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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on you home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly here with Matt

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Speaker 1: Wayas from in the Lovely Lovely because s Bridgeville Studios. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: very nice and we love it here and I'm glad

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Speaker 1: to be back in town. A little bit of strange.

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Speaker 1: Nobody should ever have to travel to Kansas City. What's

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Speaker 1: the dilemma? Two weeks, two times in a three week span.

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Speaker 1: It's not easy to get to Huh. You can't get

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Speaker 1: there directly. Um, this time we went like blizzard times

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Speaker 1: this time of a year. There's there's snow conditions. Well,

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Speaker 1: it might be the worst airport in America for a

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Speaker 1: major city to have an airport that tiny. Is it

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Speaker 1: really that bad? Um? You remember the old Pittsburgh Airport,

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Speaker 1: Old Pittsburgh, I mean Gas. Yeah, this is like that

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Speaker 1: only were like there's just there's there's there's no restaurants

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Speaker 1: in it. There's no food. Wow, in Kansas City. This

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Speaker 1: isn't the middle of nowhere, right the Green I've been

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Speaker 1: to the Green Bay Airport, and the Green Bay Airport

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Speaker 1: is nicer and bigger and bigger. I mean it has gates,

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Speaker 1: it has airplanes coming in there, but does it back

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Speaker 1: up like crazy? Then too, Well, there aren't that many

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Speaker 1: people coming in and out, but on our flat like,

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Speaker 1: we had to fly through Atlanta to get back, so

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Speaker 1: there are probably people in this flight to Atlanta because

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Speaker 1: they're all flying somewhere else too. And you walk in

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Speaker 1: there's like one little gate and there's like twenty seats

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Speaker 1: there and everybody squashed it. Everybody squashed in. There's nowhere

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Speaker 1: to eat everything. I just can't get a beer, relaxed

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Speaker 1: or get out of the way. In America, they are

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Speaker 1: building a new one is supposed to be open. Hopefully

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Speaker 1: I don't have to go back to Kansas City before

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Speaker 1: that is built. Might not possibility, will be a possibility,

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Speaker 1: but they could be. The Chiefs are not on the

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Speaker 1: Steelers schedule next year. I guess twenty three. They could

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Speaker 1: be if they're both the same first, you know, first seed,

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Speaker 1: second seed, whatever, then they'll have a newer I guess,

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Speaker 1: have a new airport. So I remember my tweeting, I

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Speaker 1: actually the last time we were there, and I think

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Speaker 1: I've been out there. A hundred times, I'm sure, But

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Speaker 1: I tweeted out something about there being no restaurants in

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Speaker 1: the Kansas City. To me, that's the strangest thing of

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Speaker 1: the whole thing for me and somebody from there. They

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Speaker 1: they're very cognizant the fact that people don't like their

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Speaker 1: airport because it's a crappy airport a lot. So I

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Speaker 1: get it. I I tweet back from the Kansas City

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Speaker 1: Airport Twitter thing saying, giving me a list of all

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Speaker 1: the restaurants that are in there. But you walk around there,

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Speaker 1: they're not there. They're not open. None of them are open.

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Speaker 1: There's there's where there used to be restaurants. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: there's Yeah, I'm thinking, like an entrepreneur, I'm like, why

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Speaker 1: isn't t g I Friday, It's just open the only

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Speaker 1: one and everyone in the world will go there's I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's just it's awful, bad and it's far. It's way

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Speaker 1: far commute them. Once it's like it's like the same

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Speaker 1: distance as the Pittsburgh airport is from the city. Um,

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Speaker 1: but like we we we landed on Saturday. Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: hotel that we were staying I didn't have a shuttle

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Speaker 1: called an airport hotel. Yeah, yeah, but it was ten

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Speaker 1: righting they said, they said they'll have one February one,

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Speaker 1: they'll be back and running. And so we tried to

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Speaker 1: get on Uber. We couldn't get a car rental, couldn't

