially.

1037
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: All Star Game you make the All Star Game. When

1038
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: you make the All Star Game, now this is a

1039
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: whole other level. When you walk in that locker room,

1040
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: you seeing the girls that you was looking at coming

1041
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 1: to the league, like, oh this this DT, this is

1042
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: a super bird. These are the women that I was

1043
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: seeing before me. Like how was it for you your

1044
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: first All Star game? To make it as early as

1045
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 1: you made it year, you know what I'm saying. And

1046
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: just to be in that the atmosphere, it.

1047
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 3: Was so much fun. It was just fun, Like it

1048
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 3: was like no pressure. It was like just go out

1049
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 3: here and just be you. Anytime you tell me to

1050
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 3: be me, I'm gonna stand out just naturally. So I

1051
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 3: felt like All Star weekend was like the perfect stage

1052
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 3: for me to just go and just smile and have fun.

1053
00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 3: And you know, I'm looking forward to getting back to

1054
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 3: that stage age.

1055
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 1: After All Star Game. I see you and you just

1056
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 1: had your surgery. Can you tell us the process of

1057
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 1: when you found out about your surgery and the decision

1058
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 1: that you had to make about your surgery.

1059
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 3: It was interesting because I have I was in Italy,

1060
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 3: I was overseas and you know, I had a very

1061
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,399
Speaker 3: minor collision with a player you know, I've seen that

1062
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 3: I've been hit a hundred times harder one hundred times before.

1063
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 4: You know.

1064
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 3: And so after it had happened, you know, although I

1065
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 3: was in pain, I'm like, I'm good, y'all, Like, I'm good,

1066
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go.

1067
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 2: With stretch, I'm ice whatever.

1068
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 3: They're like, no, we think you should get an MRI,

1069
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 3: and I'm like, all right, fine, like I'll do the

1070
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 3: stupid MRI because whatever. So when it got it, agent

1071
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 3: calls me shortly after we have a game that night.

1072
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 3: Caused me and it's like, Diamond, you know, this is

1073
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 3: what you're dealing with. You got a tumoring spine.

1074
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 4: You know.

1075
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 3: You there was no making a decision. The decision was

1076
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 3: made for me. You coming home and you getting surgery,

1077
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 3: you know. And so at that point, it's like it's January,

1078
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 3: w BA starts. Camp starts in April, right, So it's

1079
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,879
Speaker 3: like do I rush this surgery and try to get

1080
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 3: back before camp, you know, or do I go and

1081
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 3: try to talk to like multiple neurosurgeons and try to

1082
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 3: find the best one.

1083
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 4: Right.

1084
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 3: So I was kind of up in the air about it,

1085
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 3: like I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna fly back to Atlanta

1086
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 3: and talk to my doctors there, you know, because this

1087
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:43,720
Speaker 3: is like this is like career defining surgeries that's about

1088
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 3: to take place, and like I'm still just being very

1089
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 3: optimistic about it, you know. And so ended up working

1090
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 3: out so that I could go to Chicago and get

1091
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:57,280
Speaker 3: the surgery done. And you know, that operation was nothing

1092
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 3: like what I thought it was going to be. You know,

1093
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 3: it's like those three hours that I was supposed to

1094
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 3: be in there, those three months of recovery that I

1095
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,720
Speaker 3: was supposed to have, you know, turning the nine hours

1096
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 3: turning into two years, you know, and I still got

1097
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 3: nerve residual nerve damage and you know, so but by

1098
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 3: the grace of God, you know, like I'm here, you know,

1099
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 3: and I'm able to play, and I'm able to walk around,

1100
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 3: I'm able to smile and laugh like you know, like

1101
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:27,800
Speaker 3: laying in that bed.

1102
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:29,479
Speaker 2: You can't laugh. Yeah, you can't.

1103
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 4: Any operations before any surgeries.

1104
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, like I had a I had a

1105
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 3: tibio rod surgery before.

1106
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 4: You know.

1107
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 3: It's like not to downplay it, like that was tough

1108
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:41,839
Speaker 3: to come back from too, Like.

