1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:02,759 Speaker 1: Ron Anian. 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 2: You know, it's amazing things that people actually write stories about. 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 2: Is it okay to wait until the fuel light comes 4 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 2: on before stopping for gas? Sure, you can do anything 5 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 2: you want. You can get stuck anywhere you want, You 6 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 2: do whatever you want. It doesn't matter a. 7 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 3: Man, I don't know what I mean, the car Doctor. 8 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 4: And about every two or three four months, I get 9 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 4: a check engine light comes on and I have one 10 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:32,639 Speaker 4: of the little diagnostics you plug in P. 11 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 2: Zero five twenty one exactly. 12 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 1: Okay, Welcome to the radio home of ron Anian, the 13 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: Car Doctor. Since nineteen ninety one. This is where car 14 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion on 15 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, 16 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: pick up the phone and call in. The garage doors. 17 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 2: Are open, but I am here to take your pall 18 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: at eight five five five six ninety nine hundred and 19 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 2: now he running and hollo on and welcome and thanks 20 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 2: stopping by this hour, and so we sit and talk 21 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: about auto repair together. That's what you and I like 22 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 2: to do, you know, it's it's that's what this radio 23 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 2: show is built on and has been for so many years. 24 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: Keep in mind, there's a YouTube channel if you're looking 25 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 2: for videos and self repair tips and so forth. And 26 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 2: think we're up to I don't know. I think we're 27 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 2: going to hit the sixty video mark this week. I 28 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 2: know we're up to just we just we just broached 29 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 2: a thousand subscribers this week. So the YouTube channel is 30 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 2: growing and we thank you for that because you know, 31 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 2: you guys are there to support us, and we're just 32 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 2: trying to support you and give you what you want. 33 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 2: To that point, if there's a video you're looking for, 34 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,479 Speaker 2: if there's a topic we haven't touched on yet, by 35 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 2: all means, drop us a note ron at cardoctorshow dot com. 36 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 2: You know what are you looking for? And a lot 37 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 2: of what you see are things that well, they're just 38 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 2: they come up in the shop. It's it's, you know, 39 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 2: real life stuff from the bays in terms of you 40 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 2: know what happens, speaking of what happens real quick, I 41 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,639 Speaker 2: just you know, it's it's funny how in a repair 42 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 2: shop the little things become the bigger things and it's 43 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 2: when you least expect it, and you know, what are 44 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 2: you looking for? We had a twenty fourteen escape in 45 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 2: this week that came in for an oil change and 46 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 2: a general lookover, and it was all going well and 47 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 2: on schedule, on time, on schedule, until we found the 48 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 2: right front tire. The right front tire had a gash 49 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 2: in it that was down to the court. You could 50 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 2: physically see cord beneath the gash and the tire. And 51 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 2: it turns out that Claire had hit something. She'd hit 52 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 2: a bottle or a bump in the road somewhere along 53 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: the way that she recalled and the tire was now trash. 54 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 2: The issue became and here's where, here's where you know, 55 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 2: technology and all wheel drive and some of the other 56 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 2: factors tend to light things up. You know, we had 57 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 2: to do four tires. The back two were newer, but 58 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 2: not by much. The front two were about eight months 59 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 2: older than the backs. And they all had I believe, 60 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 2: somewhere between fifty and sixty thousand miles on them. They 61 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 2: might have snuck their way out to seventy. But you know, 62 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 2: you're stuck with how many tires do we have to do? 63 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 2: How close are we We're coming to the end. Let's 64 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 2: just do four? Four tires begat at one hundred and 65 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 2: five thousand miles. Look the car over, It needed rear brakes, 66 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 2: it was due for spark plugs, it was due for 67 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 2: fuel system cleaning, and all of a sudden, the week 68 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 2: was sent into a turmoil as far as scheduling because 69 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 2: the you know, the car that was supposed to be 70 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 2: an hour's worth of shop time became four. And it's 71 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 2: just funny how you know that one gash tire can 72 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 2: turn the shop upside down. And that happens a lot. 73 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 2: And I tell you this because you know, when you 74 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 2: drop your car off, I know the one question that 75 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 2: I get asked the most is when will it be ready? 