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Speaker 1: Wow, Hey there everybody. It is Wednesday, February two. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, where we're still eating

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Speaker 1: leftover cold Pizza's me MG Marcus Grant alongside Michael F. Florio.

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Speaker 1: Producer Justin is at the controls, and you can probably

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Speaker 1: hear a little bit scratchy in the voice. I wish

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Speaker 1: at the Super Bowl during the you know, during the game.

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Speaker 1: But actually it was a thing that started kind of

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Speaker 1: last Friday, and UH has improved progressively, but we're still

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Speaker 1: trying to get better about it. But it was officially

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Speaker 1: the off season. Florio, Welcome to the off season. I

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Speaker 1: should use air quotes, because you know, for fantasy there's

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Speaker 1: no real such thing as the off season. It's just

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Speaker 1: the season where they don't play games. So I guess

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Speaker 1: welcome to that. Yeah, it's UH. I mean, if you

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Speaker 1: look on fantasy Twitter, it's definitely not an off season,

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Speaker 1: and you're not alone with the scratchy throat markets. I

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Speaker 1: I have had it as well a little bit. I

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Speaker 1: normally do on Super Bowl weekend, so I've been blaming that.

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Speaker 1: But it's also been pretty cold, so we could blame that.

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Speaker 1: It is. It's what's been weird because it went from

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Speaker 1: it went from you know, it was like eighties six

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think all this this weird weather, these

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Speaker 1: with it as well. Um. I got a good a

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Speaker 1: good show for you, as we always try to do. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: we'll talk some Super Bowl and kind of recap that

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Speaker 1: and try to spin it forward with a fantasy perspective.

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Speaker 1: Also got a couple of interviews for you, spread them

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Speaker 1: a chance to talk to some people on Radio Row.

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Speaker 1: You did have a chance to hear the ed Or

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Speaker 1: Jeron interview on Friday just before the Super Bowl. We

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Speaker 1: s U players, Joe Burrow and Jamaar Chase ahead of

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Speaker 1: that game. But today we'll give you interviews from Yakob Johnson,

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Speaker 1: also talk to Jerry Judy. Uh, you must stick around

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Speaker 1: for that because he we asked him about Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: feel old. Jerry Judy made me feel old. So Jerry

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Speaker 1: let's start, of course with the Super Bowl game itself.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations to the Los Angeles Rams. For the second year

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Speaker 1: in a row a team wins the Super Bowl on

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Speaker 1: twenty three to twenty Uh. Some of the big storylines

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Speaker 1: from that game, Cooper Cup is named your most valuable Player,

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Speaker 1: eight catches for ninety two yards and a pair of

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Speaker 1: touchdowns on ten targets. Uh. You know, you and I

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Speaker 1: were watching the game together, Florio, and you sort of joked, like,

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Speaker 1: I think if Adams and Rodgers are together, you you

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Speaker 1: it's funny you talk about jumping in some Best Ball drafts.

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Speaker 1: I actually looked at it yesterday and I was I

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Speaker 1: But I always like to be in like one slow

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Speaker 1: but yeah, no, it's it's definitely entirely too early. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. The slow draft is probably the way

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Speaker 1: that's fine. Um is there a chance. We talked about

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Speaker 1: it'll I think it'll be very hard for him to

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Speaker 1: But I think he's the safest bet to be like

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Speaker 1: even if he regresses in every category, I still think

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Speaker 1: made a good point. Kevin O'Connell going to the vikings, right,

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Speaker 1: Speaking of Jamaar Chase, he and Ti Higgins combined for

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Speaker 1: Joe Mixon. UM. We talked about wide receivers coming off

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Speaker 1: Tee Higgins, But I'm thinking like as good as Chases

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Speaker 1: and as much as I'm gonna want a draft Chase

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Speaker 1: Higgins is maybe not as high of a ceiling, but

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Speaker 1: let's just let you listen to a little bit next

429
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Speaker 1: on the NFL Fantasy Football Show. We're here with that

430
00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,040
Speaker 1: with Jakob Johnson, now the fullback for the New England Patriots.

431
00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:16,840
Speaker 1: And you were the first player from the International Pathway

432
00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,200
Speaker 1: Program to be activated to play in an NFL game.

433
00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,280
Speaker 1: What did that mean for you? Man? It was I

434
00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,200
Speaker 1: mean at the time, I was just you know, going

435
00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,159
Speaker 1: through my week and then at the end of the

436
00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,000
Speaker 1: week they're like, hey, you you're probably gonna be up

437
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,040
Speaker 1: this weekend. So I was just trying to do my job.

