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Speaker 1: This is the OTP presented by Farm Bureau Health Plans.

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Speaker 1: When it's game day for your health coverage, trust Farm

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Speaker 1: They've been backing Tennesseeans for nearly eighty years. So glad

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Speaker 1: to welcome head coach Brian Callahan after a big win.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations on knocking off the Patriots in overtime twenty to seventeen.

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Speaker 1: I must say, it never gets old beating the New

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Speaker 1: England Patriots. No, it doesn't.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, it never gets old winning. That's always

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Speaker 2: always fun to be able to get a win, no

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Speaker 2: matter who it's against, her, what team it is. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean there's definitely some AFC love and hate with

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Speaker 2: the most teams in the Patriots these days. It's always

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Speaker 2: good to get one.

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Speaker 1: Well, they kind of had a twenty year run that

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Speaker 1: was pretty spectacular that most teams don't ever get to enjoy.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, so it was fun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was good for them, It was good, but

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Speaker 1: Sunday was good for us.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it was.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations again, thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: I was really good to see how our team responded

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Speaker 2: against all the things that sort of went up back

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Speaker 2: and forth throughout the course of the game and then

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Speaker 2: to find a way to pull it out of the end.

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Speaker 2: And the way we played in overtime was pretty impressive.

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Speaker 3: Now, we talked about the physicality in Buffalo, we talked

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Speaker 3: about the physicality in Detroit, and it did not let

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Speaker 3: up at all against the New England Patriots. So now

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Speaker 3: here you are preparing for another game against the Los

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Speaker 3: Angeles Chargers, and we know that Jim Harbaugh will bully

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Speaker 3: any team that he can. They they play physical football

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Speaker 3: as well. How do you balance preparing your team for

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Speaker 3: another game with managing a lot of bumps and bruises

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Speaker 3: and other things that this team is dealing with right now.

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Speaker 2: That's the challenge is to practice enough where you feel

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Speaker 2: like you're ready to go play and to be able

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Speaker 2: to rest, manage load, manage all those things of all

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Speaker 2: the guys that have things that they're working through. And

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Speaker 2: then there's always a cumulative effect down the roster. When

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Speaker 2: you have guys that missed practice, well, then they other

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Speaker 2: get the backups practice more than the practice squad practice more.

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Speaker 2: And then at one point I looked up in practice

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Speaker 2: last week and the three practice squad receivers went from

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Speaker 2: doing the scout team for the defense, and they just walked,

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Speaker 2: went right back and just started running offense. So they

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Speaker 2: never had a break, and so they their load goes

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Speaker 2: sky high, and so that's when you start to see

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Speaker 2: their injuries pop up as they overload what they should

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Speaker 2: be doing for them. So anyway, it's a long winded

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Speaker 2: way of saying that that's the challenging part of the

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Speaker 2: season and our buy being at week five, it feels

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Speaker 2: like we never had one at this point, you know,

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Speaker 2: and now we got a lot of games in front

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Speaker 2: of us, so have to be really smart a little

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Speaker 2: bit creative on how we manage the practice week and

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Speaker 2: what we do with the players, and how we structure

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Speaker 2: walk throughs versus practice and all those things. So, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's only that matters is what we look like on Sunday,

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Speaker 2: and my goal is to get our team there as

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Speaker 2: fresh and as feeling as good as possible by the

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Speaker 1: You shouted out some guys specifically in your Monday press conference,

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Speaker 1: and I'd like for you to comment on that a

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Speaker 1: little bit further. The first one I want to talk

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Speaker 1: last week, running back Tony Pollard.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just an incredible effort.

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Speaker 2: He is a phenomenal football player, and I mean that

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Speaker 2: in every sense of the word. He does things right

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Speaker 2: all the time. He's one of the most consistent people

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Speaker 2: we have, both in personality and in play. He didn't

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Speaker 2: not feeling great, I mean he didn't. He didn't practice

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Speaker 2: And I told him after the game, I just I

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Speaker 3: The first defensive player that you mentioned was a Moni Hooker,

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Speaker 3: and I'm guessing that that has more to do with

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Speaker 2: That's what you know, that's where you know a Moni's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I want to ask about the last play

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Speaker 1: Did you? Did your heart drop well into your stomach

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Speaker 2: Yeah, anytime that you see you know, I recognized their

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Speaker 2: they got something they like. Now, whether it's there for

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Speaker 2: the entirety of the play, but initially when they when

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Speaker 1: I too was thankful for the wind that he was

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Speaker 2: I mean the win and the win was a factor.