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Speaker 1: get a rental car there. Well that's just all that's

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Speaker 1: that's all over the country now. You can't get rental

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Speaker 1: cars all right, right, Uh so you try to get

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Speaker 1: an Uber. None more available at the airport, at the airport, right,

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Speaker 1: try to get a taxi not available at the airport walk. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I'm starting, you know, we started, we kept trying

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Speaker 1: on like our fourth try, we got an Uber. Wow,

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Speaker 1: I mean it was we were there for twenty minutes

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Speaker 1: Would be living like Tom Hanks in the U. Kansas

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Speaker 1: more traveling to do. Yeah, but more, I mean games

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Speaker 1: lotel and you were in your base right as usual, complaints,

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Speaker 1: We're back plenty to talk about today. Mike Tomlin holding

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Speaker 1: his postseason wrap up, Um, when will he talk again?

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Speaker 1: Like that usual? Mike Tomlin will not speak again until

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Speaker 1: the owner's meetings. That's what I thought in March. I mean,

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Speaker 1: even if they fire staff, or Ben retires, or they

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Speaker 1: hear from coach tom The next person, well, we'll hear

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Speaker 1: at some point here within the next couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: I would assume Art Rooney will have his season wrap

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Speaker 1: up press conference. He always does that. But largely the

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Speaker 1: way that the Steelers work things is that Kevin Colbert

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Speaker 1: now becomes the voice of the Steelers. Yeah. I mean

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Speaker 1: that phase of the organization is is now and it's

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Speaker 1: not game day anymore. It's not game prep anymore. Vin

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Speaker 1: doesn't talk during the seasons. That's how it should be.

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Speaker 1: That's why this is to get along so well. The

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Speaker 1: right dealer off season though, I mean, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: to talk about that it is offseason. Mike Tomlin talking

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Speaker 1: today about you know, just the disappointment of having to

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Speaker 1: talk today. You know, that's always Uh, they're going through

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Speaker 1: their exit interviews. Um said, he's been, you know, been

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Speaker 1: talking to the younger guys first, save some of the

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Speaker 1: veteran leaders for later in the week. He talks to

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Speaker 1: the young guys and potential free agents first makes sense,

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Speaker 1: and then deals with the veteran guys because they know

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Speaker 1: a little bit more about what at the end that

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Speaker 1: makes sense. Yeah, okay, Um, that's a big deal though.

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Speaker 1: You know, think about if you're a rookie. I'm thinking

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Speaker 1: even like the Norwood's and louder Milks and you know,

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Speaker 1: not even the first round guys that they put in

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Speaker 1: a lot of work. You know, it's really contributed as

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Speaker 1: the season goes on. And then you get to sit

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Speaker 1: sure you have some insight on this is he'll tell you, hey,

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Speaker 1: your man coverage stinks or you know, I mean, I'm sure,

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Speaker 1: it's not all very very blunt. We need you to

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Speaker 1: improve on this. Yeah, you need to put on right

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Speaker 1: right right, like you did a lot of good things.

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Speaker 1: But here's the critique. Otherwise, why do him? You know,

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Speaker 1: it's not just a big hug session and you know

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Speaker 1: you're great and everyone's wonderful and we have nothing to

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Speaker 1: that goes a long way. Yeah, and you know, Mike

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Speaker 1: Tomlin said, you know he he he meets with everybody

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Speaker 1: with position coaches. I'm yeah, they meet with the you know,

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Speaker 1: and into this that we didn't expect, you know, how

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Speaker 1: do we overcome that next time? Or? Yeah, everything every

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Speaker 1: year is a little different. He was also asked about

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Speaker 1: well both coordinators um as expected. Uh. He said that

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Speaker 1: Keith Butler has talked about this being his last year. Um,

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Speaker 1: they haven't sat down to formally approach that subject, but

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Speaker 1: or and it's expected that. Yeah, this, I mean this

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Speaker 1: Butler was probably good. Cot was up after the year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and scouts and things are on two year deals, you know.