438
00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,360
Speaker 1: As a cliche as that sounds, but you know, now

439
00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:35,919
Speaker 1: with a little bit of time, like looking back on

440
00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,320
Speaker 1: it has definitely been a crazy ride. And and you're

441
00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,280
Speaker 1: from Germany and football is growing there. We know we're

442
00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,840
Speaker 1: gonna have an NFL game. They're just how popular is

443
00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,720
Speaker 1: football in Germany? And is it growing? Yeah? It's it

444
00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,359
Speaker 1: has grown so much as it surprised me when I

445
00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,960
Speaker 1: went back, Right, I go back to my city. Usually

446
00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,520
Speaker 1: I can move around incognito mode. Right now people are

447
00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,880
Speaker 1: recognizing me at all my spots that I usually hang

448
00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,119
Speaker 1: out with my friends. Like it's, uh, it's definitely changed.

449
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,359
Speaker 1: You know when I when I started football in and

450
00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,400
Speaker 1: in two thousand seven, Um, you know, there were no

451
00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,159
Speaker 1: NFL broadcasts of regular season games. They didn't show any

452
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:12,960
Speaker 1: of the playoff games. The only game that was on

453
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,480
Speaker 1: TV was the Super Bowl, Right, and we had this

454
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,480
Speaker 1: deep dive on YouTube to try to find clips of

455
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,000
Speaker 1: guys playing and stuff. Nowadays, you know, they show all

456
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,639
Speaker 1: the games and regular TV. There's a huge community, the

457
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,679
Speaker 1: football bromance community that's all around football, and uh, you know,

458
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,240
Speaker 1: it just keeps growing every year. What attrack did you do?

459
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 1: American football in Germany? Most kids obviously play soccer, right,

460
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 1: And but you've seen soccer players. Soccer plays like a

461
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 1: smaller frame, shorter type guys, right, you know the little

462
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,720
Speaker 1: hair that flicks to the side or whatever. You know,

463
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:46,960
Speaker 1: I didn't have none of that. I was always like bigger,

464
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,280
Speaker 1: Like I always kind of stood out. And uh, like

465
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,120
Speaker 1: any soccer team wh I was on, they never had

466
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,400
Speaker 1: short shorts that would fit me, you know, they never

467
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,400
Speaker 1: had shirts that would fit me. Always got red cards

468
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,960
Speaker 1: for like using my body like too much or whatever.

469
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 1: So football was just the first sport that that I

470
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 1: picked up with all of that was appreciated. What was

471
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 1: the biggest adjustment coming from Germany to hear? Was it

472
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,360
Speaker 1: that the food? The culture? Like what what was it? Like? Man? Everything,

473
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,680
Speaker 1: I'll be honest, Like, you know, as Germans and Europeans

474
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,439
Speaker 1: maybe in general, we we think we know America, right

475
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 1: because we watched we watched the movies, we watched the

476
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 1: American Pie, you know, we watched the MTV, so we

477
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 1: think we know what's going on. But you know I

478
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:28,159
Speaker 1: went from Sugar Germany first to Jacksonville, Florida for like

479
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 1: six months at the high school. Uh, then the University

480
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 1: of Tennessee. You know that's completely different from Florida. That's

481
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,879
Speaker 1: like you know in the Bible Belt, Like you know,

482
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,639
Speaker 1: I was confused. Like, uh, in America, the legal drinking

483
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,399
Speaker 1: ages twenty one, you know, in Germany as sixteen, you know,

484
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 1: so I'm already like I'm already what's going on here?

485
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,399
Speaker 1: You know? And and and then to you know, going

486
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,159
Speaker 1: over to h to Boston. Now that's uh, like in

487
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,880
Speaker 1: the Northeast, where it's like everything is is very uh

488
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 1: you know, kind of old and traditional and stuff. So

489
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 1: it's been a lot of different I'm very fortunate I

490
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,959
Speaker 1: get to see America from all these different sides, but

491
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 1: it's definitely probably a lot different than I expected at first.

492
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 1: So the league announce that they're gonna be playing some

493
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,439
Speaker 1: games in Germany. What would it mean for you to

494
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 1: go back and be able to play some games in

495
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,159
Speaker 1: your home country? Uh. I want to say it's a

496
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 1: dream come true, but I'll be honest with like now,

497
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 1: I would have never dreamt of the NFL common to Germany,

498
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 1: right My main priority was getting to the NFL, you know,

499
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 1: not the other way around. So uh, it's a huge step.

500
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 1: And I think there's so many uh you know, consequences

501
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: of this that that people are not even thinking about

502
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 1: right now, Like this means so much to like the

503
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 1: the youth sport over there, right the kids are they're

504
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 1: starting football right now, or even the kids that never

505
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,160
Speaker 1: even heard of football right now that get to see it,

506
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 1: you know physically, they're in person um. All the investment

507
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 1: that's going to be made into you know, youth sports

508
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 1: over there, especially youth football. I think it'll be a

509
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 1: game changer for the use to come. Yeah, looking forward

510
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 1: to you know, a whole generation of German born football players.

511
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 1: But is it big bragging rights, like I mean anywhere

512
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 1: that you could just be like, Hey, I caught pass

513
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 1: from the goat Tom Brady. Well I haven't used that

514
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 1: one yet, you know, because you know, I'll be honest.