1109
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 5: Fact, like would you look at just like that back

1110
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 5: in general, But like yours is even more serious because

1111
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 5: like you say, it's like you say, that was like career, yeah, defining.

1112
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 1: So like me and my old lady was in the

1113
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 1: bed and we were just looking at TV and I

1114
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: was just flicking the channel and I flicked the time

1115
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: we stopped the Eat sixty you know East sixty be

1116
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 1: having them good interviews, them good things, and you just

1117
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 1: came on her. And when I seen you, me and

1118
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 1: her is almost interiors like the footage that you showed

1119
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:23,280
Speaker 1: the like uh, your teammates being there say Sam, I'm sorry,

1120
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:27,360
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, don't kill mene. But just like that, that

1121
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,919
Speaker 1: that always stick out to me, that her sitting next

1122
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: to your bedside right there. And I remember seeing y'all

1123
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 1: at All Star and it was just like, man, I

1124
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,359
Speaker 1: didn't know that, And I was so tough on you

1125
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 1: because like you one of my favorite players. I love

1126
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,720
Speaker 1: how you dress outside.

1127
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 4: Of the choy.

1128
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: It was like, man, I always like always be talking

1129
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 1: about you, like yeah, see this and that. But these

1130
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,280
Speaker 1: last two years, you know, just from an outside looking

1131
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: in as a casual fan, they don't.

1132
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 4: Know what like players go through, whether you got.

1133
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: An injury or something deeper in your family or anything.

1134
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: They don't know what you're going going through. So a

1135
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 1: casual fan that'd be like, oh, she's not doing what

1136
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 1: I know she can do, and oh she's not doing this.

1137
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 1: And then when you go to the bench and not

1138
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 1: be the All Star player that you were, Like, how

1139
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: was that to just you know, keep that secret from

1140
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 1: the world and just persevere through every step of that.

1141
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 4: How was that for you?

1142
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 2: It was hard? Like it was hard, man.

1143
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 3: I I knew that telling the story prematurely would have

1144
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 3: added way too much pressure onto what I was already

1145
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:43,359
Speaker 3: dealing with, and I just did not feel comfortable at

1146
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 3: the time.

1147
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 2: Right, this is pre COVID, right.

1148
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 3: So after my surgery, the whole world stopped, you know,

1149
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 3: and so part of me was thinking and hoping like Okay,

1150
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 3: I got time, I can come back from it, and like,

1151
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 3: oh nobody got to know about it, you know. So

1152
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 3: part of it was that, And then George Floyd Black

1153
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 3: Lives Matter. I was like, this is not important to

1154
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 3: be talking about right now, to be talking about myself,

1155
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,800
Speaker 3: to be bringing any attention to me when the whole

1156
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 3: when we you know, we try, Yeah, like it's a

1157
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:17,720
Speaker 3: lot going on right now.

1158
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 2: So there were like a lot of.

1159
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 3: Things that played into me, like keeping my silence, but

1160
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 3: the biggest thing really was like until I have my triumph,

1161
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 3: you know, until I have my like I overcame this,

1162
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 3: you know now I can talk about it, right, Like

1163
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 3: this is the first interview I'm doing talking about it,

1164
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 3: you know.

1165
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 4: So it's just last what was that Friday? Yeah, so

1166
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 4: you know.

1167
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 3: This is like you know, it's like like you can read.

1168
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 5: Like to be it like everything you just said, like

1169
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:53,320
Speaker 5: being able to just going through that, like you know

1170
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, because there's a lot of people like

1171
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 5: go out there and you playing bad, like man, I

1172
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 5: ain't right, you know what I'm saying. It's the first

1173
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 5: thing somebody might say or like might get around to

1174
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 5: it for you to just you know what I'm saying,

1175
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 5: sold you through all of that, follow those different.

1176
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 4: Reasons you're saying. That's a that's a huge salute to you.

