1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: Today, they Jersey's got to be tucked in. I was 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: trying to show my ass, Yes, exactly what I remember. 3 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what's up everybody. 4 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 3: I'm Peanut to him. And this is the NFL Player's 5 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 3: Second Acts. 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 2: Podcast, and with me, as always is my trusty co host, 7 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 2: Roman Corder Roy Harper. 8 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 4: I think I appreciate that. I know on TV right 9 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 4: now through the screen it may look like velvet, but 10 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 4: it is corduroy. 11 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 3: That's what I said. 12 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 4: I know I appreciate this corduroy because I just hosted 13 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 4: a fashion show and uh it's a little too hot 14 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 4: for it. But I still like to look good and 15 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 4: I feel good, look good, play good. And that's what 16 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 4: I did out there. I really I killed it. I 17 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 4: killed it, Peanut. I did my thing there. You got 18 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 4: to going off the notes. I freestyled and I crushed it. 19 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 4: And you know what, this interview is about to be 20 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 4: a crush too, because this is one of my favorite 21 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 4: people of all time. I watched this man growing up 22 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 4: wearing number twenty eight on the field. He always had 23 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 4: the backflap out. In college, he had the yellow mouthpiece. Yeah, 24 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 4: he was a smaller running back, undersized guy. But this dude, 25 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 4: all he did was kill it. And I'm so excited 26 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 4: to talk to this man. I'm so excited to have 27 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 4: him here. And he's also a native of this state 28 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 4: of Louisiana. 29 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 3: Go ahead. 30 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 2: He is a twelve year NFL VET, three time pro bowler, 31 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: member of the Atlanta Falcons Ring of Honor. Yeah, and 32 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 2: he's my brother and we in our own separate fraternity. 33 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 3: That's true. Walter Payton Man of the Year, Walter. 34 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: Payton Man of the Year winner, and he is the 35 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 2: founder of Work Done Charities. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to 36 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: the pod, mister Warrick. Do you know what I appreciate 37 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 2: you guys having me. Y'all crazy man, y'all funny, y'all look. 38 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 3: Speaking of Styland. 39 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 4: Look, he got the holder chip, he got the tie. 40 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 4: He made me feel like I was just okay. I 41 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 4: like I'm under dress. 42 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: You in the dress right now, let's just get all right. 43 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 3: I like I like the deacon suit though. It's cool. 44 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, man, wark Man, tell me how much pride you 45 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 4: take and being a Florida state symbol, because when you 46 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 4: guys were there, you made kids like me want to 47 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 4: be a Florida state Seminol. I don't know if everybody 48 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 4: grows up wanting to be a Florida State Siminol now, 49 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 4: but when I was growing up, I wanted to be 50 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 4: just like you. I want to have my backflap out. 51 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 4: I want to have the yellow mouthpiece, and I wanted 52 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 4: the little no checks or whatever what do you call them? 53 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 3: The decals that going. 54 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: On on the top. So if you have a good 55 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: game of making certain plays, you would get the decals 56 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: up there. So every guy, every guy was always trying 57 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: to who can get the most yes right? So that 58 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: was like a motivating thing to who's going to be consistent, 59 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: who's going to play well on a consistent basis, Who's 60 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: going to go out and make plays? So it was fun. 61 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 1: But you know, being a Seminole, I mean for me 62 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: because when I came in, Coach Bowden, you know they 63 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: recruited me a play defensive back. I made a deal 64 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: with Coach bowdeners, Coach, I want to come, but I 65 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: want to play running back. You give me opportunity to 66 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: play running back and if it doesn't work out, I'll 67 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: move to defensive back. And he believed enough in me 68 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: that gave me. He gave me that opportunity, and you know, 69 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: after that first week of busting long runs on the 70 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 1: first team defense and those things, they never even thought 71 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: about moving me to defensive back. So Mickey Andrews still 72 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: he's still mad with me today because I never played 73 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: defensive back in Florida State. But you know, just having 74 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: like coach Bowden, just being a part of like that 75 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: family because the way that he coached us, he pushed us, 76 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: but he challenged us, and he took us to a 77 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: Catholic church, went to a Baptist church and said, listen 78 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: on on on Saturdays, we all play as one. The 79 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: background doesn't matter, you know where you're from. We have 80 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: to play together as one and one. You know, the 81 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: way that he tried to lead us and motivate us 82 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: and really encourage us and challenge us all the time time. 83 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: And for me that was everything of being a no 84 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: I mean, that's the type of coach that you want 85 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: who's going to push you to always be the best 86 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: that you can be. Yeah, and he was just a 87 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: great individual like that. 88 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 4: About fifteen years ago you acquired ownership in the Atlanta 89 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 4: Falcons because you maybe discussed about how that came about, 90 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 4: how that opportunity come about and how you approached it. 91 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: My last year in Atlanta before they cut me, you know, 92 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: I was on the practice field. We were in practice, 93 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: and mister Blank was like, you know, because I was 94 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: at getting towards the end of my career, he just 95 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: asked me, so, what are you going to do after football? 96 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 1: You want to coach? You want to it's a I 97 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: was like, no, I want to be up there with you. 98 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:48,679 Speaker 1: And I just pointed up and you know, I guess 99 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: he took that. And then once I got I got released, 100 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 1: he mentioned on the call, just like, hey, I'm sorry 101 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: that I know it's just a part of the business 102 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: or whatever, and he said, but you know, whenever you 103 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 1: with this game, I would love to call you a partner. 104 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: And I honestly had no idea what that meant because 105 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm getting cut. Oh my god, I'm 106 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: been released. But I did talk to him. I built 107 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: a relationship with him, and when I got released in 108 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 1: Tampa the following year, you know, he reached out to 109 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: me and just like, hey, what are you going to do? 110 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I would love to, you know, call you 111 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: a partner. And I mean I had like three meetings 112 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: with him, and he cooked me dinner at his home 113 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: and he cooked dinner. It's like, hey, come on over, 114 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna let's talk about it. And he 115 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: had three meetings with me, and after the third time, 116 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, let out. I'm gonna go and 117 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: see what I can do. Because I wasn't the highest 118 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: paid player in my position. I mean, everything that I made, 119 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: I mean I tried to. I gave a lie back 120 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: to the nonprofit, but you know, I was just trying 121 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: to maximize it hold on tours. So I you know, 122 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: I had a meeting with my financial advisor and I said, hey, 123 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 1: what do you think about this? Or da da da, 124 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: and it's like okay, I said, well, let's try to 125 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: make something happen. And then I called Michal Blank said okay, 126 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: I'll do it, and you know, I invested, and you know, 127 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: the rest has been history, and I've just been really 128 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 1: low key about it. I didn't go out telling anybody. 