1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: Big Man and DJ Scream bring you Big Facts hottest 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: podcast in the streets. Visit the new website today www 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: dot Big Facts pot dot com live for first class sounds. 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: You know who it is, DJ Screen, Big Bang Baby Ja. 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,639 Speaker 1: Then today we have a special special legendary guests on 6 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: Big Facts Show. Mr what's my favorite word? To short 7 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: this head? Mr what's my favorite word? Might get that 8 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: T shirt made? There you go, there you go, Welcome 9 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: the Big Facts Soljee. How you feeling to day? I'm good, man, 10 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 1: I'm good. It's always good when I get back to 11 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,279 Speaker 1: the A man always good. You lived here? How long 12 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: did you live here? I was said, from ninety three 13 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: to eight ninety eight years? And what made you? I 14 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 1: wouldn't say at the peak, but you were just like 15 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: popping popping? What made you up? And say? I'm going 16 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: from the bay today. Freak Nike, Freak Nick. There you go. 17 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: I came to Freak Nick ninety three. I heard about 18 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: Freak Nick ninety two. Yeah, I was like, all right, 19 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to it the next year. So I 20 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: went to Freak Nick ninety three. I came here for 21 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: the weekend. I stayed for two weeks and then uh, 22 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: I was. I was about to buy a house in 23 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: Oakland and my homeboy from Oakland lived out here already, 24 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: my homeboy, um my hombie tone and he um. He 25 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 1: fucking was like, what kind of how is she gonna 26 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: buy something I've probably spent like about, you know, half 27 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: a million, get a little something up in the hills. 28 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: He was, let let me show you what's good for 29 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: half of men in Atlanta. So it's freak. Nick were 30 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: like riding around looking at a couple of properties and ship. 31 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: I came back for Jack the Rapper a few months later, 32 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: and I didn't even tell nobody what I was doing. 33 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: I just kind of left the convention and I went 34 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 1: and bought a house, and I just I just came 35 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: out of here. Man, I don't know. I felt like, 36 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. It just called me. Man. It was 37 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: the colleges, it was the strip clubs, it was the 38 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: you know, I was looking at young Dallas, Austin and 39 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: Jermaine and it was you know, it was the Face records. 40 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm had to come get down with this ship. 41 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: So I pulled up. Yeah yeah, And Atlanta is always 42 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: like I don't think you had to fit in and 43 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: those ships. Like when you got here, it was like 44 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: people were just like short here and you just fit in, 45 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But you know, like ninety 46 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 1: three it was a little different than this Atlanta that 47 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: was the Olympics, and it was like it was a 48 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: different vibe and it's kind of like school Days the 49 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 1: movie or something, you know it was. It was it 50 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: was the streets tech what all that ship was. It 51 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: was little, but then it was the colleges and it 52 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: was that vibe and I was like, man, I'm supposed 53 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 1: to be here, so uh, I don't know, man, it 54 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: just you niggas don't know this. Though I lived in 55 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: Atlanta in the seventies, I got one year in. I 56 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: finished my seventh grade year, I started my eighth grade year. 57 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: I lived on old National Highway Camelot outside. I lived 58 00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:00,239 Speaker 1: in the camera while. Yeah that's probably like Dwayne Williams years. 59 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: And then uh I went to M. D. Collins. I 60 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: even went with seventh grade. I went to the meadows 61 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 1: like people people in college plunking know these schools. But 62 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: but yeah, man, I was I was out here. So 63 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: my mama moved out here, and then I guess I 64 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: don't know. She didn't tell me, but I'm assuming she 65 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: was like Jane Williams, I'm getting out of hell out 66 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: of here. I don't even I don't necessarily believe Lane 67 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: will it was did all the murders. But at the 68 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: same time, you know, it was in the air, and 69 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: and we did back to Kelly. So when I got 70 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 1: to Atlanta ninety three, I knew people. I knew certain 71 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: people in school with I just kind of fit in 72 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: a little bit. So, you know, with being a legend 73 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: and the poneer of the game, what you think you 74 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: brought to the game that's yet to be duplicated, Well, 75 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: you know, I feel like, for one, every time you 76 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: get a rapper with a dope style and a voice, 77 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: people are always still it. Nobody never really stole two 78 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: short voice, but nobody tried to mimic it and nothing. 79 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: And then on the other side, my blueprint is all 80 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: always been funky music with a lot of bass, and 81 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: then just spent a lot of game. And then I 82 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: could name you the few that figured it out. But 83 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: people try to do certain things, and they had like 84 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: the beats, but they don't have a game. They might 85 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: have a game, but they don't have the beats, and 86 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: it's like it takes both and you wanted to Like 87 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: you're like, man, this nigger can't really wrap, but I'm 88 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 1: spending a lot of game and the beats sounds so 89 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: damn good in your car and people don't know that. 90 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 1: That's how we was cheating the game, Like we literally, 91 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: like you mixed your song in the studio, I mixed 92 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: my songs in the car, like I I go to 93 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: the guy and get the best goddamn stereo I can get. 94 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, this one sound good, and I just 95 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: put everything to the test in that car. If you 96 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 1: don't pass the car test and they don't get mixed 97 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: it master. So literally my ship was customized for your 98 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: expensive as stereo in your car. How did you how 99 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: did you deal with that? Then? Oh, coming into the 100 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 1: game and that you know what I'm saying, that you're 101 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: having a hold on it, and I know you ustill 102 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: always hear like the short can't rap, short can't wrap it. 103 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: In Atlanta, We're like, you the best rapper because we 104 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: can relate to it. But they were like, he's not lyrical, 105 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: he's not all this other bullshit, Like how did you 106 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: go from that space to them saying people wanted to 107 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: do music with you. Well, first and foremost, um the 108 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: guys I was working when we used to have a 109 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: strict policy. Let's let's do everything that they don't do, 110 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: whatever they do when I do that, and let's do 111 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: some ship they ain't doing. So that was first and 112 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: foremost to just be not not trying to be like 113 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: New York. And then I like New York Wrap. I 114 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: love it, but I'm saying I didn't want to be it. 115 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: So they're on top of that. Like the first reviews 116 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: I got when I signed a Jive and I'm like, 117 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 1: on the national scale, national level, I want to review 118 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: the shitty. They was like, I can't wrap be swag. 119 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 1: I'm like cool. The first whack review I got, it 120 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: kind of hurt because it was a major publication. I'm 121 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: reading them like damn. I thought, you know, when I 122 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: do shows, they love me. And then I started making 123 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: that money. So the next cycle when they gave me 124 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: the bad reviews, I don't like ship, I gonna swimming 125 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: pool at the house around like so it didn't it 126 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: didn't really bother me. And then I started embracing it 127 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: to where I was like they don't understand it, because 128 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: if you got on the walk man, and you're on 129 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: the train, you ain't gonna get it, you know what 130 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 1: I'm saying, vice ab versa. If I'm if I'm in 131 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: my car, I just spent twelve thousand on the sound 132 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: system and you put in um some boom bath or 133 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: something you know, with no with no real base, and 134 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: it's intense, and it's you know, it's a certain energy 135 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: like like the ship sound good in your headphones. You 136 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: got your walk man, You're on the train, people stressing 137 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 1: you out and ship and you're like trying to shut 138 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: out the world if it works, But that ship I 139 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: make you need a fucking ten thousand dollar assistant above it. 140 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: And I just understood that. And I played my I 141 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: played my lane, and they couldn't They couldn't figure it out. Man, 142 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: I was I had like like seven six something platinum 143 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: moutas before they didn't realize what I was doing. Nine 144 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 1: months I think blamed you for Nigga not trusting relationships too. Bro. Well, 145 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: you know that's another thing that people don't understand is 146 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: I've been My music is really educational, Like I really, 147 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: I really like put these stories in there and I 148 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: give you these scenarios and I'll tell you the dudes 149 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: and don't and it's just like it's like passing the game. 150 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: I look at it like I'm just I'm just just 151 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: one person talking to one other person, and I'm just 152 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: giving you the game. Like this is how I walked. 153 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: I walked around the city and the o G is 154 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: giving me the game. The ogs let to get the game. 155 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: So I'm like, I'm a past the game on and 156 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: that's all I was doing. And and people took to 157 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: that ship like it's like, don't don't let her pull 158 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: up on you and tell you gotta give her give 159 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: her all your money, like don't do it. And it's 160 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: just like, man, I was. I was a sucker that 161 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: I listen to drugs some short dog and I got 162 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: the game. That was the purpose. Yeah, I feel like 163 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: I feel like if Cocktails would have been a book, 164 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: it would have been a best seller. That's when I 165 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: first got the Atlanta. It was the first thing I 166 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: made in Atlanta was a contail. I recorded the album 167 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: at Dalla saw some studio. I shot the video out here. 168 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: Everything see the trains in the background. So look, I 169 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: want to ask you something and I want you to 170 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: like just answer me, like very seriously, why didn't you 171 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: ever trademark Bitch? Well, I've been asked that, and you know, 172 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: early on it was just my thing. And I remember 173 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: I felt like ice Cube had a record that it 174 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: was a bitch is a Bitch or something and he 175 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: said it at the end and then uh a MG 176 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: came with uh this better have my money. It's going 177 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 1: I think he was sapling the ice Cube song in 178 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 1: that song and then people kind of start saying it 179 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: and it was like, you know, I was, I was. 180 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: I had mixed emotions, But the big picture of it 181 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: is death Row comes along Snoop Doggs starts saying that 182 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: death Row adopted it, like be honestly put a little 183 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: twist on it. And I feel like, let's say, had 184 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: I trademarked it before that, and I'm like, anybody said, 185 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: you gotta pay me, I don't feel like it would 186 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: have became what it what it what what what it did, 187 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 1: But it hasn't. They didn't. Bitch wasn't actually trademarked until 188 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: two thousand nine. But I'm saying, had you not given 189 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: it to the world, it wouldn't have been the thing. 