1177
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:13,720
Speaker 1: Our agent, Jeff Wesler, he represents Loneso Morning, and Loneso

1178
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 1: Morning went through like a real scure, you know what

1179
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 1: I'm saying, where they didn't think he was gonna play

1180
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 1: basketball the more the same thing as you, and it

1181
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 1: was it was deep for him and he persevered through

1182
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 1: it where he had the opportunity to not only come

1183
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 1: back and play to win a championship, just like you,

1184
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 1: Like I feel like them stories so much need to

1185
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 1: be told because like a lot of casual fans will

1186
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 1: beat us up, and like, I apologize to you because

1187
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 1: like I'm just so much of a fan in you,

1188
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: and I'm like, nah, you know what I'm saying, just

1189
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 1: looking on us, not knowing what's going on, and that's

1190
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 1: how fans get and fans don't realize. Like man, you

1191
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: get so deep and you don't know what a player's

1192
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 1: going through. You don't know what family or what they

1193
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 1: have outside that something slowed them down, you know what

1194
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: I mean. Players then played with injuries for five six years,

1195
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 1: Like yeah, yeah, I can't go left. It's hard, but

1196
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 1: I'm still stepping back.

1197
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 4: Shooting this three you know what I'm saying. And they

1198
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 4: don't know and they.

1199
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 1: Prejudge you, you know, so I definitely commend you for that.

1200
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 1: Like I said, that was a deep one for me,

1201
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 1: especially somebody that I admire and watch all the time.

1202
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 2: Right, it's tough. I mean, we.

1203
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 3: You go through something like that and you know, like

1204
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:32,919
Speaker 3: in telling it, you know, it's like one, I hope

1205
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 3: that it could provide some support and encouragement inspiration to

1206
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 3: like whoever you know may feel like they've been, you know,

1207
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 3: faced with an impossible obstacle, right like I really thought

1208
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 3: my career was over and just the state of my

1209
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 3: livelihood to be honest, like will I be able to

1210
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 3: have kids?

1211
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 2: Will I be able to play with them?

1212
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 4: You know?

1213
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 3: I got two little nieces, Like can I run around

1214
00:58:57,680 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 3: with them anymore?

1215
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 2: Like what can I do? What can I do?

1216
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 3: But also I hope it allows people to kind of

1217
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 3: check themselves, you know, and operate from a level of grace,

1218
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 3: you know, in any moment where they feel like they

1219
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 3: have the chance to judge, you know, because it's it's

1220
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 3: not for you to judge ever, you know, So that's

1221
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 3: really you know, my whole Let.

1222
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 4: Me ask you how big was your teammates?

1223
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 1: Because, like I say, one of the moments one of

1224
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 1: your teammates that I seen you with and I can

1225
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 1: tell you I have a connection that was your girl

1226
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 1: on the Scots on the Scots squad, Like, how how

1227
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 1: big was your teammates? And that the whole process of

1228
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 1: supporting when you got to the bubble when they when

1229
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 1: they kept that secret for you.

1230
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I you know, I'm super thankful for

1231
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 3: the closeness of our team at that time, because you know,

1232
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 3: it was something that we was carrying as a unit.

1233
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 3: You know, everybody asking them what's wrong with her? Like

1234
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 3: is she not the same? Like she her knee really

1235
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 3: that bad? Because time we just called it a.

1236
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 4: Knee injury, you know.

1237
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 3: And one of my teammates in particular, Gentel Lavender, she

1238
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 3: didn't come to the bubble, but she was with me

1239
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 3: every step of the way, like like you know, like

1240
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 3: she wiped my ass for me in the hospital, you

1241
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. Like she dressed me, she bathed me,

1242
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 3: clothed me, made sure I was good. So you know,

1243
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 3: she's really the one that's like even though she wasn't there,

1244
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 3: she was always checking on me, always calling me, you know,

1245
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 3: just after every game she was watching just like lifting

1246
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 3: me up and making sure I wasn't beating myself up

1247
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 3: too much.

1248
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 2: So really shout out to tell yeah.