129 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I became a partner in two thousand and nine, 130 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: and you know, it was just it's been a it's 131 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: been a blessing. It's been it's been pretty cool. 132 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 2: We were somewhere it might have been one of the 133 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 2: men in the year events and you and I we 134 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 2: started talking. I had come to find out that you 135 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 2: were a minority owner minority owner. 136 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 3: And I was like, Yo, that's dope. 137 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 2: I ended up calling my agent and was like, I 138 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 2: want to buy a stock I want to be a 139 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 2: minority owner. The problem is, I don't think they wanted 140 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 2: me to be. 141 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 1: It was. 142 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 3: I just think that's so cool that you. 143 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,039 Speaker 2: Got a little bit of stock in that, you know, 144 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 2: And because I swear and I've never told you this, 145 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 2: but as soon as you told me that, I went 146 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 2: back and I researched and I tried to do it. 147 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 2: I was trying to be a minority owner of an 148 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 2: NBA team, an NFL team, Like I tried. Now, I 149 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 2: couldn't come up with the capital of what that number 150 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 2: was after I saw it, even to get one percent. 151 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 2: But just you planted a seed in me and you 152 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 2: made me think about just wanting to be in that business, 153 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 2: in that space. 154 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 3: So I was just like, yo, that so thank you 155 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 3: for that. That was awesome. 156 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you think about it, I mean the 157 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: way that we have to approach investing. You know, everybody 158 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: wants to try to get the Max. It's just like 159 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: sometimes you put a little bit in and that grows, right. 160 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: I mean, everybody you want a certain percentage, but sometimes 161 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: it's in certain situations it's you do enough that you're 162 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: comfortable and then you let it grow. You're part of it, 163 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: you're invested in it. You know. It's just like any stock, 164 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: you're going to put enough in there for hopefully to 165 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: start grow. Oh the difference is when you're ownership and 166 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: a pro team that's going to grow over over the 167 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: course of a year. So that's like a really good investment. 168 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: So like I would tell people, stop focus on, you know, 169 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: trying to put whatever twenty thirty million whatever in and 170 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: you know you put money in, it's going to grow 171 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: for you. And the thing is you can't worry about 172 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get the money out next week or in 173 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: a year. It's gonna take time. That's an investment that 174 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: you have to sit there and be patient with and 175 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,719 Speaker 1: just watch it grow and you reap the benefits when 176 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: they sell the team. 177 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 4: I just think it's smart man, and applaud mister Arthur 178 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 4: Blank too for being receptive and be like, you know what, 179 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 4: I'd love to have you as a partner because a 180 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 4: lot of owners don't. They're not You're not gonna get 181 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 4: that answer all day, and so I think that was 182 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 4: let's let's give him some credit too for loving on 183 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 4: you and being there and just say hey, like no, 184 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 4: I'd love to call you a partner and being receptive 185 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 4: to that. 186 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: He is. He's amazing. I'm gonna be honest, he's you know, 187 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: I've learned a lot business from him, just how he 188 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: is and everything. You know, it's relationships, right. I built 189 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: a relationship where he trusts me and I called him 190 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: at any time when I was there and just talked 191 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: to him about I go to his home and you know, 192 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 1: just catch up. So I built a relationship where he 193 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: was comfortable with me. But he also knew that my 194 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: passion just wasn't on the field, he's off the field. 195 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: He supported me in that way, so he understood like 196 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: the big picture, and he presented an opportunity to me 197 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: that you can't it's that's hard to turn down. But 198 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: the thing is he had three meetings with me. I 199 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 1: wasn't convinced the first time around. I was like, I mean, 200 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: this is a lot I'm not the highest paid player 201 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: at Sense, but you know, after talking with him and 202 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: just really thinking about not today but the future that 203 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: next you know, basically we talked about generational wealth. Yes, 204 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: you know, that's what he was pushing me down that road, 205 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: and I'm just thankful that he We had three meetings 206 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: and he got to the point that, hey, this is something 207 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: I think you should do. It's beneficial not just for today, 208 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 1: but for the rest of your life. 209 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 210 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 2: I've never heard anyone say a negative thing. No, he's 211 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 2: a great I've heard nothing but but positive things. So 212 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 2: you call him mister blank, you call him, you call 213 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 2: him art, what you call him a artie? 214 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 3: No, I still some eggs Art call him. 215 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: I still call him mister blank, but I also call 216 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: him pops. I viewed him as a father figure to 217 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: me because of the relationship that we had, and he's 218 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: given me business advice. He's really been there and I've 219 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: learned a lot just by you know, sitting back and 220 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,719 Speaker 1: watching him. Right, if I call him up, I can 221 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: ask him any questions and he would give me a 222 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: He's gonna shoot me straight. This is what I think 223 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: you should do. This is what I would do in 224 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: that situation. I mean, that's all. It's just mad respect. 225 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 1: And you know I would do it thing for him 226 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: if he called me, I would, you know, bend over backwards, 227 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,119 Speaker 1: do anything for him. Man, I think that's vice versus Well. 228 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 3: We're going to take a short break and we'll be 229 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 3: right back now. 230 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 4: The one thing that we all are very much so 231 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 4: know about the work you do with your charities and 232 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 4: through your foundation rebuilding homes. How many times have you 233 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 4: done this, so let's talk. Let's look at the stats here. 234 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 4: So through your word done charities, you fully furnished two 235 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 4: hundred and thirty five homes, six thirty six you must 236 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 4: have just did one thirty markets served all right, six 237 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 4: hundred plus dependent families served. Ninety two percent of the 238 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 4: families remain in the homes that you have helped them 239 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 4: get into, fully furnished, that they have remained in there. 