WEBVTT - 3. Call for Help

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<v Speaker 1>Pushkin. September sixteenth, two thousand and nine, the day my

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<v Speaker 1>Teres drove to Malibu, her long time off and on

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<v Speaker 1>girlfriend Desiree Black, decided to do something drastic.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the day that I had, I mean finally

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<v Speaker 2>worked up the courage to try and like break it off,

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<v Speaker 2>call it quits, but definitely was not brave enough to

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<v Speaker 2>do that in person.

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<v Speaker 1>She wrote my Teresa text.

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<v Speaker 2>It went something along the lines of I love you,

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<v Speaker 2>I care about you, but I don't think I can

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<v Speaker 2>do this anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>My Teres had been seeing Tessa on and off during

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<v Speaker 1>her relationship with Desiree, and now she was head over

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<v Speaker 1>heels for this new woman, Hannah Parks. Desiree was over it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that it really weighed on me that I

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<v Speaker 2>had to share. So I text that and her response

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<v Speaker 2>was definitely unexpected. Her response was just like, I love you,

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<v Speaker 2>I totally understand you're an amazing person, and like all

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<v Speaker 2>of the things that you don't want to hear when

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<v Speaker 2>you're trying to break it off with somebody, like those

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<v Speaker 2>are all of the things that I was getting.

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<v Speaker 1>After she sent the text, Desiree, who was still a

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<v Speaker 1>student at cal State Fullerton, had to go to track practice,

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<v Speaker 1>but she thought about my tries the whole time.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, like immediately I regretted sending that text. I

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<v Speaker 2>just didn't know how much I was gonna regret it,

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<v Speaker 2>because that day she didn't come home, and that was

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<v Speaker 2>definitely out of the ordinary.

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<v Speaker 1>My Tree still slept over at desires occasionally, and she

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<v Speaker 1>was expecting her that night. At seven pm, when she

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<v Speaker 1>got out of practice, she started texting my Trees.

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<v Speaker 2>She wasn't responding, and I just assumed that that was

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<v Speaker 2>my own fault because of the text message that I'd

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<v Speaker 2>sent out before I went to practice, which was we're

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<v Speaker 2>not doing this anymore. I didn't believe me. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think that she believed me either, But that's.

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<v Speaker 3>What I said.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember making dinner that night and waiting for it?

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<v Speaker 2>To be honest, that whole chunk of time in my

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<v Speaker 2>life is just a blur, Like it was not a

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<v Speaker 2>good time for me, and so I did cook dinner,

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<v Speaker 2>But I can't say for sure, like what else I

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<v Speaker 2>was doing besides like just kind of wondering where she

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<v Speaker 2>was at.

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<v Speaker 1>At seven pm, my treece was nowhere near Desiree's place.

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<v Speaker 1>She was pulling into Jeffreys, an upscale restaurant on Pacific

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<v Speaker 1>Coast Highway. My Treece would later tell the cops she

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<v Speaker 1>stopped at Jeoffrey's because she saw the white fairy lights

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<v Speaker 1>dangling from the trees. She parked in the valet lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Her car was a beater, a ten year old Honda

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<v Speaker 1>Civic with a jerry rigged ignition. She told the valet

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<v Speaker 1>she was there to meet up with Hannah, Hannah with

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<v Speaker 1>the tattoos. She walked past the hostess station to a table,

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<v Speaker 1>smiling at everyone. She ordered a steak and an ocean breeze.

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<v Speaker 1>Within two hours, deputies from Lost Hill Station would be

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<v Speaker 1>at the restaurant, trying to figure out what to do

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<v Speaker 1>with this charming young woman who couldn't pay her eighty

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<v Speaker 1>nine dollars and fifty one cent bill. Where did she

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<v Speaker 1>come from? That was easy. She was from Mars, she said.

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<v Speaker 1>And what was she doing there? Well, she said sweetly,

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<v Speaker 1>she was there to avenge the death of Michael Jackson.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Dana Goodyear and this is Lost Hills, Episode three,

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<v Speaker 1>Call for Help. Hannah Parks says my Trees had been

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<v Speaker 1>in a state of full blown psychosis for over a week.

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<v Speaker 1>She'd lost her grasp on reality. For one thing, Hannah

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<v Speaker 1>says she had no plans to meet My Trees at Jeffrey's.

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<v Speaker 1>That was all in My Teresa's head. My Trees had

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<v Speaker 1>been writing desperately in her journal about not sleeping, about

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<v Speaker 1>being trapped in a never ending waking dream. When she

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<v Speaker 1>got to Jeffrey's. She'd been awake for something like five days.

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<v Speaker 1>Throughout the early morning hours and into the afternoon of

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<v Speaker 1>September sixteenth, she'd churned out a steady stream of social

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<v Speaker 1>media posts about her favorite subject, Michael Jackson. Her journals

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<v Speaker 1>and messages in this episode are being read by an

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<v Speaker 1>actor and have been lightly edited for clarity. One seventeen AM.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh mg, Michael Jackson, I was your biggest fan in

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<v Speaker 4>the world, but you already knew My Trees rich Ardson,

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<v Speaker 4>It's all in the eyes of a believer slash child

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<v Speaker 4>five thirteen AM mood Mike jack current mood crazy, I'm tired.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm so tired. See me, somebody please, I'm here. Doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>anyone hear me? Ghost?

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<v Speaker 1>Eight forty seven AM.

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<v Speaker 4>Princess Diana and Michael Jackson equal My Trees America's Princess.

