1 00:00:15,036 --> 00:00:31,516 Speaker 1: Pushkin. September sixteenth, two thousand and nine, the day my 2 00:00:31,596 --> 00:00:34,716 Speaker 1: Teres drove to Malibu, her long time off and on 3 00:00:34,796 --> 00:00:38,996 Speaker 1: girlfriend Desiree Black, decided to do something drastic. 4 00:00:40,276 --> 00:00:46,916 Speaker 2: That was the day that I had, I mean finally 5 00:00:46,956 --> 00:00:51,676 Speaker 2: worked up the courage to try and like break it off, 6 00:00:51,756 --> 00:00:56,996 Speaker 2: call it quits, but definitely was not brave enough to 7 00:00:57,036 --> 00:00:57,796 Speaker 2: do that in person. 8 00:00:58,916 --> 00:01:00,316 Speaker 1: She wrote my Teresa text. 9 00:01:01,236 --> 00:01:05,956 Speaker 2: It went something along the lines of I love you, 10 00:01:06,036 --> 00:01:09,596 Speaker 2: I care about you, but I don't think I can 11 00:01:10,036 --> 00:01:11,196 Speaker 2: do this anymore. 12 00:01:12,276 --> 00:01:14,636 Speaker 1: My Teres had been seeing Tessa on and off during 13 00:01:14,636 --> 00:01:17,396 Speaker 1: her relationship with Desiree, and now she was head over 14 00:01:17,436 --> 00:01:21,596 Speaker 1: heels for this new woman, Hannah Parks. Desiree was over it. 15 00:01:22,716 --> 00:01:25,876 Speaker 2: I think that it really weighed on me that I 16 00:01:27,276 --> 00:01:34,516 Speaker 2: had to share. So I text that and her response 17 00:01:35,396 --> 00:01:41,276 Speaker 2: was definitely unexpected. Her response was just like, I love you, 18 00:01:41,356 --> 00:01:45,996 Speaker 2: I totally understand you're an amazing person, and like all 19 00:01:46,036 --> 00:01:49,076 Speaker 2: of the things that you don't want to hear when 20 00:01:49,956 --> 00:01:53,476 Speaker 2: you're trying to break it off with somebody, like those 21 00:01:53,516 --> 00:01:55,436 Speaker 2: are all of the things that I was getting. 22 00:01:56,356 --> 00:01:59,196 Speaker 1: After she sent the text, Desiree, who was still a 23 00:01:59,236 --> 00:02:02,316 Speaker 1: student at cal State Fullerton, had to go to track practice, 24 00:02:02,876 --> 00:02:05,276 Speaker 1: but she thought about my tries the whole time. 25 00:02:06,436 --> 00:02:12,356 Speaker 2: I mean, like immediately I regretted sending that text. I 26 00:02:12,436 --> 00:02:14,836 Speaker 2: just didn't know how much I was gonna regret it, 27 00:02:15,596 --> 00:02:22,076 Speaker 2: because that day she didn't come home, and that was 28 00:02:22,316 --> 00:02:23,876 Speaker 2: definitely out of the ordinary. 29 00:02:24,676 --> 00:02:28,236 Speaker 1: My Tree still slept over at desires occasionally, and she 30 00:02:28,436 --> 00:02:32,516 Speaker 1: was expecting her that night. At seven pm, when she 31 00:02:32,556 --> 00:02:35,196 Speaker 1: got out of practice, she started texting my Trees. 32 00:02:36,236 --> 00:02:41,596 Speaker 2: She wasn't responding, and I just assumed that that was 33 00:02:41,636 --> 00:02:46,556 Speaker 2: my own fault because of the text message that I'd 34 00:02:46,556 --> 00:02:49,836 Speaker 2: sent out before I went to practice, which was we're 35 00:02:49,836 --> 00:02:54,276 Speaker 2: not doing this anymore. I didn't believe me. I don't 36 00:02:54,596 --> 00:02:58,236 Speaker 2: think that she believed me either, But that's. 37 00:02:58,156 --> 00:02:58,796 Speaker 3: What I said. 38 00:02:59,996 --> 00:03:02,116 Speaker 1: Do you remember making dinner that night and waiting for it? 39 00:03:03,036 --> 00:03:08,276 Speaker 2: To be honest, that whole chunk of time in my 40 00:03:08,316 --> 00:03:13,836 Speaker 2: life is just a blur, Like it was not a 41 00:03:13,876 --> 00:03:17,836 Speaker 2: good time for me, and so I did cook dinner, 42 00:03:18,596 --> 00:03:24,116 Speaker 2: But I can't say for sure, like what else I 43 00:03:24,236 --> 00:03:28,676 Speaker 2: was doing besides like just kind of wondering where she 44 00:03:28,796 --> 00:03:29,236 Speaker 2: was at. 45 00:03:31,676 --> 00:03:34,956 Speaker 1: At seven pm, my treece was nowhere near Desiree's place. 46 00:03:35,556 --> 00:03:38,916 Speaker 1: She was pulling into Jeffreys, an upscale restaurant on Pacific 47 00:03:38,956 --> 00:03:42,476 Speaker 1: Coast Highway. My Treece would later tell the cops she 48 00:03:42,516 --> 00:03:45,756 Speaker 1: stopped at Jeoffrey's because she saw the white fairy lights 49 00:03:45,876 --> 00:03:49,236 Speaker 1: dangling from the trees. She parked in the valet lot. 50 00:03:50,036 --> 00:03:52,556 Speaker 1: Her car was a beater, a ten year old Honda 51 00:03:52,556 --> 00:03:56,156 Speaker 1: Civic with a jerry rigged ignition. She told the valet 52 00:03:56,196 --> 00:03:58,556 Speaker 1: she was there to meet up with Hannah, Hannah with 53 00:03:58,636 --> 00:04:02,956 Speaker 1: the tattoos. She walked past the hostess station to a table, 54 00:04:03,276 --> 00:04:08,756 Speaker 1: smiling at everyone. She ordered a steak and an ocean breeze. 55 00:04:09,516 --> 00:04:12,716 Speaker 1: Within two hours, deputies from Lost Hill Station would be 56 00:04:12,756 --> 00:04:15,436 Speaker 1: at the restaurant, trying to figure out what to do 57 00:04:15,516 --> 00:04:18,396 Speaker 1: with this charming young woman who couldn't pay her eighty 58 00:04:18,516 --> 00:04:22,116 Speaker 1: nine dollars and fifty one cent bill. Where did she 59 00:04:22,156 --> 00:04:26,516 Speaker 1: come from? That was easy. She was from Mars, she said. 60 00:04:26,916 --> 00:04:30,276 Speaker 1: And what was she doing there? Well, she said sweetly, 61 00:04:30,956 --> 00:04:34,316 Speaker 1: she was there to avenge the death of Michael Jackson. 62 00:04:40,396 --> 00:05:09,996 Speaker 1: I'm Dana Goodyear and this is Lost Hills, Episode three, 63 00:05:10,716 --> 00:05:17,996 Speaker 1: Call for Help. Hannah Parks says my Trees had been 64 00:05:18,156 --> 00:05:21,716 Speaker 1: in a state of full blown psychosis for over a week. 65 00:05:23,276 --> 00:05:26,596 Speaker 1: She'd lost her grasp on reality. For one thing, Hannah 66 00:05:26,596 --> 00:05:29,596 Speaker 1: says she had no plans to meet My Trees at Jeffrey's. 67 00:05:30,116 --> 00:05:33,636 Speaker 1: That was all in My Teresa's head. My Trees had 68 00:05:33,676 --> 00:05:37,436 Speaker 1: been writing desperately in her journal about not sleeping, about 69 00:05:37,436 --> 00:05:42,076 Speaker 1: being trapped in a never ending waking dream. When she 70 00:05:42,156 --> 00:05:45,996 Speaker 1: got to Jeffrey's. She'd been awake for something like five days. 71 00:05:47,556 --> 00:05:50,476 Speaker 1: Throughout the early morning hours and into the afternoon of 72 00:05:50,516 --> 00:05:54,316 Speaker 1: September sixteenth, she'd churned out a steady stream of social 73 00:05:54,356 --> 00:06:00,356 Speaker 1: media posts about her favorite subject, Michael Jackson. Her journals 74 00:06:00,356 --> 00:06:02,556 Speaker 1: and messages in this episode are being read by an 75 00:06:02,596 --> 00:06:10,836 Speaker 1: actor and have been lightly edited for clarity. One seventeen AM. 76 00:06:09,476 --> 00:06:13,996 Speaker 4: Oh mg, Michael Jackson, I was your biggest fan in 77 00:06:14,036 --> 00:06:19,036 Speaker 4: the world, but you already knew My Trees rich Ardson, 78 00:06:19,796 --> 00:06:23,076 Speaker 4: It's all in the eyes of a believer slash child 79 00:06:24,076 --> 00:06:31,636 Speaker 4: five thirteen AM mood Mike jack current mood crazy, I'm tired. 80 00:06:31,996 --> 00:06:37,036 Speaker 4: I'm so tired. See me, somebody please, I'm here. Doesn't 81 00:06:37,076 --> 00:06:40,436 Speaker 4: anyone hear me? Ghost? 82 00:06:41,356 --> 00:06:43,516 Speaker 1: Eight forty seven AM. 83 00:06:43,556 --> 00:06:49,356 Speaker 4: Princess Diana and Michael Jackson equal My Trees America's Princess. 84 00:06:50,116 --> 00:06:52,996 Speaker 4: Long Live the King, she. 85 00:06:52,996 --> 00:06:55,276 Speaker 1: Went to her job at the freight company owned by 86 00:06:55,316 --> 00:06:59,676 Speaker 1: Tessa's family. She kept posting strange things all day long. 87 00:07:00,556 --> 00:07:04,116 Speaker 4: With Michael's death, the legend is born that proof my 88 00:07:04,276 --> 00:07:07,316 Speaker 4: playing tricks on me forgives that's father. 