1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 1: Canf I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobelt podcast on the iHeartRadio apps. 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 3: Mark Thompson here, have all the coal belt kids in 4 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 3: tow Deborah, Mark is here, Eric is here, Rock and Roll, 5 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 3: Ray and Angel watching all things traffic related. Big news 6 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 3: out of the Justice Department. There's big news out of Iran. 7 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 3: There's big news around the world of the Trump cabinet. 8 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 3: There's big news here in southern California, and all of 9 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 3: the big news, all of it will be covered today. 10 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 3: We're going to start in Washington because we've got a 11 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 3: minute with Royal Oaks, who is so brilliant on legal matters, 12 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 3: because the Justice Department has just published documents with sexual 13 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 3: assault allegations against the president and these are pretty ugly. 14 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 3: I'll get into some of the details with Royal Hi. 15 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 4: Royal Oaks, Hey, how you doing. 16 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: You must have a very We're definition and brilliant, but 17 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: thank you. Anyway, you know this is provocative, Mark, I mean, 18 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: obviously these allegations have been horrific for decades now. What 19 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 1: happened is that about seven years ago, the FBI interviewed 20 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: a woman who said that back when she was thirteen 21 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 1: fourteen or fifteen. It's a little vague. She had an 22 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: encounter with Donald Trump. We don't have any details. We 23 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: don't know what this involved. But you know, that alone 24 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: is enough to get people thinking. But the deal is, 25 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: these documents were just produced today, about a thousand pages, 26 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 1: and the DJ has some explain them to do Mark 27 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: because these interview reports were actually withheld months ago, and 28 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: the DOJ says, oh, sorry, we mistakenly thought that they 29 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: were duplicative a few months ago, so we didn't produce them. 30 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: Then now we realize that we didn't produce them at all, 31 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: and so here they are. But the allegations are totally uncorroborated, 32 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: and there are some huge credibility gaps in the allegation. 33 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: But nonetheless, of course it's not good news for Donald Trump. 34 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting. 35 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 3: Just first, before I get into these specific allegations, it 36 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 3: would appear and they kind of mentioned the White House 37 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 3: does or the you know, the official government position is, 38 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 3: you know, these are totally baseless. These accusations also supported 39 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 3: by the Abbey's fact that Joe Biden's Department or Justice 40 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 3: knew about them for four years did nothing with them 41 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:26,119 Speaker 3: because they knew President Trump did absolutely nothing wrong, as 42 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 3: we have said countless times. 43 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 4: So true, maybe or maybe the Biden. 44 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 3: Justice Department was in a sense of following the script 45 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 3: that many suggest the Epstein filescript has followed, which is 46 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 3: everybody's covering for everybody else. I don't know if there's 47 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 3: any How do you rate the weight of that, the 48 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 3: fact that Biden had it and did nothing with these allegations. 49 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, to me, that's a pretty powerful thing for Donald Trump. 50 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: I mean, we know how little love there was between 51 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: the Biden folks and the Trump folks. And the fact 52 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: that the Biden Department of Justice, as you say, investigated 53 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 1: these specific claims, had them on their desk for four years, 54 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: and did zippo. That seems like a pretty strong fact 55 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: for Donald Trump. But there's more. For example, the timeline 56 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: this young woman described was before Epstein and Trump had 57 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: any social connection whatsoever, and yet she alleges that she 58 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: was introduced to Trump by Epstein. So that's the problem. 59 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: The second problem is that she claims some incidents occurred 60 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: in South Carolina, and nobody's made any allegations that Epstein 61 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: was doing anything wrong or ever set foot in South Carolina. 