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<v Speaker 4>Long Live the King, she.

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<v Speaker 1>Went to her job at the freight company owned by

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<v Speaker 1>Tessa's family. She kept posting strange things all day long.

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<v Speaker 4>With Michael's death, the legend is born that proof my

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<v Speaker 4>playing tricks on me forgives that's father.

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<v Speaker 1>The believers were there.

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<v Speaker 4>Flash one thirty four PM two I equal six s's

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<v Speaker 4>Michael Jackson's number one fan. I know it omd omz

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<v Speaker 4>omz omd.

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<v Speaker 1>According to law enforcement documents, while my Truce was watching

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<v Speaker 1>a soap opera in the break room at the freight company,

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<v Speaker 1>she thought that one of the actresses gave her quote

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<v Speaker 1>a message from God telling her to go to Malibu.

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<v Speaker 5>So she was acting strange at work. She wasn't, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>getting her work done because my Truth was very efficient

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<v Speaker 5>at her job.

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<v Speaker 1>This is doctor Ronda Hampton. She's a psychologist my Trees

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<v Speaker 1>interned for in college.

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<v Speaker 5>It's almost like I saw her, what four days a week,

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<v Speaker 5>and we would spend a lot of time together.

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<v Speaker 1>She considered herself a mentor to my Trees.

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<v Speaker 5>So, I mean a lot of our relationship was definitely

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<v Speaker 5>about the work, but it was also about her future.

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<v Speaker 1>Myce was doctor Hampton's intern in two thousand and seven.

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<v Speaker 1>In two thousand and eight, and during that time, doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Hampton began to notice a change in my Trees.

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<v Speaker 5>That her symptoms were really subtle. You know, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 5>anything that was bizarre. A couple times she would come

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<v Speaker 5>in very disheveled or very angry sometimes, and I started

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<v Speaker 5>to notice like a cyclical pattern to that, and it

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<v Speaker 5>was almost like clockwork. I can tell, like every six

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<v Speaker 5>or seven weeks, something's going to happen. You're gonna look

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<v Speaker 5>not right right.

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<v Speaker 1>She urged by Trees to get a psychiatric evaluation. This

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<v Speaker 1>would have been at least a year before Hannah was

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<v Speaker 1>urging her to do the same thing.

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<v Speaker 5>We talked about specifically about bipolar disorder and about the

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<v Speaker 5>treatment for that. And I mean she was very open

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<v Speaker 5>to hearing that. And I know that she got evaluated,

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<v Speaker 5>and I know that she went to the school counseling

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<v Speaker 5>center at least on two occasions.

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<v Speaker 1>Over time, my Teresa's condition grew noticeably worse, but no

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<v Speaker 1>one Hannah seemed to really comprehend just how bad things

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<v Speaker 1>had gotten. My Teresa's mother, Lettis, was preoccupied with marital problems.

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<v Speaker 1>Although they later got back together in two thousand and nine,

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<v Speaker 1>she and her husband Larry, were in the midst of

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<v Speaker 1>a painful divorce, and she had Mia, her young daughter

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<v Speaker 1>with Larry, to worry about. On the day of her disappearance,

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<v Speaker 1>my Trees sent her mother some really confusing texts, which

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<v Speaker 1>Lettis included in her memoir twelve forty eight.

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<v Speaker 4>AM, I told you I would take care of everything, Mommy,

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<v Speaker 4>I love you.

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<v Speaker 1>Three oh four am.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you know my name means behind every man is

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<v Speaker 4>a strong woman?

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<v Speaker 1>What have you taken care of? Lettis replied when she

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<v Speaker 1>woke up my Rice, I'm not understanding. After my Trees

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<v Speaker 1>left work, she didn't go straight to Malibu. She headed

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<v Speaker 1>to cal State Fullerton. She was looking for one of

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<v Speaker 1>her old psychology professors, someone she may have recently confided

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<v Speaker 1>in about her mental problems.

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<v Speaker 5>That professor was not in the office at the time,

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<v Speaker 5>like I think, she may have been teaching a class,

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<v Speaker 5>and so when my Chreece went in there, they said

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<v Speaker 5>she's not going to be here for a few hours.

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<v Speaker 5>And apparently from what I hear is my treet sat

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<v Speaker 5>there and waited for the professor to come so for

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<v Speaker 5>whatever amount of time.

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<v Speaker 1>When the professor returned to her office, she found my

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<v Speaker 1>Trees in an elevated state, talking excitedly about publishing her

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<v Speaker 1>journals as a book. Recognizing something was wrong, the professor

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<v Speaker 1>tried to find someone to help my Trees.

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<v Speaker 5>And so that professor actually walked my Trees to another

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<v Speaker 5>professor who was a clinical psychologist, walked her to that

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<v Speaker 5>psychologist's office. And my Terce was apparently not happy with that,

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<v Speaker 5>and so my Treece at that point said, well, I

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<v Speaker 5>got to go. I'm going to go hang out with

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<v Speaker 5>my friends, and so she ran off left campus.

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<v Speaker 1>She stopped by her aunt's house, where she left some

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<v Speaker 1>flyers advertising her go go dancing. Then she set out

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<v Speaker 1>for Malibu.

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<v Speaker 5>She did say the beach was calling her, so that

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<v Speaker 5>was one of the things that she had said earlier

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<v Speaker 5>in that day. I could see her driving out to

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<v Speaker 5>the beach. She was familiar with Pepperdine because she was

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<v Speaker 5>considering going there for grad school. I can't say whether

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<v Speaker 5>she had ever eaten that Joffrees of before, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 5>but I do know that she was familiar enough with

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<v Speaker 5>how to get to Malibu and the beach.