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Speaker 1: All right, So you want to ask about a couple

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Speaker 1: more guys, He shouted a couple.

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Speaker 3: More shout outs. Yes, you also mentioned Daniel Brunskull and

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Speaker 2: Just pressed into duty and neither one of those guys

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Speaker 2: that's played a lot yet this year. Now, Obviously, Danny's

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Speaker 2: I wasn't worried about him going in and performing. He's

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Speaker 2: and we brought him in half with, you know, a

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Speaker 2: I mean you saw their experience. And so having two

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Speaker 2: in those moments. And both those guys I thought played,

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Speaker 3: So let's talk about the offensive line a little bit,

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Speaker 3: because with Lloyd Cushion Erry out. You made it clear

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Speaker 3: So two questions out of that number one, are you

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Speaker 3: brun School's the right answer at center?

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Speaker 2: The first question, I just I thought Dylan was close

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Speaker 2: this last week. Again, we'll see you don't necessarily really

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Speaker 2: for those guys are gonna be critical factors for us

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Speaker 2: here moving forward with Lloyd's injury unfortunately, and and Ruppiche

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Speaker 2: those guys have made it a lot easier to absorb

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Speaker 1: With Quandrey digs out, it's safety. Does Mike Brown get

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Speaker 1: the first shot to win that job? Yeah, he will.

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Speaker 2: I mean he's the most experienced, he's played the most.

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Speaker 2: there too. But we just need we need more depth

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Speaker 2: a safety, right now we just don't have enough with

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Speaker 2: the injuries we've incurred, and so Michael get the first

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Speaker 2: shot and be the likely got to take that role

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Speaker 2: for now. But we'll see where it all ends up

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Speaker 2: as we get through the early part.

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Speaker 1: Of the week. Okay, I've got three areas of significant

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Speaker 1: statistical improvement. Not easy to say, no significant statistical improvement

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Speaker 1: from the win. Amy's got the first one.

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Speaker 3: I do have the first one. For the first time

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Speaker 3: this year, the Tennessee Titans won the turnover battle over

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Speaker 3: the New England Patriots. Is that the best reason that

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Speaker 3: the Titans won the game on Sunday?

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Speaker 2: It certainly goes a long way, you know, it's something

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Speaker 2: that we've spent a lot of time I'm trying to

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Speaker 2: get rectified. And there's no greater stat to wins and

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Speaker 2: losses in the turnover margin. And it's you know, the

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Speaker 3: Coach, I want to ask you about Jack Gibbons because

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Speaker 2: We're you know, we're gonna need everybody at this point.

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Speaker 1: So to the Titans, it's a three zero five start,

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Speaker 1: As usual, we appreciate it. Thanks for especially after the win.

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Speaker 1: It's the man himself, none other than Daniel Jeremiah, NFL

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Speaker 1: this week, Daniel, when I promoted your appearance in the

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Speaker 5: Welcome, but it's great to be with you guys. I

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Speaker 5: and Titans do play each other a lot as well,

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Speaker 5: so we get our little bonus meetings in here.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and we do see each other a lot. But

439
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Speaker 3: someone else that we see a lot is Jim Naggy

440
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Speaker 3: from the Senior Bowl. And next week we've got him

441
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Speaker 3: on the show. It's kind of our annual November visit

442
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Speaker 3: from executive director Jim Naggi. He's the executive director of

443
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Speaker 3: the Senior Bowl. And Daniel, if you were the one

444
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Speaker 3: asking the questions of Naggy next week, what would be

445
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Speaker 3: your very first question?

446
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Speaker 5: My very first question for Naggy would obviously be why

447
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,119
Speaker 5: didn't you invite more app state players? And what do

448
00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,360
Speaker 5: you have against them? I mean, that would be hard.

