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Speaker 1: You don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: That's right, you heard the man that's out of the week.

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Speaker 2: My name is Bernie Frodlewick County Line from the Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio studios here in Las Vegas will take you

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Speaker 2: up to three am Pacific, six am Eastern.

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Speaker 3: My goodness, what a day.

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Speaker 2: And I know you've heard me say it a thousand times,

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Speaker 2: So what's once more? Sports are the greatest reality show

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Speaker 2: we have and you can script everything but the ending,

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Speaker 2: and the ending for some will come in about ten

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Speaker 2: hours aid nine am Pacific, Dune eastern. The Committee, oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: that committee that I think no one is fond of,

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Speaker 2: will decide the fate of the twelve winners. And what

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Speaker 2: I now again am going to characterize as to what

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Speaker 2: I believe will ultimately be the maid for TV Invitational.

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Speaker 3: Later in the show, I'm going to project my twelve.

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Speaker 2: I'll tease.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 2: Here's why I believe the final the buys will be

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Speaker 2: the first four. I believe Indiana will be number one,

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Speaker 2: Georgia will be number two, Ohio State three, in Texas

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Speaker 2: Tech four. I had them all four right last year,

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Speaker 2: most of the twelve last year. Later on we're going

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Speaker 2: to get to the twelve in the show, I'll project

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Speaker 2: what I think is going to happen. And what's interesting

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Speaker 2: is that I've already seen projections out there that include Alabama. Fine,

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Speaker 2: it's the made for TV Invitational, but up until now,

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Speaker 2: I had never seen in any playoff a three loss team.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying i'd complain if Alabama gets in, far

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Speaker 2: from it, but I've never seen a three loss team. Oh,

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Speaker 2: by the way, I've never seen a scenario where there

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Speaker 2: were two teams with the identical record that played each

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Speaker 2: other in the regular season and the loser advanced to

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Speaker 2: the playoffs and the winner stayed home. And I'm seeing

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Speaker 2: one projection from the Eastern Seaboard network that has that

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Speaker 2: very thing, Notre Dame in and Miami out and Alabama,

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Speaker 2: And we'll see. I'll give you my projections later in

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Speaker 2: the show, toward the end of the show, but probably

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Speaker 2: very thorough and granular about it and why I think

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Speaker 2: who's gonna end up where. But before we get to that,

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Speaker 2: you can't tell that story without very much chronicling and

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Speaker 2: annotating what turned out to be an incredible.

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Speaker 3: Conference championship Saturday.

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Speaker 2: And if the great John Facenda were still alive and

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Speaker 2: you ask him to describe Kurt Signetti, I'm sure he

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Speaker 2: would hit us as one of his you know, he's patented.

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Speaker 2: To describe Kurt Signette would be to drain the vocabulary

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Speaker 2: of superlatives. There's only one thing I can say about

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Speaker 2: Signetti that hasn't been said. I think he made it

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Speaker 2: look too easy. Indiana. I think you could make a

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Speaker 2: case just won the most impressive conference championship in the

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Speaker 2: history of college football. The last share of the Big

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Speaker 2: Ten was nineteen sixty seven. The last time they won

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Speaker 2: the Big Ten title, lot right, was eighty years ago.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, they hadn't beaten Ohio State since well, let's

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Speaker 2: put it this way, I think Ronald Reagan was finishing

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Speaker 2: up his first term. That's the last time, and he

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Speaker 2: ended to beat Ohio State again. I I think somehow

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Speaker 2: Signetti made it look too easy.

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Speaker 3: He burst onto the seam last year with.

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Speaker 2: That great press conference and Reggie Jackson type of braggadoccio,

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Speaker 2: but only he's done to back it up. A twenty

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Speaker 2: four and two record with the Hoosiers last year was

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Speaker 2: completely eye popping in and of himself. But then he

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Speaker 2: did lose to India. He lost to a Notre Dame

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Speaker 2: at Ohio State. Now he's you know, he's he's you know,

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Speaker 2: beating Ohio State. So the only cheam that's beaten in

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Speaker 2: the end they haven't beaten was would be Notre Dame

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Speaker 2: and they make it well, get to cracking.

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Speaker 2: Well that's right, you heard the man. Is that time

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Speaker 2: of week? My name is Bernie Frederick, Come to your line.

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Speaker 2: From the Fox Sports Radio studios here in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 2: We take up to three am Pacific six am Eastern,

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Speaker 2: and as usual, even though I've only got four hours,

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Speaker 2: I've got about six hours the material will try to

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Speaker 2: get to it all. Actually probably seven hours thanks to

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Speaker 2: that load in the shorts. Lane Kiffin, who if you

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Speaker 2: don't know by now, Lane Kiffin has a very well

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Speaker 2: documented history of abrupt departures, controversial departures from several high

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Speaker 2: profile coaching jobs. This may be the Cherriot on the cake.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is so stupid. We're gonna hit to

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Speaker 2: it later. I'll give you a chronology. He obviously has

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Speaker 3: But I digress. I wanted to get to what should

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Speaker 3: have been the biggest news of the day.

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Speaker 2: And if you happen to watch the Michigan Ohio State

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Speaker 2: game today, it is the greatest rivalry in all the sports.

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Speaker 2: It covered fourteen of him. It started out as a

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Speaker 2: land war in the eighteen hundreds, So think what you want.

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Speaker 2: But as you know, I look for turning points of

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Speaker 2: the game, and with about six minutes to go in

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Speaker 2: six to nothing. Ohio State's Bo Jackson took a little

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Speaker 2: whip nay Na stanky leg on Michigan's Jimmy Rolder and

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Speaker 2: because I was on with Aaron and Jason last week,

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Speaker 2: I said, look, Michigan just will not be able to

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Speaker 2: anybody who thought Ohio State wasn't physical when now you're

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Speaker 2: but I think collectively you all can say your apologies

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Speaker 2: to Ryan Day now. I mean I have never He's

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Speaker 2: Urban Meyer, let's face it, okay, And then heading into

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Speaker 2: And by the way, heading into this season, what if

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Speaker 2: But since losing to Michigan last year on November thirtieth,

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Speaker 2: Ryan Day is now sixteen to zero, including wins over

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Speaker 2: is preseason number one? And if you're scoring at home

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Speaker 2: and hope you are. Ryan Day is now two and

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Speaker 2: four versus Michigan. Won a national championship in his fifth year.

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Speaker 2: Remember Jimmy Harball, Jimmy Joseph Harrorball. He actually started out

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Speaker 2: zero to five against Ohio State. But those same people

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Speaker 2: that would put Harball and deify him, and no doubt

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Speaker 2: he's a Hall of Fame coach, no argument you want

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Speaker 2: to treat Ryan Day like a bastard child. Harball won

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Speaker 2: a Nationnaty in his eighth year, day one in his fifth.

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Speaker 2: So back to that physical part. Yeah, Ohio State out

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Speaker 2: gained Michigan today four hundred and nineteen yards to one

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Speaker 3: Just the facts, man, you don't like him.

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Speaker 2: Not my problem. Tile possession forty minutes to nineteen minutes

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Speaker 3: I like the way he carries himself.

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Speaker 2: I think he's got a lot of ability, but I

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Speaker 2: don't see twelve million bucks yet. And I saw a

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Speaker 2: lot of air and throws today that were late, not

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Speaker 2: the second half. But give Michigan credit. Their best defensive

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Speaker 2: I could say this.

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Speaker 3: I lived there.

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Speaker 2: I lived in that area for seventeen years, covered that

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Speaker 3: My dear mother went to the University of Michigan.

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Speaker 2: It's a dignified institution, a wonderful institution, but they didn't

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Speaker 2: what the hell was that about? That tarnished a situation

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Speaker 2: that he's really majestic. And that's the Ohouse State Michigan

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Speaker 2: They get to go to Columbus last year. Next year,

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Speaker 3: After the game.

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Speaker 2: He said, look, they came in here and took care

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Speaker 2: when the line of scrimmage won everything and Ryan Dave

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Speaker 2: after that. Before that, Ohiose stated like seven in a row,

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Speaker 2: to eighteen ninety seven. So now Michigan's had their little run.

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Speaker 2: They celebrated a little bit too much, and Michigan's got

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Speaker 2: a talent disparity.

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Speaker 3: We'll see what happens next year.

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Speaker 2: But look, the truth of the matter is, until coach

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Speaker 2: diet Day can reel off more victories against Michigan, He's

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Speaker 2: frozen posture following that twenty twenty four meltdown is going

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Speaker 2: to continue to circulate. That's just the way the world works.

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Speaker 2: People love to dunk on each other, But the truth

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Speaker 2: of the matter is, you know, Ryan Day has the

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Speaker 2: last laugh. Saturday, his rebuilt offensive line completely dominated the

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Speaker 2: line of scrimmage. They gave Julian say in plenty of time,

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Speaker 2: and there were tremendous rushing leyans for bo Jackson, who

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Speaker 2: point of attack very much. Did bother Bryce Underwood enough

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Speaker 2: to hold the Wolverines. Bryce underwent through for sixty three yards. Now,

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Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, but David Warren, the starting quarterback

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Speaker 2: for twelve million and you get one more yard I got.

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Speaker 2: I'm starting to wonder is he being developed properly at Michigan.

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Speaker 2: I don't see a lot of progression from week one

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Speaker 2: to what I saw Saturday. I'm sorry, and I saw it.

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Speaker 2: All right? This is Bernie Prattle, Fox Sports Radio. Apologize

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Speaker 2: we have internet issues. Mark. Can you hear me? Am

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Speaker 2: So we're efforting my guest, Joe Gibbs, NFL repst at

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Speaker 7: We're effitting right now.

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Speaker 2: Okay, just listen. Just to wrap up what Kurt Signetti

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Speaker 8: Yep, Hey, Bunny, Joe, welcome man.

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Speaker 2: I explained to you we had some technical difficulties. Let's

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Speaker 2: That game will be refereed by a gentleman named Alan Eck,

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so Eck was promoted to a head referee in

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Speaker 8: This is essentially a playoff game, and the teams are

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Speaker 3: Right, Joe.

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Speaker 2: They impressed me last week with the complimentary football they played,

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Speaker 2: the number one ranked penalized team for offensive holding and

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Speaker 2: this crew does call it above and beyond most.

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Speaker 8: So we'll see. I always look at early in the game,

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Speaker 8: are they're going to stop calling it early? That kind

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Speaker 8: of sets the tone for the rest of the game.

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Speaker 8: So again, if you're watching the game, you're looking to

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Speaker 8: better in game or half time, just keeping eye on

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Speaker 8: the crew and how they call the game early because

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Speaker 8: that'll often you know, dictate how things go for the

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Speaker 8: rest of the game.

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Speaker 2: And there's one other things too to note. Although Cincinnati's metrics,

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Speaker 2: which you've kept throughout the year don't cast them in

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Speaker 2: a very favorable light with respect to their ability to

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Speaker 2: commit a lot of penalties, that was when they didn't

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Speaker 2: have Joe Burrow. They're much less penalized team with Joe

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Speaker 2: Burrow under center. You got the last words.

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Speaker 8: Oh, absolutely, they've been one of the most efficient cheams

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Speaker 8: when Borrow is there. They're always in the bottom you know,

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Speaker 8: bottom five, bottom three teams as far as penalties per game.

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Speaker 8: That splats when he's not there, because the offense gets

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Speaker 8: a little sloppy. But as far as committing penalties, that

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Speaker 8: one of the least penalizement Borrow is there. Also that

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Speaker 8: one of the most efficient at generating penalties on the

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Speaker 8: opposing deep of the opposing defense as far as defensive

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Speaker 8: possil affairs, defensive holding, things like that, they're always in

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Speaker 8: the top three getting those big chunk yardage plays by penalties.

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Speaker 8: So keep that, keep that in mark tomorrow as well.

