1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sportsradio dot com, 5 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app 6 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. Here we go. 7 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: It is a Tuesday. It is great to be here again. 8 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: A little cesta, a little sabbatical. Jmax filling in more 9 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: than capably and appreciate that we are ready to go. 10 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 1: The All Star Game is tonight. We have Cal Rawley. 11 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: I grew up a Mariners fan. I wanted to be 12 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: the voice of the Mariners. At some point the organization 13 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: did not agree, so I ended up doing this. A 14 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: Rod joins us as well tonight. So it's All Star 15 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: Game night, home run derby NBA stuff. NFL camps are 16 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: getting quick to open very soon. Around the corner. Jmat, 17 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: good to be back, Good to see you. Yeah, great 18 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: to have you back, big fellow excited for today. All right, 19 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: So here's a story that's been simmering and sort of hovering, 20 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: like those like those upas those UFOs over New Jersey were. 21 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: Remember that for about a three week trial, kind of 22 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: hovering over what are they? That's what I feel. The 23 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: Lebron trade rumors are like nobody's quite sure what they are, 24 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: what they mean, they're out there. I think maybe it's 25 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: a plane. I don't buy them. I do not buy 26 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: the Lebron trade rumors. Here's why. The best contract you 27 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: can have in professional basketball is a superstar in his prime. Sga, Jokisch, Luca. 28 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: Those are the guys that win in May and June. 29 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: Rookie contracts are nice. Best contract, superstar in his prime. 30 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: Sga wins a title, Yokich wins the title. The second 31 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: best contract to me is a highly productive player with 32 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: a lot of seasoning who is still good, probably out 33 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: of his prime, and he has an expiring contract. And 34 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: that's Lebron. This is it. They can play with it. 35 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: Leverage to the Lakers. They can move him with the 36 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: trade deadline. They could move him now I wouldn't, So 37 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: why would you get rid of that? I mean, he 38 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: was twenty four eight and eight last year. He was 39 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: All NBA Second Team. He was sixth in MVP voting. 40 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: That's the highest in years. He's highly productive and he's 41 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: capable of helping you in a playoff series. I'm not 42 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: trading that away. And by the way, his agent Rich 43 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:32,399 Speaker 1: Paul has acknowledged publicly. Yeah, Lebron knows it's Lucas team, 44 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: So there's no real angst with Lebron James. He knows 45 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: it's Lucas team. They're going to take care of him first, 46 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 1: he'll get a new deal. So I don't buy the 47 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: trade talks. Also, you know this is the time of 48 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: the year, it's hey, how do I fill my three 49 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: hour show? How do I fill my column? I don't 50 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: buy it now. I do believe they will transition out 51 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: of this potentially if things go south, But why now 52 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: and why today? Remember the Lakers got better. There's a 53 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: lot of reasons to be hopeful. I do not believe 54 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 1: they are going to be as good as Houston. I 55 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: don't think they're Oklahoma City. I don't think they were 56 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: as good as Dallas. But JJ Reddicks in year two, 57 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: he'll be better. Browny's had a good summer league. He 58 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: may contribute. Luca's gonna be in great shape, and they're 59 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: better at center. I don't love DeAndre Ayton. He's allergic 60 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: to defense. Always sees himself as a one. He's more 61 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: of a three to a four, and a championship level team. 62 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: He'll probably be a three or a four for the Lakers. 63 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 1: We'll see. But that team's not a very good defensive team. 64 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 1: And to win a championship, Oklahoma City just proved you 65 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: can do it with defense. So the Lakers are going 66 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: to be very interesting this upcoming season, and they're gonna 67 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: be very good. They're not gonna win a title. They're 68 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: not going to hoist a trophy. They're not gonna be great. 69 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: Lebron's passed his prime, Austin Reeves can be picked on defensively, 70 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: DeAndre Ayton's moody, never happy and doesn't defend, and Luca 71 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: he'll be in good shape. But but you know you're 72 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: not getting much defense there either. But in Kobe's last year, 73 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: they were uninteresting and won seventeen games. They were awful. 74 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: So this is not a bad place to be very 75 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: good and very interesting. So I don't buy the trade rumors. 76 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: Hosts have to fill space. I think at the trade deadline, 77 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: as Chris Brussard said yesterday, things could be interesting if 78 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: it goes south. 