1 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff Mom Never Told You from how stupp 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: works dot com. Hello, and welcome to the podcast. I'm 3 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: Kristen and I'm Caroline And after eight hundred thirty three 4 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: episodes of this dangle podcast, I'm out, so am I 5 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: Hello and goodbye listeners. Yeah, hello, welcome to our final 6 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: episode of Both and All Time. I guess yeah, you guess? 7 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's mine, not guess. Yeah, No, we 8 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: ain't coming back and I love that are sprightly. Intro 9 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: music is playing right now. Um as we are perhaps 10 00:00:55,240 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: shocking so listeners, but you know, what was a dumpster 11 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: fire of a year. I think we can all agree 12 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: on that. So so if it's a sad news for you, 13 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: just throw it in the dumpster, you know, light it 14 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: on fire, walk away, sassily into your future, where you 15 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: will take what you have learned on this podcast, the 16 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: things that have inspired you, and you will be a 17 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: better human. And hopefully you know that that that sassy 18 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: walk off will maybe keep us in mind. You know, 19 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: we are on the internet as people not associated with 20 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: stuff Mom Never told you. Yeah, I mean, you can 21 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 1: talk to me all day long on Twitter. I'm at 22 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: the Caroline erv. I'm also over on Instagram at the 23 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: caro erv Apparently I never spell out my very short 24 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: last name. Well, who needs it. I'm all about unnecessary 25 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: abrevs erv earth totally um Chuck of stuff. You should 26 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: no name drop. Yeah, don't you love Chuck. Chuck calls 27 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,239 Speaker 1: me Congs, which I appreciate, and he's the only one 28 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: who a Brev's my last name, and it's it's so 29 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 1: perfectly it's so perfectly chuck. Um. But I have myself 30 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 1: have not adopted congs. Yeah no, I don't think I've 31 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: heard you introduce yourself that way. Okay, but I told 32 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: the people about my Twitter. I also have Caroline Irvin 33 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: dot co is is my website, which is really just 34 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: like pictures and not much else. But you can't submit 35 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: a query to me through my website if for some 36 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: reason you can't talk to me on Twitter. You're making 37 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 1: that site real enticing that traffic is just through the roof. Well, 38 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: I haven't gone back to actually put much on it, 39 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: but it's better than what my test site was years ago. 40 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: I talked about thought this on the podcast before. It 41 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: was just like a purple background with a picture of 42 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: a corgy and a tie. I say, bring that back. 43 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: I don't know what happened to that corgy. I meanwhile, 44 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: um all over the internet as well. If you search 45 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: Kristen Conger c R I S T E N there's 46 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: only one of me, Thank goodness. Yeah there's a there's 47 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: another Caroline Irvan. She's like a she's a landscape architect. 48 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: That's not me. I do love yard work. I got 49 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: a leafblower for my birthday and I love some yardwork. 50 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: But that is not me. Google results show down you 51 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: got you gotta get that s c O girl snagg it. Um. 52 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: I similarly am on Twitter, also on Instagram, both at 53 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: Kristen Conger. I'm also on Snapchat. Oh god, I am too, 54 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: but I don't know how to use it. We're old, 55 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: we are old, um, I said, I know how to 56 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: use it. Uh snap snap some big from time to 57 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: time to sit it out to the kids. Uh. I 58 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: am planning to start doing some more character work on Snapchat. 59 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: I've got a got a gal in the wings snap 60 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: Cath she's you know she uh, she's going through some things, 61 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: but she'll she's there to tell you about it. Um, 62 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: So head on over to my snapchat if you want 63 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: to see some of my wig collection. Um. Yeah, we 64 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: we are easily found across the internet. Um. We also 65 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 1: have very exciting things in the works. Um for not 66 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: I mean really really really, I feel like I genuinely 67 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: I couldn't think of a better time to step away 68 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: from this beloved show, which I am prouder of than 69 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: anything I've ever done in my life. Um, and this, though, 70 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: is the time to step away and step out really 71 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: and step up, because that's a step aerobics going on. Yeah, 72 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: basically I'm starting a jazz recize studio. So we're trying 73 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: to tell you. Uh no, it's I mean sixteen Uh 74 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: just revealed in so many ways, so much work that 75 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: needs to be done, and I think it reprioritized a 76 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: lot of people's lives and made them reconsider uh where 77 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: they are investing themselves and where all of that leads 78 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 1: what it's actually supporting. And I'm really excited, uh not 79 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: to be leaving our wonderful how stuff works colleagues, Um, 80 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: because they are just just the jewels of the earth. 