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Speaker 1: So not unexpected. I'm sure they saw this coming for

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Speaker 1: two years now, really yeah, and quite frankly, I mean,

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Speaker 1: three years. Um. One of the reasons I believe he

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Speaker 1: Makes people talk about reputations. They're just gonna hire somebody

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Speaker 1: from the inside. Again, you make when you make hires,

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Speaker 1: everyone hates that for something. You do this with an

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Speaker 1: it's not like Tarrell Austin has been a defensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. Yeah, right, he sat down for head

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Speaker 1: coaching interviews in the NFL. You know, this is a

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Speaker 1: guy who's who's highly regarded in the NFL. He's from

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Speaker 1: I mean up in that next actually saw I actually

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Speaker 1: He's an up and comer, you know, like you pay

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Speaker 1: attention to that guy, you know, kind of telling me

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Speaker 1: the right people to talk to and not to, you know, right. Um.

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Speaker 1: I asked him about Matt Canada. That one's interesting to me.

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Speaker 1: Yea um. And he actually kind of gave him a

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Speaker 1: little vote of confidence today. Uh you know, I said,

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Speaker 1: you know, your look, your offense average twenty six points

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Speaker 1: a game last year. You average twenty points a game

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Speaker 1: this year. It was obviously a problem over the course

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Speaker 1: he can He's part of the solution. So you know, yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: I think you know, he went on to say there

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Speaker 1: were some you know, extenuating circumstances that we all know

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Speaker 1: there absolutely are. Yeah. I mean that's the tough part

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Speaker 1: to weigh in this whole equation. I don't mean to

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Speaker 1: sound disrespectful to Ben Roethlisberger, but we everyone listening watched

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Speaker 1: him play football this year, and I think it's really

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Speaker 1: difficult to evaluate a head coach that knows his quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: will be a competition, and Mason Rudolph will be a

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Speaker 1: part of it. Unless they trade for Cousins or car

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Speaker 1: I just don't see it. I mean, this is a

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Speaker 1: need to they need all kinds of stuff here. Well,

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Speaker 1: if you need all kinds of stuff, you're not trading

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Speaker 1: for one of those guys. I mean, I could understand

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Speaker 1: Wilson or Rodgers. They are special players that would be

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Speaker 1: deodorant for your holes, you know. I mean, but you're

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Speaker 1: not gonna but you're you're hamstringing yourself for the future

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Speaker 1: without question, because you're gonna have to give up. I mean,

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Speaker 1: like a Cousin. Stafford was two first round picks and

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Speaker 1: a third. Wentz was a one to three and he

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Speaker 1: wasn't good. Donald was a two and a fourd he

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Speaker 1: was he hadn't done anything, period. Like these guys are

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Speaker 1: cars gonna be two ones, right, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Cousins has such a terrible contract that might be like

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Speaker 1: take his contract and give us a four, but then

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Speaker 1: you gotta I don't think it's going to be. I

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Speaker 1: still think it would be at least a two, maybe too,

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Speaker 1: you know, because he's a quarterback. Jimmy's probably the cheapest,

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Speaker 1: but it would be but he should because like Jimmy

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Speaker 1: to pay him. You know what they are. They come

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Speaker 1: throw them in here and say turn everyone here into

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Speaker 1: a star, that's not who they are. Well, let's talk

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Speaker 1: about that more in the next secon because I'm being

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Speaker 1: asked now, you know what, what what do you see

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Speaker 1: the Steelers drafting? And I want to talk to you

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Speaker 1: about the Cousins thing that you just brought up in

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Speaker 1: my thoughts of wide receiver. So we will do that

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Speaker 1: when we come back. He is Matt Williams and I'm

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Speaker 1: Dale Lolly. You're listening to the drive here on Steelers

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Speaker 1: Nation Radio. We'll be back with more right after this