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Speaker 3: Now your host, Nicole Hutchison, What a.

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Speaker 4: Do Cowboys Nation?

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Speaker 5: Here in the SWBC studio.

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Speaker 2: I'm Nicole Hutchinson alongside Aisha Morrison and Brianna Aldridge. Our

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Speaker 2: very own Jess of Ours is not here today. She's

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Speaker 2: not feeling well, So I hope you are doing okay

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Speaker 2: Jess at home?

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Speaker 6: Ladies, what it?

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Speaker 4: Let's cop it a little energy. That's how she always is.

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Speaker 4: If you ain't got it, she got it for both of.

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Speaker 5: Us, all three of us.

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Speaker 7: Y'all.

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Speaker 5: How was y'all?

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Speaker 4: Super Bowl Sunday?

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Speaker 8: What happened?

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Speaker 9: A great time? Very surprised on what I was watching.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm sorry I didn't.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Eagles get the win.

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Speaker 4: He talk about the Kindred Concert. I was no, No,

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Speaker 4: I was distracted. I'm sorry, No, No, I wasn't.

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Speaker 2: Talking about this Kendrick Concert about the game.

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Speaker 8: It's sorry, sorry, I'm having trouble acknowledging if you don't

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Speaker 8: feel like I was watching the super Bowl game.

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Speaker 9: Interesting, that was the problem for me.

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Speaker 8: But facts I expected. Actually I didn't expect. If I'm

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Speaker 8: being honest, I didn't expect it.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 8: Somebody asked me earlier that day at church, was like, Hey,

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Speaker 8: who thinks gonna win Philly? They said, I said, because

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Speaker 8: it's just that they built the trenches, they were the roster.

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Speaker 6: I said Chiefs right out loud to people that asked me.

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Speaker 6: But my bets said Philly, and I am a happy

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Speaker 6: girl today, So it went in my direction.

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Speaker 4: Aren't want it to blast of the Chiefs?

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Speaker 2: And uh, it was obviously a different ballgame for Philly.

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Speaker 2: They wasn't coming in there and playing. And it kind

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Speaker 2: of goes back to what you had mentioned, is that

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Speaker 2: they did stuff in the off season.

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Speaker 4: Talk about it, and here's a long.

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Speaker 9: List of acquires they made.

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Speaker 2: Of course, they hired O c Kellen Moore, who is

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Speaker 2: now we're gonna talk to that, talk about that and a.

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Speaker 4: Few as well.

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Speaker 2: He's projected to be the new Orleans Saints head coach

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Speaker 2: they were finalizing a deal. They also hired Dick Fangio.

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Speaker 2: You call that defense completely dominate. On Sunday, you got

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Speaker 2: Sapon Barkley, CJ. Gardner, Johnson, Zach bond orren bergs Cooper

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Speaker 2: de Gene. I mean, like, the whole list goes on.

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Speaker 2: There's about one, two.

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Speaker 9: Three, four, five, six, seven, eighty. They might think a

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Speaker 9: count Sorry sorry.

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Speaker 2: About twenty offensive off season acquires from last year. Uh,

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Speaker 2: and it paid off for them, specifically in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: But when you look at both of those teams, what's

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Speaker 2: one thing that.

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Speaker 4: You feel like you wish you could take over there?

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Speaker 9: Drop over here in Dallas?

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Speaker 4: Huh?

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Speaker 9: What do you think about?

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Speaker 4: What's his name?

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Speaker 6: Uh?

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Speaker 9: Is it Howie?

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Speaker 8: His name?

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Speaker 4: Always kicking the GM for Philly? Oh okay, what did

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Speaker 4: you say?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's fine.

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Speaker 4: What y'all? Sorry?

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Speaker 9: You go the front office?

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Speaker 5: There you go, There we go.

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Speaker 4: Howie was closed? Sound like something from Austin Powers. It's

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Speaker 4: not my business anyway.

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Speaker 8: Howie roseman man like and and the way that they

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Speaker 8: team team build, the urgency that they feel to continue

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Speaker 8: to team build. Philly has been incredibly aggressive, very strategic

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Speaker 8: in what they're doing. You know, people talk about building

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Speaker 8: the trenches, building your offensive line, building your defensive line.

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Speaker 4: And they don't really you know, walk it like they

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Speaker 4: talk it.

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Speaker 8: This team gives they care enough and it honestly, once

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Speaker 8: you build your trenches to the level that they have,

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Speaker 8: it make everybody job easier. It make the running back

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Speaker 8: the receivers job easier. Like it just literally is such

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Speaker 8: a trickle down effect. And you see the game look

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Speaker 8: so easy for them. I mean they easily dominated on Sunday.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, on both sides.

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Speaker 8: It wasn't nothing fascy going on. It was just we

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Speaker 8: can win with four. We can win up front with four.