515
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,439
Speaker 1: You know, I'm super fortunate, you know, I got to

516
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 1: play with the as you call them, the goat or whatever.

517
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 1: But you know, there are a lot of guys out

518
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,919
Speaker 1: here that you know, won super Bowls with him, and

519
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 1: there's some some Germans out there that won super Bowls

520
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 1: with him. So I don't want to leave myself too

521
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,439
Speaker 1: far with my little catch over here. Oh man, All right,

522
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 1: So I got I got three quids, A quick quick

523
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 1: three and out for you, right, just click three random questions. Uh,

524
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,160
Speaker 1: if you could play another sport professionally, what what would

525
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 1: you play? Who? That's a big one. I think I'm

526
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 1: gonna go with like pro skateboarding, right, I think that

527
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 1: gives you the greatest quality of life of any sport

528
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,679
Speaker 1: out there. Right, you just get to hang out in

529
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 1: the park with your friends. You know what I'm saying.

530
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 1: There's really no nutritional aspect to it. There's no lifting weight.

531
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 1: It's just like, yeah, man, dude, I practiced super hard today.

532
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 1: I was at the park for six hours shooting, shooting

533
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: the stoo with my friends. You know, you should you

534
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 1: get out this beast before you get out of here.

535
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 1: The stuff? Um, what is one food you will not

536
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 1: eat under any circumstance, honestly, anything that's pork, that's not bacon. Right.

537
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 1: And this is not a this is not a religious

538
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 1: you know decision. This is simply the fact. Like as

539
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 1: a kid, I walked past like a farmer one time

540
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 1: and I saw where the pigs are in the pig containment.

541
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 1: I don't know the English word right now, I'm sorry,

542
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 1: the pig containment. It was all like dirt and doo

543
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 1: doo and they were all you know, and that smell

544
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 1: like whenever I bite into a pork chop. I just

545
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 1: smell that smell and I can't do it all right.

546
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 1: Doesn't apply to bacon though. Baking is good. Baking is good. Yeah,

547
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 1: we're good. We're baking. Is there any American food that

548
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 1: you saw that you were like, Nope, that's crazy. What

549
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: are we doing? Who came up with this? Why? Why

550
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 1: are we doing this? Throwing away my grandmother making this

551
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 1: is the worst thing? Why this is a tradition that

552
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 1: we do not need to remember? That to? What's the

553
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 1: best carsonship ever been to? The best one concerts? Concert? Oh?

554
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: That's a that's another. That's another toughing. Um. I saw

555
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 1: Kendrick Lamar. I want to say who this was? Probably

556
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,880
Speaker 1: and that was I mean it was a twenty dollar

557
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: ticket at the time in my city stuit card. This

558
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,439
Speaker 1: is right before Good Kid met City Troup dropped and

559
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 1: we didn't really know any of his songs, but somehow

560
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 1: but the end of the song he had us all

561
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: singing along. So it was really cool. I know you

562
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: are a co owner of a football team right there, Surge.

563
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,159
Speaker 1: Now that you are an owner, does it does it

564
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 1: change how you look at like kind of that player?

565
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 1: Ownership dynamic a little bit. It's funny he said that

566
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 1: because like, not only am I an owner, but like

567
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: a lot of my friends that I grew up with

568
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 1: playing on the team, you know, So like these conversations

569
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,239
Speaker 1: in the group chat at a little different now, Like

570
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,120
Speaker 1: any time somebody steps to me, I'm like, bro, you're

571
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 1: talking to the owner of the team, right, Are you

572
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 1: want to get traded? Like you know, we can make

573
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 1: this happen. Man, it's amazing. Well, ye can we appreciate

574
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 1: your time best this season, man, and I can join

575
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: the rest of your week. Appreciate thanks very much. Thanks

576
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: thanks to Yakob Johnson for his time. Um yeah, man,

577
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: it was cool kind of getting the perspective of of

578
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 1: a guy from Germany who I love the fact that

579
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 1: he basically just said, you know what, I played football

580
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: because I was really big and I was too physical

581
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: for soccer. Like that to me was kind of cool, yeah,

582
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: because I was. I remember we were talking before and

583
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 1: I was like, I wonder how he got into football

584
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 1: because like it's not very big over there, and I

585
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 1: like that he said that, like because here, no offense.

586
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 1: Fullbacks don't get a lot of love right there. He

587
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:44,199
Speaker 1: was like, um, I can't even go to my usual spots. Uh.

