1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Doug Gotleep Show podcast. Be 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday three to five, 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: station for The Doug Gottlieb Show at Foxsports Radio dot com, 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: by searching appspr boom Up America, Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox 7 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. 8 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 2: God, I sound like Buzz Williamson, don't I? Oh, man, 9 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 2: I get that mid season coaching horse thing going. Oh oh, brutal, brutal, 10 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 2: not sick, a little tired, but not like crazy. But 11 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 2: the uh uh, the what do people call it? The 12 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 2: instrument the instrument pause is a little affected by the day. Hope, 13 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 2: you're having a spectacular day. You're ready for a good weekend, 14 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 2: cause it's gonna be a good weekend, right, gonna be 15 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 2: a really good weekkend. No, you just have your mind 16 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 2: and you guys, Southern California. What are you got working 17 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 2: on there? Guys? You got eighty degrees again today? Is 18 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 2: that what you're doing? You guys putting on Just Sam, 19 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 2: make sure you put on sunscreen when you go outside 20 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 2: this weekend. Jason, I know you're gonna go on a 21 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 2: hike with your smoking hot girlfriend takes you. She takes 22 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 2: you to hikes all over southern California. You guys need 23 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 2: sunscreen this weekend, don't you. 24 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 3: Yeah? 25 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 4: No, I've got a lot of thoughts on sunscreen, but 26 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 4: I don't want to bore the whisteners. But seventy nine 27 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 4: degrees this weekend? I think seventy six seventy seven? 28 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, forecast nice? 29 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 2: Do you want to know what the forecast is here 30 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: in Green Bay, Wisconsin? Sure, Tomorrow the high will be 31 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 2: seven degrees, the low will be six minus six Sunday, No, tomorrow, 32 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 2: seven minus six is the low, and then eleven on 33 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 2: Sunday minus four is the low. Yes, So in case 34 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 2: you want to know what that feels like, just imagine 35 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 2: your face in a freezer where there actually wind is 36 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 2: blowing even colder air into your face. It's why does 37 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 2: the wind hate my face? That's really what it kind 38 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 2: of comes down to, why does the wind hate my face? 39 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 2: So right now it's twenty five feels like ten. That 40 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 2: means when it's negative six degrees tonight, it'll feel like 41 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 2: negative thirty. So we got the win last night. But 42 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 2: you guys, get the wind on the weekend in terms 43 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 2: of the web. You know again when I got the 44 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 2: head coaching job year and a half ago. This is 45 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 2: a true story, Jason. I don't know if I've ever 46 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 2: shared this with you. I actually I landed in Milwaukee 47 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 2: like twelve thirty at night because I couldn't get to 48 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 2: Green Bay with the flights and whatever. So I was like, 49 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 2: I just fly to Milwaukee. Flew Phoenix from south from 50 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: from Burbank to Phoenix, Phoenix to Milwaukee, and I'm like, 51 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 2: I'll just drive up there. It's what an hour and 52 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 2: a half. You know, it was hard, So I went 53 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 2: long in my opening press conference because I was I 54 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 2: like had laid out in my mind. I kept giving 55 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 2: my opening press conference kind of monologue and trying to 56 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 2: time it out while I was driving. Right. It's a 57 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 2: I don't know if you've ever used this as a 58 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 2: broadcasting trick, but you can. Actually I did it when 59 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 2: I was doing the Final Four and I had a 60 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 2: minute on the court before Yukon beat Kentucky to whin 61 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 2: They're to win a national championship. Was you know, you 62 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 2: just look at the clock and you give your a 63 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 2: little spiel and you time it out to a minute, right. So, uh, 64 00:03:55,920 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 2: I've done in my mind press conferences. I've actually out 65 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 2: loud in a mirror, worked on press conferences. But I again, 66 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 2: and this is probably a mistake in my preparation, I 67 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 2: haven't done the press conference after being supremely frustrated or 68 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 2: even ticked off. 69 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 6: Right. 70 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 2: But I've had bad moments at those press conferences because 71 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 2: you just you know what went wrong, and you have 72 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 2: to take a deep breath, take full ownership of it, 73 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 2: of it, and find a way to be the stern, 74 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 2: discipline oriented but relatable human being that doesn't browbeat everybody. 75 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 2: And some of it is different college to pro. Now, 76 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 2: I also think some of it is different sport to sport. 77 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 2: How we talk about our players is different than how 78 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 2: women's basketball talks abouts or volleyball or whatever. But again, 79 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 2: I'll share with you my own personal experience in a second. First, 80 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 2: Todd Bowles is the head coach the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. 81 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 2: The Falcons had no reason to win that game, no 82 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 2: reason to win that game. And what I did was 83 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 2: I was a full disclosure Dan Byer. Obviously, the game 84 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 2: was on later, our game was early, was like a 85 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 2: six thirty start so we're done in eight thirty. Were 86 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 2: on the bus at nine, and then we were watching 87 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 2: Iowa State Iowa on the bus on our phones. And 88 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 2: then I went back and rewatched the football game. But 89 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 2: I didn't check scores for the football game, so I 90 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 2: didn't know what was gonna happen. It was it was like, 91 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 2: I don't know if your parents or anybody close to you. 92 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 2: My dad used to do this all the time on weekend. 