89 00:07:09,236 --> 00:07:10,036 Speaker 1: The believers were there. 90 00:07:09,996 --> 00:07:16,036 Speaker 4: Flash one thirty four PM two I equal six s's 91 00:07:16,396 --> 00:07:21,036 Speaker 4: Michael Jackson's number one fan. I know it omd omz 92 00:07:21,396 --> 00:07:23,116 Speaker 4: omz omd. 93 00:07:25,236 --> 00:07:28,476 Speaker 1: According to law enforcement documents, while my Truce was watching 94 00:07:28,556 --> 00:07:30,956 Speaker 1: a soap opera in the break room at the freight company, 95 00:07:31,476 --> 00:07:34,196 Speaker 1: she thought that one of the actresses gave her quote 96 00:07:34,356 --> 00:07:37,516 Speaker 1: a message from God telling her to go to Malibu. 97 00:07:38,516 --> 00:07:41,196 Speaker 5: So she was acting strange at work. She wasn't, you know, 98 00:07:41,276 --> 00:07:43,996 Speaker 5: getting her work done because my Truth was very efficient 99 00:07:44,076 --> 00:07:44,636 Speaker 5: at her job. 100 00:07:45,556 --> 00:07:49,476 Speaker 1: This is doctor Ronda Hampton. She's a psychologist my Trees 101 00:07:49,596 --> 00:07:52,076 Speaker 1: interned for in college. 102 00:07:52,396 --> 00:07:55,356 Speaker 5: It's almost like I saw her, what four days a week, 103 00:07:55,676 --> 00:07:57,276 Speaker 5: and we would spend a lot of time together. 104 00:07:58,076 --> 00:08:00,956 Speaker 1: She considered herself a mentor to my Trees. 105 00:08:01,436 --> 00:08:03,516 Speaker 5: So, I mean a lot of our relationship was definitely 106 00:08:03,596 --> 00:08:07,316 Speaker 5: about the work, but it was also about her future. 107 00:08:08,356 --> 00:08:11,356 Speaker 1: Myce was doctor Hampton's intern in two thousand and seven. 108 00:08:11,396 --> 00:08:14,356 Speaker 1: In two thousand and eight, and during that time, doctor 109 00:08:14,396 --> 00:08:17,156 Speaker 1: Hampton began to notice a change in my Trees. 110 00:08:18,236 --> 00:08:20,516 Speaker 5: That her symptoms were really subtle. You know, it wasn't 111 00:08:20,556 --> 00:08:24,436 Speaker 5: anything that was bizarre. A couple times she would come 112 00:08:24,436 --> 00:08:28,876 Speaker 5: in very disheveled or very angry sometimes, and I started 113 00:08:28,916 --> 00:08:31,836 Speaker 5: to notice like a cyclical pattern to that, and it 114 00:08:31,876 --> 00:08:34,036 Speaker 5: was almost like clockwork. I can tell, like every six 115 00:08:34,116 --> 00:08:37,236 Speaker 5: or seven weeks, something's going to happen. You're gonna look 116 00:08:37,636 --> 00:08:38,396 Speaker 5: not right right. 117 00:08:39,556 --> 00:08:43,196 Speaker 1: She urged by Trees to get a psychiatric evaluation. This 118 00:08:43,276 --> 00:08:45,876 Speaker 1: would have been at least a year before Hannah was 119 00:08:45,996 --> 00:08:47,556 Speaker 1: urging her to do the same thing. 120 00:08:48,676 --> 00:08:52,836 Speaker 5: We talked about specifically about bipolar disorder and about the 121 00:08:52,876 --> 00:08:55,596 Speaker 5: treatment for that. And I mean she was very open 122 00:08:55,956 --> 00:08:59,596 Speaker 5: to hearing that. And I know that she got evaluated, 123 00:08:59,636 --> 00:09:01,556 Speaker 5: and I know that she went to the school counseling 124 00:09:01,596 --> 00:09:03,036 Speaker 5: center at least on two occasions. 125 00:09:04,516 --> 00:09:08,676 Speaker 1: Over time, my Teresa's condition grew noticeably worse, but no 126 00:09:08,676 --> 00:09:13,276 Speaker 1: one Hannah seemed to really comprehend just how bad things 127 00:09:13,276 --> 00:09:19,516 Speaker 1: had gotten. My Teresa's mother, Lettis, was preoccupied with marital problems. 128 00:09:19,836 --> 00:09:22,716 Speaker 1: Although they later got back together in two thousand and nine, 129 00:09:22,756 --> 00:09:24,836 Speaker 1: she and her husband Larry, were in the midst of 130 00:09:24,836 --> 00:09:28,476 Speaker 1: a painful divorce, and she had Mia, her young daughter 131 00:09:28,516 --> 00:09:32,716 Speaker 1: with Larry, to worry about. On the day of her disappearance, 132 00:09:32,836 --> 00:09:36,156 Speaker 1: my Trees sent her mother some really confusing texts, which 133 00:09:36,236 --> 00:09:39,796 Speaker 1: Lettis included in her memoir twelve forty eight. 134 00:09:39,836 --> 00:09:43,396 Speaker 4: AM, I told you I would take care of everything, Mommy, 135 00:09:43,956 --> 00:09:44,476 Speaker 4: I love you. 136 00:09:45,796 --> 00:09:47,636 Speaker 1: Three oh four am. 137 00:09:48,156 --> 00:09:51,756 Speaker 4: Did you know my name means behind every man is 138 00:09:51,796 --> 00:09:52,796 Speaker 4: a strong woman? 139 00:09:54,556 --> 00:09:57,356 Speaker 1: What have you taken care of? Lettis replied when she 140 00:09:57,436 --> 00:10:02,876 Speaker 1: woke up my Rice, I'm not understanding. After my Trees 141 00:10:02,956 --> 00:10:06,516 Speaker 1: left work, she didn't go straight to Malibu. She headed 142 00:10:06,556 --> 00:10:10,236 Speaker 1: to cal State Fullerton. She was looking for one of 143 00:10:10,236 --> 00:10:14,236 Speaker 1: her old psychology professors, someone she may have recently confided 144 00:10:14,276 --> 00:10:15,796 Speaker 1: in about her mental problems. 145 00:10:17,076 --> 00:10:19,276 Speaker 5: That professor was not in the office at the time, 146 00:10:19,316 --> 00:10:20,876 Speaker 5: like I think, she may have been teaching a class, 147 00:10:20,916 --> 00:10:22,916 Speaker 5: and so when my Chreece went in there, they said 148 00:10:22,996 --> 00:10:24,556 Speaker 5: she's not going to be here for a few hours. 149 00:10:24,596 --> 00:10:27,076 Speaker 5: And apparently from what I hear is my treet sat 150 00:10:27,076 --> 00:10:29,276 Speaker 5: there and waited for the professor to come so for 151 00:10:29,796 --> 00:10:30,796 Speaker 5: whatever amount of time. 152 00:10:31,676 --> 00:10:34,476 Speaker 1: When the professor returned to her office, she found my 153 00:10:34,596 --> 00:10:38,716 Speaker 1: Trees in an elevated state, talking excitedly about publishing her 154 00:10:38,796 --> 00:10:43,116 Speaker 1: journals as a book. Recognizing something was wrong, the professor 155 00:10:43,196 --> 00:10:45,516 Speaker 1: tried to find someone to help my Trees. 156 00:10:46,476 --> 00:10:51,476 Speaker 5: And so that professor actually walked my Trees to another 157 00:10:51,516 --> 00:10:55,836 Speaker 5: professor who was a clinical psychologist, walked her to that 158 00:10:56,116 --> 00:11:00,676 Speaker 5: psychologist's office. And my Terce was apparently not happy with that, 159 00:11:01,116 --> 00:11:03,316 Speaker 5: and so my Treece at that point said, well, I 160 00:11:03,356 --> 00:11:04,996 Speaker 5: got to go. I'm going to go hang out with 161 00:11:05,036 --> 00:11:10,116 Speaker 5: my friends, and so she ran off left campus. 162 00:11:10,236 --> 00:11:12,676 Speaker 1: She stopped by her aunt's house, where she left some 163 00:11:12,716 --> 00:11:17,556 Speaker 1: flyers advertising her go go dancing. Then she set out 164 00:11:17,556 --> 00:11:18,196 Speaker 1: for Malibu. 165 00:11:19,316 --> 00:11:21,036 Speaker 5: She did say the beach was calling her, so that 166 00:11:21,156 --> 00:11:22,916 Speaker 5: was one of the things that she had said earlier 167 00:11:22,916 --> 00:11:25,276 Speaker 5: in that day. I could see her driving out to 168 00:11:25,356 --> 00:11:27,956 Speaker 5: the beach. She was familiar with Pepperdine because she was 169 00:11:27,996 --> 00:11:30,796 Speaker 5: considering going there for grad school. I can't say whether 170 00:11:30,836 --> 00:11:33,156 Speaker 5: she had ever eaten that Joffrees of before, I don't know, 171 00:11:34,036 --> 00:11:35,916 Speaker 5: but I do know that she was familiar enough with 172 00:11:35,996 --> 00:11:38,836 Speaker 5: how to get to Malibu and the beach. 