588
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 1: You know. The one thing I was thinking when he

589
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: was talking about that too, is I I remember, um A,

590
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: you know, obviously in the NBA, having players internationally is

591
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 1: not a big deal anymore, right, we get so many

592
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: international players coming to play here in the NBA. But

593
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 1: I do remember, you know, Dirk Nvitski saying that, like

594
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 1: what sort of got him interested in it was in

595
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: ninety two there was the Dream team that came to

596
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: Barcelona for the Olympics, and that was like, He's like,

597
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: that was the first time I think he was like

598
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: a young teenager, your preteen, and he said that was

599
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 1: the first time I saw like NB or saw basketball

600
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 1: played at that level. Is like, that's what made him

601
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: want to play. Um. So I don't know. I think

602
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 1: maybe with the with the NFL going international now playing

603
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: games in Germany, um, you know, we can get kind

604
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: of the the football version of Dirk Navitsky, uh, kind

605
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,199
Speaker 1: of like you know, flooding the NFL and creating a

606
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 1: revolution there. So that would be it would be very cool.

607
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: We spent time with the the the NFL and Esponogas

608
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: and like they were telling us how it's just spreading

609
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: like wildfire right now, and like fantasy's growing, so it's

610
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: it's awesome to just to see the game grow and

611
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: more and more eyeballs the better. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, you're yeah.

612
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: We did have lunch with Marisa Gutierre. She's been on

613
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: this show before. We'll have to get him back on

614
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: at some point. And uh, yeah, they were very excited.

615
00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: I know they talked to some players during the week too,

616
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: so that is very very super cool. Yeah, we would

617
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: like to go international. We should. Uh you know if Roger,

618
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: if you're listening, I know you listen. You download this

619
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: podcast all the time. We would love to go to Germany.

620
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: I don't care Germany, London, Mexico City, I don't care

621
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: all of them. I would love to go. So if

622
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: we can go over there and uh and and check

623
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: out some football internationally, that would be great. Um, let's

624
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: take a quick break, we'll come back. We kind of

625
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: do a look ahead based on this post season. We'll

626
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: also have our interview with Jerry Judy that's next on

627
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: the NFL Fantasy Football Show. All right, let's look ahead though.

628
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: Let's let's kind of recap the the postseason and use

629
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: that to spin forward to next season. I guess the

630
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 1: first question is how much stock do you put into

631
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: what you see in the NFL playoffs when you are

632
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: evaluating and sort of projecting ahead for the following season.

633
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 1: I don't think I put in as much as other

634
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: people do. Like I've had people be like, this guy's

635
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: gonna break out because he had a good game in

636
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: the playoffs and that's when it matters most, and I'm like,

637
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: I get that, but it's still just one game, and

638
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: it could have just been like, this is a good

639
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: matchup against his defense, let's exploit it. So to me,

640
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: I like, if we had seen a player getting more

641
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: usage in the regular season and then it carries over

642
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: into the playoffs, then I think we're onto something. But

643
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: if like a player just has one big game, I

644
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: think it can get overrated sometimes if it happens in

645
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: the playoffs. I do remember, and this was obviously years ago,

646
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: but after the uh the Joe Flacco was an eleven

647
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: touchdowns no interceptions run throughout the playoffs. Uh. You know,

648
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: I remember saying in the off season, like, hey, don't

649
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: don't read too much into this, right, Like, don't suddenly,

650
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: you know, make Joe Flacco a top three fantasy quarterback

651
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 1: because while this was a great run, it was an outlier,

652
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: like it's just not gonna happen. And I think for

653
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: the most part, people sort of agree with that, although

654
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: I did get a few like angry like what are

655
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: you talking about Joe Flacco? Is he's elite side tweets

656
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: and no, I mean, you know, Joe Flaco was a

657
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: a good quarterback. Obviously grassed him for winning a Super Bowl.

658
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: He was not a great fantasy quarterback, and that sort

659
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: of sort of played itself out. I mean, I think

660
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: there are, uh, there are some guys that had good games,

661
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: as you mentioned in the playoffs, um that I don't

662
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: think necessarily translates. I will ask you though about Cam Akers,

663
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: because he's a guy that we're all certainly excited about,

664
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: and we saw him come back late in the regular

665
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: season and I have a couple of good games. Didn't

666
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: really play great in in the playoffs and didn't how

667
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: do all the Rams couldn't run the football at all

668
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,719
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. I think they had what forty

669
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: three yards and I think twenty three carries something like that.

670
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: It just was not very great. Um, do you worry

671
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: about that? At all or is that just sort of

672
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: brushed the side based on what we expect. Maybe this

673
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: is is uh a fault in like my process, But

674
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: my thinking is I didn't expect to see cam Akers

675
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: at all this year. If you told me when Cam

676
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: Akers tore his achilles, the Rams would be in the

677
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Does Cam Akers? I'd be like no, Like

678
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: hand Akers will be lucky if he's back to start

679
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: the two season. But here he was on this playoff,

680
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: and not just in the playoffs, like he was their

681
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: lead back. He played more snaps than any of their

682
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: other backs. He had games where he was by far

683
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: their high carriers. So I don't love the production, but

684
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: I'm willing to say he's not a hundred percent healthy yet,

685
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking that just seeing him out there shows

686
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: the confidence they have in him. I still think we'll

687
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: get a much better sense of how healthy he is

688
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: when we see him in training camp and in preseason.