76 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 2: I don't know. I have to look at it, you know, 77 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 2: I have to find out what's really wrong with it. 78 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 2: I have to see what's wrong with the other seven 79 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 2: cars were working on this. I have to see where 80 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 2: am I going to get parts from. I have to see, 81 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 2: you know, what's going to cooperate the most and line 82 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: things up. It's very difficult, you know. I went to 83 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 2: the dentist this week, and this is what made me 84 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 2: think of it. The dentist. I love going to the 85 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 2: dentist to see the methodology. You're in, you're checked in, 86 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 2: you sit in the chair, you open your mouth, they 87 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 2: clean your teeth, they give you X rays, they tell 88 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 2: you what you need to come back for. It's very 89 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 2: boom boom boom, boom boom, and you pay your bill 90 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 2: and you leave and then you come back for the 91 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 2: next You can't run a repair shop like that. You 92 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 2: can't run an order repair shop like a dentist, because 93 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 2: there's too many mitigating circumstances that come up that just 94 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 2: change the way you're going to operate and change the 95 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 2: order in which you're going to do things, and it 96 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:48,119 Speaker 2: makes it so difficult. And you know, three days later, 97 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 2: we finally had Clear's card done because we gathered up 98 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 2: enough parts, and we gathered enough time and stole enough 99 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 2: time in minutes and chunks and segments from every other 100 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 2: which way, and we rescheduled the shop around that. I 101 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 2: think four other vehicles this week. That happened a couple 102 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 2: of times. So just be understanding when you bring your 103 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 2: car in for a mechanic, don't wait till the last minute. 104 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 2: Don't be surprised if it's more than a day in 105 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 2: a lot of cases nowadays, because there's a lot of 106 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 2: things working against that shop to get things done in 107 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 2: a correct timely professional manner. So enough lecture. Let's go 108 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 2: over to the phone. Let's go to Brian in Philadelphia. 109 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 2: If five five, five six nine nine zero zero, you're 110 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 2: on with the car doctor Brian, how can I help? 111 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 5: Hey, Ron, always good to. 112 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 2: Talk to you, You too, sir. What's good? 113 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 5: Here's the question my twenty seventeen fusion. Just shift, you 114 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 5: know for the automatic transmission. You know it's a nod 115 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 5: instead of like a shifting lever. When I shifted the car. 116 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 5: First of all, car runs fine and shifts smoothly on 117 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 5: the road. When I shift the knobs. Sometimes I'll hear 118 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 5: like a chime and it will say shift error or 119 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 5: shifting error seem manual, and I'll have a look at 120 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 5: a light up that it'll go off and everything is fine, 121 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 5: and it'll be fine for a couple of days. This 122 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 5: happens they're in there, I mean, maybe every other day 123 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 5: or so. But it has not affected anything as far 124 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 5: as the way to car rides. Okay, something you've seen 125 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 5: in this car. 126 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 2: Well, understand what you're looking at. You know, you think 127 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 2: that's a mechanical device, all right, but it's not. It's 128 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 2: really an electronic device. It's got a mechanical shift cable, 129 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 2: and that mechanical shift cable can go out of calibration. 130 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 2: But everything else, as far as how it's put into gear, 131 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 2: what gear it's put into, is done electronically. So when 132 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 2: this does what it says you're it's doing, it could 133 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 2: be something as simple as that shift cable. There is 134 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 2: a small shift cable. There's actually a shift cable calibration 135 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 2: process that is done to these vehicles sometimes as they age, 136 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 2: because the shifter cable will stretch, And it may be 137 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 2: as simple as just verifying that the shift cable is 138 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 2: in calibration and scanning for fault codes. You know, I 139 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 2: would be looking for it. Remember, just because there's no 140 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 2: check engine light doesn't mean there's no fault codes in 141 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 2: a vehicle. This could very well have some communication faults 142 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 2: telling it. You know, when Brian goes from park to 143 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 2: reverse or park to drive that because something doesn't line 144 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 2: up in its d tent or position, one of the 145 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 2: computers says, hey, wait a minute, this guy's supposed to 146 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 2: be in the front row, third down from the right, 147 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 2: and he's not. Something's out of position. I'm turning on 148 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 2: the warning light and I'm going to stop where we are. 149 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 2: So you know that very well could be part of 150 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 2: the issue here. Has your mechanics scanned it at all? 151 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 5: No, I haven't done anything with it as yet. Get started, 152 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 5: maybe a couple of weeks ago, and it's it. 153 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 6: Clears itself out. 154 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 5: I just put it back in park, right, get back 155 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 5: into the gear I want and it's fine. 156 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it's it's it's not seeing something. If you can, 157 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 2: if you can duplicate it on a consistent basis, I 158 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 2: would want to be looking at this. Everything that you 159 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 2: see I can see on a scan tool, for lack 160 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 2: of a better way to put it, So when you 161 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 2: put it in reverse, I should see it go to reverse, neutral, drive, low, 162 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 2: et cetera. If the computer does not see that, even 163 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 2: though you are physically seeing reverse, you know, the knob 164 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 2: goes to are something's keeping the computer from electrically seeing that, 165 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 2: and that's why you're getting the error. Does the car 166 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:21,559 Speaker 2: lock up and not move at that point? 167 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 5: Brian, No, it doesn't lock good. It looks if I 168 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 5: put it back in park, it'll lock up, and you know, 169 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 5: but I want to get back in gear. 170 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 2: It's fine, right, But when you go if you go 171 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 2: to reverse, if you go to reverse and it happens, 172 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 2: will the car go into reverse? 