1249
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 1: You really need that shout out to her, man, that's

1250
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 1: what you need. People don't understand these locker rooms. I

1251
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 1: was trying to explain to my son's mother that like Man,

1252
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 1: what basketball bring something in this locker room, and it'd

1253
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 1: be deeper than anything. I ain't saying that like all

1254
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 1: twelve players on the team that's gonna be your best friend,

1255
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 1: but you definitely gonna two or three year.

1256
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 4: Old be forever.

1257
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 1: And I've seen how your teammates like, Man, just to

1258
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 1: keep a secret like that, just to hold it down

1259
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 1: like that, that's a that's a beautiful.

1260
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 4: And big thing.

1261
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 1: And I thought that was just just a beautiful moment,

1262
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 1: just to see the teammates back you up and so forth.

1263
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 1: On the next year, after the bubbles, you get the

1264
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 1: opportunity to kind of just work out and I go

1265
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 1: overseas and try to really get your health. How was

1266
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 1: that process to get your health back for the next season?

1267
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 3: Man, that process was was very revealing to me, you know,

1268
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 3: to finally like work on my game and to really

1269
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 3: see like you know, no cameras, no lights, like where

1270
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 3: are you at?

1271
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 4: You know.

1272
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 2: And I spent some time out in l A And like.

1273
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 3: It was crazy because like I was at the Mamba

1274
01:01:56,800 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 3: Sports Academy and like in the summertimes, like it's super

1275
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 3: dope because like a lot of NBA dudes being there,

1276
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 3: like and so at the time I was out there,

1277
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 3: like KD was out there, Kyrie was out there, like

1278
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 3: the Hawks.

1279
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 2: Team was like it was like teams out there like

1280
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 2: coming to play pick up.

1281
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:16,479
Speaker 3: And so like every time a KD came in the gym,

1282
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 3: he had like dude rebounding a massage, she had this,

1283
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 3: this and this, and like I'm like, damn, like like oh,

1284
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 3: like you know what I'm saying. I'm out there kind

1285
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 3: of like just with my trainer, like and I'm just

1286
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 3: looking and I'm just like, damn, Like that's nice, Like

1287
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 3: that must be really nice to be able to have

1288
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 3: access access, right, And so it opened my eyes to

1289
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 3: a lot of like what I needed and also like

1290
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 3: what's lacking right in women's basketball just far as like just.

1291
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 2: Basic you know, health and treatment and shit like that.

1292
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 3: Like there was no no way I should have been

1293
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 3: out there without you know, certain things.

1294
01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that tells you the level of WNBA, because like

1295
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 1: the NBA guys got a lot of access and so forth.

1296
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 1: Farm But I feel like Jordan and Kobe was the

1297
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 1: one really doing it, but they were so mysterious and

1298
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 1: secretive about it. Lebron kind of brought it to the

1299
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 1: light that everybody know that, Like, man, I'm investing in

1300
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 1: my body, Like, yeah, I get this check, but this

1301
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 1: amount is going to the dude that's traveling with me

1302
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 1: and lie.

1303
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 3: Like I got to a point where I was like

1304
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 3: having that conversation with myself every day, like they don't

1305
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 3: pay me enough to go through this ship.

1306
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 1: I'm dead ass.

1307
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 3: Like I was really like walking a very fine line

1308
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 3: for a very long time.

1309
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 1: You know, when we play this hoop, man, you live

1310
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 1: and die for it like it's it's it's something we

1311
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 1: used to play it where we didn't get paid from it,

1312
01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 1: where we just loved it, where the business kind of

1313
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 1: mix it up where you second guess your love.

1314
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 3: But when you come into when you when you come

1315
01:03:57,240 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 3: into an obstacle that like take away your physical ability

1316
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 3: to play it, It's.

1317
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 2: Like, why am I really doing.

1318
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 4: When these kneeds went out? Man, I'm talking about it.

1319
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 4: I was in the roller coaster.

1320
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 2: It's like your whole identity is tied to the way

1321
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 2: you're able to move. It's all I know and play basketball.

1322
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 5: Especially when it's something like your back. When it's like

1323
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 5: you said, when I had my back, say I couldn't

1324
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 5: I couldn't tell my shoes. I couldn't do, not have

1325
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 5: to lay on my back.