689
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: So as of right now, I was thinking, of Akers

690
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: had a good playoffs, he could become a first round pick. Again,

691
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: I don't think he's that, but I still think he's

692
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: in conversation to work his way up to being an

693
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: RB one Again. I you know, I'm also curious, like

694
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: what happens in that backfield, right, Like, do we see uh,

695
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: you know, Darryl Henderson back you know, how much do

696
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: we see of him? What happens with Sony Michelle, who

697
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: at times really played well for them during the year.

698
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: But I think it's clear that they want cam Akers

699
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: to be their lead running back. Um, how much time

700
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: is he going to share with other people? Uh? The

701
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: other part of it is, you know, if if next

702
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: season is like the last couple of seasons, Sean McVeigh

703
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: is not gonna play any of his guys, Like, we're

704
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: not going to necessarily see him on the fields. We're

705
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: gonna have to sort of wait and sort of guess, uh,

706
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: kind of like everybody else. But UM, you know, I'm

707
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: kind of with you that I'm not putting a lot

708
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: into what we saw in the postseason. Um that I

709
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: sort of I sort of take what we saw the

710
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: end of the regular season more as what we kind

711
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: of want. Uh. Maybe that is me being you know,

712
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: selective about about cam Akers, but I'm not. I'm not

713
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: super worried about him having a bad Super Bowl in

714
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: terms of what that means for his two Um, who

715
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: helped themselves the most in fantasy this postseason, and why

716
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: is it gave Davis. It's definitely gave Davis, I would say.

717
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: And I think if you wanted, like the other one

718
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: I was thinking of is another Bill, you could call

719
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: me a homer. But Devin Singletary, like those like Abe Davis,

720
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: he went from he was a player that we believed

721
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: in his talent, but we were like, why are they

722
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 1: not using him more? And then late in the regular

723
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: season a shift started and they started getting him more

724
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 1: uh consistently on the field, and then in the playoffs

725
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: when it mattered most, I mean four touchdowns against the Chiefs.

726
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,280
Speaker 1: He had only Cooper Cup and more touchdowns his playoffs.

727
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,280
Speaker 1: Then Gabriel Davis did, so I know some people already

728
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 1: talking this guy up as a wide receiver three with

729
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: more upside. The big thing that I don't think enough

730
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: people are talking about is outside of Stefon Diggs and

731
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: Gabriel Davis, all of the Bills receivers are free agents,

732
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: so that naturally could open up a lot more work

733
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: for Gabriel Davis. And then with Devin Singletary, it's just

734
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: like we always joked that they use multiple running backs

735
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 1: and they don't use him near the goal line and stuff,

736
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: and that went away. Like he led all running backs

737
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: and snaps played in the postseason. He was getting the

738
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: goal line work. So if those two guys are in

739
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: situations next year where the Bills don't bring in more

740
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: competition for them, I think that they saw their stock

741
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: rise the most these the end of the year ended

742
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 1: through the postseason. Yeah, I mean you're sort of right,

743
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 1: why with Gabe Davis, right, And that's one wondering why

744
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 1: they weren't using him more. But I think again, what

745
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 1: he did in the playoffs was amazing. The a f

746
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: C Championship game, despite you know, the outcome of it,

747
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 1: his performance was incredible. Um. But I think when you

748
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 1: look at what happened late in the year as well

749
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: as Emmanuel Sanders sort of, you know, started to kind

750
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: of fade to the background a little bit, Davis kind

751
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: of stepped up. And so with the opportunity potentially for

752
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 1: a lot more targets depending on what happens uh with

753
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: the rest of the wide receiver room, I think gave

754
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: Davis is in line to to kind of really step

755
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 1: forward next year. I think on top of it, though,

756
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 1: I don't think the draft price is going to be

757
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: super high. Like, I don't think you're gonna have to

758
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: spend a ton of capital on him. Yes, people will remember,

759
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 1: people be excited about him, but we're not talking about

760
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: you're drafting him, you know, as a wide receiver one,

761
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: maybe not even as a wide receiver to at least

762
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 1: nine in terms of draft capital. So I think there's

763
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: a lot of upside for Gabe Davis, and I think

764
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 1: he kind of showed us a little bit last year

765
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: or I guess this past postseason what he potentially can be.

766
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 1: On the flip side, Go ahead, Oh, I was saying

767
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: there was one more. I wanted to ask you, what

768
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: about Elijah Mitchell, because, uh, Mostart and Wilson are free agents,

769
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: and Mitchell looked really good. He did, and I think,

770
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: so here's here, I'm sort of torn, right. I think

771
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 1: he's gonna be great, and I think a lot of

772
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: people are gonna be in on him, and I totally

773
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: get that. I think in terms of helping himself, I

774
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: don't know that he necessarily helped himself in the postseason.

