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Speaker 2: From the Baptist Health Studio. This inside the Baptist Health
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Speaker 1: Please go my havans in the playoffs?
Speaker 2: What is up?
Speaker 3: Dolphins? And welcome to the Draft Time Podcast. I am
Speaker 3: your host, Travis Wingfield. And on today's show, a jam
Speaker 3: packed episode of fun. When we're gonna talk to Dolphins
Speaker 3: offensive tackle Zach Seeler. I'm gonna welcome in Kyle Krabs
Speaker 3: and we'll sandwich the week fifteen NFL picks between those
Speaker 3: things from the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health
Speaker 3: Training Complex.
Speaker 2: This is the Draft Time Podcast. Hey Da, what's up, guys?
Speaker 3: And welcome into the Baptist Health Studios for another episode
Speaker 3: of Dolphins HQ slash Drive Time.
Speaker 2: My guest today, No no, no? Then Sacks Seilers what I
Speaker 2: call him? But Zach? What's up?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 2: How are you doing today?
Speaker 4: Good? Hey?
Speaker 2: You guys doing not too bad? Man? So my first
Speaker 2: question is Week fourteen.
Speaker 3: Right, you've played a lot of snaps every year, really
Speaker 3: up to this point of your career, you play was
Speaker 3: it eighty percent of the snaps? Pretty much every single game.
Speaker 3: What's that process like for you to go through a
Speaker 3: week and get ready to play that workload every single
Speaker 3: week at that position where it's so demanded.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it starts as soon as that last
Speaker 4: games over. It starts right away. I mean, actually this
Speaker 4: year we're fortunately we got cold Plunge in the house,
Speaker 4: so we hit that every day as much as I
Speaker 4: can hot tub and then just really kind of standing
Speaker 4: on my what is underlooked I think, and we can
Speaker 4: overlook nutrition. A lot of people will kind of go
Speaker 4: with boots or this or that, all these different gadgets,
Speaker 4: and sometimes it's as simple as just hey, sweets can
Speaker 4: cause inflammation, stuff can cause like water and just eating
Speaker 4: healthy and that's my biggest thing that's to focus on
Speaker 4: during the weeks.
Speaker 2: So my nighttime ice cream is not doing me a favor.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what though. That might be my weakness too.
Speaker 4: Adding to chocolate chip cookies just too good. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: So the cold Plunch couldn't fit in the RV back
Speaker 2: in the day that I'm guessing.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, I don't think I got some inflatable zone.
Speaker 3: Now, yeah, you might be able to make that work.
Speaker 3: So office, big win over the New York Jets. You
Speaker 3: guys get some some late game really all three phase.
Speaker 3: The defense pushes the Jets back for that field goal Malik,
Speaker 3: the big kick return two, and the offense goes on
Speaker 3: the field. What was that like for you guys in
Speaker 3: a situation where you kind of had to have that
Speaker 3: game to make all those big plays take us in
Speaker 3: the kind of feeling of the team after that big win.
Speaker 4: Man, it was great to be able to go through
Speaker 4: those highs and lows to the entire game and then
Speaker 4: to come at the end of the game with that
Speaker 4: kind of momentum. I'm really starting with saying on that
Speaker 4: punt we had from Jake Bailey and just just go
Speaker 4: out there and just stop them right there, and then
Speaker 4: the defense to go out and get the three and
Speaker 4: out or whatever for one first down, and then the
Speaker 4: offense to go drive the field. It was just awesome
Speaker 4: to have that kind of just all three phases firing
Speaker 4: all cylinders at the end of the game and ready
Speaker 4: to roll that. We just got to make sure we
Speaker 4: harness that and just emulate that every week from here
Speaker 4: on out.
Speaker 3: What was your message to the guys on that drive,
Speaker 3: because you get the you know, they have the big
Speaker 3: completion Blazaard that gets them into field goal range. Then
Speaker 3: you go TfL from Benito, you have the big sack,
Speaker 3: and then Kendall makes the play where they get Adams
Speaker 3: out of bounce, which I feelsn't got a bounce.
Speaker 2: We probably have a chance twenty seconds off the clock
Speaker 2: correct at least.
Speaker 3: Right What was the chat in that huddle before those plays,
Speaker 3: because that's a spot where teams could like, you know, what,
Speaker 3: was us, We're gonna lose another tight game.
Speaker 2: You guys stepped up and made plays right there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's it's it's I mean, I talk
Speaker 4: them with a walk. It was literally, it's, hey, look
Speaker 4: we need three plays. We just need to make three plays.
Speaker 4: They're in field goal range. We either try to knock
Speaker 4: them out of it by getting some TFLs and get
Speaker 4: some negative plays, or we can get this clock stopped.
Speaker 4: And that's what we made sure we did, and we're
Speaker 4: thankful we were able to make those plays and do that.
Speaker 4: And even then the game wasn't over. I mean then
Speaker 4: you had to go out there and do the kickoff
Speaker 4: and then the offense had to go drive the field.
Speaker 4: So it was just one third part of the the
Speaker 4: finish of that game to will to take it to overtime.
Speaker 3: Have you guys gotten to the point now where it's
Speaker 3: like two has the ball weight you kind of feel
Speaker 3: like we're in good hands right here.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's been great, man. It's just seeing that
Speaker 4: offense click and how they're rolling, the technicality between him
Speaker 4: and or just I guess the precision and are more
Speaker 4: sos I'm looking forward him, the receivers, O line run
Speaker 4: everybody Johnny and those It's just everyone's just clicking like
Speaker 4: that at the end of the game. Is just awesome to.
Speaker 3: See that touchdown and two point conversion had to be
Speaker 3: so tied, like it had to be perfectly timed up,
Speaker 3: and they both were big plays in that game. So
Speaker 3: I mentioned the sack that was your sixteenth of the
Speaker 3: last two years, six this year, ten last year. Did
Speaker 3: you know that you have the second most sacks among
Speaker 3: defensive tackles in the leagues in the beginning of last year.