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<v Speaker 1>In her journals, my Terries wrote about the ocean as

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<v Speaker 1>a place of healing, a place of calm, she was

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<v Speaker 1>in pain and she thought Malibu would help. Can you

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<v Speaker 1>settle a long running question for us, Why is it

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<v Speaker 1>called Jeffrey's not Jeffreys.

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<v Speaker 3>You give me times people have had that argument. Settle

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<v Speaker 3>a bet, and I'm like, Okay, I know exactly what

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<v Speaker 3>you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>This is jeff Peterson. He owns Jeoffrey's Malibu.

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<v Speaker 3>Jeoffrey and Harvey Baskin started Jeffreys in nineteen eighty three. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>it should be pronounced Jeffreys, but his name was Jeoffrey.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff lives in a big McMansion in Malibu. When I

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<v Speaker 1>went to see him, he was in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>a divorce. The place was half empty, and his two

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<v Speaker 1>gigantic dogs were jumping all over the place. He told

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<v Speaker 1>me he came to la in the late eighties to

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<v Speaker 1>be an actor and started busing tables at Jeffreys. Eventually

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<v Speaker 1>he bought the place.

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<v Speaker 3>Lucky for me, I'm a terrible actor. Fail at one

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<v Speaker 3>thing to do well at something else.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeffreys is a Malibu institution. I think tourists, aging celebrities

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<v Speaker 1>and a few Malibu regulars sipping cocktails and eating food

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<v Speaker 1>that hasn't changed since the eighties.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it sits along like a cliff overlooking the ocean,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's surrounded by gardens and water fountains and fire pits.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I was talking to Chuck Woolery one time,

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<v Speaker 3>the old dating game guy. I was Love Connection, one

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<v Speaker 3>of those things, and he was at the restaurant filming something,

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<v Speaker 3>and he said, you know what, this was the number

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<v Speaker 3>one place that men would always say they take their

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<v Speaker 3>dates because it's so romantic and relaxing. So there's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of anniversaries and dates and birthdays and special occasions.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a celebrity clubhouse. The art on the walls is

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<v Speaker 1>made by patrons like Clint Eastwood and John Travolta.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, we get our celebrities. I used to wait on

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<v Speaker 3>Redford back in the day. Nicest man in the world.

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<v Speaker 3>What a class act. So we get a combination of both,

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<v Speaker 3>and we get presidents. So we get.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody in depositions they gave later. Just about everyone who

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<v Speaker 1>interacted with my Treece at the restaurant said they noticed

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<v Speaker 1>that something was wrong with her. The valet, for instance,

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<v Speaker 1>he says he found my Treees sitting in his car

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<v Speaker 1>rifling through his CDs when he asked her what she

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<v Speaker 1>was doing. She replied, it's subliminal, and the hostess, she says,

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<v Speaker 1>my Trees got up from the table where she'd been

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<v Speaker 1>seated alone and joined a party of seven. Hi, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm late. Can I sit next to you? She asked

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<v Speaker 1>one of the strangers. From what these witnesses said later,

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<v Speaker 1>my Rice was pretty amusing, chatty, spirited, and zany, talking

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<v Speaker 1>about her fascination with the number eight and her plans

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<v Speaker 1>to move to Hawaii, and of course Michael Jackson. In

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<v Speaker 1>her deposition, the hostess stated, quote, at this point, I

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<v Speaker 1>did not make too much of the situation because during

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<v Speaker 1>my time working in Malibu, I had encountered lots of

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<v Speaker 1>people who were off in their behavior and personalities. Unquote.

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<v Speaker 1>About an hour after my terse walked into Jeoffrey's, she

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<v Speaker 1>walked out past the hostess stand to the valet. There

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<v Speaker 1>was just one problem. She hadn't paid her bill. In

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<v Speaker 1>his deposition, the manager says he confronted my Rise in

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<v Speaker 1>the parking lot. When she said she couldn't pay, he

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<v Speaker 1>took her back inside. He asked her to empty her pockets,

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<v Speaker 1>thinking there might be a credit card or some cash

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<v Speaker 1>in there. She pulled out a joint. Instead, the manager

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<v Speaker 1>called Jeff, the owner.

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<v Speaker 3>I can remember that night. I remember I was sitting

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<v Speaker 3>on a couch, not this couch, but another couch right here.

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<v Speaker 3>I was sucking a fair flew down. I had a

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<v Speaker 3>cold for the best of my recollection. Calls me up.

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<v Speaker 3>He tells me there's a lady there. They don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if something's wrong with her, if she's mentally ill, if

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<v Speaker 3>she's drunk, if she's high, she's only had one drink,

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<v Speaker 3>and she's talking in gibberish, and he doesn't know what

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<v Speaker 3>to do.

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<v Speaker 1>According to law enforcement documents, when the manager confronted my

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<v Speaker 1>Terse about paying her bill, she said quote that she

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<v Speaker 1>was from Mars and that she was going to have

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<v Speaker 1>sex with him unquote.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think the managers, really they just wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>help her, because the message I got from her was

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<v Speaker 3>that she was a nice, sweet she wasn't threatening, she

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't mean, but something was just very wrong. One of

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<v Speaker 3>the concerns was that we couldn't let her go that

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<v Speaker 3>night without calling for help, because if you let a

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<v Speaker 3>person who's obviously something's wrong with them, and like I said,

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know if it was drugs or alcohol or

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<v Speaker 3>mental illness. If you let a person go and give

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<v Speaker 3>them their car keys and send them out under the

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<v Speaker 3>road and they run over a child or hit a family,

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<v Speaker 3>then people ask you the question and why do would

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<v Speaker 3>you let this person go?