173 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 5: Basically, it'll do nothing, and it'll just kind of stand 174 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 5: there like a neutral thing, and it'll light up right, 175 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 5: and you know, I'll get that ranch tool and then 176 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 5: I'll drop it into let's say, go from reverse, I 177 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 5: can just drop to drive and it'll just correct itself. 178 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 2: Right. So if we were standing on one side of 179 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 2: the cliff and I and I told you to walk 180 00:08:56,160 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 2: across the rope bridge, and every every thirty seconds a 181 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 2: buzzsaw went by, and if you're out on the bridge, 182 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 2: the bridge would say and it would hit the rope 183 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 2: and the bridge would get chopped up and you'd fall 184 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 2: down on the ravine. You wouldn't go out on that 185 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 2: bridge when you knew the buzzsaw it was coming by, 186 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 2: would you? I would not, right, So my point is 187 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 2: the computer is seeing a buzzsaw. It's seeing a problem. Mechanically, 188 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 2: everything's there, the rope bridge is there, the ravine is there, 189 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 2: the pass is there, the drop is there. Everything is 190 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 2: as you see it. But the danger is it's seeing 191 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 2: a buzz saw coming. So it stopped the car from moving. 192 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 2: This is no different than if you've ever had a 193 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 2: problem or know somebody that's had a problem with an 194 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 2: electronic throttle body where when you put the car in 195 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 2: gear and you go to accelerate and it goes into 196 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 2: limp mode because as your foot goes down on the 197 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 2: accelerator pedal and it goes from half a vault all 198 00:09:58,120 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 2: the way up through one vault, vault and a half 199 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 2: time two vaults, there's a glitch where somewhere between one 200 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 2: vault and a vault and a half it spikes to four. 201 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 2: The computer goes, wait a minute, how did he get 202 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 2: the four vaults so quick? And then come right back down? 203 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,599 Speaker 2: And now he's at a vault in four tenths, a 204 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 2: vault in five tenths, and so on. It's seeing an 205 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 2: electrical glitch. It shuts the throttle down. There's something it 206 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 2: doesn't like about the shifter, and it shuts the shifter 207 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 2: down electrically and prevents the transmission from operating because it 208 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 2: sees that buzz saw coming through, chewing at the rope. 209 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 5: So even though it's fine, you know when I'm on 210 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 5: the road, you know, if I'm in proper gear and 211 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 5: it shifts fine. So it's basically so this has to 212 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 5: be like I do we need to scan it and 213 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 5: look for a code. 214 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 2: In other words, right, let's well, let's scan it and 215 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 2: see if we find a fault code. If we don't 216 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 2: find a fault code, that's going to put us in 217 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 2: a different direction. But if we do find a fault code, 218 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 2: and I think you're going to I think there's going 219 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 2: to be some communication issues. I think you're going to 220 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 2: see things like a U one oh one or a 221 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 2: U zero nineteen. You're going to see some of the 222 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 2: com faults that come up because the trans transmission range 223 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 2: control module, uh you know, are are having issues. It's 224 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 2: it's not talking to somebody. And I think you're gonna 225 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 2: find faults there, and you should get this done before, 226 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 2: sooner rather than later, because eventually it may fail to 227 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 2: the point that the car doesn't move and you're stuck, 228 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 2: and that would be no fun. 229 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 5: So yeah, that's because I look at it, you know, 230 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 5: like you said, you were correct. I look at it 231 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 5: as sort of like a mechanical hydraulic thing, right, you know, 232 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 5: as like a software problem or computer issue. Right, this 233 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:34,359 Speaker 5: is an airbus agery. 234 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 2: Right, yeah, no, this is this is all drive by wire, 235 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 2: shift by wire, you know, the transmission range control module 236 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 2: is in the right front wheel well, and it's it's 237 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 2: seeing something it doesn't like, or it's reporting something that 238 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 2: the PCM doesn't like. Something is putting this vehicle into lockdown. 239 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 2: And you're only getting a mild version of it now 240 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 2: at some point when it fails. If it fails, you're stuck, brother, 241 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 2: So I would I would buy all means get it 242 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 2: checked out. All right? 243 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 5: Okay, great, thank you, very. 244 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 2: Welcome, sir. You well call me back if you need more. 245 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 2: Eight five five five six on nine nine zero zero. 246 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 2: The car Doctor's coming back right after this. 247 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 7: Whether it's a little red Corvette or you go, you've 248 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 7: come to the right place to get that car fixed. 249 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 7: Ron and Andy and the car Doctor. Eight five five 250 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 7: five six zero nine nine zero zero. Now back to Ron. 251 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 2: Hey, thanks Tom, Let's get on over and talk to 252 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 2: Let's go over to Bob in Delaware fifteen Chevy Encore. 253 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 2: Is that what that is? Is that? Yes, sir, I 254 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 2: can hear you. Go ahead, Bob, what do you got? 255 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 8: Okay, we have there's a quarter inch inside diameter Robert 256 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 8: hose that comes off of the reservoir, the reservoir and 257 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 8: then that goes with a plastic piece and there's like 258 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 8: two little plasts pieces in there, and that sits down 259 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 8: in a little housing with some other hoses attached. The 260 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 8: original plastic one broke and was leaking or cracked. So 261 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 8: I replaced it with a went on line and got 262 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 8: an illumined one figure that should last a lot longer. 