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Speaker 8: Our young secondary ain't ain't gotta do a whole bunch

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Speaker 8: of extra stuff because our defensive line is that strong.

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Speaker 8: Our offensive line is gonna move you off the ball

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Speaker 8: in such a way that by the time you get

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Speaker 8: to the third and fourth quarter, you tie. You need

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Speaker 8: a Now, yeah, they didn't live one time, insane And

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Speaker 8: it's just it's again, it's the team building to your

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Speaker 8: point in the call, it's the continuing to want to

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Speaker 8: get good. In the off season, they draft very aggressively

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Speaker 8: they take risks with their drafts.

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Speaker 4: Because a couple of them do on that roster.

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Speaker 8: I remember the character stuff from draft time and people

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Speaker 8: having questions and they took they take the risk. But

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Speaker 8: then they also attacked free agency, like we talked about

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Speaker 8: Zach Bond probably might go down as one of the

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Speaker 8: best finds of free agency and him being a special

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Speaker 8: teams player and becoming an All Pro this past year

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Speaker 8: at linebacker, and then and then you talk about you

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Speaker 8: talk about just then again they're gonna they won the championship,

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Speaker 8: you best believe they still gonna be aggressive in the

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Speaker 8: off season. Yep, right, never satisfied, right, never content right.

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Speaker 8: And that's the difference that I see. What about you

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Speaker 8: bring that's huge and kind of building building off that.

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Speaker 9: I mean, it's hard when I'm.

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Speaker 6: Looking at this game, Like I said, when I picked

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Speaker 6: the Chiefs, it's just because I wasn't gonna go against

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Speaker 6: out loud at like who's doing that. Even though going

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Speaker 6: in is very clear that the Eagles had the stronger

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Speaker 6: when things were going downhill, I was like, there's fast

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Speaker 6: I'm still gonna see what he does. But then it

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Speaker 9: And like you said, they want the trenches.

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Speaker 6: So when I look at when i'm building, if i'm

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Speaker 6: looking at my trenches and I'm a quarterback. I think

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Speaker 6: this as much as heat Dak gets, we have the

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Speaker 6: quarterback on lock. We just paid this person sixty million

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Speaker 6: dollars and proved that he's on lock again. It's going

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Speaker 6: to see how he comes off that injury. But the

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Speaker 6: trenches is what the Eagles have.

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Speaker 4: Even when we.

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Speaker 6: Played against them in the regular season, I think it

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Speaker 6: was like seventy five thirteen. They outscored seventy five to thirteen.

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Speaker 6: Right well, going on there defense thirteen points in two

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Speaker 6: in one of those games, but regardless, they handed it

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Speaker 9: It's the trenches.

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Speaker 6: And like you said, they're not afraid to go after

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Speaker 9: And the scariest thing.

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Speaker 6: If I could still to get back to your point,

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Speaker 6: what I could steal is that they have four out

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Speaker 9: D linemen they're retaining already.

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Speaker 8: At the protract ours looks a hot mess, so we're

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Speaker 8: already behind.

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Speaker 9: And I think that's the key there.

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Speaker 6: And if you go back to two years ago when

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Speaker 6: changed it and it's gonna look again different even though

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Speaker 6: they're gonna have you know, obviously, Kellen Moore's I think

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Speaker 6: they just made official like five minutes ago. I was

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Speaker 6: reading that he's headed to the Saints, and we'll get

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Speaker 6: to that game in a second as well. But both

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Speaker 6: Kellen Moore and Fangio, they both made adjustments, Yes, big adjustments,

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Speaker 6: and I think that's something we just kind of.

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Speaker 9: Repeat itself, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I like what you said about adjustments because Kellen Moore,

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Speaker 2: you talk about him being known as this pass heavy guy,

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Speaker 2: uh and the way that he went to Philly and said, Okay,

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Speaker 2: I got a running back, let's implement him. And you

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Speaker 2: also have a quarterback who can who has mobility as well.

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Speaker 2: I mean Jalen Hurts on the ground, eleven care seventy

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Speaker 2: really like what Kellen Moore did, of course in the game,

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Speaker 2: you all think Kellen Moore is.

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Speaker 9: Ready to be a head coach?

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Speaker 6: Time will tell, but I think he deserves it one

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Speaker 6: hundred percent, thirty six years old and to go out

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Speaker 6: there and not just win, but to dominate. Granted, if

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Speaker 6: I could give the game ball, I'd go to the

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Speaker 6: right fortune three turnovers two in the first half alone,

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Speaker 6: like that didn't look like Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 9: But you still got a score.

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Speaker 6: And you can't ignore the fact they put up forty

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Speaker 6: what have you. But like you said, I think a

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Speaker 6: which was crazy to me, but that was a big chatter.