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<v Speaker 1>At eight thirty pm, the manager told the bartender to

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<v Speaker 1>call nine to one one.

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<v Speaker 6>Loss Show Station deputy for Left I can help you.

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<v Speaker 7>Hi, I'm calling from Jeffrey's Restaurant, Nalibu. We have a

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<v Speaker 7>guest here who is refusing to pay her bill, and

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<v Speaker 7>you think she may She sounds really crazy.

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<v Speaker 8>She may be on.

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<v Speaker 9>Drugs or something.

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<v Speaker 7>We are wondering if something to come.

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<v Speaker 6>By and pick her up in Is she a white, Black,

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<v Speaker 6>Asian Hispanic?

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<v Speaker 7>She's young black girls, probably in her twenties.

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<v Speaker 10>Is she with anybody else, No, it's just her.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty minutes later, three Lost Hill's deputies arrived at Jeffrey's.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the equation changed. The deputy searched my Teresa's car,

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<v Speaker 1>supposedly looking for a form of payment, and found it

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<v Speaker 1>was a mess full of CDs, clothes, and shoes. It

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<v Speaker 1>was so bad they thought maybe she'd been living out

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<v Speaker 1>of it, which was pretty accurate. In the trunk they

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<v Speaker 1>found some handles, of vodka, a half drunk bottle of tequila,

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<v Speaker 1>and half a case of beer, and between the two

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<v Speaker 1>front seats they found a small bag of weed. The

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<v Speaker 1>valet asked a deputy what was wrong with my Trees.

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<v Speaker 1>He replied that she was quote a ding, which is

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<v Speaker 1>cop speak for mentally ill. With the deputies, my Treuce

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<v Speaker 1>was lovely. Later, according to investigation documents, they said that

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<v Speaker 1>while she quote seemed slightly embarrassed, Miss Richardson was cooperative

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<v Speaker 1>and polite unquote. The deputies gave her a field sobriety test,

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<v Speaker 1>which she passed. My Trees was trained at keeping up appearances.

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<v Speaker 1>She was afraid of what was happening to her mind,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was in the midst of a crisis that

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<v Speaker 1>was altering her sense of reality. When they asked her

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<v Speaker 1>if she had a history of psychiatric problems, she said no. Still,

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<v Speaker 1>she had to pay that bill. The hostess asked my

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<v Speaker 1>Es if there was anyone she could call. My Rice

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<v Speaker 1>gave her the number of her great grandmother, Mildred Harris.

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<v Speaker 1>The hostess called her and asked her if she could

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<v Speaker 1>come to the restaurant and take care of the bill.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeoffrey's apparently had a policy, and they wouldn't take a

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<v Speaker 1>credit card over the phone. I'm ninety one years old,

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<v Speaker 1>Miss Harris said, I can't drive to Malibu. Then my

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<v Speaker 1>Teres's mother, Latis, called the restaurant and spoke to a manager.

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<v Speaker 1>Investigation documents state that Latisse told the manager her daughter

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<v Speaker 1>had quote been spending time with persons of whom she

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<v Speaker 1>did not approve end quote needed to learn a lesson

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<v Speaker 1>and be taken to jail. My Teresa's offense, dine and

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<v Speaker 1>dash or defrauding an innkeeper was misdemeanor petty theft. That's

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<v Speaker 1>typically a citation, not a crime for which a person

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<v Speaker 1>usually gets taken into custody. But the Jeoffrey's management didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want my Trees leaving in her car. The cops told

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<v Speaker 1>the manager that if he wanted them to take my

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<v Speaker 1>Teres away, the manager would have to make a citizen's arrest.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's how Jeff Peterson, the owner of Jeoffrey's, explains it.

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<v Speaker 3>So what happened was and excuse my dogs there coming

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<v Speaker 3>in the room now. The only way that we were

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<v Speaker 3>able to get her help. The deputy told us, you

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<v Speaker 3>have to charge. We have to be able to take

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<v Speaker 3>her away on something because we didn't defrauding that came

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<v Speaker 3>from them, So they told us, this is what you

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<v Speaker 3>need to do for us to be able to get

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<v Speaker 3>her help.

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<v Speaker 1>There was another option, though, the deputies could have put

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<v Speaker 1>my Rise on a seventy two hour psychiatric hold, also

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<v Speaker 1>known as a fifty one fifty. Jeff says he had

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<v Speaker 1>no idea.