93 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 2: Don't tell me the scores. I'm taping the game. So 94 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 2: I didn't have to be that guy because I wasn't. 95 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 2: I can't believe the Falcons won the football game. How 96 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 2: many penals did they have? Well, they had tons, yes, 97 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 2: seventeen Jason was. 98 00:05:58,240 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 4: That seventeen nineteen. 99 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 2: It was crazy. So Todd Bowles and again this was 100 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 2: on a different level, same level. There's some similarities me. Again, 101 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 2: he's coaching grown men, he's coaching in the NFL. He's 102 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 2: coached as a defensive coordinator in the Super Bowl with 103 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals. Right, this was how he addressed his 104 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 2: UH comments in the postgame. 105 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 6: It's inexcusable if you don't make excuses. We you got enough, 106 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 6: you got care enough? Where got something to you. It's 107 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 6: more than a job good. How well do you know 108 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 6: your job? How well can you do your job? Well? 109 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 6: You can't sugarcoat it was incusable and it's for that's 110 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 6: for no excuse for it. That's what you're telling them 111 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 6: a lot. I'm looking. 112 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 2: I mean, it's that's awesome. Now. The thing that helps 113 00:06:55,960 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 2: him is one he has this super kind of easy 114 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 2: going way of saying dropping the F word in there 115 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 2: where it's like a it's a it's an adjective, advert 116 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 2: it just it just adds to it. Right. I have 117 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 2: an assistant, Carrie Rup, who's been a head coach, and 118 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 2: he has the same thing, the amazing use of the 119 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 2: F word within sentences where the F word isn't nearly 120 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 2: as offensive. Now you may heart all those beeps and 121 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 2: you're like, oh my gosh, he's but it was really 122 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 2: kind of a matter of fact. You're basically saying, like, 123 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 2: this is your job. You have to do it, you 124 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 2: have to have pride in it, and you have to 125 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 2: actually give a damn about it. You have to have 126 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 2: you have to care, you're give up give a rip, 127 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 2: although nobody says rip has to be at a high 128 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 2: level and if your give a rip is at a 129 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 2: high level, Well, then you pay attention more. And when 130 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 2: you pay attention more, the coaches help you and your 131 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 2: prep for every situation. You don't screw up the way 132 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 2: the Buccaneers screwed up. But they did, and now they're 133 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 2: at seven and seven. I don't think he was out 134 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 2: of line, and I think the big reason why though 135 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 2: he put it on the players and their execution. I 136 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 2: don't know, it's something about the ease by which he's 137 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 2: matter of fact of the Hey, we say no excuses. 138 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 2: There's no excuses. These guys screwed up. Don't believe me. 139 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 2: Just ask them, and they need they need to own 140 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 2: up to why they screwed up and not do it again. Byer, 141 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 2: do you think it was over the top? Is postgame presser? 142 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 7: No, that was a game that they absolutely should have won. 143 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 7: And O there were some things that didn't go their way. 144 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 7: There was a close call on Kyle Pitts, whether he 145 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 7: was in the end zone or not in the end 146 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 7: zone ruled the touchdown on the field call stood. There 147 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 7: was a fumble that they had inside the red zone 148 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 7: that about five Buccaneers had an opportunity to uh to 149 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 7: recover didn't happen. Baker Mayfield threw a bad interception and 150 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 7: I think even he would admit, and they let the game. 151 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 7: I mean, they just let it go. So of less 152 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 7: than a week, they lost two home games to two 153 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 7: inferior division opponents. So I can get why Todd Bowles 154 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 7: would be that mad. 155 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, all of us have no faith in the Carolina Panthers. 156 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 2: Yet the Panthers just beat the Rams, right, Panthers are 157 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 2: beating the Rams, the Packers, the Cowboys. They swept the 158 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 2: Falcons obviously in their division, and they have the Buccaneers 159 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 2: twice in the last three weeks. They do have the Seahawks, 160 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 2: albeit at home, which you know, that's a long long 161 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 2: trip for Seattle and Sam Donald coming against his old club, 162 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 2: one of his old clubs. And they have the Saints 163 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 2: on the road, which you feel like, even though the 164 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 2: Saints have been competitive of late, that should be When 165 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 2: are you ready for the Carolina Panthers to be in 166 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 2: the playoffs and have a home game as a division champion. 167 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 7: Well, actually feel like they've shown more than any team 168 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 7: in that division of at least stability, the kind of 169 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 7: are who they are. They have a running game, maybe 170 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 7: it wasn't as potent as it was at one point 171 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 7: during the season middle of the season where ric O'Donell 172 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 7: had back to back huge games. But to your point 173 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 7: of their resume and who they've beaten, seems like more 174 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 7: of a resume than what Tampa's put together. And the 175 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 7: other frustrating thing for Tampa is everyone's finally healthy. I mean, 176 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 7: Bucky Irving missed a bunch of time. Mike Evans came 177 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 7: back last night at over one hundred yards, a couple 178 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 7: of big plays, and Jaylen McMillan almost caught a touchdown, 179 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 7: so he was back in the fold. So now this 180 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 7: was supposed to be their stretch run. Everybody's back, let's 181 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 7: do it, Let's go on a run. And then you 182 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 7: lose like that and you had nineteen penalties for one 183 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:33,839 Speaker 7: hundred and twenty five yards by the Falcons and the 184 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 7: Buccaneers still can top that. 185 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 4: Doesn't that factor into this, guys? Doesn't the you mentioned 186 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 