190 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: It would have been my little thing, and I would 191 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:22,839 Speaker 1: have suppressed it and kept it right here, and it 192 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: wouldn't The world couldn't have had it. So it's like 193 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: it's like a contribution, man, and that's what That's what 194 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: hip hop is. Hip hop. Let's see like in today's 195 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: in today's music, like niggas are the opposite, like I 196 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: said this first, or I made this word, or let's 197 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: just look at hip hop. What if you could trademark 198 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 1: a hairstyle or a fashion style like hip hop is 199 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: is a gift like the whole When the rappers do something, 200 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: the whole world does it. So it's like, that's that's 201 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: what we do. We give out phrases and new looks 202 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: and slick words and we give it to the world. 203 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: Like that's what we do. Yeah, bitch, was my gift 204 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 1: to the rocket short Let me get a bit, here goes, 205 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: It's a gift. We got some bills about Kevin Samuel's 206 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: passing the way. What's how you feel about this philosophy 207 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: and the stuff that he said in the game and 208 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: the well not what he what he was kicking. I 209 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: don't know the whole journey. I look all I know 210 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: is the recent uh clickbait. I can't get to the 211 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,719 Speaker 1: gist of what it, where it came from, and what 212 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: it was. I don't know it was. It sounded like 213 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: some pimping, but then it sounded real, like, you know, 214 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: anti female. I don't know, you know, because Pepperkin was here, 215 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: he called it miss pimping. I was readingly quotes and 216 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know what this, what this pimping is, 217 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:47,599 Speaker 1: but he sounded slightly angry because it was it was 218 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: hate when I'm like, the last thing you want to 219 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: do to get a hold of hope for you is 220 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: be super hateful, you know what I mean. You gotta 221 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: finesse it. So I don't know. Maybe he maybe he 222 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: had a background and like some some serious gorilla pimping. 223 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: You know, bitch, I'll kill you if your hope. I 224 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know the stories. I can't really 225 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: put an opinion. You know, over the years, how have 226 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: you dealt with just like, oh, women who might be 227 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 1: mad at you because of your music? How have you 228 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 1: dealt with that? Uh? Well, in life, you gotta have 229 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: your your balance, man, you know what I'm saying. You 230 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: gotta you gotta notice so something that I always did, 231 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: and you can talk to the to the women that 232 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 1: know me, like I would get on that stage and 233 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: that studio and talk a lot of ship. But then 234 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: I'll get off the stage and I'll be like a 235 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: gentleman And even though you know it's it's one players status, 236 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: I'm still running it from like a gentleman aspect. So 237 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: so when you leave the room, they don't go, oh, 238 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:47,719 Speaker 1: I don't think it came here disrespect for us, and 239 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: like it was like damn, I thought he was gonna 240 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: be rude and he was nice. Like it's it's a 241 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: it's a balance in there. So so then when you 242 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: do like um, she's like, I'm just thinking for me 243 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:58,839 Speaker 1: for two weeks and they call me no more, it's 244 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 1: not so bad because I didn't for two weeks. I 245 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: was for two weeks. I wasn't being disrespectful, you know. 246 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: So it's it's a balance. But I tried never to 247 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: walk through life and act like too short you know 248 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like I don't. It doesn't really work 249 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: for me, but I know that people are influenced by me, 250 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 1: and they tried, bitch, what's da bitch, what y'all doing? 251 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: Not bitch. I don't do that myself. Yeah, I'm like, hey, ladies, 252 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 1: what's up. How y'all doing? Which you're getting into like 253 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: it's it's it's player. So um, I just kind of like, 254 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: I just be myself. But would you consider too short 255 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: a character? It's definitely something I made up in my 256 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: room when I was in high school. Just I made 257 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: the shut up. But it's real ingredients, you know what 258 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: I mean. Yeah, it's not. I didn't have to go out. 259 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: I never lied. I did not go out and pimp 260 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: all the holes in Oakland and on the road to 261 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: the game from the True Max and gave it back 262 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: to the I represent the game. But at the same time, 263 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: you know, hos have walked up to me and handing 264 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: me all kind of money. I don't give it back. 265 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: I keep it. I never was like, did you better 266 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: make the quota every day? Like I had a like 267 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: you were never a police pimp. Yah know, I had 268 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 1: a whole give me money for years. I never once 269 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 1: said what can you get off work when you're going out? 270 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,839 Speaker 1: She's just like, I got something for you. Okay. This 271 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: girl walked up to me at a club in Las 272 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: Vegas and said this, I quote her. I never get 273 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: her quote. She said, nig you the reason why I'm 274 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: holding and handing me a little thing of money. It 275 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: was like tiny, it was tiny. It was tiny, but 276 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: I looked at it was a crowded club. I looked 277 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: at it later it was eighteen hundred dollar bills. I 278 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: was like, okay, that's the game coming back to you. 279 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: Was was if a young need pulled up on you, 280 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 1: who just got into this ship, as you would keep 281 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 1: the longe, but what your toe? Um, I just think, 282 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: you know, the work ethic has always been in for me, 283 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: Like and I noticed the people who win in this 284 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: game are always the overachievers. They want to put in 285 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: the most work. So you're sitting there measuring talent and 286 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: skills and all the looks and all that ship. But 287 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 1: it's really the hustler man. The hustler wins in this 288 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: and my whole life, I've been a hustler. Like really, 289 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: my feet on the pavement, I started awful, people say 290 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: too shorts, So tapes out of his trunk. We was 291 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: on foot. We didn't have a car. We were literally 292 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: on the bus with a paper bag full of cassette 293 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: tapes and then selling in the hood and ship. So 294 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: I just think it's the hustle, man. I tell them, 295 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: motherfucker when you put in all this work and you 296 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: get your foot in the door and you look around 297 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, ship, I'm on stage. They loved me. 298 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: I made it like that, Like you should look at 299 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: it like the opposite of that, Like this is where 300 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: it starts started. Yeah, and then every time you have 301 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: to try to figure out how to keep that ship going. 302 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: Every time you set these goals and you achieve, and 303 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: whether you do or not, when you get to that point, 304 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: since more I'm just starting, it starts all over again. 305 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: It ain't no endgame. And when you think like that, 306 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: you're the winner. Yeah. And that's just I mean, it's 307 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: a philosophy that is it's easily said, but it really 308 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: requires you. Like if you're kind of that stay up 309 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: to a for in the morning kicking and you still 310 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: gotta get up in nine and hustle, Like you can't 311 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: be the guy who sleeps all day. You can't be 312 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: the guy who's who delegates and you're like laying around 313 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: the money coming in and and you're like, man, go do that. Man, 314 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: you do that, Like if you ain't doing it, it's 315 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: gonna get away from you. So but I'm hands on. 316 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: They always say like, man, let me, let me do it. 317 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: Like no, brock got it. I carry these boxes, I'll 318 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: i'll do the ship, I'll do to add it up. Whatever. 319 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: So I tell them, mother, hustle hard, that's all. What 320 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: what what year would you say your career started? Well? 321 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: I had a I had a high school career at 322 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: a rap party named Freddie B And we were really 323 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: popular around the Bay. It was cassette takes. We sold 324 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: everybody duplicating them. We was hot. We used to DJ 325 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: house parties in the hood no matter where. We showed 326 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: up at a dance whatever. They love this. And then 327 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: um and I had my little independent career where you know, 328 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: I was on seventy five Girls Records that was a 329 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: little independent level out of Oakland. Then I started my 330 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: own independent level Dame Just Music. And then I signed 331 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: the Drive and the ship went big. I'm on the Easy, 332 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: he called me up. I'm on the the straight out 333 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: of Compton Tour, and I think just started there. That's 334 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: why I really feel like this ship happened. Was that 335 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: straight out of Compton Tour. I was, I was independent, 336 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: have you know, have a lot of money. Drive Records 337 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: came along signed us, and then um, we dropped. I 338 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: dropped the album Life's Too Short. It's my first time 339 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: getting like a radio song. I'm on a radio. I'm 340 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: on the MTV wraps all this ship and an easy 341 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: cast said, you want to go on the tour, get 342 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: out on the stage, just like sold out and you know, man, 343 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, okay, so they gave me this 344 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: much money to make an album. Then I go on 345 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: and I get this much real tour. I'm like, put 346 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: me back in the studio. Let me ask you something 347 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: about that tour too. When I was kind of trying 348 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: to get that so right me if I'm wrong, in 349 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 1: your whole career, you never had security, but not like 350 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: I didn't have security. I didn't have a bodyguard. You 351 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 1: didn't have my bodyguard. Like we were secure, right right 352 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: right right, like it was safe. I had brought the 353 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: right homies I brought. I brought. Um. I used to 354 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 1: go on tour with like Okay, this is what this 355 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: is what I considered real security. So we all hanging 356 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: out and we're in the element wherever it is at 357 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: the party scene. I used like to walk around the 358 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: crowd after to do the show, I get off stage 359 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: and walk through the crowd and take pictures and meet 360 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 1: people and stuff. And I would tell like one or 361 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 1: two guys like guys who like them, guys do that 362 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: through that thing. I'm like, act like you ain't with me. 363 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: So basically we're rolling into like four or five of us, 364 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: but it's like two of us over there on the side. 365 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 1: And then then the dudes that you know, you could 366 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 1: be disrespectful. We ain't evenel like. We used to have 367 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: a look, we like, we had a policy like let's 368 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: get home. Let's get home. So in that policy is 369 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: like like, man, buddy right there was pretty disrespectful, but 370 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 1: that's like that's not gonna fight him right now, stay 371 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: on him for a little while, suck him up later. 