173 00:11:39,836 --> 00:11:42,516 Speaker 1: In her journals, my Terries wrote about the ocean as 174 00:11:42,556 --> 00:11:46,116 Speaker 1: a place of healing, a place of calm, she was 175 00:11:46,156 --> 00:12:16,476 Speaker 1: in pain and she thought Malibu would help. Can you 176 00:12:16,556 --> 00:12:20,036 Speaker 1: settle a long running question for us, Why is it 177 00:12:20,076 --> 00:12:22,316 Speaker 1: called Jeffrey's not Jeffreys. 178 00:12:23,356 --> 00:12:26,076 Speaker 3: You give me times people have had that argument. Settle 179 00:12:26,076 --> 00:12:27,836 Speaker 3: a bet, and I'm like, Okay, I know exactly what 180 00:12:27,916 --> 00:12:28,516 Speaker 3: you're talking about. 181 00:12:29,356 --> 00:12:32,676 Speaker 1: This is jeff Peterson. He owns Jeoffrey's Malibu. 182 00:12:33,756 --> 00:12:39,716 Speaker 3: Jeoffrey and Harvey Baskin started Jeffreys in nineteen eighty three. Yes, 183 00:12:39,796 --> 00:12:44,836 Speaker 3: it should be pronounced Jeffreys, but his name was Jeoffrey. 184 00:12:44,996 --> 00:12:47,956 Speaker 1: Jeff lives in a big McMansion in Malibu. When I 185 00:12:47,996 --> 00:12:49,556 Speaker 1: went to see him, he was in the middle of 186 00:12:49,596 --> 00:12:52,516 Speaker 1: a divorce. The place was half empty, and his two 187 00:12:52,556 --> 00:12:56,076 Speaker 1: gigantic dogs were jumping all over the place. He told 188 00:12:56,076 --> 00:12:58,156 Speaker 1: me he came to la in the late eighties to 189 00:12:58,156 --> 00:13:01,916 Speaker 1: be an actor and started busing tables at Jeffreys. Eventually 190 00:13:02,116 --> 00:13:02,956 Speaker 1: he bought the place. 191 00:13:03,476 --> 00:13:07,316 Speaker 3: Lucky for me, I'm a terrible actor. Fail at one 192 00:13:07,356 --> 00:13:08,996 Speaker 3: thing to do well at something else. 193 00:13:10,956 --> 00:13:15,876 Speaker 1: Jeffreys is a Malibu institution. I think tourists, aging celebrities 194 00:13:16,076 --> 00:13:19,716 Speaker 1: and a few Malibu regulars sipping cocktails and eating food 195 00:13:19,796 --> 00:13:21,716 Speaker 1: that hasn't changed since the eighties. 196 00:13:22,996 --> 00:13:25,596 Speaker 3: Well, it sits along like a cliff overlooking the ocean, 197 00:13:25,956 --> 00:13:30,716 Speaker 3: and it's surrounded by gardens and water fountains and fire pits. 198 00:13:30,996 --> 00:13:33,516 Speaker 3: I mean, I was talking to Chuck Woolery one time, 199 00:13:33,556 --> 00:13:36,476 Speaker 3: the old dating game guy. I was Love Connection, one 200 00:13:36,516 --> 00:13:39,196 Speaker 3: of those things, and he was at the restaurant filming something, 201 00:13:39,276 --> 00:13:41,316 Speaker 3: and he said, you know what, this was the number 202 00:13:41,316 --> 00:13:43,476 Speaker 3: one place that men would always say they take their 203 00:13:43,556 --> 00:13:48,236 Speaker 3: dates because it's so romantic and relaxing. So there's a 204 00:13:48,276 --> 00:13:51,436 Speaker 3: lot of anniversaries and dates and birthdays and special occasions. 205 00:13:52,276 --> 00:13:55,516 Speaker 1: It's a celebrity clubhouse. The art on the walls is 206 00:13:55,556 --> 00:13:58,836 Speaker 1: made by patrons like Clint Eastwood and John Travolta. 207 00:13:59,796 --> 00:14:02,276 Speaker 3: Yes, we get our celebrities. I used to wait on 208 00:14:02,676 --> 00:14:05,436 Speaker 3: Redford back in the day. Nicest man in the world. 209 00:14:05,956 --> 00:14:09,076 Speaker 3: What a class act. So we get a combination of both, 210 00:14:09,436 --> 00:14:11,476 Speaker 3: and we get presidents. So we get. 211 00:14:11,316 --> 00:14:17,036 Speaker 1: Everybody in depositions they gave later. Just about everyone who 212 00:14:17,156 --> 00:14:20,036 Speaker 1: interacted with my Treece at the restaurant said they noticed 213 00:14:20,036 --> 00:14:23,596 Speaker 1: that something was wrong with her. The valet, for instance, 214 00:14:24,156 --> 00:14:26,676 Speaker 1: he says he found my Treees sitting in his car 215 00:14:27,156 --> 00:14:30,116 Speaker 1: rifling through his CDs when he asked her what she 216 00:14:30,236 --> 00:14:35,956 Speaker 1: was doing. She replied, it's subliminal, and the hostess, she says, 217 00:14:35,996 --> 00:14:38,036 Speaker 1: my Trees got up from the table where she'd been 218 00:14:38,076 --> 00:14:42,316 Speaker 1: seated alone and joined a party of seven. Hi, sorry, 219 00:14:42,356 --> 00:14:44,996 Speaker 1: I'm late. Can I sit next to you? She asked 220 00:14:44,996 --> 00:14:49,076 Speaker 1: one of the strangers. From what these witnesses said later, 221 00:14:49,436 --> 00:14:54,756 Speaker 1: my Rice was pretty amusing, chatty, spirited, and zany, talking 222 00:14:54,756 --> 00:14:57,756 Speaker 1: about her fascination with the number eight and her plans 223 00:14:57,756 --> 00:15:02,596 Speaker 1: to move to Hawaii, and of course Michael Jackson. In 224 00:15:02,676 --> 00:15:06,836 Speaker 1: her deposition, the hostess stated, quote, at this point, I 225 00:15:06,916 --> 00:15:09,996 Speaker 1: did not make too much of the situation because during 226 00:15:10,036 --> 00:15:13,196 Speaker 1: my time working in Malibu, I had encountered lots of 227 00:15:13,236 --> 00:15:17,916 Speaker 1: people who were off in their behavior and personalities. Unquote. 228 00:15:19,356 --> 00:15:22,716 Speaker 1: About an hour after my terse walked into Jeoffrey's, she 229 00:15:22,756 --> 00:15:27,236 Speaker 1: walked out past the hostess stand to the valet. There 230 00:15:27,276 --> 00:15:33,116 Speaker 1: was just one problem. She hadn't paid her bill. In 231 00:15:33,156 --> 00:15:36,356 Speaker 1: his deposition, the manager says he confronted my Rise in 232 00:15:36,396 --> 00:15:39,276 Speaker 1: the parking lot. When she said she couldn't pay, he 233 00:15:39,316 --> 00:15:43,276 Speaker 1: took her back inside. He asked her to empty her pockets, 234 00:15:43,476 --> 00:15:45,716 Speaker 1: thinking there might be a credit card or some cash 235 00:15:45,796 --> 00:15:50,476 Speaker 1: in there. She pulled out a joint. Instead, the manager 236 00:15:50,516 --> 00:15:51,756 Speaker 1: called Jeff, the owner. 237 00:15:52,796 --> 00:15:56,156 Speaker 3: I can remember that night. I remember I was sitting 238 00:15:56,196 --> 00:15:58,956 Speaker 3: on a couch, not this couch, but another couch right here. 239 00:15:59,356 --> 00:16:01,356 Speaker 3: I was sucking a fair flew down. I had a 240 00:16:01,396 --> 00:16:05,196 Speaker 3: cold for the best of my recollection. Calls me up. 241 00:16:05,556 --> 00:16:08,316 Speaker 3: He tells me there's a lady there. They don't know 242 00:16:08,316 --> 00:16:11,956 Speaker 3: if something's wrong with her, if she's mentally ill, if 243 00:16:11,956 --> 00:16:14,916 Speaker 3: she's drunk, if she's high, she's only had one drink, 244 00:16:15,556 --> 00:16:18,556 Speaker 3: and she's talking in gibberish, and he doesn't know what 245 00:16:18,636 --> 00:16:18,956 Speaker 3: to do. 246 00:16:20,356 --> 00:16:24,196 Speaker 1: According to law enforcement documents, when the manager confronted my 247 00:16:24,316 --> 00:16:28,036 Speaker 1: Terse about paying her bill, she said quote that she 248 00:16:28,196 --> 00:16:30,516 Speaker 1: was from Mars and that she was going to have 249 00:16:30,596 --> 00:16:32,396 Speaker 1: sex with him unquote. 