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Speaker 1: Welcome to episode two sixty seven. Thank you for being here.

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Speaker 1: Coming up, we'll do song wars Eddie comes in. We'll

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Speaker 1: do two songs with the exact same name, battling each other.

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Speaker 1: For example, crazy by Patsy Klein, Crazy for feeling so blue?

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Speaker 1: Or Narl's Barkley does that make me crazy? So it's

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Speaker 1: all those. It was really fun, a lot more fun

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Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna be. That's a might be

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Speaker 1: suggested segment that I think we'll do in a few weeks.

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Speaker 1: Let's do it again. You have a whole lot of

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Speaker 1: lest We could do. So many songs have the same name,

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Speaker 1: which is confusing whenever you get on a streaming site,

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Speaker 1: because if you were to stream and look up jump,

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Speaker 1: would they tell you criss Cross or van Halen first? Well,

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Speaker 1: let me look. I bet a lot of it's based

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Speaker 1: on what you already search. I typed and jump House

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Speaker 1: of Pain. Jump Around comes up first in mind, then

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Speaker 1: van Halen Jump, then third eye blind Jumper. I wish

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Speaker 1: you would step back from that edge, my friend, and

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Speaker 1: then jump from criss Cross at four. I wonder why

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Speaker 1: I guess jump around because I play in the dance

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Speaker 1: party sometimes and I searched for it to hear that

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Speaker 1: intro that big, So we'll do that. Coming up. I'm

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Speaker 1: a massive better than Ezra Fan Do we have any

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Speaker 1: clips on this computer? Kevin Griffin better than Ezra the

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Speaker 1: lead singer on nineties Alternative on Good, celebrating twenty five

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Speaker 1: years at number one, which they are one of my

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Speaker 1: favorite bands of all times, just because of when I

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Speaker 1: grew up they were somewhat close. This is it. It's

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Speaker 1: a little bit of good. We'll talk to him about

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Speaker 1: all the nineties nineties alternative. Here you go, well, maybe

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Speaker 1: I'm just too sure or maybe I'm just too frighten

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Speaker 1: by the sound. Here comes the chorus that you may

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Speaker 1: not know the words too. It's good. What's great about

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Speaker 1: that is that he tells the story about that coming up,

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Speaker 1: one of my favorite things to sing. He was like,

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Speaker 1: it's good, and I was like, wonder what that just

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Speaker 1: it's it's good. Also well. Talked to Kaylie Shore on

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Speaker 1: her new single and her podcast Let's Do New Music

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Speaker 1: This Week. These are my top five most excited about

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Speaker 1: new releases. At number five, our buddy Adam Hambrick has

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Speaker 1: two new songs. One of them is called Kill a Man.

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Speaker 1: But here is the longer I lay here featuring Gilly

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Speaker 1: and Jacqueline longer. Some are the reasons why to say,

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Speaker 1: hell make the most one time the world girl song song,

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Speaker 1: that good song, good anymore of that? How long does

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Speaker 1: that go? It was the whole way here. Let me

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Speaker 1: hear a little more. The more you kissed me, the

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Speaker 1: more set That guy's such a freaking good songwriter. And

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Speaker 1: I love Jillian Jacqueline to two of my favorite artists

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Speaker 1: and people. Whenever Kaylin and I got engaged, she sent

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Speaker 1: over some flowers, and but she sent it because we

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Speaker 1: left for our and at GEO show immediately after my

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Speaker 1: radio show on Friday, and so she sent it Friday

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Speaker 1: three days, which I was like, I just saw on

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Speaker 1: your Instagram that you left and Brian and I are

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Speaker 1: husband sent over some flowers for you guys. So we

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Speaker 1: got back and like half of them were still alive,

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Speaker 1: half of them and died. So I did answer my picture.

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Speaker 1: I just turned to the good side and I was like,

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Speaker 1: thank you Julian and Brian, But I love that Adam

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Speaker 1: Hambriks got a new song, the Longer I Lay Here

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Speaker 1: at number four. This week I'm putting Kaylee Shore. She

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Speaker 1: has a new song out called My Voice. We'll hear

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Speaker 1: from her later, but here's the clip of that sound

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Speaker 1: to Taky the one that the opta. That's pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: I like her so much because she just does her thing,

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Speaker 1: what works, what turns into humongous successes. Oh when people

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Speaker 1: number three. This is Chris Stapleton, and I see a

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Speaker 1: A new song out today called Arkansas Sorry, come on

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Speaker 1: Wicks here here he is. A new song called solid

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Speaker 1: Gold is my number two pick. Yes, so you were

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Speaker 1: old Lock Cony song twang of old Mr John is

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Speaker 1: so you can find it on now Speak of Town,

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Speaker 1: And my number one song is from Matt Carney. Huge

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Speaker 1: of the dates that took Caitlin on for Valentine's Day,

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Speaker 1: So they came in. We mildly hit it off. It's like, hey,

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Speaker 1: over to his show, caught the last four or five songs.

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Speaker 1: So I've loved this song for fifteen years. She loves

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Speaker 1: He's playing that song tomorrow. Well see he it's amazing.

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Speaker 1: So that being said, I love McCarney anyway, but he

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Speaker 1: has a new song out called Grand Canyon. Here you

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Speaker 1: go tell me, why tell me? How are you feeling?

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Speaker 1: Cam On stuck a mixed basive that's how you this song?

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Speaker 1: It's it's one song obviously from a new project, and

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Speaker 1: heavy elect electronic influence. Right, Yeah, I like this obviously.

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Speaker 1: play a clip of it. So Garth and Tricia did

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't say it's super relevant because the movie came

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Speaker 1: But it was so well received they're like, hey, let's

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Speaker 1: checked that out, and there's been a lot of versions

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Speaker 1: Luke Combs has the deluxe version of what you See

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Speaker 1: Ain't Always What You Get. It is five new songs

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Speaker 1: Maddie and Tay released an EP called We Need Christmas,

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Speaker 1: Mary Married Christmas. Also, Harper Gray has a new song

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Speaker 1: called Muddy Water. As far as new albums, Cadillac three

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Speaker 1: You Got a new one, Bruce Springsteen. Seven Dust. That's

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Speaker 1: a rock and roll freaking band, seven Dust. They scare

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Speaker 1: me a little bit. They're hard, right hard? Are they

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Speaker 1: not super hard to you? I wouldn't say super hard.

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Speaker 1: Pull up some old seven Dust, Like what's their biggest song?

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Speaker 1: The Gorillas have a new record, tied All the Sign

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Speaker 1: or tat was it t I don't know. Major Laser

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Speaker 1: It is that new though? Two thousand three. That's pretty hard.

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Speaker 1: oldly hard? When I think it's super hard, I think

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Speaker 1: of like you can't understand the lyrics. That's like scream

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Speaker 1: o death stuff. But this is hard, but the hard

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Speaker 1: like they actually sing okay, So I'm like a penal

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Speaker 1: for singing. What bring me? Some of the other songs

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Speaker 1: let me say I know anything Black, Dirty, Denial, Thank You, Decay,

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Speaker 1: there all the biggest We have the shortest song titles

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Speaker 1: have waffle, oh Bitch, interesting and face to face. Maybe

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Speaker 1: new music coming out this week, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: lengthy conversation with Tom Lord, who runs management there are

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Speaker 1: the Tom Lord episode up next week then to beat that.

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Speaker 1: Tom Lord works for Red Light Management and he is

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Speaker 1: The question is will carry win? I voted for Carry.

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Speaker 1: Jennifer Nettles was the recipient of the CMT Equal Play Award.