775
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: I think his season long performance did a lot for him. Um,

776
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: And that's not to say that he you know, vomited

777
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: on his shoes in the playoffs or anything. I just

778
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: think people will sort of look at the entire body

779
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: of work for Elijah Mitchell and that is what boosted

780
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: him up as opposed to necessarily like, hey, he had

781
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 1: a great couple of games against the Cowboys and the

782
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: Packers and the Rams or what have you. Um, But

783
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: I do think he's gonna be a guy we're talking about.

784
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: Although my fear is maybe he lands in that that

785
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: RB dead zone spot and that sort of worries me

786
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: a little bit. I feel like he's gonna be If

787
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: that happens, he'd be the one that I'm like, I'll

788
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 1: make an excess still take the chance. Yeah, yeah, I

789
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 1: can see that. I can see that because I I

790
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if we're talking about Eli Mitchell in

791
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: like the third or fourth round, which is at that

792
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: spot where people start to back away from running backs.

793
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: But maybe he is the guy who could be uh

794
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: the exception there. Um all right, So then who was

795
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 1: the biggest fantasy mirage in the playoffs and why is it?

796
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 1: Jerick McKinnon. It's exactly Jerick McKinnon. I know they went

797
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: away from Clyde Edwards a layer to use him, and

798
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: they also went away from Darryl Williams, which I don't

799
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: I didn't fully understand. Like McKinnon looks good, he looked

800
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: a party, played well, but like you had him all

801
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: years stashed away for the playoffs. It doesn't make fully

802
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 1: like and I know Williams and c h were really

803
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: banged up heading into the playoffs. For me, what Jerick

804
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 1: McKinnon did and steel and like being their lead running

805
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: back for them in the playoffs says more about their

806
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: other running backs than it does about him. So I'm

807
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,439
Speaker 1: really served. And I was very excited for Clyde Edwards

808
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 1: hilair each of his first two years in the NFL.

809
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: Heading into year three, it's the exact opposite. I'm I'm

810
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: very worried about him. Yeah, I mean, I'm I feel

811
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 1: like the Chiefs are gonna go through maybe not a

812
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: major offensive overhaul, They're gonna be some changes there, right, Um,

813
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 1: you know they've got to find another wide receiver. Uh,

814
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: they can't survive with just Kelsey and Tyreek Hill, especially

815
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: because Travis Kelsey is starting to you know, he's he's

816
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: a veteran, right, He's getting up there a little bit

817
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: in age. Um, you know, they have tried, whether it's

818
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: you know, Sammy Watkins, Nicole Hardman, Byron Pringle, DeMarcus Robins,

819
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 1: even bringing in Josh Gordon. They're trying to find a

820
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: compliment to those guys in the passing game, and they

821
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: haven't done that yet. So I think that's a priority

822
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,240
Speaker 1: of this offseason. And I think figuring out their backfield

823
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: situation is a priority, right because c H is not

824
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 1: necessarily the the RB one that I think they're looking for.

825
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: The fact that Darryl Williams got so much this year

826
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: really does say a lot about that situation. So, um,

827
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 1: you know, like they know they've got three good pieces

828
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: in Mahomes, Kelsey and Hill, but I think they also

829
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: learned this season that they need a little bit more

830
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: than just those three to kind of survive offensively, especially

831
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: with the Bills being so good, with the Bengals improving

832
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: with you know, go back through all the lists of

833
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 1: teams I talked about earlier, right, the Chargers, the Ravens

834
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: getting better, all that sort of stuff. Um, I think

835
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 1: it's gonna be kind of a transformative offseason for this

836
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 1: Kansas City offense and I'm curious to see what that

837
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: means for a lot of those guys there. Uh, speaking

838
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 1: of offenses that may be transforming this offseason, the Denver Broncos. Uh,

839
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: they are one of the many, many teams that are

840
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: trying to figure out their quarterback situation. But if one

841
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: thing we know, they got a good wide receiver room.

842
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: And we had a chance last week to sit down

843
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: with their number one wide receiver Jerry Judy and get

844
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: his thoughts a little bit on his second year in

845
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,919
Speaker 1: the NFL and maybe what the future has for him.

846
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,439
Speaker 1: Also asked him a little bit about Super Bowl halftime show,

847
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,959
Speaker 1: which still breaks my heart. Anyway. Uh, here's what Jerry

848
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: Judy had to say. We talked to him here with

849
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos receiver Jerry Judy and just coming off your

850
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: second season in the NFL, talk to us about what

851
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: was the biggest adjustment you had to make, the biggest

852
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 1: change you made between year one and year two. Yeah,

853
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: basically the biggest thing taking in from one year one

854
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: year two is really having a good a good routine.

855
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,240
Speaker 1: So you gotta have a good routine, you know, because

856
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: you gotta know what stuff you need to do to

857
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 1: make sure your body at the highest piece so you

858
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 1: can perform at the highest level each each and every week.

859
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: So that's really the biggest thing I took. And we

860
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: don't know how much firepower did Denver Broncos have on

861
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball. But now bringing in

862
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: a new head coach who has a lot of success

863
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: on that, Like, how excited are you guys? I'm very excited.

864
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: You've got a new a new coach um officer group.

865
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: You know, coach had a great coach um, you know,

866
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: So I'm very excited to see see what we do

867
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,280
Speaker 1: next year. I mean, you guys got a loaded wide

868
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 1: receiver room. I mean you know yourself. You got Courtland

869
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: when he's healthy, Tim Patrick is throwing the running backs

870
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: between Java. How how close it feels like this offense

871
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: is really close to doing some big things next year. Yeah,

872
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 1: you know, we we got a bunch of young guys

873
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: on on the on the team, so, you know, and

874
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 1: a big a bunch of great talent. So it's very

875
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 1: exciting to see everybody and see who all we got.

876
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: So I'm very excited to see what what what the

877
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 1: future holds. And I mean loaded receivering rooms is nothing

878
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 1: new to you in college a room with you with

879
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: DeVonta Smith, Jalen Waddle like how and Nagi Harris was

880
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: on that team. Like how great is it to see

881
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 1: all of these guys thriving in the NFL and it's

882
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: their friendly competition between you guys. You know, it's always great,

883
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, because a little bit competition. You know,

884
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 1: everybody want to finish on the top. Who who got

885
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 1: the most y'alls? Who a lot more cashier? You know,

886
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, we all just

887
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 1: want to see each other, to see it in life

888
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 1: and when so you know, it's always great and excited

889
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: to see the god be successful in the league. I mean,

890
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: because you know your Alabama guys were doing things right.

891
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: You got these LSU guys coming up now to right

892
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 1: between Justin and Jamar Like is there a little bit

893
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: of rivalry there too? You know? Like I said, like

894
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,760
Speaker 1: I think for all receivers, you know, everybody to complete

895
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: against all the receivers and leads, so everybody want to

896
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: be the top of the top of the top, you

897
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: feel me. But like I said, at the end of

898
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: the day, everybody knows it's just it's competitive at the

899
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: end day. But at the end of everybody want each

900
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: other to win, So that's good. And I think you're

901
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,240
Speaker 1: one of the best route running wide receivers in the NFL.

902
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: I talk you up a lot on this podcast. But

903
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 1: your your secret. I heard that there's a little secret

904
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: and it's not about route running. It's yoga. Yoga. Who

905
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 1: told your secret? I found it online. Now you can't

906
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 1: look at it and you can't believe everything you see? Aline, Well, no,

907
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 1: for you, what do you have any goals set for

908
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,720
Speaker 1: next year? Things that you would like to accomplish personally?

909
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: Next Yeah, I got some personal goal that a lot

910
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: of confidence. I ain't gonna speak too much in depth,

911
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: but by all that, but at the end of day,

912
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 1: I just want to be better than I was last

913
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: year and just go to the Super Bowl. I even

914
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: though all this is being met up fund and all that,

915
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 1: but I'd rather be that practicing right now. But that

916
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: that's basically it, though. And I guess on a little

917
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 1: bit of a serious note, your your ankle doing okay now?

918
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: Because that was And how did that affect you? Like

919
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: getting hurt in the middle of the season, is that?

920
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 1: How does that affect you like playing when you come

921
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: back and stuff actually got hurt the first game of

922
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,280
Speaker 1: the sea. Yeah, so, I mean it was it was tough.

923
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 1: I mean it was especially to send down not being

924
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: not being able to participate with your brothers and teammates

925
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So it was tough though. But

926
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: day everybody go through adversity, so it's it's how you

927
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: overcome the diversity. But once I came back, I felt

928
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 1: I felt a hums for sound. I felt good and

929
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: it's not bothered me to this day. So it looked

930
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: way worse than whatever actually was, So God bless all right.

931
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: So I got to just quick some three and out

932
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: questions for you, just some kind of fun me off

933
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,720
Speaker 1: the cuff questions. If or who is uh your favorite

934
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 1: all time athlete in any sport? All time athletes? Lebron,

935
00:43:55,440 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: James Lebron, the Goat, Yeah, I I mean plays right

936
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,919
Speaker 1: next door to you in your right spot, maybe run

937
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: into them. Who knows? What is your favorite food? Favorite

938
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 1: food probably had to be fried chicken, all right, any

939
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:19,439
Speaker 1: particular kind just fried chick? All right? Uh? And then

940
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: what is what's on repeat right now? You're on your

941
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 1: music playlist? All right? Now? I got that black closure

942
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: and um, I got gonna uh living wild all right,

943
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: I got on repeat. Anybody particularly you're interested in the

944
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: halftime show, because you know we got we got some

945
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: some heavy hitters and the halftime half Dr Dre, Snoop, Eminem, Kendrick,

946
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: Mary j that way before my time. I gonna know

947
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 1: what they're talking about the man. I probably know some songs,

948
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: but you know the vital ones. But other than that,

949
00:44:53,600 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm looking at the halftime. So like Jerry,

950
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 1: we appreciate your time, man, best of luck next year.