Speaker 4: I heard that this morning. I did not as of
Speaker 4: last night or until I heard that this morning, And
Speaker 4: I think it just honestly just a huge blessing God
Speaker 4: being to gift me with be able to stay healthy.
Speaker 4: I mean, we all know it's a huge part of
Speaker 4: this game, and be able to be out there and
Speaker 4: make those plays, it's just an awesome experience. Able to
Speaker 4: do that for myself and the team and Bill make
Speaker 4: those big plays in those last few minute drives and
Speaker 4: really taken close out the game.
Speaker 3: It seems like whether maybe I'm on social media too much.
Speaker 3: Mike wuld say that I am, But I always see like, oh,
Speaker 3: Zack Sealer so underrated. It's like he has the second
Speaker 3: most sacks, a monk like Chris Jones is behind you
Speaker 3: in the stat Like the guy that everyone says is
Speaker 3: the best defensive tackle in football has less sacks than
Speaker 3: Zach Sealer. So I always see this comment wry about
Speaker 3: how you're the most underrated player in the league, and
Speaker 3: I was curious, do you hear that? Have you heard
Speaker 3: that from obviously not friends and family, but have you
Speaker 3: heard it from just the discourse, And what's your kind
Speaker 3: of take on that.
Speaker 4: Over the years, I've heard it, and honestly, early on
Speaker 4: it was a chip on my shoulder. I'm like, you
Speaker 4: know what, good, Okay, I can make that work and
Speaker 4: I still love to have that there, and I still
Speaker 4: love to think, Okay, hey, I still haven't done I
Speaker 4: still have improved, and that's what I kind of helped
Speaker 4: motivate myself, besides my name, besides doing it for the
Speaker 4: family and doing it for the Dolphins. But honestly, i'd
Speaker 4: love to think that now I'm kind of making that
Speaker 4: statement where it's like, hey, look, it's not like that anymore.
Speaker 4: And I know I'm a serious competitor in the league
Speaker 4: and I can go out there and make those impactful
Speaker 4: plays at the most meaningful moments.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're scoring playoff touchdowns. You're running over the Titans
Speaker 3: quarterback on the goal line last year after a pick
Speaker 3: like it's pretty hard to go too the radar when
Speaker 3: you make that many splash plays. Speaking of splash players,
Speaker 3: you play alongside of a guy who's done it for
Speaker 3: sixteen seventeen years now in koalas Campbell, and he mentions
Speaker 3: you all the time you talk about him and how
Speaker 3: much you guys have helped each other. How did that
Speaker 3: click so quickly for guys that got together in the
Speaker 3: first year and all of a sudden, you guys play
Speaker 3: off each.
Speaker 2: Other so well.
Speaker 4: It's honestly, especially when they're playing in there like that,
Speaker 4: it's it's a relationship. I mean, not to make it weird,
Speaker 4: but like it's, hey man, how do you see the game?
Speaker 4: It's taking that extra time, that extra tape and like
Speaker 4: what are you thinking here? And then I'm like, this
Speaker 4: is how I see it. I want to be able
Speaker 4: to see it from your lens. That's something and Christian
Speaker 4: had going four years in a row. Was hey, really
Speaker 4: three years? At first you were kind of just figuring
Speaker 4: things out ourselves, but once we kind of got that
Speaker 4: rhythm going, it was like, Okay, this is how I
Speaker 4: know he's gonna play it. I need to play it
Speaker 4: like this now without talking, without that unspoken word out there.
Speaker 4: And that's what kalayis and I with him being such
Speaker 4: a veteran of me being more on that veteran side
Speaker 4: of things nowadays, is being able to get that going
Speaker 4: asap and not taking a year or two and be
Speaker 4: able to make that happen right now.
Speaker 2: So you guys were able to build that within the
Speaker 2: first season together.
Speaker 3: Like, so you is that you said, it's not a
Speaker 3: spoken bond, like you kind of just feel off of
Speaker 3: each other.
Speaker 4: During the game, so you know, it's a it's a
Speaker 4: ton of talking and sitting down and watching tape and
Speaker 4: that Okay, hey they're doing this here. I think I'm
Speaker 4: gonna do this. I'll probably play it like this. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I can do this to help you out there or
Speaker 4: help work off you here. But then when you're out there,
Speaker 4: you're not sitting there talking like, hey, if this comes here,
Speaker 4: you've already talked those talks and you already know what's
Speaker 4: going to happen, and you can be proactive.
Speaker 2: It seems to really show up in the pass rush games.
Speaker 2: You I call the stunts.
Speaker 3: You guys, ron Like, you got so much production off
Speaker 3: those twists and those those pickstons, right, that's a pretty
Speaker 3: big part of it too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we love doing that, and I think it helps
Speaker 4: us up frontward. It makes a cleaner makes it cleaner
Speaker 4: for us as rushers, and we can play off each
Speaker 4: other very well. And having guys that are unselfless, because
Speaker 4: you know, sometimes you're just a sacrificial lamb in those
Speaker 4: games and sometimes you're the one that comes free. So
Speaker 4: it's just how the chips fall.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's fun to watch the way you guys work
Speaker 3: together and under coach Clark of course, the one that
Speaker 3: kind of puts all together. You know, he's been here
Speaker 3: since I got here, so he's kind of one of
Speaker 3: my guys.
Speaker 2: And you as well.
Speaker 3: Just tell us a little bit about coach Clark. What's
Speaker 3: something maybe we don't know about him in terms of
Speaker 3: how he leads and motivates. And I know he's a
Speaker 3: little bit loud. You can hear h much training camp
Speaker 3: in the practices, but yeah, tell us about coach Clark
Speaker 3: a little bit.
Speaker 4: Became man, He's an amazing coach. He's really helped step
Speaker 4: my game up over the years. And I'll tell anyone
Speaker 4: coming in here. I tell all those guys you can
Speaker 4: ask the new guys out here. A few weeks ago.