79 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 2: I think he starts the season with the Lakers Now, 80 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 2: if for some reason it goes terrible, would they try 81 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 2: to move him at the deadline, maybe get him to 82 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 2: a team with a chance to do something in the playoffs. 83 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, something like that. But I don't see it going terrible. 84 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 2: They weren't playing good basketball, and that was on the fly, right, 85 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 2: That was when a roster. 86 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 3: Not built around Luca. It was on the fly. 87 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 2: Lebron had to all of a sudden adjust to be 88 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 2: in the second guy offensively, and they still played good basketball. 89 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,239 Speaker 3: So you would expect them to be better. 90 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: They will be better. They won't be great, but they'll 91 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: be good and interesting. Why move off that now? All right? 92 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: Tonight's the All Star Game home run derby Champ from 93 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: the Mariners. Cal Rawley will be joining us one hour 94 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 1: from now, a rod bottom of the hour. So Baseball 95 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: made a decision which I totally agree with. Actually two 96 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: they're going to have. He's only had five appearances, He's 97 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: four and one, he's six seven. The kid throws absolute 98 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: heat from the Milwaukee Brewers Jacob Mizerowski, they call him 99 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 1: miss and they decided only five appearances, Hey, we're getting 100 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: him into the All Star Game. And the purists have grumbled, 101 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: but they always take themselves way too seriously. Baseball's also 102 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: going to use the ABS system in the All Star 103 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: Game tonight. They used it in spring training, it's being 104 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: used in the minor leagues, and they're going to experiment 105 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: with it. It's very quick. When I initially heard about it, 106 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 1: I didn't like it, but it actually is fast, succinct, 107 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: not a huge replay fan. I understand. In football, with 108 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: only seventeen games, she got to get it right. But 109 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: they're gonna do both. Baseball strange. So when I was 110 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 1: a kid growing up, it had all sorts of personality. 111 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: Al Roboski, Mark Fiedrich, Pete Rose, Mickey Rivers. It was 112 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: all sorts of personality. Then it went through this weird 113 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: twenty year span where it took itself way too seriously, 114 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: way too rigid, way too beholden. The writers, broadcasters, everybody 115 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 1: took it so seriously and the sport got really dull, 116 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: and you heard about unwritten rules, and there was a 117 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: way to play the game, those two unwritten rules. Rob 118 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: Manfred is unwriting the unwritten rules. He's getting rid of them. 119 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 4: He's going to. 120 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: Experiment with a kid tonight the ABS system, and I'm 121 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: sure purists don't like it, but he's called a phenom. 122 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: You know what gets me to a television A phenom 123 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: not statistically superior player for the Phillies. Phenom gets me 124 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: to a television set. I don't care if it's a 125 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: phenom golf Caitlin Clark came into the league. Phenom gets 126 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: me to a TV set. I don't care if it's 127 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: a musical artist. The kid is six seven averages ninety 128 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: nine miles an hour on his fastball. He's probably gonna 129 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: go in middle innings, and I can't wait. Those unwritten 130 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: rules never made any sense, Like there are certain unwritten 131 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: rules in society we all understand, like when you go 132 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: to the bathroom, wash your hands before you come out, 133 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: or if you cough or sneeze, cover your mouth. But 134 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: you can't bunt to break up a no hitter. 135 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 4: Why not? 136 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: My job has not put you in the record books. 137 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: My job is to not elevate your legacy. It's a 138 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: two nothing game, three nothing game. You lead, guy in 139 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: front of me walk steal second. I'm bunning to get 140 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: him on eighth inning. I don't care. That's a you problem. 141 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: Remember the other one in baseball. You can't steal a 142 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: base leading big. I mean, I guess if it's fourteen 143 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: nothing or you can't stare at a home run, why 144 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: not you couldn't get me out? Throw be more wicked, 145 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: get the splitty over what evs? Rob Manfred's like, no, 146 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: let's have fun. It's baseball. This is called an All 147 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: Star game. And this kid's a star, he's a phenom. 148 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: He gets us to a television. Baseball got into real 149 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: trouble when it got really precious and really beholden to history. Guys, 150 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: we used to memorize baseball cards. That's what we did 151 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: at seventeen. Kids don't collect them. They don't collect them. 152 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: They don't run to the drug store in your local 153 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: town to get that piece of gum and you know 154 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: that baseball card. It's all over. I mean even the 155 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: industry of trading baseball cards, with few exceptions, nobody cares anymore. 