263 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 8: Replace that with this little plastic piece that's in between 264 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 8: the housing and the reservoirs leaking. One of them didn't 265 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 8: even have it's two pieces. I put a O ring 266 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 8: in the bottom one and it still leaks a little bit, 267 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 8: and the upper ones leak, and also I tried getting 268 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 8: two in there and still leaking. So I'm wondering what's first, 269 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 8: What is the function of this little piece of plastic 270 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 8: that's in there? 271 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 2: Is it a check valve? 272 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 5: Is it a drain? 273 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 2: Is it a drained back check valve? 274 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 8: Okay, I guess that's what it would be, right, Okay, 275 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 8: So is it necessary to keep that in there? If 276 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 8: I eliminate that, I could probably not have a leak. 277 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 2: Well, so I guess we're going to re engineer with 278 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 2: the GM engineer spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on 279 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 2: here on weekend radio. I don't think so. Yeah, I don't. 280 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 2: I don't think so, brother, I think I think that's 281 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 2: there for a reason. Can we go buy a new 282 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 2: check valve? 283 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 8: I try getting one of the dealer, but it doesn't 284 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 8: it's different than the one I got in the after 285 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 8: market model. 286 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 2: Okay, so the aftermarket the aftermarket version that you got, 287 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 2: can you go to the aftermarket supplier and get it 288 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 2: direct from them? 289 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 8: I guess I'm gonna have to go that route. I 290 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 8: was just wondering what your on this. 291 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't problem unless I I mean, listen. I 292 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 2: could surely try leaving it out and just watching it, 293 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 2: but I hate to make myself the guinea pig. I 294 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 2: want to understand, you know, the how and the why 295 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 2: and the what. But it Yeah, I listen. I'm not 296 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 2: afraid to modify something, but I want to make sure 297 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 2: I've looked at all the avenues before I start out 298 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 2: thinking the GM engineer, although sometimes you have to, you know. 299 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 8: But plastic stuff right there, and that's obviously a problem. 300 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 2: Yep, yep, yep, yep yep. So keep you know, you 301 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 2: gotta remember you got to remember this stuff. In all 302 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 2: fairness to them, though, Bob, real quick, they you know, 303 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 2: some of their thinking is dictated by accounting and cost savings, 304 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 2: So it's not necessarily the engineer. It's the bean counters 305 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 2: that help that produce a lot of the cars that 306 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 2: are on the road today. So you had a second question. 307 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 8: Yeah, I have a twenty twenty one cheap Wrangler and 308 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 8: I want to change the transmission fluid in it. And 309 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 8: after at least six months, I finally got a filter 310 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 8: from one of the dealers. Okay, and it doesn't come 311 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 8: with a gay ask it. And I wonder if you 312 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 8: know of anybody that has gaskets. So they don't even 313 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 8: have them, and they wanted seventy five dollars for one. 314 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 8: This is an awful lot of money for us. Asket. 315 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 2: Well, this is the Is this the plastic transmission pan 316 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 2: where the filter is built into the housing? 317 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 8: It's it's a metallic it's a metallic pan that to 318 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 8: fill their bolts down to Oh does. 319 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 2: This have the so? Is this the old? Is it 320 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 2: twenty one? This has the pinch. 321 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 8: Bolt star twenty one? 322 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 2: Yet I'm trying to. 323 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 8: Everything's matter of housing that all. You know obviously the transmissions. 324 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 2: Right I was. I wasn't aware of a metal pan 325 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 2: on those, not since the days of when Mercedes had 326 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 2: their influence. This isn't the Mercedes trans where the it's 327 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 2: it's grabbed by the pinch. There's like a little triangular 328 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 2: shaped piece of steel pinching the transpan to the body 329 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 2: of the transmission. 330 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 8: I'm sorry, you're correct. It is plastic. 331 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 2: It is plastic, right right, It is plastic, right right. 332 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 2: So that's plastic and the filter is going to be 333 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 2: part of the housing. You actually got a filter separate. 334 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 2: Now when you went in there, did you Well, when 335 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 2: you went in there, did you tell them that you 336 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 2: had a a metal pan? 337 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 8: No? I didn't. 338 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 2: Did they look it up by then? 339 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 8: Yeah? I'm guessing it's plastic. 340 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 2: It's long, black, and it's it's rectangular, it's ribbed, and 341 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 2: it's pa and it's right, Yeah, that's plastic. Take a 342 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 2: mag that. I bet a mag that doesn't stick to it. 343 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 8: Okay, let me do that real quick. 