1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arm Strong 3 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: and Jetty and now he Armstrong and Yetty. 4 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 2: How you doing. We had to play those numb nut 5 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: chicks that were at the louisgi man Gioni trial. We 6 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 2: got to play those again. I want to hear myself, 7 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 2: an I already heard them once they're they're there's the astounding. 8 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: And I will remind you I don't think they're numb 9 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: nuts at all. 10 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 2: Interesting. 11 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: I think they're activists. 12 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 2: Okay, well, then maybe that fits in with or doesn't 13 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 2: fit in with what I'm about to talk about. I 14 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 2: think it's really interesting. 15 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: They're activists and numb nuts. 16 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 2: Clearly, Uh, there are numb nuts involved and a lot 17 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 2: of the bad stuff that happens in our country, in 18 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: the world, in world history. According to this there's a 19 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 2: new book out in this article about it in The 20 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 2: New York Times called Actually Democracy Dies in HR Actually 21 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 2: this is from the Washington Post, not the New York Times. 22 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 2: Actually Democracy Dies in HR, which is a pretty good 23 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 2: headline from the Washington Post, who had the sub headline 24 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 2: of Democracy Dies in Darkness. New research sheds light on 25 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 2: how mediocre employees help would be authoritarians maintain power. And 26 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 2: I found this quite fascinating. I could read this whole 27 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 2: long article, but it would take like an hour. But oh, 28 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 2: it talks about Putin and Orbon and Hungary and the 29 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 2: Iranian Revolutionary Garden, Iran and just any dictatorship you want, 30 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:44,919 Speaker 2: And of course they try to extrapolate it to any 31 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 2: burgeoning autocracy we have in the United States, that's a fascist. 32 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: Rather than have the help of just judges and political 33 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 2: enforcers and super ideal logical and you know fully bought 34 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 2: in revolutionaries or whoever in your dictatorship to actually carry 35 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 2: out the dirty work of consolidating and maintaining power, such 36 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 2: leaders rely and help from a far greater number of 37 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 2: lower and mid level people that are just very average 38 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 2: people of average intelligence. Until recently, researchers paid little attention 39 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 2: to how leaders convince and recruit ground level workers to 40 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 2: go along with their demands. I'm often asking this, like, 41 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 2: do these people believe this that are going along with 42 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 2: this at the universities or the business or the college 43 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 2: kids to a certain extent or whatever. We've always intended 44 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 2: to assume that these people cooperate because ideological extremism, fear 45 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 2: of persecution, or some combination of the two. New research, 46 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 2: drawing on an extraordinary data set from Argentina's Dirty War 47 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 2: in the seventies and eighties, which I don't know much about, 48 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 2: suggests a very different explanation. It turns out that the 49 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 2: kinds of career pressures familiar to employees everywhere, and I 50 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 2: would extrapolate this maybe to you know, just being a 51 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 2: young person out there in the world, even without the college. 52 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 2: Pressure is a desire to revolve, revive an a stalled career, 53 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 2: or obtain a minor promotion can be enough to incentivize 54 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 2: lower and mid level officials to violate professional obligations, fundamental norms, 55 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 2: and even basic morality just to try to get slightly 56 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 2: ahead in life. The people who make those decisions, or 57 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 2: research suggests, are neither extremists or victims. They're often just 58 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 2: middling workers looking for a way to get ahead. 59 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: Way I'm immediately I don't want to steal any thunder, 60 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: but I'm immediately reminded of the apparatics in the Soviet 61 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: Union or the gray men that perpetrated so many of 62 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: the horrors of the Holocaust. 63 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 2: We're about to get to that very notion. Yeah, making 64 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: a career in a dictatorship. It's a new book by 65 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 2: two German political scientists. Reads like what you would get 66 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 2: if you crossed Hannah Arent's ideas about the banality of 67 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 2: evil with a business school guide. So I went to 68 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 2: I'm aware of the name Hannah, aren't if that's how 69 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 2: you pronounce her name, But I'm not. I'm aware of 70 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 2: that book. I've never read it. But here's the book 71 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 2: that they're talking about the banality of evil. She wrote 72 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 2: a book. She died in seventy five, so this was 73 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 2: a you know, a much earlier in last century. Her 74 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 2: book was about the nineteen sixty one trial of the 75 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 2: Nazi war criminal Adolf Eichman, who is one of the 76 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 2: architects of the whole you know, killing the Jews and 77 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 2: everything final solution. Instead of finding a monstrous, sadistic mastermind, 78 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: Eric observed that Eikman was a terrifyingly ordinary, unimaginative bureaucrat. 