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<v Speaker 3>If I knew that there was other ways, like if

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<v Speaker 3>she could be a charge on a fifty one to

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<v Speaker 3>fifty and take infremntal evaluation and we didn't have to

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<v Speaker 3>do that, then absolutely, why the heck would I want

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<v Speaker 3>a charger because it has never been about eighty nine dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>The Lost Tail's deputies executed a citizen's arrest on the

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<v Speaker 1>dine and dash charge, and also charged my Trees with

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<v Speaker 1>another misdemeanor for the pot in her car. Everyone, even

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<v Speaker 1>her mother, seemed to agree she'd be better off in custody,

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<v Speaker 1>so Anthony Lrero, the arresting officer, decided to hard book

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<v Speaker 1>her at the Lost Tail Sheriff's station. The justification he

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<v Speaker 1>gave his superiors is that he was worried about her,

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<v Speaker 1>that she was quote a little ditzy, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>uneasy about just letting her go. According to internal station

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<v Speaker 1>correspondence written after my Trese was officially a missing person

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<v Speaker 1>or MP quote, deputies uncomfortable with field release, no articulated reason,

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<v Speaker 1>instinctive feeling concern for MP's welfare. Lrero put my Trease

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<v Speaker 1>in the back of a squad car and they drove

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<v Speaker 1>through Malibu Canyon to the station about thirteen miles away. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>her car was taken to a tow yard near Pacific

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<v Speaker 1>Coast Highway, where it was impounded. While my Trace was

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<v Speaker 1>in transit, deputies were preparing for her arrival. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the deputies who had responded to the Jeoffrey's call typed

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<v Speaker 1>a message to another deputy over the interdepartmental computer system

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<v Speaker 1>at station in fifteen refem search. He wrote, what'd you get?

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<v Speaker 1>His colleague typed back, defrauding an innkeeper?

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<v Speaker 2>Lol?

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<v Speaker 1>What did she leave without paying? Tried but failed, then

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<v Speaker 1>had no means to pay? Citizens arrest? Why didn't you

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<v Speaker 1>help assist her out? This exchange is callous and it

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<v Speaker 1>has uncomfortable racial undertones. My Trace was a black female

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<v Speaker 1>alone and in crisis in Malibu. For many, her race

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<v Speaker 1>would be the defining factor in what happened to her,

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<v Speaker 1>she should have been granted extra protection. But that's not

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<v Speaker 1>what happened. What happened is that sometime on that long

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<v Speaker 1>dark drive from the restaurant to the station, the concern

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<v Speaker 1>for my Teres's well being that had justified her arrest

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<v Speaker 1>in the first place seemed to vanish.

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<v Speaker 9>I am calling. I'm a little fred that right now.

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<v Speaker 9>Understand my daughter is being brought into the station. My

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<v Speaker 9>Terce richard'son. Has they made it to the station yet?

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<v Speaker 9>And she's been booked?

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<v Speaker 6>Okay?

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<v Speaker 11>Is do you know where she's coming from?

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<v Speaker 9>It's some restaurant out in Malibu and I didn't even

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<v Speaker 9>think to get the name the manager.

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<v Speaker 11>The only place we have somebody that's in custody that

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<v Speaker 11>they just announced on the radio that they're coming up

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<v Speaker 11>as from Jeffrey's in Jotha Highway.

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<v Speaker 6>It's the only female.

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<v Speaker 11>That's bringing brought up to the station as we speak.

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<v Speaker 11>They actually just put it on the radio right before

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<v Speaker 11>you call them.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a recording of a call Latise Sutton made

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<v Speaker 1>to Lost Hill Station on the night of the arrest.

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<v Speaker 1>It was published on the Internet shortly after my Trieste disappeared.

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<v Speaker 9>Okay, okay, I'm her mother, and are you guys want

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<v Speaker 9>to book her and then release her on her own

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<v Speaker 9>RECOGNI tonight because it's just dark. She doesn't have a car,

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<v Speaker 9>and I don't want her wandering out. I'm totally just

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<v Speaker 9>taken aback because it is so out of character for her.

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<v Speaker 9>And you'll see when she comes in she's well spoken.

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<v Speaker 9>I think the only way I will come and get

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<v Speaker 9>her tonight is if you guys are going to release

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<v Speaker 9>her tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>It was already late, almost ten pm. Latis lived at

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<v Speaker 1>least an hour away from the station. She and Larry

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<v Speaker 1>weren't living together at the time, and she couldn't leave

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<v Speaker 1>their daughter home alone.

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<v Speaker 9>It's going to be held in custody for some type

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<v Speaker 9>of arraignment tomorrow. Then I will wait until tomorrow. You

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<v Speaker 9>definitely have no place, you know. I mean, she's not

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<v Speaker 9>from that area, and I would hate to wake up

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<v Speaker 9>to a morning report so lost somewhere with her head

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<v Speaker 9>chopped off. So I guess I would have to come

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<v Speaker 9>and get her. Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, we're in a gray hose.

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<v Speaker 11>The only thing is at least in the station here

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<v Speaker 11>she will be separated, so nobody's going to be with her. Certainly,

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<v Speaker 11>that's you know the first thing, so you don't have

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<v Speaker 11>to worry about her safety.

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<v Speaker 9>Oh yeah, No, I feel safe with her being in industity.

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<v Speaker 9>It's being released, but I'm worried about it. It's crazy out here.

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<v Speaker 1>A short time later, the squad car carrying my Terse

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<v Speaker 1>arrived at Lost Hill Station. She was taken to a

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<v Speaker 1>booking cell, where she was searched and made to hand

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<v Speaker 1>over her possessions. She was given a medical and mental

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<v Speaker 1>health assessment and a live scan for fingerprints and other

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<v Speaker 1>identifying details like her tattoos, to submit to law enforcement databases.

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<v Speaker 1>Pres my Terce was always radiant, eyes lit up, dazzling smile.

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<v Speaker 1>In the mugshot taken at Lost Hill Station that night,

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<v Speaker 1>she looks like a different person. Her hair is messy,

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<v Speaker 1>her skin looks waxy and tired, but really it's her eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>The light has gone out. Lost Hills is what's known

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<v Speaker 1>as a slow station. That night, there was just one

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<v Speaker 1>other person in custody. My name is Charmaine Murray Henderson.