Speaker 4: I'm like, look, he's gonna make you mad what he does.
Speaker 4: He's gonna find what makes you mad. He's know what
Speaker 4: to push that button, and he's gonna push it just
Speaker 4: to make you more mad, to get you, to motivate you.
Speaker 4: And when he's doing that, I'm like, it's like, hey,
Speaker 4: look his technique. He knows what he's teaching, he knows
Speaker 4: what he's doing. He's so almost overcoached to a point
Speaker 4: where like you basically were not practicing to practice, you're
Speaker 4: practicing until you can't do it wrong. And that's something
Speaker 4: we really focus on every day with all of our
Speaker 4: individual drills, with all our reps, and and he focuses
Speaker 4: on and we don't. We don't ever fall fall back
Speaker 4: or relent. It's like, hey, look like today, that's just
Speaker 4: slow day. Let's take it. He's a not like we're
Speaker 4: gonna get after it. Make sure we're doing this right.
Speaker 3: So he must, he must really kind of fall back
Speaker 3: on you to be the conduit for the rest of
Speaker 3: the room because you convey that message to the players, like, look,
Speaker 3: he's doing this for your best interest.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely, he knows that. He knows like, look, if
Speaker 4: you don't have your players on your side, they're not
Speaker 4: gonna they're not gonna do as the coaches are saying,
Speaker 4: and they're not going to do this. So it's a
Speaker 4: two way street, and it's it's it's working with him
Speaker 4: and us working together to make those practices meaningful.
Speaker 3: What's the mindset here coming up for a big game
Speaker 3: and Houston got a road trip here ahead, a chance
Speaker 3: to get back to five hundred for the first time
Speaker 3: since Week two. What's your the teams team's mindset going
Speaker 3: into this game?
Speaker 4: Man it's one more game. It's one more game. It's playoffs.
Speaker 4: For us, it's it's go out there, study the tape,
Speaker 4: do extra get the extra body work, the clean eating,
Speaker 4: all that stuff we kind of talked about before, and
Speaker 4: the extra time in the tape room to really take it.
Speaker 4: These are guys that we don't play often. Man. Well,
Speaker 4: I guess we have the last couple of years, but
Speaker 4: they're not typically on the schedule. And to be able
Speaker 4: to take it to these guys and to adjust to
Speaker 4: how they play the game and how they how we
Speaker 4: can play and play them at best.
Speaker 3: Looking forward to it should be a fun one. Two
Speaker 3: more questions here for you real quick. First year as
Speaker 3: a father playing in the league. How has that changed
Speaker 3: your approach to football and life? Everything changes?
Speaker 4: Ye, it does. Man, It's been such a blessing. He
Speaker 4: is just as the little terror is the best way possible. Man.
Speaker 4: I know, but you know, I've I started waking up
Speaker 4: earlier to actually do the plunge and stuff in the mornings,
Speaker 4: and I just had to do that that much earlier now.
Speaker 4: But it's kind of cool with the time we come
Speaker 4: in and able to he wakes up at like six
Speaker 4: point thirty on them dot. So it's really special that
Speaker 4: I can go in there. I'll wake him up, I'll
Speaker 4: get him out of his crib, you know'll change him,
Speaker 4: kind of play with him about ten minutes before coming in,
Speaker 4: and it's just such a rejuvenating feeling, Like this just
Speaker 4: shows you's like, hey, this is why I'm doing this,
Speaker 4: like for him, for my family and everything really had
Speaker 4: those moments with him were special. So it's been it's
Speaker 4: been awesome.
Speaker 3: It's the stress reducers play with your kids. Yeah, it
Speaker 3: takes with all the stress of life. Everything is just
Speaker 3: good after that, absolutely right. It's great to hear one
Speaker 3: more thing for you right here. We just had my
Speaker 3: cause my CLEAs this past week. Sealer's Safe Haven was
Speaker 3: the organization that you represented. Obviously your namesake there, tell
Speaker 3: us about that little bit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it's uh, my wife and I started about
Speaker 4: two years ago, three years ago when we first kind
Speaker 4: of brought into in the light, and our biggest focus
Speaker 4: is really trying to get kids outdoors. I think a
Speaker 4: lot of times now we get so stuck inside, still
Speaker 4: stuck on our phone, so stuck in all these different things,
Speaker 4: and I mean, man, we were meant to be outside
Speaker 4: so I think just getting kids outdoors and trying to
Speaker 4: spark an interest with somebody where maybe they didn't have
Speaker 4: that opportunity. Now, So we go outside, We go see
Speaker 4: animals or birds, trees, whatever, go hiking, just enjoy God's nature.
Speaker 4: I mean, how he built this earth is just it's
Speaker 4: a really big passion of ours. So that's what the
Speaker 4: Foundation focus on, is getting kids outdoors. We did some
Speaker 4: stuff with the seminoles last year. We're doing some stuff
Speaker 4: in Missouri now where my wife's from, and hopefully we
Speaker 4: take some to Michigan and Tennessee as well, where we
Speaker 4: just kind of keep spreading out and just really just
Speaker 4: focus on getting another generation outside.
Speaker 3: Oh man, I love that. My rule as a kid
Speaker 3: was the street light comes on, you have to go inside.
Speaker 3: So I was outside all day after school, every single day.
Speaker 1: I love to hear that.
Speaker 3: Zach great stuff, Zacxi their Dolphins defensive tackle six sacks
Speaker 3: this year, sixteen sacks the last two years at second
Speaker 3: the National Football League among defensive tackles.
Speaker 2: Zachie Theer, appreciate your.
Speaker 4: Time, Thank you, ck you, I appreciate it.
Speaker 3: He really is the man nicest guy you can possibly imagine.
Speaker 3: Let's go ahead and take our first break right there.