4: the Panthers and Dave Canalis, right, I think it factors 187 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 4: into the You know, all the debate shows this morning 188 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 4: is Todd Bowles on the hot seat, and he sounded 189 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 4: like a guy in that in that sound bite he 190 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 4: sounds like a guy who sees the rider on the wall. 191 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 4: He sounds like an old guy who has had his 192 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 4: career and doesn't care what happens to him. That's a 193 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 4: sound bite out of a coach like that who's defeated, 194 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 4: but doesn't the Dave Canalising work into this that if 195 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 4: you're going to make a case against Todd Bowles being 196 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 4: the head coach moving forward, you have a former assistant 197 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 4: leading a division opponent to first place. You have a 198 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 4: former assistant and Liam Cohen leading the Jaguars to first place, 199 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 4: and then you have Todd Bowles regressing as a head 200 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:22,239 Speaker 4: coach without those guys. 201 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:28,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I don't think Todd Bowles has regressed. 202 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 2: I mean again that maybe that's and obviously they've fallen 203 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 2: apart here, but they've also had had a bad bite 204 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 2: of injuries, right, They're just they've just had a bad, 205 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 2: bad bite of injuries. That's the only thing I can 206 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 2: I can say to support him. And let's also see 207 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 2: how he finishes. Do I think it plays part of it? Yeah, 208 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 2: But he was the handpicked air apparent to Bruce Arians 209 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 2: and so it wasn't like it was like, well we 210 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 2: have one of these three choices, and they chose poorly. 211 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 2: That was always kind of the deal. And remember arians 212 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 2: is doing that job that no one actually knows what 213 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 2: he does, and still gets paid for it. But he 214 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 2: didn't get fired from his job. That was also part 215 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 2: of the deal. 216 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 7: I would say that the assistants that left the building, 217 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,199 Speaker 7: it's not great for Bowls. The other part of it 218 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 7: is he's a defensive head coach and their defense right 219 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 7: now stinks outside of Viaveda, Viavea, excuse me. They they 220 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 7: can't stop anybody maybe decent against the run. 221 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 5: A game. 222 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 2: How about Kirk Cousins. 223 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 7: Well, that's the point. Kirk Cousins can't throw for three 224 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 7: hundred and seventy three yards and three touchdowns in a 225 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 7: game without Drake London. I think that's why Todd Bowles 226 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 7: is also probably feeling the heat. But I think Jason's 227 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 7: point is is very fair, especially now in the NFL 228 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 7: when you're starting to hear of teams saying, all right 229 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 7: to be sad for offense over defense, because if you 230 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 7: have a good coordinator, they're just gonna go and get 231 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 7: a head coaching job anyway. And now you've had two 232 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 7: go out the door. I think that that I think 233 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 7: that's all legitimate speculation. 234 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, big thing is just winnable division. And 235 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 2: yeah they've had injuries, but at last night, you can't 236 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 2: lose last night's game. Just you can't lose last night's game. 237 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 2: And what happens when you get ultimately frustrateds like, hey, 238 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 2: like you can't say what he said. You're not supposed to, 239 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 2: but that's what everybody's feeling, like, dude, we prepped you 240 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 2: for this stuff. What is actually going on here? And 241 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 2: then then the kirk Cousins, totally washed, comes back and 242 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 2: plays great football last night. What does that mean for 243 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 2: some of these other old quarterbacks right now? About the 244 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 2: Falcons for not sending them out the pastor obviously it 245 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 2: doesn't matter now they're already eliminated for the playoffs, but 246 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 2: that was prime time kirk Cousins playing exceptionally well. For 247 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 2: forty years, Tyreck's been helping customers on the right tires 248 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 2: rout and where they drive ship fast and free and 249 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 2: back by free road has protection with convenient installation options 250 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 2: like mobile tire installation. Tyret dot com the way tire 251 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 2: buying should be. This is care of ninety two point 252 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 2: nine the game the Falcons radio networks. 253 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 8: Why do the riot with Pitts and Sales over there? 254 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 8: Robinson and Mooney here to the near side, Snap to Cousins. 255 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 8: Tampa brings the pressort go throwing. 256 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 2: For the end zone. 257 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 8: It's pets, did he hold on through? Give me a signal, Fellas, 258 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 8: touchdown Atlanta. 259 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 2: That's the tire rack play of the day. Touchdown Atlanta. 260 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 2: Falcons win the game, or actually, maybe more importantly, because 261 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 2: the Falcons are eliminated, Tampa loses the game, and so 262 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 2: the Carolina Panthers are currently in first place. They control 263 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 2: their own destiny in the NFC South. Every Olympic dream 264 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 2: starts with the first glide through learn to Skate USA, 265 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 2: kids build confidence, strength and joy on the ice. Learn 266 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 2: Skate USA offers programs for skaters of all ages and abilities. 267 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 2: Find a program near you it learn to Skate usa 268 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 2: dot com. Come next to The Doug Gottlieb Show was 269 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 2: Joel Shane Wright about what I'll tell you next. 270 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 8: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug 271 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 8: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on 272 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 8: Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio app. 273 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 2: It's Doug Gottlieb Show you listen to Fox Sports Radio, 274 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 2: Every goal starts with assist on and off the field. 