250 00:16:33,436 --> 00:16:36,116 Speaker 3: So I think the managers, really they just wanted to 251 00:16:36,156 --> 00:16:38,796 Speaker 3: help her, because the message I got from her was 252 00:16:38,956 --> 00:16:41,436 Speaker 3: that she was a nice, sweet she wasn't threatening, she 253 00:16:41,516 --> 00:16:47,516 Speaker 3: wasn't mean, but something was just very wrong. One of 254 00:16:47,556 --> 00:16:49,636 Speaker 3: the concerns was that we couldn't let her go that 255 00:16:49,756 --> 00:16:52,756 Speaker 3: night without calling for help, because if you let a 256 00:16:52,796 --> 00:16:56,476 Speaker 3: person who's obviously something's wrong with them, and like I said, 257 00:16:56,516 --> 00:16:58,196 Speaker 3: I didn't know if it was drugs or alcohol or 258 00:16:58,196 --> 00:17:01,156 Speaker 3: mental illness. If you let a person go and give 259 00:17:01,236 --> 00:17:03,516 Speaker 3: them their car keys and send them out under the 260 00:17:03,596 --> 00:17:07,316 Speaker 3: road and they run over a child or hit a family, 261 00:17:07,916 --> 00:17:10,556 Speaker 3: then people ask you the question and why do would 262 00:17:10,596 --> 00:17:11,516 Speaker 3: you let this person go? 263 00:17:14,396 --> 00:17:17,676 Speaker 1: At eight thirty pm, the manager told the bartender to 264 00:17:17,836 --> 00:17:20,636 Speaker 1: call nine to one one. 265 00:17:20,156 --> 00:17:22,036 Speaker 6: Loss Show Station deputy for Left I can help you. 266 00:17:22,236 --> 00:17:26,636 Speaker 7: Hi, I'm calling from Jeffrey's Restaurant, Nalibu. We have a 267 00:17:26,836 --> 00:17:29,476 Speaker 7: guest here who is refusing to pay her bill, and 268 00:17:29,916 --> 00:17:32,316 Speaker 7: you think she may She sounds really crazy. 269 00:17:32,356 --> 00:17:32,796 Speaker 8: She may be on. 270 00:17:32,836 --> 00:17:33,676 Speaker 9: Drugs or something. 271 00:17:34,556 --> 00:17:35,716 Speaker 7: We are wondering if something to come. 272 00:17:35,636 --> 00:17:38,836 Speaker 6: By and pick her up in Is she a white, Black, 273 00:17:38,876 --> 00:17:39,676 Speaker 6: Asian Hispanic? 274 00:17:40,036 --> 00:17:43,276 Speaker 7: She's young black girls, probably in her twenties. 275 00:17:44,796 --> 00:17:46,716 Speaker 10: Is she with anybody else, No, it's just her. 276 00:17:47,876 --> 00:17:52,356 Speaker 1: Twenty minutes later, three Lost Hill's deputies arrived at Jeffrey's. 277 00:17:53,076 --> 00:17:57,996 Speaker 1: Now the equation changed. The deputy searched my Teresa's car, 278 00:17:58,396 --> 00:18:01,316 Speaker 1: supposedly looking for a form of payment, and found it 279 00:18:01,356 --> 00:18:05,356 Speaker 1: was a mess full of CDs, clothes, and shoes. It 280 00:18:05,476 --> 00:18:08,276 Speaker 1: was so bad they thought maybe she'd been living out 281 00:18:08,276 --> 00:18:12,276 Speaker 1: of it, which was pretty accurate. In the trunk they 282 00:18:12,316 --> 00:18:15,636 Speaker 1: found some handles, of vodka, a half drunk bottle of tequila, 283 00:18:16,116 --> 00:18:19,196 Speaker 1: and half a case of beer, and between the two 284 00:18:19,196 --> 00:18:23,236 Speaker 1: front seats they found a small bag of weed. The 285 00:18:23,316 --> 00:18:25,836 Speaker 1: valet asked a deputy what was wrong with my Trees. 286 00:18:26,876 --> 00:18:30,196 Speaker 1: He replied that she was quote a ding, which is 287 00:18:30,316 --> 00:18:35,476 Speaker 1: cop speak for mentally ill. With the deputies, my Treuce 288 00:18:35,636 --> 00:18:41,076 Speaker 1: was lovely. Later, according to investigation documents, they said that 289 00:18:41,156 --> 00:18:46,276 Speaker 1: while she quote seemed slightly embarrassed, Miss Richardson was cooperative 290 00:18:46,436 --> 00:18:51,916 Speaker 1: and polite unquote. The deputies gave her a field sobriety test, 291 00:18:52,476 --> 00:18:57,676 Speaker 1: which she passed. My Trees was trained at keeping up appearances. 292 00:18:58,196 --> 00:19:00,476 Speaker 1: She was afraid of what was happening to her mind, 293 00:19:00,956 --> 00:19:03,036 Speaker 1: and she was in the midst of a crisis that 294 00:19:03,156 --> 00:19:06,516 Speaker 1: was altering her sense of reality. When they asked her 295 00:19:06,556 --> 00:19:12,716 Speaker 1: if she had a history of psychiatric problems, she said no. Still, 296 00:19:13,036 --> 00:19:16,036 Speaker 1: she had to pay that bill. The hostess asked my 297 00:19:16,356 --> 00:19:19,596 Speaker 1: Es if there was anyone she could call. My Rice 298 00:19:19,676 --> 00:19:22,916 Speaker 1: gave her the number of her great grandmother, Mildred Harris. 299 00:19:23,676 --> 00:19:25,916 Speaker 1: The hostess called her and asked her if she could 300 00:19:25,956 --> 00:19:28,076 Speaker 1: come to the restaurant and take care of the bill. 301 00:19:29,156 --> 00:19:31,796 Speaker 1: Jeoffrey's apparently had a policy, and they wouldn't take a 302 00:19:31,836 --> 00:19:35,036 Speaker 1: credit card over the phone. I'm ninety one years old, 303 00:19:35,036 --> 00:19:39,836 Speaker 1: Miss Harris said, I can't drive to Malibu. Then my 304 00:19:39,956 --> 00:19:43,636 Speaker 1: Teres's mother, Latis, called the restaurant and spoke to a manager. 305 00:19:44,356 --> 00:19:48,236 Speaker 1: Investigation documents state that Latisse told the manager her daughter 306 00:19:48,316 --> 00:19:51,316 Speaker 1: had quote been spending time with persons of whom she 307 00:19:51,356 --> 00:19:54,756 Speaker 1: did not approve end quote needed to learn a lesson 308 00:19:54,836 --> 00:19:58,916 Speaker 1: and be taken to jail. My Teresa's offense, dine and 309 00:19:59,036 --> 00:20:04,036 Speaker 1: dash or defrauding an innkeeper was misdemeanor petty theft. That's 310 00:20:04,076 --> 00:20:07,316 Speaker 1: typically a citation, not a crime for which a person 311 00:20:07,396 --> 00:20:11,756 Speaker 1: usually gets taken into custody. But the Jeoffrey's management didn't 312 00:20:11,756 --> 00:20:14,796 Speaker 1: want my Trees leaving in her car. The cops told 313 00:20:14,796 --> 00:20:16,756 Speaker 1: the manager that if he wanted them to take my 314 00:20:16,836 --> 00:20:20,156 Speaker 1: Teres away, the manager would have to make a citizen's arrest. 315 00:20:21,636 --> 00:20:25,076 Speaker 1: Here's how Jeff Peterson, the owner of Jeoffrey's, explains it. 316 00:20:26,356 --> 00:20:30,516 Speaker 3: So what happened was and excuse my dogs there coming 317 00:20:30,556 --> 00:20:33,076 Speaker 3: in the room now. The only way that we were 318 00:20:33,156 --> 00:20:36,076 Speaker 3: able to get her help. The deputy told us, you 319 00:20:36,196 --> 00:20:37,836 Speaker 3: have to charge. We have to be able to take 320 00:20:37,836 --> 00:20:40,996 Speaker 3: her away on something because we didn't defrauding that came 321 00:20:41,036 --> 00:20:43,116 Speaker 3: from them, So they told us, this is what you 322 00:20:43,156 --> 00:20:44,956 Speaker 3: need to do for us to be able to get 323 00:20:44,956 --> 00:20:45,316 Speaker 3: her help. 324 00:20:46,196 --> 00:20:50,076 Speaker 1: There was another option, though, the deputies could have put 325 00:20:50,156 --> 00:20:54,276 Speaker 1: my Rise on a seventy two hour psychiatric hold, also 326 00:20:54,476 --> 00:20:58,716 Speaker 1: known as a fifty one fifty. Jeff says he had 327 00:20:58,796 --> 00:20:59,596 Speaker 1: no idea. 328 00:21:00,516 --> 00:21:03,636 Speaker 3: If I knew that there was other ways, like if 329 00:21:03,636 --> 00:21:05,156 Speaker 3: she could be a charge on a fifty one to 330 00:21:05,156 --> 00:21:07,916 Speaker 3: fifty and take infremntal evaluation and we didn't have to 331 00:21:07,956 --> 00:21:10,996 Speaker 3: do that, then absolutely, why the heck would I want 332 00:21:10,996 --> 00:21:13,716 Speaker 3: a charger because it has never been about eighty nine dollars. 