Speaker 3: Come back on the other side, do the week fifteen picks,
Speaker 3: and we'll finish it out with Kyle Crabs and Segment
Speaker 3: three Drive Time Podcast your host Travis Wingfield, brought to
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Speaker 3: League for your Miami Dolphins are going to have to
Speaker 3: find a victory and they could possibly get some huge,
Speaker 3: huge help this week weekend. Things are far from over again.
Speaker 3: If the Dolphins find their way to four and oh,
Speaker 3: they will find their way to the postseason most likely.
Speaker 3: In fact, I would guarantee it. What was that Men's
Speaker 3: warehouse commercial? You gotta like the way you look, I
Speaker 3: guarantee it.
Speaker 4: You're gonna like the way you look? I guarantee it.
Speaker 3: All right, So let's go ahead and make our Week
Speaker 3: fifteen picks ten and three and Week fourteen back on
Speaker 3: the winning side of things. I also had a miscalculation
Speaker 3: on my numbers. I had given myself three additional losses
Speaker 3: compared to what I actually had, And that is why
Speaker 3: I don't do live math on the air, because I
Speaker 3: had to go back over my notepad that has all
Speaker 3: my picks all season long for the last like five years,
Speaker 3: and find out where the error was. It was back
Speaker 3: in like week nine. Got that fixed. The record is
Speaker 3: one forty nine and fifty nine. There are, let's see,
Speaker 3: two hundred and eight games in the bag. We have
Speaker 3: sixty four games left to go. It's a seventy one
Speaker 3: point six percent win percentage.
Speaker 2: Cue the music.
Speaker 3: We picked the Rams over the Niners on Thursday night.
Speaker 2: Did that game win? We don't know.
Speaker 3: We'll find out last night. I guess you guys already
Speaker 3: heard me. Take the Texans over the Dolphins. I just
Speaker 3: have to see it before I believe it. In a
Speaker 3: big game, in a big spot, the Chiefs over the Browns.
Speaker 3: The Chiefs are gonna get picked off at some point.
Speaker 3: It could be this week. If it's Jamis Winston, you
Speaker 3: know good Jamis, they will do it. If it's bad Jamis,
Speaker 3: it'll be absolutely blown up in the Chiefs favor there.
Speaker 2: I'll take the Bengals over the Titans.
Speaker 3: Although the Bengals against the Cowboys did not inspire confidence
Speaker 3: in my prediction they would run the table when they
Speaker 3: were four and seven. Was stupid because they looked like
Speaker 3: crap against the Cowboys after getting ran roughshot on the
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Dealers. A're gonna win this one though, over the
Speaker 3: punchless Titans. I'll take the Commanders, excuse me, over the
Speaker 3: Saints when they go back home to Jayden Daniel's stomping
Speaker 3: grounds or last year stomping grounds at LSU.
Speaker 2: I'll take the Ravens over the Giants.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 2: These are some runaway games, aren't they.
Speaker 3: I'll take the Cowboys over the Panthers, even though I'm
Speaker 3: pretty sure that's gonna be a popular pick for the
Speaker 3: Panthers there. But just because the Panthers have come close
Speaker 3: doesn't mean they know how to win yet. And Dallas,
Speaker 3: as bad as they are, I think can fluster Bryce
Speaker 3: Young and get a victory in that pointless game that
Speaker 3: doesn't matter at all in the NFL landscape. I'll take
Speaker 3: the Jets over the Jags. Just give me a couple
Speaker 3: of Jets wins here in the next couple of weeks
Speaker 3: to make that draft pick fall down a little bit,
Speaker 3: and then, yeah, I kind of hope they do remove
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers from the lineup in that Week eighteen game
Speaker 3: if it matters for us. Otherwise, I couldn't care less.
Speaker 3: I'll take the Colt over the Broncos. I'm gonna pick
Speaker 3: Indianapolis here because I think that their game translates better
Speaker 3: into poor weather. In fact, why don't we go ahead
Speaker 3: and do what I like to do on the air
Speaker 3: and go live weather report Denver on the weather app.
Speaker 3: Is it going to be snowy? I mean, Richardson's going
Speaker 3: to be scattershot either way. It's not going to be snowy,
Speaker 3: but it's going to be very cold down in the twenties.
Speaker 3: And actually, man, Denver weather's so weird. It has a
Speaker 3: high of fifty four that day and a low of
Speaker 3: twenty eight. I know that the low means nighttime temperature,
Speaker 3: so just going to be cold, no precipitation there. But
Speaker 3: I still like Anthony Richard sim in those elements to
Speaker 3: be a better player than bow Knicks, who I still
Speaker 3: nix is better than I thought he was gonna be.
Speaker 3: But I think you've seen his ceiling and I think
Speaker 3: he's gonna be one of those guys where you get
Speaker 3: more tape on him, and I don't think there's like
Speaker 3: a second curve ball for him to adjust and you know,
Speaker 3: make an evolution in his career, because well that already
Speaker 3: occurred because you played sixty games in college and you're
Speaker 3: twenty five years old as a rookie, so I don't
Speaker 3: think it's gonna happen for you in the NFL. I
Speaker 3: think we've seen his peak already at the stage of
Speaker 3: his career. I'll take the Bills over the Lions in
Speaker 3: what is probably a Super Bowl preview at this point.
Speaker 3: I know Buffalo couldn't get a stop against the Rams
Speaker 3: last week, but that Rams offense is pretty dang good.
Speaker 3: The Lions, I feel like if they're going to lose
Speaker 3: a game to the rest of the way, it's probably
Speaker 3: this one.
Speaker 2: So give me Buffalo in a huge huge.