79 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 2: He wasn't motivated by deep ideological hatred, but rather by 80 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 2: profound thoughtlessness, a complete inability to look at the world 81 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 2: from another person's perspective. She argued that great evil could 82 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 2: be committed by ordinary people who simply accept premises, follow orders, 83 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 2: conform with the system without really thinking about it, and 84 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 2: are just trying to get at man. 85 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: That's that Dostoevsky quote I've been obsessed with lately about 86 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: how you know, one can commit the foulest and most 87 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 1: villainous act without being in the least a villain. So 88 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: he gets swept up when violence becomes fashionable, literally anything 89 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 1: can be justified. 90 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 2: And the thoughtlessness of it is interesting. So this new 91 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 2: book that's out, their in depth study of Argentina's military 92 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 2: during the country's era of coups and forced disappearances, found 93 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 2: that low performers, whom they refer to as career pressured individuals, 94 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 2: filled the ranks of the secret police. That service allowed 95 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 2: them to detour around the ordinary hierarchy and jobs. They 96 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 2: didn't want to get jobs, they wanted achieving promotions and 97 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 2: career success that they couldn't have gotten otherwise. So they 98 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 2: just went along through whatever the we're not really thinking 99 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 2: much about it. You snatch somebody off the street, you know, 100 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 2: beat them with the rubber hose, whatever you got to do. 101 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 2: I'm just you know, I'm just a kind of average 102 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 2: intelligence guy trying to get along in the world. It 103 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,679 Speaker 2: turns out that would be authoritarians don't need to staff 104 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 2: the regimes with ideological true believers, offer extreme enticements or 105 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 2: imposed draconian punishments in order to make successful power grabs. 106 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 2: They just need to figure out how to target their 107 00:05:55,920 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 2: ideal labor pool that are frustrated in mediocre. Their conclusions 108 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 2: have implications for countries around the world grappling with stability, 109 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 2: including the United States, and it goes on and on 110 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 2: and on in that vein. I thought that was really 111 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 2: really interesting from looking at the government, political parties, corporations, 112 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 2: and maybe, like I said, extrapolateing it to just young 113 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 2: people in general who are just trying to get ahead, 114 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 2: not in the corporation but just socially. 115 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 1: Yeah. 116 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, well, it's like it reminds me of 117 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 2: and this fits in perfect when after the No King's 118 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 2: Day we had all those quotes from all those idiots 119 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 2: on the street. I didn't really know why they're there, 120 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 2: and I don't really have any strong opinion about anything. 121 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 2: I'm just trying to move up in the world, you know, 122 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 2: they subconsciously, I'm just trying to move up in the 123 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 2: world in my sector. So it's not in business, but 124 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 2: it's just in society. I'm just trying to move up ahead. 125 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 2: I'm kind of a non thinking nobody. I'm just going 126 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 2: along with whatever's going to get me ahead. I don't care. 127 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 2: I don't really need to know the details. 128 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: Right, which brings us right back to our discussion of 129 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: whether the activists outside the MANGIONI travel inside it for 130 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 1: a while, or morons or activists are both. The answer 131 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: is kind of sort of both in neither. Yeah, this 132 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: absolutely rings true. It also reminds me of our discussions 133 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: over and over again when I'm going on about neo 134 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: Marxists or postmodernists and how the activists know precisely what 135 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: they're doing, but the masses of college kids, like even 136 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: some of the professors, they don't understand that they're executing 137 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: those plans. They just look around them and think, this 138 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: is how I get ahead by saying these things and 139 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: doing these things. Therefore I will do them. 140 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 2: And fitting in with a book I'd read many years ago, 141 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 2: and I quote a lot about revolutions and how you 142 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 2: only really need fifteen percent of committed revolutionaries to overthrow anything. 143 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 2: Because you have enough other people that will just go 144 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 2: along with you. Well this explains the we'll just go 145 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 2: along with your crowd. They just don't think about it. 146 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 2: Which it's hard to imagine not thinking much about exterminating 147 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 2: Jews to get ahead, but clearly that's the way human 148 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 2: beings work. I mean, we can go pretty far down 149 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 2: the road of awful and it's just gonna make my 150 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 2: life a little easier and I'll get a little more 151 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 2: social cachet or make a little more money or whatever. 152 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I don't think as many people are afflicted 153 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: with a conscience as we'd like to believe. I think 154 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: a lot of people look around they think I'm powerless 155 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: to stop this. So what am I gonna do? A shrug? 