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Speaker 1: Blake Shelton did some stuff, Kane Brown, Sarah Hyland asking

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Speaker 1: The Grammy nominee announcement is November, so that's always pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: Gabby Barrett lands a first Hot A C number one,

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Speaker 1: Like old Gabby, We've done one of these with Gabby.

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Speaker 1: This is great for Pepsi because it doesn't like our show.

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Speaker 1: That's when the commercial is pretty cool. Paul McCartney's new album,

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Speaker 1: nothing extremely special about that, just yeah, just a bit odd,

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Speaker 1: Eddie vand Halen go to auction and once he died,

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Speaker 1: some pretty good money. All right, that's what's up. I

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Speaker 1: think you're gonna like this episode. You're gonna love the

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Speaker 1: music game, depending how much you love nineties nineties alternative.

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Speaker 1: I freaking geeked out on Kevin Griffin better than as.

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Speaker 1: I just love him so much, love the band so much.

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Speaker 1: And then hang out for Kayleie Shore. Next week we'll

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Speaker 1: we'll have Tom Lord on. We're now slowly starting to

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Speaker 1: check out Mike D's movie podcast. It's called Movie Mike's

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Speaker 1: Movie Podcast. What's Up this Week? I just had Jonathan

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Speaker 1: for Battle of the Songs with the same title. Eddie

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Speaker 1: Eddie is one of the three co hosts on that show.

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Speaker 1: Now we have twelve songs we're gonna do. This is

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Speaker 1: the Battle of Songs with the same title. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: start with Criss Cross versus Van Halen Jump Jump. Right

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Speaker 1: out in Jump from Criss Cross came out Eddie, Come on, man,

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Speaker 1: I grew up with mostly criss Cross. That was more

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Speaker 1: Azelia versus Reba Eddie? What song do you think that is? Fancy? Fancy?

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Speaker 1: Is correct? Reba ninety day? Here is Iggy Azelia Fancy

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Speaker 1: from Fancy? It's pretty easy one. I think. Oh, they're

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Speaker 1: It's not even closed Eddie. Which one do you pick? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: All right? Here is Lionel Richie, nicest, sweetest guy, just

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Speaker 1: one do you pick? All due respect to Lionel Ritchie,

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00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 1: I wasn't really alive or knowing if I was alive.

423
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,679
Speaker 1: Was four? You were alive? Okay, Well, I didn't really

424
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 1: know what was happening in music nineteen four, so that

425
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 1: wasn't part of my life. When Adele came out with Hello,

426
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 1: I think it was her second album, so she or

427
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 1: she had taken a break and came back with Hello,

428
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 1: and it was a big deal because to hear her

429
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 1: voice again and she was gonna keep doing music. So

430
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 1: I'm going with a dell dude. I'm picking Lionel Richie

431
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: because that song is still only commercials. It's been really

432
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 1: nine eight four and you still see a peanut commercial.

433
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 1: Hello Peanut. I love that. I listen. They're both great songs.

434
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,400
Speaker 1: That's you really can't argue that any of these songs suck.

435
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 1: But I'm going Lionel Ritchie just because it has stood

436
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 1: the test of time. And if I get to pick

437
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 1: wonderless two right now, I'm picking Linel Reggie. Mike, do

438
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 1: you're the tip in yeah, even though it wasn't alive.

439
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 1: I'll go line now, line um. Which one do you

440
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: think was the bigger head? Eddie Adele. Adele was number

441
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: one for seven weeks and Lionel was number one for

442
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 1: two weeks. So Adela is your winner? There? Girlfriend? Who

443
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: do you think sings a song called girlfriend? We have

444
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,640
Speaker 1: two artists, girlfriend, Can you give me the name? Any

445
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 1: of them? In sync featuring Nellie two thousand, two thousand two.

446
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 1: Here you go, Here's girlfriends if you were my girlfriend,

447
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 1: remember that, yes, of course? Or Avril Levine. Here's Avril

448
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 1: girlfriend general friends. You know this? No, I never heard

449
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 1: of Okay, it was easy for you, then go ahead

450
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 1: give me in sync. Yeah, me too. Although I liked

451
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: the April song, but that was the only one one

452
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 1: number one of those two Avril was that a single?

453
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 1: Was that a hit? Two thousand seven? Number one? So on, okay,

454
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 1: how about we have three people here. They don't have

455
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: the same title. The bands are Nickelback, The Baby and

456
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 1: post Malone. Oh what is this photograph? No, Nickelback, the

457
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 1: Baby and post Malone. I can't think of what's the circle? No, no, no,

458
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 1: got nothing? Rock Star rocks nickel Back two thousand seven?

459
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: Want to Baby rocks drop? Remember this, I'll have the

460
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: case of Dia. Wait, say say that song? That's funny?

461
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: Here is the Baby in this year? Just post Malone

462
00:27:56,000 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 1: from two thousand seventeen. Let rock Star? Oh my brother's

463
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: got that, guess and they always be smoking like a

464
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 1: rock stop. This sounds easy for me. I hate Nickelback

465
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: The Baby. That's a cool song, but I mean whatever, dude,

466
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 1: post Malone, this is a jam. That is a jam.

467
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: But I'm going Nickelback just because it's wrong with you.

468
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,239
Speaker 1: Nickel Back to great. He would just hate on him

469
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 1: for existences? What did he say? I know Mike's gonna

470
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,360
Speaker 1: tip this to post Malone because he's such a big

471
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: post all right, that's why I think you went nickelback.

472
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: You knew Mike was going. I think I went nickel

473
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: Back for the reason you don't go Nickelback. If I

474
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: got to pick one song to listen to those three

475
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 1: at right now, I probably picked Postmlone. But nobody ever

476
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: stands out for Nickelback, and you feel like you, Yeah,

477
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 1: somebody's got to be that voice. Nickelback versus Ed Shearon

478
00:28:55,800 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: nickel backs. And two of these Nickelback versus Ed Sheering

479
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: what song do they sing? That's the same photograph. That's correct,

480
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: here's Ed Sheeron. We keep this loving a photograph. We

481
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 1: made these memories for ourselves, were closing, and here is Nickelback.

482
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: Look at this photograph. I'm going to nickel Back twice

483
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: when what is that on Johnny's head? What the hell

484
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: is on Joey whatever? I'm going Nickelback, But this sucks

485
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: because I've never heard that Ed Sheerings. Well then you

486
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: got if you've never heard it, Come on, I've never

487
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: heard Edge Shearon's photograph. But there's no way I'm going

488
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: for Nickelback. That's my point, and that's why I just

489
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: stick up for Nickelback. And if that's on, came on

490
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: at a concert and they're playing it, or they're playing

491
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: it before a band comes on, you're gonna sing Look

492
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: at this phone, you're gonna sing it, Joey, alright, Mike,

493
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: you gonna swing it. You know what I'm going with.

494
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: If I heard the song on the radio, which one

495
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: I would keep on? And I would keep on the

496
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: nickel Backs nickel Back with a victory and grab money.

497
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: If we have a six more? You like this game,

498
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: that's a great game. F G l Okay, Justin Bieber Baby? No, No,

499
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 1: what's the one they spell Justin Bieber? Um does? Uh? Mike?

500
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: You know obviously Mike knows. Uh, they know? I mean, no, No,

501
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: what's the one they spell out? You know I'm talking about.

502
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the answer, so I don't know what

503
00:30:53,640 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: is it? Holy? Holy h Eli holy why holy mo? Okay?