156 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: So I love what they're doing. Rob Manfred said, speed 157 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: the game up. Every swing he's taken has worked everyone. 158 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: You don't have to love them. All Star game, not 159 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: all stats, not all superior production. For a guy that's 160 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: not getting us to a TV. I love it. I 161 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: think it's great. And here's Dave Roberts. 162 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 5: The All Star Game should be the best the game's 163 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 5: best players. It's about the fans and what the fans 164 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 5: want to see. So for this young kid to be 165 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 5: named All Star, I couldn't be more excited for him. 166 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 5: He is thrilled to be here. I'm gonna get him 167 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 5: in there probably the fifth of the sixth inning, something 168 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 5: like that, the seventh, and it's going to be electric. 169 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 5: So the fans, the media, you're gonna love it. 170 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: Tonight. Is a celebration. It's not determining home field advantage. 171 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: Don't be precious, don't be pious. Baseball did that for 172 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: about twenty years. They got really weird. And by the way, 173 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: the Savannah bananas right, like that thing is on fire right, 174 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: Why it's selling out? The fans are telling you, Yeah, 175 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: we go to the ballpark to have a beer with 176 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: friends and have fun. This kid is not in this 177 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: All Star Game tonight. If they don't put mis in, 178 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: what's getting me there? It matters six seven throws heat 179 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: I want to watch all right. J mac nick Saban 180 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: rumored to be headed back another roomor I don't buy 181 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: the college football will address that. The NFL execs came 182 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: out with a quarterback list yesterday that I absolutely loved. 183 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: That probably drove you crazy. 184 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 3: Of course you love it. 185 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: Of course no Rock Perty in the top ten, of 186 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 1: course you love it. I gotta look at eleven through fifteen. 187 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: I didn't see him there either, but whatever, I don't 188 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: want to rub it in this morning. Oh boy, oh 189 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: he robbing grenades early, okay. 190 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 6: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 191 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 6: in noon Eastern n a em Pacific on Fox Sports 192 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 6: Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio Appy. 193 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: It's me Rock Parker. 194 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 7: Check out my weekly MLB podcast, Inside the Parker for 195 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 7: twenty two minutes of piping hot baseball talk featuring the 196 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 7: biggest name the newsmakers in the sport. Whether you believe 197 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 7: in analytics or the Ie test, We've got all the 198 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 7: bases covered. New episodes dropped every Thursday, So do yourself 199 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 7: a favor and listen to Inside the Parker with Rob 200 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:18,119 Speaker 7: Parker on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast. 201 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 1: All right, welcome back, Alex Rodriguez joining us in about 202 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: ten minutes. All Star Game tonight on Fox. So you 203 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: know I'll be honest. I golfed a lot. I hung out, biked, walked, 204 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: hung out with the dogs, did not read a lot 205 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 1: or watch a lot of sports some but one of 206 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: the things that jumped out to me over the last 207 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: ten to eleven days was that NFL executives, coaches and scouts, 208 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: many of them through the years have been very helpful 209 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: to me and learning this game and sourcing this game, 210 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 1: released their top ten quarterback So this is the people 211 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: that draft them, the people that coach them, the people 212 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: that select them, the people that scout them. And it 213 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: went in this order. Mahomes, Allen Burrow, Lamar, Jayden Daniels, 214 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: Matt Stafford, Justin, Herbert Goff, Jalen Hurds, Baker Mayfield, and 215 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: I almost reached out to Jmack, but I didn't want 216 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: to get him all riled up. That's about as close 217 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: to my list as you can get. Now, believe it 218 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: or not, you're probably saying, well, what about Baker Mayfield. Well, 219 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: after a second good year in Tampa, he's closer to 220 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: ten than fifteen. I probably go CJ. Stroud at ten 221 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: because his size and accuracy, but he didn't have a 222 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: great year. A lot of that was his receivers all 223 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: got hurt, his left tackle didn't play well. But none 224 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: of this bothers me. Now. The reaction on Jalen Hurtz, 225 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: who you know, wins the Super Bowl being nine, was 226 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: predictable by his coach, Nick Seriani that said, you know, 227 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: this is a bunch of nonsense. I can't believe it, 228 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 1: and that's what a coach should do. But here are 229 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: three undeniable truths. Take a deep breath. According to PFF, 230 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: the Eagles offense was top ten in everything pass blocking, 231 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: run blocking, rushing, receiving, yet they were twenty first and 232 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 1: actually passing. Jalen Hurts is responsible for that. Oh. By 233 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: the way, eleven of us thirty two total touchdowns came 234 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: on rushes of one or fewer yards. Take out the 235 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: tush push. He had the same number of touchdowns as 236 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: Bryce Young and number three. After a week five by 237 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: and a philosophical reset by the OC, they passed the 238 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 1: ball less than any team in the NFL at twenty 239 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: four times a game. So you know, if your company, 240 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: you know, goes to one of those off site weekend 241 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: retreats and has a philosophical reset and they come back 242 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: and they decide, listen, employee, we're going to use you 243 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: less and they're more successful. That seems to be a 244 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:58,719 Speaker 1: pretty striking correlation. So bottom line, the organization literally had 245 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: a philosophical Brady and Tampa and Bruce Arians had this. 246 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 1: Remember like late in the season, they never lost. After that, 247 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: they had a reset and Tom was going to take 248 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: more control of the offense than Bruce Arians. They didn't 249 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: lose again, They beat Atlanta a couple times, they won 250 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: all their playoff games, and Tom hoisted another trophy. So 251 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: the Eagles basically they had one of those philosophical resets, 252 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: and what they decided was, this offense is great as 253 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: long as we passed the ball fewer times. That's a correlation. Now, 254 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: I don't have a problem putting in Jalen Hurts to 255 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: my top ten. I think he has great moments, great character, 256 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: great leadership, great power. I think pound for pound, he's 257 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: the strongest player in the NFL, certainly strongest quarterback. I 258 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: like him a lot, but I don't think any GM 259 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: sees him as an elite passer. I don't think any 260 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: GM saw Lamar Jackson initially as an elite passer, but 261 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: he has really developed. I still think Jalen Hurts on 262 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: third and seven from the pocket. I don't have great 263 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 1: vibes all the time. I really don't, but I I 264 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: do think he has great moments character and leadership and 265 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: toughness and durability. Here here's Matt Hasselbeck on the show 266 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: yesterday saying he's undervalued by the league. 267 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 8: I think he's definitely in that six to ten, but 268 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 8: you could make the argument that he should be at 269 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 8: number six. And I think why I say that, You know, 270 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 8: people don't give him enough credit for the quarterback sneak, 271 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 8: Like they just don't like they think, like, oh, it's 272 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 8: just a quarterback sneak. It doesn't count as just like 273 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 8: a free play. We should make it illegal. That is 274 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 8: a real weapon that he uses. And like so like 275 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 8: sometimes it's maybe easy to gloss over some of some 276 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 8: of the other stuff because he's not you know, he's 277 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 8: staying in the pocket. He's not bolting. A lot of 278 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 8: young quarterbacks just bolt outside the pocket. He stays in 279 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 8: the pocket, he doesn't flinch. 280 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: You're not gonna get a ton of credit for a 281 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: quarterback sneak, like he's the best at it. But it's 282 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: like giving a baseball hitter a lot of credit because 283 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: he's the league's best bunter. That's not getting into the hof. 284 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: You got to do more than that each year. Rod 285 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: could do that, but he had a great arm, hit 286 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: for power, and was uniquely gifted. He could also bunts 287 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: if you wanted him to. That's not really the point. 288 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: And so my thing what Jalen Hurts is he is 289 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: viewed fairly. And in my career doing this, I have 290 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: found that athletes after they've been in a professional sport 291 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: for five years are all fairly judged. By the time 292 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: you've been in it ten years, and Hurts isn't there yet. 293 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: Everybody knows your brand very early in Aaron Rodgers' career, 294 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: super talented, a little aloof can be prickly, great talent. 295 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: Is he a great leader? I think that's fair. It's 296 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: not a criticism, it's what he is. Even at a 297 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: golf tournament. Oh prickly Aaron and Aaron that's okay. But 298 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: the idea that after all these years in Philly, you know, 299 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: people just don't understand what he is. I think we 300 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: all know what he is. Great kid, great leader, great talent, 301 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: strong as strong. 302 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 6: Gets for that position, but he's not a top five guy. 303 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 6: Be sure to catch live a day of the Herd 304 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 6: weekdays and noon Easter. Not a Empacific. 305 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: Fourteen time All Star, a three time MVP twenty two 306 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: years an icon absolutely beginning to end. Alex Rodriguez at 307 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: the All Star Game is now joining us live. Okay, 308 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: so you made your All Star debut. You were twenty 309 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 1: years old. I red you know, you obviously would not 310 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: remember this. I remember being in the Mariner locker room 311 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: years and years and years ago, and you were, you know, 312 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: you'll talk of the team, and I was like, he's 313 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: like fourteen years old. Look at that kid. 314 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 4: He's a kid. 315 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 1: So you go, let's talk about MS. So I have 316 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: no problem putting him in the All Star Game. He's 317 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: a phenom. Let's not get precious. I want to see 318 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,360 Speaker 1: a phenom the kids six seven throws heat. I'm for it. 319 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 1: I am all for it. Go back to you being 320 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 1: an All Star at twenty. Were you overwhelmed by it? Oh? 321 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 9: My god, Colin and hello, I was so overwhelmed that 322 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 9: when I when I saw Kyle Ridkin for the first time, 323 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 9: my childhood hero. You know, he was like he was 324 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 9: like a statue was all. He had, like little gray hair, 325 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 9: he had these blue eyes and that was like, Oh 326 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 9: my god, that's my hero and I'm his teammate, And 327 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 9: that was the neatest part. It was in the old 328 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 9: Veterans Stadium in Philadelphia, and it was it was quite fun. 329 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, all Star games are interesting. You're facing the best 330 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: of the best. A lot of it is where are 331 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 1: the shadows? What who do you face? Your second at bat? 332 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: Your mindset there is there's not a time you're almost 333 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 1: like on Broadway. You're kind of performing like it's a 334 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: really different environment. Go go to your bats? Is the 335 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: all like like you face some like peer pressure, but 336 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: you don't face outcome pressure. Did you like All Star games? 337 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 4: I love them? 338 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 9: And look, this was a celebration of all your hard work, 339 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 9: dedication one thing has made to the major leagues. 340 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 4: But to be one of sixty or sixty. 341 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 9: Five guys that are the best players in the world 342 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 9: in the best league in the world, it was a 343 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 9: treat and it was an honor. I remember coming in 344 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 9: two thousand, we were playing right here in Atlanta for 345 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 9: the All Star Game. I had hurt my knee and 346 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 9: I didn't make it and Derek went in might to 347 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 9: replace me and he won the MVP. 348 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 4: But I remember staying. 349 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 9: At home so bummed and sad that I couldn't be 350 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 9: at the All Star Game. Ifn Look, if you don't 351 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 9: play in the World Series, that's the most exposure you're 352 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 9: going to get. 353 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 4: And you're showing off for the national. 354 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 9: Fans, for the global front fans, and also for the 355 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 9: community of baseball, but especially your colleagues and the other 356 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 9: seven hundred and forty nine players. 357 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of interesting stories about this season. 358 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: One of the ones that's fascinating. I've always said it's 359 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: hard to go into prolonged slumps. With hockey and basketball 360 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 1: game the game moves too quickly. You don't have time 361 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 1: to overthink a misshot. You get another shot in fourteen seconds. 362 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: But in baseball and golf, you got a lot of 363 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: downtime to think about that seven iron that went sideways, 364 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: or you know that at bat where you got fooled. 365 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: And so Raffie Devers goes from the Red Sox they 366 00:19:56,359 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 1: suddenly they're on fire. He goes to San Francisco. He 367 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: is punching out like he is struggling, And I think 368 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 1: a lot of it is when you're called like, oh, 369 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 1: he's the savior, he is what I think it's in 370 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: his head. Take me to that, because you added one 371 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 1: slump in your career. I remember in the playoffs, not many, 372 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: but some. I think this get in San Francisco. I 373 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: think it's I think it's upstairs with him. What do 374 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: you see? 375 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 4: Well, first it suggesss Boston. 376 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 9: Sometimes when you clear what's perceived as a stressful situation 377 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 9: and you clear the big brother, then it puts the 378 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 9: owners and responsibilities on the other twenty five guys in 379 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 9: that locker room, and everyone says, all right, there's a 380 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 9: sigh of relief. 381 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,360 Speaker 4: We've cleared the deck. Now is on us? Big Brother's gone. 382 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 9: So I mean, I remember when Griffy left, we went 383 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 9: on the next year to the playoffs, when we brought 384 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 9: in Mike Cameron and Freddie Garcia and Seattle. You remember 385 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 9: those years, and then I left and they got even better. 386 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 4: Right, So it's not normal. 387 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 9: But you have a Rod and Griffy leaving back to 388 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 9: back years and the team keeps getting better and better. 389 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 9: So there's something that's happening with the Red Sox on 390 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 9: the Devers. Remember he started the year really slow. In 391 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 9: his first twenty five at bats, he had like twenty 392 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 9: punch outs and it takes him a little bit to go. 393 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 9: He's also a streaky hitter, but he's a guy that's 394 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 9: been his whole career basically from Dominica Republic to fur 395 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 9: Myers to Boston. Now he goes all the way west. 396 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 9: So he's going from east to west. Adjustment number one. 397 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 9: He's going from American League East that he spent his 398 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 9: whole career in to National League West. And instead of 399 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 9: being hot and in Boston in the summer, is a 400 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 9: little bit cooler in San Francisco. So there's a lot 401 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 9: of adjustments you get used to. The ballpark is going. 402 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 4: To take him a minute. 403 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 9: I think he's going to hit, but hopefully this could 404 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 9: be a win win for both of them. But right now, Colin, 405 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 9: you're right, it's more mental than anything else when you 406 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 9: think about an adjustment. 407 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: So you know, the Dodgers have done this over the 408 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 1: last several years. They have like a June or July. 409 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: They I don't know if it's distracted. They often it 410 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 1: feels like they're setting up their pitching for August and September, 411 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: and they've a ton of injuries. In fact, part of 412 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: their payroll, the advantages they've gone out and acquired guy 413 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,239 Speaker 1: guys on the mound with some pitching injuries that they 414 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: don't need the volume in the regular season. They're looking for, 415 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: you know, in the postseason. So some of what they're 416 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: going through I think is fairly predictable. Two and seven 417 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: in their last nine go to the most talented team 418 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: you ever played for. Did you ever have a two 419 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 1: and seven streak? What are the players talking about? Because 420 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: you have all stars everywhere? 421 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, the Dodgers are such an anomaly and 422 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 9: they're such a unicorn. They're really the best run franchise 423 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 9: in the sport today. Two thousand and nine, we won 424 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,360 Speaker 9: the title of the New York Yankees when we beat 425 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 9: the Phillies. We got off to a horrific start that year. 426 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 9: In April, we were actually in last place, and then 427 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 9: somewhere around I came back from a hip surgery somewhere 428 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 9: in early May and Colin we probably played seven hundred baseball, 429 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,439 Speaker 9: not seven to fifty. We were almost unbeatable, but we 430 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 9: were really bad in April. The Dodgers play different game, right. 431 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 9: They have more resources than everybody, They have more talent. 432 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 9: They're Amazon, their Google, their Apple, they're their top of 433 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 9: their game, and they're signing as many people as possible, 434 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 9: leaning on their resources, and they're making a bet whether 435 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 9: that's so tany getting ready as they ramp them up, 436 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 9: or they're hoping that of the twenty five pictures they 437 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 9: have that eight or nine good pitchers are healthy October first, 438 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 9: and that's really the only thing they're. 439 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 4: Playing for, you know. 440 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: I think Rob Manfred deserves credit well. I said this earlier. 441 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 1: When I was a kid growing up, baseball had wild personalities. 442 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: Pete Rose and Mark Fidrich and Al Raboski and Mickey Rivers. 443 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: I mean, there was just there were It was wild. 444 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 1: There was just all sorts of personalities, and then they 445 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: went through a period some of it you dealt with 446 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 1: where there's a way to play the game. It got 447 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: a little precious, a little beholden the history. It's like, guys, 448 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 1: the reason we all love Ken Griffy. It was fun. 449 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: The hats on backwards, it's fun. And I think baseball 450 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: is doing that again, one of them. I've been very 451 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 1: pro Rob Manfred. I didn't initially like the idea of 452 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: the ABS system. I'm like, okay, I can barely tolerate 453 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: NFL replay. I just like keep the game moving. But 454 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 1: then I've watched it and it's pretty quick, so I'm 455 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: kind of like begrudgingly moving toward Okay, let's do it. 456 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: How do you land on it if you talk to 457 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: players about it? 458 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with you. 459 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 9: I'm a big Rob Manford fan, and I think he 460 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,199 Speaker 9: deserves a lot of credit. 461 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 4: Little Sino Handily. 462 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 9: I mean, with the changes he's made the last two 463 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 9: or three years to really save our game. He probably 464 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 9: belongs in Cooperstown. But the reason why I like this 465 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 9: colin technology has made the game better. Anytime you make 466 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 9: players and umpires more accountable, it's a great thing. Going 467 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 9: back ten years that strike you see right there on 468 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 9: the screen, eighty three percent of the time, the umpires 469 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 9: were getting it right ten years ago. Today the numbers 470 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 9: balloons in ninety seven. So is a much better quality, 471 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 9: much better game, much better accuracy. All those things are good. 472 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 4: Now. 473 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 9: The application of it, we have to go see how 474 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 9: it works. I know he's they've been doing it in 475 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 9: the minor leagues. I am really looking forward to tonight 476 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 9: to see how that plays out because I'm a little 477 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 9: bit on the fence, but I'm more pro because I 478 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 9: think Rob Manford deserves some credit. He's built some equity 479 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 9: here of the last three or four years with his changes, 480 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 9: and I think the game has it gets from the 481 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 9: curse of being so married to their history. I think 482 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 9: some of the other leagues have really pushed the envelope. 483 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,360 Speaker 9: And look, I'll give you one example, because this one 484 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 9: bothers me. I love the kid from Milwaukee being there 485 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 9: as we started this conversation. 486 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 4: He's only had five stars fined. 487 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 9: But if this is a game of stars and entertainment 488 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 9: and you have partners like Fox, Juan Soda needs to 489 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 9: be in Atlanta because there's no one I'd rather have 490 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 9: on the set. And you can't tell me there's sixty 491 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 9: players or sixty stories more compelling than Juan Soda, who's 492 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 9: had a phenomenal June. He was a Player of the 493 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 9: Month Back in the day, I watched Larry Bird and Magic. 494 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 4: I could care less if they had a bad first 495 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 4: half or an average of profession I. 496 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 9: Want to see Burd and Magic in the All Star 497 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 9: Game every year a year, and then you're out. 498 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, you and I agree. Finally, having been in Major 499 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 1: League Baseball, a former number one pick Texas, it's the 500 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: Yankees it's a broadcaster, it's the Mariners. Now you're a 501 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: co owner of an NBA team, The cultures are totally different. 502 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: Whereas the NFL is all about the shield, baseball is 503 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,719 Speaker 1: all about the ten year contract, the NBA is kind 504 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: of all about the superstar. Just tell me, having watched 505 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 1: the NBA now a co owner, is there anything that 506 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: surprised you about it? Is there anything as somebody that 507 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: knows sports about as well as anybody I know as 508 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: a former player, that is, the culture's different, more fun, 509 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 1: more interesting, captivating. Where are you with that? 510 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 9: Well, the history's much different, Colin, It's been I've been 511 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 9: part of Major League Baseball now for over thirty years, 512 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 9: and I've had some highs and I've had some lows, 513 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 9: but I've learned a lot of lessons along the way. 514 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 9: What's interesting about the biggest difference is that, you know, 515 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 9: we had Marvin Miller as a players Union, Then we 516 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 9: had Don fear as ahead, then we had Michael Wiener. 517 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 4: Now we have Tony Clark. 518 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 5: Uh. 519 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 9: You know, from the minute you come into the big leagues, 520 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 9: the enemy has been owners. Players and owners have really 521 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 9: had a really long, tough relationship. Where in the NBA 522 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 9: owners love love the players. The players have a really 523 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 9: good relationship with the owners, and that's been the biggest 524 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 9: difference that I've seen firsthand. 525 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, Alex Rodriguez, Fox, major League Baseball analyst tonight the 526 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: All Star Game in Atlanta. Great seniors. Always appreciate you 527 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: giving us some time. 528 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 4: You got it. Thank you.