372 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 1: And that's how we used to get down. We're like, 373 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: you know, we get our little revenge and get home 374 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: and you wouldn't even know you're like man too short, 375 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: but at the same time you got beat up later 376 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: that night. I didn't even know I did. That's that's 377 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: how we used to get down. And I was like 378 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: I never felt like I just never felt like big 379 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,719 Speaker 1: dudes like to do six eight. It's like I used 380 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: to call him a body bluff. I'm like, if we 381 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: had a big dude, I'm like, you do the body bluff, 382 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 1: but then it didn't really the real dangerous to bow 383 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,360 Speaker 1: the muscles up off. I've seen them big dudes, man, 384 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: Like everybody act different when they go up. Everybody got 385 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: a different reactions. I tend to try to locate, like 386 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, before I get to dive 387 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: in and duck, and I kind of want to locate 388 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: a little bit. Okay, it's over there, and then things 389 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 1: scattering over there, so that's you know what I'm saying. 390 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: I try to evaluate and then I react instead of 391 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: running to the bullets or IV it into him or 392 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 1: some ship. But the big dudes go pop pop up. 393 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 1: You pupposed me, bodyguarded me. Man. The big dudes, they 394 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: get light on their feet when they pop up out 395 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: get up out of that disk over there. So you know, 396 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 1: I'm not saying all big dudes a little big crew 397 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 1: to come around, but it's some it's some tough, fast 398 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: dudes that to fight you. But when they hear that 399 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 1: pop up, niggers would leave you, So would you advise 400 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: in this current state of music, like if you had 401 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: artists or you do probably do have artist, would you 402 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: advise them to now without security? I would talk to 403 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 1: the homies because it seems to me the part that's 404 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: messed up in the in the equation right now is 405 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 1: the homies. So I'm the rapper. They bring us the problem. 406 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: Now we got a problem we gotta deal with. I 407 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: feel like, Okay, I'm the one to make the most 408 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 1: money in the crew. I'm employing a fiel of y'all. 409 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: We're getting money. If I run to the fight and 410 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: get messed off, the whole hustle is over. If they 411 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 1: get to me any kind of way. If it's something happening, 412 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 1: some crimes, get charged with people or something you say 413 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: and I go down, the hustle stops. So the first 414 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: thing you do is like the president, You're like, get 415 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: the money side. But the the ego is like I'm 416 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 1: fighting with my homies. I used to I used to 417 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: ask my homies like, bro, I got money, man, let 418 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: me get in on the dope hustle. Let me get me, 419 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: you know, let me get down. I think it's like Nick, 420 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: if I ever see you selling dope, I'm sucking you 421 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: up like forever, like literally, like my boy explained to 422 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: me one day, he said, man, you get us into 423 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 1: places we can't never get into in life. You take 424 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: this place we could never go. He's like, we need 425 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 1: you to be you. We got this other thing. We're 426 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: doing this, he doing that. We don't need you to 427 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: do we do we we need you to do what 428 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 1: you do. And once I realized that, I was like, Okay, 429 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: like I'm not punking out because I'm not fighting every 430 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: battle with the homies, but they're like, we need we 431 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: don't need you as a soldier, like you're not that 432 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: he even chosen to do some So even if it 433 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: was like like, um, it was a fight one night, 434 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: I had nothing to do with me, nothing to do 435 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: with nobody I'm with, and the fight break out. You know, 436 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: my crew, we we we used to like the scatter. 437 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: We don't really like staying in the pack. So we 438 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: split up, act like winning together. Whatever you do. Get 439 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: two of ye all over the arey'all, we're just cool. 440 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 1: And the dude walk up. He's like, the fight's going 441 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: down way away from me. He's like, made too short 442 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: you okay, and my homies said, bro back up, he said, 443 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: Now I'm just trying to see that was it. He 444 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: could get no more words. He was sleep And it's 445 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: just that's just how we get down. It was like 446 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 1: like we just we're trying to get home. That's the 447 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: only thing we say. Let's get home. Then you feel 448 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 1: like everybody took care of you because you took care 449 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: of them too. Yeah, I I gave it back and 450 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 1: I didn't never have to get extorted or you know 451 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, when nobody bullying me and nothing I 452 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: gave back, Like naturally, I know what I got from Oakland. 453 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: I know what I got. I got everything. So I'm 454 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: like any given time, I knew who to look for, 455 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,479 Speaker 1: who to have put in wet position. And it just 456 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: it's politics, man. No, none of the rep game unexpanded, 457 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,360 Speaker 1: like its like the young needs getting different bad day. Yeah, 458 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,679 Speaker 1: and I think they just a little too involved with 459 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: you know, the o gs before me, they would be 460 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: telling you like you can't let everybody know what you got. 461 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: What I'm saying, like bragging is with social media is 462 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 1: a big thing now and I never I never really 463 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: like condone that really like just just bragging, you know what, 464 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: I'm saying the shows like like see back back in 465 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 1: the day, the shows could be like if you was 466 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 1: getting fitted dollars like the biggest artists. Now these needs 467 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 1: getting like a half of me and me and all 468 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: of them shows. I know. But then the dudes before 469 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 1: me didn't get what we at. We come in and 470 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: late eighties, early nineties we upped it up. We in 471 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 1: the arenas and stuff, and you know, it just kept elevator. 472 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: I feel like, you gotta you gotta be a trailblazer. 473 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: You gotta open doors for the next ones. Like, I 474 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 1: don't know what's what's next after these guys. These guys 475 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: are opening doors for something that's next. What is that is? It? 476 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 1: Is it work? Pretty? I mean, I don't know, got 477 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 1: an athlete contract? Yeah so yeah. But so it's like 478 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: I played my part. If if I saw I had 479 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 1: six platinum albums in a row, if I did that 480 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: right now, you know what I mean that the value 481 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 1: of that would be way more than what I got. 482 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, like what what I could 483 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: do as as six platinums in the row. I was 484 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 1: very popular, but not there was not one corporation that 485 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: was like, let's take this popularity and use him as 486 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: a as doors product, like they didn't want no parts 487 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: of us, Like they barely wanted to let us in 488 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: the arenas even though we could sell them out. They're like, man, 489 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: don't let them duce up in there. Like we couldn't 490 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 1: even get the tours. They was making up ship like 491 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: the insurances too much, all this stuff, so uh to 492 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: see where it's at right now, it's a blessing. I'm 493 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: I'm celebrating for the young homies. I'm like, man, get 494 00:23:53,280 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: that bag like one song when I get big. We're 495 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 1: your favorite new artists, Like I mean, your favorite current artist. 496 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: I never could really like endorse new guys. You gotta 497 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: stick around for a couple of albums, a couple of years. 498 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna name out of somebody that they say you 499 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: you influenced a lot though, And that's Larry June. Yeah. 500 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: A lot of people say Larry June from from from 501 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: the Bay. Yeah, I see Larry June. I'm like some 502 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: like the biggest Bay artist. I'm like a love of 503 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: music man, blah blah blah. He's like Bryce to pitch 504 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: your house. I was five years old. Oh, y'all knew 505 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: each other his family is my family, you know, like 506 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 1: his his people's is my people. Like so it's like 507 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 1: his mom and them. They you know, Oakland and small man. 508 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: The Bay is small and you kind of like a generation. 509 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 1: So we all connected. So I'm connected to his older 510 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: and make sense not How do you think the music 511 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: scene in the Bay was affected by the death of 512 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: mc dre Well. Mc dra went out like a murder, 513 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 1: you know, I mean he was like, he's the guy. 514 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,719 Speaker 1: So you had you got too short forty everybody's gonna say, man, 515 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: they wanted to set it off and then um and 516 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: then you got mac dre and keep the sneak. And 517 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: they came along and they just you know, took all 518 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 1: the youngsters and just whipped them in a frenzy. And 519 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: the HiFi movement and you know, when mc drake got killed, 520 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: it was like uh Martin Luther King in the Bay, 521 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? It was it was that 522 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: would you compare it almost similar to like how when 523 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 1: Nipsey got killed to Los Angeles. It's the same thing. 524 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: It's the same Biggie pock. It's the same loss. And 525 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: I mean they stole his head stone. They mean people 526 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 1: people like to this day in the Bay to this day, 527 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: if you put on any of those Drake classics, I 528 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: mean they go crazy. It's like like I'm the first 529 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: one to do it, multi platinum, all that forty come along. 530 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: He just like like I mean, he's just like songs 531 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: like sprinkle Me and say ooh. He just like like 532 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 1: I'm I'm phoo, like I'm here. But Matt dre was 533 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: like he was like the people's chap, like he he 534 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: never sold records like me and forty, but he was 535 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,679 Speaker 1: the people's chap like you, I could personally go to 536 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 1: the Bay the O G and I say something bad 537 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: about Mac dra I'll be in a fight out there, 538 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: like maybe like O G. I love you, but you're 539 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: just bad talking. That's how much they love that brother. 