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Speaker 2: It feels like and then he puts the points is

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Speaker 2: a good bargain based on all the data, I think

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Speaker 2: you've got. A three point Buffalo win would not surprise

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Speaker 2: be honestly at all if Cincinnati would have went out right.

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Speaker 2: Which brings me to the next game, which seems like

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Speaker 2: a monumental game for both teams. The Bears incredibly are

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Speaker 2: the number one overall seed as of December seventh, and

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Speaker 2: you and I both agree, how long can they keep

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Speaker 2: up this high wire act? So far they keep defying it.

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Speaker 2: So they head into Green Bay for a tough divisional matchup,

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Speaker 2: and they're all about, you know, I'm the guys who

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Speaker 2: Craig Rollstad, what is Craig Rollstad style? And that might him?

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Speaker 2: How might ee and the lead referee playing to this game?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, well, roll Stat's crew led the league in presnat

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Speaker 8: penalty percentage. That means overall percentage of their penalty is

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Speaker 8: the highest amount called by a pre snat penalties last season.

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Speaker 8: They've dialed it back a little bit this year, but

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Speaker 8: they still above average of you know, enforcing pre snap

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Speaker 8: infractions that could be problematic for Chicago. They're ranked as

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Speaker 8: the top three penalized team for pre stat penalties. Now

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Speaker 8: that's a little bit misleading because a lot of that's

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Speaker 8: front loaded. They were really sloppy to start the season

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Speaker 8: and they have improved in this past you know, three

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Speaker 8: or four games. So if they can keep that up tomorrow,

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Speaker 8: they should be okay. They should be able to navigate

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Speaker 8: this crew. But you know, you're at Lambeau. You got

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Speaker 8: that pack of defense penning its ease back if you

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Speaker 8: if you start committing you know, false start to llegal shifts,

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Speaker 8: things of that nature. You know, it's it's it's tough floting.

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Speaker 8: You got to get pack of defense there. The thing

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Speaker 8: with rollstat is sixty one percent of these presnat penalties

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Speaker 8: this year have been on the team, so they do

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Speaker 8: zero in more on the on the road team in

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Speaker 8: this one. You know, Rollstead's officiated quite a few games

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Speaker 8: between these two teams. Uh, this will be his fifth

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Speaker 8: game in five years doing these two teams. Green Bay

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Speaker 8: has a good record with Rolstead versus the Bears and overall,

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Speaker 8: but you know, some of that stuffs a little bit misleading.

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Speaker 8: I mean, the Packers have just been a better team

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Speaker 8: and it wouldn't matter who was official. It could be

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Speaker 8: you Bernie officiating and they still probably win. So it's

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Speaker 8: not necessarily because the Rollstead per se. It's just it's

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Speaker 8: just happened to be. He was officiated a lot of

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Speaker 8: games between these two teams, and green Bay's come out

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Speaker 8: on the top. But yeah, Prestatt penalty tomorrow, that's a

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Speaker 8: big one to look for. Chicago was a disaster in

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Speaker 8: that category early in the year, but like I said,

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Speaker 8: they've cleaned it up, and if they can do that tomorrow,

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Speaker 8: they got a chance. I like green Bay. You know

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Speaker 8: the whole Ben Johnson thing talking smack about you know

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Speaker 8: we're gonna win two games a year against the Packers

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Speaker 8: and that. Yeah, well, I mean, look, he said that

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Speaker 8: in January the press conference, and it's one thing to

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Speaker 8: say it in January, but now it's time to actually

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Speaker 8: back it up. So here we are in December, it's

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Speaker 8: time to back it up. So we'll see what happens tomorrow.

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Speaker 8: I think I think Rossett will try to let him play.

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Speaker 8: But I like green Bay in this one. I think, Look,

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Speaker 8: I think green Bay's best is as good as anyone's best. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: the question is you actually get that best because they

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Speaker 8: can be very choppy, but you know, they should be

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Speaker 8: focused tomorrow, and again, we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 2: We've been waiting for a week with its highway Iraq,

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Speaker 2: the crash to the ground. You could have got the

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Speaker 2: barras at seven earlier in the week. I think those

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Speaker 2: are gone now. I feel like green Bay wins by

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Speaker 2: about seven. But I yeah, you know, I'm not laying him.

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Speaker 8: No, I look back to give an opinion. So if

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Speaker 8: I had to be, it will be green Bay or

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Speaker 8: nothing for me. That that lambeau Field. I know thet

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Speaker 8: a couple of games that this year, but it wasn't

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Speaker 8: because of the It wasn't because of the defense. In

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Speaker 8: those games, they held Philly to ten points. I think

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Speaker 8: they held Carolina for like six.

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Speaker 9: Animal.

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Speaker 8: Third thing, the defense is going to show up. It's

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Speaker 8: just a matter of can the offense come in focused

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Speaker 8: and quick?

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Speaker 2: All right, Joe, Last game Indiana versus Jacksonville. This one

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Speaker 2: has me intrigued to have Jacksonville as a dog at

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Speaker 2: home as part of a teaser. As part of a

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Speaker 2: teaser of pair, Jacksonville actually had the Indianapolis his number

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Speaker 2: over the years. But again, this is a situation where

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Speaker 2: you know it's it's an independent trial, and I believe

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Speaker 2: John Hutche's on this crew. Is that correct.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, the afore mentioned John Hussey we talked about in

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Speaker 8: the first game. So he's on this game. And if

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Speaker 8: anyone doesn't really know who he is, he officiated last week.

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Speaker 8: He did the Kansas City Dallas game and he still

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Speaker 8: had that kind of tilted to the Dallas's favor with

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Speaker 8: a lot of the Coals in that game. So that's

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Speaker 8: this crew on the Colts and Jags tomorrow. A very

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Speaker 8: good home field referee. This is going back to twenty

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Speaker 8: sixteen home teams one oh nine and forty nine straight

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Speaker 8: up sixty winning percentage with these guys. That includes seven

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Speaker 8: full the home teams this season. Again, he puts more

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Speaker 8: focus on the offensive holding false start combinations than league average,

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Speaker 8: and that could be a problem for Jacksonville. They're the

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Speaker 8: number one penalized team in the league and they do

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Speaker 8: struggle in that category of false starts offensive holding. Now,

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Speaker 8: so far they've won in spite of that and so

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Speaker 8: that but that would be a concern for me because

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Speaker 8: the Colts do have a major advantage in those two categories,

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Speaker 8: and those are the most important ones. The Jags offensive

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Speaker 8: top five beneficiary of automatic first downs via penalty, you know,

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Speaker 8: via defensive pass and affairance, defensive holding, stuff like that.

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Speaker 8: But Hockey's crew ranks number one for calling defensive pass

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Speaker 8: and afferance. And again, going back to that Kansas City

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Speaker 8: Dallas game last week, you saw a ton of defensive

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Speaker 8: pass and appearance calls on the Chiefs. So that could

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Speaker 8: be to Jacksonville's favorite if form holds the teams themselves.

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Speaker 8: I mean, look, the Colts team now is not the

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Speaker 8: same as that Colts team will seeing the first half

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Speaker 8: of the season. And Daniel Jones is on a broken figure.

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Speaker 8: I don't know, I'm not a doctor at but doesn't

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Speaker 8: sound good. Let's just put it that way, especially for

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Speaker 8: a guy like him that needs these legs, and we

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Speaker 8: got that threat with him, with him potentially running, it

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Speaker 8: takes away a big part of that offense. And so

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Speaker 8: Jacksonville's run defense is actually very good. I did watch them.

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Speaker 8: I don't think they're a great team, but the run defense,

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Speaker 8: from what I'm saying, is pretty good. And obviously Colts

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Speaker 8: everything runs through Jonathan Taylor, So I like Jacksonville here

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Speaker 8: as well. The Colts have struggled down there. You mentioned that,

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Speaker 8: I think it's been like ten years since they won

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Speaker 8: down there, and they had some good teams over that time.

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Speaker 8: There were times when Andrew Luckwoo on there and the

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Speaker 8: culture flavored block sixt eighty points and they lost.

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Speaker 2: Joe, great stuff. We got a little bit just training

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Speaker 2: tonight with the technical issues. Let's get you on again

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Speaker 2: before the playoffs.

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Speaker 8: Okay, sounds good, Bernie, good luck tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, it's Joe Gibbs. Follow him a rep. That's by

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Speaker 2: the way, we are twenty minutes away from the midnight

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Speaker 2: I've got two topics tonight that you generate a lot

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Speaker 2: of firepower, really looking forward to with the people have

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Speaker 2: to say about those. We'll set those up in just

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Speaker 2: up our topics for the midnight out. From where I sit,

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Speaker 2: it's twelve midnight in Las Vegas. Literally perhaps the same

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Speaker 2: for you and perhaps figuratively as well. On Bernie Prattle,

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Speaker 2: we are coming to your line from the Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio studios here in Las Vegas. Keep it lock and

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Speaker 2: listening to the Bernie Frattle Show.

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Speaker 1: On don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: All right, back in the Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: As they say in the business, we had some technical difficulties.

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Speaker 2: Thanks to my crew, we fought through it, Brandon and Mark,

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Speaker 2: and we are on. I'm fired up for a big

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Speaker 2: midnight hour tonight. What's always big thanks to the callers

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Speaker 2: eight seven seven nine nine six six three six nine. Look,

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Speaker 2: we have a situation. We have this little thing called analytics,

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Speaker 2: all right. And I'm one of those people that I

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Speaker 2: think analytics are a guideline, not an inflexible anchor. But

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Speaker 2: if there's one thing I'm sick of, it's coaches leaving

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Speaker 2: points on the board because they think they're cute. And

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Speaker 2: then he announce says, well, yeah, the book says, well,

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Speaker 2: the game's not played by a book, all right. I

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Speaker 2: covered the lines for ten years in these three things.

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Speaker 2: I know one the first points of the game of

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Speaker 2: the hardest. So you may drive down the field and

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Speaker 2: it's fourth and one from the four, and you say, well,

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Speaker 2: the book says go for it. But if you don't

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Speaker 2: get that, it changes the dynamic of the game. The

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Speaker 2: many you put points on the board, things start to happen.

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Speaker 2: So a field goal is better than nothing, all right.

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Speaker 2: And I would also say that you're far better off

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Speaker 2: going for a field goal if you can make it

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Speaker 2: a one score game or you can tie a game.

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Speaker 3: Where am I going with this? I want to hear

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Speaker 3: from the folks eight.

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Speaker 2: Seven, seven, nine ninety six six three six y nine.

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Speaker 2: Do you like analytics? Do you hate analytics? Are you

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Speaker 2: somewhere in the middle again? For me, it's a guideline,

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Speaker 2: not an NFL about an inflexible anker. Here's why the

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Speaker 2: stats alone. First of all, analytics tell you what happened yesterday,

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Speaker 2: not what's going to happen tomorrow. And they lack subtext,

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Speaker 2: they lack context. They don't capture the human element, the

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Speaker 2: fluidity of a game, the dynamic nature of a specific game,

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Speaker 2: how things are going, the ebb and flow of the weather,

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Speaker 2: the specific context of how individual teams are performing that

647
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Speaker 2: day certain situations. So the data is frankly incomplete there's

648
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Speaker 2: too many variables. These analytics often rely on historical data

649
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 2: of stuff maybe played over a thousand times, but it

650
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 2: doesn't say if you're starting running back is hurt or limping,

651
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 2: or they're snow on the ground or.

652
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 3: The winds blowing.

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Speaker 2: They use all this league wide data that may have

654
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Speaker 2: nothing to do with the specific context of the game

655
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 2: that's being played that day, things like weather conditions in

656
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 2: game injuries, player fatigue, momentum, team chemistry. Now, critics all

657
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 2: argue that many crucial factors that influence outcomes frankly cannot,

658
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 2: will not, and are not typically reliably measured by simple

659
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 2: data model data models, I like the human element. There's

660
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 2: a significant argument that you know and I know no

661
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 2: data can measure in tangible qualities like a player's mental toughness,

662
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 2: it's hard, it's leadership, their competitive drives, how they play

663
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 2: in the clutch, how they handle pressure.

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Speaker 3: Coaches often rely on their.

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Speaker 2: Intuition and feel for the game, developed over observation years

666
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 2: of experience to make real time decisions on the fly

667
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 2: and heat of battle that data alone can't do for you.

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Speaker 3: There's a general lack of specificity.

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Speaker 2: Analytics like the have a success rate for fourth down

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Speaker 2: conversions across the entire NFL that may have no relevance

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00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 2: to a specific team's unique strengths and weaknesses on the

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00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 2: game they're playing that particular day. For let's say, let's

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Speaker 2: say a team has a dominant defensive player and he's

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Speaker 2: in a certain position on the field and a certain

675
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 2: personnel grouping and a certain alignment, and it might be

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Speaker 2: unwise to run the ball on that side, even though

677
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 2: the analytics say all the book says, go for it, right.

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00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 2: I know this kind of overreliance on data, I think

679
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 2: not only pigeonholes players, teams, coaches.

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Speaker 3: I think it.

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00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 2: I think it degrades the quality of the game unless

682
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 2: it makes it a less entertaining game. There's there's also

683
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,760
Speaker 2: a bit of a disconnect between all the data nerds,

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00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 2: many of who never wore a jock, and traditional coaching

685
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 2: staffs who will rely on their jobs are on the

686
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Speaker 2: line to completely trust this complex statistical finding that's presented

687
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 2: to them. So you just can't relegate to everything to

688
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 2: what the books is. I know analytics driven decisions can

689
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 2: generate major controversies. I was just in Michigan last week,

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Speaker 2: and I love Dan Campbell he's under the gun. He's

691
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 2: not on the hot seat, trust me, don't even think

692
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 2: about that. But he's under the gun for his stubbornness

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Speaker 2: on fourth down situations where it's cost him. And there

694
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 2: was one coach who's on this way to the playoffs.

695
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 2: I've saved this for four weeks. I'm not going to

696
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 2: mention the team of the name who three times in

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00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 2: the first half passed up field goals to go forward

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00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 2: on fourth down and their chip shot field goals likely

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00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 2: would have been made, and they found themselves leading by

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Speaker 2: two with time running out and the opponent kicking a

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00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 2: field goal that could have beat him. And if they

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00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 2: missed the field goal. Now, had they just had that

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Speaker 2: particular coach in that team settled for those field goals,

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00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 2: that would have been likely nine additional points they left

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Speaker 2: on the board, then you find yourself changing your chasing points.

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Speaker 3: So I want to talk about analytics.

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Speaker 2: Do you like him? Do you hate him?

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Speaker 3: You know where I stand? Number two, this popped into

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Speaker 3: my mind. We got to run with it.

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Speaker 2: Ole Miss has a good football team, and I think

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Speaker 2: they're gonna quit themselves well in the playoffs. I don't

712
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 2: think they're gonna win it. But they could, but I

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00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 2: don't think they will. What the hell do you do

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Speaker 2: if Ole miss wins the Natty? Does Lane Kiffin as

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00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 2: part of his resume? Is he credited with a Natty?

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Speaker 2: He put the team together, coached him in the regular season,

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Speaker 2: but he wasn't there to finish the job. Do you

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00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 2: give Lane Kiffin credit for a Natty? So analytics, I

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Speaker 2: want to get your thoughts, inflexible anchor Guideline, hate them?

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Speaker 2: Like them?

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Speaker 3: Have they hurt your team?

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Speaker 2: Secondly, Lane Kiffin, if miss ole Miss wins the National Championship,

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Speaker 2: does he get the Natty? Eight seven seven nine nine

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Speaker 2: six six three sixty nine eight seven seven ninety nine

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Speaker 2: on Fox Really looking forward to hear from you, or

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00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 2: if you want a rent, you can bring in your

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00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 2: own topic, but make it good. You're listening to Bernie Friday.

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Speaker 2: It is the midnight out on Fox Sports.

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Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: That's right, you heard the man Bernie Fraddle Show. It

731
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Speaker 2: keeps rolling right along. My name is Bernie Fraddle. We're

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Speaker 2: coming to line from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio studios.

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Speaker 2: Take you up to three am Pacific, six am Eastern,

734
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 2: just getting rocking and rolling So we've got a couple

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Speaker 2: of good topics tonight for the midnight hour. Analytics? Are

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Speaker 2: they a guideline or an inflexible anchor? I gave you

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Speaker 2: all my reasons why I am very middling about them.

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Speaker 2: The data fat I think it fails to capture the

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00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 2: full scope of the game, the human element. The game

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00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 2: is played by people, there's a certain in game context

741
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 2: to it at lacks specificity, and there's data limitations that

742
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 2: don't take into account a.

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Speaker 3: Lot of things.

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Speaker 2: Remember this is data gather over the years, and it's

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Speaker 2: supposed to be applied what's happening in that minute without

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00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 2: the same context. So I want your thoughts on analytics. Secondly,

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Speaker 2: what in the world do you do if Mississippi wins

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Speaker 2: the national championship? Do you give Lane Kiffin credit? Does

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00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 2: he now have on his resume a national championship? He

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Speaker 2: recruited the team, coached the team, got him to the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: but didn't finish the job. How do you handle it?

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Speaker 2: It's time to midnight hour? All right, let's let this

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Speaker 2: can we got to Massachusetts. Jim, welcome in, buddy. We

754
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:24,720
Speaker 2: missed you last week.

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Speaker 4: Hey, what's going on?

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Speaker 10: Bernie?

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Speaker 4: I was on vacation. Hey about analytics, About analytics, I

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Speaker 4: agree with everything you say, but I'm with Childs Bockley

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00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 4: on analytics. Child said, on analytics, these are people that

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00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 4: never played the game and never got the girl in

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Speaker 4: high school. And he's absolutely right. He's absolutely right. It's

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Speaker 4: the human element. There's all sorts of other things that

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00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 4: come into play, and they think they just can look

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00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 4: at numbers on a computer print out and think that's

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Speaker 4: gonna happen. And the reason you can look back pick

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00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 4: a sport, any sport, all the busts, all the draft

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00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 4: bus you know that was all by analytics. You think

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00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 4: they just go out and make picks. They of course

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00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 4: they go over all that stuff, but they always leave

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00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 4: out that one, that one side of it.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 4: That's the way it is with analytics.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a there's there's an over reliance on analytics,

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Speaker 2: and I don't like it anymore. And it takes away

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00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 2: the human the human elements, intangible factors like player psychology, momentum,

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00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 2: clutch factor, all those things.

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Speaker 3: Jim, what is Mississippi? When's a natty?

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Speaker 2: Does Lane Kiffin get to put out on his resume?

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Speaker 4: And I don't know about that. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 4: you know the NCAA with all these the rules that

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Speaker 4: they set that up where he went for the ninety

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Speaker 4: one ninety one million dollars was terrible turned down ninety

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Speaker 4: one million dollars.

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Speaker 3: Well, the old missus matching it. U.

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Speaker 4: This is the thing that shocked me is that he's

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Speaker 4: going to an in conference rival, not only in the conference,

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00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 4: but the you know, their rivals, you know. And I

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00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 4: just you know, he's just chasing the money and figure,

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00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 4: you know, the all of who blow with that, and

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00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 4: you know that's the way America is set up for

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00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 4: is you know, to chase the Greenbacks. And that's the

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00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 4: way it is. And you know, I don't know what

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Speaker 4: you're going to do about it, but you know I.

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Speaker 2: Think I say no, I say, you don't, I say not, no,

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Speaker 2: hell no. He does not get credit for a national

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Speaker 2: championship because he quit half mile off shore. So that's

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Speaker 2: my take. You got some quickly. He got the last word.

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Speaker 4: Hey, yeah, one last thing, Bernnie. I'm going off to chat. Hey,

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Speaker 4: what happened to your Lakers against the Celtics. They lost

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Speaker 4: by twenty six but out paid him.

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Speaker 2: I was my friend that they were my Lakers. I can,

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00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 2: I can write, I can surely don't call me. Surely

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00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 2: I will assure you they are not my Lakers at

804
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 2: one time, but not anymore, not this version.

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Speaker 3: Good good luck. That was a good game, all right, right, Jim.

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Speaker 3: Good to hear from you.

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Speaker 2: Solomon in Los Angeles, Welcome into the Bernie Fraderishi, how

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Speaker 2: are you hey, I'm.

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Speaker 11: Good, Bunnie, it's been a while.

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00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,240
Speaker 2: Then you hear your voice. Good back at you.

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Speaker 12: Thanks man. A couple of things, Yeah, answering your questions

812
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 12: for the evening.

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Speaker 9: Analytics, I could live without them.

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Speaker 12: You know, I'm seventy six years old. I've seen a

815
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 12: lot of sports and listened to a lot of sports

816
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 12: in my times, and it existed without analytics, and it

817
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 12: was just fine. And the two examples I thoughtled Dave Roberts,

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Speaker 12: NIGGI Bojas you want to tell me that was that?

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Speaker 2: There you go, well, okay, so you know it's not

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Speaker 2: even an interesting Solomon. Remember back in the day, there

821
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Speaker 2: was a guy like Girl Weaver. He would beat John

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00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 2: Lowenstein against left handers. He was a left handed hitter.

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Speaker 2: They used to do a thing back in the day, solemnly,

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Speaker 2: not just sure. You remember they called it playing the percentages,

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Speaker 2: But nothing can beat the gut feel of a human

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Speaker 2: being with experience who's right there in the moment, in

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Speaker 2: the context of that game.

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Speaker 3: Continue on.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, no exactly, you're the first stealing my thunder.

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Speaker 9: There's a you half of the game.

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Speaker 12: You know, some thing's passed the those tests. You can

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00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,720
Speaker 12: see what your guys what's going on. And Dave Robbers

833
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 12: was the perfect example of going with his gut because

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Speaker 12: he had a feeling.

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Speaker 11: He knows his.

836
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Speaker 12: Players, and he knew Miggy and you know, the.

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Speaker 9: Best is history.

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Speaker 12: Regarding Lane Kiffin, I wouldn't let the dude come within

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Speaker 12: one hundred miles of that Sophie, to be honest, you

840
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 12: know what I'm like.

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Speaker 4: You know, yeah, you don't get that pether in Here's cap.

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00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 2: You know you crapped out, you left, sorry, see you.

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Speaker 12: Buddy, you don't get that on your resume.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you, Solomon. Good to hear from you again.

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Speaker 2: You take care and joy the rest of your weekend. Kyle,

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00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 2: my man from here in Las Vegas where we sometimes

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Speaker 2: have internet issues.

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Speaker 13: You got the floor, well you got you got that

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Speaker 13: old cool dial up stuff aol.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you.

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Speaker 2: Know usually my old Commodore sixty four works just fine,

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Speaker 2: but tonight it took a crap.

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Speaker 13: Well, you gotta tell him, you got to hang up

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Speaker 13: the phone before you start up the internet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, wait, walk.

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Speaker 2: Any who?

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Speaker 13: Any who, Let's let's get right to the meat and

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Speaker 13: potatoes and everything. So analytics, if we're going by analytics,

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Speaker 13: just look at what the QBR has done to the

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Speaker 13: game of football. For analytics, you got I've seen it

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Speaker 13: half ago, maybe two weeks ago, where you had Door

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Speaker 13: Sanders had the lowest QBR rating out of all the

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Speaker 13: starting quarterbacks of the week that he's that he first started,

864
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 13: where he won eleven of twenty and for some odd reason,

865
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 13: he had an eight point nine QBR rating. So analytics

866
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 13: kick that, kick that to the curb wherever it needs

867
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 13: to be. Let's not even get into that. I don't

868
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 13: even want to talk about lame Kiffin. He deserves nothing. Yeah,

869
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 13: he deserves nothing. And lastly, Bernie, I know you ain't

870
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 13: touched on it, but I heard a little bit about it.