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<v Speaker 1>I recently met Charmaine in the courtyard of a motel

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<v Speaker 1>where she was staying.

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<v Speaker 12>It was just me and Matries. I don't know how

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<v Speaker 12>big the station was, but I know. It was like

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<v Speaker 12>a little small station where they help people. They say,

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<v Speaker 12>going for like duy. They go in until you get

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<v Speaker 12>well enough to drive, you know, leave again like they

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<v Speaker 12>have hold of self for that type.

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<v Speaker 9>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just a small it's a small station. That night,

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<v Speaker 1>Charmaine said she'd been picked up in the valley for soliciting.

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<v Speaker 1>Her memory's foggy, it's been a long time and over

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<v Speaker 1>the years she's had multiple strokes, but she does remember

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<v Speaker 1>that my Ruse was already in the cell when she arrived.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean she was there before me.

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<v Speaker 12>And I walked in cause she was standing like in

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<v Speaker 12>a doorway, like I need to sit down. I'm very tired.

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<v Speaker 12>I want to sit down. It was just me and

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<v Speaker 12>her and the cell and she was just by the doorway,

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<v Speaker 12>and I was like, excuse, what can I get anced

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<v Speaker 12>I can sit down.

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<v Speaker 1>Charmaine noticed right away that my Ruse was acting strange.

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<v Speaker 12>From some of her like her actions and stuff. I

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<v Speaker 12>could tell that she was not okay to be by herself.

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<v Speaker 12>I don't a know what kind of mental state she

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<v Speaker 12>was in, Like some people ain't okay to be by theirself.

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<v Speaker 1>She seemed kind of vulnerable to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, very vulnerable.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I read somewhere that you requested to change cells.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember that? Was she being.

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<v Speaker 12>Annoying because she was like she when I understand her situation,

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<v Speaker 12>like I'm trying to sleep if she gonna keep knocking

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<v Speaker 12>at the door trying to like.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, she wanted she wanted out.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, who arrest someone?

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<v Speaker 12>Did you get a ticket for that? So you can

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<v Speaker 12>go to jail for not betting to pay your meal?

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<v Speaker 12>Who arrest someone for that? So it was like they

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<v Speaker 12>went overboard with it, and I felt I failed her.

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<v Speaker 12>So she was like she wanted she wanted out.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like banging on the door, begging her.

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<v Speaker 12>Door, like trying to get deputy, like cite me out

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<v Speaker 12>or let me know my charges.

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<v Speaker 1>Around eleven forty five PM, when it was determined that

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<v Speaker 1>my Trees had no outstanding warrants, the jailer gave her

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<v Speaker 1>the citation and told her she could go. She asked

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<v Speaker 1>my Trees if someone was going to pick her up.

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<v Speaker 1>My Trees said she hadn't been able to reach anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>According to the Sheriff's Department, she had tried calling her

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<v Speaker 1>great grandmother, Mildred Harris, with no luck. The jailer later

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<v Speaker 1>said she offered to let my Tree stay the night

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<v Speaker 1>in an unlocked cell or wait in the front lobby

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<v Speaker 1>until she got a ride, but she declined, saying she

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<v Speaker 1>had to go meet friends. Charmaine was in a different

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<v Speaker 1>cell at this point, but she says she could hear

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<v Speaker 1>what was going on.

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<v Speaker 12>I guess they cited her out, But when you cite

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<v Speaker 12>someone out, you still don't let them leave until they

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<v Speaker 12>didn't have knowledge of a ride or they have a

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<v Speaker 12>way to get somewhere. I mean, they can call a

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<v Speaker 12>calf on their own something like that. You know, they

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<v Speaker 12>wouldn't have released me in the middle of the night.

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<v Speaker 12>I mean I would hope not, you know, because it's

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<v Speaker 12>in the middle of nowhere.

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<v Speaker 1>It struck her as unusual and not okay.

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<v Speaker 12>When I seen the news, there was like, damn, that's

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<v Speaker 12>crazy because I was like in a cell with this

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<v Speaker 12>woman and I was saying she's missing. I was thinking like, damn,

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<v Speaker 12>if I would have got released like that could have

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<v Speaker 12>been me.

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<v Speaker 1>Over the following weeks, months, and years, the Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 1>County Sheriff's Department would repeatedly seek to justify the release

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<v Speaker 1>of my Terce Richardson saying that legally they did not

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<v Speaker 1>have the right to detain her. She had no outstanding warrants,

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<v Speaker 1>her infractions were misdemeanors, and she was not gravely disabled

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<v Speaker 1>or in immediate danger to herself or others. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>standard for a fifty one to fifty psychiatric hold.

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<v Speaker 8>That's bullshit, is what that is. That's bullshit.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's Hannah again.

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<v Speaker 8>A young woman by herself, drives to Malibu to go

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<v Speaker 8>to Joffrey's, an expensive restaurant in Malibu, by herself, claiming

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<v Speaker 8>she's there to avenge Michael Jackson's death, sits with people

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<v Speaker 8>she doesn't know, says weird things, gets arrested for her

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<v Speaker 8>own safety, goes to the police station. All of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 8>she's okay, that's bullshit. She wasn't okay.

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<v Speaker 1>My Teresa's unstable mental condition was the reason deputies had

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<v Speaker 1>taken her into custos in the first place. Remember, the

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<v Speaker 1>arresting deputy thought she was quote a little ditzy, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was uneasy about just letting her go. But once

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<v Speaker 1>she got to the station, law enforcement says, my ruse

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<v Speaker 1>was acting normal, so they had no reason to keep her.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, they said they were legally obligated to release her.