1326
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 4: They screwed the things in his head.

1327
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 1: He had two dents in his head like Frankenstein or something.

1328
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, they had screwing them on down.

1329
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 1: You look crazy. So you know they always screw them

1330
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 1: on down. Make sure they lock them on up.

1331
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 5: But you know it is when you were there at

1332
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:42,920
Speaker 5: the Mamba Academy, did you ever get a chance to,

1333
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 5: like you said you was watching them, did you get

1334
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 5: a chance to watch KD and Kyrie go through workouts

1335
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 5: and stuff and learn from him?

1336
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1337
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 2: I was watching them every day. I was watching them

1338
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 2: play pick up.

1339
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 3: First of all, they was playing pick up and it

1340
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 3: was like they was it Kevin's world like everybody like

1341
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 3: they was playing if it was game to seven. He

1342
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 3: was scoring all seven every game. Missing this. I was like,

1343
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 3: I was like, are you right now? Like what am

1344
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 3: I looking at?

1345
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 4: Like?

1346
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 2: I just I couldn't believe it.

1347
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 3: He'll come in the gym with his slippers on, with

1348
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 3: his backpack on, the first thing he do, grab a ball,

1349
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 3: start shooting like just.

1350
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 1: Making that really really seven.

1351
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 3: Feet And in one game we watched he was shooting

1352
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 3: all like one leg like he was shooting everything off one.

1353
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:41,920
Speaker 4: Leg, stinky leg. That's yo.

1354
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 2: This dude is this dude is nuts.

1355
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 4: How was it? Like? You know, you, I know, you

1356
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 4: had the surgeon.

1357
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 1: You get to the bubble and you ain't fully but

1358
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 1: you actually get the opportunity to not go over seas

1359
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 1: and spend the whole winter coming around to the season

1360
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 1: to really like work on your body, on your game

1361
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 1: and get prepared for a season.

1362
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:04,959
Speaker 4: Like, how was that?

1363
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 2: It was? It was nice. It was challenging, but it

1364
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 2: was really nice. You know.

1365
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:12,440
Speaker 3: I was able to travel around to a few different

1366
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 3: places and work with a few different people, see some specialists,

1367
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 3: see some doctors, you know, just to kind of gauge

1368
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 3: where I was at and what I needed to do

1369
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 3: to kind of get ready for the next season. So,

1370
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 3: you know, physically, I tested my body a lot over

1371
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 3: those those next few months in hopes of just being

1372
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 3: ready for the season.

1373
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:35,360
Speaker 1: I feel like you was frustrated because, like, now that

1374
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 1: I know the whole story, it looked like you was

1375
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 1: a little frustrated by like your role, your role on

1376
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 1: the team, Like it was. It was a little frustrated

1377
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 1: because you feel like you really wanted all the way

1378
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 1: still there that in the season, but you you brought

1379
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 1: great minutes off the minus to even accept the role,

1380
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 1: to even accept that that six.

1381
01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 3: I mean, it's frustrating. I never came off the bench

1382
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 3: a day in my life exactly, you know. And although

1383
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 3: I knew where I was and I had teammates who

1384
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 3: were playing at a very very high level, you know,

1385
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 3: so I never would have wanted to like insert myself

1386
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:15,280
Speaker 3: and take away from that. But it was like when

1387
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 3: you go from like I was like untouchable pre surgery,

1388
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 3: like it was not a team I wasn't gonna be

1389
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 3: on that I wouldn't start, you know, and so trying

1390
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 3: to get back to that was like so frustrating because

1391
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 3: at a certain point in that season I hit a wall,

1392
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:34,920
Speaker 3: you know, and like mentally it was like I didn't

1393
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 3: really identify with the player.

1394
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 2: That was being presented in games.

1395
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 3: I didn't identify with her, and so that was really

1396
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 3: that was that was challenging.

1397
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 2: You know.