62 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: Plus she was interviewed four times, and she was asked 63 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: for details, and she couldn't give any additional details in 64 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: any subsequent interviews. And of course there's no corroboration, no 65 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: friends coming forward and saying, oh yeah, she tearfully when 66 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: she was fourteen or fifteen, this happened obviously, No documents, 67 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: no photography. So is it a big problem for Donald 68 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: Trump if nothing more comes out beyond this? Probably not. 69 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: But this is market's so weird. I mean, we heard 70 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: recently somebody said, you know, about one percent of the 71 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: Epstein documents have been produced, one percent after decades. How 72 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: can this be? But you know, the redaction challenge is 73 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: a big one. You've got millions of documents, and human 74 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: beings have to put their eyes on the documents and 75 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: make sure we're not releasing any more names of alleged victims. 76 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: We're not doing anything that would compromise ongoing investigations. So 77 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: this is just going to be more drip, drip drip 78 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 1: in terms of the story. It just won't go. 79 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 3: Away well on the ongoing investigation part. The head of 80 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 3: the Justice Department, Pam Bondi, says, you know, it's called 81 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 3: sort of case closed. So I feel like that's sort 82 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 3: of thinner and thinner ice that they're on. But as 83 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 3: you say, the redactions have been it would seem tactical 84 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 3: and strategic. And in the redactions, of course, we've seen 85 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 3: very powerful people, lawyer's names and politicians' names redacted, while 86 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 3: we've seen victims' names, and you kind of alluded to 87 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 3: this in your answer, sort of accidentally in air quotes 88 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 3: released and then the documents pulled back, then those redactions happen. 89 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:18,799 Speaker 3: So it's been a bit deliberately chaotic, maybe, I would say. 90 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 3: And the one thing I would say here and ask 91 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 3: you about Royal Oaks is the way in which there 92 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 3: were multiple FBI interviews with this woman, so she was 93 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 3: not discounted completely by investigators who were looking into all 94 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 3: of this. 95 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: No, you're right, and that's a really important point. I mean, 96 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: not everybody gets interviewed four times during this timeframe of 97 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: July and October twenty nineteen, and so that suggests that 98 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: they thought they were on to something. And also, as 99 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: you say, this is not a good look. I mean, 100 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 1: for specific interviews about Donald Trump and a thirteen to 101 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: fifteen year old for his Trump's Department of Justice to 102 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: not produce them before, the idea being oh, we thought 103 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: that they had earlier been produced, and now in March 104 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, the Trump DOJ says, well, I'm sorry, 105 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 1: you know, human error. In fact that they had not 106 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: been produced way in the past, so they weren't duplicative 107 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: at all. You know, you and I've talked about this before. Mark. 108 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: I think the lifespan of this case can be chalked up, 109 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: at least in part to the fact that this is 110 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: a pretty unusual issue. How often do you see somebody 111 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: in the right and somebody on the left agreeing, And 112 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: yet if the folks on the left would love to 113 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: see Donald Trump implicated in something like this, the folks 114 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: on the right would love to see Bill Clinton and 115 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: others implicated. And as a result, it just it just 116 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: hangs in. I mean, this is one of the reasons 117 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: Marjorie Taylor Green, who was this big acolyte for Trump 118 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: for years, she just couldn't handle the fact that his 119 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: DOJ seemed to be slow walking the Epstein thing. And 120 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: that's why she suddenly, you know, breaks away. She's no 121 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 1: longer in Congress. This is just one of those issues 122 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: where inquiring minds of all stripes along the political spectrum 123 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: want to know, and so it just prevents the case 124 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: from dying. And as you saw a week or so ago, 125 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: both Bill and Hillary Clinton were forced to give deposition 126 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: testimony before Congress. You know, at least they let them 127 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: do it up in Chapaquai, you know, where they live 128 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: up state New York. A is oupposed to force them 129 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: to go to Washington, d C. But yeah, they had 130 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:38,559 Speaker 1: to give sworn testimony. Just you know, we don't really 131 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: know yet why the Congress people were asking Hillary Clinton 132 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: about UFOs and Pizzagate, but apparently it was quite a 133 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: raucous day. 134 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 3: Well, I think it speaks to the quality of Congress 135 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 3: people these days. 136 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 4: But more on that another time. 137 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 3: The last thing I would point to Royle I kind 138 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 3: of alluded to it is that the specifics here. 139 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 4: I was going to read them, but man, they give 140 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 4: me the creeps. I don't want to. You know, this 141 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 4: is filled with specifics. 