275 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 2: That's why Haley on in US Soccer launching for the 276 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 2: Assist the celebration of everyday acts of support that help 277 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 2: people achieve their goals with iconic brands like censinne, Tom's 278 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 2: faul Terran, Advil, and Centrum. Learn more, go to Haley 279 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 2: on Assist dot com. Mark Dominical Jonas In moments we'll 280 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 2: get his take on last night's Bucks debuckle and Todd 281 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 2: Bowles pointing the figsbuck stops other places. But before we 282 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 2: get to all of that, I do think it's important 283 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 2: that Sam points out the Syhawk was one but won 284 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 2: by Iowa State last night. 285 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 5: Yes, it was great game. 286 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 9: Hawkeyes had their chances. But for the first time in history, 287 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 9: Iowa State has now won the men's game, the women's game, wrestling, 288 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 9: and football in the same year. 289 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 2: Do they have women's wrestling? 290 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 5: Iowa does, Iowa State does not. 291 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 9: Iowa women's wrestling is very good, dominate, but it's kind 292 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 9: of a burgeoning sport right now. 293 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 2: It is a burgeoning sport anyway, So the didn't Iowa 294 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 2: State have like fifteen points at halftime, it was it. 295 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 9: Was thirty three twenty five, I believe, and then Iowa 296 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 9: State just came out gangbusters at the beginning of the 297 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 9: second half. 298 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 5: Then i we re spawned. It was heavy eight fight. 299 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 9: It was I was Iowa was an eleven and a 300 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 9: half point dog, and they battled and they had it 301 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 9: within with a one possession game with about a minute 302 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 9: ago or something like that. 303 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 2: It was close thirty three to twenty five at the half, 304 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 2: ends up being sixty six sixty two. Good ball game. 305 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 2: My boy Miles Signment was on the call. Did it 306 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 2: sneak up on anybody else? Sneak up on anybody else? 307 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 6: The the. 308 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 2: The NBA Cup in Vegas, Like, I saw that pop 309 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 2: up in my email, you know, we get emails as 310 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 2: at broadcasts whatever, Hey, don't forget NBA Cup in Vegas 311 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 2: set dates. Here's the teams that's playing. Like, I guess 312 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 2: it's because I didn't realize it's December. I'm so into 313 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 2: you know, football, And of course my basketball team did. 314 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 2: Did sneak up on you? 315 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 6: Dan? 316 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 2: Well? 317 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 7: The one thing that the NBA did this year is 318 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 7: they had quarterfinal games this week, so the rest of 319 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 7: the league kind of took off Tuesday and Wednesday, so 320 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 7: the Lakers had that game against the Spurs, which was 321 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 7: a cup game, and you know, the the Knicks played 322 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 7: earlier this week, So the NBA did try to kind 323 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 7: of highlight it this year by by doing that with 324 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 7: the schedule. But yeah, usually happens around this time at 325 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 7: heading to Vegas. But yeah, that's what's gonna happen tomorrow. 326 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 2: Yeah that's Doug Gotlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. People 327 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 2: are paying more attention to football as they should. Mark 328 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 2: Dominic pays a ton of attention to football. He's a 329 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 2: former general manager of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He's worked 330 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 2: at all levels of the National Football League, and he 331 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 2: joins us here on Fox Sports Radio. How the Buccaneers 332 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 2: lose that game. 333 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 3: I I'm watching the game, and when you know, having 334 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 3: worked with Raheem Morris as our head coach in Tampa 335 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 3: Bay for a few years, when you know, they were 336 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 3: down fourteen points, they scored the touchdown and made it 337 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 3: twenty to twenty eight. I'm like, don't you kick the 338 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 3: extra point? Like I don't believe the analytics is correct 339 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,479 Speaker 3: here and they miss it, and I'm like, oh, here, 340 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 3: you go and then they score and you're like, go 341 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 3: for two, and they don't get that there's no way, 342 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 3: and then some I mean, it's just that's such a 343 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 3: miserable loss at home when the division's right in front 344 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 3: of you for years for the taking. I still think 345 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 3: they'll win the division, but just the way the ball 346 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 3: bounces and the way that played out is just it's 347 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 3: hard to have them. I mean, it's you wake up 348 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 3: the next morning six to your stomach, or you wake 349 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 3: up that's the fastest flight you've ever had to Atlanta. 350 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 2: I'll ask you a question that I think I think 351 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 2: Jason's too. It was it Jason or was it you? 352 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 2: Dan discussed about fifteen minutes ago. Considering you have other 353 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 2: former assistants who are doing very, very well and the 354 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 2: Bucks are collapsing here down the stretch, how much does 355 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,959 Speaker 2: do the other assistants that used to be in Tampa 356 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 2: doing well increase the pressure on Todd bulls Well? 357 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 3: I think because of Bullsby on the defensive side. Obviously 358 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 3: those guys are on the offensive side with Canals and 359 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 3: Cohen that, yeah, it's pressure. But again, you know, as 360 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 3: much as there was an opportunity last night for Tampa 361 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 3: to kind of make sure that they've won the South again. 362 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 3: Their schedule still they played the Carolina Panthers twice, the 363 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 3: schedule still in front of them. I think, if you're 364 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 3: Jason Light, if I was Jason Light and I'm sitting 365 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 3: there today, I want to see the whole season playoff. 