1398
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, mentally, it's like you physically, you recover

1399
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:54,480
Speaker 3: and you physically like I'm up walking, I can run

1400
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:57,080
Speaker 3: like this, I can that, But then it was like mentally,

1401
01:07:57,120 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 3: I just like it was like I had to collect

1402
01:07:59,920 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 3: it like a whole portion of my recovery, you know,

1403
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 3: and last year the mental peace.

1404
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:06,800
Speaker 2: Was really what stood out for me.

1405
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 4: How satisfying was it to like.

1406
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 1: To really experience that season get to the point where

1407
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:16,880
Speaker 1: y'all click, you know what I'm saying, in the playoffs

1408
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:20,680
Speaker 1: and win it. You know what I'm saying, Like it

1409
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 1: gotta be grounding. You're a part of that, you know

1410
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Part of that. I know, I wasn't y'all.

1411
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 1: You know, like bulls ain't had uparrade since Jordan's you know,

1412
01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 1: so like how was that to just get through that

1413
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:36,559
Speaker 1: and so forth on just to see your face and

1414
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:40,560
Speaker 1: them championships and how was that for you?

1415
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:44,519
Speaker 3: You can't write a better ending, you know, for the

1416
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 3: story of like the hero.

1417
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:48,759
Speaker 2: You know, there's always the moment where they get.

1418
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 3: Defeated, they get knocked down, right, and then they get

1419
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 3: back up and then they you know, slay the dragon

1420
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:54,320
Speaker 3: or whatever it is.

1421
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:54,559
Speaker 4: You know.

1422
01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 3: But to be honest, you know, my championship was one

1423
01:08:57,400 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 3: way before that, you know. But at the same time,

1424
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:05,439
Speaker 3: like hoisting that trophy, like having it materialized like that,

1425
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:08,800
Speaker 3: like I'm looking at it, you know, like what, like

1426
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:11,679
Speaker 3: you can't they don't get no better than that.

1427
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:17,559
Speaker 4: What's some of the food spots usually use it? The sure.

1428
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:20,719
Speaker 3: I mean, there's a soul food spot out there called

1429
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:23,759
Speaker 3: So and I'm gonna show them love because the owner

1430
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:26,519
Speaker 3: always showed me love. So if you in Chicago, go

1431
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 3: check out Sole. Best soul food in the city, in

1432
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 3: my opinion.

1433
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:30,800
Speaker 5: Is so.

1434
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 1: Tell us, tell us, like, you know, like, how how

1435
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:41,640
Speaker 1: was the after being a world champion and winning the championship?

1436
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:43,719
Speaker 4: Like the parade and the kick.

1437
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:47,599
Speaker 1: It like, you know, I know you'vene just been through

1438
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:50,720
Speaker 1: a lot the last two years, but you need one

1439
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:56,080
Speaker 1: day to get it all. Was the parade and the

1440
01:09:56,280 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 1: kicket with your girls and your champions after after this, Yeah,

1441
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:01,680
Speaker 1: that's that.

1442
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:03,639
Speaker 2: Was just my type of party for real.

1443
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 3: You you mean to tell me I could get drunk

1444
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:09,840
Speaker 3: in front of all these people and the cameras.

1445
01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna get.

1446
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 2: In trouble for it, Like y'all not gonna talk bad

1447
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:13,720
Speaker 2: about me.

1448
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 3: So I had a blast on stage up there, just dancing,

1449
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 3: just celebrating. And obviously after the game we went to

1450
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:23,559
Speaker 3: the you know, we went out and we had a blast.

1451
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:24,679
Speaker 2: It was it was fun.

1452
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:27,719
Speaker 4: I had me a couple of drinks that.

1453
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:30,640
Speaker 3: Night, especially you see your teammates in the club that

1454
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 3: don't never be in the club.

1455
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:43,599
Speaker 1: Right, Like, yeah, so that was dope. So you uh

1456
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:47,639
Speaker 1: to get traded. You get traded and the team really

1457
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:50,519
Speaker 1: wants you. You know, like, how did that feel after

1458
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:53,879
Speaker 1: everything that you went through for a team to trade

1459
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 1: for you?