156 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: Like the girl Scout thieves those two morons in southern California. 157 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: Wasn't it stole the money from the girl Scouts? Well 158 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 1: why'd you take the money? Because I want it? Because 159 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: I wanted it. It was sitting right there and they 160 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: don't need it. 161 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 2: So you know how, I always I'm always like looking 162 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 2: for the evolutionary angle on this sort of thing. Maybe 163 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 2: it's maybe we're built to this will help you get ahead, 164 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 2: which is you know, our prime objective is to stay alive, 165 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 2: pro create, and raise another generation to procreate itself. That's 166 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 2: what our brains are doing, our bodies are doing all 167 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 2: the time. And maybe so it's just okay, this will 168 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 2: help you get ahead, which will help you survive. So 169 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 2: our brains are built to block out the noise. This 170 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 2: is going to help you get ahead. Do it. Period. 171 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: Here's the real essay question, how do you manage a 172 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: society having learned this? The answers have incentives and disincentives 173 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: such that the brainless masses who will go one way 174 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: or the other, don't go the wrong way, Which is 175 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: why if you're trying to get a revolution started and say, 176 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, overthrow Western civilization or capitalism or whatever 177 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: you want to call it, you've got to change those norms. 178 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: You've got to start talking about will they commit social murder, 179 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: so it's actually acceptable to commit actual murder. The Jews 180 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: are why we lost World War One, and we're a 181 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: humiliate and now you're poor. How many lives has that cost? 182 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: So we're justified in killing them. You've got to change 183 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: people's basic moral framework to get a revolution going in 184 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: many many cases. 185 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 2: But all those lower level members of the Nazi Party 186 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 2: or the Soviet uh you know, CCCP or whatever. You know. 187 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 2: RAN's another example, as she uses in the first paragraph 188 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 2: of the article, you always wonder about their ideology, and 189 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 2: how do you get that many people they aren't ideological 190 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 2: or extreme or anything. They're just they're just trying to 191 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 2: get along and move up in the world. 192 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 1: Right, you mean to do what? 193 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 2: Okay, that's wild. Yeah, it's worth knowing it. It's worth knowing. 194 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 2: I think your question is a good one. What do 195 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 2: you do about it now that you know it? 196 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: Yeah? I can't decide if this is incredibly encouraging or 197 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: incredibly discouragible. Maybe both. 198 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 2: Right, Generally more knowledge is encouraging, but it is pretty 199 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 2: discouraging knowledge. 200 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 1: Although I am a big fan of realism, you've got 201 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: to understand the task in front of you. 202 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 2: It also explains that, you know, to get away from 203 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 2: exterminating Jews or you know, trying to whatever they're doing 204 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 2: in Iran and colding people just like you do your workplace. 205 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 2: If you ever get the because I've had this experience, 206 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 2: like you're complaining about something your corporation does and you 207 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 2: get a blank stare from people like they don't understand 208 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 2: or don't care, almost like, how do you not care 209 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 2: that we're functioning this poorly in this? Because they don't. 210 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 2: They're not ideologues about the corporation you work for. I'm 211 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 2: just trying to get ahead or really anything, yeah, or anything. 212 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 2: I'm just I'm not thinking about it. I'm just trying 213 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 2: to keep my job and move up a little bit. 214 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 2: That's all I want to do. I'm not thinking a 215 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:42,839 Speaker 2: big picture here. 216 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: Some scientist needs to come up with a scale, a 217 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: way of measuring sheepleness or anti sheepleness what you might 218 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: to call, I don't know, trying to come up with 219 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: something silly lone wolfitude or eagle tree or something, you know. 220 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: And so I would find it incredibly interesting, as you know, 221 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: whatever we are, I would find it incredibly interesting and 222 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: useful to understand. Okay, sixty one percent of people have 223 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: no real political will whatsoever. They're simply trying to survive, 224 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: and they will go in whichever direction you point them, 225 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: if it is the path of least resistance or more 226 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: immediate reward or whatever. 227 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 2: I don't know. 228 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,839 Speaker 1: So you're really only looking for you can only persuade 229 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: quote unquote X number of people with your high flying rhetoric. Right, 230 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:56,959 Speaker 1: the rest of them, you know what, both political parties 231 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: have figured out this out. The rest of them just 232 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: want you'll give me twenty dollars more than the other guy. 233 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 2: Okay, Hm, I feel like if only landed males voted 234 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 2: to help a lot landed. 