366 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 3: I'm in zero rush here. But I don't think Todd 367 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 3: Bowles is on a hot seat right now, not this year. Glaziers, 368 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 3: as much as there's been changed there, I don't see 369 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 3: them as a team that would want to change after, 370 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 3: you know, being the only team that's won its division 371 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 3: the last what four or five years in a row. 372 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 3: No one's done that besides the Buccaneers in the South. 373 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 2: All Right, So the last two weeks you joined us 374 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 2: and you said, hey, you know, Stot's been fine, good. 375 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 2: I just don't see him long term as the starter 376 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 2: there in Cleveland. Did last weekend change your mind? No? 377 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 6: Not really. 378 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 3: I mean I think that they're just auditioning and they'll 379 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 3: be back at the podium this year, and you know, 380 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 3: with depending on which quarterbacks actually do decide to come 381 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 3: out and be part of this draft class, will be 382 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 3: a big part of what happens with the Cleveland Browns. 383 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 3: But I think that they are seeing they've got two 384 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,239 Speaker 3: good twos potentially. I just don't feel like they've got 385 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 3: their number one. And again, I think it's under duress 386 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 3: too much. And that's all from you know, processing quickly 387 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 3: enough and right now. You know again, I'd give him 388 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 3: through the rest of the season at this point instead 389 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 3: of going back to just to make sure. But I 390 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 3: feel like I need to see three or four more games. 391 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 3: But I just don't know if the processing is gonna happen. 392 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 3: That't enough for him. 393 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 2: Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio, that's the 394 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 2: voice of of Mark Dominic. I agree. You know, it's 395 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 2: interesting that the touchdown when he kind of layered a 396 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 2: little bit in the end zone, he actually had a 397 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,360 Speaker 2: tight end wide open that we made the wrong read 398 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 2: and got a touchdown. Anyway, I haven't heard anybody point 399 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 2: it out watching him like that is the wrong guy, 400 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 2: wrong guy? Okay, cam Ward watching him in the same game. 401 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 2: How much concern do you have for his future? 402 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 8: I do. 403 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 3: Know he's not look I think he's respected in the 404 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 3: locker room. I think he's got the mox scene. I 405 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 3: think he's got the intelligence. I think that his release 406 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 3: looks off a little bit to me, even though it's 407 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 3: something you really can't change at this point, this late 408 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 3: in their careers. We all know what Tim Tebow and 409 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 3: other guys to carry Collins hitch like. You just can't 410 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 3: get rid of that stuff. And part of that makes 411 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 3: me concerned that you know, the accuracy and just being 412 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 3: able to put the weight on his shoulders. It's been 413 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 3: disheartening because I really like cam More the kid, but 414 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 3: and I got you gotta be honest. I mean, they're 415 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 3: surrounding them with a bunch of guys that probably are 416 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 3: backups for other teams in terms of skill set guys, 417 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 3: and all that combined makes for, you know, a very 418 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 3: disappointing campaign. But I think if you're the Titans, you 419 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 3: cannot rule out quarterback in the first round. I think 420 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 3: the worst situation you have is you're you over. You 421 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 3: want to believe so badly that your pick is going 422 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 3: to make it that you're not willing to keep your 423 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 3: eyes open and say, hey, look at two quarterbacks and 424 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 3: one of them is a franchise guy. I don't care 425 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 3: teams trade two or three or four first rounders to 426 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 3: get a franchise guy. So if he takes two our 427 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 3: first round picks on quarterback to get the right guy, 428 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 3: do it. I think they've got to keep their eyes 429 00:22:58,280 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 3: open on both things. 430 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 2: Doug Gottlief Show, you listened to Fox Sports Radio Bears 431 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 2: Packers game? You walked away with what impression after watching 432 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 2: those two teams? 433 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I still really believe in what the 434 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 3: Green Bay Packers can be and r I still feel 435 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 3: like the wh when a push comes to show. I 436 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 3: feel like they've got more playmakers across the board, and 437 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 3: I trust Jordan Love to be able to push the 438 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 3: ball when it has to happen and think that he 439 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 3: can make a throw. And it gives me the confidence 440 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 3: to feel like this Packer team is the is the 441 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 3: better team. But the Bears, you know, I've always said 442 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 3: all season, I just feel like they're going to not 443 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 3: be in the postseason. I think Detroit is going to 444 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 3: catch them and move forward, and I think that's what's 445 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 3: going to unfold as we see the last month of 446 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 3: the season. 447 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 2: S Doug Gottlief Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, 448 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts, are they using him incorrectly and throwing the 449 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 2: ball too much. Is this his ceiling He's not running 450 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 2: the football as much or as well? What's your assessment 451 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 2: of Jalen Hurts and what suddenly has changed for the 452 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 2: worst with the Eagles. 453 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's one thing is what you talked about, 454 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 3: and they did run sa kuon Barker. I talked about 455 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 3: how important was going to be to get say Kwon 456 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 3: Barker ball. They ran the ball well, they could have 457 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 3: run it more, I think, and not put everything in 458 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 3: Jalen's hands. And I think that's what you've got to 459 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 3: continue to do. You don't take the ball out of 460 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 3: Jalen's hands and tell him you're not good enough anymore. 