Speaker 3: Actually doesn't really matter, right, I mean, Buffalo actually needs
Speaker 3: to win to stay tight with the Chiefs for that
Speaker 3: first overall seed, because man, if the Chiefs go into
Speaker 3: Week eight team and we have to have them beat
Speaker 3: the Broncos, I don't want to see it be Blaine
Speaker 3: Gabber in that game. I'll take the Cardinals over the Patriots,
Speaker 3: although the Cardinals are tail spinning right now, nose diving
Speaker 3: after a really good month of October into November. There,
Speaker 3: I'll take the Bucks over the Chargers. This is the
Speaker 3: hardest game to pick for me this week. The Chargers
Speaker 3: aren't a good team like they You can't have Lad
Speaker 3: McConkie be your number one receiver with Quinton Johnston and
Speaker 3: Josh Palmer. They're all like decent players, right, But it's
Speaker 3: just like you're not going to compete against teams that
Speaker 3: have Mike Evans and guys that can you know, Bucky
Speaker 3: Irvin although I think he's hurt, but either way, will shoot.
Speaker 3: Josh JK. Dobbins went down. Their whole offense went down too.
Speaker 3: I mean, the only way they scored in that KC
Speaker 3: game was to run the football. I just think that
Speaker 3: the Bucks can score enough points even on a good
Speaker 3: Chargers defense. They need Baker to play clean and you know,
Speaker 3: and basically prevent the Chargers from getting their takeaway because
Speaker 3: its a long way they can really beat teams is
Speaker 3: that they went on defense. I'll take the Bucks on
Speaker 3: the road in Los Angeles. Give me the Packers over
Speaker 3: the Seahawks. I think the Seahawks have been kind of
Speaker 3: on a magic carpet ride, and the Packers, I think
Speaker 3: are going to do what they did last year and
Speaker 3: get red hot and win a bunch of games down
Speaker 3: the stretch. They've already begun that with wins over the Niners, Bears,
Speaker 3: and your Miami Dolphins. I'll take And what the hell
Speaker 3: are these primetime games? What are we doing Bears and Vikings?
Speaker 3: Why why Flores is gonna tear Kayler Williams's head off
Speaker 3: in that game. I'll take the Falcons over the Raiders
Speaker 3: on Monday Night. What's the point of doing flex scheduling
Speaker 3: if you're gonna keep Falcons and Raiders on Monday Night
Speaker 3: one week after you kept Bengals and Cowboys. We're gonna
Speaker 3: look back at week fourteen and fifteen in like early
Speaker 3: April and be like, I wish we had those Monday
Speaker 3: night games back. I didn't watch the game on Monday,
Speaker 3: did you. I don't care about Cowboys and Bengals. I'd
Speaker 3: there's so much content out there. I'm not gonna watch
Speaker 3: pointless football on primetime football. So that's my rant, Falcons
Speaker 3: over the Raiders in that one. Those are the Week
Speaker 3: fifteen picks to take our last break right there. Come
Speaker 3: back on the other side and welcome to Kyle Krabs.
Speaker 3: That's an ext Draft Time podcast, your host Travis Wingfield,
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Speaker 3: football this weekend outside of Army and Navy, which is
Speaker 3: a fun game to watch. But that does not mean
Speaker 3: we will not have Kyle krabs Well coming into the
Speaker 3: show as we do every single Friday. Kyle, my friend,
Speaker 3: how are you And what is your Army Navy tradition
Speaker 3: if you have one?
Speaker 1: So I wish I made it a tradition, but I
Speaker 1: went one year, very very cool. It was maybe twenty
Speaker 1: to twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen Army Navy, which everyone was
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia and it went to like the last play
Speaker 1: of the game on a Hail Mary, and somebody in
Speaker 1: the box was like, man, I hope it doesn't go
Speaker 1: to overtime so I can go home. And I just
Speaker 1: can't imagine being in the box hoping for not watching
Speaker 1: more football, not watching overtime football. And when the college
Speaker 1: football season is done the way that it is here,
Speaker 1: I try to make it a habit to appreciate every
Speaker 1: opportunity to watch football. So my Army Navy tradition is
Speaker 1: to watch the game enthusiastically despite the fact that it
Speaker 1: doesn't have a lot, a bunch of pro prospects or
Speaker 1: anything like that.
Speaker 3: Does that answer surprise anybody from our great Kyle Krabs here.
Speaker 3: It shouldn't, Kyle. I want to get into college stuff
Speaker 3: here with you real quick. But first, you know, you
Speaker 3: inspired me to ask a question to both Mike and
Speaker 3: Tua on Wednesday from your film review, and I saw
Speaker 3: it too, but I like the way you broke it down, obviously,
Speaker 3: and so I brought it up to Tua, and I
Speaker 3: really liked the way he answered the question. But it
Speaker 3: was basically, you know, the way he was able to
Speaker 3: change the launch point on the touchdown pass to Tyreek
Speaker 3: Hill against what was a six man pressure, and Tua
Speaker 3: had talked about in his answer how they saw that
Speaker 3: same rep in practice and they took the outside guy
Speaker 3: and let the inside go go free, which obviously produces
Speaker 3: more a sack in those situations most likely.
Speaker 2: And it just kind of got.
Speaker 3: Me thinking about you know, you've i feel like you've
Speaker 3: always been very fair with Tua with how you've evaluated
Speaker 3: his game, But lately I've I've noticed a lot more
Speaker 3: conviction in belief in him from you, and I'm curious
Speaker 3: where that comes from. How much this growth has I
Speaker 3: suppose maybe changed not just your opinion of Tua's maybe ceiling,
Speaker 3: but the way everyone looks at this guy around the league,
Speaker 3: Cause I feel like right now, man, all the talk
Speaker 3: that's you know, used to be out there about Tua
Speaker 3: that was still negative, it's it's kind of going a
Speaker 3: I mean, there's the same accounts are doing it that
Speaker 3: you know, maybe for attention or for for clicks, but
Speaker 3: it's hard to find guys that don't see it with
Speaker 3: this guy anymore.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the the most common theme amongst successful,
Speaker 1: highly successful NFL quarterbacks is confidence. It's not a physical trade.