235 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: Males of what rate? 236 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:10,559 Speaker 2: I was going to leave that out. 237 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would leave that out too, I don't care. Actually, 238 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: how about landed females. What if they have landed adults? 239 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 2: Landed adults basically, and you don't even need to have 240 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 2: a land just a steak. You've got a steak somehow 241 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 2: in the system. 242 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: How do we define steak? 243 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 2: I don't know, but like you're you're, you're you're taking 244 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 2: less than you were giving. Oh, makers not takers, makers 245 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 2: not takers. 246 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: There you go, Yes, any thoughts and we'd round them 247 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: up and put them in Wait a minute, I realized 248 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 1: this is. 249 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 2: Some thick, chewy stuff. Any comments on this text line? 250 00:13:50,360 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 2: Four one five five k FTC. There's your relationship with Eric? 251 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 2: Are you guys still friends? 252 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 3: Eric? 253 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: COO? Is that clear? Don't bust the trust? You bust 254 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: the trust? 255 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 2: Okay, you don't exist in my life. 256 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: You don't bust the trust. Damn straight. 257 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 2: I need I need more hard and fast rules in 258 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 2: my life. Yes, no, you you busted trust. 259 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: You don't trust the trust. It's damn right. I branded 260 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: Stephen Kluback, that's the fellow. There is America's wackiest billionaire, 261 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: maybe our wackiest person. He was Eric Swalwell's financier and roommates. 262 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: Also part of a bizarre case with this porn girl 263 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: penthouse pad who builks old rich guys and it's like 264 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: on trial for it, but he insists no, she's innocent. 265 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: She's really in love with me, and I still want 266 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: to marry her, et cetera. There's so much to this case. 267 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: This is like the new Murdoch case. Nobody dead so far. 268 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: But so this advil Levee, who's the Penthouse pet girl 269 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: in question, engaged to billionaire Stephen Klubek, him of the 270 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: tight pants and the what was he time shares or 271 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: some I can't remember what his money came from. But 272 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: she was ordered by the court to surrender her passport 273 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: and not get another one because she's such a flight risk. 274 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: She went out and got herself an Israeli passport. Somehow, 275 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: the judge gets winto this, busts her for it, and 276 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: she sprints out of the courtroom wearing designer duds in 277 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: Van Nuys, California, and runs across the courtyard in her 278 00:15:54,840 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: like platform sandals. Uh, she was. 279 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 2: Out of her don't they have bailiffs or something? I 280 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 2: guess some low level crimes like this. They're not well 281 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 2: or she or she was. 282 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: Just running away to avoid getting any any reporters asking 283 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: her questions or anything like that. Judge did not raise 284 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: bailable placed additional restrictions on Levi's movement, ordering her to 285 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: stay away from airports and the Israeli consulate and only 286 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: allowing her to leave Vala County with permission. 287 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 2: She'll never be seen again. 288 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: A visibly irritated Leviv blurted out she didn't know what 289 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: the county is, to which her attorney replied, we'll explain 290 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: it to you. When the judge asked if she understood 291 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: the order, the model replied, I understand everything you say. 292 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: I will follow. But then for some reason, she sprinted 293 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: out of the courtroom. Boy, there's some serious, multi layered 294 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: wackiness going on here. Who I was blown away? 295 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 2: Don't get involved with the crazy hotty like that. 296 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: Oh dude, dude, big old, fat rich boy thinks. No, 297 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: she doesn't. She doesn't even like you. 298 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 2: It's obvious the Armstrong and Getdy. Stop showing me near collisions, 299 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 2: collisions whatever from airports. Just stop showing them to me. 300 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm just I can't. 301 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 2: I don't need to see them. And I know statistically 302 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 2: they aren't happening more than they used to. So we 303 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 2: just have more cameras now, and you're making it seem 304 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 2: like every plane is. 305 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: Crashing everywhere all the time. Just stop brushing wings or 306 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: what happened. 307 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 2: I don't find it as interesting as you think I do. 308 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, no kidding. I flew all day Sunday and not 309 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 1: for a single second did I think about Boy. I 310 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: hope we don't whack another plane's wing on the tarmac 311 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: because that's always freaking happening. Yeah, land on a van 312 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: or something. Yeah, I find it unlikely. Oh so this 313 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: is this really has come together beautifully kind of unintentionally. 