461 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 3: Maybe you convince him Doug that it's every week the 462 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 3: super Bowl and he plays to that kind of level. 463 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 3: But I think the more important way to talk to 464 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 3: Jalen is we still believe in you. But certainly as 465 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 3: an offensive coordinator, we're going to hand the ball off 466 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 3: to Barkley, We're going to do it twenty three times 467 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 3: Orross gonna throw a bunch of screens and just really 468 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 3: build back the confidence because that was a nightmare game 469 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 3: for a young quarterback or for a quarterback in the league, 470 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 3: yet I still think he can overcome it. And look, 471 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 3: Jalen's not the top ten type of quarterback in the NFL, 472 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 3: but he has been a top ten postseason type of 473 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 3: quarterback and I think he continued to do that. This 474 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 3: Eagles team's going to make it to the postseason and 475 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 3: be fine. And I still think they're going to be 476 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 3: the team that you're worried about playing when you get 477 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 3: into the postseason because of where I think Barkley's gonna explode. 478 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 2: Chris Greer got fired, but they also trade away you know, 479 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 2: Jayalen Ramsey, who can who can? Who can be rough 480 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,360 Speaker 2: right to to have in terms of culture and locker room. 481 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 2: You know, they don't have a guy we thought was 482 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 2: their most talented wide receiver and Tyreek Hills on the 483 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 2: ir but again, some culture issues there. But the Dolphins 484 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 2: have kind of quietly stabilized themselves. Right, They've won four 485 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 2: in row, they've won five of six. They have some 486 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 2: winnable games here down the stretch. What's the likelihood that 487 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 2: McDaniel and Tua return despite the fact the general manager 488 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 2: who hired them and drafted them is no longer there. 489 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 3: I would say that McDaniel's trying to put together the 490 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 3: resume and you've got to get them credit. And I think, 491 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 3: you know, mister Ross, the owner of the Dolphins, UH 492 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 3: could have just cleaned house right one sweep, and he 493 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 3: did not. So he must have some confidence that maybe 494 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 3: that he gets to see day to day in terms 495 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 3: of you know, maybe what we portray or we've talked 496 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 3: about media wise of like he's got no control over 497 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,719 Speaker 3: the roster. He you know, the inmates are running the asylum. 498 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 3: Maybe that was more the way Greer wanted to handle 499 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,719 Speaker 3: things and maybe the coach has decided to handle things differently. 500 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 3: So I think he can still write his own ticket 501 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,360 Speaker 3: here and keep himself in town. I don't think it's 502 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 3: a certainty is that he's out, and I think it's 503 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 3: been great to see. It's been fun, especially you know, 504 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 3: watchin has been just writes out, so good for them, 505 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 3: and so I think they continue to lean on what 506 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 3: he can provide and that's that's been a big, big 507 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 3: relief for that offense. 508 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 2: This is the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. 509 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 2: That's Mark Dominic who, of course the former general manager 510 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 2: of the Tampaiy Buccaneers over twenty years in NFL front 511 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 2: office of scouting, you name it. Something weird happened when 512 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 2: we had to LESCo on on Monday. So he's on 513 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 2: with us and we're talking about Shane Stikeen and what 514 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 2: he to do. And I said, what have you called Philip? 515 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,360 Speaker 2: Do you think he'll call Philip Rivers? He's like, he's 516 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 2: coaching high school football. I'm like, well, the guy who 517 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 2: knows the system can still come in and you can't 518 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 2: lose a step if you never had a step. But 519 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 2: he is forty four, right, and you know the reports 520 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 2: were that while it hasn't been announced, he's practicing as 521 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 2: if he's going to play and start against Seattle this weekend. 522 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on how this all works? Right 523 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 2: late in the year, got to get somebody off the street, 524 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 2: don't have a lot working in the house, and what 525 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 2: the Colts have decided to do. 526 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think they're trying to salvage the season, right. 527 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 3: I mean they were on fire and they looked like 528 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 3: the fun story of twenty twenty five and then everything's 529 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 3: falling apart. I think this is ownership. Well, and certainly 530 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 3: you know, obviously general manager that you're trying to find 531 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 3: a way to keep yourself in the postseason and you're 532 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 3: looking for any opportunity. And for Philip Man, this is 533 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 3: going to be hard. But I do grou Dog. I 534 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 3: think he's going to stress, and I think he's going 535 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 3: to play. I mean, you didn't sign him to, you know, 536 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 3: run a practice squad. He didn't sign him from You 537 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 3: sign a veteran quarterback who's played you know whatever, two 538 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 3: hundred games the National Football League. Yes, the game's faster 539 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 3: and things are different, but he does understand the game 540 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 3: very well. He's been coaching it, so that's good. He's 541 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 3: not going to be in the right condition and he's 542 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 3: going to take some really bad hits. But I think 543 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 3: they throw him in there because you're saying, hey, look 544 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 3: we're not going to win any well, so when I 545 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 3: will put Philip in and see if it gives us 546 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 3: just a spark better than what we have, And that's 547 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 3: where you sit. I mean, that's why you've got to 548 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 3: have what you feel is And I know that they 549 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 3: tried to with Richardson obviously with Daniel Jones, but you know, 550 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 3: you just get devastated at that position more than anywhere 551 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 3: you're in deep trouble, and obviously the Colts are in 552 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 3: deep trouble. And I don't think it's gonna be enough 553 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 3: to get them back to make sure that they make 554 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 3: the postseason. I don't believe that's going to happen for 555 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 3: an Indy. 556 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 2: The kids. The Chiefs have been the model, right and 557 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 2: now that the model of an aging, decaying, formerly great team. 558 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 2: How hard are their issues to fix this offseason? 