81 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: They're the eighth wonder of the world, I tell you, Um, 82 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: But I am really excited about becoming an independent media 83 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: maker because in this time, uh, I want to put 84 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 1: my money where my mouth is. I want to talk 85 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: my walk, and and that is part of it, right, 86 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: And being your own boss is certainly putting your it's 87 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: it's what did you say, walking your talk? Yeah, putting 88 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: your money where your shoes are? Yeah, or just like uh, 89 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: just playing hide and seek with money because now now 90 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: I gotta go Now, I gotta go find it. Uh. 91 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: If anyone wants to hire me, I am so talented. Yeah, no, 92 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: there was. You said something in our last episode about 93 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: a bucket of duckets, So we need to find that 94 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: bucket of duckets at the end of the activist Rainbow, right, right, 95 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 1: But before we go any further, we cannot underestimate what 96 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 1: a tremendous opportunity How Stuff Works has given us. Um 97 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,559 Speaker 1: I was but a scrappy twenty three year old when 98 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 1: a former staff writer fellow staff writer House Stuff Works, 99 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 1: Molly Edmonds y'all remember Molly from the old days, Uh, 100 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: came up with this cockamamie idea, Yeah, to do a 101 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: show about women and gender. And I tell you what, 102 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: it was a tough pitch. It was a tough pitch. 103 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: At the time, women were way more niche than they 104 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: are today. Uh, but they let us do it and 105 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: I could not be more grateful for that opportunity. Um. So, y'all, 106 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: how Stuff Works is is not flushing us down the 107 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: toilet like a tampon, which you're not supposed to do. Um. 108 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: They have plans as well. Yeah, we actually have a 109 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: statement here from How Stuff Works. How Stuff Works will 110 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: continue to invest in women focus shows inspired by the 111 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: voices of Sminty. Thanks for your support, and look for 112 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: much more from How Stuff Works in and I can 113 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: only assume that the phrase voices of Sminty also encompasses 114 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: all of my accents for sure that have been very 115 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: polarizing over the years. They really have been people. People 116 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: will literally will they will write us a letter about 117 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: something else, and at the end they will put in like, 118 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: by the way, I love your voices, they're my favorite 119 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: thing about it. Or on the other end of the spectrum, 120 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: I wish you would just use your adult voice. Oh yeah, 121 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: so it's terribly obnoxious, I'm sure. Um. Also, we have 122 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: to before we go any farther, thank everybody listening to 123 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: this podcast, because How Stuff Works gave us a platform. Yes, 124 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: but you all helped us find our voice, and you 125 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: all have inspired us and guided us and kept us 126 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: going in so many ways that you have no idea. 127 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: Behind the scenes. Um, there have been many times over 128 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: the years when it's been just grueling, you know, whether 129 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: it's a lot of work to do or work piled 130 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: on life, And just when you feel like that your 131 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: rope is gonna snap, we we get an amazing email 132 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 1: from you all or letters. You guys have been great 133 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: about sending us cards, postcards, letters. A listener named Lisa 134 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: recently sent us a Lisa Frank calendar and it's an 135 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: eighteen month calendar. Yeah, eighteen months of Lisa Frank. So 136 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 1: that means you and I can split and both appropriately 137 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: have nine months, which is a fitting a fitting calendar 138 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: for the host of the show stuff mom never told 139 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: you which y'all, if we could just share all of 140 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: the PR emails we have received over the years, assuming 141 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: that we need we need experts on like baby formula 142 00:09:55,000 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: and diapers. Um, yeah, I a this with a smile 143 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: and lovingly, but PR folks out there, I gotta tell you, like, 144 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: if you don't actually listen to the show or or 145 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: read the show's description, um, you're probably not going to 146 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: make a successful pitch to its hosts. Also, though to 147 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: their defense, our handle is mom stuff, which does suggest 148 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: it's misleading that we talk about stuff relevant to moms 149 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: and our probably moms ourselves. We have a lot of 150 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: awesome moms in our audience, though, yeah, we do. I 151 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 1: gotta tell you, I'm always so heartened by our community 152 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: of moms on our Facebook page as well, because you 153 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: don't have to be a parent to know that parenting. Plus, 154 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: the Internet can get really dicey, really fast, because there 155 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: are a lot of opinions and no one wants to 156 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 1: be wrong about how they raise their children. And of 157 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: course there have been arguments that have happened on our 158 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: Facebook page, but we have such by and large, a 159 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 1: respectful group of moms and parents and also um women 160 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: and parents who don't shade us for talking about uh 161 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: pregnancy related topics or um children, babies, family saying you 162 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: know you child free and incompoops, know what you're talking about. 