314 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: I really enjoyed our conversation of a couple of minutes ago. 315 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: If you missed it, to grab the podcast Armstrong and 316 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:09,479 Speaker 1: gettyon demand this hour. But talking about how to make 317 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: a dictatorship run. You don't need a bunch of dedicated ideologues. 318 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: You just need a bunch of half wits or kind 319 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: of sheeople or gray people who just want to get 320 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: ahead and get a promotion or not get in trouble 321 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: or whatever, so they do what you want them to do. 322 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: It it's like they have no will nor conscience. A 323 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: lot of people are like that. Apparently well at the 324 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: Sergio Mangione trial. It's actually the pre trial hearings still 325 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: going on, I believe. But the young, confused young man, who, 326 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: like so many young men, I can practically guarantee the 327 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 1: two that shot up the mosque in San Diego yesterday 328 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 1: were confused, disappointed by life, suicidal maybe, and decided to 329 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: latch onto a cause and go out in a blaze 330 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 1: of glory. Sergio Mangioni decided he was mad about healthcare, 331 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 1: even though he had not done any business with the 332 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 1: United Healthcare and thought, that's the problem with America. I'm 333 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: going to kill an executive. And the idea that he's 334 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: become a cause celeb because he's handsome is yet another 335 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 1: indictment of human beings. Don't give them too much credit. Yes, 336 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: So anyway, a fair amount of notice was given to 337 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 1: these three young ish, attractive, you know, attractively dressed chicks 338 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 1: who had city issued press credentials who came out of 339 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 1: the pre trial hearings that they were quote unquote covering 340 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: and made a number of absolutely outrageous statements to the 341 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 1: other press that was assembled. This is a human by 342 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 1: the name of Abril Rios. We'll start here. 343 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 2: His children are. 344 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 3: Better off than to learn, not like the enjoying the 345 00:19:58,520 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 3: blood money. 346 00:19:59,400 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 2: Can you. 347 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 1: This is another human by the name of Lena Wise 348 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 1: brought in miss Rios once again, I'm standing. 349 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 4: On this, Brian Hookson. 350 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 3: I don't give millions of America liked. 351 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 2: It, so they uh coming out pro murder. By the way, 352 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 2: this is the part that should be hammered by everybody 353 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 2: in media. How did they get press passes? Why did 354 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 2: they get press passes? Mom Downey's office should have to 355 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 2: answer for that. City Journal has been hammering on that 356 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 2: they're a Manhattan based news publication that maybe have heard 357 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 2: over maybe you haven't, but anyway, they're talking about how 358 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 2: they couldn't get press passes. 359 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: Why did these girls get press passes? Yeah, Chris Ruffo 360 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: does great work for City Journal, for instance. Let's do 361 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 1: a little more. This is Lena Weiss brought again. 362 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,360 Speaker 4: Millions of America suffer every single day. 363 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 2: How did the girl. 364 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 4: Because of how Neglich I have heard pulfisherance, she. 365 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 1: Dies and die. 366 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 4: So if you guys are okay with someone like Riot's 367 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 4: pass being around and not being a part of our society, 368 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 4: that says more about you as a person, because he's 369 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 4: about some preposters defending like that, or just be a 370 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 4: social murder that's a mass murder. 371 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 1: Ah, anybody familiar with revolutionary movements recognizes the notion of 372 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: here he committed social murder, mass social murder. His policies 373 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 1: that I don't like were bad and led to people's 374 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: deaths allegedly, Therefore, murdering him is justified in self defense. 375 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: Those policies created social murder. 376 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 2: And if you defend him, that tells me everything I 377 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 2: need to know about you, that you would defend a. 378 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: Murderer like that, right, and you should probably die too 379 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: because you're aiding and imbedding a social murder. One more, 380 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: this is once again miss Abel Rios. 381 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 3: She's a fule for more than's than Osama bin Laden 382 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 3: and I remember Americans celebrating Glenn Osama bin Laden was killed. 383 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 3: It's not like we don't understand heroic violence or like 384 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 3: when violence so good, there's a that's like as American 385 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 3: as American guy. 386 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: Okay, So this brings us back to our previous discussion. 387 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 1: We talked about this earlier in the show. I can't 388 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: remember what was it hour, one hour or two that 389 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 1: these ladies got their press passes from Zoran Mumdani's executive 390 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 1: director of press the Press Credentials Office, Samer Nasser, who 391 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: is a young woman, describes her as a native New Yorker, 392 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: first generation Arab American who worked at Al Jazeera. She is, 393 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: like so many of the people in Mumdani's outfit, an 394 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: Islamist clearly and again an islamiunist, as I call Mamdani. 