559 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 3: I don't think it's that hard. And you know, I 560 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 3: actually watched some more Chiefs tape this week, and I know, 561 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 3: you know, I've been harping a little bit on the 562 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 3: offensive line coming together. One of it's got to get 563 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 3: Tray Smith healthy. But I got to tell you, Doug, 564 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 3: when I watched Josh Simmons, their first round pick, the 565 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 3: left tackle from Ohio State with a thirty second pick 566 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 3: in the draft, She's going to be phenomenal, like phenomenal 567 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 3: good you literally. So I think they've got to get 568 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 3: the right side of the line fixed. I think they 569 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 3: go back to the offensive line. Look, they've got to 570 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 3: fix the offensive line, especially the right side. Now you're 571 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 3: I think you're okay interior wise, and you certainly have 572 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 3: think going to be outside good on tackle if you 573 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 3: go draft young another tackle. I think the thing that 574 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 3: I've talked about is what they have to do is 575 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,479 Speaker 3: either in free agency or you know, and the other 576 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 3: draft pick, you know, higher in the draft, since they'll 577 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:50,719 Speaker 3: be picking high in the draft for the first time 578 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 3: in forever, They've got to get a speedball. They've got 579 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 3: to get a pass rusher that can throw a fastball. 580 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 3: They have to have it because everybody can sit back 581 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 3: and uh not be worried about losing the edge, and 582 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 3: that helps them. That really hurts their defense from being 583 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 3: as productive as I think they could be. So I 584 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,959 Speaker 3: think that that's something that those two things, the right 585 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 3: tackle and finding us pass rusher are number one, number 586 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 3: two check checks for the Cancer Chiefs, and they. 587 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 2: Probably need new tight end right I mean, I mean 588 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 2: it feels close to time. I mean, it still can 589 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 2: be effective, but not as effective. Gonna have to find 590 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 2: an air apparent there as well, but can't do anything 591 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 2: you can't protect on the right side as well. That's 592 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 2: obviously the priority. Mark great stuff. Happy holidays, Toe you 593 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 2: merk Christmas. Thanks for being our guests. We'll talk to 594 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 2: you soon. 595 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 3: You bet enjoy the games. Of Freaking Doug. 596 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 8: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug 597 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 8: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific. 598 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 2: Doug gott Leeb Show, Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio app A reminder, 599 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 2: the podcast version of the show is available at the 600 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 2: top of the third hour. So we go two hours, 601 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 2: then hand up to Covino and Rich. We have an 602 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 2: extra podcast. It's called in the Bonus, and uh yeah, 603 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 2: we talk a lot of ish in the Bonus. It's 604 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 2: a little bit, little bit different than the radio show. 605 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 2: Jason does it with no clothes on. I think it's inappropriate, 606 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 2: but I'm not in the same studio, so it doesn't 607 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 2: bother me. Let's get to a game with Dan Byer. 608 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 8: This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show. 609 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 2: Dan Byro, what's the game today, my friend Doug. 610 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 7: The game today is I Got DIBs? All right, we 611 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 7: start out Philip Rivers memories. Yes, your favorite memory or 612 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 7: memory that stands out the most Philip Rivers memories. 613 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 2: In three two one go I got DIBs. I'm playing 614 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 2: in the AFC Championship game with a torn aclh. If 615 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 2: we remember that game where they were beaten by the 616 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 2: New England Patriots after beating Nneapolis Colts on the road. 617 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 2: Ledanian Thomlinson did not play with a spray knee granted 618 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,959 Speaker 2: position where he needed to be way more explosive than 619 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 2: Philip Rivers. But Rivers played in the town acl Laedanian 620 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 2: Thomason didn't play. And here's the shocker. The Chargers lost 621 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 2: to the Patriots. 622 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 4: I got divs. I got divs. On another playoff moment, 623 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 4: it was later in his wife. He was thirty years 624 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 4: old and he was playing the Ravens in a playoff game, 625 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 4: and he remember scrambled for nine yards, got the first down, 626 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 4: got his clock cleaned, and then he got up and 627 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 4: he did that very awkward old white guy head nod 628 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 4: first down motion. I think he set out towards that 629 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 4: he became a five year old again. He never scrambled. 630 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 4: He's not mobile. And that was I remember that moment. 631 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 4: That was a good one. 632 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 9: Was that was that twenty eighteen because they did have 633 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 9: a playoff win for the eighty nineteen Well, I'm looking 634 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 9: at twenty eighteen as a wonderful season for Philip Rivers 635 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 9: and the Chargers. They went twelve and four, They did 636 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 9: beat the Ravens in the playoff. They lost to the 637 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 9: Patriots eventually, but they had a couple of close wins 638 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 9: San Francisco, Tennessee, and Pittsburgh. But the one that stands 639 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 9: out was a one point win over the Chiefs in 640 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 9: Week fifteen. It was just a joy to watch. I remember, 641 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 9: and he was at NC State. They played Ohio State 642 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 9: in a shootout in two thousand and three, went to overtime. 