540 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: So that that his thing that he did though he 541 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 1: was he touched the people like he was the guy 542 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: who danced in the streets with him. You know, he 543 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 1: was that character that they said, I see he's right there, 544 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, real dra Hose Drake went 545 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: to the pin you know, with the with the with 546 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: the joa, with the bank robbers. It was like that's 547 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 1: our guy, you know, I'm the O G. I'm like 548 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 1: I was on before all of them. So it was like, 549 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: like my man missed the fab say. He always tell them. 550 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: He like, man, that's gonna take. He's like to take 551 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: you about eight times to meet too short before he 552 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 1: really knows who you are. So the first seven times, 553 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, what's up on me? Like, like I met 554 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: you for the first time. We didn't met six times already, 555 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: I've been there with you, but I specially like thirty 556 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 1: times you finally got it like on number thirty. No, 557 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: but back to the what what artists that you if 558 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: you could have to say, like I funk with that 559 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: little artist that which wanted to be let's just put 560 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,360 Speaker 1: them in the category. You can tell me who they are. 561 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: So they come in the game and they go, they 562 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: blow up, and we like the music first time around. 563 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: You see that so many times. Second time around, it's 564 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 1: really hard the second time to capture it. But I 565 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,719 Speaker 1: feel like once you get that house and that money 566 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: and ship change and you ain't gotta stand on the 567 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: corner no more, I feel like it gets harder to say, 568 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 1: like like take a young Jeezy. That's one of my 569 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 1: favorites and his rap style. So when he got to 570 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: the fourth and the fifth album, he was still bringing it. 571 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: That's hard to do to still bring that and to 572 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: bring that, to be convincing, to satisfy your fans, and 573 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: to be sitting in the big house with the baddest chick. 574 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 1: She she all on you, the video game or whatever. 575 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: The blunts is flowing like water. It's hard to maintain 576 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 1: in that situation. So I just feel like, if you 577 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: can string it together for some years, man, and you could, 578 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: you could make good music, good shows, satisfy the crowd. 579 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: You know your audience is loving you that. Those are 580 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: my favorite. It's so hard to do it sounds it 581 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: sounds like we like think about all of our rappers 582 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: over the years and like I love that song where 583 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 1: is He? What happened? Like? But how did you do it? Um? 584 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: I'm I care a lot of my credit to like 585 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: my first cousins and my homies because um, at the 586 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: moment in time, the big head is what throws you 587 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: off when you get the big head. So you've got 588 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: the people around you, it's like, you know, like you Gottam, 589 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: you got a rap name, but then you got the 590 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: other name that the your real name, your real nickname, 591 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: them the people that are supposed to keep you grounded. 592 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: And if you get the big head when you start going, man, 593 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: I always look at rappers like this, something like so 594 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: and so just stepped up fire his whole crew. That's 595 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: always a bad sign when you get back, when you 596 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,719 Speaker 1: get rid of the people you came up with. I'm like, 597 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: you don't understand. It's not it's not you, Like too 598 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: Short has never been just me. Too Short is all 599 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: of Oakland. It's my whole crew, it's my family. Like, 600 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: it's a lot of elements to what makes too Short. 601 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: I don't when I sit around, I'll tell you, like 602 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: a crazy story. I'm in a song. I might be 603 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: telling you my homeboy story and I'm saying like I 604 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: needed them needed to be at that Domino table and 605 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: hear the ships talking, I'm like, that's them songs. So 606 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: um when you when you shake the crew and the 607 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: ship don't work, it ain't no going back across that bridge. Man, 608 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,959 Speaker 1: you're burning bridges. I just think my favorite rappers are 609 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: the ones like the t I s. You know what 610 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 1: I'm saying. And when you say young rappers, they ain't 611 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: really got that level yet of of show improve you know, 612 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: so I'm just I'm just waiting, like like I used 613 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: to have my I old future, and I'm like I 614 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: want to know because I know him before. I'm like, 615 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: I wanted this, he gonna make it, And he made it. 616 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: He made it over the second album, third album, saying 617 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 1: like and you watch him like I get really proud 618 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: when they get over the hump, and I'm like, Okay, 619 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: figure it out. And I look at you. You're rolling 620 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: up with the fifty man entourage people and you're employing 621 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: people and stuff. Once you start, your bag is big 622 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: enough to pay other people. I'm like, now you're doing 623 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: it right, you know what I'm saying. Then something then 624 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: you get the offspring. You're like everybody we like, we 625 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: like trees. All of us are like trees. And everything 626 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: that you create from your tree is another one of 627 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: your branches, you know what I'm saying. And you take 628 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 1: um take a tree like Easy. Let's take away Easy 629 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: and who was his tree? Branches? Dr Dre you know 630 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: ice C and then Dre branch off the Snoop dog 631 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: em and them said like like but if with all 632 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: that happened, if Easy didn't sell dope and flippers dope 633 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: and by studio and produce an album and hook up 634 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: Dr Drake. What I mean, what do we get? Like? 635 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: What is your tree? What not? Just you? What do you? 636 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: What are you gonna branch out to be? So that's 637 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: a good question. Those are my favorite rappers in the 638 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: Bible for my niggas, like my youngsters who are going 639 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,719 Speaker 1: to turn into tree branch trees and and the branches. 640 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: And then my favorite rapper, what's gonna come from you? Yeah? So, 641 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: and you can't figure that out on your first album. 642 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: You can't figure out off the first two or three 643 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: times out. You gotta stick around. You gotta go through 644 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: some some some stuff. They gotta push you and test you. 645 00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: You gotta you know, can you can you? Can you 646 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: blow up? Fall the funk off and blow back up again? 647 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: Can you do that? Because that's what's that's longevity. I 648 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: I didn't stay on always like it was. It was times. Man, 649 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: he's sitting there trying to figure it out. You gotta 650 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: figure that out. So let me ask you this um, 651 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: just going back to something you were saying where you 652 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: were just speaking on about how basically Oakland gave you everything, 653 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 1: so you gave back Oakland. Have you ever had to 654 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: deal with somebody that you've given back to that didn't 655 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: reciprocate that giveback or that didn't appreciate it and kind 656 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: of flip the script on you. Uh. I've had a 657 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: lot of politics in my life, and I just think 658 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: that I got those good people around me and we 659 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: just deal with everything hit on and Yeah, I've had 660 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: I've had yeah, you know, bite the hand that feeds 661 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: you situations. Yeah, I've had that. I've had people who 662 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: I helped out in a major way. I didn't really 663 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: like manager right to help, and then they come back 664 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: and help again. I'm like, ain't no more help and 665 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: they get mad. I'm like, bro, that was the that 666 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: was the one time it hit. I hit you. You're 667 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: supposed to get out and you didn't get down. So um. 668 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: But I also have I'm not gonna drop names I have. 669 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: I have people that like I have people that's like, man, 670 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: I just just point me in somebody's direction, somebody that 671 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: you don't like. I'm like, it's cool right now. So 672 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: you know, it's like a lot of people know, people 673 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 1: have found out that I did some really good favorites 674 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: for some really powerful people, and you know, and never 675 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: got a favor in return, and they're like, let me 676 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: know when. So a lot of people know like like 677 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 1: just leave do it alone, because like when, because when 678 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: you come at him and don't just be him getting 679 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 1: back at you. They come from everywhere, Like I got 680 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 1: I'm I'm in the Gangster Network and I don't know 681 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: if you know about it, but it's it's nation wide, worldwide. 682 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: I'm in on the network. So how does that? I mean, like, 683 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: so when you when you're dealing with those people that 684 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: don't reciprocate properly how they're supposed to, how do you 685 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 1: prevent that from like internally affecting your mental as far 686 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: as you wanting to do something for other people? You 687 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 1: see what I'm saying, does how do you prevent that 688 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: from making you not want to stop doing? Because the 689 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 1: game is a thing. It's not this game you run 690 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 1: on people. The game is an entity. It's a thing. 691 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: It's this knowledge that you have, it's the way you roll, 692 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: it's where you fit in you and your game. And 693 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,760 Speaker 1: I think that when you try to give it to somebody, 694 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:44,800 Speaker 1: you're giving it to them because you think they're worthy 695 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: of it. So when you find out that person not worthing. 696 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: You give it to the ones who just keep giving it. 697 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 1: You don't stop giving. Like I'm a giver, so you 698 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 1: don't stop. You don't stop giving just because that person 699 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: messed it up like a O. These things ain't doing 700 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: no more. It ain't like that. It's like like you 701 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: cut that part off and then you move on to 702 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 1: this part, and I just don't even think about it 703 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 1: anymore because I believe that this thing, when when you 704 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: get it and you figured out you gotta share it, 705 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: you don't you don't deserve You don't deserve it if 706 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: you don't share it. Yeah, I feel the same way. 707 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: I feel the same way. So that's the blessings because um, 708 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 1: little things, I mean little things from just a moment 709 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 1: of time and a little bit of advice, uh just 710 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 1: um actual help, like stepping stones in somebody's life. These 711 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: levels that we go to, like the little guy. I've 712 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 1: been around a long time. The little guy always seems 713 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: to blow up bigger than you. And it's like a 714 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: lot of people in our industry have a tendency to 715 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 1: shoot on the little It's a natural fucking thing. It's like, 716 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 1: get my thing to it. You just treat them bad 717 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 1: like you ain't. You ain't up here with us, But 718 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: you don't realize that they remember that ship. And if 719 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 1: you've been a good if you've been a good energy 720 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 1: throughout this ship, like ship come back at least expected, 721 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: at least expect like you. You'd be in a situation 722 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,879 Speaker 1: where you might be needing a financial play and one 723 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 1: of your little homies that blew up like I got you. 724 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 1: You might be somewhere outnumbered in a situation somebody roll 725 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: about the blue go, but you have the problem. I'll 726 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,799 Speaker 1: make you good. It weird like dam I didn't even know, Like, yeah, 727 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 1: so same thing. You could have shipped on them, but 728 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 1: you didn't, and now they're saving you exactly. So I 729 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 1: just I just think you gotta treat everybody in the 730 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,439 Speaker 1: same You gotta you gotta respect, disrespect the people that 731 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 1: that earned it, that that deserve it. But outside of that, 732 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:33,879 Speaker 1: respect people up and to the point where they don't 733 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:38,280 Speaker 1: just earn your respect. Yeah, exactly. One milestone in your career. 