395 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 1: She's part of the Red Green alliance, the young radical 396 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: leftists and Islamists who both want to overthrow Western civilization 397 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 1: or capitalism or whatever you want to call it. And 398 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: that's why they were given those passes, and that's why 399 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 1: they came out and promoted. Obviously, they weren't even imitating 400 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: journalists or reporters. They were radical Islamists or you know 401 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: red Green activists who came out and said he deserved 402 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: to be murdered for being a part of capitalism and 403 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: committing social murder. That's why they were there. And I 404 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: was a little frustrated with the New York Post who 405 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 1: wrote a great peace about this, concluding with these vile 406 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 1: young women, these fools. They might be violent fools, but 407 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: they're tools of the evil doers, like we're describing in 408 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: the earlier segment. 409 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 2: Well, it'll be interesting to see if as the drought 410 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 2: can continues, they'll still have press passes to get in, 411 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 2: and if they do, legitimate press should be asking about that. 412 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 2: You're giving press passes to people who are saying glad 413 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 2: the guy was murdered. Really, you're gonna keep letting them 414 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 2: go in and watch the trial? You think that's okay? 415 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 2: By the way, somebody ought ask these women. There are 416 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 2: five big healthcare companies in the same vein as United Healthcare. 417 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 2: Should the CEO of Humana signa Kaiser Permanente, Blue crossby 418 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 2: blue Shield? Should they all be murdered in their driveway 419 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 2: or walking down the street or whatever? Man or woman? 420 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: Uh? 421 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 2: And you know why, just the ceo I mean the 422 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 2: border directors and everybody who makes all the decisions probably 423 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 2: probably dozens of people you should murder in the street. 424 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 2: And then a secret A lot of people don't know 425 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 2: that I learned from Craig the healthcare genius your corporation 426 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 2: is who makes the decision most of the time. Most 427 00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 2: big companies their self they they hire a health share company, 428 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 2: but they're self insured. Did they make the decision? So 429 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 2: you have, So now you got to kill the CEOs 430 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 2: of all these individual big companies in the country, of 431 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 2: which there are hundreds or thousands, depending on how far 432 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 2: down the road you want to go. Of murdering all 433 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 2: these people who you don't like their healthcare decisions, you're 434 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 2: gonna have to murder thousands of people, is my point. 435 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 1: That's just getting started, signed Chairman Mao. 436 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and but Sha Guavera. Somebody out to ask them 437 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 2: as long as they're going to have press passes, somebody 438 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 2: should ask whoever's giving them the press passes. Yeah, and 439 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 2: then themselves these questions. 440 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: Well, and you know, it seems it seems frustratingly ridiculous 441 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: to even ask those questions because the answer should be 442 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 1: self evident. But getting back again, to our initial discussion 443 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: this hour. The masses of people don't think like that. 444 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: They don't think we'll wait a minute, all right, maybe 445 00:25:55,440 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: United Healthcare was unnecessarily restrictive or didn't live up to 446 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 1: its moral and financial obligations. Blah blah blah blah blah. 447 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: But if we start murdering people because of the alleged 448 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: sins of their corporation, as Jack you just pointed out, 449 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: there are thousands of people that are gonna be slaughtered 450 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 1: and that's not a civilization I want to live in. 451 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 1: I hate that we have to point that out we 452 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 1: as a society, not me and Jack, but you too, 453 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: you good people. But I guess we have to. 454 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 2: That one is, you know, did why did you give 455 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 2: them a press pass? Freaking Mandani's office should have to 456 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 2: answer for why they got press passes? 457 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, because we want them to promote our worldview and 458 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: your overthrowing Western civilization. 459 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 2: Well if your answer is we didn't know who they were, 460 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 2: they had a connection, blah blah blah, but they won't work. 461 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 2: We're taking away the press pass. Fine, but yeah, if 462 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 2: you're gonna if they're gonna continue to be in the courtroom. Wow, 463 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 2: that should really be hung around the Mayor of New 464 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 2: York's neck. There is zero chance that it was an 465 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 2: innocent mistake. As the person who wrote this up in 466 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 2: The New York Post points out, she has had a 467 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 2: press pass for a long time and has had friends 468 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 2: come and say, I want to cover this. 469 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: How do I get it? And she says, it's really 470 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 1: really tough, because you've got to have a major alliance 471 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,120 Speaker 1: or affiliation, i should say, and a pretty solid track 472 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: record of producing serious journalism or you don't have a chance. 