344 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 2: But you know, filter filter, notwithstanding that gasket is part 345 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 2: of the pan. There's a company out there called Pacific 346 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 2: Performance Engineering. Although if you think seventy five dollars for 347 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 2: the gaskets a lot of money, the three hundred they 348 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 2: get for the pan is going to scare you. But 349 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 2: you can. It's yeah, it's an illuminum it's an illuminum. Well, 350 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 2: it's an aluminum pan. And you can get a separate 351 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 2: filter for that, and then our TV it together and 352 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 2: then you know you're done. Now, when you do change that, 353 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 2: make sure you use correct fluid, absolutely positively eight nine 354 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 2: speed fluid. And it's frightfully expensive. Way do you see 355 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 2: the price tag on that? Okay, all right, kiddo, I 356 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 2: gotta run the clock. I gotta run. I gotta run, Bob, 357 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 2: the clock's gonna grab me. But just keep in mind 358 00:17:55,760 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 2: correct fluid that trands that trans fluid leave. The last 359 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 2: time I looked was twenty five to thirty dollars a quart, 360 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 2: and it's going to take somewhere between six and eight quart. 361 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 2: So don't don't be shocked. I'm running any in the 362 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 2: car doctor. We'll be back right after this. Don't go away. 363 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 2: Welcome back, run an any in the car doctor. Let's uh, 364 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 2: let's go over to Terry in Nebraska. Terry, welcome to 365 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 2: the car doctor. How can I help? 366 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 6: Oh? Thank you, Ron? How are you doing today, sir? 367 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 2: I'm good, sir, thank you very much. How are you? 368 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 6: Oh? I'm all right, it's kind of hot here in Nebraska. 369 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 6: It's hot out east too. 370 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hot out east, and it's kind of you know, 371 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 2: the Jersey word is schmutzy. And you know, we got 372 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 2: a thunderstorm rolling through and all kinds of dark clouds 373 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 2: and just all kinds of mean, nasty, ugly things. It's 374 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 2: a good day to be in studio with your conditioning on. 375 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,719 Speaker 2: So there you go, a safe place to go. How 376 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 2: can I help you today? 377 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 6: Oh? Oh, I guess the reason why I'm calling is 378 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 6: I just bought a twenty twenty four Ford Maverick. Congratulations, 379 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 6: doesn't have any old Well, thank Have you had a 380 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 6: chance to look at one of those it at all? 381 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? Their neat little vehicles. I wouldn't known when. I 382 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 2: don't have a reason for one right now at this moment, 383 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 2: but they're a neat little vehicle. 384 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 6: Sure, sure, I And it has it's a non hybrid. 385 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 6: It's eco boost I think they call it. And I 386 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 6: get the all wheel drive as well. Yeah, yep, it doesn't. 387 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 6: It doesn't have any doesn't have any miles on them. 388 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 6: I was just wondering when you would recommend that I 389 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 6: do the first oil change, and if a person should 390 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 6: go with what do they call it synthetic or the 391 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 6: synthetic blend or what? What would you recommend? 392 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 2: You know, Ford recommends anthetic blend on most of their vehicles, 393 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 2: and I believe that Maverick falls into that category. I've 394 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 2: never really understood the value of synthetic blend in the marketplace, 395 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 2: and I think it's a I think it's a marketing 396 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 2: dollar and cents ploy for lack of a better way 397 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 2: to put it. If a synthetic blend is I don't know, 398 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 2: pick a number seven dollars a court, and a good 399 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 2: quality synthetic is nine dollars a court. And if all 400 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 2: we were going to do is protect the vehicle better 401 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 2: and put a better quality of oil in it, you 402 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 2: know the answer of whether or not you should do 403 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 2: it can be determined by asking one question. How much 404 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,959 Speaker 2: was this twenty twenty four Ford, Maverick Terry. What did 405 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 2: it cost? 406 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 6: Oh? I think it was about thirty two thousand. 407 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 2: So you know, if you had to change the oil, 408 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 2: could just swing an extra you know, twelve bucks every 409 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 2: oil change. 410 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 6: I would hope, so, I would hope so. 411 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 2: So it kind of it kind of and and to 412 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 2: that second point, you know, how often do you change it. Well, 413 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 2: it's new. It was just assembled by a combination of 414 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 2: robots and people. All right, it was supposedly given some 415 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 2: sort of pre delivery inspection, and in theory nothing will 416 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 2: fall off it for the first couple of years. But 417 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 2: you won't know that until somebody changes the oil, somebody 418 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 2: qualified and actually looks it over. I think one of 419 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 2: the worst things you can do on vehicles is you 420 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 2: buy them new, you drive them for five thousand miles, 421 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 2: you don't change the oil. I kind of like somebody 422 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 2: under the hood at the thousand and fifteen hundred mile mark, 423 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 2: someplace that's convenient. Everything looked right, everything's settling in everything 424 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 2: where it's supposed to be. Anything leaking. You want to 425 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 2: do an oil change based on the color of the oil, Yeah, great, 426 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 2: But I like a lookover and maybe an oil change 427 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 2: somewhere between zero and two thousand miles, and then I 428 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 2: like my first oil change absolutely positively. By five thousand 429 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 2: and the vehicle just costs too much. I've seen. I've 430 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 2: seen more and more cases where the manufacturers forward among them, 431 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 