734 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 1: You you you were you were the first rapper to retired. 735 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,360 Speaker 1: You're retired, right, So the two things I guess I 736 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 1: ask is what sparked that retirement? And then on the 737 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 1: On the other end, there were people that said what 738 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,479 Speaker 1: the retirement might have been, like a marketing moll, could 739 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 1: you elaborate a little bit on the two short retirement 740 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: and coming out of the retirement. It was both On 741 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 1: the inside, it was the most publicity I got for 742 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 1: free outside of UM. The only thing that that might 743 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 1: have topped that was TMZ got me running from the police. 744 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 1: That that that might have been really good free press too. 745 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 1: But so I was thirty years old, I had I 746 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,360 Speaker 1: was releasing my tenth album, and I'm like, on these numbers, 747 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 1: I'm like were talking in if you was a thirties something, 748 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: you're a rapper. It went like this and that, oh 749 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 1: that's Nick is still rapping like it was it was 750 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 1: like thirty something. He was like an O O G 751 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: O G. And I just decided, like it was the numbers. 752 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 1: I like ten albums, all of them platinum, gold, I'm 753 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 1: turning thirty, I retired, I quit, I'm walking away from 754 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 1: the game. And it sounded real good. But then I 755 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 1: dropped the album and reality said it and it's like 756 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 1: if the album was getting an album number ten, And 757 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 1: that's when they started like renegotiating, don't you want this stop. 758 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: My phone start blowing up. They're like, oh, you're gonna retire. Uh? 759 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:08,879 Speaker 1: Can I get you on a song and start doing 760 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 1: all these features and stuff. I'm like, man, giving this up. 761 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 1: It was still on the car, man, I ain't. So 762 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 1: you know. I came back with the next album is 763 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 1: called Can't Stay Away, and I'm like, man, my first album, 764 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 1: the first time they ever put me in the studio, 765 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:26,879 Speaker 1: I'm making an out and they said, what you wanna 766 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 1: name the album? I'm thinking, like women Now, I'm like, 767 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 1: name it. Don't stop rapping? Like why that? I'm like, 768 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 1: because I ain't gonna never stop rapping. So so that's 769 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: my that's my career theme is don't stop rapping. I 770 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,239 Speaker 1: just turned fifty six and I'm still fucking rapping and 771 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 1: I'm about to do a sold out show tonight and 772 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 1: the next night and the next weekend, and I'm like, 773 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,759 Speaker 1: the wheels ain't falling and fell off yet. So let's roll. 774 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:55,279 Speaker 1: Ye had your first child or your daughter at fifty two? Yep, 775 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 1: fifty two, and I was going, first kid, you've been 776 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: with your wife for twenty two years, You've been on it, 777 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 1: You've been on Wikipedia. That's a lie. That is hilarious. 778 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:13,800 Speaker 1: So somebody on Wikipedia, somebody on Wikipedia, keep well, I 779 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,399 Speaker 1: didn't have this deleted a hundred times and keep putting 780 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 1: it back up that I read it to. I try 781 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 1: to research it myself. It was a wife. It's on 782 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 1: a couple of other websites. It's like I tucked her 783 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 1: away somewhere in New Mexico and she got a bunch 784 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 1: of babies, and uh, they'd be saying like names like Esperanza. 785 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,839 Speaker 1: So I've seen name like Erica or something, and then 786 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 1: then they're putting like I've seen one where they like 787 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 1: got this name and the story, but then the pictures 788 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,880 Speaker 1: goopolade and I'm like, she from Oakland. I'm like, you 789 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 1: know we're married, right, It's just uh, I don't know, 790 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 1: Like I don't know why they would do that. I've 791 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 1: never been married, never beeny gays, never never lying. I've 792 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 1: only in my life twice even had like a living 793 00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 1: like girlfriend, Like I I'm care of that ship, like 794 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 1: for real, like it's it's it's um, what frightens you 795 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 1: about it? Because of the lifestyle. I chose a certain 796 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 1: lifestyle the young age. I wanted to have fun. I 797 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,359 Speaker 1: wanted all right, let me let me give you a story. 798 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,759 Speaker 1: First tour I ever went on, straight out of Compton tour. 799 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 1: I swear to god, I was in love with my girlfriend. 800 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,800 Speaker 1: I wouldn't even bite my tongue and hesitating. So I 801 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:31,720 Speaker 1: was in love. And the flight was booked. Tours booked. 802 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 1: First stop was Nashville. I'll kiss my girlfriend. I love you, baby. 803 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 1: Uh you know I'm calling you every day all day. 804 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 1: As soon as the fucking plane touchdown, I never talked 805 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 1: to her ever again, never again, like I never soon 806 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 1: the plane says, I started having fun. I was like, 807 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,440 Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to dog her and nothing. I was 808 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 1: just like, that would be so unfair to keep her 809 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,279 Speaker 1: in this, would it be? Would you can there that 810 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:04,399 Speaker 1: self sabotage? Yeah, But I'm the part of the point 811 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 1: I'm saying is Okay, I'll meet you, fall in love 812 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 1: with you. We're hanging out a month or two and 813 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, here I'm at this ship and now 814 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:16,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, i gotta say, look, I love you, but 815 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 1: I can't be in love. I can't do this because 816 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,799 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not gonna be with just you. I'm 817 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 1: never gonna be around and I just I used to 818 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,400 Speaker 1: just keep it real, you like, and they're like, but 819 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 1: I want to be you. I'm like, but you understand 820 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,719 Speaker 1: what being with me is. It ain't cool. I'm telling 821 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 1: you right now, I'm not cool. And I just leave 822 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,800 Speaker 1: it at that. So I'm like, I used to get difficult. 823 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 1: I had this one safety mechanism where I was just 824 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 1: coming to door going They're like, well, you know, I 825 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 1: like you a little bit, you seeing anybody. I'm like, yeah, 826 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,439 Speaker 1: I got a girlfriend, but I'm I'm lying, I don't 827 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 1: really have a girlfriend. And like, you got a girlfriend, 828 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 1: get it. I'm like, but she don't live out here. 829 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 1: She lives in another city. So that would be my 830 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,839 Speaker 1: safety mechanism for like not getting to attach ye get 831 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 1: involved with her and if you ever see me somewhere, like, 832 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:02,880 Speaker 1: what are you doing? Who was that? I told you 833 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 1: I had a girlfriend when I met you, Like, it 834 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 1: just was all these different safety mechanisms, and I just 835 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,799 Speaker 1: I love falling in love. I just didn't like being 836 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:15,840 Speaker 1: in love. That I'm just saying. But a lot of 837 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,840 Speaker 1: niggas will stay in the relationship and drag her through it, 838 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 1: have kids with her, she living there, and n is 839 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,800 Speaker 1: just living life and I'm like, I didn't want to 840 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,719 Speaker 1: do that to anybody. So at that point, I never 841 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 1: let that get into my life, and so you never 842 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,400 Speaker 1: you never goddamn taking one a biss be like okay, 843 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 1: well queen, we should we be trying not to call 844 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 1: them bitches so much. We got two short hells right 845 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,760 Speaker 1: when they'd be like, well, I'm willing to take whatever 846 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 1: come with you. Yeall had that that scares me to like, like, like, Nigi, 847 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:47,839 Speaker 1: you could do whatever you want, just don't bring nothing home. 848 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,480 Speaker 1: I'm scary, Like what the fun you're gonna be doing? Yeah, 849 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I got the green light 850 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,800 Speaker 1: like like you on yellow red with you on. So 851 00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,560 Speaker 1: that scared me too, So I didn't I didn't like 852 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 1: that one. Uh but I did have a lot of 853 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 1: fun in Atlanta because I used to find a figure 854 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 1: that the the best the best best friend was always 855 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,280 Speaker 1: like a girl that like girls, that's the best best friend. 856 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,319 Speaker 1: So it's like instead of hanging out with a bunch 857 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,279 Speaker 1: of the homies, I would hang out with a bunch 858 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,839 Speaker 1: of girls and I'd be like, you know, chicks did 859 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 1: like chicks, And I'm like it just makes life easier, 860 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,719 Speaker 1: you know, like, it's just like we're competing for the 861 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 1: same thing. You know, girls get girls way easier than dudes. Dude, 862 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 1: And it was fun. It was fun. Man. I was 863 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:34,799 Speaker 1: spoiled out here. Man. I got to the point out 864 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 1: here where I was like one girl, like I'm going 865 00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 1: home only I can only get one girl tonight, a 866 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,400 Speaker 1: boy myself. I'm like, if unless there's two and more, 867 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,759 Speaker 1: I'm not doing it. I was like that for a 868 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 1: long time. That's probably why I moved away from here, 869 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,480 Speaker 1: because it was I was doing. I was doing too much. 870 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,600 Speaker 1: So what made you decide to have a kid. I 871 00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:02,359 Speaker 1: didn't decide, it happened. What I decided was I must 872 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:06,440 Speaker 1: stop trying to not have kids. So it got to 873 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,799 Speaker 1: a point where I had a really bad experience at 874 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 1: a young age. And I've told the story a few times, 875 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,839 Speaker 1: not a lot, but I had a really bad experience where, um, 876 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,200 Speaker 1: I had I had a girlfriend in high school, got pregnant, 877 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,040 Speaker 1: shot abortion. Uh that that kid would have been like 878 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 1: that in four years old, now something. Um, I had 879 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,320 Speaker 1: another girlfriend when I got out of high school that 880 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:32,719 Speaker 1: got pregnant, shout an abortion. And then I I got 881 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:37,200 Speaker 1: a third girlfriend pregnant and we talked about it, and 882 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:41,400 Speaker 1: she's like, she said, the only way I have this 883 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,800 Speaker 1: baby is if we get married. I'm like, whoa, we 884 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,799 Speaker 1: ain't getting married. And she's like, well, I'm not having 885 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:51,800 Speaker 1: no baby. And I went with her to the place 886 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:57,440 Speaker 1: and they called me in the room. There's like she 887 00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 1: she needs you. So I go in this room while 888 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,160 Speaker 1: it's it is going down. It's like these noises and stuff, 889 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 1: and and I'm I'm trying not to look, but I 890 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:09,040 Speaker 1: messed up and I looked and I could never erase 891 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:14,239 Speaker 1: what I saw. Uh I was. We left. She was 892 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:18,759 Speaker 1: like major depressed. She wouldn't talk for days. And then 893 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,720 Speaker 1: my birthday came around and and my girlfriend just cried 894 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,040 Speaker 1: all like hours and hours and hours, and I finally 895 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 1: got her to stop crying and just say what's wrong. 