333 00:21:14,636 --> 00:21:17,756 Speaker 1: The Lost Tail's deputies executed a citizen's arrest on the 334 00:21:17,796 --> 00:21:20,956 Speaker 1: dine and dash charge, and also charged my Trees with 335 00:21:21,036 --> 00:21:25,156 Speaker 1: another misdemeanor for the pot in her car. Everyone, even 336 00:21:25,196 --> 00:21:28,836 Speaker 1: her mother, seemed to agree she'd be better off in custody, 337 00:21:30,156 --> 00:21:33,756 Speaker 1: so Anthony Lrero, the arresting officer, decided to hard book 338 00:21:33,796 --> 00:21:37,556 Speaker 1: her at the Lost Tail Sheriff's station. The justification he 339 00:21:37,596 --> 00:21:40,396 Speaker 1: gave his superiors is that he was worried about her, 340 00:21:41,036 --> 00:21:44,036 Speaker 1: that she was quote a little ditzy, and he was 341 00:21:44,436 --> 00:21:49,156 Speaker 1: uneasy about just letting her go. According to internal station 342 00:21:49,276 --> 00:21:53,156 Speaker 1: correspondence written after my Trese was officially a missing person 343 00:21:53,396 --> 00:21:59,836 Speaker 1: or MP quote, deputies uncomfortable with field release, no articulated reason, 344 00:22:00,076 --> 00:22:06,276 Speaker 1: instinctive feeling concern for MP's welfare. Lrero put my Trease 345 00:22:06,316 --> 00:22:08,316 Speaker 1: in the back of a squad car and they drove 346 00:22:08,436 --> 00:22:13,436 Speaker 1: through Malibu Canyon to the station about thirteen miles away. Meanwhile, 347 00:22:13,636 --> 00:22:15,836 Speaker 1: her car was taken to a tow yard near Pacific 348 00:22:15,876 --> 00:22:20,276 Speaker 1: Coast Highway, where it was impounded. While my Trace was 349 00:22:20,316 --> 00:22:24,836 Speaker 1: in transit, deputies were preparing for her arrival. One of 350 00:22:24,836 --> 00:22:27,556 Speaker 1: the deputies who had responded to the Jeoffrey's call typed 351 00:22:27,556 --> 00:22:31,796 Speaker 1: a message to another deputy over the interdepartmental computer system 352 00:22:32,236 --> 00:22:36,876 Speaker 1: at station in fifteen refem search. He wrote, what'd you get? 353 00:22:37,076 --> 00:22:39,996 Speaker 1: His colleague typed back, defrauding an innkeeper? 354 00:22:40,356 --> 00:22:40,796 Speaker 2: Lol? 355 00:22:41,596 --> 00:22:45,516 Speaker 1: What did she leave without paying? Tried but failed, then 356 00:22:45,556 --> 00:22:49,436 Speaker 1: had no means to pay? Citizens arrest? Why didn't you 357 00:22:49,476 --> 00:22:54,316 Speaker 1: help assist her out? This exchange is callous and it 358 00:22:54,396 --> 00:22:59,436 Speaker 1: has uncomfortable racial undertones. My Trace was a black female 359 00:22:59,796 --> 00:23:03,956 Speaker 1: alone and in crisis in Malibu. For many, her race 360 00:23:03,996 --> 00:23:06,436 Speaker 1: would be the defining factor in what happened to her, 361 00:23:07,396 --> 00:23:11,076 Speaker 1: she should have been granted extra protection. But that's not 362 00:23:11,156 --> 00:23:15,876 Speaker 1: what happened. What happened is that sometime on that long 363 00:23:16,036 --> 00:23:19,756 Speaker 1: dark drive from the restaurant to the station, the concern 364 00:23:19,836 --> 00:23:22,876 Speaker 1: for my Teres's well being that had justified her arrest 365 00:23:22,956 --> 00:23:40,116 Speaker 1: in the first place seemed to vanish. 366 00:23:40,196 --> 00:23:42,436 Speaker 9: I am calling. I'm a little fred that right now. 367 00:23:42,756 --> 00:23:46,196 Speaker 9: Understand my daughter is being brought into the station. My 368 00:23:46,316 --> 00:23:49,676 Speaker 9: Terce richard'son. Has they made it to the station yet? 369 00:23:49,756 --> 00:23:50,876 Speaker 9: And she's been booked? 370 00:23:51,836 --> 00:23:52,156 Speaker 6: Okay? 371 00:23:52,236 --> 00:23:53,796 Speaker 11: Is do you know where she's coming from? 372 00:23:54,956 --> 00:23:59,196 Speaker 9: It's some restaurant out in Malibu and I didn't even 373 00:23:59,236 --> 00:24:00,796 Speaker 9: think to get the name the manager. 374 00:24:01,476 --> 00:24:03,716 Speaker 11: The only place we have somebody that's in custody that 375 00:24:03,756 --> 00:24:06,076 Speaker 11: they just announced on the radio that they're coming up 376 00:24:06,076 --> 00:24:09,076 Speaker 11: as from Jeffrey's in Jotha Highway. 377 00:24:09,836 --> 00:24:11,196 Speaker 6: It's the only female. 378 00:24:10,876 --> 00:24:12,796 Speaker 11: That's bringing brought up to the station as we speak. 379 00:24:12,836 --> 00:24:14,956 Speaker 11: They actually just put it on the radio right before 380 00:24:14,996 --> 00:24:15,436 Speaker 11: you call them. 381 00:24:16,196 --> 00:24:18,756 Speaker 1: This is a recording of a call Latise Sutton made 382 00:24:18,796 --> 00:24:21,116 Speaker 1: to Lost Hill Station on the night of the arrest. 383 00:24:21,636 --> 00:24:24,876 Speaker 1: It was published on the Internet shortly after my Trieste disappeared. 384 00:24:25,836 --> 00:24:30,036 Speaker 9: Okay, okay, I'm her mother, and are you guys want 385 00:24:30,076 --> 00:24:32,316 Speaker 9: to book her and then release her on her own 386 00:24:32,756 --> 00:24:36,476 Speaker 9: RECOGNI tonight because it's just dark. She doesn't have a car, 387 00:24:36,516 --> 00:24:39,396 Speaker 9: and I don't want her wandering out. I'm totally just 388 00:24:39,716 --> 00:24:42,436 Speaker 9: taken aback because it is so out of character for her. 389 00:24:43,076 --> 00:24:46,196 Speaker 9: And you'll see when she comes in she's well spoken. 390 00:24:46,516 --> 00:24:48,236 Speaker 9: I think the only way I will come and get 391 00:24:48,276 --> 00:24:50,236 Speaker 9: her tonight is if you guys are going to release 392 00:24:50,236 --> 00:24:50,876 Speaker 9: her tonight. 393 00:24:51,796 --> 00:24:56,116 Speaker 1: It was already late, almost ten pm. Latis lived at 394 00:24:56,196 --> 00:24:59,516 Speaker 1: least an hour away from the station. She and Larry 395 00:24:59,516 --> 00:25:02,076 Speaker 1: weren't living together at the time, and she couldn't leave 396 00:25:02,116 --> 00:25:03,476 Speaker 1: their daughter home alone. 397 00:25:04,316 --> 00:25:06,796 Speaker 9: It's going to be held in custody for some type 398 00:25:06,796 --> 00:25:10,316 Speaker 9: of arraignment tomorrow. Then I will wait until tomorrow. You 399 00:25:10,396 --> 00:25:12,596 Speaker 9: definitely have no place, you know. I mean, she's not 400 00:25:12,716 --> 00:25:15,796 Speaker 9: from that area, and I would hate to wake up 401 00:25:15,796 --> 00:25:19,076 Speaker 9: to a morning report so lost somewhere with her head 402 00:25:19,196 --> 00:25:21,156 Speaker 9: chopped off. So I guess I would have to come 403 00:25:21,156 --> 00:25:22,036 Speaker 9: and get her. Oh my god. 404 00:25:22,276 --> 00:25:23,276 Speaker 6: Yeah, we're in a gray hose. 405 00:25:23,276 --> 00:25:24,996 Speaker 11: The only thing is at least in the station here 406 00:25:24,996 --> 00:25:28,836 Speaker 11: she will be separated, so nobody's going to be with her. Certainly, 407 00:25:28,956 --> 00:25:30,636 Speaker 11: that's you know the first thing, so you don't have 408 00:25:30,676 --> 00:25:31,716 Speaker 11: to worry about her safety. 409 00:25:32,476 --> 00:25:35,516 Speaker 9: Oh yeah, No, I feel safe with her being in industity. 410 00:25:35,596 --> 00:25:39,356 Speaker 9: It's being released, but I'm worried about it. It's crazy out here. 411 00:25:44,996 --> 00:25:47,876 Speaker 1: A short time later, the squad car carrying my Terse 412 00:25:48,116 --> 00:25:51,516 Speaker 1: arrived at Lost Hill Station. She was taken to a 413 00:25:51,516 --> 00:25:54,516 Speaker 1: booking cell, where she was searched and made to hand 414 00:25:54,556 --> 00:25:58,516 Speaker 1: over her possessions. She was given a medical and mental 415 00:25:58,556 --> 00:26:01,876 Speaker 1: health assessment and a live scan for fingerprints and other 416 00:26:01,996 --> 00:26:06,996 Speaker 1: identifying details like her tattoos, to submit to law enforcement databases. 417 00:26:09,116 --> 00:26:14,276 Speaker 1: Pres my Terce was always radiant, eyes lit up, dazzling smile. 418 00:26:15,276 --> 00:26:17,916 Speaker 1: In the mugshot taken at Lost Hill Station that night, 419 00:26:18,196 --> 00:26:21,716 Speaker 1: she looks like a different person. Her hair is messy, 420 00:26:22,196 --> 00:26:27,156 Speaker 1: her skin looks waxy and tired, but really it's her eyes. 421 00:26:27,956 --> 00:26:34,036 Speaker 1: The light has gone out. Lost Hills is what's known 422 00:26:34,076 --> 00:26:37,516 Speaker 1: as a slow station. That night, there was just one 423 00:26:37,516 --> 00:26:41,916 Speaker 1: other person in custody. My name is Charmaine Murray Henderson. 424 00:26:42,716 --> 00:26:45,396 Speaker 1: I recently met Charmaine in the courtyard of a motel 425 00:26:45,436 --> 00:26:46,276 Speaker 1: where she was staying. 