2: are doing some of the stupidest things I've ever seen 432 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 2: with engines. They're running rubber belts through oil to drive 433 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 2: oil pumps and water pumps and other things. And I'm saying, 434 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 2: how is any of this going to last? What's the 435 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 2: longevity factor? And I can't stress the value of a 436 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 2: good oil change done properly, done properly though, all right, 437 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,719 Speaker 2: you know we had We've had a few oil changes 438 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 2: come through the shop in the last few weeks. One 439 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 2: most recent seat was this week. It was done at 440 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 2: a Ford dealer. I'm not knocking all the Ford dealers, 441 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 2: it was just this one Ford dealer and the customer 442 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 2: has gone nine months since the last oil change, which 443 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 2: in my opinion is too long. But the fellow that 444 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 2: put it on didn't tighten the filter and it's now 445 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 2: leaking and it's not even a motorcraft filter, which is 446 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,239 Speaker 2: the other thing that kind of snowed me. You know, 447 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 2: this particular repair shop slash dealer was doing things a 448 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 2: little on the sloppy, shady side, in my opinion. And 449 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 2: you know you're going to a Ford dealer. I think 450 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 2: you should get a Ford filter, I really do. I 451 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 2: think you should get the value of that. And they didn't. 452 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 2: They got some kakamami aftermarket, no name brand something. It's 453 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 2: leaking oil and you know, there could have been a 454 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 2: fatality here. We had another vehicle that had its oil 455 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 2: changed at a Toyota dealer that the oil filter was 456 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 2: cranked on so hard that they actually, I believe they 457 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 2: put it on with the wrench, which you're not supposed 458 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 2: to do, dented the filter and the Toyota filter was 459 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 2: just peeing oil everywhere. And the weird thing is the 460 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 2: customers complaining about an oil league kept going back. Nobody 461 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 2: could tell him where the oil was leaking from, and 462 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 2: it just became you know, so not only should the 463 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 2: oil be changed on a regular basis, all right, it 464 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 2: should be by somebody qualified that knows what they're doing, 465 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 2: that's got something between their ears other than the top 466 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 2: of their head, which becomes a hat rack. So sure, 467 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,199 Speaker 2: you know, just just my two cents, and it just 468 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 2: it's you hit a trigger there, Terry, because I saw 469 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 2: it a couple of times in the last two weeks. 470 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 2: Poor oil changes almost cost customers their vehicles, and you 471 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 2: know that's a concern, that's a real concern. 472 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 6: So I have I have one more quick question. 473 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 2: Sure two for a nickel, yes, sir, So. 474 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 6: So what are your feelings as far as buying an 475 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 6: extended warranty for a vehicle like this, would you do it? 476 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 6: Or how do you feel about things like that? 477 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 2: I like extended warranties. The answer here is going to 478 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 2: surprise you, all right. I like an extended warranty on 479 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 2: certain componentry. I like it till at least eighty or 480 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 2: ninety thousand miles. Hey, look, if the engine blows up 481 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 2: at one hundred and twenty thousand miles, chances are I'm 482 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 2: going to get rid of the vehicle. But if I 483 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 2: can get through the first eighty or ninety, and if 484 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 2: the engine fails at fifty or sixty and there's some 485 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 2: sort of calamitous something, at least it's covered because the 486 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 2: vehicle has enough life lift in it that it's worth 487 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 2: putting an engine in. If the electronics, which which in 488 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 2: my mind, the electronics are more likely to go than 489 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 2: something mechanical in this day and age, and when the 490 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 2: electronics go, heck the dashboards five thousand bucks. You know, 491 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 2: look at all the electronics that are in that car 492 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 2: that I think looks like a giant pinball machine with 493 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 2: four tires on it. You know, if I can get 494 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 2: a service contract in the two to three thousand dollars 495 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 2: range that will cover you know, what are the odds. 496 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 2: So it takes me four years to get to that 497 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 2: ninety thousand mile mark, or maybe five years, that's a 498 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 2: pretty safe bet. We had a customer recently purchased a 499 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 2: brand new Chevy Suburban. Well, I guess not recently. It's 500 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 2: two years old now, and David's suburban was one hundred 501 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 2: and three thousand dollars. It's got you know, the fancy 502 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 2: electronic air ride shocks, adjustable shocks, and suspension. And I 503 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 2: had this conversation with him. He bought the service contract because, 504 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:58,199 Speaker 2: as the dealership pointed out, you know that suspension system 505 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 2: is you know, between five and six thousand dollars to overhaul. 506 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 2: So all of a sudden, a four thousand dollars service 507 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 2: contract that cover that as well as the rest of 508 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 2: the vehicle for the first seven years doesn't look like 509 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 2: a bad deal, right. It's it's cost to repair, it's 510 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 2: the amount of technology, it's the amount of electronics. But 511 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 2: the vehicle still needs proper care. It's expensive to own 512 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,959 Speaker 2: a vehicle today. I mean, it's just it's the creature 513 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:28,479 Speaker 2: we've created, right, It's just the creature we've created so 514 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 2: all right, sir, I. 515 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 6: Really appreciate that. I enjoy your program very much. 516 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 2: You're very welcome. Thank you, Terry, glad to have you here, 517 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 2: and welcome aboard. I'm running ady in the car doctor. 