871
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 13: But the Bears got a good chance to win tomorrow.

872
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,919
Speaker 13: I mean, if analytics say anything, we got a great

873
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 13: chance to beat the Packers tomorrow.

874
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,399
Speaker 2: It's going to be it's going to be Thanks Scott,

875
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 2: appreciate it. Yeah, it's going to be a Marquee game. Obviously,

876
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 2: a conference matchup in lambeau Field. Some Chicago money's coming

877
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 2: in because they just keep writing this high wire act

878
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 2: and I keep waiting.

879
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 3: Four ten, We'll see.

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Speaker 11: Uh.

881
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Speaker 2: Le June, I hope I'm pronouncing it right. You can

882
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 2: correct me if I'm wrong. Le June in Los Angeles.

883
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Speaker 3: Welcome in.

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Speaker 14: It's a I'm sorry, La June.

885
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Speaker 2: Not June. I apologize. So, La ju did this your

886
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 2: first time calling the show? Yes, sir, well, welcome in.

887
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Speaker 2: Don't be a stranger. You got the floor. Let her it.

888
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Speaker 15: Okay.

889
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 14: Well, here's my thing about analytics. I mean, it's a

890
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 14: good tool when you're trying to find players. But the

891
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 14: problem is, wasn't if it's somebody like Fernando Tatis that

892
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,760
Speaker 14: has all the you know, numbers, but people just hated

893
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 14: his guts.

894
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 2: You know, the players don't like him.

895
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 14: They're not kind of jell as the team. You know,

896
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 14: it's the team. It's a team sport. That's why it's Dodgers.

897
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 14: I think they kind of geld this year in the

898
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 14: last two years. But the fact of the matter is

899
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 14: that they're factions within the team and you know they

900
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 14: hate each other, then it's not gonna work. And that's

901
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 14: for Lane Kiffin. You know, he's a he just he's

902
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 14: a quitter. I never liked him as a you know,

903
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 14: as a coach, and maybe he deserves like one star.

904
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 14: But let's be honest, man, Ole, this isn't gonna win

905
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 14: national championships. So I won't even worry about that conversation

906
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:22,760
Speaker 14: right now.

907
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 2: Well, I haven't agreement with you, it's just a talking point.

908
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 2: I don't think they're going to win it either. And

909
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 2: Lane Kiff, and I think now is the owner of

910
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 2: the five messiest departures in all of sports. Not I

911
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 2: gave the chronology last week toward the end of my

912
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 2: show from from the Raiders to Tennessee to usc and

913
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 2: every one of them was a twenty car pile up.

914
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 2: You got the last word, La June.

915
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 14: Yeah, man, no, everything's good. But uh thanks thanks for

916
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 14: letting me be on your show. And that's about it.

917
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 2: All right, Well this we do this every Saturday night

918
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 2: at twelve am or yeah, twelve midnight Pacific time. Don't

919
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 2: be a stranger, spox weed my man, Well, we got

920
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:04,720
Speaker 2: to start with the usual.

921
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 3: What is your livation tonight?

922
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 16: Well, since it's the holidays, I'm having eagle rare bourbon

923
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 16: with eggnogs.

924
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 2: Man, you don't get cheated, you don't get.

925
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 4: No you know it.

926
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 16: It's good enough to drink straight, But man, is it

927
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 16: good in some ignogic little nut bag.

928
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 2: You get yourself a drink right there.

929
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 16: Yeah, you're killing two births. You're multitasking, that's true. I

930
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 16: keep the weight up, you know, I mean training.

931
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 2: All right, get that fight waight up? Continue on, my friend.

932
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 2: You know where we're going tonight. Yeah. Yeah.

933
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Speaker 16: Analytics. Like like last man said, he stole my line.

934
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 16: Analytics is a tool. But any coach that relies only

935
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:47,720
Speaker 16: on analytics is a tool.

936
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:53,280
Speaker 2: So my line is, it's it's it's it's a guideline,

937
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 2: not an inflexible anchor. No, not at all. And then

938
00:48:58,080 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 2: inangibles go ahead.

939
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 16: And a couple of things that I that I would

940
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 16: say are are very true about analytics. If you're depending

941
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 16: on George Pickens to get you over the line in

942
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 16: the fourth and one kick the field goal, yeah.

943
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:17,720
Speaker 2: It me How coaches continually leave points on the board. Yeah,

944
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:19,439
Speaker 2: if you know, for ten years I did the Lions

945
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 2: pre and post game show with a team, and we

946
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 2: used to say the first points are the hardest.

947
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 3: So I got no problem.

948
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,399
Speaker 2: The coach goes down the field, you're stuck on the three. Yeah.

949
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 2: I know, you don't bring field goals to a touchdown fight,

950
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 2: but reas better than zero and when you get those

951
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 2: first points, things seem to flow. All right, what do

952
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 2: you think about Lane Kiffin? Did you deserve some hardware

953
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 2: if if somehow Ole Miss wins it.

954
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 16: Well, one more thing about analytics want I wanted to say,

955
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 16: and that is is that coaches that have played like

956
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 16: you said, they're the only ones that get to have

957
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 16: a magic eight jock on this thing. So they get

958
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 16: they get to figure that one out and they've got

959
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 16: their magic eight jock twice in the radio, and I

960
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 16: guess that's all I get on that one. But Lane Kiffin,

961
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 16: he gave it up. I don't have a problem with

962
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 16: him going for the money. I don't like him as

963
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 16: as his career and he left people in the dust

964
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 16: and he doesn't get squat and.

965
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 2: That's that's the way it goes.

966
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 16: Like I said, you know, they should write the trophy,

967
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 16: you know, if they win, you know, these people went

968
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 16: except for Lane Kiffin. And the last thing I want

969
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 16: to say is on a different, slightly different talking is way,

970
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 16: the hell to go Indiana. I didn't think. I didn't

971
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 16: think they were going to get done. It was a

972
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 16: defensive trench battle, no score in the fourth quarter. I

973
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 16: couldn't believe what I was watching, and my wife made

974
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:46,879
Speaker 16: a tremendous homemade pizza that.

975
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 2: I had to watch eat in front of the TV.

976
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 2: Your triple multitasking, good stuff. As always, Fox, we appreciate you. Man.

977
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 2: Rest easy out there. Yeah, look after the organ game,

978
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 2: everything changed for me. The test matters. I trust my

979
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,280
Speaker 2: eyes and me a lot. They were violent on defense

980
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 2: against Oregan. They set the edges, they pressured the backfield.

981
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 2: They had tackles for loss. They showed me they had

982
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 2: two NFL wide receivers, a couple of NFL corners, and

983
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 2: a quarterback who should win the Heisman Trophy. Kenny and Alabama,

984
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 2: welcome back in.

985
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 11: How are you, hey, How you doing? Thanks for taking

986
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 11: a call and keep back. Oh yeah, analytics hate them

987
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 11: Like you know, you're not controlling robots out there and nothing.

988
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 11: It's a human element, like you said, It's not like

989
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 11: you're playing the field game or something. I just got going.

990
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 11: You're good, Like you said. As far as Lane kissing

991
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 11: soon he left old Miss, you know he should be

992
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 11: worrying about LSU winning the Birmingham Bowl or.

993
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 9: The Music City Bowl.

994
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 11: And I want to add one more thing. I think

995
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 11: because I know the college football playoffs probably going to

996
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 11: spand I think they should have like the Power of

997
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 11: four or.

998
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 17: Power five, whoever has their own playoff bracket, and whoever

999
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 17: win out of the playoff, you know, that champion take

1000
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 17: on like the Group of five or six champion in

1001
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,240
Speaker 17: their own playoff bracket.

1002
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 11: Kind of like the NFL move. You have the NFC

1003
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 11: and AFC and they play and see who's the real

1004
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 11: college football champion.

1005
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:23,720
Speaker 3: You know, that's really not a bad idea.

1006
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 2: We have to do something so that if you are

1007
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 2: playing college football and you are in a codified conference,

1008
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 2: what other sport do you have where you can play

1009
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 2: the entire season going defeate and have no chance at

1010
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 2: the national championship? Only stupid college football. They're trying to

1011
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,359
Speaker 2: fix it, and they're doing a lows your job. That

1012
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 2: is not a bad idea, Kenny. I appreciate you man. Thanks, Thanks, thanks,

1013
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 2: thanks for checking in. We're off and running. Greg and Texas,

1014
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 2: Christen Boston, Jeff and Denver and Martin from Orange, California. Guys,

1015
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 2: hayk Tech, We're gonna get to all of you. Eight

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Speaker 2: seven seven ninety nine six six three six nine. We're

1017
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 2: talking about analytics. Your thoughts. I gave a long oratory

1018
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 2: about the downside. I think it's a guideline, not an

1019
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 2: inflexible anchor. And Lane Kiffin, what do you do if

1020
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 2: Mississippi wins? Do we dare allow his name to be

1021
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 2: on the trophy? By the way, for the best pregame

1022
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:15,640
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1023
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:19,680
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1025
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1030
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1031
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1032
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:42,920
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1033
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1034
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1037
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,680
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1038
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 2: The minute, hours rolling right along. Calls have been great.

1039
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 2: We continue back out to the phones. Greg in Texas,

1040
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 2: you are up next. Thanks for hanging on, buddy, Hey,

1041
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 2: thank you for a field in my call.

1042
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:23,760
Speaker 10: Sir, first of all, about the diagnostics and all that stuff,

1043
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:31,800
Speaker 10: serving suggestions, that's all serving suggestions. You know, there's there's nothing.

1044
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 2: There there in your radio, donat. I can hear you,

1045
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 2: but I'm hearing your radio in the background. Maybe you

1046
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:40,879
Speaker 2: could pop that down a bit.

1047
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 10: No, no, my fat ears hit the phone.

1048
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 3: But yeah, you're listen. You're right, it's a suggestion.

1049
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 2: I they've gone too far, all right, They used very

1050
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 2: They don't capture all the intangibles or the context of

1051
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 2: what's going on in the game that day.

1052
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 3: Continue on, and the same.

1053
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 18: Thing is that other teams, you know, they don't thing

1054
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,760
Speaker 18: the fact are in their ability to handle those things,

1055
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,360
Speaker 18: you know, handle the diagnostics.

1056
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 3: Yes, so.

1057
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 10: It's just it's just a serving suggestion and to me,

1058
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 10: it's just a gambling thing. But I'll leave that alone.

1059
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 10: I'm gonna give props to I.

1060
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 2: You absolutely big time props to IU.

1061
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,879
Speaker 10: Props I you, we know, for them doing it. As

1062
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 10: far as Laye Kiffin, please let him kick rocks, it's.

1063
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 2: Kind of popped into my mind. He's such a load

1064
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 2: in the shorts. You'll probably ask for a trophy if

1065
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 2: they win it.

1066
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 18: Well, well, you know, well he wasn't the one that

1067
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 18: left by choice.

1068
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 2: Quote quote yeah right.

1069
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 10: They don't need these coaches do not need to be

1070
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:59,760
Speaker 10: accepting job interviews, and in the end of the season

1071
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 10: that just needs to stop.

1072
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 2: Well the system is completely for clemed. That's that's all

1073
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 2: there is to it. But the timing of this. And

1074
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,320
Speaker 2: he's had five of these now, thanks for checking in, Greg,

1075
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 2: appreciate it. He's had five of these messy departures. And

1076
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Speaker 2: last week I gave her chronology. I mean, Al Davis

1077
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 2: called him a professional liar. Right, They weren't happy in

1078
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 2: Tennessee at USC left him on the tarmac, right on

1079
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 2: on the line. Christian Boston, welcome in, Bernie Fradleshaw.

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00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 19: How are you, hey, Bernie? Thank you for taking my call.

1081
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:32,479
Speaker 2: You bet?

1082
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 19: Yeah, Lane Kiffin, he's just a jackwagon. I mean, I mean,

1083
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 19: how much money is money? I mean, if you can't

1084
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 19: live within your means and you need that much more money,

1085
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 19: I mean whatever, I don't really care. People. I mean,

1086
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 19: I'm from Boston were pro sports town people. The only

1087
00:56:56,120 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 19: thing that comes out of our product of college football

1088
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 19: was offensive lineman from BC and that's pretty much it.

1089
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 19: Maybe a quarterback or two. But anyways, I wanted to

1090
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 19: bring up a question for you, Drake May okay y.

1091
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 19: He reminds me a lot of Joe Montana and now

1092
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 19: I don't want to put him in the same class

1093
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 19: yet obviously because he's just starting. But at the same time,

1094
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 19: he's just like, you know, not that face is this kid?

1095
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

1096
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 19: He throws, he throws. He throws a soft, deep ball,

1097
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 19: really good, a very catchable ball, like Joe did. Tom

1098
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 19: Brady when he first started, couldn't not throw a ball

1099
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 19: that was easily catchable.

1100
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I covered Brady at Michigan. He was

1101
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 2: twenty five as a starter. But we don't talk about great.

1102
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 2: Why why you brought it up, Chris. Look, he's your

1103
00:57:55,760 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 2: prototypical quarterback in terms of size. He's got a eat

1104
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 2: arm talent, he's got way above average mobility. He's a

1105
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 2: dual threat playmaker. But his best aspect to me is

1106
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 2: his ability to see the field and process. Quarterbacks a

1107
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 2: position you play with your eyes. He's showing a great

1108
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:17,919
Speaker 2: ability to make decisions under pressure. He doesn't play hero ball,

1109
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 2: although he does sometimes push your limits. But he's so

1110
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 2: talented at getting off schedule while while maneuvering through the

1111
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 2: pocket that he's kind of a unicorn right now.

1112
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 19: He can get to his third progression, and that's not

1113
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 19: an easy thing to do.

1114
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 2: That's because he has an understanding of coverages and the

1115
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 2: defenses he's reading. Chris, I appreciate you checking in. We

1116
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 2: got so many calls. I want to make sure we

1117
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 2: get to everybody. Please, don't be a stranger. Thanks a lot,

1118
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 2: Jeff and Denver.

1119
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 3: Welcome back.

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Speaker 2: How are you, Bernie?

1121
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:48,439
Speaker 3: How's it going good man?

1122
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 20: Hey to the lane kipping thing, Hell no, that's the

1123
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 20: most assonant thing ever. You quit, You left your kids.

1124
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 20: You told him to stick with them, and who left

1125
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 20: you did?

1126
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 3: I don't know if you saw that lame statement he

1127
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 3: made as well.

1128
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 2: Bill Kower had had out comments and pretty scathing comments

1129
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 2: this week, but they were just absolutely spot on about

1130
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 2: the disgraceful behavior Layne Kiff.

1131
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 20: That guy has the most unethical piece of you know

1132
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 20: what out there. I mean I saw the interview they

1133
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 20: had him out there at the airport or something, and

1134
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 20: he dodged every question. He wouldn't even answer her. He

1135
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 20: was like, yeah, oh well yeah, so okay whatever.

1136
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, right now he's got all the credibility of a

1137
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 2: dermatologist with acney. I mean, I was just curious if

1138
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 2: anybody out there would take up a case. Well, oh,

1139
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 2: he built the team he did. All right, let's move

1140
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 2: off there. Give me your thoughts on analytics, inflexible, ankor

1141
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 2: guideline stupid more of a guideline.

1142
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 20: I mean, if you're like hit or minute on should

1143
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 20: I shouldn't I you could take a look at it,

1144
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 20: but it's not a way to go. I mean, you

1145
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 20: gotta have know your players, know the situation, that stuff.

1146
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 2: But it's good.

1147
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 20: Knowledge to help you make a decision.

1148
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 2: But it's not. But I feel they've gone too far

1149
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 2: with it. I feel it's they've become obstinate with analytics,

1150
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 2: and they become sort of this automatic decision regardless, and

1151
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 2: I don't like it.

1152
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 20: I mean, if it's in a decent part of the

1153
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 20: field football wise, if you can't gain one yard on

1154
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 20: a play, then you probably shouldn't.

1155
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 2: Be you know, you should always be able to least.

1156
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 20: Gain one yard if it comes down to that.

1157
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 8: It's depending on the.

1158
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 2: Placement in the field. You should be gained one yard.

1159
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:39,919
Speaker 20: But this fourtune five, that's a different thing.

1160
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 3: But I don't know what was the other topic well

1161
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 3: that you got to do.

1162
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 2: It was just analytics, you lid Kiff, and I appreciate

1163
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 2: you checking in, Jeff, don't be a stranger man. Thanks again.

1164
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 2: Martin in Orange, California. Your thoughts tonight?

1165
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 21: Hey Bernie, how you doing tonight?

1166
01:00:57,800 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 3: Good?

1167
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 2: Thank you, Lee Kiffin.

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01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 21: No, he doesn't deserve a trophy if they win a

1169
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 21: national title.

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01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:07,439
Speaker 15: But no, that's not gonna happen either.

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01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 21: Mississippi will not be winning a national title.

1172
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 22: Ninety one million dollars.

1173
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 21: And I know Mississippi said they would match it, but

1174
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 21: none of us, none of our listeners would walk away

1175
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 21: from that type of money to switch it.

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01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 2: But but say Martin, he was off Ole miss was

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01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 2: matching it.

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01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 21: I totally understand, but I totally understand that verning and

1179
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 21: what I'm saying is to me, I mean, and this

1180
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 21: is mean because I live in California, LSU, Mississippi.

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01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 15: Louisiana, Mississippi. Same thing. Let me tell you what they

1182
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 15: rank hyacaid low life expectancy, obesity, child is immortality. They

1183
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 15: ranked lowis an education and economy. You know, boosters from Mississippi,

1184
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 15: the booster from LSU. Why don't you take that ninety

1185
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 15: million million and how about your state? How about your

1186
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 15: state become a better state instead of painting overblown coach ninety.

1187
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 2: Million welcome out.

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01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 3: You just just at the record streak. I like it, Martin.

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Speaker 3: That's it's all coming from private money. It's it's all.

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01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 3: It's all private money.

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01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 22: Okay, private money should be funding the state.

1192
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 15: That's what I'm saying.

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01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 22: They've got the money to get to a coach.

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Speaker 7: Give me your state.

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Speaker 15: They live in the state, Bernie, so let me get

1196
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 15: to analytics. I agree with you that they're a.

1197
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 22: Youthful tool, that they've.

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01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 15: Overtook them a sport, and I don't like that. I

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Speaker 15: just want to say one thing, if it weren't. If

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Speaker 15: it wasn't for like people would listen to analytics.

1201
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 22: We would have missed one of the biggest moments in

1202
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 22: AOTS history, prevalent manager Lou Brown knowing that apartment owns

1203
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 22: wild may One.

1204
01:02:56,600 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 2: There we go, a little man.

1205
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 22: You got it tonight, baby, I don't tell what you

1206
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 22: needs me three years to live the Alps.

1207
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 15: I love you, Bernie, have a good name.

1208
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:13,920
Speaker 2: Hey, don't forget to mentioned Pedro Serrano right beating the

1209
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 2: evil spirits out of his bat. Good stuff as always.

1210
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 2: It's that's why I love them. In that hour, man,

1211
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 2: we get a disparate, disparate arrange, an amalgam of opinions,

1212
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 2: as it were. David Phoenix, Welcome in, Dave. How are

1213
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:31,439
Speaker 2: you well?

1214
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 23: Hello, Bernie. If you'll allow me, I'm going to skip

1215
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 23: over Lane Kiffin.

1216
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 3: Did you go ready to head?

1217
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 2: My friend, I'm going to go.

1218
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 23: Right to the college Football Playoff Committee and what they're

1219
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 23: going to do here in a few hours.

1220
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 3: Go right ahead, Joe. I'm going to talk about that

1221
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 3: later as well.

1222
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1223
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 23: So, in my opinion, first of all, Vanderbilt and Utah

1224
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 23: are out, and I think we know there are seven

1225
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 23: at large bids and one of them obviously goes to

1226
01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:01,479
Speaker 23: Ohio State. Now, when you get the that there's six

1227
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:04,919
Speaker 23: more bids, and there's nine teams that.

1228
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:06,920
Speaker 2: Are all fairly equal.

1229
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 23: In terms of their resumes. In my opinion, you could

1230
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 23: almost include any six of those nine, and you could

1231
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:17,920
Speaker 23: exclude any three of those nine. And there are arguments

1232
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 23: four and against each. But here's what I'm going to say, Bernie.

1233
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 23: The number one thing we have to stop saying is, hey,

1234
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 23: we beat this team back when they were ranked.

1235
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 2: Well, that doesn't matter.

1236
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 23: I know Penn State was ranked way back in South

1237
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 23: Carolina and Missouri and LSU, and those teams all lost

1238
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 23: at least four or five or six games.

1239
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 2: You don't get great credit for beating those teams.

1240
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 23: So I actually think Texas has a much better resume

1241
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 23: than anybody gives them a credit for.

1242
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 2: BYU. Maybe that's the problem.

1243
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 3: There's never.

1244
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 2: You're right.

1245
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 23: So I agree that Texas will not get in.

1246
01:04:58,400 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 4: BYU will not get in.

1247
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 23: It's going to come down to three teams for two spots.

1248
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 23: You've got Alabama Notre Dame in Miami, and the question

1249
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 23: is which two get in and who gets left out?

1250
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 23: And the more I look at it, I really think

1251
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 23: Alabama should be the one that gets left out, and

1252
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 23: I don't want to penalize them for losing a conference

1253
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 23: title game, but I look back at their loss to

1254
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 23: Florida State, which is about the worst loss than any

1255
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 23: of these teams have had, and they just have not

1256
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 23: played well even in some of their wins. So looking

1257
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 23: at everything, I know it's a close call, but I'm

1258
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 23: going to put Notre Dame in Miami both in and

1259
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 23: leave out Alabama.

1260
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 2: Hey, real quickly, Dave, We're going to go off the

1261
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 2: grid for a second because this is gonna sturt topic.

1262
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 2: So I was in Michigan last week with my wife.

1263
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 2: I just go back Thursday. Talked a lot of my

1264
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 2: own cronies over at ninety seven to one. Not a

1265
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 2: lot of people are happy with sher own more hate

1266
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 2: to break it to you. And the other thing too,

1267
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 2: is you paid twelve minute million for a quarterback who

1268
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 2: was three or five at halftime in the Ohio State game.

1269
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 2: Misis has two quarterbacks, Aiden Charles and the other kids

1270
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 2: who's named too long. I can't pronounce if they both

1271
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 2: played half a season. Both threw for more touchdown passes

1272
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 2: than Bryce Underwood did for the entire season, so you're

1273
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 2: heading in a collision course and this may not look

1274
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:17,439
Speaker 2: good next year.

1275
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 23: Here's the thing, also, Bernie, look at this way. Bryce

1276
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 23: Underwin went over one whole month without throwing a touchdown

1277
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 23: pass until he finally got to play Maryland.

1278
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 2: Again.

1279
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 23: Well, I don't know, but you also have to look

1280
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 23: at the fact they played one of the all time

1281
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 23: cupcake schedules this year, and amazing how bad their schedule

1282
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 23: within the Big Ten was, other than obviously playing Ohio.

1283
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 2: Well, that was the other point of contention my cronies made.

1284
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 2: He had three seat at your games, USC, Oklahoma, and

1285
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:51,959
Speaker 2: Ohio State and biffed them all. Yep, no doubt.

1286
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 23: And you look at the nine games that they won.

1287
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 23: It's a really really soft nine games. I guess the

1288
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 23: best team might be Washington, but Washington plays so much

1289
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 23: better at home and bad on the road. And that

1290
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 23: game was in ann Arbor. So is that your signature

1291
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 23: victory for the whole year? I guess is now next year,

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Speaker 23: in the year after.

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Speaker 2: They play really really tough schedules.

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Speaker 20: So I'm not that confident.

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Speaker 23: I'm not that confident that they're going to suddenly turn

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Speaker 23: it around and be able to make the playoffs for

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Speaker 23: the first time in the three years. Next yearly the

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Speaker 23: third year of the twelve team playoffs.

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Speaker 3: It's going to be a talking point.

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Speaker 2: You wait, Yeph, all right? Appreciated Dave Steve in Kansas City.

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Speaker 2: Always worth the wait, Steve, what do you got for

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Speaker 2: us tonight?

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Speaker 7: Hey, buddy, Congratulations to the Hoosiers and Kurt Signetti the

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01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 7: standalone Big Ten titles since nineteen forty five, that's for him.

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01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 7: It's pretty incredible. And then the new Kies the first

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01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 7: time since the eighty. I like to see the new,

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01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 7: new fresh blood in there. I too, believe the analytics

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01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 7: are getting out of control. Texas Tech was going for

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01:07:57,480 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 7: it in the middle of field on fourth and two

1310
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 7: and I thought there were nuts today, But that's that's

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Speaker 7: the analytics and.

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01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 2: Robot Ohio State on the five yard line. They could

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01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 2: have kicked the field goal tied, they didn't, and then

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01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 2: they end up missing the field goal later. You think

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01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 2: they'd like to have a field goal try back.

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01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:17,840
Speaker 7: And Lane Giffn's totally overrated and I kind of and

1317
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 7: I kind of wanted to agree with your last caller.

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01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:23,519
Speaker 7: We're about to get Alabama shoved down our throats. According

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01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 7: to the All State Playoff.

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Speaker 2: Predictor you think so because they've never had a three

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01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 2: lost team in there.

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01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:34,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, I know, I know they the playoffs. The percentages

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01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:38,639
Speaker 7: say that Alabama's going in. I don't believe Alabama failed

1324
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:41,920
Speaker 7: the eye test. They should not be going anywhere except

1325
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 7: to the Pop Parts Bowl. They are, they are not.

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01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 7: They're not better than than Miami. I don't get what

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01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 7: world you're living in. They're not better than Notre Dame

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01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 7: and they're not better than Miami. But they're going to

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01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 7: try and shove it down our throat tomorrow. So you guys, stay,

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01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:59,680
Speaker 7: stay away or stay you know, we can boycott the

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01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 7: playof offer something, but we don't need We don't need

1332
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Speaker 7: more Alabama.

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01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 2: We really don't be surprised if Notre Dame and Miami

1334
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 2: both get in to Land and James Madison both get

1335
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 2: in and Alabama does not, and then you know what

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01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:15,560
Speaker 2: they'll do, Steve, They'll be on their way to the

1337
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 2: Minute Bowl. It's a brand new bowl game. I'm starting

1338
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:18,919
Speaker 2: the minut Bowl.

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Speaker 7: From your lips to the football God's ears.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 2: I hope, I hope you're right. Take care all right,

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Speaker 2: Thanks a lot, buddy. We're going to be continuing on

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Speaker 2: with the Midnight Hour. Felipe and Southgate, Clayton and Tennessee

1344
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 2: will be joining us up next.

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Speaker 2: of your screen coming up to midnight hour continues. Keep

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Speaker 2: it locked, It's the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox.

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Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: All right? Back in the Bernie Fraddle Show Fox Sports Radio.

1358
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:15,559
Speaker 2: But another outstanding man that hour. Thanks to the great

1359
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 2: callers or thoughts, we yuck it up a little bit.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna wrap it up with two more callers here,

1361
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Speaker 2: uh give their final thoughts on the the analytics debate,

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Speaker 2: Inflexible anchor Guideline Good bad to be sick of them?

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Speaker 2: And Lane Kiffin. What if Mississippi were to win it all?

1364
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:39,959
Speaker 2: Because he deserves a name on the trophy. Felippe in Southgate,

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Speaker 2: Welcome into the Bernie Fraddle Show. How are you okay, Bernie?

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Speaker 10: How are you going?

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Speaker 3: Good man?

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Speaker 9: Okay? So, in regards to the analytics, I believe it's

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01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 9: a good total to a half, but you shouldn't usually

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01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 9: just as the overall factor in your coaching and your managing.

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Speaker 9: We've seen too many your inizations try to do this,

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Speaker 9: and I feel like none of them are you to

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01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 9: win a title. For example, Houston Rockets with Antony and Harden,

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01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 9: they would just go off of analytics. They wouldn't shoot

1375
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 9: any mid the ring jumpers and where does that get into.

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01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 13: They never got They never even got to the finals too.

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01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:18,719
Speaker 9: I feel the Dodgers when they first hired Dave Obis

1379
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 9: and they brought over Andrew Freeman, would just manage off

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01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 9: of analytics. Many times we would hear, oh, he's only

1381
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:27,799
Speaker 9: going to go five innings today, as just your starting pitchers,

1382
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 9: when you didn't even know how the game is going

1383
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 9: to go, you got to go off of the field

1384
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 9: of the game and understand, you know, what's the situation

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01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 9: you really like, For example, I feel like these last

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01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 9: two words here, Dave Bobbers is actually managing off of

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01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 9: his gut and what he's seen in the game as

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01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 9: the game is progressing, rather than having the plan already

1389
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 9: and playing saying okay, well he's not going to see

1390
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:52,760
Speaker 9: that the starting That's an.

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Speaker 2: Excellent point you just brought up about Dave Roberts. Data

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Speaker 2: analytics will never replace, ever the need for intuition and Roberts,

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01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:03,599
Speaker 2: who's established himself one of the best managers in the game.

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Speaker 2: He knows how to melt precision of data and the

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01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 2: wisdom of experience. Put it in two together over a

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Speaker 2: six month period. Continue on.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, so I mean overall, I mean that's just what

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Speaker 9: I feel. I feel you can use it to help you.

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Speaker 24: Especially in the regular season because you're going to play

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Speaker 24: a lot of bad teams, but come playoffs, you're just

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01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 24: going to play the best to the best, So you've

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01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 24: got to manage off a field. And in regards to

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01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:31,880
Speaker 24: Lane Kiffin, I mean, whether you like the guy or not,

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01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:34,560
Speaker 24: I mean, we have to admit that olden answer is

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01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:37,519
Speaker 24: in the position they're in today because he's the one

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Speaker 24: that got him there.

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Speaker 9: But whatever they do from here on out, that's how

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Speaker 9: the players and the coaches that are still there.

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Speaker 10: He cannot get.

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Speaker 9: Any credit for that, going cannot be on the trophy.

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Speaker 3: Right, good stuff, good call, appreciate it.

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01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:53,840
Speaker 2: Uh Felipe, don't be Stranger at midnight hour or Bernie

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Speaker 2: Fradle show. We wrap it up with Clayton and Tennessee.

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Speaker 3: Clay what are your thoughts on these two subjects.

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Speaker 25: Bernie, I just want to thank you for having your shows.

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01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:07,160
Speaker 25: I don't usually drive on Saturday night, but it's good

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01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:08,840
Speaker 25: to have a live show on Saturday night.

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Speaker 3: Listen right, great, thanks for listening in.

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Speaker 13: Uh.

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Speaker 23: I guess analytics.

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01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 25: I'm a truck driver, and I guess one of the

1422
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:19,400
Speaker 25: things they taught me coming out of it is if

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01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:23,120
Speaker 25: you live by the GPS, you'll die by it. So

1424
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 25: I kind of, I guess I kind of would say

1425
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:30,080
Speaker 25: the same thing about analytics. I think I'm thinking about

1426
01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 25: that game. I'm an Alabama Cimpson Tide fan, and I

1427
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:35,559
Speaker 25: was thinking about that Clemson game in fifteen when when

1428
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:37,559
Speaker 25: Savan decided to do an on side of kick and

1429
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 25: he just said, my team needs as fart and that's

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01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 25: why I called it. I don't know if he's taking

1431
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 25: the analytics, but you know, you have things like that

1432
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:47,679
Speaker 25: as a coach because you know what your team need.

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01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.

1434
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:55,800
Speaker 2: Don't take away the intuition and feel and experience and

1435
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 2: wisdom of coaches who understand the human element.

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01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:01,240
Speaker 3: I mean, analypts are a guideline.

1437
01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 2: I can't tell you how many times I see team

1438
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 2: teams do what the book says and it fails. But

1439
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 2: one of my least favorite things in the universe is

1440
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:10,880
Speaker 2: a damn two point conversion. I mean, I know you

1441
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:12,280
Speaker 2: maybe it might have to use it at the end

1442
01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:14,360
Speaker 2: of the game to tie a game, but.

1443
01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:15,479
Speaker 3: Before that it fails.

1444
01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:19,080
Speaker 2: So often coaches find themselves chasing points. Do you you're

1445
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 2: down there in sec country, do you have any By

1446
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 2: the way, Lane Kiffin pass to you Fair State one

1447
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 2: point Tennessee another one of.

1448
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 3: His disasters, you know.

1449
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 2: I mean, if if if Old Miss were to win,

1450
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:37,320
Speaker 2: like like Felippe just said, he got him there. But

1451
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:39,200
Speaker 2: I don't think he deserves a trophy if they win

1452
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:39,599
Speaker 2: it all.

1453
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 25: Oh you know what, Bernie, why don't you put him

1454
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 25: in the room getting the trophy with about about fifty

1455
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:48,640
Speaker 25: different Old Miss rebel fans in the room.

1456
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:51,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that might not work out well for Lane.

1457
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:54,559
Speaker 2: You might he might be doing hot yoga from all.

1458
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead.

1459
01:14:57,400 --> 01:14:59,479
Speaker 25: The huts that he didn't won't, But I mean he

1460
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:02,439
Speaker 25: probably I'm assuming that he just they opened up the

1461
01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:04,679
Speaker 25: war Chiff at LSU showed him how much in IL

1462
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 25: money they had, and he went because, like you said, oh,

1463
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:10,120
Speaker 25: miss is going to pay him the same as far

1464
01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:12,559
Speaker 25: as I can have the deal right.

1465
01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:14,720
Speaker 2: And I've had people check in and say, well, will

1466
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:15,639
Speaker 2: they match the nil?

1467
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:17,240
Speaker 3: Well, we don't know, we don't know.

1468
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 2: I do know that the one thing about LSU is

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01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:24,240
Speaker 2: that the top recruits at in their high school football

1470
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:29,679
Speaker 2: down there. They produced elite athletes, elite upper crust athletes. Yeah,

1471
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:32,479
Speaker 2: typically if you're from Louisiana, you want to go to LSU.

1472
01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:36,720
Speaker 2: Not every hometown player stays already anything else, Clinton.

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01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:40,719
Speaker 25: Uh, well, I'm an Alabama fan, so all of you. Honestly,

1474
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 25: I love the team. Since I was knee high to

1475
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 25: a grass opera, I've been watching Alabama football. I've been

1476
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:50,120
Speaker 25: there through the good years in the bad years. I

1477
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 25: don't think Alabama should be in the playoffs, but you

1478
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:57,760
Speaker 25: know they might get in because of I don't know

1479
01:15:57,760 --> 01:15:59,600
Speaker 25: if you want to call it analytics or whatever, but

1480
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:02,320
Speaker 25: they might get in or them might not. That's up

1481
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:04,320
Speaker 25: to them. I don't say them beating any of the

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01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:05,439
Speaker 25: other teams above them.

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01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 2: H yeah, And I don't think all I appreciated Clayton Drives.

1484
01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:12,519
Speaker 2: Safe out there, don't be a stranger. In about an hour,

1485
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:15,960
Speaker 2: I'm going to give my dissertation on who I would

1486
01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:19,720
Speaker 2: project the college football playoff seeding, not who I put in,

1487
01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 2: but what I think the committee's going to do.

1488
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:25,200
Speaker 3: And last year I just about nailed it. I'll just

1489
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:25,960
Speaker 3: give you a tease.

1490
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 2: I don't think Alabama and or Texas is getting in

1491
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:31,800
Speaker 2: because they both have three losses. And the best thing

1492
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:35,559
Speaker 2: that could have happened in Notre Dame and Miami Saturday

1493
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:39,840
Speaker 2: was that you know, both Alabama and BYU got completely

1494
01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:43,760
Speaker 2: pull axed, and then Duke beat Virginia or Virginia would

1495
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:46,439
Speaker 2: have gotten in, So that opened up three potential slots.

1496
01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:49,719
Speaker 2: I want you know, listen my final word on why coaches,

1497
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 2: particularly NFL coaches, can't you simply rely on data alone,

1498
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 2: the thing we call analytics, all right, I truly believe

1499
01:16:57,439 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 2: in the human element.

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Speaker 16: Data.

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01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:03,679
Speaker 2: Analytics provide coaches with what happened yesterday. They can't predict outcomes.

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01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 2: They might optimize plays over the course of a season,

1503
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:12,000
Speaker 2: and perhaps on the aggregate over eighteen games improve player performance.

1504
01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 2: But football is played by human beings, not algorithms. People

1505
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:18,479
Speaker 2: are unpredictable. No amount of data can account for every

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01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:22,880
Speaker 2: variable in a game that day, weather conditions, player emotions, health,

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01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 2: how the game is gone. Intuition allows coaches to trust

1508
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:30,920
Speaker 2: their eyes and read between the lines. They can sense

1509
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:34,400
Speaker 2: when a player is fatigued. They notice shifts when their

1510
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 2: opponents make strategies. They can detect when the right of moment,

1511
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:41,400
Speaker 2: when it's time to take a risk and not. The

1512
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 2: great coaches take this as an art form more than science. Okay,

1513
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:50,840
Speaker 2: NFL games are dynamic changes it Changes are happening throughout

1514
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:55,640
Speaker 2: the game. Situations change. Coaches must make split second decisions

1515
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:59,639
Speaker 2: that can turn a game around. You have to understand players,

1516
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:03,360
Speaker 2: not just your physical abilities, but their mental makeup and

1517
01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:06,760
Speaker 2: what's happening that day, how they handle pressure, how they

1518
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:09,720
Speaker 2: respond to setbacks. You don't know. There might be a

1519
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:12,640
Speaker 2: situation where you go forward on fourth to one on

1520
01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:16,600
Speaker 2: a particular day and against a particular opponent, depending on

1521
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:19,200
Speaker 2: how the game has gone and whether you're outside or

1522
01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:20,679
Speaker 2: insideer whatever.

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01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 3: So you have to balance analytics and intuition. Those are

1524
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:25,679
Speaker 3: my thoughts.

1525
01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:29,600
Speaker 2: It's an inflexible It's not an inflexible anchor. It is

1526
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:33,080
Speaker 2: a guideline. Speaking of guidelines, coming up, our man, our

1527
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:36,160
Speaker 2: NBA guru, Mark Medina, comes up lots of interesting news

1528
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:38,800
Speaker 2: this week in the NBA. Thanks to all the callers again,

1529
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:40,439
Speaker 2: great man night out. Really appreciate you.

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Speaker 3: Keep it locked.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to the Bernie Fratles Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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1533
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:56,599
Speaker 2: rolling right along. Come to live here from the Fox

1534
01:18:56,640 --> 01:19:01,599
Speaker 2: Sports Studio or Fox Sports Radios studios in Las Vegas.

1535
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Speaker 2: Take it to three and Pacific, six am Eastern. Thanks

1536
01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:07,400
Speaker 2: again once again to all the great midnight hour callers.

1537
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 2: Some really good discussions, some really good thoughts. But we

1538
01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:14,080
Speaker 2: turn our attention to the National Basketball Association, where there's

1539
01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:16,880
Speaker 2: always news. Yep, three ship of words.

1540
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 3: It's that time.

1541
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:24,439
Speaker 2: Mark Benina, our Fox Sports Radio NBA guru and a

1542
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:25,080
Speaker 2: writer for.

1543
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:27,840
Speaker 3: Essentially Sports, joins us.

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01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:33,160
Speaker 2: Mark. I must start with the most delicious story is

1545
01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:38,479
Speaker 2: so Clippers esque, and I look, here's the thing. It's

1546
01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 2: not that Chris Paul was released, and I don't think

1547
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:45,280
Speaker 2: it's any secret human TYLERU aren't exactly you gonna take

1548
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:47,960
Speaker 2: a hot shower together anytime soon. But here's the deal,

1549
01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:50,240
Speaker 2: the way they did it to a future Hall of

1550
01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:52,800
Speaker 2: Famer in Atlanta and three in the morning, Lawrence Frank

1551
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 2: makes a special trip. What is the backstory as to

1552
01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 2: why they released him in such an unceremonious fans?

1553
01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:04,240
Speaker 26: Yeah, well lards. Frank the next day said in a

1554
01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 26: conference call that you know, the timing wasn't great because

1555
01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:13,400
Speaker 26: the original plan was to see them and see him

1556
01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:16,040
Speaker 26: in Atlanta much earlier, but there are a lot of

1557
01:20:16,120 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 26: flight delays because they're playing had some engine issues and

1558
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:24,160
Speaker 26: he didn't want to cancel that meeting. But the reality

1559
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:27,040
Speaker 26: is this is something that you don't have when you're

1560
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:27,639
Speaker 26: on the road.

1561
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:28,719
Speaker 4: You have it at home.

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01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:33,519
Speaker 26: And I know that this wasn't the first conversation they've had,

1563
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:37,519
Speaker 26: so I think from the Clippers perspective, they just felt

1564
01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:39,720
Speaker 26: like this isn't going to get better. This is a

1565
01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:43,200
Speaker 26: bad fit. But you're talking about Chris Paul, who's a

1566
01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:45,840
Speaker 26: future Hall of Famer, and I get it when you're

1567
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:48,240
Speaker 26: not having a significant role as you once were a

1568
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:51,759
Speaker 26: number one guy. Your voice doesn't have the same landing

1569
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:56,360
Speaker 26: punch when it comes to brutally honest feedback. But they

1570
01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:58,639
Speaker 26: should have known what they're signing up for number one

1571
01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:02,439
Speaker 26: and number two. You know, some of his criticisms are

1572
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:05,519
Speaker 26: valid because their record has been terrible this season. So

1573
01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:10,680
Speaker 26: I know that Chris through his career, sometimes when he's right,

1574
01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:14,240
Speaker 26: it's not. It's one of those things that's not what

1575
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 26: he says how he says it that can sometimes rub

1576
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:20,919
Speaker 26: them the wrong way. But the Clippers as an organization

1577
01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:23,000
Speaker 26: has to be able to find a way to rise

1578
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:25,760
Speaker 26: above it so that they can at least, you know,

1579
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:30,559
Speaker 26: send Chris Paul out on a fare well to So, yeah,

1580
01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:34,080
Speaker 26: this is a very bad Clippers look, and Chris Paul

1581
01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:37,200
Speaker 26: isn't blameless, but I do put more blame on the

1582
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 26: Clippers handle in it than Chris Paul.

1583
01:21:40,280 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 2: No fair enough, and I know I think they're going

1584
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:45,320
Speaker 2: to dearly miss that two point nine points per game.

1585
01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:48,320
Speaker 2: But all the respect, he's a future Hall of Famer,

1586
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:51,080
Speaker 2: and I understand one of the incidents that inflame the

1587
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:55,879
Speaker 2: situation was a situation where it's department of redundancy, department

1588
01:21:56,360 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 2: where I guess he in mid game, Chris Paul suggested

1589
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 2: Kawhi Leonard to switch or to wait on a switch

1590
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:05,519
Speaker 2: because he wasn't warmed up yet to guard somebody else.

1591
01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:08,240
Speaker 2: And the next day Jeff Van gundhi Or on the

1592
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:10,439
Speaker 2: team plane called him aside and said, hey, you may

1593
01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:12,280
Speaker 2: have had that leeway elsewhere, but you don't have that

1594
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:14,960
Speaker 2: leeway here. So it sound like there was just general

1595
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:16,200
Speaker 2: tension all the way around.

1596
01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:16,840
Speaker 11: Is that fair?

1597
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:17,599
Speaker 25: Yeah?

1598
01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:20,120
Speaker 26: And I mean Chris Haynes reported that nugget, and I

1599
01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:25,519
Speaker 26: think what that anecdote encapsulates is that Chris Paul, you know,

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01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:31,639
Speaker 26: his feedback is understanding Kawhi Leonard struggling defending Kway Thompson.

1601
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:34,120
Speaker 26: Even though Klay Thompson isn't the same player as he

1602
01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:36,280
Speaker 26: was for the Golden State Warriors. He didn't have these

1603
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:39,200
Speaker 26: kind of breakout games, and he was, you know, being

1604
01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:42,160
Speaker 26: a coach from the sideline, because that's what he's often

1605
01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:46,760
Speaker 26: does as the point guard on the floor. But when

1606
01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:49,040
Speaker 26: you're doing those kind of things, you run it by

1607
01:22:49,120 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 26: the coach or you suggest it to the coach. You

1608
01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:54,920
Speaker 26: don't tell your teammate to go against the game plan.

1609
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:58,680
Speaker 26: That's where things get a little messy. And again, the

1610
01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:03,080
Speaker 26: easier rebuttal would be that defensive coverage on Clay didn't

1611
01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:05,040
Speaker 26: work and they should have made those adjustments.

1612
01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:05,759
Speaker 2: But when you're.

1613
01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 26: Adhering to the chain of command and trying to at

1614
01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:13,479
Speaker 26: least show respect to the coaching position, you can't be

1615
01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:17,040
Speaker 26: giving players independent advice. You've got to run through the

1616
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:20,120
Speaker 26: coaching staff so that they can consider it and then

1617
01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:21,880
Speaker 26: apply it if they think it's a good idea.

1618
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:25,200
Speaker 2: So here's a guy who's been in the league for

1619
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:28,799
Speaker 2: twenty years. He's played for eight teams, well, the Clippers twice.

1620
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:31,519
Speaker 2: After an eight year hiatus, he had his second go

1621
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:35,080
Speaker 2: around with the Clippers, played all eighty two games with

1622
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:36,840
Speaker 2: San Antonio last year.

1623
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:39,840
Speaker 3: So my question is this, has he played his last

1624
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:41,960
Speaker 3: game in the NBA or does somebody take a fly round.

1625
01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:45,439
Speaker 26: I think someone will take a flyer on him, but

1626
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:48,080
Speaker 26: it remains to be saying who. First of all, the

1627
01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:51,719
Speaker 26: Clippers haven't technically waived him yet and they can't trade

1628
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:55,320
Speaker 26: him until December fifteenth, But I would expect once December

1629
01:23:55,400 --> 01:23:58,800
Speaker 26: fifteenth tips they'll find a team, probably a young and

1630
01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:03,720
Speaker 26: coming team. Work's voice resonates more where he does find

1631
01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 26: a landing spot. But I think what's fascinating here you

1632
01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:09,680
Speaker 26: mentioned his time with the San Antonino Spurs. I was

1633
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:13,000
Speaker 26: asking him when he was with the Spurs, you know,

1634
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:16,040
Speaker 26: what his approach was with the younger guys, and he

1635
01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:19,560
Speaker 26: made it clear, Look, he's not a babysitter, he's not

1636
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:23,719
Speaker 26: anyone's parent, and he was very self aware that younger

1637
01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:28,120
Speaker 26: teammates don't care about anything other than can you still poop?