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<v Speaker 1>Hannah says, that is just not possible. Anyone who interacted

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<v Speaker 1>with my Trees would have recognized that she was in crisis.

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<v Speaker 8>I understand that some people are thinking, oh, maybe she

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<v Speaker 8>was on drugs, or maybe that's what it was. For

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<v Speaker 8>me personally, it was a psychotic break that my Trace

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<v Speaker 8>was experiencing. The drive to Malibu, the Jeoffreys, the saying

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<v Speaker 8>she was meeting me, the talking about aliens and Michael

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<v Speaker 8>Jackson and all that. And it is without question anybody

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<v Speaker 8>that came into contact with my Trees, look at the mugshot.

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<v Speaker 8>Anybody who came into any contact with her. I don't

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<v Speaker 8>care who you are, family, neighbor, somebody who's walking past

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<v Speaker 8>her on the street. There is a zero percent chance

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<v Speaker 8>that they didn't know something was wrong with her mentally zero.

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<v Speaker 1>At twelve twenty five am, my Trace left Lost Hill Station.

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<v Speaker 1>She had no money, and her phone was in her car,

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<v Speaker 1>which was in a towyard ten miles away on the

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<v Speaker 1>other side of Malibu Canyon near Pacific Coast Highway.

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<v Speaker 8>Make it make sense, It doesn't make sense. At bare minimum,

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<v Speaker 8>they should have kept my Trees at the Sheriff's station

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<v Speaker 8>until morning, until her mom came or somebody came to

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<v Speaker 8>to come check on her and get her. She had nothing.

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<v Speaker 8>They knew she was mentally unwell, which is why she

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<v Speaker 8>was there in the first place. What they should have

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<v Speaker 8>done is placed her on a hold and taken her

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<v Speaker 8>to a psychiatric facility. But they can't do that because

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<v Speaker 8>they're claiming she was fine. They're lying. It's bullshit, and

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<v Speaker 8>if you care about my truths, you'll say what's true.

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<v Speaker 8>That's true. They're just trying to cover their own as

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<v Speaker 8>that's bullshit, and that really bothers me.

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<v Speaker 1>Once she left the station, my Trees had no way

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<v Speaker 1>to call anyone for help and no way for help

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<v Speaker 1>to find her. All of this was news to her mother,

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<v Speaker 1>who called the station around five twenty am on the

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<v Speaker 1>morning of the seventeenth and was horrified to learn that

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<v Speaker 1>her daughter was no longer there. She thought she had

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<v Speaker 1>an agreement with the cops that they would keep my

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<v Speaker 1>Trees overnight. Latisse was alarmed. My Trees had already been

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<v Speaker 1>out of custody for five hours and no one in

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<v Speaker 1>the family had heard from her. Fifteen minutes later, at

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<v Speaker 1>five thirty five am, Latiz called Lost Hill station again

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<v Speaker 1>to find out how to file a missing person's report.

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<v Speaker 6>Last Hield Station bomb gardener.

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<v Speaker 1>This recording of Latisa's call was released on the internet

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<v Speaker 1>shortly after My Trees disappeared.

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<v Speaker 9>Yes, Hi, my name is Latista and I called not

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<v Speaker 9>too long ago regarding my daughter. My Trees wouldn been

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<v Speaker 9>How long before a missing person's report can be filed

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<v Speaker 9>at the twenty four or forty eight hours?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, it depends on the circumstances. But I didn't take

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<v Speaker 6>your call, so I'm not familiar with it. Did she

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<v Speaker 6>just not return home after going out?

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<v Speaker 1>She explains that my Trees had been in custody at

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<v Speaker 1>Lost Hill Station and then released.

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<v Speaker 9>She was arrested last night. This is the first time

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<v Speaker 9>she's been arrested. She's in an unknown area she's never

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<v Speaker 9>been in. She got out a vehicle. Nobody can find her.

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<v Speaker 1>But the deputy doesn't seem overly concerned. He thinks Latist

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<v Speaker 1>can hold off on the missing person's report.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, normally we wouldn't. I wouldn't recommend doing one.

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<v Speaker 9>That soon, right, What is the time frame?

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 6>I guess probably twenty four hours would be reasonable. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>if there would be some some mitigating factors. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>where you know, you would suspect maybe something.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, yeah, right, she doesn't know the area. She's never

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<v Speaker 9>been in your.

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<v Speaker 6>Area where you where does she live?

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<v Speaker 9>Is unfamiliar with that area?

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<v Speaker 6>Do you think she possibly could have gotten a bus home?

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<v Speaker 9>And listen, my child has never written a bus. No,

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<v Speaker 9>she would not know how to ride a bus.

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<v Speaker 6>I would probably wait till you know, early this morning,

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<v Speaker 6>and if she doesn't turn up, you can certainly call.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't suspect anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Bad happen, but latist does suspect something bad has happened.

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<v Speaker 1>So she decides to level with.

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<v Speaker 9>Him something something is obviously going on with her. Have

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<v Speaker 9>you tried to the jailer and yes, yes, yes, yes

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<v Speaker 9>I have. He said he tried to get her distabled.

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<v Speaker 9>Because she was an adult, they had to let her go.

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<v Speaker 9>I believe that she is highly depressed, and she she's

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<v Speaker 9>in a depressed state.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, it could be possible that maybe she I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>there's a lot of options and a lot of possibilities,

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<v Speaker 6>and I don't think all of them would be you know,

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<v Speaker 6>something dire. But I can certainly understand your fears, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>being your daughter and all that.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, I think she's suppressed. That's what happened.

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<v Speaker 6>Is that that's worth more than just her Okay, that and.

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<v Speaker 9>The fact that she's in an area where she doesn't

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<v Speaker 9>know where she's at.

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<v Speaker 6>It doesn't take medication at all.

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<v Speaker 9>No, she I believe this is a state that she's in

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<v Speaker 9>right now because of just the weird activities.

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<v Speaker 6>What's your name is?

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<v Speaker 9>Her name is my tree?

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<v Speaker 6>I'll rid.

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<v Speaker 1>In another hour around six thirty am. Bill and Karen Smith,

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<v Speaker 1>the couple in Montanito who spotted my trees in their backyard,

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<v Speaker 1>would call the cops office CAMPI. This is a recording

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<v Speaker 1>of that call, which was published online.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, I, hey, this is a Smith a cold Canyon.

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<v Speaker 10>We had a prower walking around through the backyard here,

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<v Speaker 10>but we don't know what the situation was. I don't

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<v Speaker 10>know if you have a union in the area, might

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<v Speaker 10>do a little drive by or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, where's this that the Smith lived at the Tennis

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<v Speaker 1>Court House.

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<v Speaker 10>This is Cold Canyon like ont Cold and Money and Needle.

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<v Speaker 10>But it's in the back of the house, which is

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<v Speaker 10>right where wood Bluff hits the Cold Canyon. And we

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<v Speaker 10>just said, a strange woman walk up through the backyard here.

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<v Speaker 10>It is fairly large property, and she was sitting on

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<v Speaker 10>the steps right right on the back of the house.

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<v Speaker 10>Here this is kind of a circular driveway and the

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<v Speaker 10>big gates were closed, so we don't know where this

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<v Speaker 10>woman came from.

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<v Speaker 1>Their property, Smith said, connected to a network of trails

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<v Speaker 1>used by everyone in the neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 10>What she looked like white, black, and you know, a tall,

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<v Speaker 10>slim black woman with afro hair. While she was sitting down,

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<v Speaker 10>stretched out on the wooden steps in the back of

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<v Speaker 10>the house. Hard to tell, but does She looked like

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<v Speaker 10>she might have been medium to slightly tall, with a

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<v Speaker 10>big afrol hair, very skinny, and I think she was

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<v Speaker 10>wearing maybe jeans or tight pants with a T shirt.

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<v Speaker 10>You've never seen her there before, No, never, Nobody never

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<v Speaker 10>does that. I mean, the people hike on the trail

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<v Speaker 10>all the time, you know, when the trail goes through

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<v Speaker 10>our property, but we leave it open on purpose because

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<v Speaker 10>it's kind of a nice thing for horses and people.

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<v Speaker 6>And he said, she's laying across me. She wasn't laying

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<v Speaker 6>across the steps.

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<v Speaker 10>Or but she was sitting kind of sprawled out upon

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<v Speaker 10>these wooden steps in the back of the house right

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<v Speaker 10>against the back of the house. She since got up

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<v Speaker 10>and left. She since gone. Yeah, she's been gone about

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<v Speaker 10>five minutes now. But as we follow over, we thought

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<v Speaker 10>maybe a little drive by wouldn't be a bad idea.

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<v Speaker 6>And in what direction was she sheld have seen?

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<v Speaker 3>Who?

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<v Speaker 10>Never saw her? Once she left, she just disappeared. I

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<v Speaker 10>moved from one window to another. I said to her,

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<v Speaker 10>I hollered down. Are you all right? She said, I'm

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<v Speaker 10>just resting, or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>According to her memoir, when Latis arrived at Lost Hill

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<v Speaker 1>station to file a missing person's report, the deputy recognized

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<v Speaker 1>the name my Teres Richardson. He told the tease someone

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<v Speaker 1>who looked like her daughter had been seen in Montanito

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<v Speaker 1>early that morning. My race, she said, might be quote

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<v Speaker 1>with some friends in the neighborhood unquote friends in Montanito.

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<v Speaker 1>My trees didn't have any friends in Montanito. Latis asked

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<v Speaker 1>how to get there. The deputy told her just take

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<v Speaker 1>Las Virgines, the road that turns into Malibu Canyon and

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<v Speaker 1>you'll hit Cold Canyon Road. As Latis drove mile after

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<v Speaker 1>mile of rural canyon road, no houses, no street lamps,

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<v Speaker 1>no nothing, she thought, there's no way on earth, my

0:40:38.836 --> 0:40:45.156
<v Speaker 1>daughter walked here, My trees was afraid of the dark.

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<v Speaker 1>Next time on Lost Hills, did you have the feeling

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<v Speaker 1>when you were dealing with people in Montanito like they

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to tell you something but they couldn't tell you something.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, definitely, people just didn't want to talk. They're just

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<v Speaker 5>afraid of law enforcement. This story by this time had

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<v Speaker 5>broke on the news and law enforcement did not look good.

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<v Speaker 5>They're not really in a position to talk because these

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<v Speaker 5>are the people that they have to rely on to

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<v Speaker 5>protect them because you know it's so secluded.

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<v Speaker 1>That's next in episode four of Lost Hills Hopscotch. Lost

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<v Speaker 1>Tills is written and hosted by Me Dana Goodyear. It

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