951
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: And hopefully we are not talking about you talking with

952
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: you here. We're talking about you in the super Bowl.

953
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me appreciate appreciate it. Yeah. So I

954
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 1: I felt like the uh, you know, the gift of

955
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: Matt Damon from like the end of Saving Private Ryan,

956
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: where he just certainly morphed into an old man, Like

957
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: that was me talking to Jerry Judy when he said

958
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: like Dre and Snoop and Eminem were like way before

959
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 1: his time, that he might not know any of the

960
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: songs like I hurt my heart man, it did. I

961
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: I saw a thing that was like, uh, you know,

962
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: millennials and everyone being like finally they're they're doing a

963
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 1: halftime show for us and not the old people anymore.

964
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: And then it was like oh wait, oh wait, and

965
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: then it clicks and I was like yeah, I mean

966
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: they were all like fifty years old or something on

967
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: that set, but it was still awesome, and like, I'm

968
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 1: still shocked that Jerry Judy doesn't know any of them

969
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,479
Speaker 1: because they're they're huge. I you know, I was thinking

970
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 1: about this right, like, so my wife has watched the

971
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: halftime show like three or four times, right, um, and

972
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: like sitting there the second time through watching it, thinking

973
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: to myself like come on man, Like he had to

974
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 1: be watching to being like, oh I know this song.

975
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: Oh I know this song too. I don't, but he

976
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 1: had to be sitting there like I know these songs,

977
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: Like maybe they're not what's he's rocking on his playlist, right,

978
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 1: Like I get it. Maybe he doesn't have the chronic

979
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,720
Speaker 1: looped on repeat on his playlist. That's fine, the albums

980
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: like thirty years old, I get it, but like for

981
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 1: hair to be like I don't think I know any

982
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 1: of these songs, like come on, man, you're killing me. Jerry,

983
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: Like there was a stretch where, like, you know, even

984
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: he was alive like when Lose Yourself was like and

985
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 1: and in the in the club like those were like

986
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: the I don't know and Kendrick is not even like

987
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: ten years like I was. I was shocked, man. But

988
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: away from that, I I really am looking forward to

989
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,720
Speaker 1: see what happens next year with the Broncos offense because

990
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 1: you do have to figure out the quarterback situation. Is

991
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: it Drew Lock, Uh you know who is again? I

992
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,760
Speaker 1: don't think Teddy Bridgewater is going to be there. Um,

993
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: you know what happens with that because they've got the

994
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: receivers right between Judy and Courtland Sutton when he's healthy,

995
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,280
Speaker 1: Tim Patrick, Uh, you know figured about j J. Hambler.

996
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: I mean, they they've got guys there. It's just a

997
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: matter of getting the somebody who can get them the

998
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 1: football right yeah. And I mean they have the run

999
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: game with with Javonte like and they have all They're

1000
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: one of the few teams I think that like if

1001
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 1: they trade for like an Aaron Rodgers, they immediately become

1002
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl contender because all of the other places

1003
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,919
Speaker 1: pieces are in place, they're just missing the most important one.

1004
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 1: And that we saw that as the year went on,

1005
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 1: they started to become more and more run heavy and

1006
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: focused on the running backs. But we know how talented

1007
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 1: those receivers are, which to me is exciting because, like

1008
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 1: Jerry Judy did, I guess for our expectations disappoint this year,

1009
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 1: so there's a chance that he could be overlooked next year,

1010
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: even if they upgrade the quarterback. Maybe you get him

1011
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 1: as a waters fever two and he he has wide

1012
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,359
Speaker 1: receiver one potential I think with the right quarterbacks. So

1013
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: still someone that I'm very excited to see what he

1014
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,919
Speaker 1: can do. Yeah, you know, I certainly have not given

1015
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: up on on Jerry Judy, but it is about the

1016
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: Broncos just kind of finding that guy, uh to get

1017
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: him the football and see what happens. But you know

1018
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: that also didn't even mention Javonte Williams and how much

1019
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: we all love him going to next season and how

1020
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,760
Speaker 1: they'll probably literal fist fights over people trying to draft

1021
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 1: Javonte Williams win where they can. So um. Anyway, next

1022
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 1: week we will also talk about I guess you should

1023
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: mention we're once a week now we're gonna be Wednesday's

1024
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: going forward. So next week we've got a couple more interviews,

1025
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 1: We've got uh Darius Slay he was really fun to

1026
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 1: talk to. And also Taylor Heineke, the starting quarterback for

1027
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 1: your Washington Commanders. Uh. We asked him about that some

1028
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,240
Speaker 1: other things as well, so stay tuned for that coming

1029
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: up next week. In the meantime, how I'm doing for

1030
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,720
Speaker 1: this edition of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast sty Happy,

1031
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: Safe and Healthy, Get VACS where a mask do good,

1032
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: Live well, and we will talk to you next week.

1033
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Speaker 1: Wow w w w P. I don't don't