473 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: And these chicks are influencers and former child actors. This 474 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: one describes herself as formerly child model, actress and influencer, 475 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 1: currently female rage encourager, abolitionist and socialist fascism resistor weaponizing 476 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 1: my master's degree. 477 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I was the lead story yesterday. I mean, 478 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 2: if it hadn't been for the horrifying shooting at the 479 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 2: mosque in San Diego, it'd absolutely have been the lead 480 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 2: story all day long for a variety reasons. A big story, 481 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 2: and it happened in New York, so lots of press 482 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 2: wanted to get in there from all around the world, 483 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 2: and these dip bessas got in. 484 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Well that was intentional. It was not anything 485 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: close to an innocent state. And one of these dipses 486 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: warned media members that they should be kissing the feet 487 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 1: of the Mangianistas, as they call themselves. 488 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 2: You got a jail for that, just having that term. 489 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 1: Oh God and mixing up beating. However, I'd like to 490 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: remind my lovely journalist friends that they might want to 491 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 1: stay in our good graces if they want to get 492 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 1: their stories about us out during the trial, so they 493 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: see themselves as part of it. Yeah, they've latched onto it. 494 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 1: They're activists, they're morons. But if they wish you dead 495 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: and some disaffected young man thinks, hey, they're right, you're dead. 496 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: You're dying on the sidewalk thinking what the hell just happened. 497 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: Don't underestimate these people because they're stupid or easily led. 498 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: That makes them more dangerous, not less. They're insane in 499 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: the brain. 500 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 2: It's horrifying that you could come out pro murder like that, 501 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 2: pro cold budd should a dad in the back because 502 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 2: he works for this company murder and have it not 503 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 2: get more attention than this. Yeah, yeah, we're in an 504 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 2: odd spot sociologically, say as a people, Yeah, whoops, we 505 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 2: will finish strong next. 506 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 5: Strong, Come on, America just still rules in a lot 507 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 5: of ways. We got Elon Musk. He was there in 508 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 5: a suit. You don't see that often that chose to 509 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 5: respect Elon Musk has for the Chinese leadership and out 510 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 5: of respect for the one child rule that was a 511 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 5: pillar of Chinese society for so long. While he was 512 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 5: in China for two days, Elon only fathered one child. 513 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 2: Very so, I was just reading through Babylon Bee headlines, 514 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 2: which I do every once in a while, often making 515 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 2: me chuckle out loud. This one made me laugh. Scientists 516 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 2: discover tea. Scientists discover tea tastes better when dumped out 517 00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 2: and replaced with coffee. Wow, I'm Jeffy. 518 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: Take that. 519 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 2: Have you watched I'm sure you have not. Have you 520 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 2: watched any marvels you see? 521 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 3: See? 522 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 2: You like saw that some of the early ones when 523 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 2: your son was young enough. Let me check the date 524 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 2: of my birth. No, I am not a child, so 525 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 2: I don't watch the Marvel movie right now. Yeah, I've 526 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 2: actually seen several of them, and I I it's highly 527 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 2: unlikely I would see any of them if I didn't 528 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 2: have a kid or kids. I'm down to one kid 529 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 2: that's interested in them anyway. I'd actually heard an adult 530 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 2: on the National Review podcast talk up the latest Marvel saying, 531 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 2: this is the first good Marvel thing in a long time. 532 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 2: The less several Marvel things have been awful, I mean 533 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 2: just awful. But this new one, the the Daredevil Born again. 534 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 2: Really liking that with my son and he's loving it. 535 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: It is. 536 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 2: It is not like other Marvel shows. First of all, 537 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 2: there's lots of like long, intricate court room drama stuff 538 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 2: that my son's loving, which is cool. 539 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: Like a streaming show as a bush to a movie. 