1460
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it was It was heartbroken when I

1461
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 3: had to accept that. You know, I was going into

1462
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 3: free agency and having to explore free agency because I.

1463
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:06,519
Speaker 2: Thought I was going to be in Chicago. You know,

1464
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:08,760
Speaker 2: I was good in Chicago, you.

1465
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:13,559
Speaker 3: Know, but regardless, you know, you go into free agency

1466
01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 3: and as soon as I talked to Jim the GM

1467
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 3: at A for Phoenix, you know, he's like, we're gonna

1468
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 3: make it happen.

1469
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 2: We want you out here. There was no, well, how's

1470
01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 2: your back?

1471
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 3: We don't know if we yeah, if you're to say,

1472
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 3: you know, it was like, so to go somewhere where

1473
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:35,760
Speaker 3: the belief is strong like that, you know, that's all

1474
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 3: you could want for a player, like as a as

1475
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 3: a player. So you know, I was talking to some

1476
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 3: other teams or whatever, but you know, I just had

1477
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:46,680
Speaker 3: that feeling about being in Phoenix, being out here, you know,

1478
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:51,800
Speaker 3: playing for an organization like like Phoenix and Phoenix with

1479
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 3: the tradition and the pedigree, right, So so.

1480
01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 1: To know that you're finna go and play on the

1481
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:02,720
Speaker 1: team with Britney Grime and Dinnie and Tarassi and I

1482
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 1: get Tina Charles two and Scholar Diggings.

1483
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 4: Like like, how how is that?

1484
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 1: Like your pre order and you know your pre order stuff,

1485
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 1: and like everybody else, I do be.

1486
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 2: Pre order, but you know, on paper it's it's looking

1487
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 2: real nice.

1488
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:25,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's looking real nice. But you know, you know

1489
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 3: how it is. You got to go through.

1490
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:30,599
Speaker 2: You gotta go through, just like everybody else.

1491
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 3: So you know, I'm I'm obviously I'm confident in us

1492
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 3: and what we'll be able to accomplish with the team

1493
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:40,439
Speaker 3: that we have, and I'm really excited to have the

1494
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:43,639
Speaker 3: opportunity to play with those names that you just listed.

1495
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely need a jersey, so you know jersey

1496
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:51,800
Speaker 1: Brittany Grinder. You know, she's she's going through a tough

1497
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:55,800
Speaker 1: time in the situation that she's in. Can you speak

1498
01:12:55,840 --> 01:13:00,240
Speaker 1: a little bit about Brittany like how important she is

1499
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:03,880
Speaker 1: to the only women's sports, was just you know, just

1500
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:06,679
Speaker 1: women in general, or what she brings to the table

1501
01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:08,479
Speaker 1: and to be going through what she's going through and

1502
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:12,120
Speaker 1: trying to support her from afar that you can't really

1503
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:15,559
Speaker 1: touch or even know if she even getting your love.

1504
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's it's very unfortunate just to know

1505
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:23,439
Speaker 3: that she's over there and has been over there for

1506
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 3: so long.

1507
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:28,320
Speaker 2: You know, you're talking about somebody who is, you know, a.

1508
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:33,880
Speaker 3: Larger than life figure, you know, for for so many

1509
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:38,640
Speaker 3: different communities, you know, and just to know that you

1510
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 3: know she's.

1511
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:39,879
Speaker 2: Over there.

1512
01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 3: Is devastating, right, It's a huge blow to the league.

1513
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:49,200
Speaker 3: It's a huge blow, you know, to to her family,

1514
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 3: to you know, the community.

1515
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:55,599
Speaker 2: Like and I just I can't say it enough.

1516
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:57,400
Speaker 3: Every day I wake up and I think about her,

1517
01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 3: you know, I'm praying for and I'm hoping that every

1518
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 3: day is the day that she'll be you know, we'll

1519
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:05,559
Speaker 3: get the news that she's coming home, you know, so

1520
01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:08,439
Speaker 3: you know, until then, we got we play every game

1521
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:12,559
Speaker 3: with a heavy heart, know, and just hope that she'll

1522
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 3: be home soon.