426 00:26:47,396 --> 00:26:49,556 Speaker 12: It was just me and Matries. I don't know how 427 00:26:49,556 --> 00:26:51,156 Speaker 12: big the station was, but I know. It was like 428 00:26:51,196 --> 00:26:53,756 Speaker 12: a little small station where they help people. They say, 429 00:26:53,956 --> 00:26:56,676 Speaker 12: going for like duy. They go in until you get 430 00:26:57,436 --> 00:27:00,076 Speaker 12: well enough to drive, you know, leave again like they 431 00:27:00,396 --> 00:27:01,756 Speaker 12: have hold of self for that type. 432 00:27:01,796 --> 00:27:01,956 Speaker 9: You know. 433 00:27:03,316 --> 00:27:06,556 Speaker 1: It was just a small it's a small station. That night, 434 00:27:06,676 --> 00:27:09,876 Speaker 1: Charmaine said she'd been picked up in the valley for soliciting. 435 00:27:10,956 --> 00:27:14,076 Speaker 1: Her memory's foggy, it's been a long time and over 436 00:27:14,076 --> 00:27:17,316 Speaker 1: the years she's had multiple strokes, but she does remember 437 00:27:17,396 --> 00:27:19,916 Speaker 1: that my Ruse was already in the cell when she arrived. 438 00:27:21,116 --> 00:27:23,516 Speaker 1: I mean she was there before me. 439 00:27:24,196 --> 00:27:26,796 Speaker 12: And I walked in cause she was standing like in 440 00:27:26,836 --> 00:27:29,396 Speaker 12: a doorway, like I need to sit down. I'm very tired. 441 00:27:29,396 --> 00:27:31,196 Speaker 12: I want to sit down. It was just me and 442 00:27:31,236 --> 00:27:33,876 Speaker 12: her and the cell and she was just by the doorway, 443 00:27:33,916 --> 00:27:35,476 Speaker 12: and I was like, excuse, what can I get anced 444 00:27:35,476 --> 00:27:36,076 Speaker 12: I can sit down. 445 00:27:37,116 --> 00:27:42,956 Speaker 1: Charmaine noticed right away that my Ruse was acting strange. 446 00:27:41,716 --> 00:27:45,196 Speaker 12: From some of her like her actions and stuff. I 447 00:27:45,196 --> 00:27:48,116 Speaker 12: could tell that she was not okay to be by herself. 448 00:27:48,676 --> 00:27:50,196 Speaker 12: I don't a know what kind of mental state she 449 00:27:50,276 --> 00:27:52,516 Speaker 12: was in, Like some people ain't okay to be by theirself. 450 00:27:52,876 --> 00:27:54,436 Speaker 1: She seemed kind of vulnerable to you. 451 00:27:54,876 --> 00:27:55,956 Speaker 3: Yeah, very vulnerable. 452 00:27:56,356 --> 00:28:00,956 Speaker 1: Yeah, I read somewhere that you requested to change cells. 453 00:28:01,636 --> 00:28:02,956 Speaker 1: Do you remember that? Was she being. 454 00:28:02,876 --> 00:28:07,276 Speaker 12: Annoying because she was like she when I understand her situation, 455 00:28:07,516 --> 00:28:11,036 Speaker 12: like I'm trying to sleep if she gonna keep knocking 456 00:28:11,076 --> 00:28:12,516 Speaker 12: at the door trying to like. 457 00:28:12,876 --> 00:28:14,916 Speaker 1: You know, she wanted she wanted out. 458 00:28:15,316 --> 00:28:16,676 Speaker 2: Come on, who arrest someone? 459 00:28:16,716 --> 00:28:18,556 Speaker 12: Did you get a ticket for that? So you can 460 00:28:18,596 --> 00:28:20,716 Speaker 12: go to jail for not betting to pay your meal? 461 00:28:21,236 --> 00:28:23,716 Speaker 12: Who arrest someone for that? So it was like they 462 00:28:23,796 --> 00:28:26,516 Speaker 12: went overboard with it, and I felt I failed her. 463 00:28:27,116 --> 00:28:28,996 Speaker 12: So she was like she wanted she wanted out. 464 00:28:29,436 --> 00:28:31,076 Speaker 1: She's like banging on the door, begging her. 465 00:28:31,036 --> 00:28:33,036 Speaker 12: Door, like trying to get deputy, like cite me out 466 00:28:33,716 --> 00:28:35,076 Speaker 12: or let me know my charges. 467 00:28:35,996 --> 00:28:39,036 Speaker 1: Around eleven forty five PM, when it was determined that 468 00:28:39,036 --> 00:28:42,596 Speaker 1: my Trees had no outstanding warrants, the jailer gave her 469 00:28:42,636 --> 00:28:46,836 Speaker 1: the citation and told her she could go. She asked 470 00:28:46,876 --> 00:28:48,796 Speaker 1: my Trees if someone was going to pick her up. 471 00:28:50,196 --> 00:28:52,516 Speaker 1: My Trees said she hadn't been able to reach anyone. 472 00:28:53,276 --> 00:28:56,236 Speaker 1: According to the Sheriff's Department, she had tried calling her 473 00:28:56,276 --> 00:29:00,916 Speaker 1: great grandmother, Mildred Harris, with no luck. The jailer later 474 00:29:00,956 --> 00:29:03,276 Speaker 1: said she offered to let my Tree stay the night 475 00:29:03,556 --> 00:29:06,436 Speaker 1: in an unlocked cell or wait in the front lobby 476 00:29:06,516 --> 00:29:10,076 Speaker 1: until she got a ride, but she declined, saying she 477 00:29:10,116 --> 00:29:14,236 Speaker 1: had to go meet friends. Charmaine was in a different 478 00:29:14,276 --> 00:29:16,676 Speaker 1: cell at this point, but she says she could hear 479 00:29:16,716 --> 00:29:17,476 Speaker 1: what was going on. 480 00:29:18,796 --> 00:29:21,076 Speaker 12: I guess they cited her out, But when you cite 481 00:29:21,076 --> 00:29:23,236 Speaker 12: someone out, you still don't let them leave until they 482 00:29:23,316 --> 00:29:26,636 Speaker 12: didn't have knowledge of a ride or they have a 483 00:29:26,676 --> 00:29:29,196 Speaker 12: way to get somewhere. I mean, they can call a 484 00:29:29,236 --> 00:29:32,076 Speaker 12: calf on their own something like that. You know, they 485 00:29:32,116 --> 00:29:33,756 Speaker 12: wouldn't have released me in the middle of the night. 486 00:29:33,916 --> 00:29:37,076 Speaker 12: I mean I would hope not, you know, because it's 487 00:29:37,076 --> 00:29:37,996 Speaker 12: in the middle of nowhere. 488 00:29:39,076 --> 00:29:41,956 Speaker 1: It struck her as unusual and not okay. 489 00:29:42,916 --> 00:29:45,356 Speaker 12: When I seen the news, there was like, damn, that's 490 00:29:45,396 --> 00:29:47,156 Speaker 12: crazy because I was like in a cell with this 491 00:29:47,196 --> 00:29:50,916 Speaker 12: woman and I was saying she's missing. I was thinking like, damn, 492 00:29:50,956 --> 00:29:52,916 Speaker 12: if I would have got released like that could have 493 00:29:52,956 --> 00:29:53,236 Speaker 12: been me. 494 00:29:56,516 --> 00:30:00,356 Speaker 1: Over the following weeks, months, and years, the Los Angeles 495 00:30:00,436 --> 00:30:04,316 Speaker 1: County Sheriff's Department would repeatedly seek to justify the release 496 00:30:04,396 --> 00:30:08,156 Speaker 1: of my Terce Richardson saying that legally they did not 497 00:30:08,196 --> 00:30:12,196 Speaker 1: have the right to detain her. She had no outstanding warrants, 498 00:30:12,396 --> 00:30:16,476 Speaker 1: her infractions were misdemeanors, and she was not gravely disabled 499 00:30:16,596 --> 00:30:20,276 Speaker 1: or in immediate danger to herself or others. That's the 500 00:30:20,356 --> 00:30:22,956 Speaker 1: standard for a fifty one to fifty psychiatric hold. 501 00:30:24,116 --> 00:30:29,756 Speaker 8: That's bullshit, is what that is. That's bullshit. 502 00:30:30,796 --> 00:30:31,916 Speaker 1: Here's Hannah again. 503 00:30:33,156 --> 00:30:37,636 Speaker 8: A young woman by herself, drives to Malibu to go 504 00:30:37,716 --> 00:30:43,556 Speaker 8: to Joffrey's, an expensive restaurant in Malibu, by herself, claiming 505 00:30:43,636 --> 00:30:47,436 Speaker 8: she's there to avenge Michael Jackson's death, sits with people 506 00:30:47,556 --> 00:30:52,116 Speaker 8: she doesn't know, says weird things, gets arrested for her 507 00:30:52,396 --> 00:30:57,996 Speaker 8: own safety, goes to the police station. All of a sudden, 508 00:30:58,036 --> 00:31:02,516 Speaker 8: she's okay, that's bullshit. She wasn't okay. 509 00:31:04,196 --> 00:31:08,156 Speaker 1: My Teresa's unstable mental condition was the reason deputies had 510 00:31:08,156 --> 00:31:12,116 Speaker 1: taken her into custos in the first place. Remember, the 511 00:31:12,236 --> 00:31:15,956 Speaker 1: arresting deputy thought she was quote a little ditzy, and 512 00:31:15,996 --> 00:31:20,716 Speaker 1: he was uneasy about just letting her go. But once 513 00:31:20,756 --> 00:31:23,596 Speaker 1: she got to the station, law enforcement says, my ruse 514 00:31:23,716 --> 00:31:26,636 Speaker 1: was acting normal, so they had no reason to keep her. 515 00:31:27,196 --> 00:31:30,756 Speaker 1: In fact, they said they were legally obligated to release her. 516 00:31:32,116 --> 00:31:37,276 Speaker 1: Hannah says, that is just not possible. Anyone who interacted 517 00:31:37,276 --> 00:31:40,596 Speaker 1: with my Trees would have recognized that she was in crisis. 