643 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 9: Ohio State ultimately got the win, but it was an 644 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 9: up and down affair between the Buckeyes and Wolfpack. 645 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 7: I also remember the time where he made Doug. I 646 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 7: think you've talked about this, how Philip Rivers makes you 647 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 7: feel like your best friends. Sure, and so at the 648 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 7: training camp. I remember when we had him on a 649 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 7: broadcast years back and joined the show. 650 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 2: No people would go like, well, you and Philip must 651 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 2: like hang out together like no, man, literally, No, he 652 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 2: just makes has that way, has that way. 653 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 4: He didn't do many interviews. He wasn't he didn't make 654 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 4: himself available, but when he did show up, he was 655 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 4: like the greatest guy in the world. 656 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 5: It was one of those things. 657 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was crazy, all right. 658 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 7: Cut him on the heels of Philip Rivers. By the way, 659 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 7: just got an alert that Riley Leonard is off the 660 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 7: injury report for the Colts, so he would be available, 661 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 7: but we don't know. Shane Stikeen is not named the 662 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 7: starter yet for Sunday's game in Seattle for Indianapolis. But 663 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 7: on the heels of the Philip Rivers conversation, how about 664 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 7: old quarterbacks in general? Just old guys. You remember playing 665 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 7: quarterback coming down in three two one go. Vinny Testaverdi 666 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,839 Speaker 7: was around for a long time. Ever ever ever could 667 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 7: still throw it, and his better years were in his 668 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:29,800 Speaker 7: later years. 669 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:30,359 Speaker 2: Yeah. 670 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 7: Remember he was more of a laughing stock in his 671 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 7: early years with the Buccaneers. 672 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 2: They were terrible. 673 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, but then almost led the Jets and then yes. 674 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:43,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, great call, really good one warm moon ah yes, 675 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 2: and I bet war Moon right now can still throw 676 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 2: one of those spirals at the ball, Like looked longer 677 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 2: when he threw it. It's such an incredibly tight spiral. 678 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:58,359 Speaker 4: I got divs on Brett Favre Viking years. So two 679 00:34:58,400 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 4: thousand and nine, I think he had one of his 680 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 4: best seasons he ever had led the Vikings seal at 681 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 4: the NFC Championship Game. I want to say or something else. 682 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,359 Speaker 4: And then the following season was just pathetic. I want 683 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 4: to say the last game he ever played was getting 684 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 4: his ass kicked for four quarters to the Saints. Am I. 685 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 2: No this? He lost? He lost the Saints in the 686 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 2: Bounty year in the in the NFC Championship game. 687 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:27,359 Speaker 6: Right. 688 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 2: The next year he came back. He retired, and then 689 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 2: they famously sent the private plane down there with three 690 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 2: players and he came back in the Nike hat that 691 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 2: looked like it had that was like the one hat 692 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 2: every day mowing. And what I remember about that year 693 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:45,959 Speaker 2: was his streak. Because he got hurt, his streak ended, 694 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 2: and then the Metrodome actually collapsed from too much snow. 695 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 6: It was like. 696 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 2: Completely appropriate, like things that never happened. Brett fare misses 697 00:35:55,600 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 2: a start and the Metrodome actually the dome collapsed snow? 698 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 5: All right? Final topic? 699 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 7: Are we good on old quarterbacks? 700 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:08,800 Speaker 2: Can do old domes? 701 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 5: Doug? 702 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 2: You had ward domes? 703 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 5: Warn moon can still throw a football over them mountains? 704 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 5: How much you want to make a bet? 705 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 2: I can throw a football over them mountains? Good? Pretty good? 706 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 2: What else got dan virus? 707 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 5: Final one? 708 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 7: Christmas Time activity? Christmas Time activity? I got DIBs on 709 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 7: wrapping presents. All right, the stress is over of having 710 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 7: to find gifts. Wrapping presence is something I usually do 711 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 7: while having some alcoholic beverages. Maybe you're listening to some 712 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 7: music and you're really winding down. You're like, man, the 713 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,880 Speaker 7: fruit of my labor is here, it's done, and I 714 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 7: can't wait for people. 715 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 9: No, I'm terrible. It looks like it looks like metal wreckage. 716 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 9: It looks like something wrapped in metal. 717 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 2: When when my kids were little, my job was to 718 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 2: put all the do all the heavy lifting stuff. I 719 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 2: did all the bias, obviously, the supplying and the heavy 720 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 2: lifting stuff, and then she did all the rapping. I 721 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 2: did none of the wrapping. 722 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:03,240 Speaker 5: Women. 723 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 2: Yes, it's it's it's almost like that's like what's taught 724 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 2: to When did they bring them? Pull them a cycle? 725 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 2: Here's a you wrap The guy can't do it, and 726 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 2: I would watch I would watch Diehard when that would happen. 727 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 7: So I like Christmas lights, like checking out Christmas lights. 728 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 2: I like Christmas music within reasons, especially time. 729 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 8: This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show. 730 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 2: All right, Well, Sun Moore's got some different Christmas time 731 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 2: activities we'll discuss next in the Doug Gottlib Show. You're 732 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio.