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Speaker 1: So do you ever wonder why you can't connect with people?

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Speaker 1: And what if the key isn't more conversations, but actually

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Speaker 1: understanding the language they're speaking. Our guests today are here

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Speaker 1: to give us a powerful tool. It's helping people all

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Speaker 1: over the world learn to communicate with clarity and purpose.

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Speaker 1: But before you get to that, join me around the

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Speaker 1: table is April Simon. So we want to know how

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Speaker 1: to communicate.

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Speaker 2: We do, and we got our friends to tell us how.

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Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. I love it. And

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Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about an assessment that you can

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Speaker 1: take and you've done it.

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Speaker 2: I've done it, and it's y'all made me do it,

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Speaker 2: and I did it.

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Speaker 1: And I loved it. It tell me a lot. It

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Speaker 1: really helped me. Well, we're going to we're going to

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Speaker 1: help people understand that. Dorothy Newton, how are you doing

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Speaker 1: so good? Yeah, you're doing good. I am, And I'm

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Speaker 1: excited about this.

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Speaker 3: I had some previous experience in the corporate world with

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Speaker 3: it and that's worked really well with our guests today.

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Speaker 3: So I'm excited to just you know, hear more.

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Speaker 1: Rachel L. Brown, I know you're excited about the show today.

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Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, I'm so excited because this assessment literally

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Speaker 4: changed my life every area, especially in the workplace environment.

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Speaker 4: I just saw such dramatic results and how I could

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Speaker 4: communicate with my team, how I could get more efficiency,

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Speaker 4: get more done, less tensions. And then also like in

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Speaker 4: my marriage and my family, there's so much more understanding

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Speaker 4: and I cannot wait for everybody to learn about it.

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Speaker 1: And you want to talk about this.

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Speaker 5: I do over there things that I endorse.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that is a very hard thing for me to

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Speaker 4: say something. Give it that high on the interview, so

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Speaker 4: that shows you how instrumental it has spent.

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Speaker 5: In my life.

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Speaker 1: I agree. I mean it is fantastic and a kindle. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's important that we know how to communicate. That's what

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Speaker 1: it's about.

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Speaker 6: That's what it's about. We want to communicate God's love.

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Speaker 6: We want to communicate that to everybody, and we need

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Speaker 6: to understand our communication style, and then when we can

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Speaker 6: understand others, we can speak in a way that changes

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Speaker 6: their life, makes him feel important, makes him feel understood

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Speaker 6: and celebrated.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and David and Cindy Murdock are at the table

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Speaker 1: who are coaches, and we'll explain kind of what that

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Speaker 1: is and we're going to be talking about life languages, yes,

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Speaker 1: but this is really important, Cindy, I know, is something

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Speaker 1: we've seen, a tool used to help people. There's so

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Speaker 1: many like different tests and about there. There is nothing

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Speaker 1: better than this one.

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Speaker 7: This is like ninety nine point nine percent on and

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Speaker 7: David and I have such a passion for it. And

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Speaker 7: maybe we'll get to share a story later, but we

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Speaker 7: have such a passion because it was life saving for

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Speaker 7: our marriage, our families, our grandchildren, and what we've seen

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Speaker 7: it do in the corporate world, as Dorothy said, and

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Speaker 7: in the workplace, it's just it shows people the opportunity

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Speaker 7: and to embrace who God created them and how to

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Speaker 1: So it's just an amazing assessed So, David, everyone has

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Speaker 1: a lot of words to say about this. For sure,

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Speaker 1: that's a good thing, right, it's excited.

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Speaker 8: Yes, it changed your Life's changed my life, and it

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Speaker 8: brings to an understanding not only your communication but your behavior. Yes,

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Speaker 8: so why you behave a certain way, why you respond

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Speaker 1: Okay, we're going to get in that and talk about

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Speaker 1: the seven languages, which we have all seven, but we'll

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Speaker 1: settle into a couple at the top. We're going to

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Speaker 1: talk about that. But Live Languages is a groundbreaking communication tool.

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Speaker 1: This bringing healing and connection to thousands of people. And

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Speaker 1: of course any kindle David Cidey Murdoch are here to

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Speaker 1: share the heart on this powerful resource and how it's

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Speaker 1: different from any other personality assessment out there. I've seen

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Speaker 1: them all, taken them. I've never seen anything like this.

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Speaker 1: Part of the reason why is because this was created

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Speaker 1: from the word of God, and so it came from Romans, right,

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Speaker 1: and from the seven motivational gifts.

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Speaker 9: That's exactly right.

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Speaker 6: And so you and fred what Freda and I did

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Speaker 6: was probably good that God didn't reveal everything all at once.

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Speaker 1: And you didn't understand each other. You know, we didn't.

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Speaker 6: We had the same languages then, but we were more toxic.

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Speaker 6: So but anyway, God first revealed us the three categories,

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Speaker 6: which we call the three intelligences. And everyone has the

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Speaker 6: category of the intelligence of the thinking, the cognitive, the emotive.

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Speaker 9: The heart, and the kinetic are the action.

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Speaker 6: First, you do all three of them, but it just

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Speaker 6: they're the people who who respond to everybody and they

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Speaker 9: Nurses yes, and just people yes, but they're both are emotive.

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Speaker 1: you about it, David and Cindy quickly. Just kind of

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Speaker 8: Right. What happened is we took the profile. I thought

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Speaker 8: it was great, Sandy painted a picture of me like

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Speaker 8: She decided for us to go to premarital counseling, which

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Speaker 8: it sounded like a good idea. I didn't think I

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Speaker 8: She said that y'all gonna have some problems, and it's

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Speaker 1: And so you said, all I know is, oh, I

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Speaker 8: And we had a marriage license that we were getting married.

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Speaker 7: So it was like, so we got a second marriage license.

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Speaker 8: Didn't speak all the land. And I remember telling her

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Speaker 8: So she said anyway, anyway. Then then I told her

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Speaker 8: I said, I'm not doing it. That's just little tip

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Speaker 8: But then I said, I saidt's let's go back to Fred. Fred. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: I want to go through that training to learn. I said,

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Speaker 8: obviously there's something I'm missing. And we went through that trade.

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Speaker 8: It was back then, it was five days a week,

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Speaker 1: Then we went we want to be a coach. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: then a coach y, and now this is what you do.

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Speaker 4: I want to hear Cindy's side of it and like,

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Speaker 4: how did you see? This will help him understand you better.

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Speaker 7: The beautiful part I think was that David was so

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Speaker 7: there were times he'd say, Cindy, I can't deal with

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Speaker 7: So what happened was he learned not that he can

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Speaker 7: just communicate constantly in all that sensitive, warm, emotive style,

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Speaker 7: but he learned that's how I communicated. So he would

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Speaker 7: be that sensitive man and he would say, Cindy, what do.

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Speaker 1: You need and how do you need it from me?

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Speaker 7: Or he would allow me to talk and express my

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Speaker 1: And you learned how. And then I.

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Speaker 7: Learned he lives by a plan and I had to

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Speaker 7: get on board with that plan. And if he ever

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Speaker 7: would go into distress or the mover moves into action

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Speaker 1: Sometimes honestly, my head would spend because it's like.

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Speaker 7: I can't make a decision that fast, but he needed

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Speaker 7: fast decisions. But as we learned that and to this day,

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Speaker 7: seventeen years later, we still use the lifelonge.

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Speaker 1: Seventeen years later, when you work with and David, you

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Speaker 1: told me that you believe life language just saved your marriage.

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Speaker 8: It saved your marriage because I couldn't see, Like I said,

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Speaker 8: she didn't change. I change, and the things I saw

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Speaker 8: were different. I couldn't accept, didn't understand, didn't understand why

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Speaker 8: she was always available. Well, that's a communication.

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Speaker 1: Style response of a responsible It's.

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Speaker 8: Like, what do you mean you're always available? Or that

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Speaker 8: influencer always wanted to connect with somebody.

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Speaker 1: producer in shaper c do you have producers. I have producers.

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Speaker 7: You know something that is great about the doer and

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Speaker 7: I see this in David all the time is they

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Speaker 7: have such an.

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Speaker 1: Eye for detail. Very oftentimes I didn't see it. I'll say, maybe,

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Speaker 1: how in the world did you see this your dad

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Speaker 1: all the way down to the color or or I

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Speaker 1: mean italics.

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Speaker 5: We knew all the things. He's so specific.

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 4: The thing about doers is they love making a list.

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Speaker 4: So the type of people that will have already done

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Speaker 4: the task with the odds to the list just so

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Speaker 4: they get the joy of.

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Speaker 5: Crossing it off.

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Speaker 4: One of the things that doers in a work environment

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Speaker 4: have to be careful of is they'll get into all

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Speaker 4: of the like tiny things they.

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Speaker 5: Can move forward, they get bogged down.

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Speaker 4: Instead of focusing on like maybe that harder things.

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Speaker 5: They really just want to.

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Speaker 9: Get the vision.

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Speaker 1: But if you want to have somebody who works really good,

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Speaker 1: if you have the shape or doer combo.

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Speaker 7: I'm just telling because you want things finished, they will

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Speaker 7: go into distress if things are not finished and finished.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, how do you take the test without overthinking it?

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Speaker 2: Because listening somebody might say, well I think I'm that,

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Speaker 2: and you might have to.

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Speaker 6: Be honest on the question the way you are most

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Speaker 6: of your life, most of the time, in most situations.

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Speaker 2: I had a friend that took the test that talked

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Speaker 2: about how the questions weren't right on the test. They

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Speaker 2: were overthinking it, you know, So you just got to

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Speaker 2: go in and just take it.

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Speaker 5: You have to take off your mom hat.

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Speaker 4: You have to take off your worker hat, you have

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Speaker 4: to take off your husband wife hat. Everything, have to

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Speaker 4: answer the questions you are and quickly too.

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Speaker 8: People do not know themselves.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so they don't know how toy a. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: we did that? Was Steward done?

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Speaker 5: All?

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Speaker 1: Well? They said, we haven't really touched on responder. We did.

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Speaker 1: Responder David would have been a responder who would have

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Speaker 1: been a doer in the Bible, maybe Moses.

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Speaker 7: Moses is a doer and Martha Martha, Oh yeah, and

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Speaker 7: Mary would have been your respond.

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, Marry because she went by Jesus and just worship.

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Speaker 1: I am having to do all this in the kitchen,

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Speaker 1: I am doing all the work. You are doing nothing exactly.

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Speaker 8: That's a doer in distress.

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Speaker 6: And so a resonder I am the only one around

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Speaker 6: you or who ever does anything. That's a doer so distress, right,

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Speaker 6: and so responder David Mary would have been They they

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Speaker 6: in fact, wherever they are, they embraced that moment.

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Speaker 1: Is that right? In the moment?

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Speaker 7: Yes, I remember telling you that sometime back when the

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Speaker 7: girls were in college, because one of them just seemed

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Speaker 7: to be one hundred percent where she.

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Speaker 1: Was yeah, yeah, it's true, like you ever hear from them.

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Speaker 6: Their first and wherever they are right right, And you know,

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Speaker 6: if you line these up with Romans twelve, it's like

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Speaker 6: the mover is the prophet, the doer is the server,

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Speaker 6: the responders see, the influencer is exhortation order Okay, exhorder okay,

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Speaker 6: shaper giver producers giver. Shaper is administration and contemplator's teacher.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So that lines up. That's awesome. That's awesome. Well,

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Speaker 1: about what language you speak. But, like you said, April,

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Speaker 1: not just the language you speak, but your husband, your wife,

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Speaker 1: your Childredren. If you're in a workplace like Dorothy Wis

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Speaker 1: and you were having to interview people, it will help

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Speaker 1: tremendously light your job. It's so Rachel.

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Speaker 4: We'll say, if you work in the corporate setting or

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Speaker 4: any job, you're going to just have so much more success.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 5: You place people at the in the right position, and.

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Speaker 3: It's fun because it's a discovery time. It is who

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Speaker 3: you are and how you respond.

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Speaker 6: And let me tell you, Fred and I, we're not

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Speaker 6: smart enough to figured this out to have created it.

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Speaker 6: It had to be from God, because this came from

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Speaker 6: a mind that was greater than us. We're honored that

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Speaker 6: God used us, but he is the author.

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Speaker 1: We've done a lot of the other kind of personality, yes, communication, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and nothing comes close to this. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean I love this because it's seven languages. It's

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Speaker 4: really easy to warn them and get to know them.

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Speaker 4: So when someone says I'm this, you immediately know. Okay,

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Speaker 4: when there's like fifty different things like, you're never going

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Speaker 4: to realistically know that.

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Speaker 1: And it is all super easy.

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Speaker 4: To understand and use in a practical way.

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Speaker 6: And each language has a mascot on animal.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, so that can help you remaber.

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Speaker 1: Y'all know who the influencers at the table are right here.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, yeah, it's really really it has been a

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Speaker 1: real blessing. And Mike Rachel said, I mean, I don't

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Speaker 1: endorse anything like this unless I really really believe that it

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Speaker 1: really helps people. Well, we are at a time, but

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Speaker 1: I don't sure want to remember that everything rises and

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Speaker 1: falls on communication. God cares, of course, how we connect

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Speaker 1: because strong relationships build his kingdom. That's why He's given

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Speaker 1: prayer that you can pray today and just invite Jesus

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Speaker 1: you next time. By five today, Well, if resentment feels

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Speaker 1: like a weight that you just can't shake, I want

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Speaker 1: you to know that they're so hope. Today's guest reveals

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Speaker 1: how God empowered him to face his trauma, forgive his abusers,

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Speaker 1: and even forgive himself. But before we get to that,

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Speaker 1: Joiney around the table is April Simons. This is a

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Speaker 1: subject that's near and dear to my heart because there

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Speaker 1: are so many people that have unforgiveness.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, and it's really just hurting us. You

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Speaker 2: started out strong resentment. That's big, it's huge, but I'm

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Speaker 2: glad we're getting to it because we've got to get

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Speaker 2: to the root. If you don't deal with the issues

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Speaker 2: you want heal. It's true, it gonna be great. It's

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Speaker 2: so true and a kindle. This is something I know

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Speaker 2: you've dealt with in helping couples.

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Speaker 6: For you, Yes, absolutely, and Unforgiveness takes so much energy.

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Speaker 9: It's like hate and anger. It takes so much energy.

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Speaker 6: So why not to take that same energy and use

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Speaker 6: it for good instead.

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Speaker 9: Of wasting it on this other.

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Speaker 6: So today I think a lot of people will get free.

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Speaker 1: And Rachel, this is coming from the Bible, what God

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Speaker 1: says about forgiveness and why we are too forgive. This

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Speaker 1: is not like our opinion at the table. This is

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Speaker 1: something that can really set people free.

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Speaker 4: He says seventy times seven.

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Speaker 9: Every day or maybe every hour.

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Speaker 4: That's a lot of forgiveness that he's at the bar

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Speaker 4: really high, and he's teaching us that because he knows

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Speaker 4: that we need it, and.

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Speaker 1: So because of what he did.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know what, literally this is a topic

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Speaker 4: that applies to everybody that's watching. At some point in

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Speaker 4: your life, you're going to experience someone who hurts you.

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Speaker 4: And so this is something that you can learn and

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Speaker 4: grow and really like what you guys said, it's freedom

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Speaker 4: for you.

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Speaker 1: It is and Doorthy Newton. It's an ongoing thing. It

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Speaker 1: is on goal. So we can be offended every day

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Speaker 1: or we can't allow ourself to be offended exactly.

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Speaker 3: But the key is, you know, the word like Rachel

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Speaker 3: just quoted it a scripture, but even in Ephesians four

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Speaker 3: thirty two, the word tells us forgive and extend an

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Speaker 3: act of kindness.

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Speaker 1: I think God is asking a bit too much, but

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Speaker 1: you'll not forgive but extended acting exactly.

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Speaker 10: But it's essential.

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Speaker 1: It is. Yeah, that act of kindness. Kelly Dean. This

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Speaker 1: is something you and I've talked about so much. I

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Speaker 1: love you for that.

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Speaker 11: Thank you for all those times being there. But yeah,

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Speaker 11: and to me, I really know that I have truly

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Speaker 11: forgiven someone when I can turn on and bless them,

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Speaker 11: when I can pray blessings over their life, just like

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Speaker 11: I would for myself or my children or my husband

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Speaker 11: that I know.

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Speaker 1: Okay, wait, or you can see him or hear about him,

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Speaker 1: or hear their name and not feel that what I

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Speaker 1: call it? Yes, yes, yeah, then you know. Okay.

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Speaker 11: I'm like Anna said, you're just wasting your energy. So

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Speaker 11: we lease the chains and just walking through.

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Speaker 1: You let it go. Well, he's an author, counselor and

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Speaker 1: my amazing husband. Please welcome doctor Doug Wise. Always you

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Speaker 1: don't waste any time. That's so good, so good. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the table.

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Speaker 10: It's good to be here with you all.

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Speaker 1: I'm so glad you're here. Well, you know, Doug was

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Speaker 1: born into a broken home. He endured years of abuse

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Speaker 1: and neglect, and today he's going to reveal how God

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Speaker 1: led him into the freedom of forgiveness and why every

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Speaker 1: believer can tap into this life changing what he calls

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Speaker 1: a superpower. Now, you call it a superpower because if

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Speaker 1: we have Jesus on the inside of us, we can

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Speaker 1: forgive knowing that He's given us a superpower. Is that right?

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Speaker 10: Absolutely?

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Speaker 12: I mean when Jesus forgave us, that was super because

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Speaker 12: he had a din across for that to happen. Okay,

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Speaker 12: and when the Holy Spirit came, he gave all of

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Speaker 12: us a superpower to forgive. See, this is what a

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Speaker 12: lot of people don't understand that non Christians are stuck

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Speaker 12: because they don't have the superpower to say, I forgive you,

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Speaker 12: there's no more debt. Yeah, walking free, You're not controlling

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Speaker 12: my life anymore, and keep their hearts soft. So if

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Speaker 12: you don't have that superpower, your heart can get jaded

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Speaker 12: and hard and then all you get all these buttons

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Speaker 12: that people can push and you start acting weird and

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Speaker 12: you start looking like the problem.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, if the Lord gave Christians the power to forgive,

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Speaker 4: why are so many people still struggling with it?

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Speaker 12: Well, I think, first of all, Rachel, a lot of

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Speaker 12: people don't understand that it's a process for some and

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Speaker 12: we want to forgive. But also it's trauma, divorce, infidelity, rape, abortion,

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00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 12: all kinds of trauma.

658
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 10: Being lied about.

659
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 12: Okay with the social media, Oh my gosh, I mean betrayal, lawsuits,

660
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 12: all kinds of things that can happen.

661
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 10: And this is trauma.

662
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 12: And you got to deal with the trauma piece as

663
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 12: well as the forgiveness piece. And so in forgiveness for everyone,

664
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 12: we have people do the work, and it's work to forgive.

665
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 12: It's really hard. You know, we're not Wolverine. You know

666
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 12: where the bullet goes doing and we.

667
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 10: Just pop that pull it out.

668
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 12: Okay, No, we got to go in, grab that bullet

669
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Speaker 12: and pull it out.

670
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: We are kind of like well that we draw claws

671
00:33:59,120 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: and begin to describe.

672
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 10: Well, not in the name of Jesus. So what we

673
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 10: want to do is to be able.

674
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 12: If you're going to have pain, Jesus promises something. He

675
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 12: promised you will be betrayed. He promised you will be

676
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,280
Speaker 12: light about he promised you will be misunderstood in your family,

677
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 12: that there will be problems. Okay, he promises that would happen.

678
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 12: But forgiveness allows us to walk through that and not

679
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 12: smell like it. You know what I mean, Because you

680
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 12: know people who smell like they've been through stuff because

681
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 12: they're still carrying stuff.

682
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: I mean, there looks sour.

683
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 10: They do look.

684
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: So there's nothing to me sadder than seeing someone who

685
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: has unforgiveness and bitterness for years. Yes, and it just

686
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 1: shows on their face or count and it's how they respond.

687
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: It's so sex Yeah.

688
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Speaker 2: And I think too, what we don't realize when we

689
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 2: carry around and forgiveness, we're passing that down on our

690
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 2: children to take on the offense. And suddenly we find

691
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 2: that they're mad at this person too, and they don't

692
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:58,399
Speaker 2: even know why.

693
00:34:58,440 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: But mama or daddy was mad.

694
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 2: It's just a cycle that has to be broken.

695
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 5: It's really nice to be careful who you bleed on.

696
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 1: Yes, so true. Well, let's go back a little bit

697
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: and just tell a little bit of your story for

698
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: people who are watching who may not know, and how

699
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 1: you work through forgiveness yourself.

700
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 12: I mean, I was conceived in adultery, I was abandon

701
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 12: put in fosterph homes, I was sexually abused, and alcohol, drugs,

702
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 12: pornography all came into my life to medicate that. And

703
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 12: when Jesus saved me at nineteen years old, yeah, okay,

704
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 12: and then he put me in Bible school and all that.

705
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 12: But it was years into the process of following Jesus

706
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 12: where he dealt with me to say, okay, now you

707
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 12: need to really go through and forgive them.

708
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:37,720
Speaker 10: That was one phase.

709
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 12: And then forgive you and then go ask for forgiveness.

710
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: A lot of work.

711
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:46,919
Speaker 10: It was a lot of work.

712
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 12: And in the Forgiveness for everyone, I outlined how anyone

713
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 12: can do the work. And if you want to look

714
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 12: like Jesus, you got to walk like I forgive you.

715
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 12: You may be less bright than I wish you were,

716
00:35:58,640 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 12: but I forgive you.

717
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 10: Bless your heart. Okay, what about your.

718
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: List of people that you the Lord said, I want

719
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 1: you to go to them and ask for forgiveness.

720
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Speaker 12: Well, that was a little bit later in the process,

721
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 12: but I did it.

722
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,280
Speaker 1: So did you go to every person?

723
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 8: Yeah?

724
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 12: Every person I physically could, and for those I couldn't.

725
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 12: There's an exercise in the book that you can do

726
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 12: where you can just symbolically do it. But no, I

727
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 12: tracked some people down. I was you though, how no

728
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 12: one was actually like nineteen or twenty. So I was

729
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 12: able to get a hold of all those ex girlfriends

730
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:28,760
Speaker 12: without being married.

731
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 10: And you know ex people had to deal with.

732
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Speaker 1: So how did they respond when you said all of

733
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: them forgave me? Wow?

734
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 12: You know, even the even the guy who was my

735
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 12: boss at one point, and you know, I just need

736
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 12: to take responsibility from stuff, my attitudes in his place

737
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 12: of work.

738
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 10: And you know, he was definitely not godly, but he

739
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 10: forgave me. And he's like, bless your heart. You know,

740
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 10: you're going to Bible school and you're you know, you know,

741
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 10: bless your heart.

742
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 5: Who was the hardest person for you to forgive me?

743
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 10: It's always me.

744
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 12: Yeah, And I've counseled probably about five thousand people.

745
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 10: At least in the last forty years.

746
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 12: And I have this is therapy in a box. This

747
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 12: is worth about maybe three to four thousand dollars. Okay,

748
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 12: So when they do the exercise, you know, don't forgive

749
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 12: the person to rape them, don't forgive the person who

750
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 12: cheated on them for twenty years. Okay, But then when

751
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 12: we get to them and they have to look at

752
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 12: themselves and forgive themselves.

753
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 10: It's that is so true.

754
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 3: Like I went through that process, and I'm telling you,

755
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 3: I thought I needed his forgiveness, but when it came

756
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 3: to me, then and only then, I was able to

757
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 3: experience the freedom from guilt, shame, condemnation.

758
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: Amen, I mean that was the light. Yeah, it changed

759
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: everything because you almost like beat your own self. Yeah,

760
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 1: so you go back and rehearse and if I had

761
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: done this or that, you know, and you don't forgive yourself,

762
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: or maybe if you had done this differently or that,

763
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: and that's the wrong.

764
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,720
Speaker 10: Way to Well, you're still grieving that you're not wonderful.

765
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 10: Let's get over it.

766
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

767
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 12: Okay, we're all sinners, okay, and we all do silly things.

768
00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 10: Okay. It doesn't matter how old you are.

769
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 12: And if you ask forgoinness take responsibility, you can heal

770
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:03,919
Speaker 12: and if you forgive yourself.

771
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 10: You can move on.

772
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 4: Well, how did you get through that process of trying

773
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 4: to forgive yourself?

774
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:08,720
Speaker 10: It wasn't trying.

775
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 12: There's an exercise where you actually do it, Okay, and

776
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 12: it doesn't take long to do it. It'll take you

777
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 12: about maybe a half hour. Okay, you walk through, you

778
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 12: write down the things you need to be forgiven for.

779
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 12: You sit in a chair and you will play asking yourself,

780
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 12: and then you switch and then you come back and

781
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 12: if you can forgive, then you come back and accept

782
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 12: that forgiveness and you experience self forgiveness and you experience

783
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 12: Jesus forgiving you.

784
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 10: I've had thousands of clients who.

785
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 12: Were born again, filled with the Holy ghost, preachers, deacons, elders, whatever,

786
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 12: and I had him do Jesus even though they were forgiven.

787
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 12: I had him do Jesus because they sinned against Jesus.

788
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 12: And when Jesus forgave them, they literally broke down because

789
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 12: they experienced the forgiveness of God. It wasn't cognitive anymore.

790
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 12: It was I've been forgiven.

791
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 10: Oh my God, it's true.

792
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 12: And these are thirty four year old Christians, you know,

793
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 12: and they never experience.

794
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 1: Well, there was something about walking it out, and that's

795
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: the really what's powerful about the book and the DVD.

796
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: And you wrote this book after we got married, so

797
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: I watched you write the chapters and I would read

798
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:15,280
Speaker 1: through them, and it was really powerful because it seems

799
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: so simple and yet it's it's something that is an

800
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 1: act that you do. I mean, like, for instance, I

801
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: had some issues with individuals. Yes, it's all from time

802
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: to time, and because you could feel that inside of you,

803
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 1: and I didn't like that feeling that angst because I

804
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: want to keep my heart right before God. Okay, but

805
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 1: we all are going to have opportunities to be offended

806
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: and heard. People are going to say and do things.

807
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: They're going to lie about you, and you have to

808
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 1: forgive and move past it. But anyway, Doug says, I

809
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: want you to do the work, and I was like,

810
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 1: I was like, ok, I'm good. I am minister of

811
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: the gospel.

812
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 5: I know.

813
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: I was about forgiving. I mean, I know, and the

814
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: Lord's parisis forgive us our trustpasses as we forgive those

815
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: who trustpassing. I've done that. He was like, go do

816
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 1: the work. So the first thing you do, I'm just

817
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: going to tell you to give you a little hint

818
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: here because he goes through that what he's been doing

819
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: for years and counseling people come to see him for

820
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,720
Speaker 1: so I had to write a letter to that person.

821
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:23,280
Speaker 1: He said, don't don't leave anything out. Whatever you want

822
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: to say, you said it an angry letter. I'm angry

823
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: if I will, says be angry and sin not. This

824
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,720
Speaker 1: is my be angry moment. And so you just write

825
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 1: everything down there. I mean, when I got through with

826
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: that letter, you see that I wouldn't like for anybody

827
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: to see that letter and throw it away. But you

828
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,879
Speaker 1: have to laceraate to that wound so that you can

829
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 1: be healed.

830
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 5: And that's like you're getting all of it out to God.

831
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,800
Speaker 1: And then the next move is, and Afril, you experienced this,

832
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: this whole thing we're talking about where you have to

833
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: you actually he has like a what is it called

834
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: a little a bat, but it's a phone back and

835
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: so you do all this by I was he left

836
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: the house and I was in my room in the bedroom,

837
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: and you hit the bed or something, and you get

838
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 1: all and you feel like almost like is this really

839
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,439
Speaker 1: like something? And then you do the chair exercise where

840
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: you sit across from that person and that person says

841
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 1: to you everything that you really need to hear. Will

842
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: you forgive me, I'm so sorry for doing this to you.

843
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have done. And then you have to make

844
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 1: the decision if you're going to forgive, And then you

845
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: make that decision and then Jesus comes in. So, I mean,

846
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: it's a whole thing in the books and process and so,

847
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 1: but I will tell you after that I did that

848
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: for this particular person, I felt totally free, and I

849
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: felt like I felt like I had lacerated and let

850
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: that that poison owl. Well, And now if you talk

851
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: about that person or mention, I'll just be like, it's okay, Yeah,

852
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: you know.

853
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 6: I really think if we don't forgive that, we are

854
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 6: doomed to relive. Maybe not with that same person, but

855
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 6: there will be that kind of unforgiveness that keeps coming

856
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 6: into our lives unless we break that chain and do

857
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 6: the process and get free, because forgiveness does bring us

858
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 6: freedom if we don't. And I have known women who

859
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,399
Speaker 6: I know a woman who married a man he ended

860
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 6: up being an alcoholic. He was not when she married him.

861
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 6: She divorced him, married another man who ended up being

862
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 6: an alcoholic. It went back to her father, who was

863
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 6: an alcoholic, and she kept reliving that until she forgave

864
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 6: the father and worked through what she had to do

865
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 6: to reach that.

866
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 10: For And if you come from a.

867
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 12: Everyone comes from an imperfect family, but some are more

868
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 12: painful than others. Yes, okay, and a lot.

869
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 10: Of people have counseled had to do.

870
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 12: Mom and dad are siblings, are you know romantic early

871
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 12: relationships or people they've had sexual encounters with that they

872
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 12: weren't proud of her, stuff like that.

873
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 10: But when they do it, man, they're free and then

874
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,280
Speaker 10: they can go back. So here's true story.

875
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 12: I remember I was in Forward, Texas when I was

876
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 12: practicing there now in Colorado Springs. But this guy was

877
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Speaker 12: about sixty three four with and then he had a

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Speaker 12: Texas hat on.

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Speaker 10: So he's a big guy. Filled up the doorway.

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Speaker 12: And this was around the end of October, and his

881
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Speaker 12: mom was so abusive to.

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Speaker 10: Him, beat him, cursed him, was awful.

883
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Speaker 12: But they had a kind of a family tradition that

884
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Speaker 12: you never miss Thanksgiving, right, and so I said, you

885
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Speaker 12: need to do the anger work. So he wrote his

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Speaker 12: letter and he was he was in my office probably

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Speaker 12: twenty thirty minutes when it came in. He was sweat

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Speaker 12: and okay, how is amazing, doctor Weiss. Okay, he actually

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Speaker 12: went to Thanksgiving just two weeks after that, and he says,

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Speaker 12: you know, when I drew, when I drove up to

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Speaker 12: the house, I didn't have that angst. I didn't have

892
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Speaker 12: that hurt and an anger. I was able to just

893
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Speaker 12: huger and accept her from she was. And it was

894
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Speaker 12: the best Thanksgiving because I didn't have that I.

895
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Speaker 10: Really hate you. Yeah, it was so good. Yeah, you

896
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Speaker 10: know he's able to release her. So it doesn't work.

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Speaker 11: I don't think people realize that unforgiveness it can rest

898
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Speaker 11: in your joints, it can rest in your body, and

899
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Speaker 11: it can cause heart palpitations. It can cause anxiety and stress.

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Speaker 11: It's just like that young man thinking when I pull

901
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Speaker 11: up to this house, Oh holy I'm going to start

902
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Speaker 11: sweating symptoms. Yeah, And so I love that you're doing

903
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 11: it in the sense of, yes, you have to write

904
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Speaker 11: it and you have to say it, because sometimes we

905
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Speaker 11: have those dialogues like I'll be walking around the house

906
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Speaker 11: cleaning or something, and then I'm like and then I

907
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Speaker 11: would have said, and I'm like, oh no, I'm rehearsing.

908
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 11: Oh no, and then I have to go and I

909
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 11: have to pray about it. Right, But what are some signs,

910
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 11: because again, Dorothy touched on it and it was so

911
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Speaker 11: big that forgiving ourselves can be the hardest. Maybe how

912
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Speaker 11: we responded to the trauma.

913
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Speaker 1: How we responded to the page.

914
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Speaker 12: You can struggle with like worthless issues. Push good people out.

915
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Speaker 10: Of your life.

916
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Speaker 12: Bite bad people have poor boundaries, not take risks. You

917
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 12: can get stuck in a place where you're just not

918
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Speaker 12: the best version of.

919
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Speaker 10: You, you know, And that's sad.

920
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Speaker 12: Because you don't want someone else to drive your car. Okay,

921
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 12: you want to drive your car. You want the Lord

922
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Speaker 12: to drive your car him and you drive the car.

923
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Speaker 12: Don't let someone who's hurt you drive your car. And

924
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Speaker 12: when you get into forgiveness, you're kind of giving them

925
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Speaker 12: the steering wheel. And you don't want to be going

926
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Speaker 12: where they want to take you. You want to go

927
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Speaker 12: where the Lord has.

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Speaker 10: You to go.

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Speaker 1: That's great. Well, you know some people get stuck and

930
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Speaker 1: they say, okay, well I have to confront my perpetrator

931
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Speaker 1: before I can forgive them. They also say, my perpetrator

932
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Speaker 1: has to ask forgiveness for me before I forgive them.

933
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Speaker 1: A lot of people say that, and then some of

934
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Speaker 1: them say, you know, my perpetrator has to change before

935
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Speaker 1: I can pigue them. But the Bible business about those things.

936
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Speaker 10: Those are called miss and I.

937
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Speaker 8: Have missed.

938
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Speaker 12: Then these are manufactured stories that just come up overtutions

939
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Speaker 12: and their destruitions of men.

940
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Speaker 10: Ay, you don't.

941
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Speaker 12: Your perpetrator is not mature enough to test your giveness.

942
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Speaker 12: If they were, they would have and if you give

943
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Speaker 12: the power to them, they will continue to perpetrate your life.

944
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Speaker 10: Why do that, okay?

945
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Speaker 12: And you don't need it to forgive them, Okay, you

946
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 12: can forgive them from wherever you are.

947
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Speaker 10: And sit down and just release it.

948
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Speaker 12: And when you do that, you don't have to need

949
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Speaker 12: anybody's help to walk in forgiveness. You don't need them

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Speaker 12: to change because they may not be bright enough at

951
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Speaker 12: this moment to change.

952
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Speaker 10: Okay. They may be still hurt.

953
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Speaker 12: And broken and dysfunctional and crazy, you have a personality

954
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Speaker 12: disorder or an addiction, and they can't change.

955
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Speaker 10: So you go, okay, I'll thought waiting for you to change.

956
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Speaker 12: I'm going to just change the way that I'm with you.

957
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Speaker 1: So good. Well, stay right there, We're going to come

958
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Speaker 1: back and talk more about forgiveness.

959
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Speaker 13: We'll be right back. Some books deserve to be held, cherished, remembered.

960
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 13: This book is more than that. It's a place to

961
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 13: meet God. Every verse invites you to slow down to listen,

962
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Speaker 13: along with a journal that offers a quiet.

963
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Speaker 10: Space for your prayers, your questions.

964
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Speaker 1: Your journey, for moments of stillness.

965
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Speaker 13: For words that matter, Order your Bible and journal bundle.

966
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Speaker 1: Now, okay, we're talking about forgiveness with doctor Doug Wise.

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Speaker 1: Why did you write a book.

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Speaker 12: Doug Well, because as a therapist for forty years, I

969
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 12: saw the miracle. Every week people fly and do five

970
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Speaker 12: day intensives from infidelity, PRINORGRAPHI, diction and family issues whatever,

971
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Speaker 12: and I saw them actually be released, and not only

972
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Speaker 12: when they forgave others, but when they forgave themselves and

973
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Speaker 12: they were changed people they were like And so we

974
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Speaker 12: have feedback forms.

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Speaker 10: At the end of the week.

976
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 12: We'd always really helpful, and the forgiveness work was one

977
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Speaker 12: of the things they'd almost always say the forgiveness.

978
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Speaker 10: Work was hard, but it was the best thing I've

979
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Speaker 10: ever done.

980
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Speaker 12: And because they just didn't know how to get there.

981
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 12: And so this book is how to get there, okay.

982
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 12: And it's not a forcing thing that just gives you

983
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 12: the tools and then you can use them or not

984
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Speaker 12: use them.

985
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: Well, this is again, this is your many years of

986
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,240
Speaker 1: experience that you have put into this book.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, that's where thousands actually if you actually had to

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Speaker 12: come see me and do that, so I'd get the book.

989
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, book, it's a lot easier, that's right. Well, I know,

990
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Speaker 1: I love the process.

991
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Speaker 2: I'd love for someone to tell me how to do it,

992
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 2: because this is one thing that I've learned to have

993
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 2: to be leary of the remnants that you might be

994
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 2: carrying around. And what I mean by that, you think

995
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:39,240
Speaker 2: you might have forgiven.

996
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: I can speak from experience.

997
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 2: I thought I had forgiven someone, sure that it hurt me,

998
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 2: but then when their name was spoken, I remembered what

999
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 2: they wore. I remember that it wasn't that cute, and

1000
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 2: I remember you know everything about it. And my sister

1001
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 2: Lisa called me out and she said the next day,

1002
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Speaker 2: you know, she took on my dad, kind of looked

1003
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 2: like my dad kind of scared me a little bit.

1004
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 1: But anyway, she said, that wasn't like you.

1005
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 2: And until you truly forgive that, God's not going to

1006
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 2: take you to that next level of anointed. But I

1007
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 2: appreciate she saw my blond side. She saw something in

1008
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Speaker 2: me that I didn't see. I didn't know it was

1009
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:18,760
Speaker 2: still there. So I appreciate the process. If someone's carrying

1010
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Speaker 2: out around a remnant, if you haven't truly forgiven, then

1011
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 2: you're you know, you can't be heard by God.

1012
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 12: One of the signs you're alluding to, April is if

1013
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 12: you're in an unforgiveness, you find it very hard to

1014
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 12: think or say anything good about the person exactly. Now

1015
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 12: I can, Now you can, but you have to do

1016
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Speaker 12: the work sometimes. So if you've got someone, if.

1017
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: You've got something, I think.

1018
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 8: At the.

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00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 10: Work, because anybody.

1020
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Speaker 2: Free, it's not in them, it's to work in us.

1021
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Speaker 1: Respond.

1022
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Speaker 4: I feel like unforgiveness really is the root, and a

1023
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 4: lot of times people don't know that that's the root.

1024
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 4: And you just see the symptoms, right, talk about some

1025
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 4: of the symptoms that someone might be struggling with unforgiveness.

1026
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 12: If they have unforgiveness. I think in the book we

1027
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 12: talk about eighteen or nineteen of them. But like we

1028
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 12: talked about, they can't say anything good about them. But

1029
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 12: also it affects how you feel about yourself because as Christians,

1030
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 12: we know forgive or you're not forgiven. We know that

1031
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 12: we're not doing something the Father told us to do.

1032
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 12: Dad said forgive, he didn't. There's no caveats.

1033
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jesus said seventy times seven in one day.

1034
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Speaker 12: Right, which you know that's again, like Rachel said, that's

1035
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 12: a high bar.

1036
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 10: But what he's saying is, this is my standard.

1037
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 12: If I can come into time for you, live as

1038
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Speaker 12: a human, stinking human being, leave heaven for you, sweat

1039
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 12: with you guys, eat your food, die on your cross

1040
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 12: for your sins, and forgive you of everything you've ever done.

1041
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 12: You better at least be able to forgive some of

1042
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 12: that stupid stuff you.

1043
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 10: Guys do do each other.

1044
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Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying.

1045
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 10: It's kind of like if your dad, hey, let's not

1046
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:55,800
Speaker 10: paid all your bills. You're buying lunch for your sister today.

1047
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, I mean it's it's like the parable that

1048
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 1: he told us in the Bible, right where the man

1049
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 1: was forgiven.

1050
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 9: A huge dad exactly and then would not forgive, would.

1051
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 1: Not forgive his servant. And when the king found out,

1052
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: he was just like, what are you? What are you

1053
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 1: talking about? I forgave you his huge dib. You're not

1054
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 1: willing to forgive this small dit? You know, I'm going

1055
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 1: to dismiss you in doubt of darkness because it was

1056
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: a serious thing for him, And that's what Jesus did.

1057
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Speaker 1: He forgave us.

1058
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Speaker 10: He did, and I'm so grateful for that.

1059
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Speaker 12: And you know there's lots of people that I don't

1060
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 12: know if you even have been forgiven by Jesus.

1061
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:31,959
Speaker 10: But if you haven't, let me invite you.

1062
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 12: Yes, you know, he died so you could be free,

1063
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 12: that you could be forgiven. And if you haven't done that,

1064
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 12: just do it right now, some invitament in your heart.

1065
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 12: Say this out loud, say Jesus, Jesus, forgive me my mistakes, mistakes.

1066
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Speaker 10: I believe you died on a cross.

1067
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Speaker 12: I believes I believe your blood paid for all my

1068
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 12: mistakes and sins.

1069
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Speaker 10: Repent and make you lord of me.

1070
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Speaker 1: Right now, Jesus.

1071
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 10: If you said that, you have.

1072
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Speaker 12: Just experienced the forgiveness of God. And I know Jenny,

1073
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:06,919
Speaker 12: you got something you need, might want to offer them.

1074
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. We'll send you the Book of John,

1075
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Speaker 1: which is a great place to start in the Bible.

1076
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Speaker 1: And it's just our way of saying God, bless you,

1077
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: we love you, and we're excited about this journey that

1078
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: you're on. There's not a more important prayer that you

1079
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 1: can pray. We only have a couple of minutes. Touch

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Speaker 1: on boundaries.

1081
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Speaker 12: Well, that's really important because a lot of times when we,

1082
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 12: as you know, we get in a situation.

1083
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:29,399
Speaker 10: Oh no, just forgive them.

1084
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 12: What you don't understand my brother, my friend, my boss,

1085
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 12: my mom. They're unhealthy and dysfunctional.

1086
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: Is anything.

1087
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Speaker 12: And are you saying, doctor Weiss, I got to go

1088
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 12: back in there and get my face punched in again.

1089
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 10: No, I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying you release.

1090
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 12: The forgiveness and then you'll be able to have healthier boundaries.

1091
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 10: And you need to put boundaries like.

1092
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 12: Maybe I don't can kid with them, maybe I don't

1093
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Speaker 12: go to family situations, maybe I don't have them on

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Speaker 12: my Facebook page right, or whatever you have to do

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Speaker 12: to say I don't.

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Speaker 10: Need this function in my life.

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Speaker 12: When you want to treat me with the respect that

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Speaker 12: God you me with, I'm with you.

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Speaker 10: I will I will treat you. If you can respect me,

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Speaker 10: I can respect you.

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Speaker 12: But if you can't, then that's not someone's going to

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Speaker 4: Have that conversation in a way that doesn't create bitterness

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Speaker 4: on the other party side.

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Speaker 12: You can't control what they do, and if they're imature,

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Speaker 12: it's probably going to cause problems because people you need

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Speaker 12: that boundary with and you have to tell them you

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Speaker 12: need that boundary with are not healthy, So don't expect

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Speaker 12: a healthy response from an unhealthy person.

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Speaker 10: Expect them to.

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Speaker 12: Blame you, trigger you, yell at you, and tell you you're

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Speaker 12: self righteous, you're not a Christian, you're ungodly, you're all bad.

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Speaker 10: Things because they can't be bad.

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Speaker 12: But hopefully if they're reasonably healthy, it can be great.

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Speaker 1: If somebody is recentably healthy, or if you ask for

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Speaker 1: forgiveness or they come to you or whatever, you know

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Speaker 1: that God can repair the relationship and that's what he wants.

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Speaker 1: Just encourage that person that hasn't forgiven, that knows they.

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Speaker 12: Need to listen. If you need to be forgiven, I

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Speaker 12: would definitely do that first. But if you have someone

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Speaker 12: in your heart and life that's causing you that frustration,

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Speaker 12: you can't say anything good about him and you're stuck,

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Speaker 12: get forgiveness of everyone, Really do the work. I'm talking

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Speaker 12: to you as a psychologist, as a friend. You deserve

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Speaker 12: to be free, but you know what you're holding the

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Speaker 12: key as to whether you actually get free or not.

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Speaker 12: And if you put it in and you open that

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Speaker 12: door and you forgive, you get to walk out.

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Speaker 1: It's good. That's such a good word. Well, we are

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Speaker 1: out of town, but I want you to remember that

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Speaker 1: God calls us to forgive because He first forgave us,

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Speaker 1: and when we confess our sins. For John went and

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Speaker 1: on and said, he is faithful and just to forgive

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Speaker 1: us of all our sins, and it cleanses from all unrighteousness.

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Speaker 1: But he it's a commandment. It's not a suggestion.

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Speaker 10: It's a commandment.

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Speaker 12: And with this material you can actually fulfill that commandment

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Speaker 12: and know that you did it. Yeah, okay, And if

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Speaker 12: you get stuck. You know, anyone who's really hurt me

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Speaker 12: and I've done it, I just send them a gift.

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Speaker 12: I just bless them because then I don't remember what

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Speaker 12: they did to me. I remember I did to them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember that was since I know you do that,

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Speaker 1: and it's it's good. I did that with someone recently.

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Speaker 1: I got stole his idea.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, oh no, if a gift appears on my work, girl,

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Speaker 4: I haven't done it.

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Speaker 12: Some people be like, I don't know who this is from,

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Speaker 12: because I've offended so many people.

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Speaker 1: I know. I said someone to you, they had no

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Speaker 1: idea where to come for. Well, if you're watching today

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Speaker 1: and you need prayer. That's why that perilne numbers on

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Speaker 1: the screen. We have amazing prayer partners that are standing by,

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Speaker 1: always ready to pray with you. I want to thank

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Speaker 1: doctor Doug Weiss for joining us today. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: being here today, thank you for sharing about the book.

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Speaker 1: Be sure you pick up a copy of his DVD

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Speaker 1: and his book Forgiveness for Everyone at Joni Lamb dot

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Speaker 1: him online at doctor Doug Weiss dot com and has

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Speaker 1: your life. If you pray that prayer and invited Jesus

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Speaker 1: into your heart, call us. We're going to send you

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Speaker 1: the Book of John and it's just our way of

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Speaker 1: saying thank you. I'm so excited about this journey that

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Speaker 1: you're on. Of course, you can also listen to the

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Speaker 1: But I want to thank you so much for watching.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, of course, thank you ladies for sharing. Thank

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Speaker 1: you doctor Doug, and thank you for listening today and

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Speaker 1: receiving what the Lord wanted to speak to your heart.

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Speaker 5: Some of you.

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Speaker 1: Watching, there are some people out there, there are some

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Speaker 1: situations that have happened, and God is knocking on your

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Speaker 1: heart story saying, you know what, I want you to

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Speaker 1: deal with this. I want you to deal with it.

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Speaker 1: I can't think of a better way than to get

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Speaker 1: this book Forgiveness for everyone and go through the exercises

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Speaker 1: that He's done for years that have helped people. Well,

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Speaker 1: we love you, We'll see you next time. By by

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