504
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: Uh Florida Georgia line two thousand sixteen Here you go, which,

505
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: in an ironic twist of fate, was a Justin Bieber

506
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: song before he got rid of it. Wow, he took

507
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: it first cut it didn't put it out, so then

508
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: Florida Georgia Line got it second and cut it. A

509
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: great song by the way, Okay, Justin Bieber, this is

510
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: the song that's out right now here you go, Oh God,

511
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: line into the other like a track? Sta can we

512
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: end at the second? Ho me o me o, me

513
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: me home? He feels so holy. Chance the Rapper, that's

514
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: what he says. Like Chance comes on. He's like Chance

515
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: the Rapper and then Chance goes does this thing? Um eddie?

516
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,959
Speaker 1: Which one you picking? I'm going bibs a good song?

517
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: And they're both really good songs. And both those arts

518
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: get hit it on a little bit, but I don't

519
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: feel like they should. I they're both fantastic. But the

520
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: Justin Bieber Holy is really good, really good, and maybe

521
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: it's new and fresh. And I don't think I would

522
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: have been on it if Caitlin wasn't on it, but

523
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: she was, like, I put a new song, let's listen.

524
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: It's great. Yeah, my kids love it. Did it on

525
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: SNL It was really good? Oh they did? Yeah? Cool? Um,

526
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: how about this is gonna be a little tough ready

527
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: hot Chel Ray and Smashing Pumpkins. Tonight Yeah, right, tonight.

528
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: Tonight night tonight. So they're both tonight tonight. Wow, here

529
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: is Smashing Pumpkins, come on, and here is Hot Shell

530
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: Ray two thousand eleven. Okay, tonight. That's a good song.

531
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: Were you ever a Smashing Pumpkins kid? No, I mean

532
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: I listened to it because that's that was you know,

533
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: growing up. It was well everyone was listening to at

534
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: the time. Same. I was never a big Smashing Pumpkin

535
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: super fan. I like some of the songs bowel It

536
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: with Butterfly Wings, freaking awesome they had. They had songs

537
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: I liked, but I was never into just their vibe.

538
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: Is that despite all my rage, spite all my rage,

539
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: I am still just a rat in a cage. They have.

540
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: Smashing Pumpkins has a great library of songs. Yeah, they um,

541
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: today is the greatest day of even known because these

542
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: sings like nineteen seventy nine, this one, oh yeah, nineties

543
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: seven to Night. Yeah, that's good stuff. So oh, come on, okay,

544
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: it's very dramatic. This is Today's the greatest day of

545
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: my life. What's it called today? So I think he's

546
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: driving the ice cream truck in the video on this ONRN, Yeah,

547
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: I think so. And that kicks that. This story guitar

548
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: kicks in. That's a whole other episode. Good stuff, Um, Eddie,

549
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: which one you pick? Its Smashing Pumpkins or Hot Shell Ray.

550
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: I do like that Hot Shell Race song, but I

551
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: mean I gotta go Smashing Pumpkins. Yeah, I got Smashing

552
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: Pumpkins too. Play that from Smashing Momkins. You're a winner night, okay.

553
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: Nine of twelve Narls Barkley, Patsy Klein, Oh, good stuff

554
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 1: crazy Yeah, Patsy Cline crazy. I'm crazy for feeling lonely.

555
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 1: And what Eddie and I hope is that if you're

556
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: somewhere and they play this song, you just slide in.

557
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 1: The fun fact that Willie Nelson wrote it is out

558
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 1: of nowhere. But like, hey, obviously you know Willie Nelson

559
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: wrote this right, Yeah, you're not gonna do it. We're

560
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,879
Speaker 1: gonna do because we're gonna do everything. Every single time

561
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: we even had to find a creative I did do

562
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: it right then, and that's what we did. You know.

563
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: Willie wrote that one two thousand six. Narls bar Crazy

564
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: that jam. When I think in Darl's Barkley, I think

565
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 1: it's seeing them ad a c L festival right when

566
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:17,720
Speaker 1: this song have pop pretty big. It's easy right, easy

567
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:23,919
Speaker 1: as pie, go ahead, Yeah, Patsy Client still jam. People

568
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: are still inspired by her story, her music. What No.

569
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: I was just laughing because last night at the dinner table,

570
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: I was telling my kids that growing up, my dad

571
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: had this family friend. He'd come over once in a

572
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: while with a guitar and had a real thick Mexican accent,

573
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: like real thick, and he would sing crazy and he

574
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 1: would sing crazy. I'm grac and my kids love it

575
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: when I tell that story. Joe Nichols versus Usher, what

576
00:35:55,480 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: song sunny? And so I don't know he makes uh?

577
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: The song is called yeah, here is a Joe not

578
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: two thousand fourteen. I haven't thought about this song since

579
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: the day we stop playing it, I guess, and I

580
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: like Joe. This song has just left no impression on

581
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: me whatsoever. I think you could have me list every

582
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: country song I've ever heard of my life and this

583
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: song when to come up and not. I hate the song.

584
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: It just it just sounds like a the generic song

585
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 1: from that time. That's funny. Um and then ussure, yeah

586
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: two thousand four here you go that this was a

587
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: jam Eddie. Yeah, sure, Yeah, sure, sure, Okay, two more

588
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 1: DJ Sammy Kane Brown. Mm hmm uh. Let's see when

589
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: you figure out what the DJ Sammy song is, you're

590
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: gonna be like, oh, that's you may not even know

591
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: who that is. I don't know who DJ Sammy is

592
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: Kane Brown. Uh, what's the song reasn't da? What if

593
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: is that it isn't? Uh? Let's play the DJ Sammy

594
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 1: Heaven here you go? You know, yeah, but who's originally

595
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: it's who's that originally? It's not Yeah, that's a Sammy sample?

596
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure, Mike, we google that. I don't know

597
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: how are you gonna google that? But just what DJ

598
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 1: Sammy samples? What's on? Okay, that's what you You literally

599
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: google what you're asking. I'm the worth google and is

600
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 1: over on? Asked Jeeves, trying to find the exact way

601
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: to ask the fellow. Excuse me as Adams? Oh yeah,

602
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: that's right. Maybe, yeah, I even know that Sam and

603
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 1: Ray always things that when we used to do what

604
00:37:56,520 --> 00:38:01,479
Speaker 1: it's wrong with me? Um so DJ Sammy or Brian

605
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: Adams or Kane Brown. Here's Kane Brown Heaven, which was

606
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: a number one country song for him. Everybody's talking about

607
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 1: really just can't wait to go to jam. Do you

608
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: happen to have the Brian Adams Mike? Is it in

609
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: the system? Yeah? This song? So are you throwing Brian out?

610
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: We have to This is a jam and damn dude,

611
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: do you have Brandy? Would play this? And I would cry?

612
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,280
Speaker 1: You would you played? In sound text? Digging a bad

613
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: Jan Jan Jan? We have to pick that one, right?

614
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: Oh for sure, Mike, which one would you have picked?

615
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 1: I'd probably got Kane Brown. Yeah, you can't ta a

616
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: good version? All those are good. Okay, here's your last

617
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:54,720
Speaker 1: one forever from Chris Brown or Jesse and the Rippers.

618
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: That's Chris Brown, which, by the way, that's a good

619
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: song and they use it in the office when they're

620
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,879
Speaker 1: going down the aisle when Jim and Pama getting married

621
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 1: makes it really makes me emotional. And then Jesse and

622
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: the Rippers, which they reached number one in Japan on

623
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: full House. Here you go, the choir comes into the church.

624
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: They met him on the They got a bus ride

625
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: to the because he went skydiving, landed in the tomato tree,

626
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 1: tomatoes grown, whatever tree it was, and there's oranges got

627
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 1: stuck in it. Farmer maybe apple cuts him down. He

628
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: gets cuts down, lands in the thing they drive him to.