449
00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,359
Speaker 5: That's the obvious, Yeah, that's the obvious one. The second

450
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Speaker 5: question I would ask, and maybe maybe just because I

451
00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:22,160
Speaker 5: know him, I can get away with this, but are

452
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Speaker 5: you taking a zempech Because I've seen him did in

453
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Speaker 5: the shape that I remember being on the road with Naggi,

454
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Speaker 5: and I think he's he is He is looking like

455
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Speaker 5: he's a featherweight right now. So I would ask if

456
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Speaker 5: this is all legit? That's what I would ask.

457
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Speaker 3: Naggy I think that's a good A good place for

458
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Speaker 3: us to start is Jim Naggy's training. Well, let's switch

459
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Speaker 3: over to the Chargers in their training a little bit,

460
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Speaker 3: because the season's in full swing, and how much time

461
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Speaker 3: do you personally spend preparing during the week, balancing the

462
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Speaker 3: Chargers and then also preparing for the twenty twenty five

463
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Speaker 3: NFL because you do have a lot of responsibilities throughout

464
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Speaker 3: the draft and other NFL.

465
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Speaker 5: It's interesting that you bring that question up because this

466
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Speaker 5: the line of demarcation is like Halloween for me. So

467
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Speaker 5: that's when I know, okay, the draft is it's like

468
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Speaker 5: this big, you know, gorilla that jumps on your back,

469
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Speaker 5: and it's like, okay, I try and put it out

470
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Speaker 5: of my head and I'm going to focus on the Chargers,

471
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Speaker 5: focus on the stuff I'm doing, NFL Network, NFL, NFL, NFL,

472
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Speaker 5: NFL and then we get to Halloween and it's like, okay,

473
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Speaker 5: there's enough games in the college schedule. Now, it doesn't

474
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Speaker 5: really benefit me to start early on in the process because,

475
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Speaker 5: you know, the quality of opponents not necessarily there for

476
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Speaker 5: some of these programs. It's not a great, you know,

477
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,360
Speaker 5: litmus test for a lot of these players, Well, now

478
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,680
Speaker 5: you're deep into the conference play, they've all played quality opponents,

479
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,639
Speaker 5: So this is like kind of my launching point. And

480
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 5: we were just talking before we went on. I was

481
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Speaker 5: in Cleveland last week with the Chargers, got a chance

482
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Speaker 5: to go watch Michigan Oregon, so it was a good

483
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 5: chance to watch some of those players on tape, and

484
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Speaker 5: it was kind of like my like just just jumping

485
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Speaker 5: off the diving board and doing a cannonball into into

486
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Speaker 5: a pool of players that I'm going to be swimming

487
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Speaker 5: in for the next several months.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of draft, go back to twenty twenty four for

489
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Speaker 1: a second. From what you've seen around the season and

490
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Speaker 1: from what you know as you start to prepare for

491
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Speaker 1: the Titans, your thoughts on the top two picks, JC

492
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Speaker 1: Latham and to and Andre Sweats rookie years halfway through.

493
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm more familiar with Sweat, just from you know,

494
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 5: talking to people around in the league when I'm doing

495
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 5: the podcast and things, so asking hey, who's playing, well,

496
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 5: who should I watch? Who do you want me to study,

497
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,439
Speaker 5: and who can we talk about on the podcast, And

498
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 5: Sweat's name has come up several times. So I've watched

499
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Speaker 5: a lot of him this year and have been impressed

500
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Speaker 5: with the way he's played. He's been, I mean, he's

501
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,439
Speaker 5: been better than I would have hoped he would be.

502
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Speaker 5: So I've been impressed there. Now as we're recording this,

503
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 5: I haven't got into the Titans' stuff this week, so

504
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 5: I have a chance to see everybody else. I'll get

505
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Speaker 5: a chance to see Latham, who I was very high on,

506
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,880
Speaker 5: you know, coming through the draft process, just how talented

507
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 5: he was. So I'm excited and we get a chance

508
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 5: to visit person here on the weekend, you know, we

509
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 5: can have that conversation. I'm looking forward to studying them.

510
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Speaker 1: Some news already this week around the NFL. The Raiders

511
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 1: have fired offensive coordinator Luke Getzi. But the bigger news

512
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 1: New Orleans parts ways with head coach Dennis Allen. Highly

513
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:22,919
Speaker 1: respected Saints special teams coordinator Darren Rizzy is the interim coach.

514
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 1: The Saints have lost seven in a row. But Daniel,

515
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Speaker 1: what's on the salary cap horizon for New Orleans is scary?

516
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 1: I mean scary? Is that going to potentially scare off

517
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Speaker 1: candidates for the New Orleans full time position for twenty

518
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Speaker 1: twenty five?

519
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Speaker 5: Well, I'll tell you what I mean the answer I

520
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 5: always get what I bring this up with people around

521
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 5: the league and is, look, there's only thirty two of

522
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Speaker 5: these things, Like, you can't be picky. You don't know

523
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,640
Speaker 5: when you're going to get your shot or your opportunity,

524
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 5: and you know you can make any job a good job.

525
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 5: You know there it's the highest level, and there's only

526
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Speaker 5: so many of these jobs.

527
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Speaker 1: Open.

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Speaker 5: Man, You're in a draft, which from the early work

529
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,919
Speaker 5: that I've done, is not a great quarterback draft. So

530
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Speaker 5: that's a way to solve some of your financial issues

531
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Speaker 5: is you get one of these cheap quarterbacks and then

532
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 5: you end up, you know, eventually figuring out what to

533
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 5: do with car and then you can at least have

534
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Speaker 5: some savings at that position, the most expensive position. Well,

535
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Speaker 5: it's not a great opportunity to do that at the

536
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Speaker 5: top of the draft. Then you look at it, Okay,

537
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Speaker 5: well we can just cut a bunch of these guys

538
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,400
Speaker 5: and then we'll take all of our medicine in one year.

539
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 5: But based off my initial study and understanding, that's not

540
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Speaker 5: really possible here, you know, to be able to do

541
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Speaker 5: that to get some savings. So it feels a lot

542
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Speaker 5: like if you if you have kids, Mike, I know

543
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Speaker 5: you're with with older kids like me, where it's like, hey,

544
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Speaker 5: you know that book report I told you about a

545
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 5: month ago. Yeah, it's due tomorrow. Like, how are we

546
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Speaker 5: doing on that thing? Have we started that project yet?

547
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 5: Like it is going to be a mess trying to

548
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Speaker 5: figure out how to get under the cap and feel

549
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Speaker 5: the competitive team. Not for next year, maybe for the

550
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Speaker 5: next couple of years.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk Chargers and head coach Jim Harbaugh. What are

552
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Speaker 1: the biggest changes Daniel in the Chargers with Jim Harbaugh

553
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Speaker 1: in charge.

554
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Speaker 5: They don't beat themselves. I Mean, it sounds basic, but

555
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 5: when you watch them, they have the number one scoring

556
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 5: defense in the NFL, and you look at it say, okay,

557
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 5: they've got some good and there's some good pieces there. Obviously,

558
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Speaker 5: you know Khalil Max, a great player in the Hall

559
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 5: of Fame. Player Joey Bosa has not been healthy all

560
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Speaker 5: year long. Derwin James has been a great player in

561
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Speaker 5: this league for a long time. But they're playing two

562
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Speaker 5: fifth round rookie corners. They're playing a young linebackers, a

563
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 5: first year full time starter in Dayon Henley Puna Ford,

564
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,199
Speaker 5: who've been kind of you know, a serviceable somewhat. You know,

565
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 5: Journeyman has played lights out, But this is what it is.

566
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Speaker 5: They don't beat themselves. They don't miss tackles, they don't

567
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Speaker 5: blow coverages, they don't give you anything easy. They make

568
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Speaker 5: you earn everything from that side of the ball. And

569
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Speaker 5: then on the offensive side of the ball, they're committed

570
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Speaker 5: to run the football even if it's not working, which

571
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Speaker 5: in turn helps keep Justin Herbert in a good place.

572
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Speaker 5: You know, it lessens the hits he takes, it gives

573
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Speaker 5: your defense rest, keeps them fresh and what they're doing.

574
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Speaker 5: And then now they've started to see Lad McConkie really

575
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 5: come on and become a key part of this passing game.