518 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 2: I'm back right after this. Don't go away, welcome back, 519 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 2: run an Indy in the car doctor, rolling along this hour. 520 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 2: Let's go over and talk to Rick in Pennsylvania. Rick, 521 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 2: what's going on? How can I help? Well? 522 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 5: I appreciate taking by call. 523 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 6: I ask you don't laugh at me. 524 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 9: All I'm gonna say is I'm a woodworker. 525 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 6: I'm a boat builder my whole life. 526 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 9: I wanted to buy a Jaguar E type, so I 527 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 9: found a good one. It looks great, runs great, and 528 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 9: I'm out just driving around town. I know very little 529 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 9: about motors. I know a lot about body work, though, and. 530 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 4: I'm just driving around and she just shuts off, okay, 531 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 4: and I get a towed back, and I'm thinking, what 532 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 4: little I know? 533 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:27,479 Speaker 6: Right now? 534 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 4: I'm learning what little I know. 535 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 9: It's like fuel or spark. 536 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 4: So I checked the fuel pump and it's pumping fuel. 537 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 4: The inline filter is clean, so I'm thinking it must be. 538 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 6: The coil. 539 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 4: Now is that logical thinking? On my part, it could be. 540 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, So has this got the 541 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 2: original engine in it? Yes, it does, and the original 542 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 2: su carburetors still has carburetors, right, Okay, So does it 543 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 2: have a manual choke? 544 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 9: Yes, it does, like a three or four stage choke. 545 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. So when it stalls, does it die clean like 546 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 2: it turned off the key or does it stutter and 547 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 2: shudder and chug to a halt. 548 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 5: That's a good question. 549 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 4: It was running beautifully and that day I went for 550 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 4: a little drive. I thought it sounded like it was 551 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 4: misfiring or something was. 552 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 9: A little off. 553 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 4: And when I was driving, I was going up a 554 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 4: slight hill and that's why I thought our hill. 555 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 6: That's why I thought it. 556 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 9: Could have been the fuel line. 557 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 4: It just shut off, like I turned the key off. Okay, 558 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 4: if I and now when I turn the key on 559 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 4: now it'll crank really hard, it'll sound good. 560 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 6: It just won't start. 561 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 2: Okay, So it's broken. That's good. So so what's it missing? 562 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 2: If you put a spark tester across one of the 563 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 2: ignition wires, do you have spark at the plug? 564 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 9: Well, this is where I fall short because I don't 565 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 9: know how to do that. 566 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 2: So that's something I should right, So here let's do this. 567 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 2: Do you have a lawnmower. Okay, if your lawnmower was 568 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 2: broken and it was doing this, here's how we'd fix it, 569 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 2: all right, just to give you a comfort level. All right, 570 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 2: So don't don't let the you know the six cylinders area, 571 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 2: so you know, do you have a local parts house, 572 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 2: Go down to your local parts house, ask them for 573 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 2: a spark tester. All a spark All a spark tester 574 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 2: will do is allow you to check for spark at 575 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 2: the ignition wires. The reason we want to use it. 576 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 2: The reason we want to use a spark tester is 577 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 2: because inside of a cylinder there is compression. Compression is 578 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 2: the build up of pressure. Right, If a cylinder has 579 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty psi in it, but the ignition 580 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 2: system is strong enough to push that little spark out 581 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 2: of the ignition system through the wire, across the gap 582 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 2: of the plug and fire the fuel mixture. If it's 583 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 2: strong enough to do it at one hundred and fifty psi, 584 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 2: it's a good system to take a screwdriver shove it 585 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 2: in the spark plug wire like everybody does or seems 586 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 2: to do, and test it in atmosphere. You know, there's 587 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 2: typically fourteen point eight pounds of pressure at sea level, 588 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 2: So fifteen pounds of pressure at sea level versus one 589 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty pounds of compression and a cylinder, it's 590 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 2: not a really accurate test, doesn't put the ignition system 591 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 2: under duress. So the twenty thirty bucks at your local 592 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 2: parts house for a spark tester, plus you can fix 593 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 2: your loanmowre with it. Should it ever not start, all right, 594 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 2: because you are correct, all right in it's either mechanical 595 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 2: fuel or ignition. This is a nineteen seventy automobile. There's 596 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 2: no computers involved here, all right. So if it's got fuel, 597 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 2: all right, and there's fuel at the carbs, and for 598 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 2: that matter, when you pull a spark plug, if it 599 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 2: looks wet, that tells you that there's fuel getting in 600 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 2: the cylinder is just not igniting. You're a woodworking guy. 601 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 2: You guys are pretty smart. You ever go camping? 602 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 5: Sure? 603 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 2: How did I know that? Right? 