896 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,319 Speaker 1: And she said, this has messed me up for life? 897 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 1: This why had no kid? She said, um, she said, 898 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,680 Speaker 1: I didn't want to have an abortion. I just wanted 899 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 1: you to say that you didn't want me to have 900 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:49,279 Speaker 1: an abortion. And she said it's your birth the reason 901 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,239 Speaker 1: why she was crying. She said, your birthday and the 902 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,279 Speaker 1: only birthday present I was a half for you. I 903 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:54,919 Speaker 1: was gonna tell you I was pregnant with your son, 904 00:45:55,760 --> 00:46:00,320 Speaker 1: and I just took all that like like like I 905 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,840 Speaker 1: was trying to do the right thing. Like she's like, 906 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,120 Speaker 1: I don't want to get married, and I'm like, I 907 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:05,880 Speaker 1: don't want to get married, but we can't have this baby. 908 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,680 Speaker 1: I'm sitting there trying to do the right man thing 909 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,120 Speaker 1: and she's like, I just wanted you all when he 910 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,719 Speaker 1: was driving up, walking up, I just want you to stay. 911 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:17,759 Speaker 1: Don't do it. And I didn't say it. And after 912 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,279 Speaker 1: that that was that was the end of my like 913 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,120 Speaker 1: just you know, I think to make a baby, you 914 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:24,880 Speaker 1: gotta like do it, do it, do it, and then 915 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,359 Speaker 1: when you come you gotta let go and just fall 916 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,279 Speaker 1: and just let it go and just sink in and 917 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:35,400 Speaker 1: just marinate. And you know what I'm saying, that's I 918 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:39,520 Speaker 1: don't know if that's true, but I thought that in 919 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,480 Speaker 1: my mind. I was like, you gotta fall and relax 920 00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 1: and stay in there. That's what I didn't do until 921 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,080 Speaker 1: I was That's what I didn't do. I didn't fall 922 00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,279 Speaker 1: and relax and I'll jump out and run away. And 923 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 1: I had many arguments like why you keep doing that? 924 00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,960 Speaker 1: And I just I'm a point. How there's anything that's 925 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,360 Speaker 1: but you're not. You're not getting this. So if it 926 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,040 Speaker 1: wasn't strapped, then it was I was. It was all 927 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:11,759 Speaker 1: over the room anywhere, but in there it was. I 928 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,360 Speaker 1: think if I haven't had therapy, but if I did 929 00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,800 Speaker 1: have therapy, I think it's it's some other things in 930 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:22,360 Speaker 1: there and you need to go get that done. But 931 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, like, my daughter is very therapeutic 932 00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 1: to all of that stuff. All of that, all of 933 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:33,279 Speaker 1: those dysfunctional things that I was believing and stuff. I 934 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:34,880 Speaker 1: think she kind of got rid of a lot of that. 935 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,840 Speaker 1: So now I'm like, I'm a granddaddy daddy. That's what 936 00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,840 Speaker 1: I call it. Because all by homies a granddaddy's and 937 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:42,960 Speaker 1: their kids are their grandkids are the same age as 938 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,839 Speaker 1: my kids. So I called myself I'm a grandaddy daddy, 939 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,439 Speaker 1: which you know, Grant, when you're a grandfather, you treat 940 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,240 Speaker 1: your grandkids better than you treated your own kids because 941 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:55,480 Speaker 1: you're like, you're a better father at this time. Write me, 942 00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,759 Speaker 1: so you know, I'm I feel like I'm being a 943 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,280 Speaker 1: late bloomer as a father is a is a blessing 944 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,080 Speaker 1: for a guy like me. I don't think I would 945 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,719 Speaker 1: have did it right at a young age. I think 946 00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,480 Speaker 1: I would have these uh really just functional relationships with 947 00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,719 Speaker 1: my kids that my older kids that I would have had. 948 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,439 Speaker 1: And I'm kind of glad I didn't do it because 949 00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,279 Speaker 1: I'm I would have been a bad person. What type 950 00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,440 Speaker 1: of you think you're gonna have the in stealing to 951 00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,759 Speaker 1: your daughter so she won't make it wrong. I'm gonna 952 00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:26,560 Speaker 1: do like I did everybody else. Just give it a game, 953 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,680 Speaker 1: do run with it. Run with it. It's the game 954 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:34,080 Speaker 1: you could. You know, it will set you free, but 955 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,640 Speaker 1: it also it also turned around and bite you. But 956 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,680 Speaker 1: it's like, what's some ship that you like to do, 957 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:44,800 Speaker 1: like when you're not being too short that you enjoy 958 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,160 Speaker 1: or you know what I'm saying that you like like 959 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,600 Speaker 1: getting done like activities or you know what I'm saying 960 00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,279 Speaker 1: anything like that. Like I'm just a social guy. Man, 961 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,440 Speaker 1: I'm a social guy. I do anything that we can 962 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,040 Speaker 1: do as a group and go out and kicking. I 963 00:48:56,080 --> 00:49:00,080 Speaker 1: don't care if it's bowling, go to top golf, I 964 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,239 Speaker 1: don't care what it is. We go, we can go, 965 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:07,359 Speaker 1: get on the water, jet skids. I was zip line. 966 00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,880 Speaker 1: I never zip line, but I feel like zip line 967 00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,239 Speaker 1: in Hawaii is in my near future. That's one of 968 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,080 Speaker 1: the things. It's funny you said, because that's one of 969 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,400 Speaker 1: the things that I've always been saying, like, bro, I 970 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,960 Speaker 1: gotta do this, and I just ain't never been the 971 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,160 Speaker 1: right place right trying to do it. And I don't 972 00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:26,040 Speaker 1: want to do it like indoors somewhere. I want to 973 00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:31,640 Speaker 1: be outdoors. If you falla dudes don't go to coast 974 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:37,680 Speaker 1: to Rica to zip line what they go phone, I 975 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:45,400 Speaker 1: asked me, you know what they go for. Stop playing 976 00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:57,399 Speaker 1: We're not get big. Is there any lyric a song 977 00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:01,840 Speaker 1: of verse you would take back? Like, oh man, I 978 00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,880 Speaker 1: mean so certain words like change the meaning chains over 979 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,239 Speaker 1: the years to get a little a little political. Um, 980 00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:13,279 Speaker 1: you know, you have a lyrics that would be too 981 00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:20,160 Speaker 1: much for today's So I said some things that you know, 982 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,000 Speaker 1: but I mean, but a large part of what I 983 00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,520 Speaker 1: was doing was like it was like shock rap, you know. 984 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,600 Speaker 1: I was saying, I was writing this stuff down like 985 00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,359 Speaker 1: I'm writing a song and I'm writing the punch lines 986 00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,239 Speaker 1: before i even write the song. So I'm like, I'm 987 00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:36,280 Speaker 1: gonna say, uh she she uh she choked on Sperman 988 00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,880 Speaker 1: the windpipe and died. That's that was that's the punch line. 989 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:41,960 Speaker 1: So then I write, I wrote a song called blow 990 00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,440 Speaker 1: Joe Betty, and I'm like, I know the end of 991 00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:46,719 Speaker 1: the song she's gonna choke on the sperm and died 992 00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:47,880 Speaker 1: and now I have to figure out how she got 993 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,279 Speaker 1: to that. And it's just it's funny, you know. So 994 00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,719 Speaker 1: do the words were sensitive? No for like for like 995 00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,560 Speaker 1: rapping comedians and all this ship Like no, Like I 996 00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,239 Speaker 1: feel bad for the comedians, man, because that's that's like 997 00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,640 Speaker 1: you're letting that loose of the audience member or on 998 00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,799 Speaker 1: the topic, was like, that's that's what comedy is. Now 999 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:08,600 Speaker 1: a comedian can't say the stuff they're supposed to say, 1000 00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:10,920 Speaker 1: the stuff we can't say, and now they can't say it. So, 1001 00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,759 Speaker 1: you know, rappers were in that category to you think 1002 00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,200 Speaker 1: the council culture would have got a hold of you 1003 00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,640 Speaker 1: back in the day if if it was now now 1004 00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,920 Speaker 1: the council people and yeah, yeah, I don't think they 1005 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,919 Speaker 1: would even let a too short get in the game 1006 00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:27,480 Speaker 1: because I was damn, I'm like, I dropped the bitch, 1007 00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,920 Speaker 1: I beat the bitch up and dropped traffic Kaiser like 1008 00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,479 Speaker 1: she was in the trunk of the car. Like they're 1009 00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:36,400 Speaker 1: like get rid of this. You got to go. You 1010 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,880 Speaker 1: had to keep it independent. Yeah, man, I said some stuff, 1011 00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:43,480 Speaker 1: but you know, like I said, the balance, the balance 1012 00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:47,920 Speaker 1: of too Short has always been the humor, like like 1013 00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:51,880 Speaker 1: making funny, like really just say that, like making funny. 1014 00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:56,480 Speaker 1: And I have a very special way of wording like 1015 00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:01,080 Speaker 1: negative things about women. Every time I say something negative 1016 00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:05,080 Speaker 1: about a woman, a woman, I say her, So I 1017 00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:09,239 Speaker 1: say I'm talking about her. So you're listening, I'm not 1018 00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,560 Speaker 1: talking about you, You're talking about her. And you're like, yeah, 1019 00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,360 Speaker 1: I know. Bits like that because so it always it 1020 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:19,040 Speaker 1: never falls on you. Yeah, it's not in general. Yeah, 1021 00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,160 Speaker 1: it's just you know, and then you know, you gotta 1022 00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,960 Speaker 1: in real life. You gotta realize, um, that all women 1023 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,800 Speaker 1: aren't bitches like you. When you like, I'm not a 1024 00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:32,120 Speaker 1: bitching up. You you claiming that you know what I'm saying, like, 1025 00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:36,200 Speaker 1: that's my bitch. You're claiming that she's she's Yeah, that's 1026 00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:40,919 Speaker 1: my business exactly. But you know when when that ship 1027 00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,080 Speaker 1: don't apply, well that that word to get getting nigga 1028 00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,640 Speaker 1: sucked up? You know what I mean? Which Almo song 1029 00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:50,160 Speaker 1: you think made the biggest impact in your career? Though? Um, 1030 00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:54,160 Speaker 1: life is too short, so the most it's the only 1031 00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:59,080 Speaker 1: one I got this double platinum. I um blow the 1032 00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:02,359 Speaker 1: Whistle is the impactful song I haven't made. I made 1033 00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,160 Speaker 1: that when I was forty years old. Album NUM was 1034 00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:09,920 Speaker 1: sixteen um like mainstream, but I think I think it 1035 00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:17,239 Speaker 1: probably was the most pivotal album for what I was doing, 1036 00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:22,000 Speaker 1: like it it was musically it's my favorite album because 1037 00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,000 Speaker 1: we have been doing some stuff up until that point 1038 00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:27,560 Speaker 1: that we perfected on that album. And then I turned 1039 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,200 Speaker 1: a corner after that album where it wasn't the same 1040 00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,879 Speaker 1: production crew anymore, and you could tell, you could tell 1041 00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:36,200 Speaker 1: I never captured that sound again, like that's the classic 1042 00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:40,480 Speaker 1: too short sound from like Born to mac to like 1043 00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,640 Speaker 1: getting it that's too short. And then I was doing 1044 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:45,799 Speaker 1: you know, I went to other places and other things 1045 00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,359 Speaker 1: and extended the career with the help of Little John 1046 00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,520 Speaker 1: and Jazz Faye, and you know, start doing different stuff 1047 00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,959 Speaker 1: Little John style. Little John took me out the trunk 1048 00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,400 Speaker 1: of the car and put me in the club. And uh, 1049 00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,000 Speaker 1: I think him for that, because I was never trying 1050 00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,040 Speaker 1: to make club songs until I got with him. And 1051 00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,080 Speaker 1: then all and then there's people now they go, man, 1052 00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:05,759 Speaker 1: you here two shorts make two shots, make the music 1053 00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:07,920 Speaker 1: gonna shake your ass. I'm like, it really wasn't me 1054 00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:13,399 Speaker 1: at first, but I learned how to do it for real. 1055 00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,640 Speaker 1: What features you see yourself in twenty two doing? Like 1056 00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:18,759 Speaker 1: if you could call out a feature that you want 1057 00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,640 Speaker 1: to do, who would it be? Right now, I'm trying 1058 00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:23,719 Speaker 1: to get out with a big seane because you know 1059 00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:28,680 Speaker 1: with you trade like that, um um, you would have 1060 00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,520 Speaker 1: killed I don't funk with you. He told the story 1061 00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,880 Speaker 1: that he was he was on the fence, he was 1062 00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,200 Speaker 1: gonna call me. Then he then didn't switch to forty. 