576
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 5: Quentin Johnston is back in the lineup and he's taken

577
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Speaker 5: a big leap from a frustrating first year to a

578
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Speaker 5: second year. So it's they have an identity. I mean,

579
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 5: maybe that's the simplest way to say it. They know

580
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Speaker 5: exactly who they are and what they are. And you know,

581
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 5: you look around this league right now, and I love

582
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 5: to get both your takes on it, but I mean

583
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 5: we're halfway through the season and I know the year

584
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 5: hasn't gone the way. You know, this or the Titans

585
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 5: would love it. But I look around the league and

586
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 5: I'm like, where are all the great teams. I mean,

587
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,719
Speaker 5: I've seen the Kansas City Chiefs. They're undefeated. I mean

588
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 5: the Chargers were down Derwin James. I think they gave

589
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 5: up seventeen points in that game, Like even the undefeated Chiefs.

590
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Speaker 5: I just feel like this year there's no there is

591
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 5: no great team in the league right now.

592
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Speaker 1: Best team we've seen is Detroit.

593
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yes that I've not seen them in person, but

594
00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:00,239
Speaker 5: their tape every week they dominate people. They do not

595
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Speaker 5: play to the level of their opponent. They have been dominating.

596
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Speaker 3: But to your point, Daniel, it does feel like everyone's

597
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 3: kind of bunched up in the middle there and we

598
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 3: still haven't seen a lot of teams separate themselves. And

599
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 3: a lot of that comes down to offense and the

600
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Speaker 3: different offense that we're seeing. When we talk about the

601
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Speaker 3: Chargers and you mentioned their commitment to the run game,

602
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Speaker 3: why is JK. Dobbins the right running back for the

603
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Speaker 3: Chargers in twenty twenty four what they're trying to do, that's.

604
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Speaker 5: A great question. The thing with JKS anytime he's been healthy,

605
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 5: he's produced. I mean, when he was healthy in Baltimore,

606
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 5: he was excellent. He just had the injury bug, but

607
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 5: he was highly thought of coming out of college, come

608
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Speaker 5: out of Ohio State. I love them. When he's been

609
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 5: on the field, he's been great. He knows what this

610
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 5: offense looks like. With Greg Rohman, he has experience there,

611
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 5: so there's no learning curve for what they're looking for.

612
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 5: He just a perfect fit for what they want to do.

613
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Speaker 5: And it's got to be nice as a running back.

614
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Speaker 5: And I'm sure with Derrick Henry all those years, and

615
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 5: I'm not saying it's Derrick Henry, but there's that that

616
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 5: knowledge of you know what, even if we are if

617
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 5: we're getting one yards, two yards minus one yards, there's

618
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 5: other play callers and teams that'll be like, okay, scrap that,

619
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Speaker 5: you know, let's just throw it. There's when you would

620
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 5: commit it to be a run team, and you live

621
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Speaker 5: through the ones and the twos and the zeros and

622
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Speaker 5: the minus ones. Then guess what, that's where the forties

623
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Speaker 5: and the thirties, you know, and the twenty eight yard

624
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,239
Speaker 5: runs start to pop when those teams are committed to it.

625
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 5: So I think I think JK has uh has a

626
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 5: healthy appreciation for being in the situation he's Then.

627
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 3: Jim Harbaugh really seems to love quarterback Justin Herbert, like

628
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 3: really seems so up are the Chargers asking Herbert to

629
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 3: play anything differently? Or how is he adjusting to this

630
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 3: new coaching staff.

631
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Speaker 5: In our conversation with him Friday night, I told him,

632
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Speaker 5: I said, this is a litmus test for where you

633
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 5: are as an organization and if you have championship aspirations,

634
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,239
Speaker 5: how it's Halloween And he kind of looked at me,

635
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 5: and I said, if you go out trick or treating

636
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 5: and you don't see a lot of kids dressed up

637
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 5: as you're starting quarterback, then then you're not going to

638
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 5: win a championship. And that's what I told him, And

639
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 5: then he went on and on and on about Justin

640
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 5: at that point time and with culminating in him saying,

641
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 5: I hope he's the last quarterback I ever coach, Like,

642
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 5: he absolutely loves him, and I there's reason obviously to

643
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 5: love him. Justin is is so gifted. He's so big,

644
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 5: he's he's so strong, he's athletic, he's smart, he's tough,

645
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 5: all the things that you want from that standpoint, But

646
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Speaker 5: I also think if you go back and look at

647
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Speaker 5: Harbaugh's track record, everywhere he's been, he's always pumped his

648
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 5: quarterback and he what he does is he just pumps

649
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 5: him full of confidence. And I think about so many

650
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 5: of these organizations and teams they kind of half step

651
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 5: on their quarterbacks. You know, let's see how it goes,

652
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 5: and maybe no guarantees who's going to start next week.

653
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 5: Like he is, it is a full throated endorsement of uh,

654
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 5: I believe in this player. And how does that not

655
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 5: have an impact? I saw it with with the Rams

656
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 5: when they went when coach Fisher was there and it

657
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 5: was kind of a defensive team and Jared Goff was

658
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 5: kind of, you know, wasn't playing great, and then Sean

659
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 5: McVay came in as an offensive coach and was just

660
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 5: Jared Goff like a totally different player because he just had,

661
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 5: you know, he had some real belief in him and

662
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 5: what he could do. So I think it's a pretty

663
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 5: powerful technique, to be.

664
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Speaker 3: Honest, well, and part of that is giving him weapons

665
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 3: around him to help him out. And he's got a

666
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 3: lot of new pass catchers in twenty twenty four. Who

667
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 3: is standing out the most among those receiving options.

668
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 5: I think it's McConkey, and I'll get crushed for it

669
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,959
Speaker 5: when I say it, but it's like it's so obvious.

670
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 5: Like you watch him, he looks like Julian Edelman. He

671
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 5: looks just like him when he's out there in the slot.

672
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 5: He's so quick. I think a lot of times with

673
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 5: the with receivers that can play inside, and we talk

674
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 5: about quickness, and we think about getting off the line

675
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 5: of scrimmage and we think of, okay, it gets to

676
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 5: the top of his route, how quick can he sink

677
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 5: and separate his ability after he is squared up to

678
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 5: the quarterback to catch the ball and then transitioned back

679
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 5: upfield and get seven, eight nine extra yards. I just

680
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 5: I saw Edlmand do that for so many years, and

681
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 5: he's got the trust of Herbert. I mean at Keenan,

682
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 5: Allen was his like little security blanket. Anytime you had

683
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 5: a big down, that's where the ball was going. You

684
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 5: knew it, and he had the utmost faith in him

685
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 5: all these new players around him. As we're getting deeper

686
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 5: into the season, I kind of pay attention to those

687
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 5: key downs and I'm like, Okay, you better find Lad mcconkeye,

688
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 5: because that's who Herbert has really really gained some trust.

689
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: In Daniel Jeremiah, who among the former Tennessee Titans are

690
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 1: standing out most on the current Los Angeles Chargers roster.

691
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 5: Moulden's been a godsend, you know, and he's still young.

692
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 5: He just jumped right into the lineup and kind of

693
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 5: found a role and picked everything up, learned everything right away.

694
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 5: He's just kind of been a ball magnet. He's always

695
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 5: around the ball. There was a play, you know, or

696
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 5: his his interception that he got this last week, Tar

697
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 5: Heat still was in the in the corner of the

698
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 5: end zone. He makes a heck of a play and

699
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 5: bats the ball up in the air, and it's like

700
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 5: I could have told you before the ball came down

701
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 5: that Elijah Molden is going to be there waiting for

702
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 5: it because he just kind of has has found a

703
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 5: way to be right place, right time. And when you've

704
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 5: got Derwin James who's so versatile in the things he

705
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 5: can do, you got a Loie Gilman who's like the

706
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 5: traffic cop who's gonna, you know, get everybody lined up,

707
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 5: Elijah Molden can just kind of be the football player

708
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 5: in their three safety looks, and he's been really, really good.

709
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: The Harbaugh family loves special teams, loves special teams. Have

710
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: you seen a change in special teams philosophy and have

711
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: you seen special teams improvement this year?

712
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 5: Well, coming off the Cleveland game, and when you get

713
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 5: a chance to dig in on the video, you'll see it.

714
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 5: I mean, you have Darius Davis with a long kick return.

715
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 5: You know he'd been there. This is his second year,

716
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 5: but he's he's an outstanding returner. He makes a big

717
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 5: time return. Tier Tart, who was an awesome addition by

718
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 5: je Ortiz, the general manager coming over from Miami's a

719
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 5: defensive tackle. He blocks a field goal in this game.