240 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 4: And I want you to dive into that more because 241 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 4: I think that's the real piece. 242 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I was gonna say nine may have sold 243 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: their home and bought another home, right, and you know, 244 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: diving there to a little bit more I have. I've 245 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: had a recipient that sold her home, she bought another home, 246 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: then her son bought his first home. So now you've 247 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: seen it generations where it's it's been beneficial and a 248 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: lot of the positive things that come from home ownership 249 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: is that kids are much more confident, they perform better 250 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: in school, you know, they're much more engaged in their community. 251 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: And it's just long term what you're doing as you're 252 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: teaching them about you know, the responsibilities and now home 253 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: ownership is first part of building that generational wealth. Obviously 254 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: it takes generations to do that, and families don't realize that, 255 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: you know that net worth until the home is sold, 256 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: but you're building the foundation that this is home and 257 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: we can always come back. Oh, we broke an arm, 258 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I know, we bus windows, we just playing 259 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: in the house. Bus windows broke on Hen's legs. You know, 260 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 1: all those things place they can come back and have 261 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: these memories that you have forever. I mean, and that's 262 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: the most important thing. 263 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 2: How that make you feel that when you found out 264 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 2: that mom you gave her the home, she bought a home, 265 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 2: sold the home, bought another home, then her son bought 266 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 2: his own home. When you found that news out, how 267 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:20,719 Speaker 2: did you. 268 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: Feel for me? It was like wow, I mean, that's 269 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: what it's about. That's how it's supposed to be right. 270 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: And she's a good mother. I mean she calls me, 271 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: you know, I have relationships with a lot of them 272 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: because hey, you called me. If you need anything, call 273 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: me if I can help. You know, she has her 274 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: own little nickname that she calls me. But she is 275 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: just a really nice person that works hard, that's doing 276 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: her part, and she's led by example. Right, She's shown 277 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: her son this is the steps that you need to take, 278 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: and now he's bought his first time. So it's definitely 279 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: been a blessing that But I just think, you know, 280 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: it's those little things that we can help people and 281 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:05,199 Speaker 1: teach them and point them in the right direction. And 282 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: that's why I started. I have homes for the holidays. 283 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: But then now I have scope overall brand of health 284 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: and wellness. Where we're now we're trying to bring in 285 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 1: health is your wealth. It's the physical part where you 286 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: work out, buy metrics, cook quick and healthy meals, frugal 287 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: chef in the house. But now you growing vestables in 288 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: your backyard. Then I have financial health. We're kind of 289 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: your future. If you invest in yourself, we will invest 290 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: in you. Have you start a savings account and I 291 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: always stress needs versus once because that's how I grew 292 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: up at eighteen years old, being financially responsible. I had 293 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: to focus on the things that we needed, not necessarily 294 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: things that we want. But then also now mental health, 295 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: the met programs called Betty's Hope where it's trying to 296 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: help families that stability just in everyday life, because today 297 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: kids don't they respond to trauma a lot different, they 298 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: don't go through that adversity that we went through coming up. 299 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, do you think that's one of the reasons, Like 300 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 2: all everything that you've just listed, is that do you 301 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 2: feel that that's one of those resources that you're providing. 302 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 2: That's how you've kept the families inside the home, like 303 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 2: the financial literacy, you know, learning how to take care 304 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 2: of your mental health and not getting burnt out, but 305 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 2: just knowing how to communicate the right way, having the 306 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 2: emotional intelligence to talk to your kids, to speak to 307 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 2: your kids, to pour into your kids. 308 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: Well, it's what I've experienced growing up, right, So everything 309 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: that I do, I've had experience I've had to go 310 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: through that I've had to do it myself. I mean, 311 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: I've been to counseling and surprising, I didn't go to 312 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: counseling to ten years after my mom's death. So just 313 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: think I wasn't. I didn't hang out in college, you know, 314 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: I was school practice back at the Dorn on the 315 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: off weekends, I was in bad Rouge. I drove all 316 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: the time home. In the summertime, I was at home 317 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: all the time. I went to summer school at Southern 318 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: at LSU, and you know, to classes. Anybody, well, I 319 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: just took summer classes. Some classes. I was just yeah, 320 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: well I'm also a jack too. I'm a jag as well. Yeah, 321 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: but I just I was at home. But I also said, hey, 322 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: I'm a maximizer and at least take a class so 323 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: I could still be here. I worked out. I worked 324 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: out three times a day. You know. I just did 325 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: everything that I needed to do to make sure. So 326 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: everything that I pass on with the programs that we do, 327 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: it relates to me because it was a part of 328 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: my journey and the way that I grew up. My 329 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: grandmother was hard on me, My mom was hard on me. 330 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: My father figure, Yeah, because my dad wasn't in my life. 331 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: I had another individual. His name is Maitland Brooks. He 332 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: passed away two years ago on Mother's Day just beat 333 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: the third year. But I met him when I was 334 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: nine years old, and he had been in my life forever, 335 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: and he whipped me on the football field taught me 336 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: all these things. But he also helped my mom a 337 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 1: lot because I got it from a male perspective. These 338 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: are the things I need to do while I'm at home, 339 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 1: and I need to take care of the kids. And listen, 340 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: I was taking care of kids twelve years old, cooking, cleaning, 341 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 1: making sure everybody did homework, you know, take a bath 342 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: the eighth And I learned a cook at the early 343 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: age because when you don't have anything in them cabinists, 344 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 1: what you do. I just went in, had tuna fish, 345 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: we had tuna, castle, role whatever, and we just mixed 346 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 1: whatever it was in the cabinists. We made a little 347 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: castle road right there and they ate boom. I mean, 348 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 1: we were about we were surviving, and that's that's what 349 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: it was. So everything that I do not proper wise, 350 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: I've been there and done it. So that makes me 351 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: much more passionate about that. If I can do it, 352 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: if I can do it, I know they could do it. 353 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: The difference is we have to push the kids to 354 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: understand that we're all going to fall down. How are 355 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 1: you going to get back up? Because we how we 356 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 1: respond diversity, everybody's going to respond differently, But how do 357 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 1: you get back up and take the next steps? But 358 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: just no, it's not going to be easy. The pathway 359 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: is not going to be for nobody. That's deep. 360 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 4: I just think work story is so unique. And what 361 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 4: I've picked up and listened to you is that and 362 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 4: I say this a lot of times, and I learned 363 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 4: this from somebody else that once you're affected by something, 364 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 4: you'll become an advocate for it. In your childhood traumas 365 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 4: where you lost your mother as she was a police 366 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,719 Speaker 4: officer that was killed, and you took over and you 367 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 4: took care of your family. You were the father figure 368 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 4: or the parent as a young person, even in school 369 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 4: in college. 370 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 3: And this is. 371 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 4: Why everybody has been such a big fan of you 372 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 4: and who you are as a character. And so now 373 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 4: when I we hear all these stories, and that's why 374 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 4: you can tell me it's not two hundred and thirty 375 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 4: five homes, it's two hundred thirty six because you truly 376 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 4: have been through these and like you are truly the 377 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 4: person that is being the advocate for all these things, 378 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 4: like you are really cleaned up and changing lives and 379 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 4: you have not allowed your past traumas to continue to 380 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 4: do that to affect your tomorrow's And how do you 381 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 4: do that? Like, how do you genuinely continue to just like, well, 382 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 4: you know, it's just what I've had to do. 383 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 1: I appreciate. I appreciate that. And the thing is, I'm 384 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: not looking for attention, right because my intentions is not 385 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: to get all the notoriety. I just like the things 386 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: that I do. I just like to help people. I 387 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: just want to see us have a you know, better society, 388 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: healthier society, and want you know, the pathway you know, 389 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: to be simple and and not always easy because we 390 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: are going to have challenges. But I want to be 391 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: to help people on their journey. And for me, you know, 392 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 1: it's when I lost my mom. The city of ben Rouge, 393 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: they wrapped their arms around us and they showed me 394 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 1: what it means to care about your neighbor, your community. 395 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 1: And from that, I mean, I've just taken what I've 396 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: seen and growing up my grandmother, I had people somebody 397 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: sleeping in the house, but like who is this, Oh, 398 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 1: this is somebody else? You know, they need a place 399 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: to stay. I saw her first hand for my grandmother, 400 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 1: how she gave and how you know, the sacrifices she made. 401 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: And you know, my mom, the type of police officers 402 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: she was is that she was working at a store 403 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 1: off duty, you know, working extra job at a store, 404 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 1: and when guys come up, She's like, I don't want 405 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 1: to take you to jail, Come on, do the right thing. 406 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 1: I mean, it's like she's given people opportunities. She wasn't like, 407 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: oh you're going to jail, you don't, you know some 408 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: and such. So she wasn't. She really cared about her community. 409 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: She gave back and she helped people. And so I 410 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: had examples early on, you know, the proper way to go. 411 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 1: And I'm thankful for that because that has helped me 412 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: along my journey. And I had great leaders, like I 413 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: was talking about Chu Chu my pop father figure. He 414 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: challenged me to be the best that I can be. 415 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 1: That's why in football, I'm the smallest guy out there, 416 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: one hundred. I went to Florida, say I was one 417 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,400 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty some pounds, you know, but I did 418 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: not play that way. I wasn't I wasn't made that way. 419 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: I was just like, you know what you said, I'm 420 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: not good enough. I'm gonna show you I'm good enough. 421 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: That's why I worked out three times a day. That's 422 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: why I did the things that I did because on 423 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 1: my shoulder, I was always about I have to prove 424 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: to X, Y and Z that I can do it. 425 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: And just think when I was playing professional my second 426 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: game in Tampa, We're playing Alliance up North, I had 427 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: like over twenty carries and I scored my first professional 428 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 1: touchdown on the plane Coach dungeons on the we're flying back. 429 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: We won a game. He keeps looking back at me. 430 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: It's like, I'm like, coach, what's the problem. I mean, 431 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: what's wrong? Are you okay? I'm just worried, I said, coach, 432 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 1: I'm fine. I do this all the time. Because he 433 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: thought I took too many hits. It's like, no, I 434 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: do this all the time. And then it took a 435 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,959 Speaker 1: couple of years later that Mike Alstele gets injured and 436 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: then I come in in like nine games, rush for 437 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: one thousand yards. Then he didn't question me after that. 438 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: Can I take the pounding? Can I do it? But 439 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 1: it was the work at the commitment in me that 440 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna show you. And that's how I take from 441 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: what on the football field to everything I do in 442 00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: my life. I do that, and you know, I don't 443 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: know anything else. That's just how I was raised because 444 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:07,199 Speaker 1: from first start playing football at seven years old, I 445 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: was the last kid picked. But I'm gonna show you 446 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 1: I can play. I was the first kid picked. After 447 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 1: you know, we just played tackle football on the streets. 448 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: I mean we we did some things, but I was 449 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: just a rebel all the time. Like you told me 450 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,199 Speaker 1: I couldn't do it. I'm gonna show you. 451 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 3: Well, if it makes you feel any better. 452 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,479 Speaker 4: I remember tackling you earlier on in my career, and 453 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 4: because I'd watched you, I've seen you play so big. 454 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 4: I was surprised that when I hit you, how I 455 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 4: like you felt like, man, he really isn't like three hundred. 