Speaker 1: It's it's not arm strength. It's not ability to shrug
Speaker 1: off two edge rushers who got free runs in the
Speaker 1: pocket and then throw the ball fifty yards. It's not
Speaker 1: any of the physical attributes. We've seen quarterbacks of every shape, size,
Speaker 1: and skill set that have come into the league and
Speaker 1: been highly successful quarterbacks. And the common theme is confidence.
Speaker 1: And I just feel like watching Tua Tongue aloa this
Speaker 1: year with the amount of confidence that he exudes. And
Speaker 1: you've kind of heard like those that have been in
Speaker 1: the building alluding to that the last couple of years
Speaker 1: as being where he's continued to take steps forward, forward, forward, forward.
Speaker 1: I think you're seeing it in the public eye more
Speaker 1: the way that he broke down the question that you
Speaker 1: asked him about exactly what happened, and the recall of
Speaker 1: this happened, and this happened in practice with we had
Speaker 1: this protection and the way that they sorted it out
Speaker 1: and the coverage that we got. And you see so
Speaker 1: much of that in the public eye. You see it
Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage. You see it with the
Speaker 1: way he quickly gets to the right reads and eliminates
Speaker 1: certain progressions to be in the right spot to start
Speaker 1: with his eyes in the right place based on the
Speaker 1: coverage shell that you're getting. What the content thing that
Speaker 1: he just did with Keith Lee this week, I thought
Speaker 1: was another great example of that, him talking about all
Speaker 1: the things you have to manage and process and that's
Speaker 1: part of the maturation of a quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 1: And I think you've seen the fruits of that bore
Speaker 1: this year for Tua in a way that makes it
Speaker 1: really hard unless you're just gonna be unabashedly biased for
Speaker 1: whatever personal reason you have to be that to sit
Speaker 1: here and continue to cast out about who he is
Speaker 1: as a player.
Speaker 3: Well, a blue check mark on X does come with
Speaker 3: monetization rewards. If you get enough engagement, and he is
Speaker 3: certainly a lightning rod for that. And to your point
Speaker 3: about the Keith Lee video, if I was good enough
Speaker 3: at doing this type of stuff I would have so
Speaker 3: many of these cooked up already. When he comes down
Speaker 3: the slide with the styrofoam like takeaway container full of
Speaker 3: the two Prime drinks whatever that whatever drinks were in
Speaker 3: their Gator raye twitch, there are so many opportunities there
Speaker 3: for like another two touchdowns he opens up the case.
Speaker 3: I don't know, there's so many things you can do
Speaker 3: with that Dolphins win as a w comes out of
Speaker 3: the styrofoam container. I'd love to see somebody more talented
Speaker 3: than me in that regard cook some of that stuff up. Kyle,
Speaker 3: how do you think, because we've had this discussion before too,
Speaker 3: I think even before, like you know, this concussion this
Speaker 3: season and the comeback where that's when to me like
Speaker 3: he took his game to a different level starting with
Speaker 3: that Arizona Buffalo game, the two losses. But how do
Speaker 3: you feel like his skill set, you know, is maybe
Speaker 3: even more valuable in a landscape that the NFL just
Speaker 3: does not want teams going deep anymore. They want to
Speaker 3: put the roof on the top of the defense, and
Speaker 3: this guy is so adept in the quick game and
Speaker 3: the processing. I kind of feel like the way the
Speaker 3: game is transitioning more towards that he might be even
Speaker 3: more valuab valuable because of where he does thrive in
Speaker 3: the short and quick game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the cycles of the NFL, it's certainly
Speaker 1: in a lot of too high presentation. I think this
Speaker 1: is the highest amount of Cover two that has been
Speaker 1: called in a season by all NFL teams since at
Speaker 1: least twenty twenty. I think Cover three is at the
Speaker 1: lowest point it's been since at least twenty nineteen. So
Speaker 1: I mean that one high versus two high shell. And look,
Speaker 1: maybe the Dolphins are single handedly responsible for this, because
Speaker 1: if you look at individual opponent frequency of cover two
Speaker 1: called the Dolphins, I think they have like three of
Speaker 1: the top six individual games this season of highest percentage
Speaker 1: of Cover two that's been called against him this season.
Speaker 1: So you put out on tape for two years the
Speaker 1: explosive playability with the speed, and you have to adapt
Speaker 1: or die, and you've seen the offense stylistically adapt with
Speaker 1: more complimentary players, and he's at the point now where
Speaker 1: I feel like if you want to live in the
Speaker 1: world where you're going to give him two high shelves
Speaker 1: and a lot of Cover two and a lot of
Speaker 1: Tampa two which you've seen a lot of, and a
Speaker 1: lot of Drop eight trying to flood zones and force
Speaker 1: him make quick decisions. He'll make quick decisions if you
Speaker 1: want to pressure him. You know, that's where I think
Speaker 1: you see the still see the ability to hit guys
Speaker 1: against main coverage and pressure situation on time and move
Speaker 1: the launch point in the process like he did on
Speaker 1: the touchdown pass and they got I had a situational
Speaker 1: fourth down in the low red zone. So it's all
Speaker 1: part of just like building out your skill set. And
Speaker 1: I think that's really where he's at and the strengths
Speaker 1: of it. So long as he makes good decisions to
Speaker 1: protect him himself, I think you're going to play well
Speaker 1: in any number of situations or whatever the coverage trends
Speaker 1: are across the league and hopefully for a long long time.
Speaker 1: And you know, back to the detractor comment real quick,
Speaker 1: like the thing I see now is all he's a
Speaker 1: screen marcher. He threw two screens on the game winning drive.
Speaker 1: It's like did we just forget what happened last year
Speaker 1: like we always did, was throw the ball last two
Speaker 1: Like the last two years, he was like number one
Speaker 1: and twenty plus yard area or throws for like completion
Speaker 1: percentage over expectation and passer rating at just just yeah.
Speaker 1: And you know who else is a little a dot
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes yeahs of all time could not bring myself
Speaker 1: to care less about super efficient passing offenses and being
Speaker 1: able to move the ball and score a lot of points.