518 00:31:42,076 --> 00:31:45,956 Speaker 8: I understand that some people are thinking, oh, maybe she 519 00:31:46,076 --> 00:31:51,356 Speaker 8: was on drugs, or maybe that's what it was. For 520 00:31:51,436 --> 00:31:57,796 Speaker 8: me personally, it was a psychotic break that my Trace 521 00:31:58,036 --> 00:32:02,636 Speaker 8: was experiencing. The drive to Malibu, the Jeoffreys, the saying 522 00:32:02,756 --> 00:32:06,276 Speaker 8: she was meeting me, the talking about aliens and Michael 523 00:32:06,356 --> 00:32:13,836 Speaker 8: Jackson and all that. And it is without question anybody 524 00:32:14,036 --> 00:32:18,836 Speaker 8: that came into contact with my Trees, look at the mugshot. 525 00:32:19,236 --> 00:32:22,756 Speaker 8: Anybody who came into any contact with her. I don't 526 00:32:22,756 --> 00:32:27,476 Speaker 8: care who you are, family, neighbor, somebody who's walking past 527 00:32:27,516 --> 00:32:31,076 Speaker 8: her on the street. There is a zero percent chance 528 00:32:31,516 --> 00:32:37,316 Speaker 8: that they didn't know something was wrong with her mentally zero. 529 00:32:38,716 --> 00:32:42,316 Speaker 1: At twelve twenty five am, my Trace left Lost Hill Station. 530 00:32:42,996 --> 00:32:45,796 Speaker 1: She had no money, and her phone was in her car, 531 00:32:46,396 --> 00:32:49,796 Speaker 1: which was in a towyard ten miles away on the 532 00:32:49,836 --> 00:32:54,476 Speaker 1: other side of Malibu Canyon near Pacific Coast Highway. 533 00:32:55,156 --> 00:33:00,716 Speaker 8: Make it make sense, It doesn't make sense. At bare minimum, 534 00:33:00,716 --> 00:33:05,196 Speaker 8: they should have kept my Trees at the Sheriff's station 535 00:33:05,676 --> 00:33:09,236 Speaker 8: until morning, until her mom came or somebody came to 536 00:33:09,236 --> 00:33:11,596 Speaker 8: to come check on her and get her. She had nothing. 537 00:33:11,996 --> 00:33:15,116 Speaker 8: They knew she was mentally unwell, which is why she 538 00:33:15,196 --> 00:33:17,476 Speaker 8: was there in the first place. What they should have 539 00:33:17,516 --> 00:33:19,436 Speaker 8: done is placed her on a hold and taken her 540 00:33:19,436 --> 00:33:22,236 Speaker 8: to a psychiatric facility. But they can't do that because 541 00:33:22,276 --> 00:33:26,676 Speaker 8: they're claiming she was fine. They're lying. It's bullshit, and 542 00:33:26,716 --> 00:33:29,236 Speaker 8: if you care about my truths, you'll say what's true. 543 00:33:29,476 --> 00:33:33,036 Speaker 8: That's true. They're just trying to cover their own as 544 00:33:33,236 --> 00:33:35,916 Speaker 8: that's bullshit, and that really bothers me. 545 00:33:38,276 --> 00:33:40,956 Speaker 1: Once she left the station, my Trees had no way 546 00:33:40,996 --> 00:33:43,956 Speaker 1: to call anyone for help and no way for help 547 00:33:44,036 --> 00:33:48,156 Speaker 1: to find her. All of this was news to her mother, 548 00:33:49,076 --> 00:33:51,956 Speaker 1: who called the station around five twenty am on the 549 00:33:51,996 --> 00:33:55,396 Speaker 1: morning of the seventeenth and was horrified to learn that 550 00:33:55,516 --> 00:33:59,756 Speaker 1: her daughter was no longer there. She thought she had 551 00:33:59,756 --> 00:34:02,356 Speaker 1: an agreement with the cops that they would keep my 552 00:34:02,476 --> 00:34:07,596 Speaker 1: Trees overnight. Latisse was alarmed. My Trees had already been 553 00:34:07,596 --> 00:34:10,436 Speaker 1: out of custody for five hours and no one in 554 00:34:10,476 --> 00:34:14,396 Speaker 1: the family had heard from her. Fifteen minutes later, at 555 00:34:14,436 --> 00:34:18,116 Speaker 1: five thirty five am, Latiz called Lost Hill station again 556 00:34:18,476 --> 00:34:21,436 Speaker 1: to find out how to file a missing person's report. 557 00:34:23,276 --> 00:34:24,796 Speaker 6: Last Hield Station bomb gardener. 558 00:34:25,316 --> 00:34:28,316 Speaker 1: This recording of Latisa's call was released on the internet 559 00:34:28,396 --> 00:34:30,076 Speaker 1: shortly after My Trees disappeared. 560 00:34:31,036 --> 00:34:33,436 Speaker 9: Yes, Hi, my name is Latista and I called not 561 00:34:33,476 --> 00:34:36,076 Speaker 9: too long ago regarding my daughter. My Trees wouldn been 562 00:34:36,596 --> 00:34:40,156 Speaker 9: How long before a missing person's report can be filed 563 00:34:40,636 --> 00:34:42,596 Speaker 9: at the twenty four or forty eight hours? 564 00:34:43,156 --> 00:34:48,436 Speaker 6: Well, it depends on the circumstances. But I didn't take 565 00:34:48,436 --> 00:34:50,236 Speaker 6: your call, so I'm not familiar with it. Did she 566 00:34:50,396 --> 00:34:52,796 Speaker 6: just not return home after going out? 567 00:34:53,836 --> 00:34:56,356 Speaker 1: She explains that my Trees had been in custody at 568 00:34:56,356 --> 00:34:58,436 Speaker 1: Lost Hill Station and then released. 569 00:34:59,596 --> 00:35:02,316 Speaker 9: She was arrested last night. This is the first time 570 00:35:02,436 --> 00:35:08,716 Speaker 9: she's been arrested. She's in an unknown area she's never 571 00:35:08,756 --> 00:35:12,996 Speaker 9: been in. She got out a vehicle. Nobody can find her. 572 00:35:13,916 --> 00:35:18,236 Speaker 1: But the deputy doesn't seem overly concerned. He thinks Latist 573 00:35:18,236 --> 00:35:20,556 Speaker 1: can hold off on the missing person's report. 574 00:35:22,156 --> 00:35:25,956 Speaker 6: Yeah, normally we wouldn't. I wouldn't recommend doing one. 575 00:35:28,596 --> 00:35:32,076 Speaker 9: That soon, right, What is the time frame? 576 00:35:32,316 --> 00:35:32,516 Speaker 3: You know? 577 00:35:32,876 --> 00:35:36,276 Speaker 6: I guess probably twenty four hours would be reasonable. I mean, 578 00:35:36,636 --> 00:35:39,836 Speaker 6: if there would be some some mitigating factors. You know, 579 00:35:40,036 --> 00:35:43,716 Speaker 6: where you know, you would suspect maybe something. 580 00:35:45,356 --> 00:35:49,356 Speaker 9: Well, yeah, right, she doesn't know the area. She's never 581 00:35:49,436 --> 00:35:50,276 Speaker 9: been in your. 582 00:35:50,156 --> 00:35:52,196 Speaker 6: Area where you where does she live? 583 00:35:52,676 --> 00:35:54,636 Speaker 9: Is unfamiliar with that area? 584 00:35:54,716 --> 00:35:58,516 Speaker 6: Do you think she possibly could have gotten a bus home? 585 00:35:58,876 --> 00:36:03,236 Speaker 9: And listen, my child has never written a bus. No, 586 00:36:03,356 --> 00:36:06,236 Speaker 9: she would not know how to ride a bus. 587 00:36:06,396 --> 00:36:09,956 Speaker 6: I would probably wait till you know, early this morning, 588 00:36:10,116 --> 00:36:12,596 Speaker 6: and if she doesn't turn up, you can certainly call. 589 00:36:12,676 --> 00:36:14,396 Speaker 6: I don't suspect anything. 590 00:36:15,516 --> 00:36:21,236 Speaker 1: Bad happen, but latist does suspect something bad has happened. 591 00:36:21,876 --> 00:36:23,556 Speaker 1: So she decides to level with. 592 00:36:23,556 --> 00:36:28,476 Speaker 9: Him something something is obviously going on with her. Have 593 00:36:28,596 --> 00:36:32,076 Speaker 9: you tried to the jailer and yes, yes, yes, yes 594 00:36:32,116 --> 00:36:34,676 Speaker 9: I have. He said he tried to get her distabled. 595 00:36:34,716 --> 00:36:36,996 Speaker 9: Because she was an adult, they had to let her go. 596 00:36:37,596 --> 00:36:42,196 Speaker 9: I believe that she is highly depressed, and she she's 597 00:36:42,236 --> 00:36:43,276 Speaker 9: in a depressed state. 598 00:36:47,956 --> 00:36:51,236 Speaker 6: You know, it could be possible that maybe she I mean, 599 00:36:51,236 --> 00:36:54,396 Speaker 6: there's a lot of options and a lot of possibilities, 600 00:36:54,436 --> 00:36:58,036 Speaker 6: and I don't think all of them would be you know, 601 00:36:58,396 --> 00:37:02,956 Speaker 6: something dire. But I can certainly understand your fears, you know, 602 00:37:03,636 --> 00:37:04,916 Speaker 6: being your daughter and all that. 603 00:37:05,556 --> 00:37:08,236 Speaker 9: Well, I think she's suppressed. That's what happened. 