1063 00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,279 Speaker 1: But I mean he did the right He did the 1064 00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,880 Speaker 1: right things happing into the bay for that one. I 1065 00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,320 Speaker 1: started to do a remix for that song that that 1066 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,680 Speaker 1: was called It's Not Too Late. It was it was 1067 00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:49,960 Speaker 1: kind of corny. Concept was kind of corny, but it 1068 00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:51,799 Speaker 1: came across my mind. I was gonna do a song 1069 00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:53,440 Speaker 1: called I Do Funk with You, and it was it 1070 00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:56,000 Speaker 1: was about the bitches, like I really do funk with you. 1071 00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,280 Speaker 1: Ris Like like when they say we don't love him hosts, 1072 00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:03,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, we love the host They get the money right. 1073 00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:06,680 Speaker 1: We got this ship called Big Fast Friday Tool. We 1074 00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,080 Speaker 1: just talked about this random life stuff. So what would 1075 00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:12,640 Speaker 1: you say to a homeboy or a man if he 1076 00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:16,040 Speaker 1: unless use the term going out sad by the female, 1077 00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,520 Speaker 1: like like basically not the player of the pen, but 1078 00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,239 Speaker 1: he on the other side of it, Like maybe he's 1079 00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,640 Speaker 1: giving them money, she's taking it to somebody else or whatever. 1080 00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:25,759 Speaker 1: But this is one of your people. Like what would 1081 00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:28,279 Speaker 1: you do to try to maybe I don't know the word, 1082 00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,840 Speaker 1: to save him, or would you try to intervene or 1083 00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:32,759 Speaker 1: would you just mind your If I say, my homie 1084 00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:34,399 Speaker 1: has been like a super trick in a situation going 1085 00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:40,759 Speaker 1: outside going out sad? What do we say in Oakland ship? 1086 00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:43,920 Speaker 1: Because that's just like some like it's not a lot 1087 00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,080 Speaker 1: of sympathy for bitchass niggers, you know, like it's just 1088 00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:48,120 Speaker 1: not a lot. But this is your partner though he 1089 00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,320 Speaker 1: just caught one female that just sunking with his brain 1090 00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:58,360 Speaker 1: and this is not the player. Yeah, I'm trying to 1091 00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:00,719 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think, how you saw so you just 1092 00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:04,040 Speaker 1: let him go drown You post a second before that happens, 1093 00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,839 Speaker 1: not after the should happen. You can't come back from 1094 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,719 Speaker 1: that ship. I'm trying to think because I just I 1095 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,560 Speaker 1: have no sympathy. I'm like, I'm just like like a 1096 00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:16,279 Speaker 1: bit like like literally like as a dude, I don't 1097 00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,959 Speaker 1: have no feelings for your feelings. You know what I'm saying. 1098 00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,200 Speaker 1: And like Nigga like we actually you know what we're 1099 00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,480 Speaker 1: gonna do. I don't know what we're gonna do. We're 1100 00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:28,080 Speaker 1: gonna tell fucking jokes in your face to you, to 1101 00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,919 Speaker 1: you cry some more and to you. Fucking the jokes 1102 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,719 Speaker 1: is funny to YouTube, like fucking like we I mean 1103 00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,239 Speaker 1: we it's go get real intense, like we was on 1104 00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,319 Speaker 1: the tour bus. On the tour bus, you can't run, 1105 00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:43,440 Speaker 1: you can't. We're on the bus and you got your 1106 00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:46,799 Speaker 1: heartbroke last year. That ship coming up like member, oh girl, 1107 00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,000 Speaker 1: didn't you last year? I mean we're running that for 1108 00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:52,480 Speaker 1: like hours, like Nigga, I didn't have to home me 1109 00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:55,439 Speaker 1: to dig into me, like I'm like like wiping a tear. 1110 00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,600 Speaker 1: Niggas laughing so hard that she's like damn, like damn, 1111 00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:02,319 Speaker 1: I got me. I fell in love and niggas called 1112 00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,040 Speaker 1: me Shorty to lover, like I got an album called 1113 00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,440 Speaker 1: My album was called Shorty the Pimp. Niggs called me 1114 00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:09,520 Speaker 1: Shorty to lover for like a year like me, ain't 1115 00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:14,479 Speaker 1: shorty to pimp mean I bore me out? You still 1116 00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:16,560 Speaker 1: let it? Uh what album? So you're about to put 1117 00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,840 Speaker 1: out album? What number is this? I forgot lost County. 1118 00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:23,720 Speaker 1: I felt like it's twenty something like low twenties. But 1119 00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,280 Speaker 1: I lost count because it was album number sixteen, and 1120 00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,280 Speaker 1: I remember sixteen that was getting it out and that 1121 00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:32,520 Speaker 1: was the Born Blow the Whistle album. But I can't 1122 00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:34,760 Speaker 1: I lost County after that because I don't know, I 1123 00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:40,040 Speaker 1: stopped giving the fun I just noticed about them. I'm 1124 00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:44,080 Speaker 1: in the studio to three days a week. Um. During 1125 00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:48,160 Speaker 1: the quarantine, I did a lot, Like I recorded fifty 1126 00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:51,720 Speaker 1: songs with Cube and E forty and Snoop Dogg. We 1127 00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:57,520 Speaker 1: got fifty unreleased uh My Westmore songs. Me personally, during 1128 00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:01,400 Speaker 1: that quarantine, I probably knocked out about sixties seventies songs. 1129 00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:05,280 Speaker 1: That's just like you know, in the can. Since then, 1130 00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,880 Speaker 1: I'm in there like two or three days a week. 1131 00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,040 Speaker 1: I go in there and just mess around and you know, 1132 00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,840 Speaker 1: put you know, fix with songs up and ask some stuff. 1133 00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,440 Speaker 1: I do a lot of verses for other people. I 1134 00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,640 Speaker 1: feel like that's you know, that's a big part of longevity. 1135 00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:26,160 Speaker 1: But is uh, you know, doing like local songs for 1136 00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,840 Speaker 1: people somewhere in Indiana and Michigan somewhere, and you're like 1137 00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,600 Speaker 1: that song might only be in that hood, but you're 1138 00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:36,720 Speaker 1: famous in that one hood. And I do UM. I 1139 00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:41,000 Speaker 1: just feel like um, I feel like a jazz musician, 1140 00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:44,920 Speaker 1: like a blues singer right now. I feel like for 1141 00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:49,360 Speaker 1: hip hop. If you get to be like my age 1142 00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:53,000 Speaker 1: and you say something like, well, man, I'm in my fifties, 1143 00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:54,800 Speaker 1: Man I can't rap no more, then you you're putting 1144 00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:58,320 Speaker 1: a limit on hip hop. And where was the limit 1145 00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:01,680 Speaker 1: on jazz? Could have asked musicians blow that horning and 1146 00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:03,960 Speaker 1: and and play with his band? He was seventy eight 1147 00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:06,480 Speaker 1: years old. How old was bb King when he stopped playing? 1148 00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:08,680 Speaker 1: I think he died he was still playing. You know 1149 00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:10,800 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like, like, when when is it? When 1150 00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,040 Speaker 1: is it too old for a blue singer? What about 1151 00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:14,880 Speaker 1: a nique who never had no success trying to be 1152 00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:19,880 Speaker 1: steal me? That is a good one. The rapper who's 1153 00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,560 Speaker 1: still trying to get his first hit, been doing it 1154 00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:25,080 Speaker 1: since he was twenty five and forty and still ain't 1155 00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:29,440 Speaker 1: caught a hit. I'm like, I just I really feel 1156 00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:34,280 Speaker 1: bad about that situation because you gotta and unless you're 1157 00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:37,960 Speaker 1: doing it for a hobby and you're like freestyle battles 1158 00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:40,440 Speaker 1: and you're like, you know, open mike and you're like 1159 00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:44,040 Speaker 1: you're like recording and listen to it yourself, and let's 1160 00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:47,600 Speaker 1: let your friends here. If you ain't got like a 1161 00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:50,160 Speaker 1: little bit of dust, a little fan base, a little 1162 00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:53,880 Speaker 1: like like because what if there was one studio session 1163 00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,720 Speaker 1: away from that hit though it don't happen. It's rare, 1164 00:59:56,840 --> 01:00:00,960 Speaker 1: but it don't happen, and the see people catch your 1165 01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:05,400 Speaker 1: name thirties Yeah, yeah, but you know, um, it's just 1166 01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:09,920 Speaker 1: it's not it's not. It's it's sad to have a person, 1167 01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:13,760 Speaker 1: you know, continuously keep making records and every time to 1168 01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:15,760 Speaker 1: hear play, you like, maybe it's gonna be in his 1169 01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:19,200 Speaker 1: whack again, Like I'm talking to whack, Like can't nobody 1170 01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:22,400 Speaker 1: listen to a whack like ears bleeding whack? And then 1171 01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,280 Speaker 1: you can't even tell a person like that like, bro, 1172 01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:29,960 Speaker 1: you just ain't got it because they don't. So I 1173 01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,400 Speaker 1: feel bad in that situation, man, Like it ain't for everybody, 1174 01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:34,800 Speaker 1: Man Like, this ain't for everybody, like like even like 1175 01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:37,280 Speaker 1: I feel the same way about producers it's some dudes 1176 01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:40,160 Speaker 1: have been sliding me beats for fifteen years. Ain't slip 1177 01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:44,120 Speaker 1: me one dope beat? Hid. I'm like, bro, like, you're 1178 01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:48,080 Speaker 1: not good at this, Like like but like you said, 1179 01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:50,160 Speaker 1: you could catch a hip I don't know, it's been. 1180 01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:52,960 Speaker 1: It's been many of rap records that were big records 1181 01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:56,040 Speaker 1: that I first heard was like that's whack, and it 1182 01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:59,040 Speaker 1: actually grows on me later like that. I don't even 1183 01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:01,640 Speaker 1: like that at first, but I give that the hip hop. 1184 01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:04,640 Speaker 1: But the old dudes trying to break in the game 1185 01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:09,840 Speaker 1: as that's that's kind of funny. Man's kind of funny 1186 01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:11,880 Speaker 1: being a little showcase and all those little young homies 1187 01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:13,640 Speaker 1: come out rapping in this one old dude come out. 1188 01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:16,000 Speaker 1: He's got the flow. It's all serious, but like, right, 1189 01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:18,880 Speaker 1: you're not gonna make it. They're not letting you in 1190 01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,919 Speaker 1: the game. It's like a party. Some people just can't 1191 01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:24,560 Speaker 1: get in. Some people. So let me ask you this, 1192 01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:27,600 Speaker 1: what other things are you into or what like other 1193 01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:30,440 Speaker 1: ship do you have going on outside of the music 1194 01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:35,040 Speaker 1: that generates you income and that you're like pretty much 1195 01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,240 Speaker 1: setting up for the longevity for you and your daughter 1196 01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:39,120 Speaker 1: and the rest of your family. I mean, the merchant 1197 01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:41,320 Speaker 1: is good. I'm from California and marijuana is making a 1198 01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:43,760 Speaker 1: lot of money. I'm I'm dabbling in all that stuff. 