720
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 5: I know he's he actually missed an extra point and

721
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 5: I believe he missed a field goal as well. Yeah,

722
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 5: he did miss his first field goal. He's missed under

723
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 5: fifty yards for Cameron Dicker, but he's been as accurate

724
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 5: as any kicker in the league. So a lot of

725
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 5: these players, you know, we're here outside of Tart before

726
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 5: Harball got here, and it's the same special teams coach

727
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 5: with Ficken, who's one of the best in the league.

728
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 5: So you know, coach Harball is brother John, and obviously

729
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 5: being a special teams coach before a head coach. I'm

730
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 5: sure they spend, you know, a good amount of time

731
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 5: on this, but this is a special team group that

732
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 5: even in the absence of success as a team last year,

733
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 5: you could see some of the signs that, Okay, they've

734
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 5: got they've got a returner, they've got a kicker, they've

735
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 5: got JK. Scott's been an excellent punter. So they are.

736
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 5: They are truly one of the best special teams in

737
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 5: the NFL. And I think it's emphasized, but I think

738
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 5: I would on that one particularly, I would give some

739
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 5: credit to, you know, to the previous group who put

740
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 5: some of those guys in place.

741
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 3: How would you characterize the Chargers defense under new coordinator

742
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 3: Jesse Mintter.

743
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 5: Disciplined, organized, the Maybe the best visual of it is

744
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 5: if you guys are watching these games every week, there's

745
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 5: something that's so simple to see it. If you're watching

746
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 5: at home as a fan, you'll see it. Do you

747
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 5: see like the bad defenses always seem like they're chaotic,

748
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 5: you know, it's like there's a there's there's guys running

749
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,479
Speaker 5: on the field late to try and match personnel there's

750
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 5: trying to get a call on communication. It's there's none

751
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 5: of that. Jesse Minner has has it, and I don't

752
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 5: know if he's just has simplified things with what they do.

753
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 5: They give you a lot of simulated pressures and some

754
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 5: exotic looks, but I never see chaos. And that's why

755
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 5: you don't see busted coverages. You don't see mental mistakes.

756
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 5: They spend a lot of time working on angles for tackles.

757
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 5: I know in the NFL, you know, one of the

758
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 5: challenges for teams is that you don't really you don't

759
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 5: hit as much in practice, and you got to get

760
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 5: guys healthy and keep them through the seven team game gauntlets,

761
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 5: so you can't tackle like that. Well, he's he's he's

762
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 5: a big believer in tackling, you know, more so than

763
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 5: even you know, form tackling, the seahawk method, whatever way

764
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 5: you want to teach people to tackle people. His thing

765
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 5: is if you don't take the right angle, it doesn't matter.

766
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 5: So they spend a lot of times on knowing where

767
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 5: leverage is, knowing where you've got other defenders coming to

768
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 5: help you. So if you are going to miss, you're

769
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 5: going to be on the right side to force him

770
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 5: back to your teammates. But they are, you know, they

771
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 5: are a really good tackling team and I think that's,

772
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 5: you know, one of the one of the underrated things

773
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 5: of great defenses. Everybody's a pass rush, third down, red

774
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 5: zone like all those important things, but at the end

775
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 5: of the day, it's still tackling. You have to be

776
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 5: able to tackle guys, and they do it really well.

777
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 3: Well. Let's talk about some of those pass rushers though,

778
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 3: because the Chargers have a lot of them. Khalil Mack

779
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 3: is the more well known name. But who else is

780
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 3: making a difference in the pass rush?

781
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, two guys, I would say two Ley Twoey Pelotu

782
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,720
Speaker 5: coming off a two and a half sack game against

783
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 5: the Clean Brown's has been a great player out of USC.

784
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 5: He's he's kind of in that mold of Khalil or

785
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 5: Khalil is a power rusher. That's what he's going to

786
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 5: do as well. He's going to try and get you

787
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 5: off balance and go right through your pads. He's really

788
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,720
Speaker 5: physical and he's been kind of that when they're healthy,

789
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 5: when they're at their best is when Bosa is healthy,

790
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 5: which he's not right now. Mac is rolling and then

791
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 5: Tooley's kind of that third rusher, and they'll put them

792
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 5: all out there together and run games and do different things.