Speaker 2: Yeah, whoa, whoa? What was me right? You have a
Speaker 2: great offense.
Speaker 3: Let's let's go ahead and get back into the college
Speaker 3: game here, because that's why I always have you on
Speaker 3: the show here every single Friday. But we don't have
Speaker 3: any games this week besides the aforementioned Army and Navy game.
Speaker 3: Let's go ahead and start with this, Kyle, because for
Speaker 3: as long as I can remember, it was always Shrine
Speaker 3: Bowl was ahead of the Senior Bowl. They would play
Speaker 3: it at the Tropicana Field, and I loved the aesthetic
Speaker 3: of that game and that that dump of a building,
Speaker 3: and you would kind of get like a graduation portion
Speaker 3: of that game to the Senior Bowl from guys that
Speaker 3: perform really well, but now the game is out in
Speaker 3: Las Vegas.
Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaken, it's the.
Speaker 1: Same thing in Arlington now, oh it moved yeah, okay, yeah, Texas,
Speaker 1: all right, so that makes sense.
Speaker 2: And then if it's the same weekend as Senior bull.
Speaker 1: Or yeah, so the game, the Senior Bowl game is
Speaker 1: on the Saturday, the last Saturday, and the Shrine Game
Speaker 1: is like three days beforehand, on that Thursday, two days
Speaker 1: beforehand on that Thursday. So they're right on top of
Speaker 1: each other. So they want to compete. The Shrine Bowl
Speaker 1: wants to compete with the Senior Bowl.
Speaker 3: I'm curious how you think that could impact All Star
Speaker 3: weekend and how scouting absorbs All Star weekend because we've
Speaker 3: already seen basically the entire Colorado Buffalo draft contingency is
Speaker 3: going to the Shrine Bowl.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the competition is good for everyone. I think that's
Speaker 1: the first thing. I think the intensity of having it
Speaker 1: be a good thing to have more exposure and more
Speaker 1: time on task. And now the fact that they're starting
Speaker 1: to open up some of these All Star events to
Speaker 1: non graduated players with diplomas, like you can be an
Speaker 1: underclassman or not have your degree. And now start to
Speaker 1: participate in some of these games as well. The best
Speaker 1: thing that you can do is a player from a
Speaker 1: pre draft process standpoint is have as much exposure as
Speaker 1: you possibly can to NFL personnel and decision makers and
Speaker 1: scouts and those who are responsible for putting evaluation on
Speaker 1: you to get you in the league in the right
Speaker 1: spot to give you the best chance to be successful.
Speaker 1: So the increased I think profile of that is a
Speaker 1: good thing. And you know how Jim and Eric, who
Speaker 1: run those two events effectively put together their teams. You
Speaker 1: know that they've got great people around them. I know
Speaker 1: people want staffs for both of those events, and I
Speaker 1: am here for all competition that forces you as an
Speaker 1: event to be better because I know there's focus on
Speaker 1: like player quality of experience. And it used to be
Speaker 1: just like the Combine where we'd sit here and we'd
Speaker 1: run you through the meat grinder with six am to
Speaker 1: ten pm with meetings and workouts and bench press and
Speaker 1: we do that for four days and then you got
Speaker 1: to go out and do your on field testing and
Speaker 1: we want to see if we could break you. And
Speaker 1: it's less about that more and it's more there's more
Speaker 1: player resources that are forwarded to the players at these events,
Speaker 1: and you still get some of that at the combine,
Speaker 1: but you don't get it double dipped with some of
Speaker 1: the craziness that you used to. I think one of
Speaker 1: the best things that's come out of all of this
Speaker 1: is both events that have kind of done away with
Speaker 1: like public weigh ins, which you know, and that could
Speaker 1: be a very young, comfortable thing for a player to
Speaker 1: walk up on stage and look out into the audience
Speaker 1: and you see all these eyes looking at you, and
Speaker 1: you're wearing some spandex bottom half and that's it to
Speaker 1: step one and get your height and weight taken and
Speaker 1: your ring span take Like it's this kind of ridiculous stuff.
Speaker 1: So doing away with things like that, making it a
Speaker 1: better experience for the players, that more exposure, I think
Speaker 1: that's where the biggest win happens.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you sold me, man, I don't No one needs
Speaker 3: that meat market. I mean it's ridiculous. That's a great point.
Speaker 3: Never need to see that for anybody, And I feel
Speaker 3: bad for anybody that had to experience doing that. How
Speaker 3: about this draft, man, because as we put a bow
Speaker 3: on the regular season in college football, you know, I
Speaker 3: think the quarterback, how you feel about the quarterback position
Speaker 3: kind of, I suppose projects how people view this draft class.
Speaker 3: I'm curious where you think this class stands up from
Speaker 3: years past, where you think the strongest positions are, and
Speaker 3: just kind of I guess give us the lay of
Speaker 3: the land of what this draft looks like to you
Speaker 3: as we sit here on December thirteenth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think some of the best positions in this
Speaker 1: class or positions that maybe aren't necessarily your most stereotypical
Speaker 1: premium positions. I really like this safety class a lot.
Speaker 1: I like Malachi Starks from Georgia. I'll have two other
Speaker 1: players at safety in the top thirty two, and that's
Speaker 1: Xavier Wats from Notre Dame. He's got twelve interceptions the
Speaker 1: last two years. And that's Kamari Ramsey from USC who's
Speaker 1: a retort sophomore transferred over from UCLA. You get your
Speaker 1: eyes on those players and it's very easy to like
Speaker 1: the skill sets that they bring to the table. I
Speaker 1: think this is a loaded group of pass rushers, guys
Speaker 1: on the edge, some guys they can play on the interior.