1199 01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:49,760 Speaker 1: I'm definitely um, you know, seeking like um, some someplace 1200 01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:54,520 Speaker 1: to land with the two short story, could be the documentary, 1201 01:01:56,160 --> 01:02:00,720 Speaker 1: a documentary, we're going the movie, We're going for the episodes, 1202 01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,000 Speaker 1: We're going for the Greatest three Seasons. We're doing something, 1203 01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:08,280 Speaker 1: We're doing something. So all that's there. UM, definitely um 1204 01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:12,400 Speaker 1: getting into like you know, like what what can you 1205 01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:17,120 Speaker 1: do if rap ain't making your money? Have you ever 1206 01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:20,720 Speaker 1: touched on real estate or anything not necessarily real estate 1207 01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:24,200 Speaker 1: to make money, but like putting money in places and 1208 01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:27,960 Speaker 1: getting money back. I'm into that thing like, um, like, 1209 01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:30,560 Speaker 1: my guys, is just now really like getting me to 1210 01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:33,280 Speaker 1: get deep into like the whole little startup investments and 1211 01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:36,120 Speaker 1: then you know, just flip flipping the money, let the money, 1212 01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:38,360 Speaker 1: let the money make money. You see all that money 1213 01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:41,160 Speaker 1: made off ring. So I mean, I'm in a situation 1214 01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:44,600 Speaker 1: now where I'm kind of like being educated on something 1215 01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:47,080 Speaker 1: that I feel like we all should get at at 1216 01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:49,520 Speaker 1: a young age. I feel really bad that I didn't 1217 01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:51,360 Speaker 1: get at it a long time ago. And it's just 1218 01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:54,880 Speaker 1: like you. We always think like, how what can I 1219 01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:58,479 Speaker 1: do to make money? But then when you get the money, 1220 01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:00,920 Speaker 1: what can the money do to make money? That's a 1221 01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,520 Speaker 1: whole different thing that we don't think about because we're 1222 01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:07,560 Speaker 1: programmed and as you know, it's young and dumb and 1223 01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:10,040 Speaker 1: something you're supposed to do. Damn if he was young 1224 01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:13,000 Speaker 1: and smart, you know what I mean, Like, we're programmed 1225 01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:14,640 Speaker 1: to get this ship right here, we gotta go get 1226 01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:17,400 Speaker 1: this ship. I'm like, I look at them chains and 1227 01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:21,040 Speaker 1: I'm adding up. I'm like, this nag got on five 1228 01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:24,560 Speaker 1: ninety thollar chains. He could have put that money to work, 1229 01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:29,080 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. The car costs uh three hundred, 1230 01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:32,600 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And it just ain't adding 1231 01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:34,480 Speaker 1: up like to what you could have did with that money. 1232 01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:36,440 Speaker 1: And I'm like, gotta be young and dumb though, But 1233 01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:39,800 Speaker 1: young and dumb has one major flaw. If that's the 1234 01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:43,800 Speaker 1: only bag you're gonna get, yeah, you're sucked up because 1235 01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:46,440 Speaker 1: you know I can I can sit here and say 1236 01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:48,439 Speaker 1: I sucked off the first bag. In the second bag, 1237 01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:52,720 Speaker 1: but they went back at it and at some point, 1238 01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:56,640 Speaker 1: if you were smart, you know what I'm saying, Like, 1239 01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:00,320 Speaker 1: look at athletes. There's some smart athletes that didn't really 1240 01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:03,160 Speaker 1: get into the cars and houses in Multiple city and 1241 01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:05,040 Speaker 1: he knew they was only gonna play for five years 1242 01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:07,640 Speaker 1: and kept that money and put it to work. But 1243 01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:09,600 Speaker 1: it's I don't mother. She's like, I know, I've seen 1244 01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:13,520 Speaker 1: this think and make eighty million as he broke, So 1245 01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:17,120 Speaker 1: you know that's that's uh, that's something that Hip Hop 1246 01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:23,120 Speaker 1: jay Z's album with all the Wisdom, it was like 1247 01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:25,200 Speaker 1: it was like the O G spen to the young Homie, 1248 01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:27,720 Speaker 1: But I don't think it really resonated on how serious 1249 01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:29,680 Speaker 1: he was. You want to get to where I'm at, 1250 01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:32,320 Speaker 1: like he was telling you. But you know what I'm saying, 1251 01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:35,040 Speaker 1: you kind of still like jamming and we still I'm 1252 01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:39,160 Speaker 1: just saying, bro, if you're smart. If you're smart, that's 1253 01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:41,400 Speaker 1: I didn't do it. But if you put that young 1254 01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:44,600 Speaker 1: money to work, you later on in life you would 1255 01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:53,200 Speaker 1: be like, okay, wealthy. Like if you had like some 1256 01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:57,160 Speaker 1: last final closing words to say to the people about 1257 01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:00,280 Speaker 1: too short and your legacy, everything you have going on, 1258 01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:03,120 Speaker 1: whatever you have coming up, what would it be? All 1259 01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:05,280 Speaker 1: of the big facts viewers and big facts work. Don't 1260 01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:07,240 Speaker 1: get mad if you find out I fucked your mama. 1261 01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:17,480 Speaker 1: I'm just jugging. That's that's my that's your mama. Was 1262 01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:20,320 Speaker 1: that freak nick Natti folk. She was probably a victim. 1263 01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:24,400 Speaker 1: Probably your mama used to work at Nicki's v I 1264 01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:36,800 Speaker 1: she was probably you know. I just I just think UM, 1265 01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:43,960 Speaker 1: the the the generational separation, the age is UM in 1266 01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:49,320 Speaker 1: hip hop's kind of stupid because for one, you're O 1267 01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:52,919 Speaker 1: G and you're looking at these acts sliding the game. 1268 01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:55,640 Speaker 1: They're getting money, that got hit records. You see it, 1269 01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:58,240 Speaker 1: and you're going that ship is trash? How's it trash? 1270 01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:00,440 Speaker 1: If just think it's making all this money and all 1271 01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:02,280 Speaker 1: these people like what he's doing, How is that trash? 1272 01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:04,080 Speaker 1: Because when I was the young nigger, they said this 1273 01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:06,360 Speaker 1: was trash, and I knew what the value of it was, 1274 01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:08,880 Speaker 1: and I knew people loved it. And then you just 1275 01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:11,320 Speaker 1: hating on them because it's different than what you did. 1276 01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:14,400 Speaker 1: You ain't he like man, he ain't spitting bars like well, 1277 01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:16,560 Speaker 1: I talked to the young homies, they said, he's spitting bars. 1278 01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:19,439 Speaker 1: I was, I was gonna room for everybody that knew 1279 01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:21,160 Speaker 1: young thug lyrics. I was only get the room. They 1280 01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:23,479 Speaker 1: didn't know the lyrics. I couldn't hear what you're saying, 1281 01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:25,400 Speaker 1: and they all seen it. I like, y'all hear what 1282 01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:29,040 Speaker 1: he's saying. It's like yeah, And I'm like, I'm not 1283 01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:31,760 Speaker 1: hating on it, but I'm like, my ear can't hear 1284 01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:34,080 Speaker 1: the words, but they all knew it. Something like I 1285 01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:36,640 Speaker 1: see the value in it. I see it. I see 1286 01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:38,440 Speaker 1: I see that Nigga put up with a fleet of rolls. 1287 01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:42,320 Speaker 1: Racist you know what I'm saying. This quality so on 1288 01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:45,400 Speaker 1: the flip side, then the young homies, the ogs make 1289 01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:48,400 Speaker 1: the young homies man, they're like, man, these old olds 1290 01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:52,160 Speaker 1: out the way. I just say to the young homie 1291 01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:54,760 Speaker 1: because I'm different in the other o g s. I'm like, Nigga, 1292 01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:56,920 Speaker 1: you wish you could walk out on the stage and 1293 01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:58,800 Speaker 1: fifty six years old and the crowd you sold out 1294 01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:01,960 Speaker 1: and they pay you fifty Now, you wish at the 1295 01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:05,880 Speaker 1: age of twice your life from now, you'll still be 1296 01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:08,640 Speaker 1: getting money doing what you're doing right now. You wish. 1297 01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:12,920 Speaker 1: And I just think the age is in hip hop 1298 01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:15,440 Speaker 1: is it's dumb as funk like it. You don't You 1299 01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:18,280 Speaker 1: don't gotta listen to my music if you're nineteen years old, 1300 01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:20,760 Speaker 1: I don't gotta listen to your music if you're a 1301 01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:24,200 Speaker 1: nineteen year old artist. But respect is a different, different thing, 1302 01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:26,920 Speaker 1: Like I respect your hustle, and I think some of 1303 01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:29,080 Speaker 1: the O g s don't respect the young homies hustle. 1304 01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:32,000 Speaker 1: They're looking at it like your flow whack. But then 1305 01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:34,200 Speaker 1: the young homies, you know what I'm saying, some of 1306 01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:37,400 Speaker 1: them don't see that that that thing that it's gonna 1307 01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:39,880 Speaker 1: be a lot of obstacles in your future ship that 1308 01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:42,360 Speaker 1: might get you killed. Shoot, that might stop your bag 1309 01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:45,400 Speaker 1: from coming through. You know what I'm saying a lot 1310 01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:47,920 Speaker 1: of things. You you go in the label and slap 1311 01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:51,320 Speaker 1: the wrong executive, they're gonna shove your ass. You could 1312 01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:53,320 Speaker 1: cut them on the phone. They're gonna shove your ass. 1313 01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:56,440 Speaker 1: And you just don't know what your future might be. 1314 01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:59,840 Speaker 1: So if you do have that in your cards to 1315 01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:02,720 Speaker 1: where ten years into your career they love you, twenty 1316 01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:04,560 Speaker 1: years to your career they love you, that's a blessing. 1317 01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:06,960 Speaker 1: That's not a bad thing to be like it out 1318 01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:08,880 Speaker 1: the way you're gonna wish you you wish you're gonna 1319 01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:11,200 Speaker 1: be an one day you wish. So it's like the 1320 01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:14,520 Speaker 1: agism is dumb to me because both sides the argument. 1321 01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:16,880 Speaker 1: You can't win the argument if you're arguing with me, 1322 01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:18,800 Speaker 1: if you're young Nick trying to tell me how old 1323 01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:21,000 Speaker 1: Nigas is whack or vice versa, you can't win that 1324 01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:22,920 Speaker 1: argument with me because and you're sitting at home and 1325 01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:25,639 Speaker 1: I'm on tour. Yeah, you can't. You can't win. You can't. 1326 01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:28,240 Speaker 1: I'm sit in the room mostly with old dudes trying 1327 01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:29,679 Speaker 1: to explain to me that the new ship is whack, 1328 01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:32,519 Speaker 1: and I'm like, Okay, let's let's dissect it. How's it whack? 1329 01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:34,320 Speaker 1: And then when they when you, when you realize what 1330 01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:37,320 Speaker 1: it beats, they love it. They love it. The beast 1331 01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:40,240 Speaker 1: is go to clubs and look at the reaction and 1332 01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:45,840 Speaker 1: they look at the money they're getting. That the end 1333 01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:48,679 Speaker 1: of the argument, This can't be wacking. Nig is getting 1334 01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:51,680 Speaker 1: mone off as hip hop. We gotta really look at 1335 01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:54,760 Speaker 1: this agees and thing and kind of I feel like 1336 01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:57,920 Speaker 1: agesm in hip hop is the same thing as colorism 1337 01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:03,360 Speaker 1: in modeling and acting. Oh of isms, Yeah, sexism all 1338 01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:08,439 Speaker 1: it's bullshit. Yeah what we're doing scream Sure, appreciate you 1339 01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:10,400 Speaker 1: man for pulling up a big facts. You know what 1340 01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:11,880 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I watched the show a lot. I was 1341 01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:14,400 Speaker 1: looking forward to doing it, man. And because y'all keep 1342 01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:17,960 Speaker 1: my TV on revote in the studio there and uh 1343 01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:19,720 Speaker 1: I see I see a lot of you know, you 1344 01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:22,160 Speaker 1: guys do get interviews. The sha nigs come up here 1345 01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:26,360 Speaker 1: and keep it real. So I was prepared. Yeah there 1346 01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:28,760 Speaker 1: you go. Yeah, we ought to have a legend in 1347 01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:32,280 Speaker 1: the building. Man. Appreciate through short on Big Facts Triple 1348 01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:35,720 Speaker 1: w dot, Big facts pot dot com. 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