1523
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 5: I gotta ask my question, like it seemed like it

1524
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:23,679
Speaker 5: was more appropriate probably when you was in Turkey, because

1525
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 5: it sounds you got.

1526
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 4: When you got the bad it wasn't over here. No

1527
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 4: disrespect of.

1528
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:38,519
Speaker 5: No disrespect, but like so my favorite question is when

1529
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:42,439
Speaker 5: you got the bag. I'm unsure if it was Turkey

1530
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 5: or you know, whenever you felt like, what did you

1531
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 5: do to go out there and treat yourself When you

1532
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:50,479
Speaker 5: look back on it, like, maybe I wouldn't have did

1533
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:52,600
Speaker 5: that for but it felt damn good when I did it.

1534
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:52,800
Speaker 4: Though.

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01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:56,040
Speaker 3: You know what, I got talked out of every one

1536
01:14:56,080 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 3: of those purchases, Mom and Dad, man like just I

1537
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:04,879
Speaker 3: got talked out of it. But because I was in Turkey,

1538
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:09,600
Speaker 3: I had this big white wall in my bedroom, and

1539
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:12,160
Speaker 3: you know, I looked at it and I was like, man, like,

1540
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 3: I wish I had a projector in this room. And

1541
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:21,720
Speaker 3: so because my TV in my living room was, my

1542
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 3: TV in my living room was real small, and so

1543
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 3: I went and I bought me a real nice projection

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01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:28,600
Speaker 3: right up.

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01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:30,679
Speaker 4: Shout out to Baba. That's what I got.

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01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 1: Baba's on the flow and it you got a short throw, Yeah,

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01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 1: I got that.

1548
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:37,680
Speaker 2: I got one of them now too.

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01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 5: Yeah that the projected man like no screen like look.

1550
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:50,840
Speaker 4: What video game of them? You know that? Yeah? Heart right,

1551
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:53,799
Speaker 4: smiling so hard.

1552
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 1: So you said in an interview, you feel like you

1553
01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:00,000
Speaker 1: can fly right now? You have been through so much

1554
01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:04,000
Speaker 1: and now you're back and it's a new season and

1555
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:06,719
Speaker 1: get ready to start and it's.

1556
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:08,960
Speaker 4: A new year. Do you still feel like you feel

1557
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:09,840
Speaker 4: like you're about to fly?

1558
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:14,679
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean I feel like, you know, I feel

1559
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:17,240
Speaker 3: like I know I have a calling on my life,

1560
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 3: you know, to do and to touch a lot of

1561
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:23,080
Speaker 3: people in ways that I couldn't have imagined, right, Like

1562
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:26,519
Speaker 3: you don't expect going through you know what, I just

1563
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:30,240
Speaker 3: went through the past couple of years. But I'm hoping

1564
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:34,920
Speaker 3: that I could just walk and live, you know, through God,

1565
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:38,280
Speaker 3: you know, and like just allow him to use me,

1566
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like it's not even really

1567
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:44,320
Speaker 3: up to me no more. You know, I'm kind of

1568
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:48,080
Speaker 3: just like, yeah, like you just go through.

1569
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:49,880
Speaker 2: Blessed.

1570
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:52,679
Speaker 3: Anything that happens from here on now is just extra,

1571
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:56,599
Speaker 3: you know. Like I'm already, like I said, I already

1572
01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:59,240
Speaker 3: won my championship. You know, I'm up and I'm standing,

1573
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 3: I'm on two feet, so you know, everything else is

1574
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:04,680
Speaker 3: just a surplus, all right.

1575
01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:07,760
Speaker 5: That's a wrap with the lovely diamond the shields. Thank you,

1576
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:12,760
Speaker 5: Phoenix Mercury Song. We are here, Champion Live on location.

1577
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:15,719
Speaker 5: You're champion in the desk, we out here and finished

1578
01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 5: tune in.

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01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 7: Yeah all right.

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