540 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, streaming show. There are eight episodes, and then the 541 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 2: second season just came out. That's why it's kind of 542 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 2: in the news and I heard about it and started 543 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 2: watching it with eight more episodes. But it's about a 544 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 2: crime written New York City and former mob boss gets 545 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 2: elected mayor. As you know, I've I've turned straight now. 546 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 2: But everybody's like, we just want somebody that gets it 547 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 2: so it's safe to walk the streets again. And they 548 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 2: know he's willing to go over the top and does 549 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 2: go over the top with his police force. But I 550 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 2: don't care as long as there's order, which is just 551 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 2: true of human nature and has been true, always been true, 552 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 2: always will be true. If things get ugly enough, they're 553 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 2: willing to give a fair amount of leeway, which is 554 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 2: not good ultimately to doing what you got to do 555 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 2: to clean up the streets. And I just the politics 556 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 2: that of are pretty interesting. What people will vote for 557 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 2: if things get bad enough. It's you know, it's on 558 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 2: a much low level, like what we saw in San Francisco, 559 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 2: where people were too compassionate about all the drug addicts 560 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 2: on the street until to it at a certain point. 561 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 2: I don't know where you're sending these people, but they 562 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 2: got to go somewhere else. Yeah, And I don't think 563 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 2: anybody is paying an attention to where they're going. They're 564 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 2: just not here anymore in front of my business, which 565 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 2: is nice. But at some point a character becomes a 566 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 2: superb hero, as I prefer to call them. The Daredevil 567 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 2: character is interesting different than a lot of Marvel characters 568 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 2: in that he he takes out his anger on people 569 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 2: a lot like, oh, he really gets gruesome with them. 570 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: Wow. 571 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 2: He's saying he's conflicted about it, but he's had bad 572 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 2: things done to him. These people deserve to pay so 573 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 2: I'm going to use my superpower now to break your bones. Yeah. 574 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, that reminds me of my favorite graphic novel of 575 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: all time, Watchmen, which is just fabulous. 576 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 2: Really, I've heard about that very dark, very uh. It's 577 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 2: a serious piece of literature. It just has pictures. Anyway, 578 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 2: wish we could have squeezed this in a little more thoroughly. 579 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 2: California's two term Treasurer, Fiona Ma, speaking of totalitarian governments, 580 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 2: has met with high level Chinese Communist Party officials and 581 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 2: intelligence personnel dozens of times in the last several decades. 582 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: During these meetings in the US and China, the Democratic 583 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: front runner currently for twenty twenty six Lieutenant governor for California, 584 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: has introduced American lawmakers to Chinese intelligence officials, repeatedly presented 585 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 1: awards to CCP members and influence operatives. Has said during 586 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: a recent interview, we should really be more integrated. The 587 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: more that we can get along work together, I think 588 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: would create more peace in the world as well as 589 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: better economic opportunities for both countries. Has Fiona Ma got 590 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 1: a what was the name of the town? The gal 591 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: was the mayor of Arcadia Arcae. She's got a Mayor 592 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: of Arcadia. Moment coming up. Inquiring minds want to know, 593 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: Fiona hammer Sickle. 594 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 2: That his art his art of some sort. Oh why 595 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 2: because it has an effect on you that makes it art. 596 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 2: Here's your yeah for final thoughts, Joe Getty, it. 597 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: Really made me stop and think. Let's get a final 598 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 1: thought from everybody on the crew to wrap up the 599 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 1: show for the day. There is michel Angelo president buttons 600 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 1: in the control room. What are you doing in there? 601 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 1: Six seven? Work in my glutes. 602 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 2: My wife texts me said, I have to work my blutes. 603 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 2: She wants me to be around for a while. 604 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, work your glutes. It's important. We'll let 605 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: him finish his set. Jack, you got a final thought 606 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 1: for it? 607 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:46,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't remember if we did that hour two 608 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 2: or three, but that was about how a man's butt 609 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 2: determines his longevity or how healthy a life he's gonna have. 610 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,359 Speaker 2: If you have a good butt, it's gonna it's more 611 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 2: likely that you're gonna all your other joints and body 612 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 2: parts and glucose and all kinds of different stuff. 613 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 1: Is better if you have a nice fun My final 614 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 1: thought is this, sir, what's his name? AMANNGIONI trial, How 615 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: can I forget? Everybody's dressed up like the damn video 616 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 1: game character? Could be a major inflection point for this country. 617 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 1: You think, not just the trial and the outcome, but 618 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 1: the coverage of it, the commentary about it. How far 619 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 1: has the Marxist movement gone to convincing people that, yes, 620 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 1: we must murder to free ourselves from capitalism? 621 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 5: Yeah? 622 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 2: And how much will the mainstream media present it as 623 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 2: there's this side of it and on the other hand, 624 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 2: there's this side as opposed to obviously wrong. Right. 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