793
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 5: But Tooley's been a really good player. And then maybe

794
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 5: more of the more underappreciated players is Morgan Fox, who's

795
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 5: an interior pass rusher who can It's a little bit

796
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 5: undersize but excellent, just kind of getting on edges and

797
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 5: getting up the field. So you know, when you have

798
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 5: the edge rush that they have, every quarterback is going

799
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 5: to try and climb up in the pocket to get

800
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 5: away from it. So you got to have somebody inside

801
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 5: that can can take that away. And that's kind of been.

802
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: Morgan Fox's Daniel Jeremiah. How close is Joey Bosa to

803
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: getting back to being Joey Bosa?

804
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 5: You know, I don't know if you would put a

805
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 5: percent on it. He's snap counts very limited. He's playing,

806
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,919
Speaker 5: you know, mostly on pass rush situations. I haven't seen

807
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,439
Speaker 5: the number from this last game, but I'm the week before.

808
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,760
Speaker 5: I want to say you're talking twenty to twenty five snaps,

809
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 5: So I mean, just off my naked eye, I would

810
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 5: say Joe's probably fifty sixty percent and that's about it.

811
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 5: But he's still he's someone you have to account for.

812
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 5: He still get found away, gets some pressure last week

813
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 5: against Cleveland. He just knows how to rush. It's like

814
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 5: we always joke, it's the family business. I mean with

815
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 5: him and Nick, they really do. By the way, go

816
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 5: to a park in Florida and work on pass rush

817
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,439
Speaker 5: like your kids are probably there playing on the jungle gym,

818
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 5: and you look over and there's two of the highest

819
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 5: paid best defensive linemen in the NFL working hand moves

820
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 5: in pass rush. So they are obsessed with it all

821
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 5: the way up to their dad. But he's not anywhere

822
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 5: near one hundred percent, but he's still found a way

823
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 5: to be impactful. But you know, as as someone, he

824
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 5: was always enjoyed watching defensive line play, And I watched

825
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 5: just to cut up this morning because I wanted to

826
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 5: see it. Jeffery Simmons might be my favorite defensive lineman

827
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 5: to watch in the NFL. So I'm selfishly looking forward

828
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 5: to a fun defensive line matchup in this ball game.

829
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: Overall, what's the biggest concern about this Chargers football team

830
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 1: is the season hits its midway point. Daniel.

831
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 5: If you'd ask me that two weeks ago, I would

832
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 5: have said corners, they've had some injuries, they're having to

833
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 5: play a lot of young guys. But these two fifth

834
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 5: round picks, rookies, you know, cam Hart and tar Heaps

835
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 5: still are just getting better and better every week. They've

836
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 5: played really well well with the Sante Samuel being out,

837
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 5: Sante Samuel Junior being out, Justre Taylor's been hurt. Fulton,

838
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 5: who had been playing well is you know, has been hurt.

839
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 5: So these young guys have stepped in there. So I

840
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 5: would say I feel better about that, and maybe I

841
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 5: did a few weeks back. My biggest concern probably is,

842
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 5: and this will be interesting in this game, interior offensive

843
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 5: line against the pass. Like as pass protection with the

844
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 5: interior group hasn't been great. The two tackles Slater in all,

845
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,720
Speaker 5: as long as they're not having to play against Miles

846
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 5: Garrett have been awesome. Miles Garrett, he's a freak show.

847
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 5: He put on a show in that game last week.

848
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 5: He's unbelievable. But for the most part this year it's

849
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 5: been kind of you know, center guards have had some

850
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 5: issues and that's why it'll be interest to see I

851
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 5: bet you in this ballgame against Tennessee. Greg Rowman, I

852
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,919
Speaker 5: wouldn't be surprised if he kind of moves Herbert around

853
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 5: a little bit and not let not let those two

854
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 5: defensive tackles just completely wreck a ball game.

855
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 3: If the twenty twenty four Los Angeles Chargers are really

856
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 3: going to make a run down the stretch and then

857
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 3: make some noise in January, what needs to happen.

858
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 5: Well, health is the obvious one, right, you know, if

859
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 5: you get Joey Bosa back to being one hundred percent,

860
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 5: that would be a big part of it. That takes

861
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 5: a defense to another level. But I think that the

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Speaker 5: I mean, he's he is playing at a very high

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Speaker 5: if you can get McConkie just keeps getting better. Quentin

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Speaker 5: Johnson's coming off one hundred yard game, maybe he's getting

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