Speaker 1: I think the defensive interior is not quite as deep
Speaker 1: as what the edge group is, but the defensive front
Speaker 1: has a lot of good quality options. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's a great quarterback class. I don't think it's a
Speaker 1: great wide receiver class. I think it's a really compelling
Speaker 1: running back and tight end class. Like all of the
Speaker 1: non traditional premium positions are where I think there's above
Speaker 1: average to significantly above average quality options in this class,
Speaker 1: and I think that will be really fascinating to see.
Speaker 1: Every year the league kind of tells you something they
Speaker 1: think about that with how they choose to spend in
Speaker 1: free agency, right, Like, look at all the teams last
Speaker 1: year that spent crazy on guards in free agency, and
Speaker 1: you know there was some tackles, but into your offensive line.
Speaker 1: You look at a lot of the guys that got
Speaker 1: drafted on Day two early Day three, the vast majority
Speaker 1: of those guys like didn't win starting jobs this year
Speaker 1: across the league. So really fascinating to see. How Like,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a great tackle class. I think
Speaker 1: most of the tackles that are up at the top
Speaker 1: of the class either have questions. Whether that's Will Campbell,
Speaker 1: who I think is a guard, whether that's Josh Simmons
Speaker 1: at Ohio State who's coming off of a torn acl
Speaker 1: whether that's Cameron Williams who's a super young and inexperienced player.
Speaker 1: There's just a lot of holes and resumes at that
Speaker 1: spot that has med a little apprehensive to buy all
Speaker 1: the way in on that.
Speaker 3: That's interesting because I remember Chris Greer a couple of
Speaker 3: years back talking about like having a two year snapshot
Speaker 3: of the draft and being privy to what's coming down
Speaker 3: the pipeline, and that almost kind of tracks to the
Speaker 3: Patrick Paul selection when we didn't need a left tackle
Speaker 3: last year, but you get him in the pipeline, you
Speaker 3: get him developed to take over for Toron Armstead in
Speaker 3: the future where there's maybe a bit of a weaker
Speaker 3: interior offensive line class to come back this year, maybe
Speaker 3: it's better this time around. So I think that kind
Speaker 3: of tracks too, which the positions you rattle off and
Speaker 3: like you to your point, we'll see you know, so
Speaker 3: much can change between now in March and then to
Speaker 3: April off the draft, but it seems like those are
Speaker 3: some positions Miami could be needing when the season comes
Speaker 3: to an end. Here, So really interesting stuff there. Let's
Speaker 3: go ahead and close with this, Kyle. We have the
Speaker 3: college football Playoff It's been much bandied about. I would
Speaker 3: love to have seen Alabama and Miami in the playoff.
Speaker 2: We will now get that.
Speaker 3: I want to see Cam Warden, Jayaln Milroll play a
Speaker 3: big important football games, but it's not gonna happen. Which
Speaker 3: matchups in the first round for you are most intriguing
Speaker 3: from a scouting perspective, Kyle.
Speaker 1: Can I can I go off the board and go
Speaker 1: with a couple of non playoff.
Speaker 2: Are they gonna play?
Speaker 4: Though?
Speaker 1: Well, we know the pop Tar Bowl? All the Kynes
Speaker 1: guys are gonna play. They are they already? Yeah? Cam
Speaker 1: Cam came out and said he was gonna play. All
Speaker 1: the Colorado guys said that they were gonna playp Tar Bowl.
Speaker 2: Is that what's called?
Speaker 3: Though?
Speaker 1: I thought that was just like the like the pop
Speaker 1: like you know the pop Tark. There is something like
Speaker 1: pop Tart Bowl. Yes, they have the best mascot in
Speaker 1: all football. I mean, well, I don't know if you
Speaker 1: saw it with the pop talk that that went down
Speaker 1: in the toaster for the halftime show.
Speaker 2: Who's the best part about the whole Bull season?
Speaker 1: The UH South Carolina Illinois matchup in the Citrus Bowl
Speaker 1: on New Year's Eve is one that I really like.
Speaker 1: There's some young talent that's not draft eligible. South Carolina
Speaker 1: has a quarterback, Leonora Sellers, who is a freak athlete.
Speaker 1: He's got some Anthony Richardson jeans to him as a
Speaker 1: player that they also South Carolina has the Bronco ne
Speaker 1: Girsky Award winner this year, a Canard, another one of
Speaker 1: those edge rushers who are impressive in this draft class.
Speaker 1: They also have Dylan Stewart, the freshman phenom that they
Speaker 1: have there. So that's a group of talent that if
Speaker 1: they play, and not all of them will play, but
Speaker 1: if they do play and they make the decision to play,
Speaker 1: that's a bowl matchup that I find particularly compelling. I
Speaker 1: don't think we can thumb our nose at Alabama Michigan
Speaker 1: and the rely Quest Bowl. You'll get some showcase of
Speaker 1: talent in that group. Obviously, Michigan from a defensive standpoint,
Speaker 1: you've already had Mason Graham who's declared for the draft.
Speaker 1: But Alabama from trench guys and guys that have been
Speaker 1: long tenured guys there, maybe they're looking to end their
Speaker 1: tenure on a high note and get a win against Michigan.
Speaker 1: That's a new year's Eve Bowl as well. I think
Speaker 1: there's some really interesting matchups with teams that have a
Speaker 1: lot of talent that you probably won't get all of them,
Speaker 1: but I'd be so prized if everybody opted out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, looking forward to that. I think we'll have you
Speaker 3: on next time around. We'll do the we'll do the
Speaker 3: playoff games. We'll circle back to that and get into
Speaker 3: those when they get closer. That's going to be next
Speaker 3: weekend to the game, start this weekend the bowl games.
Speaker 1: Imagine me not knowing anything other than the Dolphins play
Speaker 1: the Texans.
Speaker 3: He is at Kyle Krabs on social. Gotta remember that
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Speaker 3: and he is the NFL Draft lead for the thirty
Speaker 3: third team. Kyle, you said it all once again, Thank
Speaker 3: you as always, and we will see you next week.
Speaker 1: Thanks Travis.
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