142 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 3: This series of FBI investigative interviews with this woman, whose name, 143 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 3: of course is redacted, says that Epstein took her to 144 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 3: either New York or New Jersey, where, quote, in a 145 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 3: very tall building with huge rooms, he introduced her to Trump. 146 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 3: Trump she said, quote, didn't like that I was a 147 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 3: boy girl, meaning a tomboy. The woman said other people 148 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 3: were present, but she couldn't recall who. Trump asked them 149 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,599 Speaker 3: to leave the room, then said quote something to the 150 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 3: effect of, let me teach you how little girls are 151 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 3: supposed to be. This is again according to the interview notes. 152 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 3: And then Trump then unzipped his pants, etc. I'm not 153 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 3: going to get into the rest, but she mentions that 154 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 3: he said, get this little bee, using the guess I 155 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 3: can say it, get this little bitch the hell out 156 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 3: of here. And in all of these specifics, Royal, it 157 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 3: seems as though the narrative is so filled with detail 158 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 3: that it gives it a veracity, you know what I mean? 159 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: Well, to me, it doesn't really necessarily give it veracity. 160 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: It does provide spaceticity and detail, and you're right, and 161 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: that often is a hallmark of some credibility and accuracy. 162 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: But here, given the other problems with their credibility, I mean, 163 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: you have to ask yourself here, why is the person 164 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: saying these things? Do they have a motive, do they 165 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: have an ax to grind? Are they looking for an 166 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 1: extortionate type settlement? Or something, and for her to rattle 167 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: off all this stuff, as you say, it's kind of 168 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: creepy and I'm glad you know you stopped you did, 169 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: But it doesn't really suggest that she has strong credibility. 170 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: I think we'd have to know a lot more to 171 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 1: conclude that, you know, wells we're probably going to believe 172 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: her or probably not. It's just so weird. There's nothing 173 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: normal or non weird about this Epstein story, and this 174 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: new wrinkle is consistent with everything else we've heard. 175 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, Royal OAS's so right. I mean, there's they're different 176 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 3: aspects to this. One is the legal, which you can 177 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 3: comment on so beautifully, and I also feel as though 178 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 3: you've touched beautifully on the political which is a huge 179 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 3: part of this as well, political parties united in wanting 180 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 3: the epteen files out, and then of course the clear 181 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 3: stink political stink associated with the accusations here. And then 182 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 3: ultimately you know what happens in terms of the half 183 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 3: life of this, like how long does it linger that 184 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 3: stink and how bad does it get? So that's it 185 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 3: to be continued. Thanks for joining my friend. Have a 186 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 3: good weekend, Royal Oaks. 187 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: You bet you too. 188 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 3: Thanks all right, Royal Oaks shedding some light on the 189 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 3: latest Justice Department move to publish documents with sexual assault 190 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 3: allegations against Donald Trump. It was a bad week for 191 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 3: Christine Nome. As long as we're in Washington, we'll visit 192 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 3: that next. This is the John Coblt holl Mark Thompson 193 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 3: sitting in for John on kf I AM six forty. 194 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 3: We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 195 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 196 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 5: six forty. 197 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 3: Thompson's sitting in and I know I needed a minute 198 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 3: too when I got the news Christy nom is out. 199 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 3: I was getting so used to seeing her every time 200 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 3: I arrived at the airport, and then the other airport, 201 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 3: and then the third and fourth airports I went. She 202 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 3: was everywhere in those videos she did with the cowboy hats, 203 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 3: the other cowboy hats, the camo, the assault rifle, and she, 204 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 3: you know, she liked making those videos. As it turns out, 205 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 3: as we learned from testimony, this has been widely reported, 206 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 3: but it's kind of good when she actually was facing 207 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 3: Congression congressional questioning. The media campaign was this. 208 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 4: Quarter of a billion dollar campaign. 209 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 3: And a lot of those moneies went to the should 210 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 3: we just say the Gnome circle, somebody with her political campaign, 211 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 3: their husband, they set up a company literally eight days 212 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 3: before they got all that money, that media money. The 213 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 3: media money was spread out a bit, but huge chunks, 214 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 3: tens of millions of dollars dedicated in no bid contracts. 215 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 3: I mean, let's face it, there was a lot about 216 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 3: Christy Nome that probably rubbed you the wrong way. She 217 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 3: liked to live large. You know, sixty thousand dollars Rolex, 218 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 3: a couple of private jets, but you don't remember the 219 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 3: sixty thousand dollar Rolex. 220 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah. 221 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 3: If she wore a sixty thousand dollars Rolex watch to 222 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 3: tour that run down El Salvador in prison, well, because hello, Deborah, 223 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 3: I know my Rolexes. 224 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 4: Okay, so you have a sixty K Rolex. 225 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 3: Nod because I don't have sixty k. I'll bet if 226 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 3: you check the Cobalt house there might be a couple 227 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 3: of high end watches. But it was it jumped out everybody. 228 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 3: So the idea then that she would be embroiled in 229 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 3: other controversies involving using border funds to buy a fleet 230 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 3: of private luxury aircraft, a seventy million dollar jet that 231 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 3: was being used by her. The department spent more than 232 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 3: three hundred million on three private jets, two Gulfstream G 233 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 3: seven hundreds and a Boeing seven thirty seven. The Boeing 234 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 3: thirty seven thirty seven was nicknamed the big beautiful jet. 235 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 3: Apparently that's what they called it there in DHS Land. 236 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 3: One jet, of course, featured a queen size bed, showers, 237 00:13:55,400 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 3: a kitchen, four large flat screen TVs, and people thought, eh, 238 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 3: that's kind of feeling like a waste of money. So 239 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 3: she was in trouble. And then of course there was, 240 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 3: as I mentioned, the media campaign, which was a massive blast, 241 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 3: showing her on a horse and showing her in all 242 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 3: those outfits I described. Then you know, of course, she 243 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 3: came into the position having written that memoir where she 244 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 3: killed her family dog, Cricket, a puppy that they couldn't train. 245 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 3: She had a fourteen month old wire haired pointer. She 246 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 3: called it this, this dog untrainable and dangerous. So she 247 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 3: led the pupp into the gravel pit. Well, apparently it 248 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 3: was well trained enough you could lead it into the 249 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 3: gravel pit. I mean, I don't know, I'm just saying, 250 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 3: you know, you're untrained. In my untrained may be different. 251 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 3: Untrained sounds like you're making progress with the pup. And 252 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 3: then he decided to kill it in the gravel pit. 253 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 4: You couldn't take it back to you know what, Yeah 254 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 4: to a thank you to a shelter. 255 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 6: Exactly, we're not even a shelter, but you know, go 256 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 6: to a place where it can be rescued or rescue organization. 257 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 4: Thank you, You're welcome. 258 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 3: Well, of course, all of these things helped lead to 259 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 3: a cloud around her, and then of course there was 260 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 3: the pilot that was fired for leaving her blanket behind. 261 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 3: Now Corey Lewandowski, and this is the other thing, the 262 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 3: bizarre configuration of the way DHS was running. It was 263 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 3: widely reported from the very early days of DHS that 264 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 3: if you wanted to get something down to the Department 265 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 3: of Homeland Security, you did not go to Christine Nome, 266 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 3: you went to Corey Lewandowski. So Lewandowski was from a 267 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 3: deve facto standpoint running DHS. Christy nom was on all 268 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 3: of those media ads the Super Bowl, it ran in 269 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 3: the Super Bowl, those commercials, she was in all of that. 270 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 3: She was the front person. But Lewandowski was making it anyway. Leuwndowsk, 271 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 3: of course, then fired this Coastguard pilot for misplacing GNOME's 272 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 3: blanket when they switched planes. Lewandowski, of course rumored to 273 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 3: have this affair that's been widely reported on and rumored about, 274 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 3: walked into the cockpit of the Coastguard plane as it 275 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 3: was taking off and flipped out over this missing blanket. 276 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 4: Was this blanket very expensive? No, it was just her 277 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 4: favorite blanket. 278 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 3: I'm sure it was pricey, because everything she wears and 279 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 3: has is pricey. 280 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:32,479 Speaker 7: It's a freaking blanket. 281 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 4: Well. 282 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 3: And then, of course, lastly, the you know, the affair 283 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 3: with Lewandowski and so again it was the alleged affair 284 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 3: that he's this advisor, never got any kind of confirmation 285 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 3: and ends up as her advisor. H and as I say, 286 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 3: as the de facto leader of DHS. So with all 287 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 3: of that, and by the way, with her husband still 288 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 3: very much in the picture, and I mean literally in 289 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 3: the picture. If you watch the Senate hearings, you could 290 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 3: see the husband sitting behind her. 291 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 4: He's supportive. 292 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 3: And now when we come back, I will tell you 293 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 3: the real reason why he's supportive of Christy nom through 294 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 3: her Corey Lewandowski reported affair. As we continue, Mark Thompson 295 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 3: here for John Cobelt. We are KFI AM six forty 296 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 3: live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 297 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobel's on demand from KFI AM 298 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 5: six forty. 299 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 3: Mark Thompson here for John, and we've got everybody else 300 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 3: on board, Eric and Deborn Angel and. 301 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 4: Rock and Roll Ray. 302 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 3: I will be talking about California gas prices coming up. Obviously, 303 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 3: we're getting hit harder than a lot of other states 304 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 3: just in terms of the price we have to pay 305 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 3: at the pump. I mean that's the case day to day. 306 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 3: But as prices will rise, given what's going on in 307 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 3: the Middle East, we'll talk about things that could happen 308 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 3: and things that will happen. Also have some thoughts on 309 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 3: what's happening in the Middle East related to that, I 310 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,360 Speaker 3: mean the Strait of Horror moves, what could happen with 311 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 3: the Strait with continued oil tankers being threatened, et cetera. 312 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 3: So we'll get to all of that. We're in the 313 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 3: middle of a Christienome conversation. I was telling you about 314 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 3: the way in which she was spending so much, and 315 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:28,199 Speaker 3: apparently Donald Trump was not super happy with the media 316 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 3: buy that was one of the things that he was 317 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 3: not according to insider reporting. So keenan in a minute, 318 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 3: why Christy Nomes's husband stayed married to her through the 319 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 3: louder than loudspeaker reporting the widely understood non secret that 320 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 3: she was rolling around with Corey Lewandowski, and then the 321 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 3: public humiliation of getting called out on that in the 322 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 3: Senate hearing two days ago. I'll give you thoughts and 323 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 3: reporting on that, but here is a little bit of 324 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 3: a cutdown as to that moment in the Senate hearing 325 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 3: when Gnome faced the music. 326 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 4: It's included in this report in. 327 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 6: Battled Homeland Security Secretary Christy Nome confronted over allegations she's 328 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 6: having a sexual relationship with former Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski, 329 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 6: who serves as an unconfirmed special governmental employee. 330 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 3: I have to say, just for the record, I don't 331 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 3: really care who rolls around with who. I'm not really 332 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 3: the sex police, you know, but when you're rolling around 333 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 3: with somebody else who you are working with this way, 334 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 3: and he has control of a lot of the agency. 335 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 3: As I was mentioning before the break it was widely 336 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 3: understood that if you wanted something done at DHS, you 337 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 3: went to Corey Lewandowski, not to Christy nom This becomes 338 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 3: a problem as a taxpayer. I'm not here to underwrite. 339 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 3: You know, your luxury is travel with a bed for 340 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 3: you guys to roll around on there. And you can say, well, 341 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 3: I don't know who's to say whether they're really using them. Well, 342 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 3: it's just it's just not what you do if you 343 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 3: want to be a responsible servant to the public. So 344 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 3: in any case, we continue. 345 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 8: Have you had sexual relations with Corey Lewandowski, mister Sherman, 346 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 8: I am shocked that we're going down and peddling tabloid 347 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 8: garbage in this committee. 348 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 7: No. 349 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 6: I offended by the question, but never directly answering it. 350 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 8: I really think you need to say the word no 351 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 8: into the record so that you can clear that up. 352 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 8: I think the ridiculousness of this and the tabloids that 353 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 8: you are quoting and referencing are insane, and this has 354 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 8: been That's a thing that I've refuted for hours, and 355 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 8: I continue to do that. 356 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 4: Gno. 357 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 6: I'm also forced to defend the apartment's two hundred million 358 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 6: dollar ad campaign with the Secretary as the star you've. 359 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 7: Budgeted in astonishing two hundred and twenty million dollars for 360 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 7: media consultant contracts so you can star and self promoting 361 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 7: photoshoots and lavish ad campaigns. 362 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 6: The Secretary also cornered on NBC News as reporting over 363 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 6: her seeking approval for the purchase of a seventy million 364 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 6: dollar luxury jet with taxpayer funds. The DHS says the 365 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 6: plane was intended to save taxpayer money. 366 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 4: Wouldn't have been. 367 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 7: Cheaper just to buy a deportation plane in the first place. 368 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 6: Democrats accusing her of steering more than one hundred and 369 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 6: forty million dollars to a marketing company with a tie 370 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 6: to her political apparatus, something GNOM defend is thanks the. 371 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 8: Correctly fourteen billion impressions from that marketing campaign. True, was 372 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 8: money spent in this country in an eight different company. 373 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 3: By the way, that's not defending the spend, that's justifying 374 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 3: the spend. What is going on here and I thought 375 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 3: what was laid bare and it's totally on brand for 376 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:55,199 Speaker 3: this person who has now been shunned essentially as a 377 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 3: public servant and removed from the DHS. What's clear here 378 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 3: again is that there were no bid contracts awarded. I mean, 379 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 3: this is a straight up grift. So it's not really 380 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 3: a question of how many people saw the spots you did. 381 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 3: You bought a Super Bowl spot, as I say, your 382 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 3: image and all these commercials are here at the airport 383 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 3: and every other airport. The idea is that when you 384 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 3: award no bid contracts to your friends and colleagues, husbands, 385 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 3: to companies that literally were just formed eight days prior 386 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 3: to getting the government money, it's a grift. 387 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 6: Something nom defend is correctly fourteen billion impressions from that 388 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 6: marketing campaign, true risk money spent in this country and 389 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 6: in eight different countries. 390 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 8: That illegal migration was coming from metalspect o verywhelmingly effective. 391 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 5: We all understand the argument. 392 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 2: That you've made. 393 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, now to Brian Nome, Christy Nomes's husband, family members 394 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 3: are hoping is reported that he finally leaves his wife Christy. 395 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 3: It was humiliation, as described by family friends, to hear 396 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 3: of her alleged affair with the top advisor. They fear 397 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 3: that he'll continue to stay in his marriage because of 398 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 3: what if you guessed Christian faith. Yeah, it's shocking. I know, 399 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 3: if you guess Christian faith, you get points. 400 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:37,959 Speaker 4: I thought it was financial. 401 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 3: Oh better, guess, I mean, at least that is somewhat justifiable. 402 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 3: It suggested. I'm astounded as well. Commitment to his vows. 403 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 3: I mean it suggested. He's a deeply faith based person 404 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 3: and commitment to his vows is something he takes very seriously. 405 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 3: But clearly I mean, and it's sort of again been 406 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 3: laid bare. He is married to somebody who doesn't share 407 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 3: the same commitment to the vows. So members of the 408 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 3: extended family of Brian Nome, Christie's husband, are saying that 409 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 3: the South Dakota businessman has long felt it was his 410 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 3: religious duty to stand behind his wife, even as this 411 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 3: very public scandal rocks their marriage. Quote he said, he 412 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,719 Speaker 3: decided about twenty years ago that it was his calling 413 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 3: from God to support her in whatever she decided to do. 414 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 3: This is a quote from one family member. So he 415 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 3: is put up at the humiliation and we'll see if 416 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 3: he sticks with her now. I think it's him honoring 417 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 3: the calling from God, the family member said, But it 418 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 3: seems that there would be some limit to that. The 419 00:24:55,600 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 3: Gnomes have been together for three decades. The whole thing 420 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 3: started in nineteen ninety two. They went to high school together. 421 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 3: They began dating when Christy was a junior at Hamlin 422 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 3: High School in South Dakota. Brian was a freshman at 423 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 3: Northern State University. They went on to have three children together. 424 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 3: They raised them in this ultra strict church community. They 425 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 3: worked the family farm together initially, and then Brian moved 426 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 3: into the insurance business, and three Christie entered politics and 427 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 3: O six she got the seat in the South Dakota 428 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 3: House Representatives and then she got the governorship of course 429 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 3: in twenty eighteen. But family members are saying that tensions 430 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 3: between the Homeland Security Chief Christy Noman her husband's relatives 431 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 3: have simmered for years. Many have long known about her 432 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 3: romantic entanglement with Corey Lewandowski, which spilled into the open 433 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 3: this week. She despises the Nome family, the relative said, 434 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 3: The relatives saying that Brian Nome appears determined to show 435 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 3: solidarity with his wife, even as she gets this bruising 436 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 3: public grilling from lawmakers, and even as she has faced removal. Now, 437 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 3: so that's the story behind the story, she leaves. I 438 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 3: think at the end of this month, I think the 439 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 3: timing of it, she'll be in office. For the rest 440 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 3: of March. When we come back, eight Democrats are going 441 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 3: to appear on the ballot for California governor. And it 442 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 3: might be a Democratic nightmare in this race for governor. 443 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 3: We'll get into that next. Mark Thompson here for John Coblt. 444 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 3: We are KFI AM six forty live everywhere on the 445 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 3: iHeartRadio app. 446 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 447 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 5: six forty. 448 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 3: Mark Thompson here for John Cobelt. The Democrats, of course, 449 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 3: competing for the California governorship find themselves in this bizarre situation. 450 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 4: Of course, you know Knews. 451 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 3: Him out and you know he's term limited, right, So 452 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 3: you have eight candidates, and in the eight candidates, you 453 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 3: are splitting this Democratic vote. The paperwork has been filed. 454 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 3: Eric Swalwell, former Controller Betty Ye, State Schools Chief, Tony Thurman, 455 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 3: the mayor of San Jose is running, Matt Mahan, former 456 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 3: congress Person Katie Porter, former LA Mayor Antonio Villa Ragosa, 457 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,360 Speaker 3: Tom Steyer. You've seen his commercials. You've seen the commercials 458 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 3: from all these people, roughly, and for HHS Secretary Javier Basseira, 459 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 3: So you've no doubt heard about this, and you no 460 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 3: doubt are aware of it on some level, but now 461 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 3: you are living it as we all are. 462 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 4: In a state. 463 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 3: Forty five percent of the voters are Democrats, just twenty 464 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 3: five percent are Republicans. Now you may be a Republican, 465 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 3: go hey, I don't even talking about ninety percent of 466 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 3: my friends are a Republican. I don't understand where where 467 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,199 Speaker 3: are the Democrats in the state. I mean, if we 468 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 3: all live in our own ecosystem right when it comes 469 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 3: to politics on some level. But the reality is that 470 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 3: forty five percent of California voters or Democrats and twenty 471 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 3: five percent of Republicans. But polling is saying that more 472 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 3: Democratic candidates are splitting this liberal share of the state's 473 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 3: votes versus the Republican side where they're just two candidates, 474 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 3: and that so the two Republicans could easily carry the 475 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 3: majority of votes, and that would leave Democrats in the 476 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 3: situation where you're voting for a Republican for governor. Whether 477 00:28:54,360 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 3: you like it or not, it's a real spot that 478 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 3: the Democrats find themselves in splitting the vote, and the 479 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 3: very real possibility that two Republicans end up in the 480 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:15,479 Speaker 3: general even in a heavily democratic state. So this large 481 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 3: field in a top two system that we have in 482 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 3: California is really flying in the face of a plea 483 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 3: in effect by democratic leadership. To guys, you can't see 484 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,479 Speaker 3: what's happening here, We're going to lose control of the 485 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 3: governorship of California. But when you feel as though you 486 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 3: are the most qualified leader, the most capable leader, you 487 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 3: end up not wanting to bow out of the race. 488 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 3: And all of these people feel as though they fall 489 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 3: into that category. So I watched this with great interest, 490 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 3: and there there is a lot of pressure. The state 491 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 3: party chair Rusty Hicks an open letter calling for Democrats 492 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 3: quote without a path to victory, to bow out. But 493 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 3: the reality is that there isn't much in the way 494 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 3: of movement. The candidates who filed paperwork to appear on 495 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 3: the ballot can still suspend their campaigns after is the 496 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 3: deadline today? I think it's today. 497 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, it is today. Yeah, So they. 498 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 3: Can still suspend their campaigns after today, but the names 499 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 3: will continue to appear on the ballot and will still 500 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 3: risk dividing the votes right. Candidates who appear on the 501 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 3: ballot after dropping out oftentimes continue to win votes Leland Yee, 502 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 3: for example, State Center state Senator Democratic State Center won 503 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 3: almost ten percent of the vote in the primary race 504 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 3: for Secretary of State twenty fourteen. That was despite the 505 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 3: fact they've been indicted on federal corruption and weapons trafficking 506 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 3: conspiracy charges dropped out of the race in March of 507 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 3: that year. So it's not uncommon for this to happen, 508 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 3: for a name to appear on the ballot again after 509 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 3: the deadline of today and then pull enough votes to 510 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 3: screw up the whole race. Newsome will not endorse, but 511 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 3: he talks about this situation that we find ourselves in 512 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:37,719 Speaker 3: in California, so many Democrats running and a public that 513 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 3: isn't really wedded to anyone. Gavin Newsom said, quote, when 514 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 3: I'm out in the community, people aren't talking to me 515 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 3: about this, which is interesting this late, just weeks before 516 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 3: early voting. As a consequence, I'm not directly as engaged 517 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 3: as perhaps I might need to be. 518 00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 4: What an excuse. 519 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 3: The public doesn't seem to be engaged, So I don't 520 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 3: really see the need to be engaged either. Falls last 521 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 3: month from Emerson College and from the Public Policy Institute 522 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:17,239 Speaker 3: of California found that Republican Riverside sheriff Chad Bianco and 523 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 3: former Fox News personality Steve Hilton, and the Democrats Swallwell 524 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 3: Porter and billionaire Tom Steyer are leading the overall field 525 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 3: with nine percent or higher. You may suggest that nine 526 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 3: percent isn't very good, and you'd be right, except again, 527 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 3: when you have this many horses running nine percent, all 528 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 3: of a sudden gets attention because the rest of the 529 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 3: Democrats are at or below five percent. So this is 530 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 3: a serious situation developing here. And California could very easily 531 00:32:55,080 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 3: end up with republican governor and a conservative agenda, and 532 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 3: how will that square with so many Democrats who control 533 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 3: the state House. A wild, wild political field and political 534 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 3: narrative playing out in California. They're tech layoffs in Silicon 535 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 3: Valley that in the next hour, gas prices are rising. 536 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 3: We'll talk about that, and of course we will check 537 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 3: in on the war. All of it's still to come. 538 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,479 Speaker 3: John Cobelt Show, Mark Thompson sitting in. 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