456 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 3: Pounds, you know what I mean, He's not twenty pound 457 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 3: running back. 458 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 4: Even though I imagine you that in my own eyes 459 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 4: because you've always played so big. Then I was like, okay, yeah, okay, 460 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 4: he is what they say in the book. 461 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 1: Well I was. I would say too. Is that I 462 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: also learned I can make it look like you knocked 463 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: me out, but it didn't hurt me at all. You know, 464 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 1: you hit me, I'm gonna go with I never tried 465 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: to fight the hit. You always go with it. I mean, 466 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,199 Speaker 1: because I'm you know what, I'm gonna live for the 467 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: next down. I'm not gonna try to run over somebody 468 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 1: or this or that. No, you can hit me. You 469 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: try to take me out, I'm gonna go with it. Boom. 470 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 1: It made a look crazy, but I'm gonna get up 471 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: for the next play. That's you know. That's how that 472 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: was my mantra. And the other thing I'll say is too, 473 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: is that earlier you mentioned about, you know, like my 474 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: playing career. My second year in the league. You know, 475 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,479 Speaker 1: my brother's assistants weren't doing well in school. I just 476 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: won Rick of the Year in Tampa. That next year, 477 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: I moved the youngest three year with me, and then 478 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: you know, I was going to PTA meetings. I was 479 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 1: watching helping, you know, going to support them because my 480 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,239 Speaker 1: brothers they played football, you know, running track and all 481 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,959 Speaker 1: that basketball. I was doing all this stuff. Wasn't even 482 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: hanging out with teammates anything. I was dropping them off 483 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: at school, go to the facility practice, that I had 484 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 1: to go pick them up this and that I was 485 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: doing all of that right. And Coach Dungee's wife helped 486 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: me a little bit too, because she attended meetings with me. 487 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 1: But family has always been first, right, always, That's always, 488 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 1: And I mean, I'm gonna sacrifice some things, yeah, but 489 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do what I have to do. I'm gonna 490 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: get the things I need to get done so that 491 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: I can make sure that I took care of my family. 492 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: And that's that was the commitment that I made after 493 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,719 Speaker 1: now my mom's not there anymore, I have to be 494 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: the one that they rely on. 495 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 496 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: That was like their father. I'm their big brother. That's 497 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 1: why you know how I am that I'm very direct. 498 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: I'll tell you you're right or wrong. I'm gonna be 499 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 1: very direct. That's how my mom was, my grandmother's that way. 500 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: So I learned from them on how to you know, 501 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: how to be And I think that is just still 502 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: some things that I'm a part of that generation before me, 503 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: how they were parents and back in the day. 504 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I know one of your goals you spoke 505 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 2: about wanting to end generational poverty. 506 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 3: How do you think that's going well. 507 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: Homeownership starts with that because you build a foundation, and 508 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: you know, I try to tell them this is this 509 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: is the first step. But now I brought into support 510 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: services that also now gives them tools and resources that 511 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 1: now they can rely on. They still have to do 512 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: their part, right. I could bring this stuff to you, 513 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 1: but if you don't participate and be open and understand 514 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: what I'm trying to bring to the table, because you know, 515 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 1: a lot of communities they don't financially what they're doing. 516 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: They now all all weekend, nobody's cooking. How much money 517 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: you spending eating fast food? 518 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 3: Right? 519 00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: Just think how how healthy you know, a lifestyle that 520 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: you can have if you're actually cook your meals at home, 521 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna save money, go to the grocery store, eat leftovers. 522 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not the end of the world, right, 523 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, just think about all of those things. 524 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:17,239 Speaker 1: But when we're talking about hey, I like, you know, 525 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: fancy things and such and such, It's like that stuff 526 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: really shouldn't even matter to you, right, because it's the 527 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: memories that we make together. So I'm really more about 528 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: let's create experiences. So let's do things that create memories, 529 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 1: so we have those things to hold onto because in 530 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 1: my situation not having my mom, that's all I can 531 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: gravitate to is those memories. So now I stress that 532 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 1: with families like material things, it don't make you a 533 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 1: better person. Right, that's material said, you know kids growing 534 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: up wearing expensive shoes. You gar out of that stuff 535 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 1: just like that. Why even waste money on that? Right, 536 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: it's just trying to get them to have a different mindset. 537 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: And I said, stop thinking about today, think about the 538 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: next twenty thirty years of your life. How do you 539 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: want to live? And that's the mindset I had where 540 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: I was thinking about the next twenty thirty years of 541 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: my life in the position, how can I help my 542 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 1: brothers and sisters be the best they can be. 543 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 4: You're giving them a community when you bring in all 544 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 4: these social services. You're bringing other pieces to the pot. 545 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 4: You're not just like, okay, here where you're at. You 546 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 4: can live here, new computer, new house, and here we 547 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 4: go some keys and you go. You try and bring 548 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 4: the other attributes to what a true community when you 549 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 4: lean on each other is for these people, How have 550 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 4: you continued to develop that? 551 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 3: How did that come about? 552 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: Well, I tell them. Whenever I help a family, I say, 553 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: you're a part of the WDC family. So now you 554 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: need anything, All you got to do is reach out. 555 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: We're going to have programs that you can participate in, 556 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: but it's really on you as the individual, doing your part, 557 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: because I learned from my experience that if I don't 558 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: invest myself, someone else can want something for me. And 559 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: what does what is that going to do? If they 560 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: wanted more than I do, It's that's not beneficial. So 561 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: I provide. I said, you have to do your part. 562 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: I'm not going to give you anything. You know, it's 563 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: not a handout, it's a hand up. You have to 564 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: do your part. 565 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 2: I love that quote. I came in with that quote. 566 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 2: You know that, right, No, I read it in his bio. 567 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 2: What he's talking about. 568 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 3: I came with. 569 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 4: What he does is that we don't give a handout, 570 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 4: we give a hand up. 571 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 3: I wrote that here. 572 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 2: I made that he I told him that, and I 573 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 2: could have sworn was underword done. I told him that, 574 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 2: and then I also did the once you experienced something, 575 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 2: you're an advocate for it. 576 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: I told you that too. 577 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 2: Well, once you're affected by something, change advocate. I changed 578 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 2: it up just now two a's. If they could give 579 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 2: out the Walter Payton min of the Year Award like 580 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 2: multiple times, I think you would win it every year. 581 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 3: A line, You're not wrong. 582 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: I am not wrong. Like you've heard about your foundation. 583 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 3: Like you'd probably have won it like five times. 584 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 4: This foundation has done so much. Yeah, and we've all 585 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 4: heard about it because of all the great works and 586 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 4: then also with some of these children and kids have 587 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 4: been able to do after that as well. So you've 588 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 4: helped generations and we all recognize it. And then we 589 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 4: now we want to give you kudos for that. I 590 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 4: want to give you kudos for given the Packers their 591 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 4: very first lost in the playoffs in two thousand and two. 592 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,959 Speaker 4: Green Bay had never lost a home. What was that 593 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 4: atmosphere like? What was that experience like? Because that was 594 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 4: the young Mike Vic days as well, So everybody was 595 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 4: excited about that. But you played a large part in that. 596 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 4: You had over one hundred yards total offense. You had 597 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 4: sixty four on the ground, four catches for forty yards. 598 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 4: So man, what was that like? Going in the Lambeau 599 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 4: giving them their very playoff loss? 600 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: It was fun just because you know, being in Tampa, 601 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: I used to always go to Limbo all the time 602 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: and play them, you know, at least once a year. 603 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: But now with the importance of the game, the height 604 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 1: of it, playoff game on the road, I mean, it 605 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: was it was just great to go and I love 606 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: to play on the road, yeah, because I mean you 607 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: go there and you you make a play, you can't what. Yeah, 608 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: but I enjoyed it. It but it was it was fun. 609 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: I mean we came together right like you said, you know, 610 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: I had sixty four and forty. The thing is, I 611 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: was just trying to be a dual threat and I 612 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: was trying to do my part. Mike obviously, you know, 613 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: explosive player, this is that. But we had such a 614 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 1: good balanced team, so we could run it and we 615 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: could throw it, and it was just what are we 616 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: going to utilize? But our defense played at such a 617 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: level that, you know, I think it took people by 618 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: surprise of how good our defense was. So it was 619 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: a blessing and for me to be able to say 620 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: I beat the Green Bay Packers on the road, you know, 621 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 1: on the stadium, in your stadium. I enjoyed it. 622 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a. 623 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 1: Good feeling all day. 624 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 3: We'll be right back. 625 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 2: You've been through a lot, and it doesn't seem like 626 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 2: you get rattled. 627 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 3: You seem like you're calming the chaos. I do. I 628 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 3: don't think he even gets mad. Yeah yeah, yeah, I 629 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 3: was gonna say something else. Wait, but like yeah, you 630 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 3: just you just like you're calming chaos. Right. 631 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 2: What was your welcome to the NFL moment? Like what 632 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 2: and once you got to the league? Like what shook you? 633 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: Well, I can't say anything really shook me because I 634 00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: know in Tampa my a year, you know, being hazed. 635 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: You know, back in the day, we were getting hazed. 636 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 4: Like yeah, everybody else too, Yeah, you fight, this is 637 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 4: what everybody does. 638 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: Well, it's I think, you know, understanding that, oh I 639 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 1: had to do this just so that I can I lie, 640 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: you know, getting a Warren SAP's good favor, you know, 641 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: all those things. So it was you adjust, right, and 642 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: I adjusted to the fact that, hey, you know, as 643 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: a rookie, I'm responsible for these things. And because I 644 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: have responsibility off the field, this they didn't really affect 645 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: me that much. It just became Okay, this is what 646 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: I gotta do. I'm I'm gonna do what I have 647 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: to do. So I wasn't necessarily phased. You know, I didn't. 648 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 1: I didn't want to be a lie, you know, bullied 649 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: in a sense. And you know, Sap he you know, 650 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: And I'm always say Sap because be different. I love 651 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: him to that. But he was different, and but he 652 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: he was one of those guys that, hey, you're a rookie, 653 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,399 Speaker 1: X Y and Z, this is what you got. I need 654 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: to do and need to make it happen. Yes, sir, he. 655 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 2: Might be the first one I know did not have 656 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 2: a welcome to this is the most work done answer, 657 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 2: You're welcome, and he was so chill. All I got 658 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 2: to do is I gotta pay how much royalties? 659 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 3: I would like to know what you. 660 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 4: Consider your highlight play, Like if I could have one 661 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 4: game that encapsulates work done and I can show it 662 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 4: to my son, like this is the one, what game 663 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 4: would that be? And how is that performance? And I'll 664 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 4: go watch it. But I just would love to know 665 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 4: what your answer would. 666 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: Be to that that is a good one because it's 667 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: a lot of games. 668 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 3: No, no, Like, look, I grew up watching you big time. 669 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,800 Speaker 1: I would probably say one of the most exciting things 670 00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: is that when I was in Tampa, we played that 671 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: Monday night game against the Rams, and something I would 672 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 1: never ever do is that on the towards the end 673 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 1: of the game, but one of the last places that 674 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 1: I took off from the four yard line and dove 675 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: into the end zone. Yeah. I don't ever leave my 676 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 1: feet at all, but on that for some reason, I 677 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 1: took off from the four, dove in scored the touchdown 678 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: when it help us win the game. Good night, and 679 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 1: that was the That was the year after that, we 680 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 1: didn't have a catch to go to the Super Bowl 681 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 1: in the NFC Championship game against the Rams. So the 682 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 1: year later we had played them in Tampa, and uh, 683 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: I was a good game. I mean I can name 684 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: all kinds of plays that you know, I like, I'm 685 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 1: not trying to get hit. I'm not trying to you know, no, 686 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 1: you're not going to hit me, just to that, and 687 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: I was trying to make guys miss when I rushed 688 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 1: for two hundred my first time ever against the Cowboys 689 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,359 Speaker 1: and it was just like, no, you know, I don't 690 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: want to get touched today. So it's just it's a 691 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 1: lot of games that I can probably bring up, but 692 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 1: that one comes to minds that, Yeah, Monday night game, 693 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,360 Speaker 1: and it was an intense game. And I remember Seun 694 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,800 Speaker 1: Key threw me the ball and I was being spun 695 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 1: around and I pitched the ball back to him and 696 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 1: he took it and ran for a first down. And 697 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: then later on he pitched me the ball and I 698 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 1: took off from the four year old line and go 699 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,879 Speaker 1: into the en zone. And again I never leave my feet. 700 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 1: I'm only one hundred and eighty pounds. Why am I 701 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: gonna leave my feet? They just knocked me. Yeah, you 702 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 1: just go get. 703 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you got one. 704 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:39,879 Speaker 1: You gotta play. 705 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:41,760 Speaker 3: No, I don't. 706 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 4: But you know, it's been like games where you just 707 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 4: feel like you're in the zone. 708 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,760 Speaker 3: Like your eyes are just right. Yeah, like you see everything. 709 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 4: Like when when I think it's run, I'm anticipating run, 710 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 4: it's run. So like I guess stuff like that happens 711 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,879 Speaker 4: and very rarely, but you get the zone. 712 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, you do it. I mean I remember when we 713 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 1: were in a playoff game in Atlanta playing the Rams 714 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,760 Speaker 1: and I rushed for I mean, I was making people 715 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 1: miss and you literally you see me, and I was 716 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 1: shook and walking to the end zone. I wasn't getting here. 717 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 1: It's like, oh my god. But then they take me 718 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,399 Speaker 1: out the game because I could have rushed for over 719 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,359 Speaker 1: two hundred yards, you know, yeah plus, but we were 720 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 1: beating them bad, I guess. So it is what it is, 721 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 1: is those games happened. I mean, and it's always something 722 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 1: that one of those long runs. And I remember early 723 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 1: in my Atlanta days we played the Steelers and I 724 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 1: bust the tackle and ran up the sideline and I 725 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 1: ran them to the end zone. So it's just like 726 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 1: plays that I made over the years you think about 727 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 1: and it's like, wow, yeah, you know that's I was. 728 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 1: I was running for my life. 729 00:37:53,400 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 2: That's what motivation today. 730 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 3: You get me today. 731 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 1: I was just gonna go get down in a fetal position. 732 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 1: You know. I would get all up, so you're not 733 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 1: gonna get the big hit. I would crunch up and 734 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 1: get in the fetal position. What was the hardest hit 735 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 1: you ever took the ground? 736 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 3: Nobody ever gave you the business? Were you just like damn? 737 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 1: Yo? 738 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:25,240 Speaker 3: He ray Lewis got me on that one. Somebody nobody. 739 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 3: He said, no, no, I love this. I'm trying to 740 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 3: convince him, but it was like shut it down. 741 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 1: No, I wouldn't give anybody any credit like that anyway. 742 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,359 Speaker 1: Why because again, you hit me, I'm gonna go with it. 743 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna fight it, right, just yeah, but I remember, 744 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 1: I don't want to call I don't want to call him. 745 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 3: I was We'll just say a player. 746 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, well player. Yeah, he played linebacker. He tried to 747 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 1: hit me when I was going out of bounds and 748 00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 1: he dove it. Man, I still doshed him. I still 749 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 1: dusted him, and I just screamed his name. He was like, 750 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:12,439 Speaker 1: So we still talk about that. We still talk about that. 751 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 4: Did it shake your confidence at all that you could 752 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 4: play in the NFL? The fact that Charlie Ward won 753 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,840 Speaker 4: a Heisman and then would not play in the NFL 754 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 4: as great as he was in college, and you sharing 755 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 4: that backfield with him, you saw it firsthand, and you 756 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,919 Speaker 4: were considered a small guy too. Did that ever shake 757 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 4: your confidence because Charlie Ward was it. 758 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 3: But he had to go play basketball. 759 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 1: Well, no, it didn't shake my confidence. But also knew 760 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 1: why because at that time, a quarterback of his caliber, 761 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,880 Speaker 1: the athleticism, the type of you know what he brings 762 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,280 Speaker 1: to the table, they were still more I need straight 763 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 1: dropback quarterback. I mean, he was a guy who was 764 00:39:56,239 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 1: ahead of the big cinema, nabs of those things, right, 765 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 1: and he was just like, listen, you know he won 766 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 1: the Heisman. It's like, if you're gonna draft me, you 767 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 1: didn't need to draft me in the first round because 768 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 1: if you're telling me I want the highest one, the 769 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 1: best quarterback, you know you should draft me early. If not, 770 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go and play basketball. And I don't think 771 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 1: he has any regrets a great basketball career, right, so 772 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:28,880 Speaker 1: you're telling me a guy that talented on the football field. 773 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 1: I mean, if it wasn't downfield, he made some things happen. 774 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 1: He ran, he was he was doing those things before 775 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 1: my nabs and VIGs and those things. I mean, he 776 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:42,400 Speaker 1: was special. 777 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 3: Shout out to Tayler war for betting on itself. 778 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 1: Well he won. He played a long time in basketball, right, 779 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 1: he didn't have to get he didn't have to play 780 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 1: football and get hid and beat up and all that stuff. 781 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 3: But it just kind of goes to show. 782 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,840 Speaker 2: We were talking to war Moon a little earlier, a 783 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 2: couple of days ago, and he basically said that, you know, 784 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 2: he had to go to Canada to play because they 785 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 2: didn't like his style of play, and then when he 786 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:08,840 Speaker 2: came here, he just had to really. 787 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 3: Show him like, no, I can. 788 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 2: I can do this, Like I'm not gonna change You're 789 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 2: not gonna change my position. I don't want to be 790 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 2: a running back or a receiver or a dB. I'm 791 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,840 Speaker 2: a quarterback and I can. I can play this position. 792 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 2: I'm smart enough to do it at this level. Even 793 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 2: though I've been in Canada and I won five Great Cups, 794 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,319 Speaker 2: that's not enough, Like I can, I can do this, 795 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:28,359 Speaker 2: you know. 796 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,760 Speaker 3: So, yeah, shout out the Cella War for just picking himself. 797 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,839 Speaker 1: But I had that same intality. Is that I'm not 798 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,400 Speaker 1: big enough. Yeah I was, you know, I was drafted 799 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,799 Speaker 1: those one hundred and seventy some pounds. I'm not big 800 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,840 Speaker 1: enough supposed to play running back in the National Football League. 801 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 1: You know what, I'm gonna show you that I can. 802 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 1: And I just worked, worked every opportunity that I got. Yeah, 803 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 1: I was going to show you that I can run inside, 804 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 1: I can block the Kevin Greens, Reggie Whites of the world. 805 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:57,880 Speaker 1: Is that I had to play against those guys, Yeah, 806 00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 1: and I you know, I did the things I had 807 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:04,920 Speaker 1: to do to show up, you know, every week, and 808 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,439 Speaker 1: once I've got my opportunity to be the guy get 809 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,799 Speaker 1: the ball I showed you. 810 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:15,279 Speaker 2: All right, I'm giving you four picks, four picks your 811 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:19,920 Speaker 2: Mount Rushmore of personal growth of people that have helped you, 812 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:24,920 Speaker 2: nurtured you, loved you, just planet siege in your life 813 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,360 Speaker 2: that help you get to where you are today right now. 814 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 2: If you have four people to pick from or put 815 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,359 Speaker 2: on this Mount Rushmore, who would those four people be. 816 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 1: I'm a start off one, my mom right, my grandmother, 817 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,719 Speaker 1: my father, figure Mayland Brooks, his nickname was Chow Chuo. 818 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:48,959 Speaker 1: The fourth one. It's hard to say because I had 819 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 1: influential individuals, you know, like a Bobby Bowden and Coach 820 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:59,040 Speaker 1: Dungee that I took what they gave me, and you know, 821 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,759 Speaker 1: I try to use it, you know, my advantage to 822 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:06,279 Speaker 1: help me. You know. So I think Coach Bowden, Coach Dungee, 823 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,960 Speaker 1: and then you know when I met mister Blank, I 824 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,839 Speaker 1: mean he really helped me shoot up. So I mean 825 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,200 Speaker 1: they would have their own little portion with three of them. Yeah, 826 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,759 Speaker 1: they would have their own little portions because you know, 827 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 1: being a freshman at Florida State, having Charlie Ward, because 828 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 1: this is someone that when I was in the room 829 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:32,879 Speaker 1: emotional crying, you know, having a bad day, He never 830 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:34,840 Speaker 1: judged me, he said, there and he listened to me, 831 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 1: gave me advice and someone that I that I just 832 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:43,400 Speaker 1: trusted that you know, we had these deep conversations about 833 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 1: family and everything else of what I was missing, and 834 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:51,960 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you can't those people at that 835 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,239 Speaker 1: right time in my life. They were there for me 836 00:43:56,239 --> 00:44:00,319 Speaker 1: that supported me doing those important years. Because I could 837 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,799 Speaker 1: have easily been distracted and gone down the wrong way 838 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,359 Speaker 1: and not cared about anybody. But because I had all 839 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,840 Speaker 1: of those individuals in my life at that time that 840 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,839 Speaker 1: really they kept eyeing me. And even when I left 841 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 1: Florida State, coach Biden was still there, right, and go 842 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 1: to Tampa and I have Coach Dungee that you know, 843 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,880 Speaker 1: I went from greatness to greatness. Yea, having you know, 844 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 1: two great coaches and you know, it's just a blessing. Honestly. Yeah. 845 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 2: I heard someone always say great journeys require great guides, 846 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:36,200 Speaker 2: and it's up to you to recognize who those those 847 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,319 Speaker 2: guides are. Yeah, on that journey, And it sounds like you, 848 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 2: on your journey you were able to recognize who those 849 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,359 Speaker 2: people are. Could you give us like you said, your 850 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,719 Speaker 2: mom choo choot, your grandmother. 851 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:51,720 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, my mom, my grandmother, to Vitol, my pops 852 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:57,680 Speaker 1: choo choo, and then I would just put you know, well, 853 00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:04,279 Speaker 1: it's like four guys, yeah, Coach Bowden, Coach Dungee, and 854 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:08,280 Speaker 1: mister Blank. I mean even after I left Tampa and 855 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:12,400 Speaker 1: went to Atlanta. I mean he really opened up to me. 856 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,840 Speaker 1: Right Like I said, I used to go to his home, 857 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,239 Speaker 1: I would have dinner. We would just sit there and 858 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:21,000 Speaker 1: talk and talk about life and talk about community, and 859 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,120 Speaker 1: it's just the impact of things I wanted to do. 860 00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,880 Speaker 1: So he understood and saw something different than me at 861 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,760 Speaker 1: an early point in my life while I was still 862 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:34,319 Speaker 1: playing for the Falcons. So I mean, having those individuals 863 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:38,320 Speaker 1: that can impact her and give you guidance in some direction, 864 00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,920 Speaker 1: and you know, if you I can ask some questions. 865 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,200 Speaker 1: And it wasn't like it was nothing crazy. I could 866 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 1: have just asked the question. It was like, hey, this 867 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:49,799 Speaker 1: is what I think you should do or this is 868 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:53,080 Speaker 1: what I would do, and such such a mad respect. 869 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:54,759 Speaker 1: And I'm thankful he. 870 00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:58,040 Speaker 2: Had a Hello career man, I'm just a I'm a fan. 871 00:45:58,200 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 2: I thought I knew you, but I even know you 872 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:03,200 Speaker 2: more now, like I appreciate the story and you poorn 873 00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 2: in us and just I learned a little bit more 874 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:06,520 Speaker 2: about you. 875 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:08,960 Speaker 1: Well, just so you know, I got over fifteen thousand 876 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,919 Speaker 1: yards a total offense. I don't think people understand that, 877 00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 1: but I'm on a thirty seven year old shot of 878 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,160 Speaker 1: eleven thousand Russian. I just imagine if I could have 879 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 1: got some more carries. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. 880 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:24,759 Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, I'm not bitter at all if 881 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:31,360 Speaker 4: I keeping score. Yeah, I love that, ork Man. I'm 882 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,080 Speaker 4: so grateful to have you here. Man, I'm so grateful 883 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:35,560 Speaker 4: we got to spend this time with you and you 884 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:39,080 Speaker 4: coming back and checking on us. I really really enjoyed this, 885 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,680 Speaker 4: and this is gonna be a great episode. And me 886 00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 4: and Peanut talk about it all the time, how much 887 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,240 Speaker 4: we have thoroughly enjoyed, yes, getting to do this podcast 888 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,360 Speaker 4: because we get to talk to guys like you that 889 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,520 Speaker 4: we grew up watching, that we're huge fans of, and 890 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,080 Speaker 4: that literally when you come in here, you treat us 891 00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,000 Speaker 4: just like another younger brother, and you openly and honest 892 00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,000 Speaker 4: answer the all of our candid questions. You just shoot 893 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,400 Speaker 4: it to a straight and so many people love hearing 894 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,799 Speaker 4: your story. We've heard it from the outside and now 895 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:07,960 Speaker 4: you really get to pull it all back and get 896 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 4: it from the horse's mouth. Man, So really appreciate you. Man, 897 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,200 Speaker 4: You're an awesome human being and everything you represent. How 898 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:18,000 Speaker 4: the bad rouge, it's beautiful, it's big, raggedy, I call 899 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:19,239 Speaker 4: it red stick, whatever. 900 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:19,560 Speaker 3: You want to call it. 901 00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:21,440 Speaker 1: We call it the big raggedy big. 902 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,319 Speaker 3: Come on, man, you don't listen. Come on, I'm with it. Man. 903 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,920 Speaker 3: So I'm from Alabama. I don't claim bat rouge. No Louisiana. 904 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,759 Speaker 1: So this is the boot, just the boot. I'm from 905 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:32,399 Speaker 1: the boot. Like, where are you talking about? The boot? 906 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,400 Speaker 1: Louisiana looks like the boot. 907 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,200 Speaker 3: Just like a boot on the bottom. You know what 908 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,000 Speaker 3: I'm saying. 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