629
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: It gets there in time, sets at the piano, peels

630
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: off his his overalls and he's playing in the church

631
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: and the bus that picks him up. All the gospel

632
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: singers get down and sing. It's perfect, fantastic, fantastic. It's

633
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: um if. Yeah. I mean this is one of Caitlin

634
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: and his favorite songs together period, because we love it

635
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 1: so much. It's um if everywhere what I say could

636
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: make you laugh. I talk forever. Uh are the words there?

637
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: I asked the sky just what they song? They said, forever?

638
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, jamn forever never, Yes, yeah, um, they're both great.

639
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Eddie Jessing the Rippers for sure. Yeah. And

640
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: did you know that's not actually Jessing. The rubber song

641
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: isn't that's not Jesse singing. It is John Samuel singing

642
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: that version. But the original song is a Beach Boys

643
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: song and it's freaking fantastic. Is it called forever? That's

644
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 1: the cover because you know in Full House he played

645
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: drumps for the Beach Boys. In real life he plays

646
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 1: jumps with the beach I saw them like a few

647
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: years ago. He was playing drums with the Beach Boys

648
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: playing from my phone. The Beach Boys, I love it, dude.

649
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 1: Old beach Boys would make Scott great. Huh great music? Lesson,

650
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 1: I have no idea of beach Boys. Yeah, I mean

651
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: you can tell from the writing. It's like, oh, it

652
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 1: does sound beach boyish, but now it makes sense. And

653
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 1: it was such a great song on Full House. I

654
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: was like, man, they were a freaking great song for

655
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: Jesse Kop because Fat Fish Records was his record label.

656
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: They called him and said, Jesse, the song has gone

657
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: number one in Japan and so they wanted him to

658
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 1: travel there for two weeks. He takes the offer, so

659
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: they go. And I went to Japan because of that,

660
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: because Jesse went because in my life, having absolutely no

661
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: money in until I got to be an adult, I

662
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 1: never went anywhere we couldn't afford it. I never went

663
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 1: on a vacation as a kid. So when I started

664
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: to have to find things to do, I went to

665
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: Hawaii because of the break and I went to London

666
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: because friends they go to London, they do. That's where

667
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: Monic and Chandler hook up for the first time. I

668
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 1: went to Japan because a full House I think that

669
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: probably what was Iceland. I just thought it was cool.

670
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 1: I went to some because it was actually closer than

671
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 1: I thought it was because I had been to Europe,

672
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: just pretty new to traveling, and I was like, man,

673
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 1: that's like nine hours across the ocean. But I still

674
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: was like up and not all the way there, and

675
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: so I just googled it. I was like, Okay, here

676
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,479
Speaker 1: we go. And Norway because you had to Norway because

677
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 1: Barrett girls said let's go right in Australia because Nikita

678
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: lives in Australia and in Christmas time it was warm

679
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 1: over there and I don't have any family here to

680
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 1: spend Christmas with. So I went to Australia for that.

681
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 1: If I've been anywhere else, and every state except for

682
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: Maine in Alaska pretty well traveled now now for someone

683
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: who went to know where ever, I went to Ireland

684
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: about myself. Ireland? What was that for you? Two? No,

685
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: it was Garth and Ireland the concept set shirt I'll

686
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: see sometimes happened, Um, I don't. It's close. It was

687
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,240
Speaker 1: the closest European country as you can see. I'm pretty

688
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: lazy when it comes to traveling far. And I did

689
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,280
Speaker 1: nothing but stay on a little bust. I'm by myself

690
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 1: and just wrote and then um, I went looked at

691
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,439
Speaker 1: one thing to day. It pretty boring for me because

692
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 1: it's drinking is such a big deal there, that's part

693
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: of who they are, and I don't. So I got

694
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: over there and I was like, what the crap? And

695
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: I was like, I'll just take a train and go

696
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: somewhere else in Europe and except it's an island and

697
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: there are no trains they go out of Europe and

698
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: are they go out of Ireland? And the other thing

699
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 1: was it was the other thing that I learned while

700
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 1: I was there, Oh, Ireland is the size of Iowa,

701
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: basically the entire country. If that gives you perspective on

702
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: what that is, Yeah, not very big, like I don't know,

703
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: wand be one of our small states in America. Well

704
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: there you have it is that. It was that the

705
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: end that was it might do a great job with

706
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: game coming up with this game. There are a lot

707
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: more than I thought. Yeah, you know, I mentioned a

708
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 1: podcast I have nothing to do with. It's from the

709
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: Ringer and I've only listened to one episode. They'll only

710
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:28,399
Speaker 1: put one out and they're going through songs that meant,

711
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: And they just did one on Atlantis moreri Set You

712
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: Ought to Know, and they talked about the whole story

713
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: of the song is pretty much. It's pretty pretty good podcast.

714
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: So they take a song and then kind of break

715
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: it down. That's really cool, but not just about the

716
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 1: words of the song. What was happening around that time.

717
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: It's pretty cool podcast. And I'm sure the name of it,

718
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 1: but that's what I'm listening to, right And then at

719
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: the end they have it on whatever platform you're listening to.

720
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: They have it connected to the stream, so as soon

721
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: as the podcast over goes right into the song. Yeah,

722
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: so all right, that's what's up, um, Eddie the Sore Losers.

723
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,280
Speaker 1: Why should people listen to this Sore Losers because it's funny.

724
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 1: We're just three guys. We talked about sports, yes, but

725
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 1: then we talked about our lives and I think we

726
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: all just live very different lives. So it's very entertaining.

727
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: Please give us a listen Sore Losers podcasts. There you go,

728
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: the Sore Losers podcast. Get it. Thank you Eddie, Thank

729
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: you man. That was fun. All with us right now?

730
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: Is Kevin Griffin better than Ezra as Good celebrates its

731
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: twenty five year anniversary of going number one. Holy crap, Hey, Kevin,

732
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: how are you? God? It feels so good to hear

733
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 1: your voice. You know the same to you, my friend,

734
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: And I tell you. The great thing for me is

735
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 1: whenever I'm doing like this interview here, I get to

736
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: really focus on and I get to geek out on

737
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: a guy that I know in real life and wouldn't

738
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: geek out on in real life because I don't want

739
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: to be a loser, but right now I get to

740
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: go full loser, and it's it feels great. Yes, So

741
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: I'm see I have those guys too, and you you are.

742
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 1: Let's be honest, You're one of them for me, Bobby,

743
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 1: And I'm so happy that I get to be that

744
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: guy for you as well. I see and and this

745
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: isn't on the sheet and we'll get I want to

746
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: get too good. And I have so much to talk about.

747
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 1: But the band that you do with Mark McGrath and

748
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: uh Emmerson from Tonic, right, like those guys when you

749
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 1: get together, are you also not? Are you? Like? Man,

750
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: we have such a bond because we all kind of

751
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: went through the same thing at the same time. Like

752
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 1: what are those rooms? Like so so we have so

753
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 1: we have a band called Ezra ray Heart, a nineties

754
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 1: nineties juggernaut. Uh that that's with Emerson or from Tonic

755
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 1: and Mark McGrath and Figure A and we we have

756
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: so much fun because we have so many of the

757
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: same stories, um, from the from those years where just

758
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: the stupidity, the decadence, uh all the nineties here, you

759
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 1: know what they say, you know, I think it was

760
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: that meme the nineties the greatest decade ever and no evidence.

761
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: So we kind of uh we we have a good

762
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,240
Speaker 1: time better than Ezra, one of my top five favorite

763
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: bands on my lifetime even still today. Uh, you guys

764
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: formed in you formed the band. Where were you in

765
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 1: your life? Like what was your long term future in

766
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: your mind? In whenever you you get the guys together,

767
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: oh eight. You know, I was a sophomore at l

768
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: s U. I'd always been in bands, you know, but

769
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,919
Speaker 1: but at that time, you know, there there was really

770
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: the promise of massive you know success. You you wanted

771
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: to just be you wanted to just be a band

772
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: and tour. But do you also saw that brass ring,

773
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 1: you know with crazy sales of albums and stuff like

774
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,919
Speaker 1: it was back in the day, so it was really

775
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 1: kind of the world was our oyster and we had

776
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: our first rehearsals. We we moved it to Boston that

777
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: summer and started playing shows, and we we played shows

778
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: with the Pixies and Extreme um Mission of Burma, all

779
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: these all these seminal bands. Uh, but it was a

780
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 1: great time, man, and we just got in our van

781
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 1: and we we earned it for seven years. It took

782
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: seven years before Delex came out. What about better than

783
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: Ezra work that all the other bands didn't um It's

784
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 1: such a cliche, and I know you can identify with this.

785
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: It's perseverance, it's it's you hear it. But the reason

786
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: our band is we're having this conversation right now, is

787
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 1: that we just didn't quit. Because there were other bands,

788
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 1: honestly that were maybe had a better stage show, they

789
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: had maybe better songs. But what separated us from them

790
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: is that we just never quit. You know, our business

791
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 1: is a business of knows as as you as you

792
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: know and uh, and all you need is one yet

793
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,399
Speaker 1: in this business, and then it opened all those doors

794
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 1: and we just never quit. And I always just had

795
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 1: my high on the prize. So it took we We

796
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: toured for seven years and our beat up eighty eight

797
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: dram vand all throughout the Southeast, playing every college bar

798
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: from Tuscaloosa to Athens to Old Miss Oxford, you know,

799
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: and we just kept going. And finally, you know, things

800
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: shifted and and grunge and was starting to fade, and

801
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 1: commercial all turn into was starting to happen, and suddenly

802
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 1: the band the labels passed on that as Ezra. Suddenly

803
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 1: we were the hot band. Uh that march at south

804
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 1: By Southwest down Austin and and the rest is rock

805
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 1: and roll history. I'm gonna play a song and just

806
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 1: went twenty five years. That's crazy at number one. Here's goods.

807
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: So when you're in a room, are you going, all right,

808
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: Let's make a song that no one will know the

809
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: lyrics to it all we sing it and everybody sings

810
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: it wrong for twenty five years. But the funny thing

811
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 1: is man. So we we had a show coming up.

812
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: You remember this band called Boy Dog Pondering. They were

813
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 1: an Austin band that had minimal college success back in

814
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: like the early nineties. We had a show opening for them,

815
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: and I wanted to get some more songs together, some

816
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,240
Speaker 1: more Originals because we were still playing like half covers,

817
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: uh and half originals. And so I sat down and

818
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 1: I was like, I want to write a song like

819
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: the Pixies meets R. E. M. With the same four

820
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: chords happening over and over again. And so I started

821
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: writing good and then the key to a nineties song,

822
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: which you had to add the seventh you had to

823
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: at the end of the chord progression, you had to

824
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 1: add a major seventh chord. In this instant, it's a

825
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,240
Speaker 1: C seventh, which gives it the rock and roll screaming

826
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 1: trees found, you know, and and the whole hook of

827
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: the song, the wat that was supposed to be lyrics,

828
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: but the but the show happened. The show happened, and

829
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: I had no lyrics. So I got up on day

830
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: to just just winged it and went on huh. And

831
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 1: people loved it. I mean, the the response from people

832
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: with that one song compared to the rest of all

833
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 1: the songs was so palpable, indifferent. We knew we had

834
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: lightning in a bottle, and so I was like, I'm

835
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: not gonna screw with this. This is got some kind

836
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 1: of thing. And then if you listen to other songs

837
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:05,280
Speaker 1: I've written afterwards, there's always some kind of non lyrical

838
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 1: woix or what oh, something like that, because it was

839
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 1: a it was definitely an epiphany for me. What's it

840
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 1: like being a you know, a guy that's in the

841
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: middle of college, a sophomore at l s U. You're

842
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: grinding it out, and you start, after so much hard work,

843
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 1: you start to get some of that that national exposure

844
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 1: in the rocket starts to take off. Like are you

845
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,439
Speaker 1: able to kind of differentiate the difference in the hard,

846
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 1: crazy work and the cool things you're getting to do

847
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 1: or does it just still feel like you're in the

848
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 1: same rotating cycle of planning shows. Um, when you're in it,

849
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: you don't really have the perspective that I do now,

850
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: like seeing that how things were going off, I was

851
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: still you know, I worked with a lot of young

852
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: artists and bands now, and a lot of have a

853
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: singular focus that I'm doing music, this is my future.

854
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: But I was always I always had uncertainty, you know.

855
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 1: I always wanted to Safety Net, so I was gonna

856
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,800
Speaker 1: go to I was gonna while while the band was

857
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: while we're playing sold off shows all throughout the South

858
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: and going up to play sister Rose with Uncle Tupelo

859
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 1: and which was the band before uh wilco Um. I was.

860
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,320
Speaker 1: I was filling out my my law school applications, so

861
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: I was gonna go to law school if music didn't

862
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 1: work out, and I was like, I'll be an agent

863
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: out in l A. And so I was always kind

864
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 1: of torn um. But but but when you're in the

865
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: when you're in the midst of it, you don't really

866
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 1: know how special it is, and and there's crazy things

867
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: that are happening. But man, you know, those were such

868
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 1: great times, an innocent times. You're kind of like a

869
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 1: kind of like a pirate, you know, in a touring van.

870
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: You know, it's you have no place to sleep. You know,

871
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: halfway through your shows, you're always like, hey, anybody got

872
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: anybody got a place? Versus crash that's a whole separate podcast.

873
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: That's a whole separate podcast. The places and we found

874
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: ourselves the band houses. I mean, you needed a Technis

875
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 1: shot when you leave these places. Yeah. The other day

876
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: I was listening to a radio station. They were like, hey,

877
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:06,359
Speaker 1: classic rock and then good came on right, so here

878
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: you go, Well, how do you feel about better than

879
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 1: as been playing on Classic rock. I'm thankful, man, Yeah,

880
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 1: you know, and somebody was somebody sent me a Spotify

881
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 1: oldies playlists and it was it was Us and Nirvana

882
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: and Faith No More. It was crazy. Uh. But you know, man,

883
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: you know, it's so hard to have a a career

884
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: with any longevity. Man, And I'm so grateful, uh to

885
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: still be doing it and the things I loved, you know,

886
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: from from second grade, you know. So it's all good

887
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: before I come unintended, Yeah, before I get through some

888
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 1: of the songs that that that I loved and tell

889
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 1: a personal story from back when I was like nineteen. Um,

890
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: you guys, put out in your eyes, um, which is

891
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 1: the first new music in two years. It's a Peter

892
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: Gabriel cover. I want to play. Let's let's play better

893
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: than version. Here we go. I am Kevin. Why did

894
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: you choose this song to do? Man? I've got such

895
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: a connection with that song. It was my first serious

896
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 1: love in college. Uh that this was my song that

897
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: when I listened to it, I saw us together and

898
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 1: when Lloyd Gobbler hoisted that boom box over his head

899
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:30,320
Speaker 1: and say anything, that was me, you know. And so

900
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 1: it speaks to me in in in memories, but also

901
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 1: the lyrics, in the vibe, in the emotion um is

902
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 1: really relevant today for people feeling disconnected because of COVID

903
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,919
Speaker 1: and where we are. And it's just a hopeful song.

904
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 1: It's spiritual in a way, um without being you know,

905
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 1: too on the nose, and it just and it felt,

906
00:54:56,560 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 1: it felt right on. And also I liked Wheezers very

907
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: fateful cover of Africa, and I was like, oh, I'm

908
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: gonna go full on within your eyes. I'm not going

909
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: to do a sensitive, pensive singer songwriter cover. We're gonna

910
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 1: go full out. And and that's Aaron Sterling on drums,

911
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,320
Speaker 1: who's John Mayer's drummer, Kristin Rodgers, who's one of the

912
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: best singers in Nashville doing the BBS. So we went

913
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 1: for it. You know, back in the nineties, your first

914
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,720
Speaker 1: TV performance, I gotta imagine because there weren't ten thousand

915
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: places to play there, you know, there wasn't all this

916
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 1: content you could just do. How cool is that? And

917
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 1: do you remember your first TV performance in the nineties?

918
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:38,919
Speaker 1: The first TV show, like legit was the John Stewart Show.

919
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 1: That Stewart Huh, yeah, there was. It was before the

920
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 1: Daily Show. John Stewart had this hipster uber hipster uh

921
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 1: late night talk show. And then of course I think

922
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 1: the next one we did was Conan. Then we did

923
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 1: Leno a lot, Leno doug Us. The weird thing that

924
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 1: was Leno would always come into your dress sing room

925
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 1: and he was always wearing a denim shirt unbuttoned two

926
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: a belly button and it was always uncomfortable because my

927
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 1: eyes it was like it was it struggled. Do I

928
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 1: look at him in the eyes or do I look

929
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:14,720
Speaker 1: at it a stomach? Did you guys ever play Letterman?

930
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 1: We did do Letterman. We did Letterman twice. And what

931
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 1: most people would tell you, and I can uh validate this,

932
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 1: is that it was like a meat locker in there,

933
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 1: like two degrees? Did you do it? Did you ever

934
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 1: do it? No? I didn't do I went He's my hero,

935
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,320
Speaker 1: like my life heroes are Letterman and Howard Stern and

936
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 1: so I never I went to the show and got

937
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 1: to watch it, and it was I was freezing my

938
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 1: balls off just being in there. Oh yeah, it's and

939
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,800
Speaker 1: and so imagine you know when you do when you

940
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 1: do these shows, you're nervous, right, so when you combine

941
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 1: nervousness and sub zero temperatures. Your you know, your your

942
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:58,320
Speaker 1: hands don't really work, so I performing there was always

943
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 1: a challenge for me, you know me growing up in Arkansas,

944
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 1: you know, central in South Arkansas. I always felt like

945
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,879
Speaker 1: you guys were pretty local because you were always proud

946
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:12,359
Speaker 1: of your Louisiana roots, and you guys were touring through

947
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 1: my my area a lot, which is one of the

948
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: reasons that you became one of my favorite bands. First

949
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 1: of all, I was nineties country, nineties alternative kids both,

950
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 1: you know, to my core. And did you feel like

951
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: and I started thinking back as to why I felt

952
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 1: like maybe you guys were very close to me personally,

953
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 1: did you feel like, I know there was punk roots,

954
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 1: the alternative roots, but did you feel like there's any

955
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 1: country influence in what you guys were doing? Man? You know, first,

956
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 1: it's kind of a two part. So you grew were

957
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 1: you in Little Rock? I was, I mean near Little

958
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 1: Rock on and off my whole life, right, So did

959
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 1: you ever see us as sister? I saw you there

960
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 1: and and once my favorite better than ever story, when

961
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 1: I was nineteen years old, I saw you guys in Fayette,

962
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 1: Arkansas and it was a small club, and I was like, wow,

963
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 1: this is crazy. Umm. I is right up near the

964
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 1: stage and at the end of the show, you said,

965
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 1: does anybody know this time of year? And you were like,

966
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: somebody could come up and you would let them play

967
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 1: it on guitar, And so I raised my hand and

968
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 1: I got up on stage. The thing is, the thing

969
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: is I'm left handed and can't play a right handed guitar. No,

970
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 1: So I was like, um, left handed, so I still

971
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 1: sang the song as someone else played the guitar. So

972
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: I sang on stage at your show when I was

973
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: nineteen years old. Dude. I love that story and and

974
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 1: it's such a great thing that people come up to

975
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 1: me now and say, Dude, I played on stage with

976
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 1: you in Philadelphia or Seattle. And and truth be told,

977
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 1: we got that. We got that trick from YouTube because

978
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 1: I saw them in eight at the Pete Mere Bitch

979
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 1: Assembly Center in l s U. And during stand by

980
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 1: Me their cover, they always got somebody else to come

981
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 1: play guitar, and I was like, that's awesome, but wait

982
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 1: to get to finish your to your question. Um, country music,

983
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 1: you know that was always in my house, but it

984
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 1: was old school, like Charlie Pride, Uh, George Straight, Willie Nelson, Uh,

985
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 1: who else? Waylon Jennings. That's what my dad listened to.

986
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 1: So I think there's always loved the narrative aspect of

987
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 1: uh country music. You know, the stories are told and stuff,

988
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 1: And I like to think that's always been in my songs,

989
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 1: with songs like Lifetime and Our Last Night and stuff

990
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 1: like that. So good. It's in the blood as well.

991
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 1: This is deluxe play a little bit in the blood, Rosalie.

992
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 1: Let's play a little bit Rosalie Heresie. So listen, all

993
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 1: these songs just take me to a place right Well,

994
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 1: then here we go. It's desperately wanting hits and I'm like,

995
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 1: they changed my life again with this song. This was

996
00:59:57,080 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 1: it felt like to me. If don't like it was

997
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 1: where a band like Stabbing Westward got their their groove, Like,

998
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 1: I feel like this song kind of personify what other

999
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 1: bands were going for there, because it felt like a

1000
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 1: bit of a bit of a change for you guys

1001
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 1: talk about that period it was. It's such a clusche.

1002
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: Now a band had success on the first album and

1003
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 1: the first thing they say about their next album is, well,

1004
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 1: this one's a little harder than the earlier stuff. You know,

1005
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 1: it's a little a little more rough, rough edge, And

1006
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 1: we were that the same way. You know, I think

1007
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 1: we're listening to heavier music. Um that we didn't and

1008
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 1: we didn't want to seem to pop and and you

1009
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 1: can hear that in the Friction Baby album. Uh we

1010
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:46,919
Speaker 1: we did that record at daniel an was studio down

1011
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 1: in New Orleans, in New Orleans, right in the French

1012
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 1: quarters called Kingsway Studio, I mean Pearl Jam, You two R. E. M.

1013
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 1: Did seminal albums down there in this amazing haunted studio,

1014
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 1: and so Friction Baby, definitely Wanting was born out of

1015
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 1: that and desperately Wanting. The interesting thing about desperately Wanting

1016
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 1: is the original chorus is now the is the bridge

1017
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 1: of that song. And I realized and it was a

1018
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 1: key change, and I was like, oh, this is a

1019
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 1: terrible song. So so let's make that the bridge and

1020
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 1: then you write a better chorus. And I remember exactly

1021
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 1: where I was some of my best songs. I remember

1022
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 1: where I was when I wrote it, and I was

1023
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 1: sitting on my couch in my bedroom in the garden,

1024
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 1: just supree, New Orleans. On this rainy Sunday, and I

1025
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 1: was like, well, maybe if I speed up the delivery

1026
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 1: of the lyrics on this chorus, it'll make it feel different.

1027
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 1: Because all all my all my favorite songs that I've

1028
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 1: written are the same chords, you know, verse, chorus, you know,

1029
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 1: And that's that's always the hallmark to me of a

1030
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 1: great song. You don't have to do any big transitions,

1031
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 1: just with a switch and melody. Um the song feels

1032
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 1: like it lips and falls and in the way it's

1033
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:58,919
Speaker 1: supposed to. And that's what desperately wanting was. And I'm

1034
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 1: so glad you dig that. And let me say something, dude,

1035
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 1: I'm a fan of what you do, all the work

1036
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 1: you do, and so to have you say you're a

1037
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 1: fan of that music and that it's the biggest prop

1038
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 1: anybody can give your music is that it reminds them

1039
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:15,920
Speaker 1: of a time in their life. You know, it's a

1040
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 1: soundtrack to a certain point in their life. Because I'm

1041
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 1: the same way. So it's very cool that you feel

1042
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 1: that way. You know. Again, when I was nineteen, I

1043
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 1: played with them, and then a few years ago, you

1044
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 1: guys at my show, you came and played in the

1045
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 1: two songs I was like, hey, we played good, and

1046
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 1: we played desperately wanting and it was the highlight of

1047
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 1: my night. And I I gotta play with everybody. Kith

1048
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:37,439
Speaker 1: Throwing came up and played. But being able to play

1049
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 1: those two songs because again, it just takes you back

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01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 1: to a certain place. There are certain songs or sounds

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01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 1: or video games that you remember exactly where you were

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01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 1: and what your goals and your dreams were. And you, guys,

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01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 1: and you were a big part of that for me,

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01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 1: Um early on. So so it's been really cool to

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01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 1: talk with you about that. I do want to mention

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01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 1: this too, though, that these are other songs that Kevin's

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01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 1: written with four other artists here, Howie Day Collide Somehow?

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01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 1: Was that the first cut that you got that was

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01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 1: big from somebody that wasn't you? You know, this is

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01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 1: a great story. The first cover I ever had, our

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01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 1: first co write I ever had was with meat Loaf

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01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 1: where It's just crazy. So two thousand one, I was

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01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 1: recording an album at a uh Conway Studios in Los Angeles,

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01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 1: this amazing three studio complex in the heart of l

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01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 1: A and Jane's addiction saying about it, and Jane says,

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01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 1: Um anyhow, but justin timber Lake was in one studio,

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01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 1: Better Nazer was in the middle studio and Mr meat

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01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 1: Loaf was in the next one and long stories. I

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01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 1: wrote this song with him called Testify, which was a

1070
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 1: seven minute long opus about a truck driver on speed.

1071
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:02,920
Speaker 1: Truck breaks down and he stumbles into a tent side revival.

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01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 1: You should listen to it if you want. If you

1073
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 1: want to see an exercise and bad taste, google our

1074
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 1: YouTube meat Loaf Testify Sydney Opera House and it's a

1075
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 1: spectacle that you want to take a shower, but but

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01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 1: but then but anyways, the guy that managed meat Loaf

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01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 1: also managed Blondie and the b G so I wrote.

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01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 1: I wrote a single for Blondie. I wrote a song

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01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 1: with Barry Gibb that was terrible and never got released,

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01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 1: but that opened my eyes to co writing. And then

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01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 1: suddenly other younger artists like how we were coming to

1082
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 1: me and and Uh wanted me to write with him

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01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 1: because they were influenced. So that kind of started me.

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01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 1: But meet Love started the co writing. That's funny. Sugar

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01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 1: Land stuck like Glue wrote this one too, Beat again,

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01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 1: Beat again, Beat again, and then James Blunt. I'll be

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01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 1: your man is not the one? Are you still writing

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01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 1: three or four times a week? What's the deal now, Kevin?

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01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, man, I'm riding with different bands.

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01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:07,920
Speaker 1: I've just just written some songs with the Strut and

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01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 1: the band called the Record Company, got some cool stuff

1092
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 1: coming out with them, and uh three three, three to

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01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 1: five times a week. Well hope everybody checks out. In

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01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 1: your eyes the new one from Better Than as a

1095
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 1: Peter Gabriel cover, but such a good version. Um. I

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01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 1: still live on Deluxe. There's probably once every couple of months,

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01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 1: I go back and just take the whole thing in.

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01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 1: I find now, even though my job is to at

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01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 1: times find new music, what makes me feel most comfortable

1100
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 1: as I get older now is just going to the

1101
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 1: music that I loved as a kid. So it's better

1102
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 1: than Ezra John mayor counting crows. Um, isn't it funny?

1103
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 1: Like like when you you have some notes in your house?

1104
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 1: I do, Okay? What is your Sunday morning? What is

1105
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 1: your go to artists radio? Um? I'll play uh acoustic nineties.

1106
01:05:55,520 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 1: Oh that's good, that's mine mine is I'll do remember that?

1107
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 1: Dan Travis, Oh yeah, why does it always rain on

1108
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 1: me seeing Yeah do me, so do Travis Radio. Cure

1109
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 1: Radio is great, but my go to might be Van

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01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 1: Mortson Radio for that sultry romantic Sunday morning. Next time

1111
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:19,919
Speaker 1: I need to be sultry and or romantic, I'm gonna

1112
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 1: check it out and think of Kevin Will I always do.

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01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:26,440
Speaker 1: At Kevin M Griffin on Instagram at we are better

1114
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 1: than Ezra on Instagram. Congratulations twenty years ago. Man. Just

1115
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 1: to be able to last and to be able to

1116
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 1: talk about it has got to be really cool. I

1117
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 1: appreciate the time, and as always I'm a massive fan.

1118
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:37,439
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see in Roll life again. Dude,

1119
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 1: Right back at your bobby A right there, Kevin, Kaylee,

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01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 1: how are you? I'm good? How are you guys? Really good?

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01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 1: On with us right now? Is kayleie sure? Who's got

1122
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 1: a new song out today that is called My Voice?

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01:06:50,000 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 1: Here you go with play cliph it for you? Yeah?

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01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 1: So Kaylee with this song now? Is this part of

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01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 1: your new relationship as you have a new record deal. Yeah, yeah,

1126
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:28,280
Speaker 1: it's my first, Um, it's my first release with them.

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01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 1: It's gonna be pretty exciting. Then they have to be

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01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 1: very excited about this too, right. Oh yeah, I mean,

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01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 1: I you know, I really didn't think this song was

1130
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 1: going to get released because of how I don't know,

1131
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 1: it's kind of it's pretty out there as far as

1132
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 1: you know um topics for songs go. It's about the

1133
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 1: music industry, and so I didn't think that a label

1134
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:47,920
Speaker 1: would would like it. And I played it for them

1135
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 1: and they were all totally obsessed and championed the song

1136
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 1: from the very beginning, which was a good sign that

1137
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 1: I was in the right place. So my voice is

1138
01:07:55,160 --> 01:08:00,959
Speaker 1: about your voice in the industry, doing what, saying what? Well,

1139
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:03,960
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you have definitely talked about it

1140
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 1: a lot, but like, you know, the problem with being

1141
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 1: a woman in country or the not the problem with

1142
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:12,439
Speaker 1: being one, but you know, for the past decade it's

1143
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 1: been really hard for women to be heard in Nashville,

1144
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 1: and you know, we're finally seeing things move. But I mean,

1145
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 1: I think for a while I would go into these

1146
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 1: meetings and it was like I already had a strike

1147
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:22,720
Speaker 1: against me just because I was a girl, and I

1148
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, well I can't change that, and it

1149
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:28,680
Speaker 1: wouldn't like I never want to come from that at

1150
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 1: like as from a perspective of being whiny because it

1151
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 1: just like irritated me. Like I wasn't like, oh I

1152
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 1: want to like be part of this game. I was like, Okay,

1153
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:40,960
Speaker 1: well that's just rude. Let's let's find a way around it.

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01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:44,000
Speaker 1: So that's always been my approach, and um, you know,

1155
01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 1: especially like I have a lot of rock influence in

1156
01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:48,639
Speaker 1: my music. Like my first two bands that I played

1157
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:51,800
Speaker 1: in middle school was I played in a Nirvanic cover band,

1158
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 1: and then I was in a bluegrass band, And the

1159
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 1: song really encapsulates all of that. But I think for

1160
01:08:57,360 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 1: a while too, people would tell me that I was

1161
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 1: a country enough. I couldn't like have an electric guitar

1162
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 1: and a song because it made it sound too rock.

1163
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 1: And the song is about me just owning my perspective,

1164
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 1: my sound, who I am, and you know, not being

1165
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 1: afraid of it. You know, there's another song that comes

1166
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 1: to mind, and it sounds sonically nothing like your song,

1167
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:19,600
Speaker 1: but when you go, you know, this is a perspective

1168
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 1: that I didn't think a record label would would take

1169
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 1: and promote because of what it's saying. When I think

1170
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:27,800
Speaker 1: of that, I think is Sarah Burrelli's love song I

1171
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:29,560
Speaker 1: don't want to write you a love song, because that

1172
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:32,320
Speaker 1: was about her record label saying, hey, you need to

1173
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 1: write a love song and she's like, I don't want

1174
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:38,559
Speaker 1: to write you a love song. And people had interpreted

1175
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:40,720
Speaker 1: that in many ways like it was an actual song

1176
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 1: toward a person where she's like, I don't want to

1177
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:43,719
Speaker 1: write you a love song, but it was actually towards

1178
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 1: the record label. I think went to be a number

1179
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 1: one song. Yeah, so cool. I mean I love that

1180
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:52,680
Speaker 1: story about that song and I think it's super relatable. So,

1181
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:56,080
Speaker 1: by the way, Kaylee has a podcast that is called

1182
01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 1: Too Much to Say with Kaylee Shore, and one of

1183
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 1: your last episodes too, you talked about because this is

1184
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 1: gonna be on your deluxe record, right, Yes, it's called

1185
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 1: open Book Unabridged, so open Book. It came out about

1186
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 1: a year ago, and you spend one of your podcasts

1187
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:14,760
Speaker 1: talking about the process with that record. Yeah, like an

1188
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 1: entire episode. What like, give me a couple of things

1189
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 1: that would be interesting to me to hear. Well, I

1190
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 1: did it all in a one room studio upstairs from

1191
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 1: an office on music Row with my producer Um. The

1192
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 1: two of us played almost all the instruments his like

1193
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:34,719
Speaker 1: twenty year old Son played drums. Members of my live band,

1194
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 1: actually Natalie So've all played siddle um Stevie Wood were

1195
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:41,000
Speaker 1: played harmonica. It was just like a bunch of friends

1196
01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:45,040
Speaker 1: making an album. And it was the first time that

1197
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:51,000
Speaker 1: I ever like went into the creative process completely unconcerned

1198
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 1: with what anybody thought, with what Nashville thought, whether or

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Speaker 1: not it was going to get me a record deal,

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01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 1: whether or not it was going to have a hit

1201
01:10:58,000 --> 01:10:59,679
Speaker 1: on it. I just made the music that I needed

1202
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:03,639
Speaker 1: to make, and I was writing all of it about

1203
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 1: the most challenging year of my life. I went through

1204
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:08,640
Speaker 1: a breakup and I blest my sister and had to

1205
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:11,840
Speaker 1: return to that place of using music as therapy and

1206
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:14,320
Speaker 1: not having it be so much of a career and like,

1207
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 1: you know, making business moves all the time because it's

1208
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:19,640
Speaker 1: so weird. I mean, you know, like being creative but

1209
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 1: also having to like have that be your job. You

1210
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:24,600
Speaker 1: can kind of get those things confused sometimes. So I

1211
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:26,720
Speaker 1: really just returned back to his place where I was

1212
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 1: just an artist, just a writer and just getting my

1213
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:33,800
Speaker 1: feelings out there. And it worked. Yeah. Since since doing

1214
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 1: this podcast, what do you think is the biggest thing

1215
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 1: you've learned about yourself. Oh I I think I had

1216
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:44,000
Speaker 1: a moment. So I'm up pretty even though I'm like

1217
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 1: angsty in my music and have this attitude, I'm actually

1218
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:51,000
Speaker 1: a pretty nice person, I think, and I'm very much

1219
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:52,880
Speaker 1: so a people person, and I think that for the

1220
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:56,280
Speaker 1: first time, I really was like, oh wow, there's going

1221
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:59,320
Speaker 1: to be people who don't like me, and I can't

1222
01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 1: make them to me like they're just not going to

1223
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 1: like me and that's okay. And I was like, I

1224
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:05,120
Speaker 1: think I have this realization where I was like, there's

1225
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:07,920
Speaker 1: somebody out there who listens to my podcast just to

1226
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 1: make fun of me, and that's okay because they're still

1227
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:13,680
Speaker 1: streaming it and it still counts as a stream. And

1228
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:16,519
Speaker 1: there are some people out there who are listening to

1229
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 1: your podcast that don't like you yet but will come

1230
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 1: to understand you and therefore create a bond and like you.

1231
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:27,960
Speaker 1: Those are those are one of the best things too,

1232
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 1: because I mean, I think if you're polarizing, as you know,

1233
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:35,599
Speaker 1: a personality or a musician or anything like, at least

1234
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:37,560
Speaker 1: people are talking like it means that you're you have

1235
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 1: something you stand for, because if you don't have any

1236
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:45,240
Speaker 1: opinions or values or whatever, You're probably not very interesting. Yeah,

1237
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:48,760
Speaker 1: people that are just good just exist, like I want

1238
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:50,720
Speaker 1: to be on one side of the spectrum or the

1239
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:54,760
Speaker 1: other because there's passion and polarization. So no, I I

1240
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:57,640
Speaker 1: really love the song. I love what you're about. I

1241
01:12:57,680 --> 01:12:59,120
Speaker 1: hope people check out the song and it is out

1242
01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:04,040
Speaker 1: today called My Voice. Follow Kaylee at Kaylee shore k

1243
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:07,320
Speaker 1: A l I E s h o r R on

1244
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:10,519
Speaker 1: Instagram and Twitter and looking forward to another episode of

1245
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:12,519
Speaker 1: the podcast. There are six up now, I believe right mine?

1246
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:15,400
Speaker 1: And when do we hear more music from the project?

1247
01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 1: Not to jump ahead already, but I know you say

1248
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:19,320
Speaker 1: that open book on our Bridge Doll will be out,

1249
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:22,720
Speaker 1: Like what's the timeline with that? Um that'll be out

1250
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:25,519
Speaker 1: within the next I mean it's gonna have before the

1251
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:27,600
Speaker 1: end of the year, before the holidays. And we have

1252
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 1: three more songs on it that are brand new that

1253
01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:33,880
Speaker 1: people haven't heard before that we'll have those out over

1254
01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 1: the next few weeks on a you know, staggered schedule.

1255
01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:38,160
Speaker 1: But I'm really excited for everybody hear. I'm all right,

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01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 1: My Voice is out today. More music soon, Kaylee. Good

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01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:43,160
Speaker 1: to talk to you and I'll see you soon. By

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Speaker 1: Guys by by bye,