163 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: That's my license plate, my vanity plate. It's so long, 164 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: it's like one of those European style So, since this 165 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 1: is the goodbye episode, should we look back at where 166 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: we started? Yes? Okay, well you have to tell the 167 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: people though, because we do have we are blessed hashtag 168 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: blessed with a lot of new listeners this year. Um, 169 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: so we can keep that out of the dumpster fire. 170 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: We can appreciate that. Oh yeah, none, none of you 171 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: all are in the dumpto fire. No, we're not putting 172 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: none of you are going in the dump show. But 173 00:11:56,000 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: nobody puts baby at the dumpster fire, that's for sure. Correct. 174 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: But tell the people how Simonti originated. I mean you 175 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: already told him that How Stuff Works gave you this platform. Sure, 176 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: but what was your first episode with Molly? Okay, so 177 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: the very first published episode stuff Mom never told you 178 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: was do men and women have different brains? Controversial? But 179 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: it was based off in existing How stuff Works article, 180 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: um and and and that was sort of the original 181 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: idea was to comb through the treasure trove of how 182 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: stuff Works articles that Molly and I and other staff 183 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: writers such as Josh and Chuck of Stuff you should 184 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: Know Fame were writing at the time, and for for 185 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: this show, we were like, hey, we don't dedicate a 186 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: lot of content to use digital media speak two women specifically, 187 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: so what if we take an article and zero in 188 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: on on where women would factor into that. Well, we 189 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: quickly ran out of existing article, um, so we started 190 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: to come up with our own fresh ideas, which again 191 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: that was a big risk for the company to take 192 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 1: because they were and I mean this lovingly, they were 193 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: really letting us off a leash. Um. And before that, though, 194 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 1: there was an audition process. Yes, this was just how 195 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: man way back in the day and how stuff works 196 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: when podcasts were really but a glimmer in so many 197 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: of our eyes. Uh. In order to launch of podcast, 198 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: you first had to record a test episode, and y'all, 199 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: we had no idea what we were doing. Um. Molly 200 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: and I went in and Josh of s Y s 201 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:54,439 Speaker 1: K and Jonathan Strickland, host of tech Stuff, were our 202 00:13:54,800 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: judges essentially, and we scripted it. We read a podcast 203 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: scriptum about male birth control and Caroline, I just so happened. 204 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 1: Do you have that script in front of me? Okay, 205 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: let's hear some of it and I read some of 206 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 1: the lines. Um. Also, we were trying to make these 207 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: very short, so I think this was the whole episode, um, 208 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: and it probably lasted all of five minutes, thank goodness, 209 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: because the some of these lines that I wrote just 210 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: really did not age well. So stuff mom never told 211 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: you a dramatic reading. Stuff Mom didn't tell you interesting 212 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: information from your female friends at how stuff works dot com. 213 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: Let's jump right into something that's awkward to discuss with 214 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: your mom. Ejaculation. Did you know that there are one 215 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: twenty million sperm that come out with each ejaculation? Holy cow, 216 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: I'm frightened. That's more than three times the population of California. 217 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: What are you gonna do? Well? You know I can 218 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: pick from the pill of the patch, the injection, diaphragm, etcetera. 219 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: That could be a lot of work. Sometimes I pick 220 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: up some condoms, but guys don't love it. I assume 221 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: that was scripted as back and forth between you and 222 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: Molly and not just you having some sort of like 223 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: insane conversation. I wish it was just a horrifying monologue 224 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: of me, now, Caroline, I won't. I will not put 225 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: you and our listeners through through the rest of this script, because, 226 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: as you can tell, it is not of the highest quality. UM. Also, 227 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: podcast scripts, y'all buy or beware. UM. But I did 228 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: have to laugh at the closer that I do remember 229 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: writing and being like, oh yeah, that's good, and this 230 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: is a reference again to the number of sperm in 231 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: uh the average ejaculate here it is, well, it sounds 232 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: like we have one million reasons to not throw away 233 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: birth control because male birth control might be a pipe dream. 234 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: That's what she said. Oh god, yeah, and then we 235 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: could just hear the slow class. I'm surprised we got 236 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: a podcast. Now I can see now, I can see 237 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: maybe why why it took a second for for this 238 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: show to get off the ground, and it evolved. Yes, 239 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: thank goodness, thank goodness, things have evolved, and even like 240 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: things have evolved with you and me. I mean, we 241 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: started off with twenty minute shows basically because I was 242 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: not a full time employee at How Stuff Works. I 243 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: was a contractor, so I would literally have to scurry 244 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: across the street from my nightmare job with a terrible boss. 245 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: I have alluded to many times on this show. I 246 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: would have to scurry across the street. Thank thankfully, we 247 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 1: were in buildings that were across the street from each 248 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: other to record one episode at a time in in 249 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 1: like twenty minutes tops. And so it is kind of 250 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: funny to like, look at our notes now for episodes, 251 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: which can crest five pages and then look back at 252 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: those notes from when I started that are maybe a 253 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: page and a half or two pages. Which do you prefer? 254 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 1: Because sometimes I look back at those old notes and 255 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 1: I think, oh, the salad days. Yeah, well I don't neither. 256 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: I mean, in some respects both. Um. I like that 257 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 1: we were super efficient back in the day because we 258 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 1: had to be, we had no choice. But sometimes I 259 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: look back at those notes and I'm like, I have 260 00:17:56,119 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: no idea what this number is referenced ing. I feel 261 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 1: like I don't have enough here to like, have a 262 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 1: juicy conversation. Um. Yeah, Kristen just made a face. I 263 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: don't like the word juicy. I'm just gonna say it. Um, girl, 264 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 1: this is the time to say whatever you need to say. 265 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: But uh yeah. And what I do like, I like 266 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: fleshed out notes. You like juicy flesh. I like I 267 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: like juicy fleshed out notes. Um, when they are not 268 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: trying to literally cover every angle of something. A trap 269 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: that Kristen and I have fallen into more than we 270 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: can count is trying is being so fascinated by a 271 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 1: topic and so excited about something that we want to 272 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: know every angle of it and share every angle of it. 273 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 1: And we also set a super high bar for ourselves 274 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: because also our listeners hold us accountable for sure. Yeah, 275 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: so we do it because of personal interests, yes, but 276 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 1: also because we want to make sure that we're giving 277 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: a three sixty view of a topic. But of course, second, 278 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 1: I can just get out of hands sometimes, y'all. You 279 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: might have noticed if if you've been listening to us 280 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,959 Speaker 1: for a while, episodes have gotten longer and longer. I 281 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: know our dear producer Nolf's probably noticed. But I also 282 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: had to go through a bit of an audition process 283 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: to land on Smith Tea back in the summer of 284 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: and that process was recording an episode with you, and 285 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: that was an episode about rebound relationships, and that was 286 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: fun and I so clearly remember it, and you know, 287 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:37,959 Speaker 1: full circle, We've come full circle because the rebound that 288 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: I discussed in that episode is now my boyfriend. No way. Yeah. 289 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: So in in that very first episode that we published, 290 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: we talked about, or I talked about, you know, this 291 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: guy who had just gotten out of a relationship and 292 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: he wanted to date me, and I was like, no way, buddy, 293 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 1: you're on the rebound. You're not mentally healthy enough to 294 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: do this. Pot mess. I know, like I was talking 295 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 1: at the time like I was some like highly evolved 296 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: specimen of human and we all know that's not the truth. Um. Yeah, 297 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: Well we reunited two and a half years ago now 298 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 1: and he's my boyfriend. Dog. Also, I've I've grown up 299 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: with a show in so many ways. I mean, thinking 300 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: about myself now at thirty two compared to myself back 301 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: then at twenty three, oh man, from the fashion choices 302 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: to the I don't want to say boyfriend because yeah, 303 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: I was never really good at like actually like getting 304 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 1: a man to date me. Um, but but my my 305 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 1: crush choices, uh two. I mean also just the education 306 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 1: for sure that Sminty has afforded us, um in terms 307 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: of women's history and feminism and intersectionality and just being 308 00:20:55,280 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: so much more aware of systems around us, lived experiences 309 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: that we wouldn't otherwise, um be clued into. I'm so 310 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: grateful for being able to co research topics with you 311 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 1: like this, like the topics we've covered, and be able 312 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: to talk to you about it, and also to be 313 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: able to hear from again. Y'all know we keep talking 314 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: about you, but at least half of that learning experience 315 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 1: is because of you all. You all send us the 316 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: most in depth experiences and questions and corrections and resources 317 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 1: and ideas, and this show has been as much about 318 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 1: you as it has been about us. And honestly, we 319 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 1: brag about you all so often. And I know that 320 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: makes us sound like weird pseudo parents. Um. This is 321 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: not our hysterical wombs talking um. But you know, when 322 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 1: we're doing our podcast business, that's business with a z uh. 323 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,719 Speaker 1: We always brag about what a wonderful audience we have 324 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: because it is expected that if you put yourself out 325 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: on the internet, you're mostly gonna get a lot of 326 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: horrible things if especially if you're a woman. And Stuff 327 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: I've Never told You has been such an exception to 328 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: that rule in a lot of ways. It really has 329 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 1: our email inboxes, our Twitter, it's all like the coolest 330 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: safe space. And we also want this goodbye to stuff 331 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: Mom never told you to be a positive one, because 332 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: we aren't looking back and weeping, but rather we're looking forward. 333 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 1: And I don't know about you, Caroline, but I I'm pumped. 334 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: I gotta answer my pants. I'm ready to go well, 335 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: as do so many of our listeners have ants in 336 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 1: their pants. I realized the sinten x was weird as 337 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: you kept talking and my mouth was already moving. Um. 338 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: But yeah, let's uh, can we play some voice memos 339 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: from some listeners. Yeah, so these are some of your 340 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 1: wish lists for Yeah, so let's play one a brief 341 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 1: one that we got from Sam. Hi Sminty. My name 342 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 1: is Sam Theed and for two thousand and seventeen. I 343 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: think that what I want most is, um, more open 344 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:34,239 Speaker 1: mindeds as a nation, more sustainable harvest practices for our 345 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: natural resources. I want, of course for myself the American 346 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: dream of being able to afford a home and have 347 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 1: a job that I can afford that home with. And 348 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: of course I would love more Sminty podcasts. Love you 349 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 1: guys and all that you do. Thanks for sticking out 350 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: there for us nasty women. Happy two thousand seventeen. And okay, 351 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 1: so Katrina sent us a really long, incredibly detailed voice 352 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 1: memo talking about her goals and wishes and hopes. And Katrina, 353 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,959 Speaker 1: we can't play your whole memo, but here is an 354 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 1: impressive little snippet. I have a lot of privilege in 355 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: my life, Um, but I've I've also been able to 356 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: see the lack of privilege that others have. Half of 357 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 1: my cousins are not white. For starters, UM, and being 358 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: by has put me in the LGBT community. I have 359 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: trans friends, and while I may never fully understand the 360 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: day to day UH struggles, I guess the day to 361 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,479 Speaker 1: day issues that come about of that come from not 362 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: having that kind of privilege that I have. I don't 363 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: understand in a visceral sense, but I do definitely try 364 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: to understand it as best I can. And I have 365 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: been very lazy when it comes to fighting for my 366 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 1: friends and my family. I don't have a lot of money. 367 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: I'm just a hair's breadth above the poverty line, so 368 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: I'm I'm struggling to make ends meet, and a lot 369 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: of times it feels like the only way to help 370 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,199 Speaker 1: is to put your money with where your mouth is, 371 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: and I just don't have that money to put don't 372 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: got it, um. One of the first things I'm gonna 373 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: do going into the new year is I'm going to 374 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: move my banking from a larger bank to a credit union, 375 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,439 Speaker 1: because when we start talking as a larger group in 376 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 1: the in our country about political figures who you know 377 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: are being kept in the pocket of big business and whatnot. 378 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: Oftentimes those big banks are part of that problem. So 379 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 1: I will do what I can to keep my money 380 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: out of their hands. It's not a lot, but it's 381 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: a thing that I can do. These are things that 382 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: I can do, And I have a big old list 383 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: of things that I can do or think about, and 384 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: I can commit to going through those lists once a 385 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 1: month and seeing if there's anything new I can add. 386 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: I can commit to continuing to donate blood every eight weeks. 387 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: I can commit to looking for a place to volunteer 388 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: that works with my weird schedules and Tammy listener Tammy 389 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: had a different take on ten. She's got some other 390 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: goals for the new year. Things I would like to 391 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 1: see in twenty seventeen is not only more awareness of 392 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:42,439 Speaker 1: chronic pain and chronic illness, but for people actually to 393 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: have sources and fundraisers and places they can donate money 394 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: and do actual research. I and many people, and many 395 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 1: millions of people in this country and around the world 396 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: suffer from severe, debilitating chronic illness and chronic pain, and 397 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: we need to be part of the conversation. Disability needs 398 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: to be included in all intersectionality conversations. We need to 399 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: mention disability when talking about the black and brown civilians 400 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: being killed by the cops. And we need to continue 401 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 1: free speech, free press, open more independent bookstores, get rid 402 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:41,360 Speaker 1: of the electoral college, somehow keep it classy the way 403 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 1: Obama always have has. And we need to keep up 404 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: the spirit and keep up the fight, and follow Bernie 405 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,479 Speaker 1: and Hillary in their footsteps and follow their examples, and 406 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: that they're just not giving up for what is right. 407 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 1: And here's listener Catherine with her seventeen wish list, which 408 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 1: ends on a pretty fabulous note. I Smith, my name 409 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: is Catherine. I'm from Quebec and Canada, and here are 410 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 1: my wishes for two thousand seventeen UM. The first one 411 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: is that each of us learned the capacity of acting 412 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: with humility and taking care of each other as an 413 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: act of radical softness. I also wish that those in 414 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: power listened to the population with open art and use 415 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: their power to make the world a better place. And finally, 416 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: my classic wish is the complete abolition of imperialist white supremacists, 417 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: capitalist at tero patriarchy. We can do it. Rebecca sent 418 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: us a great brief little memo too, for her seventeen 419 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: wish list. My wish for seventeen is that we maintain 420 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: our endurance. I hope that we go into the new 421 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: year with big hearts and open minds, that we keep 422 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: having the conversations that matter and say the things that 423 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: just need to be said. Um, the world can seem 424 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: a little overwhelming, especially now, but big changes happen every 425 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: day when we make big decisions about how we'll lead 426 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: our lives every day. I wish that for all of us. 427 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: And closing out the fabulous listener Voice memos that we 428 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: received talking about your hopes for the future, we have Claire, 429 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: So one of my major wishes is that we see 430 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: a wide variety of female creators in everything from TV, books, film, art, 431 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: in museums and journalism, and that we really celebrate and 432 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: amplify a wide variety of voices. And on my challenges 433 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: list for toy seventeen, for myself, I want to really 434 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: get out into the community, get on the ground and 435 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: do the work for the causes that I have supported 436 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: online for a long time, things like reproductive rights, lgbtq 437 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: it's and the environment, and so really go out and 438 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: help these causes on the ground and on a more 439 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: personal level, One of my challenges is to talk to 440 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: my conservative family and friends and about these issues that 441 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: I care so much about and really try to get 442 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: them to empathize with the other side and maybe not 443 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: change their mind, but at least help them see where 444 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: we're coming from and why these issues are so important 445 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: to us. So those are my wishes and challenges, which 446 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: my seventeen. So Caroline, what's your wish list for Oh boy? 447 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: My wish list is that we take more of our 448 00:30:54,960 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: activism off not off of Twitter, but of it and 449 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: translate it into real action, whatever that means for you. 450 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: That we see an up surge in angry nasty women, um, 451 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: actually getting their boots on the ground and getting involved 452 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: with the things they believed in believe in, whether that's 453 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: reproductive rights, uh, the dismantling of racist and heteronormative, patriarchal 454 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 1: systemic awful structures, you know, just really the basics. Yeah, 455 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: um I I My wish list for sen also involves 456 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:41,959 Speaker 1: the um activism of nasty men to nasty gender nonconforming people, 457 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: just just a nasty nation outfare um. And it's so 458 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: broad brush, but I feel like if I were to 459 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: itemize everything that goes under this it would take forever. 460 00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: But my number one wish for and really the next 461 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: four years is the preservation of civil liberties UM and 462 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:14,959 Speaker 1: also the protection of reproductive rights UM and us collectively 463 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: being more politically active on a local level level than 464 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,959 Speaker 1: ever before. I've um called my state and local reps 465 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: for the first time, and y'all, I'm not a phone person. 466 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: I was, Honestly, I was scared to answer the phone 467 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: until I was like twelve years old, and I'm still 468 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: kind of phone shy, especially when I'm calling someplace like 469 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: cold calling and i don't really know what I'm doing. Yeah, 470 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: I called one of my senators the wrong name when 471 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 1: I was speaking with his staff member. I'm sure that 472 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: made me look real good. But it doesn't matter, because 473 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: it's just the more you do it, the less scary 474 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: it is. And if I can do it, if, if 475 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 1: if phone phobic me can do it, um, every one 476 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: else can. And so there is that upshot to the 477 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: post election atmosphere where a lot of people are fired 478 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: up to truly start making some change and really start 479 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: learning about the systems around us in the way that 480 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: we can contribute to it. UM. So that's my big 481 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: hope for the world. Personally, my seven wish list is 482 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 1: the successful manuscript writing of our upcoming book, Unladylike, a 483 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: field guide to Smashing the patriarchy and claiming your space. Yeah, 484 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,719 Speaker 1: that's right. If you follow us on Facebook, you might 485 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: have caught that announcement if you literally only listen to 486 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: us and don't follow us in any other realm. Hey, 487 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,959 Speaker 1: we're writing a book. We are writing a book, and uh, 488 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: hopefully you have subscribed to the Unladylike newsletter because just 489 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: like the podcast has been such a two way street, 490 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: we want to hear from you in terms of what 491 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna put and who we're going to highlight in 492 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: this book that we're super excited about, So you can 493 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 1: head over to Unladylike dot co and subscribe over there. 494 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,879 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just gonna be an unladylike kind of year. 495 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 1: I mean, really, I cannot emphasize enough how excited I 496 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:26,800 Speaker 1: am to get real unladylike. I would say that, you know, 497 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 1: I would just be like, I just want to be 498 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: stay nasty in um, but really I want to be 499 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: a nasty woman making some real unladylike kind of media, 500 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: you know, I think that sounds great, and I hope 501 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: you guys think that that sounds great, because we want 502 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: you to enjoy it. We want to continue to have 503 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: a relationship with you where we it's a two way 504 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 1: street in terms of the inspiration, it's a it's a 505 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: it's even you know, a complicated highway with overpasses, an underpass. 506 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: Perhaps it's some sort of traffic circle where the inspiration 507 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: and good feels never stop. And I approach it with 508 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,879 Speaker 1: a bit of panic because I then realized, oh god, 509 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,919 Speaker 1: I don't know what to do with a traffic circle. Yeah, 510 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: we are American, we have far fewer of them. Did 511 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 1: you know that France has the mess traffic circles of 512 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 1: any country in the world. I did not know that. Yeah. 513 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: I'm also an editor for how Stuff Works dot com, 514 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:20,839 Speaker 1: so my brain is full of Rando's stuff. But thankfully, 515 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: speaking of France, okay, how about that transition. Thankfully, we 516 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: have so many international listeners who have also been so kind, 517 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 1: especially to us post election. Thank you for all of 518 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 1: your condolences that you've sent us. Um but our international 519 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 1: listeners help us, you know, through the roundabouts. Thank goodness, 520 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 1: life's roundabouts, or if you're a Michigan or y'all have 521 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 1: those strange who's it's and turnarounds on you know what 522 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: I'm talking about. It's like a you call it like 523 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: a one armed left or something like that. I forget 524 00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 1: what it's called. And somebody we got to shout out 525 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 1: out regarding our book is our beloved illustrator and all 526 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 1: around nasty woman, Tyler Feeder. Yes, so we reached out 527 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 1: to Tyler because we loved her work. She is an 528 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 1: incredible illustrator. She clearly has so much freaking heart. Let's 529 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,439 Speaker 1: tell them some examples of what she's done. Well. So, yeah, 530 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 1: in the wake of the election, um, you know, we 531 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: couldn't really we could barely get out of bed, and 532 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: the three of us were chatting with our agent, our 533 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: book agent, on Slack because we're cool business women. I 534 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 1: was wearing shoulder pads certainly, and uh what, yeah for sure, 535 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 1: I mean your your bedtime shoulder pads. Yes, my my 536 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,399 Speaker 1: shoulder pad. M yeah, And we were kind of talking 537 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 1: to each other about like, oh, well, thank god we're 538 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,320 Speaker 1: doing this project, like this is going to keep us going. 539 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 1: And that day, Tyler, in the spirit of supporting women, 540 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: lawn each a project on Instagram. She used the hashtag 541 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: draw me Tyler with the goal of drawing these beautiful 542 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 1: illustrations of marginalized women, women of color, trans women, women 543 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:19,240 Speaker 1: living with disabilities, a range of beautiful and amazing activists. 544 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 1: And she ended up getting a lot of attention for 545 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 1: it and it was well deserved. Absolutely, And um, you 546 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: may have seen her peace intersectional Rosie the Riveter floating 547 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 1: around on Tumbler especially. I think that's the first place 548 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 1: that I saw it. Um. And you can now see 549 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,839 Speaker 1: some of her stuff on feminist apparel as well. UM. 550 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,840 Speaker 1: But we are just so so so so excited to 551 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 1: be working with her, and we're really excited for you 552 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 1: all to discover her work if you haven't already. Um, 553 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 1: she's roaring softly. That's roar as in our o a 554 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 1: R like a lion. Um roaring softly on Twitter and Instagram. 555 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 1: So check her stuff out and get excited. Um. She 556 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 1: has drawn um for our book proposal and ladylike Um 557 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: she's drawn some fabulous body hair on some some naked women. 558 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 1: So if that's not if that's not a tease to 559 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,880 Speaker 1: get excited about our book, then I don't know what 560 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 1: it is. UM. But We've got a lot to do, Caroline. UM, 561 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 1: we are certainly not stepping out of the studio after 562 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:36,359 Speaker 1: we finished recording this and taking a vacation. It's about 563 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 1: to ramp up, and we so hope that will continue 564 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 1: hearing from you and seeing you. Um, if you want 565 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 1: to email me directly, you can do that at Kristen 566 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 1: c R I S T E N. It's commonly misspelled. 567 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 1: Even my phone auto correct sit to add an H 568 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 1: to me. I know I could probably fix it, I 569 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,879 Speaker 1: just don't. Um. You can email me at Kristen at 570 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 1: unladylike dot co. I'm Caroline at unladylike dot co. And 571 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,400 Speaker 1: again if you want to sign up for our little 572 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 1: newsletter to keep abreast of our Uh. But I have 573 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 1: such a I am a child. I just laughed at 574 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 1: abreast what a farewell? Um, the same abreast of all 575 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 1: the stuff that we're gonna be doing. Places we're gonna 576 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 1: hopefully be going faces, we're gonna be seeing words that 577 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna be speaking. It's like so specific but so vague, right, UM, 578 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 1: so head over to unladylike dot co. Also, I just 579 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,319 Speaker 1: think it's sort of a neat looking webs website. Uh, 580 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 1: thank you Squarespace. You didn't sponsor us, but you sponsored 581 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,840 Speaker 1: this podcast in the past, and so I used the 582 00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,319 Speaker 1: mom Stuff promo code to get ten percent off our 583 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 1: Squarespace site. UM, so that so that was a real boon. So, listeners, 584 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 1: I cannot thank you enough for helping me become the 585 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:14,799 Speaker 1: person that I am today. And I mean that sincerely. 586 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 1: And when I say that I love you, I also 587 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 1: mean it from the bottom of my heart. And this 588 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 1: group of listeners that we interact with, and even if 589 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 1: you're just a sminty lerker, um, you have given me 590 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 1: hope for and beyond. You've given me hope that all 591 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 1: is not lost. This is not the end of the world. 592 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,879 Speaker 1: As big of a dumpster fire as this past year 593 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 1: has been, as many amazing people as we have lost, 594 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:47,280 Speaker 1: as many threats to our rights that we have faced, 595 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 1: as much oppression as we have waded through. UM, I 596 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 1: know that you're out there and that you're nasty and 597 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 1: you're determined and you're driven and your vocal, and so 598 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 1: thank you for giveing me so much hope and making 599 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 1: me feel like I'm really a part of something incredible. 600 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:10,279 Speaker 1: And that's not just the Sminty community. That's really just 601 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 1: a community of amazing humans out there, and so please 602 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,959 Speaker 1: keep in touch, please let us know that you're still 603 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,239 Speaker 1: out there, because we still want to talk to you 604 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,360 Speaker 1: and with you, um and we hope that you follow 605 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 1: us along on our future adventures. So again, thank you, 606 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 1: we love you, We wish you the very best New 607 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 1: Year possible. And this isn't goodbye, but rather see you 608 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:43,719 Speaker 1: all later. Yeah, peace out for now. For more on 609 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,240 Speaker 1: this and thousands of other topics, is it how stuff 610 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 1: works dot com