604 00:37:08,276 --> 00:37:13,236 Speaker 6: Is that that's worth more than just her Okay, that and. 605 00:37:13,236 --> 00:37:15,596 Speaker 9: The fact that she's in an area where she doesn't 606 00:37:15,796 --> 00:37:16,796 Speaker 9: know where she's at. 607 00:37:16,956 --> 00:37:18,676 Speaker 6: It doesn't take medication at all. 608 00:37:19,476 --> 00:37:22,716 Speaker 9: No, she I believe this is a state that she's in 609 00:37:22,916 --> 00:37:26,516 Speaker 9: right now because of just the weird activities. 610 00:37:27,396 --> 00:37:29,476 Speaker 6: What's your name is? 611 00:37:29,836 --> 00:37:31,356 Speaker 9: Her name is my tree? 612 00:37:31,916 --> 00:37:32,836 Speaker 6: I'll rid. 613 00:37:39,036 --> 00:37:43,956 Speaker 1: In another hour around six thirty am. Bill and Karen Smith, 614 00:37:44,236 --> 00:37:47,476 Speaker 1: the couple in Montanito who spotted my trees in their backyard, 615 00:37:47,756 --> 00:37:52,636 Speaker 1: would call the cops office CAMPI. This is a recording 616 00:37:52,676 --> 00:37:54,916 Speaker 1: of that call, which was published online. 617 00:37:55,196 --> 00:37:58,076 Speaker 10: Yeah, I, hey, this is a Smith a cold Canyon. 618 00:37:58,076 --> 00:38:00,356 Speaker 10: We had a prower walking around through the backyard here, 619 00:38:00,436 --> 00:38:02,836 Speaker 10: but we don't know what the situation was. I don't 620 00:38:02,836 --> 00:38:03,996 Speaker 10: know if you have a union in the area, might 621 00:38:03,996 --> 00:38:05,276 Speaker 10: do a little drive by or something. 622 00:38:06,796 --> 00:38:09,716 Speaker 1: Okay, where's this that the Smith lived at the Tennis 623 00:38:09,716 --> 00:38:10,316 Speaker 1: Court House. 624 00:38:11,036 --> 00:38:14,236 Speaker 10: This is Cold Canyon like ont Cold and Money and Needle. 625 00:38:15,996 --> 00:38:18,636 Speaker 10: But it's in the back of the house, which is 626 00:38:18,676 --> 00:38:25,916 Speaker 10: right where wood Bluff hits the Cold Canyon. And we 627 00:38:25,956 --> 00:38:28,156 Speaker 10: just said, a strange woman walk up through the backyard here. 628 00:38:28,276 --> 00:38:30,316 Speaker 10: It is fairly large property, and she was sitting on 629 00:38:30,356 --> 00:38:32,156 Speaker 10: the steps right right on the back of the house. 630 00:38:32,196 --> 00:38:34,996 Speaker 10: Here this is kind of a circular driveway and the 631 00:38:34,996 --> 00:38:36,876 Speaker 10: big gates were closed, so we don't know where this 632 00:38:36,916 --> 00:38:37,676 Speaker 10: woman came from. 633 00:38:38,916 --> 00:38:42,356 Speaker 1: Their property, Smith said, connected to a network of trails 634 00:38:42,756 --> 00:38:44,516 Speaker 1: used by everyone in the neighborhood. 635 00:38:45,636 --> 00:38:47,996 Speaker 10: What she looked like white, black, and you know, a tall, 636 00:38:48,076 --> 00:38:52,876 Speaker 10: slim black woman with afro hair. While she was sitting down, 637 00:38:52,916 --> 00:38:54,556 Speaker 10: stretched out on the wooden steps in the back of 638 00:38:54,556 --> 00:38:56,076 Speaker 10: the house. Hard to tell, but does She looked like 639 00:38:56,116 --> 00:38:59,116 Speaker 10: she might have been medium to slightly tall, with a 640 00:38:59,116 --> 00:39:02,116 Speaker 10: big afrol hair, very skinny, and I think she was 641 00:39:02,156 --> 00:39:04,996 Speaker 10: wearing maybe jeans or tight pants with a T shirt. 642 00:39:05,516 --> 00:39:07,956 Speaker 10: You've never seen her there before, No, never, Nobody never 643 00:39:07,996 --> 00:39:09,756 Speaker 10: does that. I mean, the people hike on the trail 644 00:39:09,796 --> 00:39:11,516 Speaker 10: all the time, you know, when the trail goes through 645 00:39:11,516 --> 00:39:13,276 Speaker 10: our property, but we leave it open on purpose because 646 00:39:13,276 --> 00:39:15,036 Speaker 10: it's kind of a nice thing for horses and people. 647 00:39:15,556 --> 00:39:17,716 Speaker 6: And he said, she's laying across me. She wasn't laying 648 00:39:17,756 --> 00:39:18,636 Speaker 6: across the steps. 649 00:39:18,436 --> 00:39:20,916 Speaker 10: Or but she was sitting kind of sprawled out upon 650 00:39:21,036 --> 00:39:22,596 Speaker 10: these wooden steps in the back of the house right 651 00:39:22,596 --> 00:39:24,876 Speaker 10: against the back of the house. She since got up 652 00:39:24,876 --> 00:39:27,196 Speaker 10: and left. She since gone. Yeah, she's been gone about 653 00:39:27,196 --> 00:39:29,036 Speaker 10: five minutes now. But as we follow over, we thought 654 00:39:29,116 --> 00:39:31,636 Speaker 10: maybe a little drive by wouldn't be a bad idea. 655 00:39:31,796 --> 00:39:33,396 Speaker 6: And in what direction was she sheld have seen? 656 00:39:33,396 --> 00:39:33,516 Speaker 3: Who? 657 00:39:33,636 --> 00:39:37,516 Speaker 10: Never saw her? Once she left, she just disappeared. I 658 00:39:37,596 --> 00:39:39,716 Speaker 10: moved from one window to another. I said to her, 659 00:39:39,756 --> 00:39:41,636 Speaker 10: I hollered down. Are you all right? She said, I'm 660 00:39:41,676 --> 00:39:43,236 Speaker 10: just resting, or something like that. 661 00:39:45,916 --> 00:39:49,116 Speaker 1: According to her memoir, when Latis arrived at Lost Hill 662 00:39:49,236 --> 00:39:53,276 Speaker 1: station to file a missing person's report, the deputy recognized 663 00:39:53,316 --> 00:39:57,356 Speaker 1: the name my Teres Richardson. He told the tease someone 664 00:39:57,396 --> 00:40:00,236 Speaker 1: who looked like her daughter had been seen in Montanito 665 00:40:00,436 --> 00:40:04,676 Speaker 1: early that morning. My race, she said, might be quote 666 00:40:05,196 --> 00:40:10,996 Speaker 1: with some friends in the neighborhood unquote friends in Montanito. 667 00:40:11,676 --> 00:40:16,276 Speaker 1: My trees didn't have any friends in Montanito. Latis asked 668 00:40:16,276 --> 00:40:18,996 Speaker 1: how to get there. The deputy told her just take 669 00:40:19,076 --> 00:40:22,756 Speaker 1: Las Virgines, the road that turns into Malibu Canyon and 670 00:40:22,796 --> 00:40:30,596 Speaker 1: you'll hit Cold Canyon Road. As Latis drove mile after 671 00:40:30,716 --> 00:40:34,796 Speaker 1: mile of rural canyon road, no houses, no street lamps, 672 00:40:34,836 --> 00:40:38,716 Speaker 1: no nothing, she thought, there's no way on earth, my 673 00:40:38,836 --> 00:40:45,156 Speaker 1: daughter walked here, My trees was afraid of the dark. 674 00:40:52,676 --> 00:40:56,236 Speaker 1: Next time on Lost Hills, did you have the feeling 675 00:40:56,276 --> 00:40:59,796 Speaker 1: when you were dealing with people in Montanito like they 676 00:40:59,836 --> 00:41:02,476 Speaker 1: wanted to tell you something but they couldn't tell you something. 677 00:41:03,116 --> 00:41:07,996 Speaker 5: Yes, definitely, people just didn't want to talk. They're just 678 00:41:08,036 --> 00:41:11,356 Speaker 5: afraid of law enforcement. This story by this time had 679 00:41:11,396 --> 00:41:13,916 Speaker 5: broke on the news and law enforcement did not look good. 680 00:41:14,756 --> 00:41:16,916 Speaker 5: They're not really in a position to talk because these 681 00:41:16,916 --> 00:41:19,276 Speaker 5: are the people that they have to rely on to 682 00:41:19,796 --> 00:41:22,556 Speaker 5: protect them because you know it's so secluded. 683 00:41:23,676 --> 00:41:34,076 Speaker 1: That's next in episode four of Lost Hills Hopscotch. Lost 684 00:41:34,116 --> 00:41:37,396 Speaker 1: Tills is written and hosted by Me Dana Goodyear. It 685 00:41:37,516 --> 00:41:40,956 Speaker 1: was reported by me and Hailey Fox, our senior producer. 686 00:41:41,516 --> 00:41:45,116 Speaker 1: The show was created by me and Ben Adair. 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