604 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 5: You ever built? 605 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 2: You ever build a fire? Right? You guys like wood? 606 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 2: I know you would workers. That's how you guys are, 607 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 2: and you're smart enough to know you get a nice 608 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 2: dry piece of oak flares right up right. Yeah, that's 609 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 2: that's good combustion. Okay. And then when you take your 610 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 2: kids and they bring you that wet piece of pine, 611 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 2: you go, yeah, no, no, no, no, no, why why 612 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 2: why doesn't that Why doesn't that pine burn ricks? It's 613 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 2: got moisture? Right, So you know, we want we want clean, 614 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 2: dry fuel. We want a hot flame, and that cylinder 615 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 2: is going to fire. So let's see do we have spark. 616 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 2: If we have spark at the plug, that eliminates everything 617 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 2: going back. If we don't have spark at the plug, 618 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 2: go to the coil wire. The spark tester should fit 619 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 2: in the coil wire. You're gonna ground one side of 620 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 2: the spark tester like you did to check the wires. 621 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 2: Put it across the coil wire. Does it have spark there? 622 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 2: If it has spark coming out of the coil, then 623 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 2: your problem is somewhere between the distributor cap and the 624 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 2: ignition wire. Maybe a bad rotor, maybe the rotors uh 625 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 2: grounding out. Maybe the distributor cap is bad, but at 626 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 2: least it gives you a place to start, all right. 627 00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 2: If you if you can't get spark out of the coil, 628 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 2: then we've got to go back towards the coil. Are 629 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 2: there are there are there points in this card? Do 630 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 2: you know ignition points? I think there was in seventy. 631 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 6: I don't know. That's a good question. 632 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 2: Okay, if there's points, it's just a breaker style ignition system. 633 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 2: One side of the coil is going to be positive, 634 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 2: the other side of the coil is going to be negative. 635 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 2: You should have twelve volts coming in from the ignition 636 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 2: switch and the negative side should make and break as 637 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 2: the points opening close. All right, So just just basics, man, 638 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 2: It's just it's like fixing a lawnmriw. You just got 639 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 2: multiple cylinders. Do that? Call me back next week. 640 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 6: You're the man. 641 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 5: Thank you so much. 642 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 2: You're very welcome. Rick, take good care. I'm running any 643 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 2: in the car doctor. We're back right after this. Don't 644 00:32:40,960 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 2: go away, no welcome back, ron An Amy in the 645 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 2: car doctor. I got an email this week from Peter 646 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 2: down in Delaware. I think it is. He's got a 647 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 2: twenty twelve subrew Forrester of seventy nine thousand miles on it. 648 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 2: He bought it new, he had it regularly service at 649 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 2: the Suberbrew dealer, and he told me the story through 650 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 2: the email that beginning back in June of twenty two, 651 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 2: the car was hard to start. The battery seems strong, 652 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 2: the engine readily turned over. It just wouldn't start. Got 653 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 2: it to the Suberbrew dealership. They couldn't replicate the problem, 654 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 2: but said there was an issue with the battery. The 655 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 2: battery was under warrantine was replaced in the next month, 656 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 2: the same problem. The engine readily turned over. A car 657 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 2: won't start. Once again, they couldn't duplicate it, so nothing 658 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 2: was done. They've driven the car since, no starting problems 659 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 2: until just recently, and this is two years later. The 660 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 2: engine turns over, the car won't start. Triple A towed 661 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 2: the car and the same thing. So it's been fine 662 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 2: for three weeks and now it's going through the same 663 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 2: thing again. Was there anything I could do to help him? 664 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 2: He cited an instance where about well, I guess ten 665 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 2: years ago I helped him with something else. I'm not 666 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 2: exactly sure. It's been a while, you know, And he's 667 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 2: glad to be able to hear me once again down 668 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 2: in Virginia. Was originally a North Jersey guy, you know, Peter, 669 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 2: And for Peter's sake and everyone else out there. So 670 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 2: I asked for the VIN because I enjoy a challenge 671 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,280 Speaker 2: like this. And I took the VIN and I plugged 672 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,320 Speaker 2: it into a couple of different databases that we subscribe 673 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 2: to that we work with, and I came up with 674 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 2: three bulletins that talk about a scenario like this of 675 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 2: no starts. Engine cranks okay, but it doesn't start, it 676 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 2: doesn't fire. And there were two instances of problems with 677 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,240 Speaker 2: PCMs the powertrain control module. One called for Powertrain Control 678 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 2: Module replacement, the other one called for software updates to 679 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 2: the powertrain Control module. And then the third bulletin talked 680 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 2: about problems with the camshaft position sensor, as this is 681 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 2: a known problem in this era of super and I 682 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 2: sent those off the p and I guess the point 683 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 2: of this is, I'm surprised the dealer didn't do that 684 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 2: or at least bring it up to him. Always ask 685 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 2: your dealer are they looking at all the possibilities? And 686 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 2: maybe that does it for him until the next time. 687 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 2: Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless.