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Speaker 3: Here here's the snap back to pass as time looks

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Speaker 3: It's a seventeen yard touchdown reception.

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Speaker 2: Can you digg it? The Bills, for the sixth consecutive week,

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Speaker 2: will trade a win with a loss. They have won

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Speaker 2: six weeks they have alternated, and they fall to five

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Speaker 2: and four on the season. Well, that is your Toshiba

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Speaker 2: game rewind Toshiba, the official copy or company of the

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills. It is a Buffalo Football Monday, and a

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Speaker 2: Monday in which the Bills came out on the short

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Speaker 2: end of the stick twenty four to eighteen. They fall

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Speaker 2: to the Cincinnati Bengals as the Bills again have trouble

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Speaker 2: figuring out. The Cincinnati squad one of the better teams

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Speaker 2: in the AFC. We knew that going in, and we

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Speaker 2: had the feeling that they had caught some momentum and

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Speaker 2: the rediscovered their stride as a football club last week

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Speaker 2: at San Francisco with the big win out West, and

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Speaker 2: they come back home and just continue moving on. Now.

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Speaker 2: They screwed up some stuff in that game too, Steve.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they had second and one at the Bill's

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Speaker 2: that first interception by Josh doesn't bite him. You don't

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Still though it had an effect on the game.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, and the defense really stepped up, no question

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Speaker 4: was it was. That was as bad a throw as

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Speaker 4: That's the worst play Josh made all night. And I

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Speaker 4: it was a good throw this time.

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Speaker 2: That the boy didn't put that throw on the line.

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Speaker 4: He didn't put that throw on the line, the one

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Speaker 4: one to Diggs on the other side was exactly the

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Speaker 4: same play and the guy couldn't even leap up to

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Speaker 4: He's gonna lose. It's exactly what happened, and particularly the

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Speaker 4: They got a tough stretch, tough schedule. We knew that

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Speaker 4: two turnovers. You know, That's that's what's gonna happen in

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Speaker 4: That's not the last time they're gonna see a really

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Speaker 2: They now have at least two takeaways and each other

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Speaker 4: And I'll say this, I like Cincinnati. They're a good

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Speaker 2: It's a playoff right now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, Bills were up until yesterday too. That doesn't

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Speaker 2: Teams in the AFC North are if the if the

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Speaker 4: But that's and yeah, the Bills are like, first time

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Speaker 4: I'm I'm still very very bullish on the Bills. I

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Speaker 4: The Bills went for the most part toe to toe

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Speaker 2: Because I mean the Bengals three points in the second

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Speaker 4: Well, let me say this. I got a stat for

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Speaker 4: the Bills receiving stats. Now, the problem Gabe Davis is

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Speaker 4: The top four guys Digs, Kincaide, Shakir and Cook had

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Speaker 2: But it was all underneath stuff. If they lacked big

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but if well, yes, Diggs had a chunk play, right,

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Speaker 2: Well right, yeah, I get that. I get what you're saying.

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Speaker 4: They're gonna play some good They're gonna play good football

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that could change tonight though. If the Jets win,

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Speaker 4: John?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? I think Ken Dorsey is a horrendous offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 6: Needs to be canned immediately. We are not going any

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Speaker 6: This offense is not going anywhere. If he's the OC

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Speaker 6: It's like, why are we chucking a fifty yard ball

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Speaker 4: It's just the.

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Speaker 6: Play is beyond repair. It's so bad. I really, I

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Speaker 6: It is an absolute abomination.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but John, I mean John, Steve, just Steve just

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, yeah, no, they did. They did it

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Speaker 4: Well, I'll tell you what, John, I'll say this too, John,

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Speaker 6: I mean, if Allen is to blame a little bit,

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Speaker 4: And I'll say this, ask you, John, if you're gonna

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Speaker 4: willing to say it's over. This season is a wash.

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Speaker 4: They got eight games left. Well that's what you're say.

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Speaker 4: If you're gonna can the offensive coordinator. You're done. You

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Speaker 4: have no shot. You have no shot. I don't think

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Speaker 4: So who's gonna do it?

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Speaker 6: I mean somebody else? Anybody?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, anybody, so toothless drunk from Lackawana, like you said,

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Speaker 4: there's no if you're gonna if you're gonna start firing

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Speaker 4: what are you talking about? I mean, come on, man,

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Speaker 4: don't This is the same coordinator who scored thirty seven points,

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Speaker 4: And you lose by eight points in a game where

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Speaker 6: Ask you this, and have you been satisfied with the

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Speaker 6: Have you been satisfied because they're joke?

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Speaker 4: Would you let me ask you this. If that's the case,

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Speaker 4: then you're gonna say this. Unless they score thirty five points,

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Speaker 4: you're not satisfied. Listen, You're never satisfied ever. Nobody is ever.

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Speaker 4: Even when they score forty eight points against the Dolphins,

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Speaker 4: nobody's satisfied. Josh said himself. There's still stuff out there.

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Speaker 4: You're never gonna be satisfied. You just try and win

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Speaker 4: the game. You're I was satisfied, more satisfied after a

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Speaker 4: I mean, who cares? You gotta win? And I get

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Speaker 4: it too. It's a all the complimentary football stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and I'm you know, they weren't spectacular, but you know,

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Speaker 2: In the end, it's nine possessions to nine possessions. They

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And two of the Bills were cut short. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I and tip your hat to lou An Aruma. We

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Speaker 4: So kudos to the Cincinnati coaching staff.

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Speaker 2: And if you know, they always have answers, they got answers.

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Speaker 4: And I think the Bills, uh. And you can say

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Speaker 4: You're punting the entire season, folks. You're they're not. That's

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Speaker 4: They're not gonna do that. That's that's crazy talk. Just

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Speaker 2: Will have a cream soda.

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Speaker 4: They're gonna they're gonna play better. And they didn't play

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Speaker 4: horrific last night. It's hard to watch sometimes, but you're

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Speaker 4: but they're not. They didn't play badly last night. They

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Speaker 4: gonna be all right. They're not gonna fire Ken Dorsey

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Speaker 4: They're they're too good a football team. Despite having lost

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Speaker 2: All right, let's get back to the phones and we'll

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Speaker 2: go to Mark in New Jersey next. What do you

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Speaker 7: A good afternoon, gentlemen. It's just they look like a

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Speaker 7: back to brawling. That's what's frustrating. It's like you can

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Speaker 7: what's frustrating. And it's with the Ken Dorsey thing. I

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Speaker 4: That's a good that's a good point, Mark, And I

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Speaker 4: that's an athlete. We're not gonna have, you know, all

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Speaker 4: you know we don't. We're gonna try and run the

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Speaker 2: I just we saw the difference though, last night from

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Speaker 2: time he did it the Divisional playoff. He had an

433
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Speaker 2: alternative answer for what he was expecting from the Bills

434
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Speaker 2: defense last night. Same thing. They're gonna have a plan

435
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Speaker 2: for Chase because he just went off against San Fran.

436
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,200
Speaker 2: You know what, We're gonna activate a tight end off

437
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,879
Speaker 2: the practice squad. We're gonna address four tight ends and

438
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,680
Speaker 2: we're gonna roll him out there and we're gonna use them.

439
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 2: What's the total on the tight end side of the

440
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,919
Speaker 2: ledger for the Bengals ten catches, one hundred and one

441
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,359
Speaker 2: yards and two touchdowns along with t Higgins eight catches

442
00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:01,120
Speaker 2: for one to ten. Those guys were the alternative game

443
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 2: plan that was instituted just this week for the Bills

444
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,399
Speaker 2: based on what they anticipated the tight ends. Coach for

445
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 2: the Bengals got a game ball in the locker room

446
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 2: after the game for getting those guys ready to play

447
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 2: in that week. They're that game plan and that's what

448
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,639
Speaker 2: Cincinnati has every week. Well, they have answers.

449
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 4: That's right, and and and it's it comes down to

450
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 4: their players, is what it comes down to. There's certainly

451
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Speaker 4: their coaches.

452
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Speaker 2: Panier, Hudson's on the practice squad.

453
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Speaker 4: Some people. Some teams can do that, And that's what

454
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Speaker 4: it means. You think the Bills could prepare for for

455
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 4: that when it like the Chamar Chase stuff, you've gotta

456
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 4: you gotta adjust on the fly. And it's hard to

457
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 4: flip that switch in games saying listen, how are we

458
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 4: gonna let Jamar Chase beat us? Are we gonna let

459
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Speaker 4: te he Ingins beat us? Are we're gonna take a

460
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Speaker 4: chance on a practice squad tight end beating us? And

461
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Speaker 4: that's what happened.

462
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I got nothing. And this is not an

463
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Speaker 2: indictment on the defense at all. It's more a point

464
00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:01,439
Speaker 2: of the Bengals every week an answer, whether it's a

465
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 2: contingency plan, an alternative, or a brand new game plan

466
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 2: that isn't on film anywhere for an opponent to prepare for.

467
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:13,120
Speaker 2: And I think to Mark's point, everybody wants to see

468
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,679
Speaker 2: the Bills offense get to those answers a lot sooner

469
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 2: in a game than the fourth quarter when they're down

470
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Speaker 2: two scores.

471
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Speaker 4: I think two, no question, they're starting to get to

472
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Speaker 4: those answers. They're starting to get to where they want

473
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Speaker 4: to be offensively, Like we said, like I told you,

474
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 4: those top four guys and the Bills only had two

475
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:34,479
Speaker 4: incompletions between them. Shakir, Cook, Kincaid and Digs only had

476
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,439
Speaker 4: two incompletions in the whole game between those four guys.

477
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Speaker 4: So they're really playing efficient football. Yeah, more of that,

478
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 4: less of the other. But it's a it's it is

479
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 4: kudos to the Bengals for having and and and that's

480
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 4: the way if you came into that game and saying, Okay,

481
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 4: we're gonna let we're gonna take t Higgins and Jamar Chase,

482
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,880
Speaker 4: and if you can beat us with these other two

483
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Speaker 4: Jimokes who we don't even know who they are, this

484
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 4: Hudson and Sample and Hudson and Nurse Smith, Okay, do it,

485
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 4: the Bills. That's how you that's how you play defense

486
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 4: in the NFL. He said, you can beat us if

487
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 4: you can and like I've just been talking about, you

488
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 4: can beat us left handed with Hudson. Well, the bottom line,

489
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Speaker 4: Sample and Smith do it.

490
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 2: The bottom line is they shouldn't have beaten them. You

491
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 2: gotta miss. You have a mistackle in the open field.

492
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 2: Drew Sample is not a thoroughbred athlete.

493
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 4: He's not.

494
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 2: He's in to protect the bills. Don't trigger the blitzer,

495
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 2: or the blitzer who was supposed to blitz doesn't. He

496
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 2: hangs out and like Spies Burrow.

497
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 4: Or he does rush it. And then after he rushes, then.

498
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 2: Well, Sample's responsibility is to pick up the blitz. He said,

499
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 2: nobody blitzed, so I leaked out as I'm supposed to do.

500
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 2: If nobody blitzes, I'm going out for a pass. He did.

501
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 2: Burrow hit him, and then he's got ten yards of

502
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 2: space in front of him. He gets down to the five,

503
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,640
Speaker 2: poor open field tackling, gets around to tackle, and he's

504
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 2: in the end zone for a twenty two yard touchdown.

505
00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 2: Drew Sample is never gonna score a touchdown over twenty

506
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 2: yards again in his life. In his life, he's not

507
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 2: athletic enough to do.

508
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 4: And that's one of the things you get into as well,

509
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,919
Speaker 4: when the defensive call and the adjustments are there, Like,

510
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 4: for instance, if if Sample is staying in to block,

511
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 4: what they'll do is stay in to protect, and when

512
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 4: the defender say if it's Dorian Williams or Bernard or

513
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 4: even one of the safeties Hyder Poyer, who are gonna

514
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 4: blitz and they see him stay in the block, they're

515
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,400
Speaker 4: gonna rush the they'll green dog and rush the passer.

516
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 4: If they come late, the protector can check the other

517
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 4: way he's gonna protect. And then when the guy comes

518
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 4: late after a been your mental clock goes off and

519
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 4: Burrows had a chance to look at the first read.

520
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 4: Then he goes right past the guy and does he's blitzing,

521
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 4: he doesn't protect, and then all of a sudden, there's

522
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 4: nobody guarding him because the guy who was gonna guard

523
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 4: him thought he was past protecting. All of that's on

524
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Speaker 4: in play, and that's why you get a guy like

525
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 4: Sample catching the ball with a guy nobody nobody was

526
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 4: in ten yards of him because the guy who was

527
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 4: covering him thought he was gonna pass protect on him.

528
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 4: So all of that stuff is on the fly, real

529
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 4: time judgment called by players on the field, and it

530
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 4: works to perfection sometimes and sometimes it doesn't. But that's

531
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 4: how you got to play defense. You're right the bills,

532
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 4: if I'll say it again, if you're gonna beat the Bills,

533
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 4: and the Bills come into this game and think, Okay,

534
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 4: Hudson Sample and Irv Smith, those are gonna be the

535
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 4: key guys in the win catching passes. Yeah, okay, we'll

536
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 4: take our chances.

537
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,719
Speaker 2: I mean, the Bengals didn't run the ball well and

538
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 2: Chase had forty one yards receiving like and they gave

539
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 2: up twenty four points. Yeah, Tyler Meagans team at home.

540
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,199
Speaker 4: That's a good job by Tider Higgins.

541
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tyler, he on short fields again, Yeah, Tis teams

542
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 2: didn't flip the field once.

543
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,239
Speaker 4: Higgins had a nice day. He had one hundred and

544
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 4: eight for one hundred and ten on nine targets. He

545
00:27:55,400 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 4: had a nice day. But you know, I it And

546
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 4: there's a lot of nuance to this as well, because

547
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 4: I'm thinking in early in this game, I'm thinking, man,

548
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 4: oh man, this is where it's going. You know, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown.

549
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 4: Bills come back out and either Josh throws the interception

550
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 4: or what And then the Bills come down on another

551
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 4: possession and Tim Settle gets in on Joe Burrow off

552
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 4: the field and you're off the field. You're off the field.

553
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 4: But no, it's a pass. It's a roughing the passer call.

554
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 4: Oh okay, then later on you get the the intentional

555
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,959
Speaker 4: grounding call. So all of a sudden, those couple of penalties,

556
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 4: All of a sudden, it's like, ah, you stumble and

557
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 4: you're now you're not in your rhythm and stuff, and

558
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 4: there's you know, you got plenty of time to recover.

559
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 4: It happened early in the game, all that stuff, but

560
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 4: those stuff, that stuff kind of happened in consecutive series

561
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 4: or something like that, and it was like, oh my gosh,

562
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 4: what so it kind of takes you off your game

563
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 4: and then you know, you don't recover fast enough from that,

564
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden it's halftime, you're down twenty one,

565
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 4: and now you're digging out of a hole. Yeah, that's

566
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 4: part of the nuance of it. That's you've got to

567
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 4: overcome the penalties, even if they're even if you a

568
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 4: lot of us don't agree with the penalties, So all

569
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 4: of that goes into the mix. And when you're playing

570
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 4: a good team, man, that yeah, it's magnified it. Yeah

571
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 4: a little bit.

572
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 2: Let's squeeze. But you on the east side in here

573
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 2: before the break, what do you got?

574
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 8: But you listen listen, listen. I love both you guys,

575
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 8: and we'll get right to it. Steve Strength, they're finished

576
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 8: drinking your beer and put your boxing gloves though. Community

577
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 8: about the box, buddy, and I love you. You're a very

578
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 8: intelligence person. I'm not I'm just talking to you, having

579
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 8: fun with you right now. But you're wrong. This is

580
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 8: where you're wrong. And my friend, I go down to

581
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 8: the to the Buffalo falt monic and I love orchestra.

582
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 8: They have to have a conductor to know when to

583
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 8: bring certain things in at the right time to make

584
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 8: you even sound good right now when you do this.

585
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 8: Gentleman just called you a little while ago. And even

586
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 8: though he went off board by saying the guy with

587
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 8: the with the with the missing tool can call off,

588
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 8: I can curb with you about the chief's hand, but

589
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 8: that doesn't mean the season's upware. Kim Dorsey, dude does

590
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 8: not rectify, and does not identify, and does not make

591
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 8: our football team. We got a guy called Joe Brady

592
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 8: who would get an opportunity could call plays too. If

593
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 8: Sean takes the play calling away from Kim Dorsey, give

594
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 8: him a shot at it. That's one number two. Secondly,

595
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 8: when you said about the defenses playing well, I can

596
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 8: curR they are, but listen, everybody can be touched. Sean mcdumott.

597
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 8: You know I love my guys, Brandon beating him. I

598
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 8: love him to death. But right then and there, I'm

599
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 8: gonna get mad at Sean. Yes, you know why he

600
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 8: rotates his players like everybody in his Hall of famers.

601
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 8: These are not the nineteen ninety Buffalo bills where you

602
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 8: can bring people off the bitch and he's gonna fill

603
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 8: in with the stars and play just the same. We

604
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 8: had you gotta get continuity. We had a guy named

605
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 8: Lynnvale Joseph came in a gang stop, throw the citer away,

606
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 8: pick the running back up and slave. You want to say,

607
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 8: guess what the next play happened? He took him out.

608
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 8: You had Wassue Douglas came to t Higgas caught the players,

609
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 8: but Rassue Douglas was right there to make the daggle.

610
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 8: What happened the next play They took him out, put

611
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 8: Dame Jackson in the next down. My thing is this,

612
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 8: find your group of people go back like they used

613
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 8: to do when new play. Steve let them stand the game.

614
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 8: You couldn't raise their hand and say, take me out quick,

615
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 8: roll take these players like everybody's Hall of Favor. We

616
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 8: do not have any rhythm because we don't have any cotton, noity.

617
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 8: So I'm gonna say this to you, and.

618
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 5: Now I'm picking what you seem to put your bocky

619
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 5: gloves on. But I'm just saying this.

620
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 8: I love you guys. Let me say this and I'm gone.

621
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,959
Speaker 8: We got a guy named Leonard Fournette who just signed

622
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 8: I felt bast for him yesterday. He's looking at this

623
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 8: office and saying, how in the hell am I going

624
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 8: to get in here and get into this office any

625
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 8: kind of rhythm? How long we get the ball? He

626
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 8: had his cluels right now. So what I'm saying and

627
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 8: I'm gone is Kim Dorsey can get called right now.

628
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 8: I'm not saying he gets fired, gets hit the play

629
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 8: call away from him and let Joe let let Joe

630
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 8: let Joe Brady get up there and call like he

631
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 8: did at Caroline and give him a shot at let

632
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 8: these young players play like DeMar Ham. Let him get

633
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 8: out there and get a shot. You know, no, we

634
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 8: gotta shake them. We gotta shake this pot up and

635
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 8: stir it up. It's too bad. He's just look at

636
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 8: all this old fool and said, we can still feed

637
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 8: ourselves with that. No, this change it around a little,

638
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 8: shack it up a little bit, baby, we'd come out

639
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 8: on top. I love you guys, thank you so much

640
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 8: for taking my call.

641
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, butch I kind of feel like you contradicted yourself there.

642
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 2: In one breath. You're saying, stop subbing guys out here,

643
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 2: there and everywhere, and then you're saying to mix it up.

644
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 2: So I don't know which it is.

645
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 4: You're saying, and you're saying to leave the players in

646
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 4: and chant and mix up the coaching staff.

647
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 2: Guess I guess that's what he's saying. And this sounds

648
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 2: like it to me. I mean, they weren't subbing guys

649
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 2: in and out on the back end. They were doing

650
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 2: it once every three series. One corner would get two

651
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 2: series and then he would be out and then another

652
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,959
Speaker 2: corner would come in. It wasn't every play, and the

653
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 2: only time they did that was due to injury. Benford

654
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 2: tweaked his hamstring, didn't play the last quarter and a half.

655
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 2: Dan Jackson got dinged in the game as well. That's

656
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 2: why by the time he got to the end of it.

657
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 2: You had Josh Norman and Rasul Douglass out there as

658
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 2: you're outside corners, So injury had something to do with

659
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 2: that rotation on the back end, although they were rotating

660
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 2: about every three series, two series for this guy out,

661
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 2: two series for this guy out, and that's how they

662
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 2: were doing it with Jackson, Benford and Douglas. The rotation

663
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 2: up front has happened all season long. Not to mention

664
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 2: the fact that you got Lynval Joseph coming off the couch.

665
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 2: If you expect him to go out there and play

666
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 2: fifty snaps, I don't care what kind of shape he's in,

667
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 2: he'll be the first to tell you that's a lot

668
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 2: to ask.

669
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I get that with the you know, the continuity,

670
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 4: and you're right, but when you got six starters out

671
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 4: of your defense from the opening day roster and two

672
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 4: of the guys that are on the field were not

673
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 4: part of your team eight days ago, yeah, you might

674
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 4: want to like pump the brakes on giving him fifty snaps.

675
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 4: Rausul Douglas wouldn't have been on the field probably had

676
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 4: Jackson not gotten dinged. You want to give those guys

677
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 4: a chance, and you know, you talk about Leonard Fournette

678
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 4: listen with all with all due respect, Butch, You're right,

679
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 4: he's probably over there not thinking how am I going

680
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 4: to fit in? How am I gonna vent? He goes, No,

681
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 4: let me get on the field, is what Leonard Fournette's thinking.

682
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 5: Now.

683
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 4: The same guys like that want to get on the field.

684
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 4: These guys Lynval Joseph, get me on the field. I

685
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 4: want to get on Russell Douglas. I want to play.

686
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 4: Those guys want to play. They don't. They don't wonder

687
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 4: about their niche in the offense or their defense. They

688
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 4: want to get on the field. That's why they sign

689
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 4: a contract. That's why they're here, that's why they're playing.

690
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,720
Speaker 4: They want to play. So don't think that those guys

691
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 4: over on the other side of the wall here are

692
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 4: you know, in any way shape or form, like sitting

693
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,919
Speaker 4: there with their shoulders slumped like, man, this is hot

694
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 4: and man, No, they've got a plan and they're gonna

695
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 4: they're they're working the plan. Believe they these guys want

696
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 4: to play and they think they're gonna win games.

697
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 2: And Leonard Fournette's defense, he said it was gonna take

698
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,240
Speaker 2: him two to four weeks to learn the passing concepts

699
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,240
Speaker 2: because he's never seen this kind of passing concept playbook before.

700
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 2: For what that's worth, does that mean he's not going

701
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 2: to be up in four weeks. I don't know. We'll

702
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 2: have to wait and see, but I think some personnel

703
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 2: changes could be in order to try to shake things

704
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 2: up and get the get the production up where it

705
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 2: needs to be on a more consistent basis on the

706
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 2: offensive side of the ball. Got to take a break here,

707
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 2: but we'll get to more phone calls when we return.

708
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 2: Lew In Rochester and others holding at eight oh three

709
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 2: oh five fifty, We'll get to you when we return

710
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 2: here on One Bill's Live. Stay tuned that here on

711
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 2: One Bill's Live on a Buffalo Football Monday, Chris Brown,

712
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you. Right back to the phones we go.

713
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 2: We do have to get the player of the game first,

714
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,479
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715
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,840
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716
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 2: of the game is Dane Jackson. Three tackles in the game,

717
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 2: three passes broken up, played tough against the run as

718
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 2: well out there on the edge. So in a game

719
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 2: that did not go the right way. We tipped the

720
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 2: hat to Dane Jackson. But let's go to lew in

721
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 2: Rochester on the phones. What do you got for us, lou.

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00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 9: Hey, Chrissy, Steve, it's a pleasure talking to you.

723
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:52,760
Speaker 7: Guys.

724
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 9: Just want to get Steve's take as a former player

725
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 9: on the officiating last night, between the timp suttle Rock

726
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 9: the passer, the no tripping call, the intentional grounding the

727
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 9: PI and Gabe Davis that wasn't called in the end

728
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 9: zone that would have been a first and first and

729
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 9: goal from the one, the Tyler Boyd catch that wasn't

730
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 9: a catch, the Sheffield catch that was called an incompletion.

731
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 9: There was also the unnecessary roughness that wasn't called that

732
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 9: took like a height out of the game. I mean,

733
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 9: all those calls leading up to it's got to take

734
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 9: your mindset out of the game. And it feels like

735
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 9: you're playing against the refs during that game. I mean,

736
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 9: I know you don't want to blame the refs, but

737
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 9: it's it was. It was terrible last night.

738
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 4: I mean yeah, and I'll say this too though, and

739
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 4: here's what you got to know too. And I know

740
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 4: this is Bills fans don't want to hear this, and

741
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 4: I'm not listen. I'm you can laugh at me because

742
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 4: I'm the guy that got thrown out of his last

743
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 4: game for beef and a call I was when I played,

744
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 4: I was maybe maybe not the league leader, but I was.

745
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 4: I was all pro at baiting refs. I hated those guys.

746
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 4: I mean I absolutely hated him. I was all over

747
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 4: them all the time. In games. Everything I was bad.

748
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,439
Speaker 4: But I'll say this, in games, even for a guy

749
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 4: like me, it doesn't affect the overall picture. You tend

750
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 4: to take those plays one at a time. You don't

751
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 4: see an overall conspiracy because and I'll say this too.

752
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 4: You ask Cincinnati fans today, they'll be able to pull

753
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 4: out a handful of plays where they think the Bill's

754
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 4: got the benefit of the doubt. It's just the way

755
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 4: the life life is. People don't really want to hear

756
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 4: it because they, you know, they want to pile the

757
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 4: whole world against them, and they want to think they

758
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 4: got every bad break coming to them, And the Bills

759
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 4: did get some bad breaks. I thought the tim Settle

760
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 4: roughing the passer call was bogus. I thought the tripping call.

761
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 2: Damlin Taylor Bridge the app lide tackle to take down

762
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 2: to all Kate. It almost breaks his ankle in the product.

763
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 4: I didn't think about it until I saw it on replay.

764
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 4: Then I bought it. The intentional grounding on Josh was

765
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 4: I don't even know what to say about that. And

766
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 4: Terry McCauley on the broadcast last night, and Collin's Worth

767
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 4: rightfully and bless his art. Chris collins Worth, a guy

768
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 4: that Bill's fans kind of go off on because they

769
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 4: don't like him, announced he was right. That's bogus challenging.

770
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 4: He was challenging mccaully. He says, Ah, I get how

771
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 4: the rules, but I've never seen that plaque. I've never

772
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 4: seen that called. It was obvious that Josh threw it

773
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 4: before gave Davis stopped Davis. It was a miscommunication and

774
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:21,720
Speaker 4: Josh wasn't even under that much pressure.

775
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 2: He was under no pressure. So I've never seen anybody

776
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 2: get called for intentional grounding. That threw the ball forty

777
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 2: five yards down the.

778
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 4: Field, that's right, and he was and he and ended

779
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 4: up not getting touched. So that was yeah, So all

780
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,399
Speaker 4: those plays piled up, You're right, the officiating did have

781
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 4: some moments last night that were at least questionable. I

782
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 4: thought it was wrong to challenge the Sherfield intersect of

783
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 4: the incompletion.

784
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 2: As you saw the nose of the ball hit the ground,

785
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 2: you knew he.

786
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 4: Wasn't gonna You knew he wasn't gonna get it, and

787
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 4: and you had to cost.

788
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 2: Him a time out they needed at the end of

789
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 2: the game.

790
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 4: Right. So I'm I didn't think that was a good challenge.

791
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 4: And sometimes coaching staff will say, hey, if Surefield says, listen,

792
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 4: I call and he might have caught it, you can say,

793
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:01,919
Speaker 4: he can say what he want. He might have felt

794
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 4: like he caught it, but he was wrong. You're not

795
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 4: going to get.

796
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 2: That call back as any part of the ball touch.

797
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 4: Right. So, so all of those plays and the Gabe,

798
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:14,280
Speaker 4: the Gabe Davis interest in completion with a face mask,

799
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 4: that was an uncatchable ball anyway, if hand, if Gab

800
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 4: Gabe wasn't gonna catch that ball, I didn't think. I

801
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 4: thought that was your.

802
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 2: Head pulled away from the ball. It's probably inhibiting your

803
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 2: ability to go get the ball, is it not?

804
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I thought in your head wrench the other way. Yeah,

805
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 4: I didn't think that play was gonna get called. I'd

806
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 4: like to look at it again, but I thought the

807
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 4: ball he caught him, he got his face mask very late. Uh,

808
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 4: and yeah, I was okay with that call myself. What

809
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 4: was the other one? What were the other ones? The tripping?

810
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 2: Him said all the tripping, the trip. It should have

811
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 2: been a tripping penalty on Gravan Taylor brid He comes

812
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 2: in and essentially does a soccer slide tackle to take

813
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 2: down Dalton Kincaid. And because he did not trip him

814
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 2: with his lower leg, refs are not smart enough to say, oh,

815
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 2: you know what, that's still because he's using his thigh

816
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 2: to tackle him. No hands were used in the tackle.

817
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 2: What's it Now? I'm getting steamed. I don't want to

818
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 2: get steamed all over it. So the bottom line is this,

819
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 2: you gotta make your own breaks in a football game

820
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 2: to win it. If you rely on the officiating to

821
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:14,760
Speaker 2: be on your side one hundred percent of the time,

822
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 2: you're wasting your time. You got to go into the

823
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 2: game expecting bad officiating and say, look, we got to

824
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:22,879
Speaker 2: make our own breaks to win this game. There's gonna

825
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 2: be about three or four calls that go against us

826
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 2: on lousy officiating. Hopefully the other team gets three or

827
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 2: four lousy calls against them too, and it evens out.

828
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,919
Speaker 2: That's the best case scenario you can hope for, because

829
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 2: there are gonna be bad calls every week in this

830
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 2: league because the officiating is just flat out not good enough. Look,

831
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 2: I'll be the first to tell you officiating in this

832
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 2: league is not easy. But it's tough to stomach on

833
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 2: a weekly basis, and last and last night was really hard.

834
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,280
Speaker 2: Alex Kemp's staff needs to do better going forward.

835
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Speaker 4: Well, all of that's being said, you can't. I don't

836
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,919
Speaker 4: think it affects the mindset of the players going for right,

837
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 4: They'll get frustrated a minute, but they they tend to

838
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,399
Speaker 4: move on and go to the next play. Coaches are

839
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,479
Speaker 4: trained to do that, and players are you know, they've

840
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 4: all played in games where bad calls happen, so you

841
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 4: kind of got to go. You got to go make

842
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 4: the best of it and play next. And like I said,

843
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,879
Speaker 4: there's gonna be people in Cincinnati that will say, ah,

844
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 4: they made bad but what about this play and this plane?

845
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 4: You know, like it or not. The reason that the

846
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 4: officiating may be some you know, finger quotes substandard at times,

847
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 4: because it's the hardest officiating job on the planet, bar none.

848
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 4: It's harder to officiate an NFL game than any other

849
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 4: professional game on the planet. And these guys they work

850
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 4: hard at it, but it's impossible to get right all

851
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 4: the time. So you kind of got to live with that,

852
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 4: you know, that problem that thorn in the side of

853
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 4: the game because it's so complicated it's hard to officiate.

854
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 4: But you're right. I thought I said it early in

855
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 4: the show. The early calls like the like the roughing

856
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 4: the passer and the and the intentional grounding stuff like

857
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 4: that, it kind of hamstrung the Bill's ability to get the

858
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Speaker 4: Cincinnati out of the field kind of get off to

859
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Speaker 4: a slower start defensively.

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Speaker 2: And that's what makes it tough to stommach.

861
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Speaker 4: And that's what makes it hard because it kind of

862
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Speaker 4: it kind of gets them out of their rhythm when

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Speaker 4: they were playing really well all of a sudden, now

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Speaker 4: they got to play really well again, and that's hard

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Speaker 4: to do.

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Speaker 2: Gotta take a break. Joe and Williamsville will lead us

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Speaker 2: off when we get back on a Buffalo Football Monday

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Speaker 2: holder Cam Newton, who had seventy five in his career.

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Speaker 4: Right back the run by Josh. We were just I

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00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,439
Speaker 4: was just going over the game book just a second ago.

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Speaker 4: The run by Josh Allen for the touchdown in the

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Speaker 4: opening drive that was also the first penalty of the

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Speaker 4: game for Jon.

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00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 2: Taunting right, which okay, I wouldn't be surprised because Josh

890
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 2: kind of stuck the ball at a player last week

891
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 2: against Tampa on his run into the end zone, and

892
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,720
Speaker 2: the rest reviewed that stuff. So I'll bet somebody said, hey,

893
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Speaker 2: if he does that again, we got to flag him

894
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Speaker 2: for it. Can't have that taunting in the game, especially

895
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Speaker 2: from a high profile player. So I'll bet they were

896
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Speaker 2: ripe to call something because those flags flew quickly quickly

897
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Speaker 2: on that play.

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Speaker 4: That was pretty easy though. That's that's the rule, and

899
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Speaker 4: that's it's going to get called.

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Speaker 2: So let's go to the phones and to Joe and

901
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 2: Williamsville to lead us off here.

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Speaker 10: What do you got, Joe, he's Steve and Chris. Thanks

903
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 10: for taking Mike Wall. I really love your shows. A

904
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 10: couple questions that i'd like answered real quick, and then

905
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 10: I've got a comment I'd like to make, and I'll

906
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 10: hang up and listen to your reply. But Steve, I

907
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 10: think you said that Alan first interception, our only interception

908
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Speaker 10: of the game last night was that he threw it short.

909
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 10: Do you think that has anything to do with his

910
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,919
Speaker 10: right arm injury, because he I mean, you can see

911
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 10: some pathive he throws like on a line drive. They're bullets.

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Speaker 4: No, I don't think it's I don't think his arms

913
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Speaker 4: bothered him at all. It may it may be sore today. No,

914
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Speaker 4: because he threw I mean King Kaid's only in completion

915
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Speaker 4: was because Josh threw the thing about two hundred miles

916
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Speaker 4: an hour on a rope for ten yards. I mean

917
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Speaker 4: it was it was so No, don't I was too

918
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Speaker 4: much air under that three. Yeah. I don't think Josh's

919
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Speaker 4: shoulder is an issue at all. It may be to him,

920
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Speaker 4: but it's certainly not hampering his ability to throw the football.

921
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Speaker 2: Yeah, what was your comment, Joe?

922
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Speaker 10: You don't think that first interception was caused by his

923
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Speaker 10: right arm injury either?

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Speaker 4: No, No, I don't. I think he just he just

925
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Speaker 4: under threw it a little bit, took and picked the

926
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Speaker 4: wrong trajectory to put the ball up.

927
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Speaker 10: Okay, another thing, I think kin Case fumble was not

928
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Speaker 10: his fault. I mean the kid was flipping in the

929
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Speaker 10: air and doing a swimmersault and another defender came over

930
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Speaker 10: and punched the ball out.

931
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Speaker 2: Yeah he did. It was a great defensive play.

932
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Speaker 10: Well yeah, yeah, I think more so than a kin

933
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Speaker 10: case that he fumbled. But Anyway, I was talking to

934
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Speaker 10: a friend of mine, texting him last night and I

935
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Speaker 10: said to get a better team one and he says

936
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Speaker 10: the better quarterback one. And mike comment to him was

937
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Speaker 10: that Allen did not lose the game. Our defense lost

938
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Speaker 10: the game. And I'll my reason for saying that is,

939
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Speaker 10: you will go to that last drive after we dig

940
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Speaker 10: scored the eight points, our defense stops and we get

941
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Speaker 10: the ball back. We got a chance to win that

942
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Speaker 10: game and our defense couldn't stop them.

943
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think. Yeah, I understand where you're coming from, Joe.

944
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Speaker 2: I'm going to respectfully disagree on that because the defense

945
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 2: got zero help in this football game from special teams

946
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Speaker 2: and for two and a half quarters from the offense.

947
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Speaker 2: At no point in the game did the offense or

948
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Speaker 2: special teams flip the field. When the special teams had

949
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Speaker 2: to punt, they did not flip the field. Sam Martin

950
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Speaker 2: had two poor punts, one of which went twenty six yards,

951
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Speaker 2: both of one of which was a line drive. Didn't

952
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Speaker 2: let your cover team get down there, and they still

953
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Speaker 2: covered it pretty well. So short fields for the offense

954
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Speaker 2: for the Bengals, which now puts your defense on a

955
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Speaker 2: short field and under stress. The end of the game.

956
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Speaker 2: They've got three more starters out in addition to the

957
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Speaker 2: three you lost three weeks ago. So you're playing with

958
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Speaker 2: a secondary unit, quite literally, and you still held them

959
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Speaker 2: to twenty four points three points in the second half.

960
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Speaker 2: You can't put this one on the defense. I'm sorry

961
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Speaker 2: you can't. The other two phases played subpar football yesterday.

962
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Speaker 2: They did not play consistently through four quarters. The defense

963
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 2: was hanging on by their fingernails, but they did a

964
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Speaker 2: hell of a job being as shorthanded as they were.

965
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Speaker 2: I can't put it on the defense. I'm gonna have

966
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Speaker 2: to disagree with you.

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Speaker 8: Joe.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and I see it too. I mean, I

969
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 4: get what you're saying, and you know there have been

970
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 4: times when you'd like to see the defense get a start.

971
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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm with Brownie on this one. When we

972
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 4: get to the point where we can stop talking about

973
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 4: how the defense isn't the defense that started the season.

974
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,280
Speaker 4: I mean, it's like half of them are different guys,

975
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 4: and a couple of the different guys are brand new guys.

976
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 4: I think you have to I think me for me

977
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Speaker 4: one for one, and Brownie for another. I think that

978
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Speaker 4: alters our expectations of what they're capable of or what

979
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 4: you would expect of them from them in a game,

980
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 4: and I thought they exceeded my expectations. When you look

981
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Speaker 4: at it like that, certainly you'd like to see him

982
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 4: make one or two more plays. Certainly, yeah, have some

983
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 4: guy make a play. But who's it gonna be. Is

984
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 4: it gonna be one of the backup players that shouldn't

985
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 4: have been on the field anyway, or one of the

986
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 4: brand new players? You know? Are you looking for those

987
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 4: guys to win a game for you? That's a big ask.

988
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 2: I mean, it's Joe. You can't have it both ways.

989
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 2: Like you're you're mad at the defense for not getting

990
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 2: a stop after the Bills scored to make it a

991
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 2: one score game. How about earlier in the game, Joshua's

992
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 2: the pick at the Bill's thirty two yard line, the

993
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 2: defense picks him up. They not only hold him to

994
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 2: a field goal, they force a punt after that interception.

995
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 2: No harm done, they picked you up, the defense did.

996
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 2: How about later in the game, drive start at the

997
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 2: forty two yard line after a crummy punt, the defense

998
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 2: forces a turnover on downs at the Bill's ford thirty

999
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 2: seven yard line. I mean, the defense didn't get a

1000
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Speaker 2: lot of help last night. To me, they were the

1001
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 2: best of the three units on the team yesterday, and

1002
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 2: to me, it wasn't even close. So the other two

1003
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Speaker 2: phases have got to pick it up because they are

1004
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 2: the team. They are the outside you want to, all right,

1005
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 2: So let's look at it this way. Let's look at

1006
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 2: the last five games. Okay, last five games I put

1007
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 2: I put one of those games on the defense New

1008
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 2: England when they gave up twenty nine points and couldn't

1009
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 2: hold them on the final drive. You want to you

1010
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 2: want to argue with that one, that one, I'll put

1011
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 2: that one on the defense. These other four games not

1012
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 2: on the defense. I'm sorry. It's the it's the offense,

1013
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 2: and it's the special teams. And four of the last

1014
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 2: five games that have been substandard. End of story.

1015
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 4: There you go, and uh, there's a lot in it,

1016
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 4: no question about it. And they've done it from what

1017
00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 4: we would say, not undermanned the defense, right defense, So

1018
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 4: certainly you can look around and you know there's all kinds.

1019
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 4: And I'll say this too, I I don't expect. I

1020
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Speaker 4: didn't expect the Bills go to to Cincinnati and win

1021
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:14,439
Speaker 4: this thing thirty five to three.

1022
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 2: Oh no, I hope that you knew. You knew it was.

1023
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 4: Going to be a tussle. They're a good team, and

1024
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 4: you need to play well in all three phases at

1025
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 4: least at times, even if you have a bad series

1026
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 4: here or there, or a bad change over playing the

1027
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 4: special teams, you got to play, you know, and they

1028
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,280
Speaker 4: just didn't do that last night. Yeah, just one thing, exact.

1029
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,240
Speaker 2: Two and a half quarters is a completely different animals

1030
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 2: and you can't do that against them.

1031
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 4: Of that calet you've got, you've got to find a way,

1032
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 4: and it's obviously opposites on either side of the ball.

1033
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 4: You got to find a way to stay on the

1034
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 4: field offensively, give yourself a chance to go down and

1035
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 4: get some points, or to get that other team off

1036
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 4: the field somehow, some way. And in special teams it's

1037
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 4: field position. And last night the Bills were in their

1038
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 4: own in all night, all night.

1039
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Speaker 2: We got to take a break here. Promise we'll get

1040
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 2: through more of your phone calls here in the next segment.

1041
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 2: Is we got a long segment coming up next, so

1042
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 2: we'll get to everybody that's on hold right now. When

1043
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:10,800
Speaker 2: we come back, we'll lead off with Rod and Hamburg.

1044
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 2: Here on a Buffalo Football Monday on One Bill's Live

1045
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,320
Speaker 2: presented by Collide Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

1046
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 11: On the league.

1047
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 1: They saw these one Bills Live presented by Calledlida.

1048
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Speaker 2: Help all right, Here we are hour number two on

1049
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:12,240
Speaker 2: a Buffalo Football Monday, after a twenty four to eighteen

1050
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 2: defeat at the hands of the Cincinnati Bengals to fall

1051
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 2: to five and four on the season. Got to get

1052
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:20,879
Speaker 2: right back to the phones and leading us off here

1053
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Speaker 2: is Rod in Hamburg. What do you got for us?

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Speaker 6: Rode, Hello, gentlemen.

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Speaker 12: I just want to start off by saying, I think

1056
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 12: Buffalo listening to this show. I love listening to you show.

1057
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 12: But Buffalo as a whole needs to stop pretending that

1058
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 12: this is an elite football team. This is a very

1059
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 12: good football team with a very good football quarterback. But

1060
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 12: this team is five and five over the last ten

1061
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 12: football games. That's not a bad game. That's not a

1062
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 12: refs stealing something from them. That's not even a bad

1063
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 12: start to a season that encompasses two seasons at a minimum.

1064
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 12: This team, every time they play a good team, falls

1065
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 12: every time. We got to stop pretending that from top

1066
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,879
Speaker 12: to bottom. This is an elite franchise if you want

1067
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 12: to look this. This team has zero identity. Let's talk

1068
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 12: about coaching. The only thing you're ever going to remember

1069
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 12: about this coach is thirteen seconds, a failed opportunity from

1070
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,399
Speaker 12: the coaching staff. We can talk about our identity as

1071
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 12: I released of turnovers five straight games that Josh has

1072
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 12: at least one interception, not to mention fumbles. We got

1073
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 12: to talk about Josh Allen having more turnovers than any

1074
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 12: player since he's been drafted in the entire league. You

1075
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 12: cannot win football games when you're constantly giving the ball

1076
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 12: to the other team.

1077
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,240
Speaker 4: How do you think? How do you expand it? They're

1078
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:37,919
Speaker 4: five and four?

1079
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 12: Then on the season, five and four means we're out

1080
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 12: of the playoffs right now? Is this what we were

1081
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 12: going into this season expecting five and four?

1082
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 4: Did you expect not to? Do you expect Josh never

1083
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 4: to turn it over or not turn it over like

1084
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 4: he has throughout? No, he turned it over in twenty

1085
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 4: twenty one two when they were on the cusp of

1086
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 4: the As you say this, that was th Yeah, he

1087
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 4: had the career high in intercept in twenty twenty one

1088
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 4: when that was the year. You said they should have

1089
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 4: won it all, or that's the premise anyway, but.

1090
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 12: I would certainly suggest that we didn't win it all

1091
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 12: and that was our best chance. Right and even even

1092
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 12: further down the line, let's stop giving Brandon being all

1093
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 12: this praise. Could you imagine if at one point in time,

1094
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:22,800
Speaker 12: this GM and this football program decided that they wanted

1095
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 12: to give Josh Allen the weapons instead of taking defensive

1096
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:29,720
Speaker 12: lineman after defensive wnman after defensive wymen. The are average

1097
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,399
Speaker 12: at best, and maybe we could give them a Jamar Chase,

1098
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 12: and we can give them a Key Higgins, and we

1099
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 12: can give them all these opportunities from top to bottom.

1100
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 12: This organization is listen, it's better than average, but it's

1101
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 12: never elite.

1102
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 4: Let me just say this, Rod, and thanks for the call.

1103
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 4: It's a good call. Let me just say this you.

1104
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:52,720
Speaker 4: I'm so happy for you today that this team dropped

1105
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 4: an eight point decision to a really good football team

1106
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:58,760
Speaker 4: and gave you the opportunity to and trash the entire

1107
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 4: organization top to bob them over the last five years.

1108
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 4: Hired the wrong head coach five years ago, seven years ago,

1109
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 4: got the wrong general manager, got the wrong quarterback, good

1110
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 4: for you today that you could get on here and

1111
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 4: say that, Come on, bro, calm down, Calm down. I mean,

1112
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 4: his main premise is this is let me say, Okay, yes,

1113
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 4: that's fine. They didn't play Elite last night. They haven't

1114
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,399
Speaker 4: played it. They don't play Elite every week. But I'll

1115
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 4: tell you what, there were a couple of weekends this

1116
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:29,799
Speaker 4: year for a month they did. That's in there now.

1117
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,320
Speaker 4: Certainly they didn't. And I'm telling you, I'll say this again,

1118
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 4: you can't do that at weeks eight, nine, and ten

1119
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 4: of the regular season. You can't even do it at

1120
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 4: weeks two, three, and four like the Bills did, like

1121
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 4: the Bengals have done through weeks six, seven, eight, and nine.

1122
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 4: You can't do that. You can't do that for seventeen weeks.

1123
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 4: It just you aren't gonna do it what you need

1124
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 4: to do now. As a Bills fan, and I think

1125
00:55:56,239 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 4: even as a critic, you gotta know that the plan

1126
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 4: I think going forward is to have this team get healthy,

1127
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 4: get some of their guys back, particularly a guy like

1128
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 4: die Kwan Jones or somebody like that. Even even those guys,

1129
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 4: get some of those guys back. Dawson Knox, whoever, you want,

1130
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 4: and you can poop who any of these guys if

1131
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 4: you want, I don't care, but you're gonna get healthier.

1132
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 4: And then at the end of the season when you

1133
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 4: do need to, you gotta get in the playoffs, no question.

1134
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 4: And they're not there now, but get to where you're

1135
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:31,280
Speaker 4: playing better through the next two months, eight weeks, eight games,

1136
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 4: nine weeks and eight games. Get to the point where

1137
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 4: you're playing like we've seen them play, this team, this group,

1138
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 4: like you've seen them play, and then see what you

1139
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 4: can do. You can poop, you can say, yeah, yeah,

1140
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 4: they're just gonna they're gonna blow it again in the playoffs. Well, listen,

1141
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 4: let's get there and we'll see, because let's see how

1142
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 4: we're playing. Then I get it. This was a hard

1143
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 4: loss to take a lot of people. A lot of

1144
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 4: people were writing them, even Bills fans were like, I

1145
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 4: don't even think they can beat the Bengals. Well now

1146
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,399
Speaker 4: they don't. Now they're saying, wow, they stink, or they're

1147
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,959
Speaker 4: not elite, or they're all this other stuff. Okay, that's fine.

1148
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 4: They're not playing their best football at the current moment

1149
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 4: due to whatever reasons. But I'm telling you this, I

1150
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 4: want them playing good in two months when they got

1151
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 4: a shit shot to get into the playoffs, and then go,

1152
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 4: that's what you've got to be. You got to give

1153
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 4: yourself a chance to stay in the hunt, get in

1154
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 4: the hunt, get into a playoff position, and then start

1155
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 4: playing your best football in weeks sixteen or seventeen eighteen

1156
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 4: into the playoffs. I get it. I get it. They're

1157
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 4: not elite right now, and they didn't play elite last

1158
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 4: week or this yesterday, and last week was just okay

1159
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 4: even though they won. Let me tell you something, that's

1160
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 4: where you got to You gotta make sure you crescendo

1161
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 4: at the end of the year. Give them a chance

1162
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 4: to get their feet on and get these new guys

1163
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 4: Linvold Joseph's of the world, the Josh Norman's of the world,

1164
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 4: the Dane Jackson is getting healthy of the world, the

1165
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 4: Christian Benford's getting healthy. All these guys getting healthy. Give

1166
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 4: them a chance to get their feet under them health

1167
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 4: wise and talent wise. Find out Dalton kin Kaid's new

1168
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 4: role in this offense gets Shaquille Khalis Shakir a bigger

1169
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 4: role in the offense where you're getting everybody you throw

1170
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 4: it to catches everything and then to see what happens.

1171
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 4: But you know you can sit there and lambassa say

1172
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 4: they are not well, Okay, big deal, it's week nine. Fine,

1173
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 4: there was a minute during this season, a month during

1174
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 4: this season when they were so they'd get and give

1175
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 4: them a chance to catch the breath and get back

1176
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 4: on track. Certainly they could have played better and should

1177
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 4: have played better. But Brownie, and I told you on Friday,

1178
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 4: if you're gonna lose minus two in the turnover ratio, good.

1179
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 2: Night against the team of that Calgary.

1180
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 4: Good night.

1181
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones until Luke on in Ontario.

1182
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 2: What do you got for us? Luke?

1183
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:00,439
Speaker 13: Hey, guys, thanks for taking my carl and the task.

1184
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 13: I love your your glass hoop bull approach, like the positivity.

1185
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 6: We need that, Brownie.

1186
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 13: I hell we do, man, I've agreed a lot of

1187
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 13: the things that you said, Brownie. I think you know

1188
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 13: the fans, in my opinion, like mafia is coming for blood.

1189
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 13: I think, especially when it comes to door seeing the

1190
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 13: offense more so because of the consistency. I think that's

1191
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 13: the biggest thing that we're struggling with. Like even last year,

1192
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 13: you know when we went I believe it was thirteen

1193
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 13: and three. But if you remember, towards the end of

1194
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 13: the year, like we were starting to cut, like things

1195
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 13: were starting to fizzle. We were kind of starting to

1196
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 13: get a little worried. Now mind you, we racked up

1197
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 13: a crapload of injuries and just you know, it just

1198
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 13: didn't work out. And then this year, okay, like you know,

1199
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 13: I'm looking at the games. You start off with the Jets.

1200
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 13: You know, this first game, it's a crazy game. You

1201
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 13: know that's going to happen. Then you know, we got

1202
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 13: the Raiders at home, thirty eight tens. Okay, we go

1203
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 13: to Washington, we come off that like huge confidence, thirty

1204
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 13: seven to three. Then we go into like Miami comes over.

1205
00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 14: I was not worried.

1206
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 13: About that game because their defense was good. We win

1207
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 13: that game forty eight twenty where things really went a ray.

1208
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 13: Is that that Jacksonville travel like it's never been the same,

1209
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 13: you know. And now mind you, we lost again two

1210
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 13: significant defensive like you know, losing Jones and losing Malana,

1211
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 13: like that was big, and these guys are getting big

1212
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 13: beat up. But here's where I'm concerned when it comes

1213
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 13: to Dorsey, and I don't know if The issue is

1214
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 13: just the game plan before we actually get to the game.

1215
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 13: It just maybe the plan wasn't it isn't gonna work.

1216
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:33,919
Speaker 13: And then hence why we're starting off like so bad,

1217
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 13: because let's be honest, right, like the Jacksonville was a

1218
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 13: bit of a nightmare, just didn't work out. We come

1219
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 13: back home, we got the Giants, We're like, okay, let's

1220
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 13: get right, well, we barely.

1221
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 6: Made it through that game.

1222
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 13: Arguably we could have lost. Then we go to to

1223
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 13: the pass. That game's a nightmare, you know. And then

1224
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 13: you know we kind of as the fans are screaming,

1225
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 13: we want we want alan run, we want to go

1226
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 13: back to the way things were. We want to spread offense.

1227
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 13: We want this and that. We see against Tampa Bay,

1228
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 13: we start off well, the defense holds, holds their own

1229
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 13: for us to get through that game.

1230
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 6: Okay.

1231
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 5: Cool.

1232
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 13: Now we're at the Bengals and we're thinking, okay, like

1233
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 13: pretty much the game plan is kind of what I expected.

1234
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 13: I want them to spread, get secure, involved, you know,

1235
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 13: a little bit of cook here and there. You know,

1236
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 13: let's let's like kincaid, is it like that guy is

1237
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 13: a stuck Let's be real, like that guy is you

1238
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 13: can see the eye test is right there. He's gonna

1239
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 13: be awesome, and just you know, we're kind of we

1240
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 13: come out, you know again flat. And the thing is,

1241
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 13: you know, if you want to talk about statistics, okay, cool,

1242
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 13: like we're scoring x amount of points, but the problem

1243
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 13: is the last amount of games is we're struggling and

1244
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 13: then we're trying to we're trying to catch up, and

1245
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 13: then okay.

1246
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 6: We lose by eight.

1247
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 4: We live.

1248
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 13: You know, the final score doesn't look so bad, but

1249
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 13: when you're watching the whole game, it's not looking good.

1250
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 13: And I don't like, it's just confusing what happened. I

1251
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 13: don't know if so many things since twenty twenty one,

1252
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 13: we're throwing that door sea like, hey, we need to

1253
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 13: do a twelve man set, we need need to get

1254
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 13: tight ends of ball, we need we need a better

1255
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 13: running game, you know, we need we need this, we

1256
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 13: need Von Miller, we need when really, in twenty twenty one,

1257
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 13: if you look at that squad the way it was,

1258
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 13: it was a heartbreaking thirteen second loss, but we were

1259
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 13: a flipping good team.

1260
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 6: Like we don't know what would.

1261
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:17,959
Speaker 13: Have happened if we would have got through that game,

1262
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 13: but we were good enough to win and then you know,

1263
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 13: it just fell apart last year and then this year

1264
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 13: it's just such it's so inconsistent. And I think you

1265
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 13: guys can agree to that. And this is why the

1266
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 13: fans are coming after Dorsey. They want blood, because it's like,

1267
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 13: we know we're capable, and I think you guys can agree.

1268
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 14: We can easily score.

1269
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 13: Twenty one points a game at least against whoever we play. Yeah,

1270
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:43,959
Speaker 13: that's the problem is when we're scoring the point.

1271
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right, I get it. That's as it's a

1272
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 4: good point. You're right. And your synopsis, your synopsis of

1273
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 4: the season and last year and where we're at is

1274
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 4: pretty spot on. I mean last year, remember we uh,

1275
01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 4: they started out like a house on fires, the Super

1276
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 4: Bowl favorites coming off the thirteen second game. Everybody's picking

1277
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 4: him and they shot out of a cannon in the

1278
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 4: first month of the season, and then it kind of

1279
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 4: fizzled in the second half. And that, you know, and

1280
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 4: that's kind of where you feel like you're always at

1281
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 4: with this team when it doesn't go well, is that

1282
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 4: the offense just can't find its rhythm. And I'll say this,

1283
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 4: we talk a lot about the twelve personnel and what

1284
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 4: this offense looks like. And here's how it is in

1285
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 4: the NFL, and I think sometimes we forget it it

1286
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,440
Speaker 4: you draft the best players you can. They got Kinkaid

1287
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 4: this year, and he's dyning. He's dynamite. I mean, I

1288
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 4: think he'd be hard pressed to find a Bills fan

1289
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 4: who's not excited about Dalton Kinkaid and what he can

1290
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:41,240
Speaker 4: bring to the offense. But it's Dorsey's job, and Joe

1291
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 4: Brady's job, and Sean mcdermot's job. Is the coaching staff's

1292
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 4: job to run an offense that uses the best traits

1293
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 4: of their best players. Digs. They know what Diggs is about.

1294
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 4: They got it. They know what he's doing. King kid,

1295
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 4: I think they're finding out Kinkaid you can use it

1296
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 4: all right, Uh, James Cook, same thing. They're starting to

1297
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 4: find a place where he can dump out of the backfield,

1298
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 4: get some open find some open space and get some yardage.

1299
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 4: And on a first and ten, now it's a second

1300
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 4: and nine, a second and one kind of plays from

1301
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 4: from James Cook out of the dump down routes. All

1302
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 4: this stuff is new to the team, but that's what

1303
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 4: the offense. It's not like saying, hey, we're gonna run

1304
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 4: twelve personality. You did ran the twelve personnel because you

1305
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 4: had Dawson Knox on the team and and Kinkaid. Do

1306
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 4: you want to get Kinkaid on so you're gonna make

1307
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 4: room for him. The difference is you gotta have your

1308
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 4: offense will run through whoever your best offensive weapons are

1309
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 4: in the best way they can get him the ball.

1310
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 4: And I think that's where this thing starts to, you know,

1311
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 4: skip a beat once in a while, where it's like, well,

1312
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 4: it just looks like they don't know exactly who the

1313
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 4: main guy is gonna be. Once you get past Diggs,

1314
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 4: well then okay, now it starts to look like it's Kincaid.

1315
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 4: But it took him a while to find him. It

1316
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 4: took Shakir only comes in once in a while. But man,

1317
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 4: Shakir has got a really high productive he's really catch ratio,

1318
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 4: he's catching everything. He's doing well. So I think, you know,

1319
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 4: I think the simple fact of the matter is it

1320
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 4: seems like they're afraid to go full throttle and say

1321
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 4: let's go like they did against the Buccaneers, like they

1322
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 4: had last like last night. At times late in the

1323
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 4: game and even in that first series, they're throwing it.

1324
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 4: Let's go.

1325
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 2: But that's that's the problem. They're trading wins and losses

1326
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 2: every other week. In the last six weeks, they've won,

1327
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 2: they've lost, they've won, they've lost, they've won, they've lost.

1328
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 2: And I think Bill's fans believe that this team is

1329
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 2: capable of better consistency than that, and that's why they're

1330
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 2: frustrated right now.

1331
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:54,919
Speaker 4: You think it would be it would it be different? Though?

1332
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 4: If they beat the Patriots, you know.

1333
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 2: Well, that's that's a game that most Bills fans feel

1334
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 2: you should win. You should win that game against It

1335
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 2: also ran in your division. Didn't happen. You should have

1336
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 2: beaten the Giants handily. Didn't happen. You won, but didn't

1337
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 2: look good. So that that's the issue. I think Bills

1338
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 2: fans believe this team is better than their showing on

1339
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 2: a week to week basis, and the continuity week to

1340
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 2: week and even within games is not what people anticipated

1341
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 2: it to be. Let's go back to the phones and

1342
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 2: to build down in Texas. What do you got for

1343
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:30,479
Speaker 2: his Bill?

1344
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 15: He My question to you guys is when is somebody

1345
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 15: gonna look up and realize this offensive line is not

1346
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 15: very good.

1347
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 6: Well, that hadn't been good.

1348
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 14: They can't run the ball.

1349
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 15: Yeah, you brought in running back after running back and

1350
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:49,440
Speaker 15: Moss Lee's moss starts running well where he's at. And

1351
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 15: you keep bringing in people like the old man you

1352
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 15: just brought in, who's washed up, hadn't been very good

1353
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 15: in two years. To be honest.

1354
01:06:58,680 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 13: You know who Buffalo is right now.

1355
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 15: They're the Miami Dolphins in the late eighties and early nineties.

1356
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 15: You got a great quarterback, you got some decent receivers,

1357
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 15: but you're not gonna win a lot of games that way.

1358
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 15: So you better find you a better receiver than Gabe

1359
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 15: Davis because he ain't the answer to any question that

1360
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 15: you got. And I'll hang up and let's go Buffalo,

1361
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 15: all right.

1362
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 2: Thanks Bill. I mean, I won't disagree that the offensive

1363
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:26,440
Speaker 2: line had trouble resetting the line of scrimmage last night.

1364
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 2: I won't debate that for a second. You do have

1365
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:30,760
Speaker 2: one of the best nose tackles in the game that

1366
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 2: you were going against in DJ Reider, and BJ Hill's

1367
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 2: a pretty darn good undertackle as well. Those guys were

1368
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 2: wreaking havoc on the interior and then This is the

1369
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 2: bottom line. And I said this in the pregame roundtable

1370
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 2: on the Bills Radio Network last night. The Cincinnati Bengals

1371
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 2: are a bad matchup for Buffalo because they are a

1372
01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 2: black and blue, punchy in the mouth team. Why because

1373
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 2: they play in the AFC North, that is the black

1374
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 2: and blue division of this league, without question, and nobody

1375
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 2: comes close to touching them. And you watch watch what

1376
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:09,959
Speaker 2: happens to Cincinnati because in three of the next four

1377
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 2: weeks they've got AFC North opponents. They're gonna get beat

1378
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 2: up a little bit. And that's why they're built the

1379
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 2: way that they are, because to win their division, that's

1380
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:21,800
Speaker 2: how they have to play. That physical style is a

1381
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 2: challenge for a team like Buffalo who is built to

1382
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 2: beat teams like Miami. So it's a dichotomy in philosophy,

1383
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 2: and based on the last two matchups, it clearly favors

1384
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 2: Cincinnati and the Bills run into this problem. Sometimes they

1385
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:41,639
Speaker 2: can't win at the line of scrimmage for whatever reason.

1386
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:45,320
Speaker 2: To our last callers point, maybe it's because they're just

1387
01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:47,639
Speaker 2: not good enough. I don't know if that's the case

1388
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 2: or if they just had a bad week, but we've

1389
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 2: seen this before, they have trouble winning at the line

1390
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:55,120
Speaker 2: of scrimmage and the run game suffers as a result. Now, look,

1391
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 2: i'd be the first guy to tell you they got

1392
01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:58,599
Speaker 2: to throw it more than they run in any way.

1393
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 2: But you want to be able to at least turn

1394
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:03,400
Speaker 2: to the run game when you need to in a

1395
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 2: short yardage situation or down in the red zone. And

1396
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:08,559
Speaker 2: they were doing that early in the season, but they're

1397
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:13,560
Speaker 2: not doing it now. And once you have lou Anarumo,

1398
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:16,400
Speaker 2: the defensive coordinator for the Bengals, in a situation where

1399
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 2: he knows your team's one dimensional because you can't run

1400
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 2: the football, he's got you. He's gonna have answers for you.

1401
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 2: And for most of that day last night he did.

1402
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 2: And that's why they call him lou DEENI in Cincinnati.

1403
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:30,719
Speaker 2: That's what they call him lou DEENI because he's got

1404
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 2: something every single week. I'm telling you, I hate to

1405
01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:36,800
Speaker 2: tell this to Bills fans, but the Bengals right now,

1406
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 2: in terms of their coaching staff, are the closest thing

1407
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:42,640
Speaker 2: to Belichick's old staff in the league. They come up

1408
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 2: with something new for their opponent each and every week.

1409
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:51,680
Speaker 2: There's a wrinkle, there's a personnel change last night. It's

1410
01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:53,640
Speaker 2: the tight ends. They got four tight ends up on

1411
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 2: the roster and they don't just play. They got ten

1412
01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:58,800
Speaker 2: catches for one hundred and one yards and two touchdowns

1413
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:01,720
Speaker 2: because they're anticipating that the Bills are gonna focus on

1414
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:05,840
Speaker 2: shutting down Jamar Chase. The Bills did that. Bengals had

1415
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 2: an answer and that it's tough to have all the

1416
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:10,599
Speaker 2: answers when the other team has answers at the ready

1417
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 2: and you have to adjust to them. But that's what

1418
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:15,920
Speaker 2: happened last night, and they do it every week. That

1419
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:16,799
Speaker 2: coaching still.

1420
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 4: I'll say it again. I mean, you go into that

1421
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 4: game for Bills fans and you would have been in there.

1422
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:23,639
Speaker 4: I know you. We all would have been in this boat.

1423
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:28,599
Speaker 4: If you're if here, he's standing there and the Bills

1424
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:30,720
Speaker 4: Bills fans will say, and the Bengals will tell you, say,

1425
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:34,240
Speaker 4: we're gonna beat you with Hudson Sample and Irfsmith, not

1426
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 4: Jamar Chase. Higgins will have a nice day, but Tyler

1427
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 4: Boyd and Jamar Chase won't do really too much of anything.

1428
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 4: We're gonna beat you with three tight ends, one of

1429
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 4: which was on the practice squad. You'd say, okay, as

1430
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:47,920
Speaker 4: Bill signed up for I'll sign up for it. Let's

1431
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 4: do that. Well, they got it done, but they scored

1432
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:52,920
Speaker 4: only twenty four points doing it. But it was enough

1433
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:55,559
Speaker 4: because you couldn't answer them and you know, a couple

1434
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 4: of turnovers.

1435
01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 2: Two of your other three phases were something yeah.

1436
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 4: So it's a field position and turnovers. You know that's enough.

1437
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:02,559
Speaker 2: Yep.

1438
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:08,639
Speaker 4: So not now having said that and following that question,

1439
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:11,680
Speaker 4: that statement up with an obvious question, we don't know

1440
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 4: what Cincinnati would have answered with had it got into

1441
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:17,840
Speaker 4: you know, crunch time for them. Because they were up

1442
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:19,720
Speaker 4: twenty one seven and a half, they really didn't have

1443
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:21,240
Speaker 4: to go with ju deep into their bag of tricks

1444
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 4: right then, they could play the long game and just

1445
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 4: you know, play the three possessions they struggled. So you know,

1446
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 4: I think Bills fans would have signed up for it.

1447
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:34,839
Speaker 4: And that's what the Bill's defensive game plan was designed

1448
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 4: to do. If the Bengals are gonna beat us, they're

1449
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 4: gonna have to do it playing left handed, and we're

1450
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 4: still gonna hold them off the scoreboard a little bit.

1451
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 4: The twenty four is you know, it's kind of a

1452
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:45,800
Speaker 4: coin flip, right there between twenty and twenty four points

1453
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 4: twenty Yeah, right around in there is right around kind

1454
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 4: of the like fifty to fifty win, right but against

1455
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:57,679
Speaker 4: the offense with Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase and t Higgins

1456
01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:00,439
Speaker 4: and two turnovers and a couple of turnovers, that's that's

1457
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 4: a good day.

1458
01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:01,639
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1459
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 4: So that's the kind of game you get into. So

1460
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 4: and that's what the Bills defense did was pretty much Yeah, okay,

1461
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 4: I could see it. You know, that's kind of where

1462
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:14,280
Speaker 4: you got to play those.

1463
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 2: While I'm not putting it on the defense. Let's go

1464
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:17,599
Speaker 2: back to the phones and too, Mark and West Seneca.

1465
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 2: What do you got for us?

1466
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:22,200
Speaker 16: Mark, gentlemen, gentlemen, gentlemen, I've been waiting to get on,

1467
01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 16: and I'm sure you guys get tired of this topic.

1468
01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:28,720
Speaker 16: I want to visit the offense and Dorsey. I got

1469
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:33,320
Speaker 16: a couple of points about the game. My belief is

1470
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 16: Dorsey's biggest weakness is I'm not going to argue about

1471
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:42,280
Speaker 16: play in particular. Play calling in individual situations is sometimes strategy.

1472
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:44,880
Speaker 16: And this is what I mean by this. It's we're

1473
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:48,439
Speaker 16: down two touchdowns, third quarter, we're on their eighteen yard line.

1474
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 16: It's third and nine, okay, and they call a fade

1475
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 16: pattern to the back corner of the end zone where

1476
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 16: Josh has to drop back to the twenty five yard

1477
01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 16: line and put thirty five to forty yards of airball

1478
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:02,400
Speaker 16: underneath to play. That's a low percentage play in the

1479
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:05,800
Speaker 16: first place, rather than looking at it and saying, we

1480
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:08,080
Speaker 16: got two downs to get nine yards or at least

1481
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 16: two shots at the end zone. Okay, we had to

1482
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 16: get a touchdown there otherwise the game was pretty much

1483
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 16: going to be lost. We knew that we're playing the

1484
01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 16: Cincinnati Bengals. What kind of strategy is that? Context situational play?

1485
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:23,120
Speaker 10: Okay?

1486
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:24,880
Speaker 16: And I know you're gonna say, well, he's not pulling

1487
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:27,360
Speaker 16: the trigger. Well, if he's not pulling the trigger and

1488
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 16: Josh is pulling the trigger, isn't it Ken Jersey's job

1489
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:35,000
Speaker 16: to impress upon Josh from Monday through Friday Saturday that

1490
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:38,879
Speaker 16: in this situation, you have to realize you're the field general,

1491
01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:41,840
Speaker 16: you're not the guy that's gotta be a hero, and

1492
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 16: you've got to run the team to give us the

1493
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:47,320
Speaker 16: best percentage and chance to win. That has to be

1494
01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 16: impressed upon him. Either way, if it's Dorsey's strategy, it's

1495
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 16: not good enough. And if it's Dorsey not controlling and

1496
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 16: teaching Josh and working with Josh properly and getting him

1497
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:00,800
Speaker 16: to do what he's supposed to do, failing us in

1498
01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:05,479
Speaker 16: both situations. Secondly, first and ten on our eleven yard line.

1499
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:09,680
Speaker 16: I'm all for shot plays, okay, but again context situation.

1500
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 16: We are playing the Cincinnati Bengals. You take a shot

1501
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 16: down the field, I love it, but not from the

1502
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 16: eleven yard line. If you don't hit it, low percentage pass. Okay,

1503
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:21,840
Speaker 16: If you hit it, great, chances are you're probably not,

1504
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 16: but you're backing them off. That's great. Chances are you

1505
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 16: maybe punting then after at least maybe one first down

1506
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:30,600
Speaker 16: or no first down. Now you're putting the ball to

1507
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:33,759
Speaker 16: midfield instead of if you get a couple of first downs,

1508
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 16: two three first downs, you're punting the ball deep into

1509
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:39,320
Speaker 16: their territory. Okay, and maybe not last night the way

1510
01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:42,680
Speaker 16: Martin punted, But that's a whole other issue. Okay. So

1511
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:46,639
Speaker 16: I mean the strategies of sometimes what he does within

1512
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:50,720
Speaker 16: games just absolutely drives me crazy as to what are

1513
01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 16: you thinking? Are you thinking the big picture? Are you

1514
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:55,519
Speaker 16: aware of who you're playing? One and how you're gonna

1515
01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:57,719
Speaker 16: take your shots, and then we'll get into the plays

1516
01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:00,600
Speaker 16: you call. Okay, I'm never gonna ade you about that.

1517
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:03,840
Speaker 16: Do this, do that, whatever, Okay. And then, as far

1518
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:06,840
Speaker 16: as you know, we had only two passes that were

1519
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:10,439
Speaker 16: not completed. It wasn't good enough. Look at the stats.

1520
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 16: They had the ball for over twenty one minutes in

1521
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:16,639
Speaker 16: the first half when the game was on the line,

1522
01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 16: when you're fighting for possession, and see who's going to

1523
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:21,799
Speaker 16: be up and who's chasing who in the game. Okay,

1524
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:27,760
Speaker 16: twenty one minutes. Obviously the underneath game, the completions to

1525
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:30,000
Speaker 16: the four guys who were catching the ball, they weren't

1526
01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:34,280
Speaker 16: moving to chains enough, so it's really irrelevant. It's absolutely had.

1527
01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 16: We didn't even have the ball nine minutes in the

1528
01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:39,840
Speaker 16: first half. That's why we were down when we needed

1529
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:43,320
Speaker 16: I'm sorry, I'm getting lost in my thoughts, but this

1530
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:46,439
Speaker 16: offense has been being has been failing this team for

1531
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:49,519
Speaker 16: a season, almost a full season now, the second half

1532
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:52,599
Speaker 16: of last year and now we got tons of injuries

1533
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:55,000
Speaker 16: last year, we got tons of injuries this year again

1534
01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:57,160
Speaker 16: on the defensive side of the ball. We need the

1535
01:15:57,200 --> 01:16:00,720
Speaker 16: offense to carry this team. We have the personnel to

1536
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 16: do it, and the strategies and the play calling and

1537
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:08,840
Speaker 16: the context of the game planning is just absolutely horrendous.

1538
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:11,519
Speaker 4: Okay, thank you, Okay, thanks Mark, that's good.

1539
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:13,560
Speaker 2: Stata jump here. Thanks.

1540
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:16,800
Speaker 4: Here's the thing. You're right, you can you can do

1541
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:19,639
Speaker 4: that the first half time of possession. And we said

1542
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:21,760
Speaker 4: this earlier in the show. One of the things you

1543
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 4: wish the defense could have done better was get him

1544
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:28,479
Speaker 4: off the field. Maybe want a quicker, certainly, and I

1545
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:31,840
Speaker 4: saw this on last night. Somebody's going yet. Josh Allen

1546
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 4: is four of nine passing in the first half. That

1547
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:39,639
Speaker 4: is that's on Ken Dorsey. They only had ten plays

1548
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:42,439
Speaker 4: or fifteen plays, I mean they had he was throwing

1549
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:46,000
Speaker 4: the ball sixty six percent of the time they had

1550
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:49,800
Speaker 4: the ball for ten offensive plays. They had four rush

1551
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:54,840
Speaker 4: four rushing attempts by Cook, one rushing attempt by Josh Allen,

1552
01:16:55,360 --> 01:17:01,080
Speaker 4: and nine pass attempt or fifteen pass attempts fifteen, so

1553
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:05,479
Speaker 4: that twenty offensive plays and he threw the ball fifteen times.

1554
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:07,519
Speaker 2: I will say there is something to be said to

1555
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 2: Mark's point about recognition of time and score, how the

1556
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:14,440
Speaker 2: game is going, flow of the game, how many opportunities

1557
01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 2: you're probably going to get based on the way the

1558
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:19,679
Speaker 2: game is unfolding. And so yeah, I wasn't crazy about

1559
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:21,320
Speaker 2: the fade pass to the end zone on third and

1560
01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 2: nine either. It is not a high percentage play. It's

1561
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:27,760
Speaker 2: probably two down territory. Hopefully, you know, the head coach

1562
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:30,040
Speaker 2: is telling him, you got two plays here, and Ken

1563
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:32,800
Speaker 2: Dorsey can pick something from the menu that's a higher

1564
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:35,040
Speaker 2: percentage play to at least get half of that yardage

1565
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:37,160
Speaker 2: on third down, so fourth downs a little bit easier,

1566
01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:39,200
Speaker 2: or you're taking two shots at the end zone. To

1567
01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:41,559
Speaker 2: Mark's point, I also don't like when it's on the

1568
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 2: goal line and you got Josh and shotgun strategy. Again,

1569
01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 2: I'll go along with the argument there, Mark, I understand it.

1570
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:52,320
Speaker 2: Does it have to be better? Are there better ways

1571
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:57,519
Speaker 2: to skin the cat? I'm sure there are. He hasn't

1572
01:17:57,520 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 2: come up with him to this point. Hopefully that changes

1573
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:04,040
Speaker 2: rather than later, because the way the offense is playing

1574
01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:08,559
Speaker 2: right now, they are not routinely scoring thirty points a game,

1575
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:11,479
Speaker 2: especially when they're on the road, where they're averaging a

1576
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:15,000
Speaker 2: full touchdown less. This season, they are one to four

1577
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:17,479
Speaker 2: on the road. They average twenty three points a game

1578
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:21,599
Speaker 2: at home, they average thirty. It's a one touchdown difference,

1579
01:18:21,720 --> 01:18:23,320
Speaker 2: which may not sound like a lot to some, but

1580
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 2: on average, that's pretty big. And it's obviously been the

1581
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:29,160
Speaker 2: difference between winning and losing, because you have a four

1582
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:31,920
Speaker 2: point loss to the Patriots, you have a six point

1583
01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 2: loss to the to the Bengals yesterday for whatever it's

1584
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:39,280
Speaker 2: in London, and five points in London, so three points

1585
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:41,679
Speaker 2: in that extra touchdowns making a difference.

1586
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:43,240
Speaker 4: Six points in New York too.

1587
01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 2: That extra points, that extra touchdowns making a difference. So

1588
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:50,240
Speaker 2: it is hinging on Buffalo's season. They got to be

1589
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 2: better on the road, I would agree. Mark strategy is

1590
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 2: a part of it, recognizing time and score and call

1591
01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 2: in the right places. We got to take a break

1592
01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:58,719
Speaker 2: here more of your phone calls, and we go around

1593
01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:00,360
Speaker 2: the locker room as well. When we return and here

1594
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:20,800
Speaker 2: on one Bill's Live. All right, back here on one

1595
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:22,800
Speaker 2: Bill's Live. We're gonna get to the calls in just

1596
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:26,679
Speaker 2: a second. We have to quickly go around the locker room,

1597
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:30,760
Speaker 2: which we're gonna do here and around the locker room

1598
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:36,400
Speaker 2: is presented by connect Life, your blood and organ donor network,

1599
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:39,640
Speaker 2: and we begin with quarterback Josh Allen, who spoke on

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01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:43,680
Speaker 2: the offensive issues against the Bengals along with that controversial

1601
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:48,880
Speaker 2: along with the controversial intentional grounding penalty.

1602
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:57,439
Speaker 17: I obviously hit a roll there and didn't score really

1603
01:19:57,479 --> 01:19:59,959
Speaker 17: tour to late and the fourth we had our opportunities,

1604
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:03,639
Speaker 17: didn't score before half, didn't get six on the first

1605
01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 17: drive of the second half. That's not complimentary football. You know,

1606
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 17: you had a double dip and get into points there

1607
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:14,519
Speaker 17: and give yourself a chance. And you know, and it's

1608
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 17: the old cliche in order to win, you gotta stop

1609
01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 17: yourself from losing them.

1610
01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:18,760
Speaker 2: We didn't do that tonight.

1611
01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:24,200
Speaker 17: I've never seen that call in my life. That's an

1612
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 17: option route gave, considered down or go. I wasn't pressured.

1613
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 17: They decided to make that call and and you know,

1614
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:36,400
Speaker 17: unfortunately didn't allow us to to get points there. I literally,

1615
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:38,840
Speaker 17: I wouldn't do anything different. You know, I'm expecting him

1616
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:41,559
Speaker 17: to run a go. He made the read to stop,

1617
01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:43,960
Speaker 17: you know, and that's that's what it is.

1618
01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:48,800
Speaker 2: And then head coach Sean McDermott was asked in his

1619
01:20:48,840 --> 01:20:52,240
Speaker 2: post game press conference about the lapse in the offensive

1620
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:54,400
Speaker 2: production for a span of about two and a half

1621
01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:58,080
Speaker 2: quarters after they're very successful opening drive. Here's coach McDermott

1622
01:20:58,120 --> 01:20:58,840
Speaker 2: on what happened there.

1623
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:01,960
Speaker 18: I thought we got off to a really good start

1624
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:06,439
Speaker 18: inter rhythm, and then after that it was tough sledding

1625
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:13,200
Speaker 18: and and so that can't happen, right, I mean against

1626
01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:15,559
Speaker 18: a good football team that scores, that's known for scoring

1627
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 18: points and a good quarterback, you gotta be able to

1628
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:21,760
Speaker 18: score points and and uh, and we didn't do it

1629
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:23,000
Speaker 18: enough opposite.

1630
01:21:23,439 --> 01:21:26,519
Speaker 2: And then finally uh pass rusher Von Miller who played

1631
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:29,640
Speaker 2: in this game. On the defensive performance overall and the

1632
01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:31,920
Speaker 2: injuries they incurred on that side of the ball through

1633
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:32,919
Speaker 2: the course of the game.

1634
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:35,680
Speaker 19: We felt good all the way up until you know

1635
01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:38,080
Speaker 19: that last. But we had a great week of practice,

1636
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:42,400
Speaker 19: a great game plan. Just started a tab uh slow

1637
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 19: you know would be good though, Wipe us off and

1638
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:45,599
Speaker 19: keep going.

1639
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:47,639
Speaker 4: Where's the frustration level with the injuries?

1640
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:48,080
Speaker 5: Deepense?

1641
01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:49,439
Speaker 14: I mean it seems like every week you've.

1642
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:50,679
Speaker 4: Got a new major change.

1643
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:53,520
Speaker 19: Yeah, it just that happens. You know, you just gotta

1644
01:21:53,680 --> 01:21:55,000
Speaker 19: you gotta keep working, keep riding.

1645
01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:56,799
Speaker 5: We got a.

1646
01:21:56,120 --> 01:21:57,519
Speaker 19: Solid group of guys in.

1647
01:21:57,479 --> 01:21:59,080
Speaker 5: The locker room.

1648
01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 19: We got Depp and on not three phases of defense, defensive, linebacker, secondary,

1649
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:07,439
Speaker 19: You know, we get some guys back. They're one too

1650
01:22:07,439 --> 01:22:10,720
Speaker 19: serious today. We just got to keep pushing on it.

1651
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:13,840
Speaker 2: All right. So that's around the locker room presented by

1652
01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:17,479
Speaker 2: connect Life, your Blood and organ Donor Network. Back to

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01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:19,760
Speaker 2: the phones and to Dave and Orchard Park. What do

1654
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 2: you got for us day? You're on one Bill's Live.

1655
01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:25,000
Speaker 20: Gentlemen, Let's just put the whole thing in perspective. And

1656
01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:27,080
Speaker 20: I'm not even going to get into Dorsy because he's

1657
01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:29,920
Speaker 20: not the reason why this team is losing. They're inconsistent.

1658
01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:33,519
Speaker 20: Win one, lose one. We've seen it all year. Is

1659
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 20: the other callers had mentioned the thirteen seconds might have

1660
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:39,840
Speaker 20: been our apex, and we've gone down hell ever since?

1661
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:43,240
Speaker 20: Bean asked? Has the question asked to him early this

1662
01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:45,639
Speaker 20: week and he said, we're looking for an identity. You're

1663
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:49,000
Speaker 20: eight games beyond in the season. What identity you have?

1664
01:22:49,120 --> 01:22:52,880
Speaker 20: No identity? McDermott yesterday after they you just played the

1665
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:54,559
Speaker 20: sound bite. I wish you would have continue the sound

1666
01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 20: bite when McDermott says, I don't know, well you don't

1667
01:22:57,320 --> 01:22:59,720
Speaker 20: know about the past start and then you all of

1668
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:02,400
Speaker 20: a sudd and things slowed down. Are you endorsed even

1669
01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:06,960
Speaker 20: speaking Where the hell's the disconnect? Alan blaming himself week

1670
01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:10,040
Speaker 20: after week. Oh yeah, we know he's thrown interceptions, but

1671
01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:12,479
Speaker 20: beyond he and Diggs and yesterday we had a bright

1672
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:13,360
Speaker 20: moment with Kinkaid.

1673
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:14,360
Speaker 6: Now for two weeks in.

1674
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:18,960
Speaker 20: A row, this offense has nobody else beyond consistent play

1675
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:22,519
Speaker 20: of either Alan, Digs and Alcon Kaid Cook was non existent.

1676
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:24,960
Speaker 20: Why we picked up Sherfield and Hardy is beyond me.

1677
01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:27,559
Speaker 20: The only reason why Hardy's returning kicks is because Heines

1678
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 20: is out for the season. You got an attempted I

1679
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:33,439
Speaker 20: guess leef flicker, double reverse, whatever the hell they tried

1680
01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:35,559
Speaker 20: pulling there in the second half that went for absolutely

1681
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:37,800
Speaker 20: nothing at all. I think it was an incomplete pass,

1682
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:39,519
Speaker 20: and I'm saying who came up with that play is

1683
01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:42,800
Speaker 20: beyond me. You got a five and four record right now,

1684
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:45,720
Speaker 20: Not one Bills fan, including YouTube gentlemen, are going to

1685
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:47,160
Speaker 20: tell me that you thought this team was going to

1686
01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:49,320
Speaker 20: be five and four at this point of the season.

1687
01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:51,360
Speaker 20: I figured after ten games we were going to be

1688
01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:53,959
Speaker 20: at least eight and two with a loss to the Bengals.

1689
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:56,160
Speaker 20: Out of those two losses, out of an eight and

1690
01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 20: two record, now you've got a Denver team, another wounded

1691
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:03,680
Speaker 20: analytic like New England and the Bucks and everybody else,

1692
01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:06,000
Speaker 20: the Giants. God only knows what's going to happen next

1693
01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 20: Monday night. Then you got the Jets coming in here,

1694
01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:10,439
Speaker 20: and then you look at Philadelphia, and then finally, finally

1695
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:12,479
Speaker 20: we get a buy so everybody can try to get healthy.

1696
01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 20: Like Steve said, it might be too late by then.

1697
01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:17,800
Speaker 20: They've got a gauntlet of a schedule, as you guys

1698
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:19,760
Speaker 20: are pointed out, and every other fan knows who's coming

1699
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:22,920
Speaker 20: into this season. And look at that schedule. Four out

1700
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:25,160
Speaker 20: of the last six games in the road, and right

1701
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:26,680
Speaker 20: now we're going to say, well, we need to get

1702
01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:28,160
Speaker 20: healthy and we're going to try to put together a

1703
01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:31,080
Speaker 20: winning streak. I personally don't see it. I hope I'm wrong,

1704
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:31,880
Speaker 20: but I don't see it.

1705
01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:36,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's tough, you're right, Dave, because like I said, certainly,

1706
01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:39,840
Speaker 4: I've always made Brannie, I've always maintained this, and I

1707
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:41,880
Speaker 4: thought about it last. I mentioned it last year early

1708
01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:43,519
Speaker 4: in the season, when you know, they came into the

1709
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:45,879
Speaker 4: season as a Super Bowl favorites and they were juggernaut

1710
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:47,439
Speaker 4: and they got out of the block. It's hard to

1711
01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 4: play good for seventeen eighteen weeks. It's hard and I

1712
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:56,160
Speaker 4: think right now, particularly given taking a go win loss,

1713
01:24:56,200 --> 01:24:59,160
Speaker 4: win loss, win loss, and coming off that third loss

1714
01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:02,800
Speaker 4: like you know, last night, it's hard to sit here

1715
01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:07,080
Speaker 4: and say wow, with the Eagles and the Chiefs and

1716
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:11,519
Speaker 4: the Cowboys and the Jets coming up on the schedule,

1717
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:14,240
Speaker 4: It's like, man, how do you get optimistic about winning

1718
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:16,960
Speaker 4: a ton of games and starting to play well down

1719
01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:19,759
Speaker 4: the stretch and we're trying to stay in the race

1720
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:22,880
Speaker 4: even you know, So it is a tough It's a

1721
01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:27,120
Speaker 4: tough Monday after a loss like that. I mean, yeah, okay,

1722
01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:29,760
Speaker 4: you got some help yesterday. The Dolphins took it on

1723
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:31,840
Speaker 4: the chin, and maybe the Jets get beat by the

1724
01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:35,639
Speaker 4: by the Chargers tonight, keeps you one game out of it. Okay, maybe,

1725
01:25:35,720 --> 01:25:38,800
Speaker 4: but man, oh man, I get it. They're playing inconsistently

1726
01:25:38,920 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 4: right now. The only thing I can tell you is

1727
01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:46,040
Speaker 4: this this code. And for all the poop poo and

1728
01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 4: that people are doing today about the coaching staff of

1729
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:52,799
Speaker 4: the Bills, you gotta think they can see the exact

1730
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:58,200
Speaker 4: same things that you're seeing, and they're gonna make adjustments.

1731
01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:01,479
Speaker 4: They got to. They've always been very good at course

1732
01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 4: correction under Sean McDermott. Maybe this means maybe this goes

1733
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:07,519
Speaker 4: a little a layer deeper than they've ever had to

1734
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:11,120
Speaker 4: go before with some injuries and now some philosophical changes

1735
01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:14,920
Speaker 4: and some different guys on the team that are good.

1736
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:18,680
Speaker 4: For instance, you know, maybe it's not maybe it's not

1737
01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:21,320
Speaker 4: the secondary with Tredevius White and these guys you know

1738
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:23,639
Speaker 4: on on the field that they're gonna lean on. Maybe

1739
01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:25,800
Speaker 4: it is going to be the front six, maybe the

1740
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:27,840
Speaker 4: front seven, or maybe they're gonna have to do some

1741
01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:31,120
Speaker 4: things differently. Defensively, although I've already done that, although you

1742
01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:33,880
Speaker 4: know they're doing some they're they're keeping their heads above

1743
01:26:33,920 --> 01:26:39,320
Speaker 4: water defensively. Offensively, they got some different dudes now. Gabe

1744
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:43,559
Speaker 4: Davis caught zero passes last night as the number two

1745
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:47,280
Speaker 4: wide receiver. Zero. I'm not gonna go along with you

1746
01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:49,840
Speaker 4: and say, hey, James Cook is now the guys the

1747
01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:52,519
Speaker 4: guy is catching everything. He's doing what they ask him

1748
01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:54,760
Speaker 4: to do. He's making some pretty good runs out of

1749
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:59,120
Speaker 4: two yard losses into two yard gains. Uh with the

1750
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:00,800
Speaker 4: ball in his hands when they handed to him. He's

1751
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:03,040
Speaker 4: catching the ball well and making some things happen down

1752
01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:07,600
Speaker 4: the field. kN Kaid is a pleasant surprise, and I

1753
01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:09,840
Speaker 4: get it. Everybody's like, well they don't have you know,

1754
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:11,640
Speaker 4: they're throwing their arms up going how can you not know?

1755
01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:15,920
Speaker 4: You're listen. The identity of this offense seems to be

1756
01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:20,000
Speaker 4: constantly changing. They're just now finding out that the Khalis

1757
01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:22,920
Speaker 4: Shakir can catch everything. They're just now finding out that

1758
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:26,120
Speaker 4: King Kaid is a force, you know, and they're they're

1759
01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:29,799
Speaker 4: sitting there now. They've got Diggs, who is come. Digs

1760
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:32,439
Speaker 4: is elite. You can't look at it any other way.

1761
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:35,559
Speaker 4: The guy is on it every week in a in

1762
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:40,040
Speaker 4: a on an offense where the defense knows he's their guy.

1763
01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:43,880
Speaker 4: And in the month, months and weeks past, Diggs has

1764
01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:46,840
Speaker 4: been the only guy and he still shows up. He

1765
01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:50,360
Speaker 4: still shows up. So with all that going on, they're

1766
01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:52,519
Speaker 4: still finding out about King Kid. And I think they

1767
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:54,840
Speaker 4: know now. I think they trust him. I think now that,

1768
01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:57,320
Speaker 4: and I think another thing, I think they trust Shakir

1769
01:27:57,400 --> 01:27:59,640
Speaker 4: now he's on that. He took seventy one percent of

1770
01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:03,719
Speaker 4: the snap by far, his highest percentage of his career,

1771
01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:06,960
Speaker 4: and that was last night, caught four targets that all

1772
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:09,439
Speaker 4: of them were thrown to him made made a difference.

1773
01:28:09,479 --> 01:28:11,800
Speaker 4: Cook same thing, caught all four targets that were thrown

1774
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:14,680
Speaker 4: to him. They're finding out about these guys. And if

1775
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:16,800
Speaker 4: you want to say something's let's do more of that.

1776
01:28:18,120 --> 01:28:22,240
Speaker 4: Diggs is fine, kin kgs fine. If you're not gonna

1777
01:28:22,240 --> 01:28:28,120
Speaker 4: if you can't run it, don't throw it. Spread them

1778
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:29,960
Speaker 4: out and go a little faster. And I get it.

1779
01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:34,080
Speaker 4: With a depleted defense, and with a defensive line that's

1780
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:36,719
Speaker 4: been decimated by injury, maybe you're a little bit reticent

1781
01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:39,720
Speaker 4: saying I don't know. I don't it's a big risk

1782
01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:41,720
Speaker 4: because if they get the ball back, you know, I

1783
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:43,320
Speaker 4: don't know how it's going to change. They had the

1784
01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:45,360
Speaker 4: ball twenty minutes of the first half of the they

1785
01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:48,559
Speaker 4: had the ball twenty one minutes of the first thirty

1786
01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:49,320
Speaker 4: minutes of the game.

1787
01:28:49,360 --> 01:28:51,639
Speaker 2: Offensively, well, that's fine if your offense is scoring.

1788
01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:54,200
Speaker 4: But they're not scoring, right, So I don't know what

1789
01:28:54,240 --> 01:28:57,280
Speaker 4: you're you feel like you're risking there playing with the leader,

1790
01:28:57,320 --> 01:28:58,679
Speaker 4: not playing with the lead. I don't know if there's

1791
01:28:58,680 --> 01:29:01,160
Speaker 4: the big difference with the guys on the you're gonna

1792
01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:05,479
Speaker 4: play defense no matter what. So I think that's where

1793
01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 4: you're at. I think this, I think it's now it's

1794
01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:10,960
Speaker 4: time to shift gears offensively and go with what has

1795
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:13,080
Speaker 4: proven to this point of the season to be your

1796
01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:16,000
Speaker 4: go tos. And now you got, in my opinion, you

1797
01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:18,320
Speaker 4: got more weapons now that are that are doing some

1798
01:29:18,360 --> 01:29:23,160
Speaker 4: stuff than you've had in four years. Shakier's catching everything,

1799
01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:27,120
Speaker 4: can Cage catching everything, Diggs is catching everything. Cook has

1800
01:29:27,160 --> 01:29:29,240
Speaker 4: turned into a little bit more of a gritty runner

1801
01:29:29,240 --> 01:29:32,280
Speaker 4: than I gave him credit for. And you can certainly

1802
01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:34,240
Speaker 4: catch the ball and run with it. So all of

1803
01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:39,720
Speaker 4: that stuff, I'm thinking, man, that's that's pretty good. So

1804
01:29:39,960 --> 01:29:42,400
Speaker 4: how about not so how about not turning how about

1805
01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:46,880
Speaker 4: not turning it over and and taking deep shots when

1806
01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:50,280
Speaker 4: they're there instead of forcing a shot down with Deontay

1807
01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:52,960
Speaker 4: Hardy when he's doubled, you know, or a fade ball

1808
01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:55,760
Speaker 4: on first and goal on the nine, take it when

1809
01:29:55,760 --> 01:29:56,519
Speaker 4: it's there, you know.

1810
01:29:56,760 --> 01:29:57,800
Speaker 2: That's what's so frustrating.

1811
01:29:57,920 --> 01:29:58,160
Speaker 4: I think.

1812
01:29:58,360 --> 01:30:00,639
Speaker 2: I think they're saying, all of those things are there

1813
01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:03,280
Speaker 2: that you're pointing out, Steve, and yet the point production

1814
01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:06,439
Speaker 2: is not and they can't. The two plus two is

1815
01:30:06,439 --> 01:30:08,320
Speaker 2: not adding up for them, and that's why they're frustrated.

1816
01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:11,479
Speaker 2: And I understand because They certainly look talented enough and

1817
01:30:11,479 --> 01:30:14,280
Speaker 2: capable enough, and for some reason the point production is

1818
01:30:14,280 --> 01:30:18,800
Speaker 2: not there, and there are these long stretches of nothingness

1819
01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:21,840
Speaker 2: in terms of production. Two and a half quarters last

1820
01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:24,519
Speaker 2: night and against Cincinnati, you ain't winning that way. And

1821
01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:26,720
Speaker 2: that's the bottom line, and that's why they're frustrated, and

1822
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:28,920
Speaker 2: I totally understand it. We got to take a break

1823
01:30:28,920 --> 01:30:30,840
Speaker 2: because we're late. For the break here, more of your

1824
01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:32,640
Speaker 2: phone calls when we're back here on one Bill's Live,

1825
01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:55,559
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1826
01:30:55,640 --> 01:30:59,080
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1827
01:30:59,560 --> 01:31:01,479
Speaker 2: of the end fl right back to the phone as

1828
01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:04,200
Speaker 2: we go into Carl into Pew, What do you got

1829
01:31:04,200 --> 01:31:04,719
Speaker 2: for us? Carl?

1830
01:31:09,600 --> 01:31:15,240
Speaker 14: But I think, like everybody, be a little more consistent.

1831
01:31:15,360 --> 01:31:17,720
Speaker 14: This team knows how to score, this team knows how

1832
01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:22,400
Speaker 14: to win. He just got to get more consistent. And

1833
01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:27,800
Speaker 14: I think uh Ash personally, I think he's better in

1834
01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:33,640
Speaker 14: a hurry up offense. Uh to play better there and

1835
01:31:33,680 --> 01:31:35,800
Speaker 14: that kind of fast going. I mean that.

1836
01:31:37,720 --> 01:31:40,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Carl, I'm sorry you're breaking up, but I think

1837
01:31:40,120 --> 01:31:42,200
Speaker 2: I got the gist of your call. I apologize, but

1838
01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:44,720
Speaker 2: your phone's breaking up on us. But yeah, I mean,

1839
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:46,519
Speaker 2: you want to go to the hurry up with Josh.

1840
01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:48,720
Speaker 2: You think he plays his best in that format. You

1841
01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:50,600
Speaker 2: don't think this guy has falling. But you'd like to

1842
01:31:50,640 --> 01:31:53,000
Speaker 2: turn them to turn to that for an answer on offense,

1843
01:31:53,040 --> 01:31:54,040
Speaker 2: and I'll listen to that.

1844
01:31:54,439 --> 01:31:55,040
Speaker 4: I'll say this.

1845
01:31:56,040 --> 01:31:57,920
Speaker 2: Ken Kate said as much in the locker room last night.

1846
01:31:57,960 --> 01:32:00,360
Speaker 2: He thinks there's something there going fastly.

1847
01:32:00,400 --> 01:32:02,320
Speaker 4: I think there's something there. And I'll say this too.

1848
01:32:02,840 --> 01:32:06,320
Speaker 4: That's how that thing back in the nineties that people always,

1849
01:32:06,360 --> 01:32:09,519
Speaker 4: you know, remember so romantically, you know, the nineties k

1850
01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:14,880
Speaker 4: gun stuff. It was a hard sell to get Marv

1851
01:32:14,960 --> 01:32:19,680
Speaker 4: Levy and Teddy Mark Schibroda to do it. It was

1852
01:32:19,760 --> 01:32:23,680
Speaker 4: really difficult to talk them into do it. They finally did, uh,

1853
01:32:23,720 --> 01:32:26,080
Speaker 4: and they did it like and they unfurled it like

1854
01:32:26,120 --> 01:32:28,000
Speaker 4: in a playoff game at Cleveland. All that. It was

1855
01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:31,400
Speaker 4: really difficult to get the coaching staff to allow a

1856
01:32:31,439 --> 01:32:34,280
Speaker 4: team to go hurry up all the time because it's

1857
01:32:34,280 --> 01:32:37,599
Speaker 4: a big risk and you're sitting there asking a coaching

1858
01:32:37,640 --> 01:32:41,679
Speaker 4: staff like Sean McDermott and this group to allow them

1859
01:32:41,720 --> 01:32:45,200
Speaker 4: to roll those dice with a defense that's got half

1860
01:32:45,200 --> 01:32:48,040
Speaker 4: of its starters out of the lineup. Yeah, so it's

1861
01:32:48,080 --> 01:32:48,920
Speaker 4: a hard sell.

1862
01:32:49,040 --> 01:32:50,400
Speaker 2: I don't think you could do it the whole game.

1863
01:32:50,439 --> 01:32:52,160
Speaker 2: I think you have to pick your spots.

1864
01:32:52,640 --> 01:32:55,000
Speaker 4: Well, okay, yeah, maybe.

1865
01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:57,240
Speaker 2: Like get that first first down and then go jump.

1866
01:32:57,120 --> 01:32:59,200
Speaker 4: In the handpo Yeah maybe maybe.

1867
01:32:59,240 --> 01:33:03,320
Speaker 2: But you're right, why to wire like that's it is?

1868
01:33:03,600 --> 01:33:06,960
Speaker 4: It's well, it's supremely risky wherever you do it, because

1869
01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:08,040
Speaker 4: you you come off the field and.

1870
01:33:08,720 --> 01:33:09,479
Speaker 2: Doing it the whole game.

1871
01:33:09,840 --> 01:33:12,040
Speaker 4: No, I'm saying that's the risk, and that's why it's

1872
01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:14,800
Speaker 4: not That's why they're saying, I ain't doing it. We're

1873
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:18,040
Speaker 4: not going to do this the whole game because we

1874
01:33:18,160 --> 01:33:21,599
Speaker 4: got like six healthy guys. So by not doing it,

1875
01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:24,040
Speaker 4: you're still losing football game. You're still trying. Yes, you're

1876
01:33:24,040 --> 01:33:26,840
Speaker 4: trying to win left handed. And I say this too.

1877
01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:28,639
Speaker 4: It also goes on the other side of the ball,

1878
01:33:28,720 --> 01:33:32,600
Speaker 4: the offense. It goes against every tenant that NF that

1879
01:33:32,680 --> 01:33:36,280
Speaker 4: makes NFL coaches NFL coaches, it's the same in every

1880
01:33:36,600 --> 01:33:41,720
Speaker 4: pro sport. You want to fashion your scheme around what

1881
01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:45,919
Speaker 4: your players do best, and by not letting this offense

1882
01:33:46,040 --> 01:33:49,120
Speaker 4: that we've seen spread it out and go, you're asking

1883
01:33:49,160 --> 01:33:50,800
Speaker 4: them to say, Okay, you're you're trying to hem them

1884
01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:55,120
Speaker 4: in for the for the sake of playing complimentary football,

1885
01:33:55,120 --> 01:33:57,840
Speaker 4: because you got a defense that is, you know, struggling,

1886
01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:00,479
Speaker 4: not struggling because they did more than hold their own

1887
01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:02,200
Speaker 4: last night, but with some help from the offense.

1888
01:34:02,200 --> 01:34:05,519
Speaker 2: But I think the bigger picture here, Steve, is with

1889
01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:08,200
Speaker 2: the state of your defense right now, as injury riddled

1890
01:34:08,240 --> 01:34:11,040
Speaker 2: as they are, your offense has to carry the burden.

1891
01:34:11,160 --> 01:34:13,599
Speaker 2: But they're not capable of carrying the burden of scoring

1892
01:34:13,600 --> 01:34:16,280
Speaker 2: more points to give you more cushion unless they are

1893
01:34:16,320 --> 01:34:19,000
Speaker 2: going hurry up, because that's what they do best. So

1894
01:34:19,080 --> 01:34:22,000
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to bite the bullet and live and

1895
01:34:22,040 --> 01:34:24,879
Speaker 2: die that way. That's what you have to do going forward,

1896
01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:27,360
Speaker 2: because doing it the other way is not working right now.

1897
01:34:27,400 --> 01:34:29,720
Speaker 4: Well, here's the thing too. You get these game and

1898
01:34:29,800 --> 01:34:31,599
Speaker 4: this is why it's so hard to live with. And

1899
01:34:33,400 --> 01:34:35,720
Speaker 4: if this is indeed the way it is, the way

1900
01:34:36,720 --> 01:34:41,040
Speaker 4: you and I are talking, would you give yourself a

1901
01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:46,280
Speaker 4: chance in these games like the Giants game, the Giants game,

1902
01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:52,439
Speaker 4: the Jacksonville game, the Patriots game, the Buccaneers game, all

1903
01:34:52,479 --> 01:34:54,519
Speaker 4: these games you're in saying, Okay, we got a shot

1904
01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:56,400
Speaker 4: at all these you're winning half of them, you're losing

1905
01:34:56,439 --> 01:34:59,320
Speaker 4: half of them, you're in all of them all the

1906
01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:02,760
Speaker 4: way through. It's coming down to these one possession games

1907
01:35:02,760 --> 01:35:04,439
Speaker 4: no matter what. Some of them look better than others,

1908
01:35:04,479 --> 01:35:06,040
Speaker 4: but they all end up being a one possession game.

1909
01:35:06,040 --> 01:35:08,040
Speaker 4: Even last night, you don't fumble that ball, you got

1910
01:35:08,040 --> 01:35:10,479
Speaker 4: a chance to win. You're saying, Okay, we're gonna do

1911
01:35:10,560 --> 01:35:13,600
Speaker 4: that every time. Or we could go out there and

1912
01:35:13,640 --> 01:35:16,599
Speaker 4: all of a sudden at halftime we're down twenty four

1913
01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:20,320
Speaker 4: to three. Yeah, last night you were down twenty one

1914
01:35:20,360 --> 01:35:25,040
Speaker 4: to seven, So that's it not doing it. So maybe

1915
01:35:25,040 --> 01:35:28,960
Speaker 4: it's twenty one fourteen, or maybe you're up by two scores,

1916
01:35:29,080 --> 01:35:31,760
Speaker 4: or maybe you're even least now your defense can play right,

1917
01:35:32,240 --> 01:35:34,680
Speaker 4: made capable of playing knowing the defense in front is

1918
01:35:34,720 --> 01:35:39,599
Speaker 4: healthy enough. Maybe yeah, but that's but they know this formula.

1919
01:35:39,720 --> 01:35:41,479
Speaker 4: They know that they're going to be in a one

1920
01:35:41,520 --> 01:35:44,640
Speaker 4: score game at least with a depleted defense. If you

1921
01:35:44,680 --> 01:35:47,439
Speaker 4: ask your guys and then and like we saw last night,

1922
01:35:47,479 --> 01:35:49,400
Speaker 4: when the push comes to shove, okay, now turn it on.

1923
01:35:50,360 --> 01:35:52,840
Speaker 4: Now turn it on. Well, now you're still in the

1924
01:35:52,880 --> 01:35:58,560
Speaker 4: same spot, right, But if you go fast early.

1925
01:35:59,760 --> 01:35:59,920
Speaker 2: May.

1926
01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:02,719
Speaker 4: Maybe it becomes different. Maybe now you reverse it, maybe

1927
01:36:02,760 --> 01:36:04,519
Speaker 4: you go left hand in the second half to hold

1928
01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:06,840
Speaker 4: on to a win like we've seen them do as well.

1929
01:36:08,240 --> 01:36:11,200
Speaker 2: Break time for us here our number three will begin

1930
01:36:11,360 --> 01:36:14,120
Speaker 2: with Bill's reporter Matty Glabs. She joins us for our

1931
01:36:14,200 --> 01:36:16,240
Speaker 2: number three as we get a look at the AFC

1932
01:36:16,479 --> 01:36:19,519
Speaker 2: landscape in the wake of Buffalo's latest defeat to fall

1933
01:36:19,560 --> 01:36:21,720
Speaker 2: to five and four on the season. She's up next

1934
01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:23,880
Speaker 2: here on One Bill's Live. Stay tuned.

1935
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Speaker 1: The One Bill's Live presented by Calllida Health.

1936
01:37:20,479 --> 01:37:23,799
Speaker 2: Our number three here on a Buffalo Football Monday, Chris Brown,

1937
01:37:23,880 --> 01:37:26,720
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker, and our own Bills reporter Maddy lab here

1938
01:37:26,760 --> 01:37:29,560
Speaker 2: with us for our number three is we try to

1939
01:37:29,560 --> 01:37:33,559
Speaker 2: get a handle on the AFC landscape, Mattie, in the

1940
01:37:33,560 --> 01:37:36,439
Speaker 2: wake of Buffalo's latest loss, which hays drop them out

1941
01:37:37,040 --> 01:37:40,720
Speaker 2: of playoff position. Here at the mid season mark, and

1942
01:37:42,280 --> 01:37:46,760
Speaker 2: the entire AFC North is in a playoff position right now.

1943
01:37:46,760 --> 01:37:49,040
Speaker 2: That's pretty remarkable this late in the season.

1944
01:37:49,200 --> 01:37:49,720
Speaker 21: Yes, they are.

1945
01:37:49,800 --> 01:37:52,920
Speaker 11: The Bills sit at number nine, Jets are at eight,

1946
01:37:53,479 --> 01:37:58,639
Speaker 11: and then you go one through seven, Chiefs, Ravens, Jags, Dolphins, Steelers, Browns,

1947
01:37:58,760 --> 01:38:02,680
Speaker 11: and bangles there. So as we discuss this game and

1948
01:38:02,720 --> 01:38:05,240
Speaker 11: look forward to the rest of the season, Steve, I

1949
01:38:05,240 --> 01:38:08,360
Speaker 11: know we've talked about multiple times and even in the

1950
01:38:08,360 --> 01:38:11,479
Speaker 11: postgame show, is like looking ahead, can the Bills figure

1951
01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:14,599
Speaker 11: this out offensively? Can they get back to their high

1952
01:38:14,640 --> 01:38:17,559
Speaker 11: scoring ways that we saw in the beginning of the season.

1953
01:38:17,600 --> 01:38:19,680
Speaker 11: We've already seen it. Can they figure it out and

1954
01:38:19,720 --> 01:38:23,040
Speaker 11: do that consistently to end the season? And your point

1955
01:38:23,080 --> 01:38:25,920
Speaker 11: to that is, is every other team in the AFC

1956
01:38:26,200 --> 01:38:28,479
Speaker 11: also going to be winning out the end of the season,

1957
01:38:28,560 --> 01:38:31,280
Speaker 11: like there could be other teams that start to falter

1958
01:38:31,439 --> 01:38:33,080
Speaker 11: here as we get later in the season.

1959
01:38:33,160 --> 01:38:35,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I'm not depending. I don't think the Bills

1960
01:38:35,240 --> 01:38:37,400
Speaker 4: should sit here and depend on other teams collapsing so

1961
01:38:37,439 --> 01:38:39,400
Speaker 4: they can get in. I don't think that'll be necessary.

1962
01:38:39,400 --> 01:38:41,280
Speaker 4: But the Bills do have as tough as schedule coming

1963
01:38:41,320 --> 01:38:43,280
Speaker 4: down the stretch as anybody in the league. With Philly,

1964
01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:47,800
Speaker 4: with the Chiefs, with the Jets who are playing really

1965
01:38:47,840 --> 01:38:53,200
Speaker 4: tough football, the Chargers, the Cowboys, all this stuff going on,

1966
01:38:54,640 --> 01:38:56,639
Speaker 4: the Bills are going to have to play really, really well,

1967
01:38:56,680 --> 01:38:59,160
Speaker 4: and they're gonna have to play more consistently down the

1968
01:38:59,160 --> 01:39:03,120
Speaker 4: stretch to win these games, they're gonna have. You gotta

1969
01:39:03,160 --> 01:39:05,360
Speaker 4: get ten games. Ten games get you in.

1970
01:39:05,439 --> 01:39:09,160
Speaker 2: I think probably it's a jumble right now, though, I

1971
01:39:09,200 --> 01:39:11,160
Speaker 2: mean it's pretty tight. I mean it's still gunners in

1972
01:39:11,160 --> 01:39:12,559
Speaker 2: the conference all have two losses.

1973
01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:16,599
Speaker 4: It's still gonna wash to about ten wins to get in,

1974
01:39:17,280 --> 01:39:19,519
Speaker 4: and that's where you've got to get. That means you

1975
01:39:19,560 --> 01:39:21,479
Speaker 4: got to go five and three down the stretch, and

1976
01:39:21,520 --> 01:39:23,000
Speaker 4: that means you're gonna have to beat some pretty good

1977
01:39:23,000 --> 01:39:23,719
Speaker 4: football teams.

1978
01:39:23,760 --> 01:39:26,519
Speaker 11: And I think that's a positive here is it's not

1979
01:39:26,600 --> 01:39:29,840
Speaker 11: like any team in the AFC. You said, you know,

1980
01:39:29,960 --> 01:39:33,120
Speaker 11: the Chiefs and the Ravens and the Jags all have

1981
01:39:33,200 --> 01:39:37,400
Speaker 11: two losses one two, three in the AFC, And when

1982
01:39:37,400 --> 01:39:39,200
Speaker 11: you look at stats and when you look at what

1983
01:39:39,240 --> 01:39:43,320
Speaker 11: teams have been scoring, it's not like there's one AFC

1984
01:39:43,400 --> 01:39:47,240
Speaker 11: team that has just been dominating. Of course, the Chiefs

1985
01:39:47,280 --> 01:39:49,759
Speaker 11: and the Ravens have seven wins, and they have looked

1986
01:39:49,800 --> 01:39:52,880
Speaker 11: really good at points, but at points throughout their season

1987
01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:57,240
Speaker 11: as well, they've also looked a little bit confused. The

1988
01:39:57,320 --> 01:40:01,840
Speaker 11: Chiefs just lost to the Broncos a couple weeks ago there,

1989
01:40:02,040 --> 01:40:05,599
Speaker 11: so we're going to face the Broncos here on Monday

1990
01:40:05,640 --> 01:40:07,960
Speaker 11: Night Football. But when you start to look at stats

1991
01:40:07,960 --> 01:40:13,200
Speaker 11: and where the Bills rank, they're still high in several categories.

1992
01:40:13,400 --> 01:40:15,919
Speaker 11: But the teams that are number one in the NFL,

1993
01:40:16,280 --> 01:40:18,960
Speaker 11: the Bills aren't far off from those number one teams.

1994
01:40:19,400 --> 01:40:22,840
Speaker 11: And I know they've had some high offensive outputs early

1995
01:40:22,880 --> 01:40:25,160
Speaker 11: on in the season that you could say skew the

1996
01:40:25,200 --> 01:40:26,160
Speaker 11: stats differently.

1997
01:40:26,880 --> 01:40:29,480
Speaker 21: What I'm saying is that the Bills are.

1998
01:40:30,560 --> 01:40:33,559
Speaker 11: Capable of being right there with the best because we've

1999
01:40:33,600 --> 01:40:36,240
Speaker 11: seen it before. We know what this team is made of,

2000
01:40:36,560 --> 01:40:38,720
Speaker 11: we know what can happen, and we know some of

2001
01:40:38,720 --> 01:40:41,920
Speaker 11: these guys on the ir are getting healthy. We have

2002
01:40:41,960 --> 01:40:44,960
Speaker 11: a bye week coming up in week thirteen, and coming

2003
01:40:45,000 --> 01:40:47,200
Speaker 11: out of that bye week, we could be looking at

2004
01:40:47,200 --> 01:40:50,720
Speaker 11: a team that is getting several guys back, which is

2005
01:40:50,800 --> 01:40:54,599
Speaker 11: another good thing, which is another positive to rely on here.

2006
01:40:55,080 --> 01:40:58,519
Speaker 11: They've been missing some offensive pieces and Damien Harris and

2007
01:40:58,640 --> 01:41:01,439
Speaker 11: Dawson Knox. They could get those those guys back. Who

2008
01:41:01,479 --> 01:41:04,080
Speaker 11: knows what's gonna happen with Daikwon Jones and Matt Mulano.

2009
01:41:04,160 --> 01:41:06,840
Speaker 11: We really haven't gotten many updates there, but maybe those

2010
01:41:06,840 --> 01:41:08,880
Speaker 11: are guys that could get back in the fold. As

2011
01:41:08,960 --> 01:41:11,640
Speaker 11: this team is making a playoff push toward the end

2012
01:41:11,640 --> 01:41:12,599
Speaker 11: of the regular season.

2013
01:41:12,880 --> 01:41:13,879
Speaker 21: But when you look.

2014
01:41:13,720 --> 01:41:17,120
Speaker 11: At what's ahead for the Bills, I want to kind

2015
01:41:17,120 --> 01:41:19,640
Speaker 11: of compare that to what's ahead for the rest of

2016
01:41:19,680 --> 01:41:23,080
Speaker 11: the AFC. I'm looking kind of next five games ahead

2017
01:41:23,120 --> 01:41:26,839
Speaker 11: for these teams. So the Bills go Broncos, Jets, Eagles

2018
01:41:26,880 --> 01:41:28,360
Speaker 11: by Chiefs, Cowboys.

2019
01:41:29,240 --> 01:41:31,000
Speaker 21: I highlighted four games.

2020
01:41:31,000 --> 01:41:33,920
Speaker 11: Those are four tough games coming up for the Bills

2021
01:41:35,160 --> 01:41:36,919
Speaker 11: and the Jets, Eagles, Chiefs, Cowboys.

2022
01:41:36,920 --> 01:41:38,120
Speaker 21: Those are going to be tough games.

2023
01:41:38,479 --> 01:41:41,320
Speaker 11: I know the Jets have not been scoring a whole

2024
01:41:41,360 --> 01:41:43,519
Speaker 11: lot of points, but they've been able to hang on.

2025
01:41:43,640 --> 01:41:47,120
Speaker 11: And hey, they play on Monday Night tonight against the Chargers.

2026
01:41:47,840 --> 01:41:50,040
Speaker 11: If they lose that game, the Bills are right back

2027
01:41:50,040 --> 01:41:51,679
Speaker 11: in it. When you look at the AFC East.

2028
01:41:51,560 --> 01:41:53,720
Speaker 4: Right, and the thing about it is, as you look

2029
01:41:53,760 --> 01:41:57,960
Speaker 4: at it, that game tonight is really interesting for Bills

2030
01:41:58,000 --> 01:41:59,880
Speaker 4: fans because those are two teams that are left on

2031
01:41:59,880 --> 01:42:02,599
Speaker 4: the Bills schedule. You got to get a look at them. Certainly,

2032
01:42:02,600 --> 01:42:04,960
Speaker 4: the Chargers are not the team they thought they were

2033
01:42:05,000 --> 01:42:08,240
Speaker 4: gonna be. At three and four, I believe the Chargers,

2034
01:42:08,400 --> 01:42:10,880
Speaker 4: I'll double check out, but they're three and four and

2035
01:42:12,640 --> 01:42:16,200
Speaker 4: coming down the stretch, the Bills have got to you know,

2036
01:42:17,320 --> 01:42:19,080
Speaker 4: they were five and three walking into this one. If

2037
01:42:19,080 --> 01:42:20,759
Speaker 4: they can go five and three in the second half,

2038
01:42:21,120 --> 01:42:26,400
Speaker 4: that's it, They're in. But I'm saying this, I think

2039
01:42:27,040 --> 01:42:29,800
Speaker 4: the Bills need to no matter how they even if

2040
01:42:29,840 --> 01:42:31,679
Speaker 4: they do go one and two in the next three

2041
01:42:31,760 --> 01:42:34,400
Speaker 4: get into their bye week. This is a team that

2042
01:42:34,840 --> 01:42:37,320
Speaker 4: has got to play that last month of the season.

2043
01:42:37,360 --> 01:42:38,960
Speaker 4: You got to start getting to the point where you

2044
01:42:38,960 --> 01:42:41,360
Speaker 4: can play lights out offensively, you got to score points.

2045
01:42:41,400 --> 01:42:44,439
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna respectfully disagree with your ten win

2046
01:42:44,520 --> 01:42:47,400
Speaker 2: proclamation because if you're gonna get in on ten wins,

2047
01:42:47,880 --> 01:42:50,400
Speaker 2: they're gonna have to be the right wins because right now,

2048
01:42:50,439 --> 01:42:52,120
Speaker 2: you're two and four in the conference, you're one and

2049
01:42:52,160 --> 01:42:54,960
Speaker 2: two in the division. If those other five wins are

2050
01:42:54,960 --> 01:42:58,920
Speaker 2: not all AFC conference victories, you're looking at a twelve

2051
01:42:59,000 --> 01:43:03,600
Speaker 2: game conference right there, that's not above five hundred and

2052
01:43:03,640 --> 01:43:06,280
Speaker 2: you're not winning any tie breakers. And your best route

2053
01:43:06,320 --> 01:43:08,240
Speaker 2: right now, if you're the Bills to a playoff berth

2054
01:43:08,640 --> 01:43:10,720
Speaker 2: is by winning the division. Yeah, got the head to

2055
01:43:10,720 --> 01:43:13,639
Speaker 2: head edge on Miami from the game back in Week four.

2056
01:43:14,080 --> 01:43:16,400
Speaker 2: You're only a game behind them. You got to run

2057
01:43:16,439 --> 01:43:18,720
Speaker 2: the table in the division. You got to beat everybody

2058
01:43:18,800 --> 01:43:21,960
Speaker 2: the next time through Jets, Miami, New England, finish four

2059
01:43:21,960 --> 01:43:24,400
Speaker 2: and two in the division, you sweep the Dolphins by

2060
01:43:24,439 --> 01:43:27,719
Speaker 2: virtue of that scenario. And if you win enough games

2061
01:43:27,760 --> 01:43:30,320
Speaker 2: in addition to those division contests that you have left,

2062
01:43:30,640 --> 01:43:32,560
Speaker 2: maybe you have a look at the AFC's title and

2063
01:43:32,600 --> 01:43:35,840
Speaker 2: you're automatically in. I don't like the wildcard route right now,

2064
01:43:36,040 --> 01:43:38,439
Speaker 2: based on their conference record and who they still have

2065
01:43:38,479 --> 01:43:42,920
Speaker 2: to play in the AFC, which includes as we mentioned, Chiefs, Chargers, Jets,

2066
01:43:43,320 --> 01:43:46,160
Speaker 2: and then there's another one in there besides the Patriots

2067
01:43:46,160 --> 01:43:48,640
Speaker 2: and the Dolphins. I think Cowboys, Well that's NFC but

2068
01:43:48,800 --> 01:43:49,920
Speaker 2: home Yeah, I mean.

2069
01:43:50,200 --> 01:43:51,439
Speaker 4: Well it's a Dolphins, Patriots.

2070
01:43:51,439 --> 01:43:53,240
Speaker 2: It's a tough road to ho Yeah, it really is.

2071
01:43:53,280 --> 01:43:55,200
Speaker 4: But I'll say this too. You look over at the

2072
01:43:55,240 --> 01:43:56,640
Speaker 4: other teams that are trying to get in.

2073
01:43:56,680 --> 01:43:57,680
Speaker 2: Oh, Denver's the other game.

2074
01:43:57,800 --> 01:43:59,439
Speaker 4: Yeah. You look at the other teams that are trying

2075
01:43:59,439 --> 01:44:04,280
Speaker 4: to get in, and it's Pittsburgh, it's Cincinnati, it's Baltimore.

2076
01:44:05,600 --> 01:44:10,400
Speaker 4: Look at those teams in Cleveland. So that's in Vegas.

2077
01:44:10,479 --> 01:44:14,320
Speaker 4: I mean, they're in the hunt not really right, and

2078
01:44:14,439 --> 01:44:17,040
Speaker 4: neither Houston to me, except for their you know, four

2079
01:44:17,080 --> 01:44:21,840
Speaker 4: and five, Houston four and four, Houston four and five Indianapolis.

2080
01:44:22,880 --> 01:44:24,519
Speaker 4: There's gonna be one team out of the South.

2081
01:44:24,600 --> 01:44:26,479
Speaker 11: So let's start with the Jets, who are at number eight,

2082
01:44:26,479 --> 01:44:29,040
Speaker 11: and let's work our way up to see the Bills,

2083
01:44:29,040 --> 01:44:31,559
Speaker 11: because they're gonna need to leap frogs some teams here

2084
01:44:31,600 --> 01:44:34,200
Speaker 11: to start moving up in the conference standings.

2085
01:44:34,680 --> 01:44:35,880
Speaker 21: The Jets are above them.

2086
01:44:36,240 --> 01:44:41,120
Speaker 11: Here are the jets next five games, Chargers, Raiders, Bills, Falcons.

2087
01:44:41,680 --> 01:44:44,320
Speaker 11: Those are their next five and then they'll see the Texans.

2088
01:44:44,640 --> 01:44:47,680
Speaker 11: So out of those five, you've got a couple tough ones.

2089
01:44:47,479 --> 01:44:48,759
Speaker 21: In the Bills and the Dolphins.

2090
01:44:48,760 --> 01:44:51,280
Speaker 11: I don't know if you're calling Chargers, Raiders or Falcons

2091
01:44:51,360 --> 01:44:52,519
Speaker 11: tough games for the Jets.

2092
01:44:52,520 --> 01:44:55,160
Speaker 2: Texans are a plucky team now they're four and four.

2093
01:44:55,240 --> 01:44:57,080
Speaker 2: They're a half game behind the Bills, right.

2094
01:44:57,280 --> 01:44:59,120
Speaker 11: And then if you go to the Bengals, who are

2095
01:44:59,120 --> 01:45:02,160
Speaker 11: sitting at number seve, they seem to figure things out

2096
01:45:02,200 --> 01:45:04,680
Speaker 11: in the last few games here as they're riding a

2097
01:45:04,720 --> 01:45:07,600
Speaker 11: four game win streak. So the Bengals next five they

2098
01:45:07,680 --> 01:45:10,120
Speaker 11: go Texans, Ravens, Steelers.

2099
01:45:09,840 --> 01:45:10,839
Speaker 21: Jaguars, Colts.

2100
01:45:11,000 --> 01:45:14,000
Speaker 11: They have three tough games in the row against the Ravens,

2101
01:45:14,160 --> 01:45:17,120
Speaker 11: Steelers and the Jaguars. There those will be meaningful games.

2102
01:45:17,120 --> 01:45:19,479
Speaker 11: I think we're going to start to see a picture

2103
01:45:19,560 --> 01:45:22,320
Speaker 11: take shape, at least for the Bengals in those three games.

2104
01:45:22,320 --> 01:45:23,400
Speaker 21: And you're against those guys.

2105
01:45:23,479 --> 01:45:26,720
Speaker 2: You're also hoping that those AFC North teams who will

2106
01:45:26,720 --> 01:45:28,920
Speaker 2: be facing each other over the next few weeks or

2107
01:45:29,000 --> 01:45:32,800
Speaker 2: month plus, we'll start knocking each other off and by

2108
01:45:32,880 --> 01:45:35,120
Speaker 2: virtue of that, hopefully one or two of those teams

2109
01:45:35,120 --> 01:45:35,640
Speaker 2: falls out of.

2110
01:45:35,640 --> 01:45:39,840
Speaker 4: The place Cincinnati. Cincinnati has to play four division games still,

2111
01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:43,000
Speaker 4: that's going to be two against two, one against Baltimore,

2112
01:45:43,400 --> 01:45:48,320
Speaker 4: one against Cleveland, and then two against the Steelers. Those

2113
01:45:48,360 --> 01:45:51,519
Speaker 4: are those are tough games. They're tough games. Same thing

2114
01:45:51,600 --> 01:45:55,640
Speaker 4: for the other AFC North Division teams. So yeah, and

2115
01:45:55,720 --> 01:45:57,439
Speaker 4: I get it too that it's a tough spot to

2116
01:45:57,479 --> 01:46:01,280
Speaker 4: be in for Bills fans because you know, notwithstanding this

2117
01:46:01,360 --> 01:46:07,080
Speaker 4: game tonight, Uh, the Bills are now they one and

2118
01:46:07,760 --> 01:46:10,439
Speaker 4: one and three in the Division, one and two in

2119
01:46:10,479 --> 01:46:15,600
Speaker 4: the Division. Three division games left. It's a long road.

2120
01:46:16,720 --> 01:46:19,000
Speaker 4: It's a long road. They gotta they've got to sweep

2121
01:46:20,800 --> 01:46:22,200
Speaker 4: we gotta sweep the rest of their division.

2122
01:46:22,600 --> 01:46:24,439
Speaker 2: That's what I was saying, And that's your best look

2123
01:46:24,439 --> 01:46:26,959
Speaker 2: at getting to the playoffs winning this division, because.

2124
01:46:27,960 --> 01:46:29,680
Speaker 4: And that's not out of the realm of possibility. I mean,

2125
01:46:29,680 --> 01:46:31,919
Speaker 4: they're still going to be playing Tua and the Dolphins,

2126
01:46:31,960 --> 01:46:34,920
Speaker 4: who have yet to beat a team above five hundred

2127
01:46:35,320 --> 01:46:37,800
Speaker 4: on the season, even though their offense is spectacular and

2128
01:46:37,840 --> 01:46:42,080
Speaker 4: they're doing some good stuff. The Jets always seem to

2129
01:46:42,080 --> 01:46:44,800
Speaker 4: be a problem for Buffalo and of course the Patriots,

2130
01:46:44,880 --> 01:46:49,480
Speaker 4: although the Patriots game will be here on New Year's

2131
01:46:49,760 --> 01:46:52,960
Speaker 4: so you kind of like that. But you still got

2132
01:46:53,000 --> 01:46:53,639
Speaker 4: a wayte to go.

2133
01:46:53,600 --> 01:46:55,240
Speaker 2: All right, So you got Cleveland next, Maddie.

2134
01:46:55,240 --> 01:46:57,799
Speaker 21: In terms of their upcoming Cleveland next.

2135
01:46:57,960 --> 01:47:00,040
Speaker 11: And you're looking at a lot of these as the

2136
01:47:00,240 --> 01:47:03,559
Speaker 11: North teams are are facing heavy in division opponents here

2137
01:47:03,600 --> 01:47:06,080
Speaker 11: in the next five weeks. I would say the Browns

2138
01:47:06,080 --> 01:47:10,360
Speaker 11: at their next five Ravens, Steelers, Broncos, Chargers Jaguars, So

2139
01:47:10,400 --> 01:47:13,400
Speaker 11: they've got three tough games out of the next five Ravens.

2140
01:47:13,439 --> 01:47:16,240
Speaker 4: Charge it's Rams Jaguars, not Chargers Jaguars.

2141
01:47:15,880 --> 01:47:21,760
Speaker 11: Oh, Rams Jaguars. So Ravens for Steelers Jags. Yes, those

2142
01:47:21,800 --> 01:47:23,519
Speaker 11: are gonna be some tough opponents. And then you look

2143
01:47:23,520 --> 01:47:25,920
Speaker 11: at who the Jags have in the next five games.

2144
01:47:26,280 --> 01:47:28,680
Speaker 11: They face the forty nine Ers next week, then they

2145
01:47:28,680 --> 01:47:32,719
Speaker 11: go Titans, Texans, Bengals, Ravens. So all of these teams

2146
01:47:32,800 --> 01:47:36,160
Speaker 11: are facing tougher opponents. Really in the AFC North, I

2147
01:47:36,160 --> 01:47:39,200
Speaker 11: would say they're facing a tougher schedule here in the

2148
01:47:39,240 --> 01:47:46,160
Speaker 11: next five weeks. Ravens go Browns, Bengals, Chargers, by Rams, Jags.

2149
01:47:47,000 --> 01:47:50,760
Speaker 11: So you look at what these teams have ahead on

2150
01:47:50,800 --> 01:47:54,000
Speaker 11: their schedule, and I wouldn't say any of these teams

2151
01:47:54,080 --> 01:47:56,840
Speaker 11: have as tough a schedule as the Buffalo Bills do

2152
01:47:56,960 --> 01:47:59,800
Speaker 11: in the next five weeks because I counted, you know,

2153
01:47:59,840 --> 01:48:01,839
Speaker 11: tougher opponents that these teams are facing.

2154
01:48:01,880 --> 01:48:04,320
Speaker 21: The Bills have four in the.

2155
01:48:04,280 --> 01:48:06,559
Speaker 11: Next five opponents they see. I would say a lot

2156
01:48:06,560 --> 01:48:09,360
Speaker 11: of these teams have two or three tough opponents in

2157
01:48:09,400 --> 01:48:11,840
Speaker 11: the next five games that they're about to play. With

2158
01:48:11,880 --> 01:48:14,519
Speaker 11: all that said, though you don't know what's gonna happen

2159
01:48:14,720 --> 01:48:17,559
Speaker 11: for any of these teams that we're pointing out here

2160
01:48:18,200 --> 01:48:21,080
Speaker 11: that are in the playoff picture right now, there's some

2161
01:48:21,200 --> 01:48:24,120
Speaker 11: tough opponents that all of these teams are going to

2162
01:48:24,240 --> 01:48:27,439
Speaker 11: have to see and a lot could change over the

2163
01:48:27,520 --> 01:48:30,880
Speaker 11: next few weeks too. A lot changed this week in

2164
01:48:30,920 --> 01:48:34,200
Speaker 11: the AFC, the Bills now sitting at number nine. You

2165
01:48:34,240 --> 01:48:37,920
Speaker 11: look at the division opponents and who the Dolphins and

2166
01:48:38,000 --> 01:48:41,840
Speaker 11: the Jets have to play, and the Patriots, well, the

2167
01:48:41,880 --> 01:48:47,160
Speaker 11: Patriots go Colts, bye week, Giants, Chargers, Steelers, Chiefs, and

2168
01:48:47,200 --> 01:48:52,160
Speaker 11: then the Dolphins. Next five they go by Raiders, Jets, Commanders, Titans,

2169
01:48:52,439 --> 01:48:58,400
Speaker 11: Jets again, so the command So the Dolphins two games

2170
01:48:58,439 --> 01:49:00,960
Speaker 11: against the Jets, that's what you're looking at. They don't

2171
01:49:01,000 --> 01:49:03,920
Speaker 11: have as tough of a next five as the Bills do.

2172
01:49:04,439 --> 01:49:07,519
Speaker 11: They will see the Jets twice. Those are two important

2173
01:49:07,600 --> 01:49:08,919
Speaker 11: games for the Dolphins.

2174
01:49:09,000 --> 01:49:11,960
Speaker 2: Their last three are really tough, though. Cowboys Ravens, Bills.

2175
01:49:12,240 --> 01:49:15,200
Speaker 2: I mean those the last three for Miami. That's that's

2176
01:49:15,200 --> 01:49:19,640
Speaker 2: a Jets Cowboys, Ravens, Bills have fun with those defenses.

2177
01:49:20,040 --> 01:49:22,760
Speaker 2: I mean, my god, that I mean. Looking on the

2178
01:49:22,880 --> 01:49:27,160
Speaker 2: league stats, let's do this, Jets, Cowboys, Ravens, Bills. So

2179
01:49:27,280 --> 01:49:33,280
Speaker 2: defenses Jets overall fourteenth six in points allowed. Then we've

2180
01:49:33,320 --> 01:49:37,080
Speaker 2: got Ravens, right. Ravens are number two defense, number one

2181
01:49:37,120 --> 01:49:41,000
Speaker 2: in points allowed, Cowboys number three defense, number seven in

2182
01:49:41,040 --> 01:49:43,880
Speaker 2: points allowed, and the Bills are seventeenth overall but still

2183
01:49:43,920 --> 01:49:48,480
Speaker 2: fifth in points allowed, so they have four top seven

2184
01:49:48,560 --> 01:49:51,960
Speaker 2: defenses in points allowed to end their season, and they

2185
01:49:51,960 --> 01:49:54,800
Speaker 2: haven't beaten anybody with a winning record since last year

2186
01:49:54,840 --> 01:49:56,760
Speaker 2: and Week three which was oh, by the way, the

2187
01:49:56,760 --> 01:49:58,880
Speaker 2: Bills twenty three to twenty one and one hundred and

2188
01:49:58,920 --> 01:50:03,479
Speaker 2: eighty degree weather and the Bills had four hundred yards passing. Yeah,

2189
01:50:03,600 --> 01:50:05,920
Speaker 2: the only team we didn't cover were the Steelers, who

2190
01:50:05,960 --> 01:50:08,280
Speaker 2: I see here. We didn't run down the Steelers schedule.

2191
01:50:08,320 --> 01:50:10,400
Speaker 2: I don't think Steelers.

2192
01:50:09,840 --> 01:50:13,120
Speaker 11: Have Packers, Browns, Bengals, Cardinals, and.

2193
01:50:13,080 --> 01:50:17,280
Speaker 2: Patriots relatively friendly, with the two AFC North games probably

2194
01:50:17,320 --> 01:50:20,040
Speaker 2: the really tough ones, although the Patriots always play them tough,

2195
01:50:21,240 --> 01:50:23,679
Speaker 2: but the Packers aren't also ran this year. The Cardinals

2196
01:50:23,720 --> 01:50:25,920
Speaker 2: are not going anywhere, although Kyler Murray figures to be

2197
01:50:25,920 --> 01:50:28,480
Speaker 2: back in the lineup by the time they will play them,

2198
01:50:28,560 --> 01:50:31,120
Speaker 2: so that could change. The conferences are good. I mean,

2199
01:50:31,920 --> 01:50:33,000
Speaker 2: Browns are a good defense.

2200
01:50:33,240 --> 01:50:35,479
Speaker 4: They're a good defense, and they're starting to get to

2201
01:50:35,479 --> 01:50:41,880
Speaker 4: find their way offensively now that Shaun Watson is playing

2202
01:50:41,920 --> 01:50:44,439
Speaker 4: a little bit better. They've won three out of their

2203
01:50:44,479 --> 01:50:46,679
Speaker 4: last four, even though they haven't looked all that great

2204
01:50:46,720 --> 01:50:47,080
Speaker 4: doing it.

2205
01:50:48,439 --> 01:50:50,519
Speaker 2: Cleveland has a winning record in the conference too, They're

2206
01:50:50,560 --> 01:50:53,599
Speaker 2: three and two. It's five and two in the conference.

2207
01:50:53,720 --> 01:50:56,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, Cleveland's five and three and they've had their buy already.

2208
01:50:57,439 --> 01:50:59,160
Speaker 4: But you know, like I said, this is the big

2209
01:50:59,200 --> 01:50:59,680
Speaker 4: thing for them.

2210
01:50:59,720 --> 01:50:59,920
Speaker 22: Now.

2211
01:51:00,240 --> 01:51:05,200
Speaker 4: They got Baltimore, Pittsburgh and then Denver and La Rams

2212
01:51:05,320 --> 01:51:06,960
Speaker 4: but Jacksonville at the end of this, so they got three

2213
01:51:06,960 --> 01:51:10,120
Speaker 4: hour five games that are really against pretty good opponents.

2214
01:51:10,160 --> 01:51:13,000
Speaker 2: I just think the disappointing thing for Bills fans is

2215
01:51:13,000 --> 01:51:15,760
Speaker 2: they did not think for a second that with the

2216
01:51:15,800 --> 01:51:18,000
Speaker 2: team that they had, that they would be playing this

2217
01:51:18,120 --> 01:51:21,639
Speaker 2: game at mid season, where I had an old coach

2218
01:51:21,720 --> 01:51:24,240
Speaker 2: used to call this paper shooting, where you say, ah, well,

2219
01:51:24,280 --> 01:51:26,200
Speaker 2: you know we beat that team, and that team beat

2220
01:51:26,240 --> 01:51:28,080
Speaker 2: that team, so we should beat them easily, and blah

2221
01:51:28,160 --> 01:51:29,880
Speaker 2: blah blah. And if we have this team lose and

2222
01:51:29,960 --> 01:51:31,880
Speaker 2: that team lose and this team's got a tough schedule,

2223
01:51:31,960 --> 01:51:33,920
Speaker 2: we got it made in the shade. They didn't want

2224
01:51:33,920 --> 01:51:36,080
Speaker 2: to be playing that game. And usually at this time

2225
01:51:36,120 --> 01:51:38,840
Speaker 2: of year, the Bills aren't playing that game because they've

2226
01:51:38,920 --> 01:51:41,960
Speaker 2: got some cushion between themselves and the rest of the

2227
01:51:41,960 --> 01:51:42,639
Speaker 2: rest of the pack.

2228
01:51:42,760 --> 01:51:45,639
Speaker 4: I'll say this, if the Bills get through this next

2229
01:51:45,640 --> 01:51:49,800
Speaker 4: stretch of five games, say starting with Denver, the next

2230
01:51:49,800 --> 01:51:52,439
Speaker 4: five games, their opponents have a combined record of twenty

2231
01:51:52,479 --> 01:51:56,960
Speaker 4: seven and fourteen. It's a tough stretch starting with this

2232
01:51:57,080 --> 01:51:59,000
Speaker 4: Denver team is the only team that doesn't have a

2233
01:51:59,000 --> 01:51:59,960
Speaker 4: winning record coming.

2234
01:51:59,840 --> 01:52:01,120
Speaker 2: Up, and they've won two in a row and they're

2235
01:52:01,120 --> 01:52:01,720
Speaker 2: coming off a bike.

2236
01:52:01,800 --> 01:52:03,479
Speaker 4: They're three and five and they're coming off their By

2237
01:52:03,560 --> 01:52:05,960
Speaker 4: then they play the four and three Jets, the eight

2238
01:52:06,000 --> 01:52:09,320
Speaker 4: and one Philly Eagles, the seven and two Chiefs, and

2239
01:52:09,360 --> 01:52:12,320
Speaker 4: the five and three Cowboys. They've got a stretch coming

2240
01:52:12,400 --> 01:52:17,599
Speaker 4: up against winning teams. Now, if the Bills do somehow

2241
01:52:17,680 --> 01:52:20,880
Speaker 4: cobble together a way to make the playoffs, I know

2242
01:52:20,920 --> 01:52:22,519
Speaker 4: a lot of people don't want to hear that today,

2243
01:52:22,760 --> 01:52:24,920
Speaker 4: Like they're they're chucking, they want to fire everybody. Okay,

2244
01:52:25,680 --> 01:52:27,519
Speaker 4: if they get through, nobody's going to go to the

2245
01:52:27,520 --> 01:52:30,960
Speaker 4: playoffs having to run the gauntlet like the Bills. They're

2246
01:52:30,960 --> 01:52:33,360
Speaker 4: going to be in against some really tough people all

2247
01:52:33,400 --> 01:52:35,160
Speaker 4: the way through from beginning to end of this season.

2248
01:52:36,080 --> 01:52:38,080
Speaker 4: So if they can find a way to get in,

2249
01:52:38,160 --> 01:52:40,080
Speaker 4: nobody's going to be ready for it more than they are.

2250
01:52:41,400 --> 01:52:43,439
Speaker 2: But even if you go three and two during that stretch,

2251
01:52:43,479 --> 01:52:47,360
Speaker 2: you're eight and six, I have to you really got

2252
01:52:47,400 --> 01:52:49,679
Speaker 2: to sprint to the finish. Now at eight and six, well.

2253
01:52:49,560 --> 01:52:51,320
Speaker 21: You have to win those important games.

2254
01:52:51,360 --> 01:52:53,759
Speaker 11: Like you said, if you're looking at the playoff picture

2255
01:52:54,240 --> 01:52:56,880
Speaker 11: and you're looking at okay, how can you get in.

2256
01:52:56,840 --> 01:52:59,400
Speaker 4: If you're eight and if we can, it's the division first.

2257
01:52:59,520 --> 01:53:02,719
Speaker 4: If the Bills go eight and six and they's five

2258
01:53:02,760 --> 01:53:05,599
Speaker 4: and they got Cowboys, the Chargers, the Patriots, the Dolphins,

2259
01:53:05,720 --> 01:53:08,720
Speaker 4: and they got to win two, maybe three, maybe three,

2260
01:53:08,880 --> 01:53:10,400
Speaker 4: two at least, I'll take that.

2261
01:53:10,520 --> 01:53:12,040
Speaker 2: I think you gotta get to eleven.

2262
01:53:11,760 --> 01:53:14,280
Speaker 4: Going into the Patriots into a Dolphins game with must wins.

2263
01:53:14,320 --> 01:53:16,360
Speaker 2: Let's go okay, let's.

2264
01:53:16,160 --> 01:53:19,400
Speaker 4: Go on a day like today. I'll take that. Yeah, right,

2265
01:53:19,840 --> 01:53:21,960
Speaker 4: because I think.

2266
01:53:21,840 --> 01:53:25,280
Speaker 2: The point to be pulled from this is the margin

2267
01:53:25,360 --> 01:53:28,400
Speaker 2: for error at the at the mid season point is

2268
01:53:28,439 --> 01:53:31,320
Speaker 2: as thin as it's been in probably years, four years,

2269
01:53:31,560 --> 01:53:34,760
Speaker 2: since twenty nineteen. Yeah, it's the thinnest the margin has been.

2270
01:53:34,920 --> 01:53:36,160
Speaker 2: It's margin for error.

2271
01:53:36,240 --> 01:53:37,120
Speaker 4: It's uncomfortable.

2272
01:53:37,400 --> 01:53:40,040
Speaker 11: But this team likes they're back against the wall sometimes.

2273
01:53:40,200 --> 01:53:42,640
Speaker 11: This team likes to be looked at as underdogs, and

2274
01:53:43,000 --> 01:53:46,360
Speaker 11: maybe that's just what they need, is to have this

2275
01:53:46,439 --> 01:53:49,960
Speaker 11: tough stretch ahead of them where they can really show

2276
01:53:50,000 --> 01:53:52,599
Speaker 11: people who they are and show people what we've seen

2277
01:53:52,640 --> 01:53:54,880
Speaker 11: in the beginning of the season from this team. They're

2278
01:53:54,880 --> 01:53:57,880
Speaker 11: playing a Broncos team that, yes, they just allowed nine

2279
01:53:57,920 --> 01:53:59,200
Speaker 11: points to the Chiefs.

2280
01:53:59,200 --> 01:54:00,479
Speaker 21: They had to buy we this week.

2281
01:54:00,560 --> 01:54:04,200
Speaker 11: There they've won the last two in a row, but defensively,

2282
01:54:04,680 --> 01:54:06,640
Speaker 11: they rank at the bottom of the league in a

2283
01:54:06,680 --> 01:54:09,320
Speaker 11: lot of categories, and you could say maybe they've figured

2284
01:54:09,320 --> 01:54:11,639
Speaker 11: things out defensively and they're going to be a different

2285
01:54:11,640 --> 01:54:15,000
Speaker 11: team defensively, but we'll see what the Bills can throw

2286
01:54:15,040 --> 01:54:15,240
Speaker 11: at that.

2287
01:54:15,360 --> 01:54:17,960
Speaker 4: Thinking about Sean Payton and the Denver Broncos is this

2288
01:54:18,080 --> 01:54:21,040
Speaker 4: Sean Payton has always been a coach that has been

2289
01:54:22,680 --> 01:54:25,840
Speaker 4: let's go for it. He has never been a guy that,

2290
01:54:26,120 --> 01:54:29,200
Speaker 4: like some people talk about during being conservative and running

2291
01:54:29,240 --> 01:54:32,080
Speaker 4: the football and about Sean Payton is a let's go

2292
01:54:32,240 --> 01:54:35,480
Speaker 4: for it all the time mentality. He coaches that way

2293
01:54:35,520 --> 01:54:37,600
Speaker 4: and he as an offensive coach. It's easy to see

2294
01:54:37,680 --> 01:54:39,440
Speaker 4: because he wears it on his sleeve a little bit too.

2295
01:54:39,440 --> 01:54:41,160
Speaker 4: This is the guy that was a surprise on side

2296
01:54:41,280 --> 01:54:43,880
Speaker 4: kick guy in the super Bowl, you gotta go for

2297
01:54:43,920 --> 01:54:44,800
Speaker 4: it and I and.

2298
01:54:44,840 --> 01:54:47,040
Speaker 2: Also the forty seven to ten guy here against New.

2299
01:54:47,040 --> 01:54:49,880
Speaker 4: Orkance, that's right, that's right. It's all gas, no breaks

2300
01:54:49,920 --> 01:54:54,520
Speaker 4: for him. They're gonna come out and go for it

2301
01:54:54,840 --> 01:54:58,120
Speaker 4: all the time. That's a handful for anybody, even if

2302
01:54:58,160 --> 01:55:00,240
Speaker 4: they're undermanned and don't have all the guys had love

2303
01:55:00,280 --> 01:55:03,400
Speaker 4: to have. They're going for it and players respond to

2304
01:55:03,440 --> 01:55:07,760
Speaker 4: that in a positive way. So this Denver team with

2305
01:55:08,240 --> 01:55:11,880
Speaker 4: Sean Payton is you know, it's one of those things

2306
01:55:11,880 --> 01:55:14,920
Speaker 4: where you know what you're gonna get and it's not

2307
01:55:15,000 --> 01:55:18,440
Speaker 4: gonna be complimentary football. It's gonna be We're gonna go

2308
01:55:18,480 --> 01:55:20,800
Speaker 4: forward on our side of the ball, and we're gonna

2309
01:55:20,840 --> 01:55:23,120
Speaker 4: go forward on your side of the ball too. You know,

2310
01:55:23,560 --> 01:55:26,720
Speaker 4: when you've got it, Uh, let's go. They came out

2311
01:55:26,720 --> 01:55:31,200
Speaker 4: of their bye week and beat the Chiefs. That's that's

2312
01:55:31,200 --> 01:55:34,600
Speaker 4: a confidence boost for that crew. And they're if they weren't,

2313
01:55:35,160 --> 01:55:38,280
Speaker 4: they are now all bought in to what Sean Payton's selling.

2314
01:55:38,680 --> 01:55:41,200
Speaker 4: So they're gonna be tough. And that's the only team

2315
01:55:41,320 --> 01:55:44,520
Speaker 4: left over the next five games that has a losing

2316
01:55:44,560 --> 01:55:46,840
Speaker 4: record at this point that the Bills are gonna face.

2317
01:55:46,960 --> 01:55:49,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I would say the scariest team in the

2318
01:55:49,000 --> 01:55:52,280
Speaker 2: AFC right now is probably the Baltimore Ravens. Yes, they

2319
01:55:52,360 --> 01:55:56,040
Speaker 2: lead the conference in net point differential at plus one

2320
01:55:56,040 --> 01:56:00,200
Speaker 2: point fifteen, so they're ahead of the Bills now or

2321
01:56:00,200 --> 01:56:00,720
Speaker 2: a plus eight.

2322
01:56:00,920 --> 01:56:03,880
Speaker 4: I'll say this, I think the Bengals are more scary

2323
01:56:03,880 --> 01:56:08,160
Speaker 4: than the Baltimore Ravens. That might be true because because

2324
01:56:08,160 --> 01:56:11,040
Speaker 4: of the way the Bengals started the season, it was horrific.

2325
01:56:11,880 --> 01:56:13,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and now.

2326
01:56:13,840 --> 01:56:14,640
Speaker 4: They're at the top of them.

2327
01:56:14,720 --> 01:56:17,080
Speaker 2: And for some reason, the Bills match up better against

2328
01:56:17,080 --> 01:56:20,840
Speaker 2: the Ravens. For whatever reason that is historically over the

2329
01:56:20,920 --> 01:56:24,280
Speaker 2: last few years, they seem to match up better with

2330
01:56:24,360 --> 01:56:28,360
Speaker 2: the Ravens and have better answers for them than they

2331
01:56:28,400 --> 01:56:31,840
Speaker 2: do against the Bengals, which seemingly for some reason, a

2332
01:56:31,880 --> 01:56:34,920
Speaker 2: lot of stuff doesn't work that works against the Ravens.

2333
01:56:34,960 --> 01:56:37,320
Speaker 21: So Bengals have a tough stretch coming up, though.

2334
01:56:37,440 --> 01:56:40,840
Speaker 11: That'll like, that's you think you figured it out, all right,

2335
01:56:40,920 --> 01:56:43,720
Speaker 11: You've got three tough opponents coming up, so let's see

2336
01:56:43,720 --> 01:56:46,360
Speaker 11: what happens here. They're writing a four game win streak,

2337
01:56:46,880 --> 01:56:50,640
Speaker 11: sitting at number seven right now in the AFC standings.

2338
01:56:50,880 --> 01:56:54,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, they that primetime game against Baltimore in Week eleven.

2339
01:56:54,960 --> 01:56:57,360
Speaker 2: That's a big in and it's on the road in Baltimore,

2340
01:56:57,720 --> 01:56:59,600
Speaker 2: and those two teams don't like each other. That thing's

2341
01:56:59,600 --> 01:57:00,200
Speaker 2: always a war.

2342
01:57:00,400 --> 01:57:02,600
Speaker 4: So yeah, but they've got They've got the Texans coming

2343
01:57:02,600 --> 01:57:06,080
Speaker 4: in this week, right, They've got Steelers coming in C. J.

2344
01:57:06,200 --> 01:57:08,440
Speaker 2: Stroud coming off a four hundred and seventy yard passive

2345
01:57:08,480 --> 01:57:10,000
Speaker 2: performance with five touchdowns.

2346
01:57:10,160 --> 01:57:11,879
Speaker 4: I think that's a team with a little more confidence.

2347
01:57:12,000 --> 01:57:14,320
Speaker 2: I think. So they're four and four, Yeah, they're four

2348
01:57:14,360 --> 01:57:16,720
Speaker 2: and four. That's a that's a big measuring stick game

2349
01:57:16,720 --> 01:57:17,320
Speaker 2: for the Texas.

2350
01:57:17,440 --> 01:57:19,760
Speaker 4: I think it is too. I think they'll probably know that,

2351
01:57:20,400 --> 01:57:22,000
Speaker 4: But I don't know that that makes them a better

2352
01:57:22,040 --> 01:57:23,120
Speaker 4: football No it.

2353
01:57:23,120 --> 01:57:25,360
Speaker 2: Might not, you know, not ready for prime time kind

2354
01:57:25,360 --> 01:57:28,840
Speaker 2: of thing. That's possible. But well, well, look at can

2355
01:57:28,920 --> 01:57:31,360
Speaker 2: give them all they can handle. I get help us out, please.

2356
01:57:31,480 --> 01:57:34,160
Speaker 2: But I mean they're I mean, that's where we are.

2357
01:57:34,840 --> 01:57:36,360
Speaker 4: They've played in the last three of the last four

2358
01:57:36,360 --> 01:57:39,280
Speaker 4: games is with the Falcons, the Panthers, and the Buccaneers.

2359
01:57:39,440 --> 01:57:41,680
Speaker 2: So well, Houston's playing a last place schedule.

2360
01:57:41,760 --> 01:57:46,200
Speaker 4: That's yes, they are, and they're going they're like the Bills.

2361
01:57:46,200 --> 01:57:47,520
Speaker 4: Their win loss, win loss.

2362
01:57:47,960 --> 01:57:49,920
Speaker 11: Yeah, and out of this next stretch, you got to

2363
01:57:50,000 --> 01:57:51,960
Speaker 11: hope that the Bills can get a couple wins here,

2364
01:57:52,400 --> 01:57:54,240
Speaker 11: and then you hope that they can turn on the

2365
01:57:54,280 --> 01:57:57,480
Speaker 11: gas coming out of the bye week and really really

2366
01:57:57,800 --> 01:58:01,240
Speaker 11: course correct as you head into the post season. That's

2367
01:58:01,280 --> 01:58:02,520
Speaker 11: what has to happen here.

2368
01:58:02,640 --> 01:58:04,480
Speaker 4: That's been the hope here. I think the tenant of

2369
01:58:04,480 --> 01:58:06,800
Speaker 4: this day. This is an uncomfortable Monday for every old

2370
01:58:06,840 --> 01:58:08,880
Speaker 4: Bills fans and everybody because it's been like, oh my gosh,

2371
01:58:08,920 --> 01:58:11,560
Speaker 4: it was a good game. It was a hard fought game.

2372
01:58:11,600 --> 01:58:13,280
Speaker 4: It was a one possession game. At the end of it.

2373
01:58:13,320 --> 01:58:15,720
Speaker 4: They turned it over twice, which probably made it that way.

2374
01:58:15,800 --> 01:58:17,320
Speaker 4: It probably would have been a one or two point

2375
01:58:17,360 --> 01:58:21,080
Speaker 4: game had it not been for the turnovers, with a

2376
01:58:21,160 --> 01:58:23,360
Speaker 4: chance to win it on either side of the ball.

2377
01:58:23,400 --> 01:58:26,280
Speaker 4: However the possessions went. But you come down you think, okay,

2378
01:58:27,720 --> 01:58:30,200
Speaker 4: that's where you're at right now. You're thinking this team

2379
01:58:30,280 --> 01:58:32,920
Speaker 4: is gonna do like they did in their best opportunity year,

2380
01:58:32,920 --> 01:58:35,320
Speaker 4: that twenty twenty one year when they were seven and

2381
01:58:35,480 --> 01:58:38,960
Speaker 4: six and then won their last four and hit the

2382
01:58:38,960 --> 01:58:41,040
Speaker 4: playoffs at a dead sprint, and it looked like they

2383
01:58:41,040 --> 01:58:43,800
Speaker 4: were gonna go to the distance. It looked like they

2384
01:58:43,840 --> 01:58:45,640
Speaker 4: were gonna go to the super Bowl except for the

2385
01:58:45,680 --> 01:58:49,760
Speaker 4: thirteen seconds, right, that was their best chance. And so

2386
01:58:49,840 --> 01:58:52,080
Speaker 4: you hope that and your hope is that they can

2387
01:58:52,120 --> 01:58:55,640
Speaker 4: recapture that, muddle through this up until that last month

2388
01:58:55,680 --> 01:58:58,600
Speaker 4: of the season, then sprint to the finish and hit

2389
01:58:58,640 --> 01:59:00,640
Speaker 4: the playoffs in a dead run life they did that year.

2390
01:59:00,680 --> 01:59:01,160
Speaker 4: We'll see.

2391
01:59:01,240 --> 01:59:01,880
Speaker 21: Hope you're healthy.

2392
01:59:02,040 --> 01:59:03,840
Speaker 4: That's kind of the message today though. Yeah, you got

2393
01:59:03,920 --> 01:59:07,280
Speaker 4: and you gotta get help. We cantink you're gonna get healthier,

2394
01:59:07,640 --> 01:59:10,240
Speaker 4: not less healthy. Right, if they get less healthy, it's like.

2395
01:59:11,160 --> 01:59:13,680
Speaker 11: And we'll hear from Sean McDermott this afternoon, but they

2396
01:59:13,760 --> 01:59:16,800
Speaker 11: lost a few players, more defensive players in this game,

2397
01:59:16,840 --> 01:59:19,520
Speaker 11: and we're not sure the status of those guys. We'll

2398
01:59:19,560 --> 01:59:22,000
Speaker 11: hear that coming up in a few hours, but I mean,

2399
01:59:22,320 --> 01:59:25,080
Speaker 11: knock on wood that these guys are going to be available.

2400
01:59:25,400 --> 01:59:29,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you had Terrell Bernard presumably now in concussion

2401
01:59:29,720 --> 01:59:32,160
Speaker 2: protocol after being examined for a head injury and not

2402
01:59:32,240 --> 01:59:35,400
Speaker 2: returning to the game. Christian benfor tweaks his hamstring missus

2403
01:59:35,400 --> 01:59:37,400
Speaker 2: the last quarter and a half of the game. Coach

2404
01:59:37,440 --> 01:59:40,160
Speaker 2: McDermott said, Dane Jackson got ding two, but there was

2405
01:59:40,200 --> 01:59:43,680
Speaker 2: no specificity as to what injury he could be dealing with.

2406
01:59:43,880 --> 01:59:45,560
Speaker 2: And we saw Michael Hyde go out of the game

2407
01:59:45,600 --> 01:59:51,320
Speaker 2: with a stinger. So right there, that's four starters on defense.

2408
01:59:51,680 --> 01:59:53,920
Speaker 2: So you add those in with the three that are

2409
01:59:53,960 --> 01:59:58,440
Speaker 2: already out indefinitely. I mean, you'd like to think one,

2410
01:59:58,760 --> 02:00:00,640
Speaker 2: maybe two of them can be back for this coming

2411
02:00:00,680 --> 02:00:02,560
Speaker 2: week's game. You do have the benefit of an extra

2412
02:00:02,640 --> 02:00:05,960
Speaker 2: day with the game being on Monday night, But if

2413
02:00:05,960 --> 02:00:08,320
Speaker 2: all all four of them aren't available, now you're down

2414
02:00:08,400 --> 02:00:10,760
Speaker 2: seven starters from your starting eleven at the beginning of

2415
02:00:10,760 --> 02:00:13,920
Speaker 2: the year. Wow, you can't even call Dean Jackson a

2416
02:00:14,000 --> 02:00:15,560
Speaker 2: starter because he wasn't starting at the beginning.

2417
02:00:15,560 --> 02:00:17,920
Speaker 4: It's right, he wasn't supposed to be starting at the beginning.

2418
02:00:17,640 --> 02:00:17,960
Speaker 5: Of the year.

2419
02:00:18,080 --> 02:00:20,360
Speaker 2: Now he is, and then he might not be, we

2420
02:00:20,400 --> 02:00:23,520
Speaker 2: don't know. So yeah, it's a mass unit on the

2421
02:00:23,560 --> 02:00:24,960
Speaker 2: defensive side of the ball for sure.

2422
02:00:25,000 --> 02:00:25,240
Speaker 4: Maddi.

2423
02:00:25,280 --> 02:00:26,960
Speaker 2: Thanks for coming in and giving us a look at

2424
02:00:26,960 --> 02:00:31,200
Speaker 2: the AFC playoff picture, knowing how people are biting their

2425
02:00:31,200 --> 02:00:33,480
Speaker 2: fingernails already with a five and four record at the

2426
02:00:33,480 --> 02:00:36,240
Speaker 2: turn here, we appreciate it. We will take a break,

2427
02:00:36,280 --> 02:00:38,120
Speaker 2: but back to your phone calls when we return. Here

2428
02:00:38,160 --> 02:00:39,840
Speaker 2: On One Bill's Live, presented by a Lot of Health,

2429
02:00:39,880 --> 02:01:04,240
Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right back, You're on a

2430
02:01:04,280 --> 02:01:06,720
Speaker 2: Buffalo Football Monday on One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve

2431
02:01:06,800 --> 02:01:09,000
Speaker 2: Tasker with you. Gonna run right back to the phones. Here,

2432
02:01:09,040 --> 02:01:11,640
Speaker 2: gotta Ron in North Carolina waiting patiently. What do you

2433
02:01:11,640 --> 02:01:12,320
Speaker 2: got for us? Ron?

2434
02:01:14,080 --> 02:01:17,160
Speaker 5: Guys, I'm a season and this guy's not falling in

2435
02:01:17,200 --> 02:01:20,080
Speaker 5: my opinion. The one thing that I would like to say, though,

2436
02:01:20,120 --> 02:01:22,880
Speaker 5: is I wish that I don't know if there's the

2437
02:01:23,280 --> 02:01:26,520
Speaker 5: vermit tempering it or what. We make a good play,

2438
02:01:26,600 --> 02:01:29,680
Speaker 5: the guys go crazy. They're celebrating, they're dancing on the sideline.

2439
02:01:29,760 --> 02:01:32,040
Speaker 5: We make a bad play and it's like a freaking

2440
02:01:32,160 --> 02:01:36,440
Speaker 5: funeral on the sideline. There's no emotion. There's nobody over

2441
02:01:36,480 --> 02:01:40,040
Speaker 5: there picking Josh up. Cromer's not chewing the lineman every

2442
02:01:40,080 --> 02:01:41,800
Speaker 5: now and then. These guys need a good chewing. I

2443
02:01:41,840 --> 02:01:43,840
Speaker 5: want to see Dorsey throwing papers. I want to see

2444
02:01:43,840 --> 02:01:47,240
Speaker 5: Dorsey breaking tablets. I want to see some emotion. I'm

2445
02:01:47,240 --> 02:01:49,040
Speaker 5: gonna hang up and let you guys talk.

2446
02:01:48,960 --> 02:01:52,360
Speaker 2: Okay, yep, thanks for the call, Ron, Yeah, I mean

2447
02:01:52,360 --> 02:01:54,720
Speaker 2: there have been instances this season where there hasn't been

2448
02:01:54,760 --> 02:01:56,600
Speaker 2: a lot of mojo on the sidelines. I get it.

2449
02:01:56,680 --> 02:02:00,000
Speaker 2: I remember distinctly watching the first half of Bill's Patriot,

2450
02:02:00,280 --> 02:02:03,080
Speaker 2: and the sideline didn't have a lot of juice to

2451
02:02:03,160 --> 02:02:05,160
Speaker 2: it in the first half of that game, and you

2452
02:02:05,240 --> 02:02:08,200
Speaker 2: got Stefan Diggs trying to pick everybody up. That guy's

2453
02:02:08,240 --> 02:02:10,400
Speaker 2: the one that does it the most routinely, and it

2454
02:02:10,480 --> 02:02:13,240
Speaker 2: crosses sides to the ball, offense, defense, special teams. He's

2455
02:02:13,240 --> 02:02:17,040
Speaker 2: out there trying to pump everybody up. And yeah, I

2456
02:02:17,400 --> 02:02:20,160
Speaker 2: have noticed that. You know, Shakira runs over a defender

2457
02:02:20,200 --> 02:02:22,800
Speaker 2: in the Tampa game along the Bill's sideline, everybody's jumping.

2458
02:02:24,760 --> 02:02:26,760
Speaker 2: I think they do try their best to pick up

2459
02:02:27,520 --> 02:02:30,080
Speaker 2: guys when things aren't going right. I think the leadership

2460
02:02:30,120 --> 02:02:32,800
Speaker 2: on this team is strong. The captains know how to lead.

2461
02:02:33,680 --> 02:02:37,680
Speaker 2: So you got to remember, Ron, you're you're restricted to

2462
02:02:37,720 --> 02:02:40,920
Speaker 2: what the television cameras are showing you too, So just

2463
02:02:40,960 --> 02:02:44,520
Speaker 2: try to be mindful of that as well in describing

2464
02:02:44,640 --> 02:02:47,400
Speaker 2: the emotion that you do or do not see on

2465
02:02:47,520 --> 02:02:48,120
Speaker 2: game days.

2466
02:02:48,440 --> 02:02:51,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's a it's a big statement. I get

2467
02:02:51,960 --> 02:02:55,160
Speaker 4: it too, and it's important. You're right, you gotta you

2468
02:02:55,240 --> 02:02:58,000
Speaker 4: want to see the not just the celebration of the

2469
02:02:58,000 --> 02:03:00,560
Speaker 4: good plays, but also the fire when things don't go well,

2470
02:03:00,640 --> 02:03:05,600
Speaker 4: or at least accountability, right, I get that, But I

2471
02:03:05,640 --> 02:03:07,400
Speaker 4: don't know that that's been an issue in the past.

2472
02:03:07,400 --> 02:03:09,200
Speaker 4: I don't know that it is now. And certainly, every

2473
02:03:09,560 --> 02:03:12,000
Speaker 4: year and every addition of every team is different year

2474
02:03:12,040 --> 02:03:13,800
Speaker 4: to year. Even though you have the same leaders like

2475
02:03:13,920 --> 02:03:17,400
Speaker 4: Josh and Diggs, you know, Gabe Davis. You got these

2476
02:03:17,400 --> 02:03:20,640
Speaker 4: same leaders, Mitch Morse, you got these guys, these pillars

2477
02:03:20,680 --> 02:03:25,520
Speaker 4: of the team that are the same. But as the

2478
02:03:25,920 --> 02:03:29,440
Speaker 4: as the season rolls on and every year comes the

2479
02:03:29,480 --> 02:03:32,360
Speaker 4: guys around those guys react differently, think differently, and you

2480
02:03:32,440 --> 02:03:35,320
Speaker 4: got other guys contributing in different ways. So every team

2481
02:03:35,360 --> 02:03:37,560
Speaker 4: and every addition, ever, every team is different. So it's

2482
02:03:37,600 --> 02:03:39,200
Speaker 4: just because it has worked in a certain way in

2483
02:03:39,240 --> 02:03:41,960
Speaker 4: the past doesn't mean that's that's the recipe for this

2484
02:03:42,080 --> 02:03:46,680
Speaker 4: year and that they've got that recipe. Certainly, it's a

2485
02:03:46,760 --> 02:03:49,600
Speaker 4: it's a consideration for the coaching staff when they assimilate

2486
02:03:50,480 --> 02:03:55,040
Speaker 4: the roster, but it's certainly not first and foremost. I mean,

2487
02:03:55,080 --> 02:03:58,680
Speaker 4: if you've got a guy that's on all pro but

2488
02:03:58,800 --> 02:04:00,880
Speaker 4: you want to rather have a guy that's you wish

2489
02:04:00,960 --> 02:04:03,240
Speaker 4: somebody was a little fire. You're not gonna fire that

2490
02:04:03,280 --> 02:04:05,640
Speaker 4: guy to hire a guy who's fiery, who can't play

2491
02:04:05,760 --> 02:04:09,920
Speaker 4: that kind of thing. So you take what you can get,

2492
02:04:09,920 --> 02:04:12,880
Speaker 4: and you ask your leaders to address the team and

2493
02:04:13,280 --> 02:04:15,720
Speaker 4: lead the team in a way, even if it is

2494
02:04:15,760 --> 02:04:18,240
Speaker 4: different than they've done in the past. Remember when they

2495
02:04:18,280 --> 02:04:21,800
Speaker 4: made Steph Diggs a team captain. He took it extremely

2496
02:04:21,840 --> 02:04:24,760
Speaker 4: seriously and changed the way he led on the sidelines

2497
02:04:25,080 --> 02:04:26,880
Speaker 4: and in the locker room and all that, and he

2498
02:04:26,920 --> 02:04:29,920
Speaker 4: took great pride and he's been good at it. He's

2499
02:04:29,920 --> 02:04:33,560
Speaker 4: been good at it. But that's kind of the consideration.

2500
02:04:33,640 --> 02:04:36,800
Speaker 4: I respect what you said Ron about you know, you

2501
02:04:37,280 --> 02:04:39,800
Speaker 4: like to see something and maybe that is a symptom

2502
02:04:40,320 --> 02:04:43,880
Speaker 4: rather than a cause. You know what I'm saying. Maybe

2503
02:04:43,680 --> 02:04:47,640
Speaker 4: the sideline emotion is a symptom of a different problem

2504
02:04:47,720 --> 02:04:50,839
Speaker 4: rather than the cause of ineffectiveness on offense or defense.

2505
02:04:51,320 --> 02:04:54,080
Speaker 4: I don't know, but that's kind of what you're talking about,

2506
02:04:54,080 --> 02:04:57,480
Speaker 4: and I respect the observation. What else can you do?

2507
02:04:58,280 --> 02:05:00,640
Speaker 2: Let's go to j in RK next. What do you

2508
02:05:00,640 --> 02:05:01,280
Speaker 2: got Jay.

2509
02:05:02,760 --> 02:05:04,920
Speaker 23: Hi I'm a first time color.

2510
02:05:05,160 --> 02:05:07,160
Speaker 2: Thanks for doing it, long time listener.

2511
02:05:07,360 --> 02:05:10,800
Speaker 23: And thank you for the information you spread on the bills.

2512
02:05:11,120 --> 02:05:11,440
Speaker 7: Sure.

2513
02:05:11,520 --> 02:05:16,200
Speaker 23: My biggest My biggest complaint after yesterday was the sum

2514
02:05:16,280 --> 02:05:22,080
Speaker 23: of the officiating. I don't understand and maybe Steve you

2515
02:05:22,120 --> 02:05:25,800
Speaker 23: can help me out how the officials could not see

2516
02:05:25,840 --> 02:05:32,080
Speaker 23: that ken Kaid was tripped on that one call by

2517
02:05:32,120 --> 02:05:35,080
Speaker 23: one of the I think it was a defensive back. Yeah,

2518
02:05:35,080 --> 02:05:38,600
Speaker 23: you know, almost like need to knee and that that

2519
02:05:38,720 --> 02:05:41,240
Speaker 23: seems like an injury just waiting to happen if they

2520
02:05:41,360 --> 02:05:44,000
Speaker 23: don't call those things.

2521
02:05:44,120 --> 02:05:47,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, And actually, it's it's interesting that you mentioned that, Jay,

2522
02:05:47,280 --> 02:05:53,640
Speaker 2: because this past offseason they increased the penalty for tripping

2523
02:05:53,680 --> 02:05:56,040
Speaker 2: from a ten to a fifteen yard penalty. It is

2524
02:05:56,040 --> 02:05:58,840
Speaker 2: now a fifteen yard penalty this year in the league

2525
02:05:58,840 --> 02:06:01,880
Speaker 2: for the first time. And I said it on the

2526
02:06:01,920 --> 02:06:04,640
Speaker 2: broadcast as soon as I saw it. It's a trip

2527
02:06:05,200 --> 02:06:09,640
Speaker 2: and it almost broke Dalton kin Kaid's ankle. Sliding in

2528
02:06:09,680 --> 02:06:13,400
Speaker 2: that way, to me is just as dangerous as the

2529
02:06:13,480 --> 02:06:16,400
Speaker 2: dragdown tackle. By dropping your hip on a leg of

2530
02:06:16,440 --> 02:06:20,040
Speaker 2: a quarterback in the pocket, It's just as dangerous. And

2531
02:06:20,080 --> 02:06:22,879
Speaker 2: the only thing I can think of is the refs

2532
02:06:22,880 --> 02:06:27,360
Speaker 2: have never seen, or rarely see a tripping play in

2533
02:06:27,400 --> 02:06:31,120
Speaker 2: which a defensive player uses the upper part of their leg,

2534
02:06:31,240 --> 02:06:34,640
Speaker 2: namely their thigh, instead of their lower leg, because usually

2535
02:06:34,640 --> 02:06:38,320
Speaker 2: you're reaching to trip a player that's out of your grasp,

2536
02:06:38,720 --> 02:06:41,040
Speaker 2: and so a player will throw a leg kind of

2537
02:06:41,040 --> 02:06:44,000
Speaker 2: like Trey Hendrickson did again last night in trying to

2538
02:06:44,000 --> 02:06:46,200
Speaker 2: trip Josh while he was trying to escape the pocket.

2539
02:06:46,240 --> 02:06:49,560
Speaker 2: He didn't make contact, thankfully, but we remember last year

2540
02:06:49,600 --> 02:06:52,360
Speaker 2: when he did it as well and injured Josh's foot

2541
02:06:52,360 --> 02:06:55,760
Speaker 2: on the play. But you can't slide tackle a player

2542
02:06:56,600 --> 02:07:00,000
Speaker 2: like that because Cameron Taylor Britt did not use any

2543
02:07:00,120 --> 02:07:03,840
Speaker 2: part of his arms to make the tackle. His hand

2544
02:07:03,920 --> 02:07:06,760
Speaker 2: is at his at his stomach and his other hands

2545
02:07:06,760 --> 02:07:08,720
Speaker 2: on the ground. He's literally got his hand on the

2546
02:07:08,720 --> 02:07:10,840
Speaker 2: ground like he's sliding into second base.

2547
02:07:10,920 --> 02:07:14,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, he slid feet it's a fifteen yard penalty. It's

2548
02:07:14,440 --> 02:07:17,520
Speaker 4: a it's a yeah, it's a he slid feet free

2549
02:07:17,640 --> 02:07:21,200
Speaker 4: first and uh yeah it's a huge miss. I don't

2550
02:07:21,240 --> 02:07:24,800
Speaker 4: think that that that's not going to go unnoticed. Uh,

2551
02:07:24,840 --> 02:07:27,080
Speaker 4: they'll get they'll be a little late. Now, well it

2552
02:07:27,080 --> 02:07:30,320
Speaker 4: would have been really late if Dalton Kink comes up lame. Uh,

2553
02:07:30,360 --> 02:07:33,600
Speaker 4: but it was I've never it's a soccer tackle.

2554
02:07:33,720 --> 02:07:34,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a slide tackle.

2555
02:07:34,840 --> 02:07:39,080
Speaker 4: It's a slight tackle. I mean it wasn't even Yeah,

2556
02:07:39,280 --> 02:07:41,320
Speaker 4: and I see Taylor Britt, I mean I get it.

2557
02:07:41,360 --> 02:07:45,040
Speaker 4: I mean I've seen it happen. And where you come

2558
02:07:45,080 --> 02:07:48,480
Speaker 4: in and two hundred and thirty eight or two hundred

2559
02:07:48,480 --> 02:07:51,160
Speaker 4: and forty five pound dalton Kin kid turns up the

2560
02:07:51,160 --> 02:07:53,280
Speaker 4: field with his shoulder down and that dB wants no

2561
02:07:53,360 --> 02:07:56,840
Speaker 4: part of it. And he bailed and slid and tried

2562
02:07:56,880 --> 02:07:59,360
Speaker 4: and just you know, cut his feet out from under him.

2563
02:07:59,400 --> 02:08:04,040
Speaker 4: It's illegal. And you're right, Jay from Arcade. It should

2564
02:08:04,080 --> 02:08:06,080
Speaker 4: have been a penalty. They brought it up on the

2565
02:08:06,080 --> 02:08:07,920
Speaker 4: They brought up on the broadcast.

2566
02:08:07,520 --> 02:08:08,720
Speaker 2: And we did too on the ring.

2567
02:08:10,280 --> 02:08:15,440
Speaker 4: Penalty. It was a miss. Luckily Kincaid shook it off

2568
02:08:15,440 --> 02:08:19,600
Speaker 4: and so did the dB, so did Britt. But you know, yeah,

2569
02:08:19,720 --> 02:08:22,120
Speaker 4: came out of the game briefly. They got they they

2570
02:08:22,120 --> 02:08:26,600
Speaker 4: got away with it. But in normal circumstances, if if

2571
02:08:26,640 --> 02:08:29,440
Speaker 4: Taylor Britt doesn't shy away from the contact and come

2572
02:08:29,440 --> 02:08:33,240
Speaker 4: in their hard, you know, it's I'm not saying he

2573
02:08:33,280 --> 02:08:35,960
Speaker 4: did the right thing, as he didn't but man, oh man,

2574
02:08:36,280 --> 02:08:38,680
Speaker 4: you know that's a big ask having a dB. I

2575
02:08:38,720 --> 02:08:41,640
Speaker 4: know Bill's take. Fans take it for granted that their

2576
02:08:41,680 --> 02:08:46,880
Speaker 4: DB's their corners like Benford, Dame Jackson, who's a little guy,

2577
02:08:47,080 --> 02:08:49,800
Speaker 4: Taron Johnson. They don't shy away from stuff like that.

2578
02:08:50,120 --> 02:08:52,400
Speaker 4: In that case, Taylor Britt did and it should have

2579
02:08:52,400 --> 02:08:53,240
Speaker 4: been a fifteen yard Penn.

2580
02:08:53,320 --> 02:08:56,640
Speaker 2: That's a six to three corner doing that. Whatever, let's

2581
02:08:56,680 --> 02:08:58,720
Speaker 2: go to Liz in Buffalo next. What do you have

2582
02:08:58,800 --> 02:08:59,320
Speaker 2: for us? Liz?

2583
02:09:00,400 --> 02:09:03,320
Speaker 24: I'm good afternoon, gentlemen, and thank you for taking my call.

2584
02:09:04,080 --> 02:09:06,960
Speaker 24: I'm not going to criticize the team, but I'm going

2585
02:09:07,040 --> 02:09:12,520
Speaker 24: to offer a new Mantras's something my dad always taught me.

2586
02:09:13,200 --> 02:09:18,480
Speaker 24: Proper preparation prevents poor performance, and I'll say, go bells.

2587
02:09:18,760 --> 02:09:21,400
Speaker 2: All right, fair enough, Liz, thank you very much for

2588
02:09:21,440 --> 02:09:24,920
Speaker 2: the call. Appreciate that I don't debate for a second

2589
02:09:24,960 --> 02:09:29,040
Speaker 2: that this team doesn't prepare to its utmost ability. Sometimes

2590
02:09:29,080 --> 02:09:32,040
Speaker 2: even the best laid plans don't work because guess what,

2591
02:09:32,200 --> 02:09:35,120
Speaker 2: the opponent's doing the very same thing, and they're trying

2592
02:09:35,160 --> 02:09:36,640
Speaker 2: to figure out the best answers for you.

2593
02:09:36,800 --> 02:09:37,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's tough.

2594
02:09:37,400 --> 02:09:39,000
Speaker 2: Sometimes their answers are better than yours.

2595
02:09:39,080 --> 02:09:41,640
Speaker 4: It's tough to win. It always has been. That's why

2596
02:09:41,680 --> 02:09:44,040
Speaker 4: it's so compelling to be a part of this league.

2597
02:09:44,040 --> 02:09:46,000
Speaker 4: You want to watch these guys play against each other

2598
02:09:46,040 --> 02:09:48,040
Speaker 4: because it's a hard league to win in, but you

2599
02:09:48,080 --> 02:09:50,400
Speaker 4: want to see your team play with some consistency. I

2600
02:09:50,440 --> 02:09:53,560
Speaker 4: think the frustrating thing for Bills fans today is they

2601
02:09:53,880 --> 02:09:58,600
Speaker 4: I think most of us have higher expectations for them

2602
02:09:59,000 --> 02:10:01,480
Speaker 4: than what they showed. What they've shown over the last month.

2603
02:10:01,520 --> 02:10:04,720
Speaker 4: Maybe certainly they've won half the games over the last

2604
02:10:04,720 --> 02:10:06,920
Speaker 4: six weeks, and they they have lost half the games,

2605
02:10:07,360 --> 02:10:12,400
Speaker 4: but they've all looked like they were playing, like I

2606
02:10:12,440 --> 02:10:15,480
Speaker 4: say it again, like they were playing left handed. And

2607
02:10:15,760 --> 02:10:17,800
Speaker 4: that's the frustrating part. You think, if they put the

2608
02:10:17,960 --> 02:10:19,880
Speaker 4: if they put if you're in a different sport, they

2609
02:10:19,880 --> 02:10:22,320
Speaker 4: put the racket in the right hand, all of a sudden,

2610
02:10:22,360 --> 02:10:25,080
Speaker 4: their forehand smash is unbeatable, and they never seem to

2611
02:10:25,120 --> 02:10:27,880
Speaker 4: do that yet, you know. So that's the frustrating part

2612
02:10:28,440 --> 02:10:30,440
Speaker 4: of this season for the Bills, And at the stretch

2613
02:10:30,440 --> 02:10:34,080
Speaker 4: they're in now now, at any point, you know, you

2614
02:10:34,120 --> 02:10:36,160
Speaker 4: feel like they could switch that racket to the other

2615
02:10:36,160 --> 02:10:39,120
Speaker 4: hand and they could start doing it but what's that

2616
02:10:39,200 --> 02:10:40,920
Speaker 4: take and why have they not done it?

2617
02:10:40,960 --> 02:10:43,760
Speaker 2: That's the question, and that is a question that I

2618
02:10:43,760 --> 02:10:45,800
Speaker 2: believe Carson and Orchard Park has. What do you got

2619
02:10:45,840 --> 02:10:46,040
Speaker 2: for us?

2620
02:10:46,080 --> 02:10:49,240
Speaker 22: Carson, Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. I got

2621
02:10:49,240 --> 02:10:52,720
Speaker 22: two quick questions and one you know, coming out we

2622
02:10:52,760 --> 02:10:56,160
Speaker 22: have the punt team just before half, like Cincinnati defers

2623
02:10:56,240 --> 02:10:59,600
Speaker 22: not to take a time out. If I'm McDermott, I think,

2624
02:11:00,040 --> 02:11:01,920
Speaker 22: why not give your quarterback a chance there with one

2625
02:11:01,960 --> 02:11:04,640
Speaker 22: second left? With a hail Mary you mean low probability play,

2626
02:11:04,680 --> 02:11:07,720
Speaker 22: but still and then Steve you probably know that's just

2627
02:11:07,760 --> 02:11:09,760
Speaker 22: as well as I do a little bit like as

2628
02:11:09,760 --> 02:11:12,520
Speaker 22: a quarterback myself when we're going up tempo and not

2629
02:11:12,640 --> 02:11:16,320
Speaker 22: so much no huddle, but it pretty much is when

2630
02:11:16,400 --> 02:11:18,640
Speaker 22: Josh gets into a rhythm like he did, like why

2631
02:11:18,640 --> 02:11:20,520
Speaker 22: did we take him out of that? In the second quarter?

2632
02:11:20,560 --> 02:11:22,120
Speaker 22: We got we got back to it obviously a little

2633
02:11:22,160 --> 02:11:24,360
Speaker 22: bit late, and it works. But for me when I'm

2634
02:11:24,360 --> 02:11:26,080
Speaker 22: in the rhythm, like let's just keep going here, And

2635
02:11:26,120 --> 02:11:29,680
Speaker 22: I thought, Dorsey, I don't know, I thought he misplayed.

2636
02:11:29,280 --> 02:11:29,720
Speaker 6: It a little bit.

2637
02:11:29,720 --> 02:11:31,120
Speaker 22: I would I would have probably stayed uptime.

2638
02:11:31,160 --> 02:11:32,920
Speaker 13: Bok.

2639
02:11:33,080 --> 02:11:35,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think so too. I think most people

2640
02:11:35,800 --> 02:11:38,000
Speaker 4: are in that camp today where you'd like to see

2641
02:11:38,000 --> 02:11:43,480
Speaker 4: more because it seems successful when they do it. Yeah,

2642
02:11:43,520 --> 02:11:45,160
Speaker 4: and I think at some point you got to trust

2643
02:11:45,160 --> 02:11:47,240
Speaker 4: your guys to pull it off and execute it and

2644
02:11:47,240 --> 02:11:50,680
Speaker 4: stay on the field trust And that's the that's you know,

2645
02:11:50,720 --> 02:11:53,480
Speaker 4: that's obviously the downside of going no huddle. They got

2646
02:11:53,480 --> 02:11:55,040
Speaker 4: to make first downs, You got to stay on the

2647
02:11:55,080 --> 02:11:57,560
Speaker 4: field a little bit and and take some time off

2648
02:11:57,560 --> 02:12:01,040
Speaker 4: the clock because it puts too much stress on a defense,

2649
02:12:01,120 --> 02:12:03,720
Speaker 4: like we've been talking about Scott six guys that aren't

2650
02:12:03,720 --> 02:12:06,640
Speaker 4: there from opening day, so that I think they're trying

2651
02:12:06,680 --> 02:12:08,640
Speaker 4: to protect those guys a little bit and maybe at

2652
02:12:08,640 --> 02:12:13,920
Speaker 4: the expense of offensive firepower or offensive choices, you know,

2653
02:12:14,080 --> 02:12:14,920
Speaker 4: options to go to.

2654
02:12:15,080 --> 02:12:18,600
Speaker 2: Now that being said, his first point is well taken,

2655
02:12:18,640 --> 02:12:20,280
Speaker 2: and we touched on this a little bit already on

2656
02:12:20,320 --> 02:12:23,400
Speaker 2: the show. You get called for intentional grounding, loss of

2657
02:12:23,480 --> 02:12:26,840
Speaker 2: down ten yards, you're backed up ten second, runoff, there's

2658
02:12:26,880 --> 02:12:30,280
Speaker 2: fourteen seconds left. The clock wasn't stopped. It's gonna start

2659
02:12:30,280 --> 02:12:34,080
Speaker 2: on the whistle line, Josh up. Have him run the

2660
02:12:34,080 --> 02:12:36,720
Speaker 2: play clock down, the game clock down to four seconds,

2661
02:12:36,840 --> 02:12:38,480
Speaker 2: drop back and chuck one to the end. Zone on

2662
02:12:38,480 --> 02:12:41,360
Speaker 2: a hail mary. I mean, the biggest risk is it's

2663
02:12:41,360 --> 02:12:43,400
Speaker 2: intercepted in the end zone and the half is over.

2664
02:12:43,600 --> 02:12:45,560
Speaker 2: You're not putting your defense back out on the field.

2665
02:12:45,760 --> 02:12:48,040
Speaker 2: And not only that, you're getting the opening kickoff to

2666
02:12:48,040 --> 02:12:50,400
Speaker 2: start the second half. There is an argument for that

2667
02:12:50,640 --> 02:12:52,280
Speaker 2: to just chuck it to the end zone last play

2668
02:12:52,280 --> 02:12:52,680
Speaker 2: of the half.

2669
02:12:52,840 --> 02:12:59,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree. That seems to me like situational football

2670
02:12:59,200 --> 02:13:02,320
Speaker 4: they missed out on now and also too, and we've

2671
02:13:02,360 --> 02:13:08,840
Speaker 4: gone around this. Nobody has more defensive experience with the

2672
02:13:08,880 --> 02:13:12,240
Speaker 4: hail mary than the Buffalo Bills. All over the last

2673
02:13:12,240 --> 02:13:14,440
Speaker 4: four or five years. They've been in more one score

2674
02:13:14,520 --> 02:13:16,680
Speaker 4: games that have come down to one last play than

2675
02:13:16,720 --> 02:13:20,560
Speaker 4: anybody in the league, and so they know what that's like,

2676
02:13:20,640 --> 02:13:22,080
Speaker 4: and for some reason they didn't want to do it

2677
02:13:22,120 --> 02:13:24,120
Speaker 4: to their offense rather than their defense.

2678
02:13:24,520 --> 02:13:26,400
Speaker 2: Break for us here, Steve and I close it up

2679
02:13:26,400 --> 02:13:28,800
Speaker 2: on a Buffalo Football Monday next year on One Bills Live,

2680
02:13:28,840 --> 02:13:48,800
Speaker 2: presented by Collid of Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right,

2681
02:13:48,840 --> 02:13:50,400
Speaker 2: welcome back to the one Bills Live here on a

2682
02:13:50,440 --> 02:13:54,440
Speaker 2: Buffalo Victory Monday. We mentioned this on the broadcast that

2683
02:13:54,560 --> 02:13:59,200
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow is especially effective on first down. In the

2684
02:13:59,240 --> 02:14:02,080
Speaker 2: three games prior to the game last night, he was

2685
02:14:02,160 --> 02:14:05,160
Speaker 2: a combined forty three of fifty two on first down.

2686
02:14:05,640 --> 02:14:07,960
Speaker 2: I was running through the play by plays. I didn't

2687
02:14:07,960 --> 02:14:09,120
Speaker 2: get all the way to the end of the game,

2688
02:14:09,160 --> 02:14:12,080
Speaker 2: but through three quarters he was ten of fourteen on

2689
02:14:12,200 --> 02:14:14,840
Speaker 2: first down, which more often than not put them in

2690
02:14:14,880 --> 02:14:19,240
Speaker 2: favorable down in distance after that, and you know, you

2691
02:14:19,320 --> 02:14:22,440
Speaker 2: look at how that game started with two touchdown drives

2692
02:14:22,960 --> 02:14:24,840
Speaker 2: from the Bengals, and it's because he went eight for

2693
02:14:24,960 --> 02:14:28,400
Speaker 2: nine on the first two possessions on first down, and

2694
02:14:29,000 --> 02:14:31,080
Speaker 2: that just sets you up for the rest of your series.

2695
02:14:31,640 --> 02:14:33,600
Speaker 2: And they did have a couple of plays that went

2696
02:14:33,640 --> 02:14:36,640
Speaker 2: for minimal yardage, but still in all they were effective.

2697
02:14:37,200 --> 02:14:39,560
Speaker 2: And I don't know this because I haven't looked yet,

2698
02:14:39,600 --> 02:14:42,560
Speaker 2: but I would venture to guess Buffalo not quite as

2699
02:14:42,560 --> 02:14:44,400
Speaker 2: effective on first down last.

2700
02:14:44,280 --> 02:14:47,960
Speaker 4: Night, no I. And you know that offensively, it still

2701
02:14:48,000 --> 02:14:50,080
Speaker 4: looks like, you know, they're trying to play a little

2702
02:14:50,080 --> 02:14:52,640
Speaker 4: complimentary football, and they feel like that. You feel like

2703
02:14:52,680 --> 02:14:54,760
Speaker 4: their best when they're spread out and going fast. But

2704
02:14:55,960 --> 02:14:58,640
Speaker 4: I think they're I think they're probably leaning towards that

2705
02:14:58,720 --> 02:15:00,520
Speaker 4: more and more as the season progress. This is particularly

2706
02:15:00,560 --> 02:15:01,640
Speaker 4: the emergency the receivers.

2707
02:15:01,640 --> 02:15:03,160
Speaker 2: We'll see if it shows up in the game plan

2708
02:15:03,240 --> 02:15:06,680
Speaker 2: next Monday night. Tomorrow we've got Dan Orlovsky and Eric Wood.

2709
02:15:06,760 --> 02:15:07,720
Speaker 2: We'll see at one o'clock