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Speaker 6: Kellen Moore has this great offense because they have Sekwon Barkley,

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Speaker 6: who's having a two thousand plus whatever type of season

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Speaker 6: right well, he didn't really make too much noise, and

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Speaker 6: here the Chiefs found a way to shut him down

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Speaker 6: better than any other team that they faced all season.

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Speaker 6: I think that's huge. So for Kellen Moore to be

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Speaker 6: what else he could do and get away from how

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Speaker 6: they got to this point in the first place, I

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Speaker 6: think is a big deal. And to do it in

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Speaker 6: New Orleans where you're about to be name the head coach.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you got to give the man his flowers. Now,

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Speaker 6: is it going to be successful? Think about the KB

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Speaker 6: situation thirty five QB Dad happened to be with my Raiders.

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Speaker 6: I know what that's like to be behind the car train.

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Speaker 6: They made history in the worst way last season, putting

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Speaker 6: second first two games and then go on a seven

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Speaker 9: Cool?

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Speaker 4: Let's just keep it a thousand.

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Speaker 8: But as far as like the development of Kellen, I

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Speaker 4: And I think he really did that in this game

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Speaker 9: Really, Yeah, you believe you guys felt like that. I did.

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 9: And it could have been a bunch of things.

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Speaker 6: It could have been the cowboys not wanting to wait

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Speaker 8: But make you feel as how did you make you

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Speaker 8: So I mean, yeah, I'm really curious to like, maybe

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Speaker 8: I feel stagnant because you look at I mean just

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Speaker 4: A little bit of a drought.

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Speaker 9: Of course they're pissed.

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Speaker 6: boys he's been with from the Colts and who's followed

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Speaker 6: him Chicago and some things to be excited there, like,

446
00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,199
Speaker 6: but now I'm starting to shift more excitement to the

447
00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,679
Speaker 6: offense because, like we talked about it last season, you know,

448
00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,840
Speaker 6: we were hoping at that point Mike Zimmer would come

449
00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,480
Speaker 6: back because this defense did so much change, and now

450
00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,600
Speaker 6: it's like, dang, now they got to go into this

451
00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,160
Speaker 6: Matty Refluse and his cruise right up woo. But now

452
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,159
Speaker 6: I'm looking at the offensive side and everybody here is

453
00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,320
Speaker 6: kind of a shot caller who they did bring from college. Right,

454
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Speaker 6: The OCS O line is what they're like.

455
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Speaker 9: They're staying on business, right. It's one thing to say.

456
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Speaker 6: And no shots at Michael Carthy, but I heard him

457
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,520
Speaker 6: say multiple times the running game needs opportunity, he needs

458
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Speaker 6: more opportunities.

459
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Speaker 9: And I was like, all right, what does that really mean?

460
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Speaker 6: But like now they're like actually building and I think

461
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Speaker 6: the most excitement I got when Connor Riley, Oh my goodness,

462
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Speaker 6: and I was just like, it's kind of exciting too

463
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Speaker 6: because they're not bringing scrubs from these are not You

464
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Speaker 6: are coming to sup Yes, yes, And this to me

465
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Speaker 6: means okay, two things. One, I know Cowboys don't have

466
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Speaker 6: a lot of what is it called reputation of paying coaches,

467
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Speaker 6: So to me, unless they're really opening this check book,

468
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 6: these coaches believe that they can come here and actually

469
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Speaker 6: win under Brian Schottheimer, because mistake people, the college game.

470
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Speaker 6: They're not just gonna come to any NFL team that's

471
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,960
Speaker 6: right downhill, because why would you do that knowing other

472
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 6: opportunity are gonna come up. They're getting paid in college.

473
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Speaker 6: We've been seeing that that's not a problem. So I'm

474
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Speaker 6: kind of excited because Shotty got they're saying something in

475
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Speaker 6: Shtenheimer and what is being built here, and ooh, if.

476
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Speaker 9: We get a running back, don't play with them.

477
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Speaker 4: No, absolutely, I agree, there is a clear.

478
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Speaker 8: There's a clear decision to let's let's emphasize the run game.

479
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Speaker 4: Let's emphasize trying to get this run game going.

480
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Speaker 8: It's been a struggle for the last you know, for

481
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Speaker 8: three four years now, this run game being efficient. And

482
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Speaker 8: when you look at a guy like Clayton Adams second

483
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Speaker 8: rush yards per games with the Cardinals, seventh and epa

484
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Speaker 8: per second in rushing yards before contact, that's the big

485
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Speaker 8: thing for me. That means people getting to the second level,

486
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Speaker 8: That mean people getting o the way and you know

487
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Speaker 8: what I'm saying that Like that part makes me excited.

488
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Speaker 8: But then also too, when you look at Clayton Itams,

489
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Speaker 8: when you look at his run schemes very much so

490
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Speaker 8: like the Lions, pen and pool, they can go power,

491
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 8: they can go dual, they can go and they're marrying

492
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Speaker 8: the run to the past. And we've heard Schottenheimer and

493
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Speaker 8: those guys.

494
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Speaker 4: Talk about that. The play action game is your friend

495
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Speaker 4: your quarterback when play action is used.

496
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Speaker 8: I don't praise Saints, but when play action is used,

497
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Speaker 8: he is one of the best in the NFL. He

498
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Speaker 8: has been since his rookie year. Make it easier on

499
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Speaker 8: the quarterback. I love the thought process there with him.

500
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Speaker 8: And then you mentioned you mentioned, yeah, you mentioned Connor

501
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Speaker 8: Riley from Kansas State.

502
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Speaker 4: Obviously he believes in efficiency.

503
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Speaker 8: There's gonna be a lot of communication across this offensive

504
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Speaker 8: line I was looking at. He wants explosive plays in

505
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Speaker 8: the run game. He wants exposive plays.

506
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Speaker 4: In the run game.

507
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Speaker 8: And I think one of als, who's the other gentleman

508
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Speaker 8: that I was looking at, Steve Shimkoh from Boston College.

509
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:56,639
Speaker 8: I had the opportunity to interview Christian Mahogany, who now

510
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Speaker 8: is a starter for the Detroit Lions on that offensive line,

511
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Speaker 8: and he took Boston College's run game from one of

512
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Speaker 8: the last in the league to where they were top

513
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Speaker 8: ten or the top fifteen if I'm not mistaken, in

514
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Speaker 8: the run game. So one thing that I'm also noticing

515
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Speaker 8: to your point, Bree, is that the philosophies of run

516
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 8: game are similar through the coaches. The way that they

517
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 8: like to scheme, the way that they like to get

518
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 8: up on the ball, that they obviously the yards before contact.

519
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 8: They all have a similar thought process, and I think

520
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 8: that this is it feels well thought out when it

521
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,879
Speaker 8: comes to when you start looking at the similarities and

522
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Speaker 8: the coaching staff, specifically on the offensive side of the ball,

523
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Speaker 8: you say to yourself, Okay, so y'all they have a plan.

524
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Speaker 8: You can tell that there's a plan because a lot

525
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 8: of the lines are starting to match up.

526
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Speaker 4: And so that's what I'm excited about, is that.

527
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Speaker 8: There seems like a plan to run the ball and

528
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,439
Speaker 8: not just saying it, not just saying we're gonna do

529
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Speaker 8: it ye like no, And there's tangible evidence to see

530
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,360
Speaker 8: how these guys like to run the ball.

531
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Speaker 2: And with Connor Riley in his first season as co

532
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Speaker 2: offensive coordinator, play caller, an offensive line coach in Kansas State,

533
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 2: he helped them be to eleven eleventh in the nation

534
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 2: and Russian guards that's also something to note. But he's

535
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 2: obviously gonna be reunited with Cooper Bby, duce Vaughn the Nugget,

536
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 2: some familiar names there. How much do you feel like

537
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:19,439
Speaker 2: that does impact this offensive line and running backs like

538
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 2: duce Vaughan who have had that experience with Connor Riley.

539
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Speaker 8: Interesting with Cooper, Interesting with Cooper Bebe because you know,

540
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Speaker 8: normally when a coach comes in, he has guys that

541
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Speaker 8: are like, you know last year was Kendricks right for

542
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Speaker 8: for Zimmer like this is the guy the.

543
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Speaker 4: Extension of me.

544
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Speaker 8: What is it going to be like for Cooper Beby

545
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Speaker 8: to mightbe be and be as young as he is,

546
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Speaker 8: but be an extension of what Connor Riley is looking for,

547
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 8: something to keep an eye on on. But he also

548
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 8: understands the demand, the demand for the communication because when

549
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Speaker 8: you do a lot of the things that these offensive

550
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Speaker 8: coordinators do or these coaches do, the communication on the

551
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Speaker 8: offensive line.

552
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Speaker 9: Got to be on point.

553
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Speaker 4: If you ain't getting it, you're getting off the field

554
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 4: a part like this, This team has struggled with pre

555
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 4: snap penalties. You can't have that in this scheme.

556
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 8: You cannot have it with these when these coordinators, and

557
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 8: I don't think they're going to tolerate it.

558
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 4: Because even so when you.

559
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 8: Look at Clayton Adams and you look at when you

560
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 8: look at Steve Shimko, you look these are some of

561
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 8: the least penalized offensive lines as well in the NFL.

562
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Speaker 4: When you talk about the Cardinals.

563
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Speaker 8: Their efficiency, these coaches care about efficiency. You cannot be

564
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Speaker 8: efficiency with efficient with penalties. So I think that's something

565
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Speaker 8: that I hope that this staff gets a handle on

566
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 8: because how many times did it kill us kill the

567
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,199
Speaker 8: Cowboys in these games having good drives and then be

568
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 8: stalled by a holding, by things like that. So yeah,

569
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Speaker 8: that's one thing I'm looking forward.

570
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Speaker 6: To, And to piggyback off what you just said, I

571
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Speaker 6: think like when you pick out some of these candidates,

572
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 6: they're proven, right, it's not it's not a fluke like

573
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Speaker 6: I just had to like what did I highlight? Let's

574
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 6: see surrendered fewer than two sacks per game in each

575
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Speaker 6: of his five years on the staff. That's huge to me, right,

576
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 6: coming from Riley averaging two hundred rushing yards per game

577
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 6: for consecutive seasons, like anytime it's his consecutive it lets

578
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 6: me know they just have an All Star and they

579
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 6: just you know, took off like this is something that

580
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 6: he is made in the culture. I think that's another

581
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 6: thing like that is something else that's lacking on this team.

582
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Speaker 6: So a lot to be excited out for sure, do

583
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Speaker 6: I wonder what this means produced right fact, this is

584
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Speaker 6: year three, we're talking like maybe it's maybe nah.

585
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Speaker 4: Maybe I don't know, but you are You're right though.

586
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Speaker 8: It is like the problem with Deuced to me this

587
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 8: past few years has been how does he fit?

588
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 7: Like?

589
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 4: What is his uses?

590
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Speaker 8: Because we can be honest with the fact that there

591
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Speaker 8: is limitations.

592
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 4: I guess there with certain things.

593
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Speaker 8: He is going to commit his body for pass pro

594
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Speaker 8: even though he is you know, you know, smaller, he

595
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 8: is going to But the things that Deuce can do in.

596
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 4: The receiving game, the screen.

597
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 9: Game, he has value.

598
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 4: And obviously we I know he can run in between

599
00:27:59,520 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 4: the tackle.

600
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 8: I wonder if a familiar coming in is gonna help him.

601
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 4: This running back room is bare bones.

602
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 8: Right now, so you don't really have the luxury to

603
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 8: be like exactly and you know what you got?

604
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 6: It is sidetrack because when people ask what's the difference,

605
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,919
Speaker 6: how did the cowboys get to where egos are? The

606
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 6: egles not only aren't afraid to take a risk, but

607
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 6: they develop. They're gonna go after the person who's in

608
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 6: that rookie contract who needs a little dustin, and they develop,

609
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 6: and that's what my attention. We're talking about do especially

610
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 6: this familiarity like this is, let's be honest, this is

611
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 6: a cheap option if you can make this work, like

612
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 6: the Cowboys are all about making a cheap option work.

613
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 6: Let's developed and you have somebody who's familiar with and

614
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 6: everyone tells me about, oh, you should have saw dudes

615
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 6: back in college where he went off. Well okay, well

616
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 6: the last time he popped off, he's got that person

617
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Speaker 6: who helped him.

618
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Speaker 9: You know, do that.

619
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Speaker 2: I get the developing thing, but you're in a position

620
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 2: of where now you've got to win, Like the past

621
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 2: two seasons have not been the endings of where they

622
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 2: wanted to be the standard of this organization. So therefore,

623
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Speaker 2: I think if you talking about the running back position,

624
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 2: you obviously want to run the football.

625
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Speaker 5: R re sign ric o'daddle.

626
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Speaker 2: You know what he can do. It is a thousand

627
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 2: yard rushing season for the first time.

628
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Speaker 9: In his career.

629
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Speaker 5: I mean, why not just go out there and get

630
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Speaker 5: a veteran running back. You're obviously gonna probably have to.

631
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Speaker 9: Drive one too.

632
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 4: Probably maybe you are better.

633
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 2: You are you are gonna have to draw a tantrum

634
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 2: everyone everyone out.

635
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 9: But no, you have to drive one as well. But then.

636
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 2: You need someone that you know can come in here

637
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 2: and just it make plays Like I mean, I don't

638
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 2: know if they're gonna even possibly pick one at number twelve.

639
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean you're gonna obviously, like possibly you attack

640
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 8: free agency.

641
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 4: The competition. First of all, it's gonna get.

642
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 8: There's gonna be more bodies in here anyway when it

643
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 8: comes to camp, because you got to have the competition.

644
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 8: But again, when you talk about the explosive plays, the things,

645
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 8: and I'm looking for even whoever they do draft, I'm

646
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 8: looking for a guy that has receiving like qualities as well.

647
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 8: I do think on another note, and I'm gonna shut

648
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 8: up that Hunter Lifkey is gonna be one of their

649
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 8: favorite people with when you look at when you look

650
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 8: at Steve Shimpkoh, when you look at some of these coaches,

651
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 8: like the usage of the fullback is a real thing.

652
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 8: And but the thing is is that I think that

653
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 8: Hunter Lifkey is a fullback, but he has running back

654
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Speaker 8: qualities and I do believe he's an extension of your protection.

655
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Speaker 4: He's kind of a Swiss army knife.

656
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 8: I really we wanted to see more of him last

657
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 8: year when he got opportunities. We were happy to see him.

658
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 8: I want to I really am curious of what they

659
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Speaker 8: think of him. That's something I'm gonna keep my ears

660
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Speaker 8: out on as we get into the camps and start

661
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Speaker 8: getting into stuff. Is what do these coaches think about

662
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Speaker 8: Hunter Lipkey? Because I do think that will play a

663
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Speaker 8: role in how they attack free agency and some of

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Speaker 8: the stuff that they might decide to do. If they

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Speaker 8: don't feel like they need another fullback, then we cook

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Speaker 8: them with grease.

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Speaker 2: How is y'all think that bringing in these younger minded

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Speaker 2: coaches college in the college ranks kind of helps shape

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Speaker 2: I guess the mindset and schemes of this Brian Schotenhammer

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Speaker 2: new culture.

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Speaker 6: What's that it's needed? I would say for sure to

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Speaker 6: just keep up and what you're seeing out there.

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Speaker 10: Right.

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Speaker 9: We just talked about Calmore. He's thirty six years old.

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Speaker 6: That's like a baby when we're talking about head coaches, right,

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Speaker 6: And I just think like, unfortunately, like what you said,

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Speaker 6: they don't have time to develop.

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Speaker 9: They put themselves in position.

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Speaker 6: Where it's like if they do not go out there

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Speaker 6: and get some dogs and spend money in free agency,

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Speaker 6: that's what they're looking at. So as much as they

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Speaker 6: can stand up there and say we want to win,

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Speaker 6: we want to win and do this now, they might

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Speaker 6: be having other conversations behind the doors, like look, all right,

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Speaker 6: this is our roster, this is the money we got,

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Speaker 6: and they're going to have to do something they haven't done,

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Speaker 6: and they're gonna have to take a risk and free agency.

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Speaker 6: I know there's some huge names out there that are

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Speaker 6: people I don't even get. I did because I'm like,

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Speaker 6: we only got you know where you want to? Like

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Speaker 6: you're driving home and you want to like go get

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Speaker 6: food and your mom's like, do you got money for that?

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Speaker 9: That's how I feel right now. I want to I

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Speaker 9: want some ice cream?

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Speaker 6: Do you got ice cream money? We don't because I

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Speaker 6: want a couple. When I was looking, I was like, dang,

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Speaker 6: like Jerry, is it eleven a little over eleven in

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Speaker 6: cap space right now? Like something's gotta give.

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Speaker 4: But that is what teams do. I'm like, how is.

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Speaker 9: Everybody else figuring it out?

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Speaker 4: Actually?

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Speaker 9: I'm serious, I agree with you.

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Speaker 4: I agree with you.

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Speaker 8: I actually look forward to some younger minds coming in

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Speaker 8: here and and minds that have not been in the

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Speaker 8: NFL realm, because especially with these guys that are you know,

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Speaker 8: coordinators in college and things like that, like there's a

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Speaker 8: constant push for improvement.

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Speaker 4: There's a I do think. I think sometimes with some

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Speaker 4: of these older coaches, there's skin their schemes.

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Speaker 8: Their schemes, their scheme, and that's it and if it works,

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Speaker 8: it's proven, then people are gonna stick to it.

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Speaker 4: With some of these young guys.

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Speaker 8: They are more open to changing it up, taking some pups,

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Speaker 8: taking some opinion from their players. They understand that, you know,

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Speaker 8: they are most of them are young, and they're in

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Speaker 8: a place to where they are still learning as well.

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Speaker 8: So to me, I think that that adds value and

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Speaker 8: relatability to your locker room even at that point. And

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Speaker 8: I don't know if we talked about it, but the

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Speaker 8: wide receiver coach, Junior Adams from Oregon listen, listen, were talking.

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Speaker 4: We we now we're.

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Speaker 8: Talking a little bit because this wide receiver room has

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Speaker 8: been lackluster. Outside of a CD Lamb, he has shown

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Speaker 8: the ability to develop some of some of the better,

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Speaker 8: better wide receivers we have seen in the NFL today.

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Speaker 8: How I can't wait to hear with ceed Lamb and

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Speaker 8: some of these guys feel like having a gentleman like

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Speaker 8: He's proven, it's proven, it's his his his work, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 8: we can see his work on display through the NFL

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Speaker 8: right now.

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Speaker 4: And so I'm that's another higher that I'm just like.

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Speaker 6: Because I don't think I don't know if Cowboys fans

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Speaker 6: right exactly. It's the first person I thought about, like,

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Speaker 6: I wonder what he can do from a guy who

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Speaker 6: are you doing with Cooper Rush? You know, there's not

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Speaker 2: there were trade rumors, per Ian Rappaport and saying that

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Speaker 2: there were some internal discussions about the possibility of trading

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Speaker 2: Michael Parsons.

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Speaker 5: What y'all think about that?

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Speaker 9: I think it's sick.

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Speaker 6: Okay, I read it internal, keep it real internal, But yeah,

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Speaker 6: what is what is the cow Dallas?

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Speaker 9: What is the Dallas Cowboys without Michael Parsons.

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna get mad about it or get mad.

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Speaker 8: I just think it's foolish. I just think the idea

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Speaker 8: of it is foolish like he he is by far,

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Speaker 8: him and CD Lamb are the two gentlemen that when

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Speaker 8: an offense or defense is talking about preparing for playing.

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Speaker 4: You, they are the emphasis. It is so odd to

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Speaker 8: Cannot be a draft and developed team, the players developed,

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Speaker 8: and then you like, you know what, let's think about

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Speaker 8: let's get them somewhere else.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to pay them. I don't want to ever.

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Speaker 8: And and Micah again has been vocal about this is

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Speaker 8: obviously just the this, this is how it happens. Right

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Speaker 8: like the conversations or whatever, Michael had already said it.

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Speaker 4: He can beat you out to the punch. He said, Baby,

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Speaker 4: I want to be here. I'm trying to go nowhere else.

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Speaker 8: And as soon as we can get this better, the better.

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Speaker 8: SAT sooner we can get this done, the better, because

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Speaker 8: I want y'all to attack free agency. He's like, I

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Speaker 8: want you to bring some of these guys back if

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Speaker 8: signing me means we're gonna be able to go out

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Speaker 8: and do more like he's he's I know that Michael gets,

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Speaker 8: you know, crap for some of the stuff, but he

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Speaker 8: clearly understands. He's looking at the NFL, he's looking at

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Speaker 8: the division. He knows what they need to do to win.

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Speaker 8: It's weird to me. I hate it. It's odd to me.

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Speaker 8: It's very entitled for how people hint. To me, I

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Speaker 8: think it's entitled and the way that people handle when

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Speaker 8: players have become the stars that we want them to

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Speaker 8: be and then you fault them almost for being the

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Speaker 8: stars that you want them to be. And I honestly

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Speaker 8: think it's a tactic that takes place with ownership and

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Speaker 8: some of the big people in the league to it's

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Speaker 8: almost to.

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Speaker 4: Where the players are villainized.

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Speaker 8: And it's weird and it's odd and I hate it.

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Speaker 8: The team building don't work like that. The other teams

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Speaker 8: that are successful. You think Philly is going through that

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Speaker 8: right now? No, they pay the guys that are stars

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Speaker 8: because they make life easier for everybody else.

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Speaker 4: And that's the end of it. I don't get it.

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Speaker 4: It upsets my spirits. And he don't deserve that either.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't. It was like you said, weird behavior.

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Speaker 6: This is literally what we're kind of build around. Where

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Speaker 6: talking about Stephen Joe's talking about, you know, free agency.

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Speaker 9: They're gonna build around the roster.

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Speaker 6: Okay, that is a bargaining chip to go after somebody

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Speaker 6: else a free agency. How would you like to come

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Speaker 6: play with Michael Parsons? Michael Parsons is a name you

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Speaker 6: don't even need. He speaks for that whole position, right.

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Speaker 6: That's how you get people to come play Ceedy Lamb.

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Speaker 9: Same thing.

884
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 6: If I'm looking to go get in free agency, how

885
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 6: would you like to line up on the opposite side

886
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 6: of Ceede Lamb and take off the pressure and get

887
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 6: your We don't have no wide receiver too.

888
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 4: You don't think that.

889
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 8: You don't think that Aaron Whitecotton out of from the

890
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 8: Jets is excited about the opportunity to coach Michael Parsons.

891
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 4: You don't think that eber Flus, who is a guy

892
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 4: to your.

893
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 8: Point earlier that is not super flashy, gonna do a

894
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 8: whole bunch of blitzing. But he know this guy can

895
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 8: win one on one. He know this guy is gonna

896
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 8: draw double teams. It's gonna make his life easier as

897
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 8: a coach. Like, we gotta value what we have. We

898
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 8: already have less. You're trying to subtract as a means

899
00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 8: to what to what to draft to get more draft

900
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 8: picks and develop them and then be pissed at them

901
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 8: to again, yeah, and have to wait three years for

902
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 8: them to develop into the player that you want them

903
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,479
Speaker 8: to be. Like Nicole said earlier, and she's one hundred

904
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 8: percent correct, you have to win now and the competition

905
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 8: in your division is better, So subtracting ain't gonna make you.

906
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:18,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's gonna be I mean at the end of

907
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 6: the day that we're just talking about Michael Parsons, Like

908
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 6: there's a couple of the guys, including one who just

909
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 6: asked for a trade from his team.

910
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 9: They're all do big contracts.

911
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 6: Micah sat in the locker room and literally said like

912
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 6: he's not trying, like he wants what he deserves, but

913
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 6: he's not out here trying to hold out. He's trying

914
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 6: to show up to what he didn't do last year,

915
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 6: even though he talked about, you know, I normally don't

916
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 6: do the voluntary stuff, but I'm willing to do that

917
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 6: if this is what the team needs.

918
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 9: Do you need forty mil?

919
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 6: And then we started laughing, right because that's pretty much

920
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 6: where the market price is gonna be, just under forty mil.

921
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 6: And he's like, I don't need forty He literally said that.

922
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 6: That's probably the time I would have called him said

923
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 6: it said to do yoh, you remember when you said

924
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 6: you didn't need.

925
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 9: Forty proactive proact? You gain nothing by waiting till next season.

926
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 2: I'm sure Michael will even I'm not gonna tell y'all, listen.

927
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 4: I think he would say. I don't want him to, though,

928
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 4: I want him to make his.

929
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 6: Moodlah And I think the next best thing under Michael

930
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 6: Parsons or under him will come here for less. If

931
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 6: Michael Parsons is still here and he's got his extensions,

932
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,720
Speaker 6: so you know, Michael Parsons isn't going anywhere.

933
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 9: You know Dak is coming back healthy.

934
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 6: You know, we're invested in a run game here and

935
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 6: they're taking accountability and seeing that the commanders are doing this,

936
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 6: that the Eagles already up there and that's where they're

937
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 6: trying to get. If you just kind of lay back

938
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 6: and like you said, wait for the draft to draft.

939
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 6: If you get a first round pick, nobody knows better

940
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:46,720
Speaker 6: this organization.

941
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:47,879
Speaker 9: That is not guarantee, Honey.

942
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 4: When we talk about talent, you know, we were just

943
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 4: talking about Philly.

944
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 8: Like they won because they were more talent to y'all.

945
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,439
Speaker 8: In fact, they won because it wasn't all. I ain't

946
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 8: even gonna hold y'all y'all and do a whole bunch

947
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 8: of fancy schmancy stuff that.

948
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 4: They were just better. So you get better, guys, Like

949
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:07,760
Speaker 4: why would.

950
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 8: You not want to your defensive line, your d n room.

951
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 8: We don't know what that's gonna look like. We don't

952
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 8: know if we don't know if Tank Lawrence is returning.

953
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 8: We don't know if Marshawn Kneeland is going to come back.

954
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,240
Speaker 4: I hope he does, but we don't know if he's.

955
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 8: Gonna come back and be that rookie that we saw

956
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 8: the first few games of the season.

957
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 4: Stop playing these games.

958
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 8: Pay your stars, pay your stars, and especially to Like

959
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 8: you said, we talk about players all the time.

960
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 4: Micah is literally trying to do it.

961
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 8: The right way, the way that the way that people

962
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 8: want these players to be humble and gentle, and I'll yeah,

963
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 8: I'll take less. And he is literally conceding to what

964
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 8: people want from him at this point because he wants

965
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 8: to win games and it still ain't enough.

966
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 4: Do y'all want to win for real? And nine facts,

967
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 4: do y'all want to win for real?

968
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,760
Speaker 8: And nine stop playing with your star player, Stop playing

969
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 8: with you. That's your difference maker, Like I don't understand it,

970
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 8: And I'm gonna be ticked off if they wait forever

971
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 8: and then paying him as selfish or whatever the case.

972
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 4: May be, I'm going to be livid, especially since if.

973
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 2: They wait, you're gonna end up paying him more obviously

974
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 2: his worth and then some, and then you're gonna be

975
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 2: hit a couple of years down the road. If you

976
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 2: pay him now, you get to save money, you get

977
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 2: money on.

978
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 9: The back end. Right, why not do it?

979
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 4: Why not just get it over the situation, Just get

980
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 4: it over with and let's move forward.

981
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 8: Because That's another thing too, is that once you get

982
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 8: it over with to your point the calle, it allows

983
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 8: you to start making some of those other decisions.

984
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 4: It takes it. It allows you to look.

985
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 8: At everybody else's money and be like, all right, do

986
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,399
Speaker 8: we need to trade somebody for another pick? We need

987
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 8: to like for real, Like it's gonna set up so

988
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 8: when you go into free agency, you got your coaching

989
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 8: staff now right, you're gonna go into the drivet, go

990
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 8: in to free agency.

991
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 4: You can have a plan, have mercy please.

992
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, on that note, it's been a great

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Speaker 2: sugary Brehanna Aldre Domino Koa just and we will see

994
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