1638
01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 26: And so how this pertains to the Clippers. Even though

1639
01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:35,640
Speaker 26: Chris Paul's very outspoken, he's also very self aware of

1640
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:38,200
Speaker 26: that what matters is if he can still play a

1641
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 26: high level and what his role is.

1642
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:42,760
Speaker 2: But the Clippers, you know.

1643
01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:47,320
Speaker 26: Play has been so dire, so inconsistent, that of course

1644
01:24:47,479 --> 01:24:50,920
Speaker 26: Chris is going to share his observations. And I think

1645
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:54,160
Speaker 26: that he felt he had equity because he was with

1646
01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:58,160
Speaker 26: the Clippers the first go round. And so again this

1647
01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:02,240
Speaker 26: illustrates that even though Chris isn't blameless, he is self

1648
01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:06,800
Speaker 26: aware and the Clippers have to find ways to manage this.

1649
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:10,000
Speaker 26: And I think at the reality here is that whatever

1650
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:14,599
Speaker 26: frustrations they have with Chris Paul's delivery style, they should

1651
01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:18,280
Speaker 26: have more energy and concern on how their actual play

1652
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:21,080
Speaker 26: has been it's been abysmal. This is a team that

1653
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:24,240
Speaker 26: thought they were going to be championship contending and while yeah,

1654
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:27,719
Speaker 26: there are injuries like Bradley Beal's season ending injury, Kawhi

1655
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:31,160
Speaker 26: Leonard of course being now the lineup, they shouldn't be

1656
01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:34,880
Speaker 26: this bad and so more the energy should be focused

1657
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:38,479
Speaker 26: on that than opposed to you know, whether Chris is

1658
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:41,439
Speaker 26: delivering the criticisms in an appropriate fashion.

1659
01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:43,840
Speaker 3: All Right?

1660
01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:47,679
Speaker 2: Moving along with Mark Medina Medina Magic or Fox Sports

1661
01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:53,200
Speaker 2: Radio NBA Guru, also writer for Essentially Sports. There have

1662
01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:57,520
Speaker 2: been heavy, heavy, heavy trade rumors in traded media speculation

1663
01:25:57,680 --> 01:26:01,880
Speaker 2: about Gianni's future in Milwaukee. No trades materialize, but it

1664
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:05,360
Speaker 2: sure seems Mark, like this time, where there's smoke, there's fire.

1665
01:26:06,479 --> 01:26:07,200
Speaker 3: What are your thoughts?

1666
01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:12,479
Speaker 26: Well, this has always fluid. Look, I've been proven wrong

1667
01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:15,479
Speaker 26: with Johannis. I thought that he was going to be

1668
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:19,240
Speaker 26: shipped this summer because I thought eventually he would come

1669
01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:21,880
Speaker 26: to the conclusion the right in a brick wall three

1670
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:25,800
Speaker 26: first round exits Damian Loward achilles injury. What am I

1671
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:28,479
Speaker 26: doing here? But he hasn't done that, and he's still

1672
01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 26: to this day, has never given the box a formal

1673
01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:35,720
Speaker 26: trade request right, and I don't think the Bucks will

1674
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:40,479
Speaker 26: ever act on it unless they feel that they get well,

1675
01:26:40,479 --> 01:26:43,800
Speaker 26: they get that message directly, and that there's no better alternatives.

1676
01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:47,759
Speaker 26: So I talked with Marcus Johnson, though Bucks longtime analysts

1677
01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:50,680
Speaker 26: before the season started. I know that you know, he's

1678
01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:53,240
Speaker 26: rooting for the bus or self interest, but he knows

1679
01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:56,200
Speaker 26: Jianni's pretty well, and he was adamant to me that

1680
01:26:56,880 --> 01:27:00,640
Speaker 26: some of these cryptic comments and you know, hauling for

1681
01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:04,200
Speaker 26: the front office to show more urgency, He thought of

1682
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:06,719
Speaker 26: that as more of just trying to push their buttons

1683
01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:09,960
Speaker 26: to get the best rush around them both in the offseason,

1684
01:27:10,040 --> 01:27:13,519
Speaker 26: leaning the tray dead line. But he couldn't see Yannis

1685
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:16,360
Speaker 26: ever having the stomach to leave because he's very loyal

1686
01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:20,440
Speaker 26: to the Bucks organization. But also, even amid the frustrations

1687
01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:23,519
Speaker 26: of early first round exits, the Bucks have made a

1688
01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:26,879
Speaker 26: lot of win now moves to try to give Giannis

1689
01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:30,599
Speaker 26: the best chance to win another championship. You know, getting

1690
01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:33,200
Speaker 26: Drew Holliday, that was a win now move that obviously

1691
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:36,880
Speaker 26: helped in twenty twenty one. Now what didn't work, but

1692
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:40,559
Speaker 26: you can understand their rest of this. Getting Damian Loward.

1693
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:43,160
Speaker 26: So I think that the Bucks for an office is

1694
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 26: messaging to Yannis if he ever changes his mind, is

1695
01:27:47,400 --> 01:27:50,280
Speaker 26: they're going to say, look like we've hit on some moves,

1696
01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:52,559
Speaker 26: We've whooped on some moves. One thing you can ever

1697
01:27:52,680 --> 01:27:56,479
Speaker 26: question is our intentions and building the best rushing around you.

1698
01:27:56,680 --> 01:27:58,920
Speaker 26: So again, I thought that he was going to be

1699
01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:02,160
Speaker 26: gone last summer. I was proven wrong, and now I

1700
01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:05,400
Speaker 26: think moving forward, while this is fluid and the Bucks

1701
01:28:05,479 --> 01:28:09,360
Speaker 26: have struggled this season, I think he's staying. I don't

1702
01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:11,759
Speaker 26: think that Giannis is ever going to give that direct

1703
01:28:11,920 --> 01:28:15,519
Speaker 26: message to Milwaukee that he wants out. I think that

1704
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:19,160
Speaker 26: any meetings that he has with Milwaukee, it's just going

1705
01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:21,800
Speaker 26: to be about what are they going to do to

1706
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:26,439
Speaker 26: make the roster better competitive? You know, lamenting the losing,

1707
01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:30,599
Speaker 26: but it's always going to be about internal improvement as

1708
01:28:30,680 --> 01:28:32,320
Speaker 26: opposed to saying that he wants out.

1709
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:38,280
Speaker 2: Here's what's interesting. I don't have any source on this,

1710
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:42,800
Speaker 2: and it's more gud feel. Milwaukee's ten and fifteen. They're

1711
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:45,160
Speaker 2: two and eight in their last ten. They're really kind

1712
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:48,400
Speaker 2: of headed to nowhere, and you hear these.

1713
01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:51,280
Speaker 3: These rumors blowing in the wind.

1714
01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:55,240
Speaker 2: For instance, the potential Nick trade, which actually it doesn't

1715
01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:59,799
Speaker 2: look horrible to me, but then you hear people reporting

1716
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:03,080
Speaker 2: and it's not just the Knicks. There are other suitors.

1717
01:29:04,160 --> 01:29:07,639
Speaker 2: If the honest would ever say, which you probably won't,

1718
01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:10,080
Speaker 2: that he's ready to move on from Milwaukee. So it

1719
01:29:10,240 --> 01:29:13,160
Speaker 2: just seems like a stalemate. But it seems like someone

1720
01:29:13,280 --> 01:29:16,880
Speaker 2: like the Knicks would benefit from an honest and Milwaukee

1721
01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:20,439
Speaker 2: certainly would get assets back, including draft choices.

1722
01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:24,080
Speaker 26: Your thoughts, Yeah, I mean every team wants Yannest. I

1723
01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:27,479
Speaker 26: think the challenging thing is the Bucks are going to

1724
01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:31,000
Speaker 26: expect a lot in return, and I think that teams

1725
01:29:31,040 --> 01:29:34,040
Speaker 26: are going to guard against gutting a roster to get

1726
01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:37,080
Speaker 26: Janis as well as treating a lot of draft picks

1727
01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:39,479
Speaker 26: because of what's going on with the second Apron. So

1728
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:42,280
Speaker 26: I think, you know, the Knicks would have to give

1729
01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:44,360
Speaker 26: up a lot, but I think what helps is that

1730
01:29:44,479 --> 01:29:48,080
Speaker 26: they have existing talent that makes it easier to stomach.

1731
01:29:48,160 --> 01:29:51,840
Speaker 26: So if the Knicks ever get Yanis from the Bucks,

1732
01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:54,160
Speaker 26: they would have to give up car on the Towns. Yes,

1733
01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:56,960
Speaker 26: they would have to give up draft picks, but it

1734
01:29:57,080 --> 01:29:59,719
Speaker 26: also helps that they have a good core in place,

1735
01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:03,160
Speaker 26: have Jon Bruns and they have o Giadaobi, they have

1736
01:30:03,439 --> 01:30:07,000
Speaker 26: Josh Hart. Where I think with other teams, you know,

1737
01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:09,519
Speaker 26: you're looking at the Lakers. Of course they'd have to

1738
01:30:09,560 --> 01:30:11,760
Speaker 26: get rid of Austin Reeves, they'd have to get rid

1739
01:30:11,800 --> 01:30:15,280
Speaker 26: of other role players. But you know, while none of

1740
01:30:15,320 --> 01:30:17,560
Speaker 26: those players are better than Yannis, it's going to be

1741
01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:20,040
Speaker 26: one of those things that you know, is it really

1742
01:30:20,120 --> 01:30:22,840
Speaker 26: worth it stripping the cover bear to get him? And

1743
01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:24,840
Speaker 26: I don't think that for the Lakers is to their

1744
01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:26,720
Speaker 26: benefit or for the Bucks, I don't think it's to

1745
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:30,439
Speaker 26: their benefits. So I really think the Knicks are that

1746
01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:33,120
Speaker 26: loan team that actually have the assets to pull it off.

1747
01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:36,640
Speaker 26: Where you're looking at teams like at Nanas, San Antonio,

1748
01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:41,640
Speaker 26: Golden State, unless they're again stripping their cover bear, I

1749
01:30:41,720 --> 01:30:45,240
Speaker 26: don't see what this accomplishes for either party. Although you know,

1750
01:30:45,920 --> 01:30:50,360
Speaker 26: Brownie for you know what, up, you know what, I

1751
01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:53,000
Speaker 26: take that back. I think if it's a straight up

1752
01:30:53,080 --> 01:30:55,400
Speaker 26: one for one deal, it would match both in talent

1753
01:30:55,479 --> 01:30:56,760
Speaker 26: and salary. It's a noble way.

1754
01:30:56,760 --> 01:31:00,080
Speaker 3: And if you're throwing an ass into the Google, you

1755
01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:00,400
Speaker 3: might have.

1756
01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:00,880
Speaker 2: A deal there.

1757
01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:02,719
Speaker 26: That's true, that's true.

1758
01:31:02,840 --> 01:31:05,040
Speaker 2: Two for two for two for one, you know, yeah,

1759
01:31:05,439 --> 01:31:08,479
Speaker 2: that's our attempt at comedy. Fifty billion people out of

1760
01:31:08,520 --> 01:31:10,040
Speaker 2: the business, we're trying to break into the business.

1761
01:31:10,720 --> 01:31:12,639
Speaker 3: Listen along those I don't.

1762
01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:15,200
Speaker 26: I don't think Rob Polinka would have given that joke

1763
01:31:15,240 --> 01:31:17,280
Speaker 26: to Milwaukee because they would have just hung up on them.

1764
01:31:20,479 --> 01:31:24,920
Speaker 2: Well, I listen, it's hard to say bad things about Giannis.

1765
01:31:24,960 --> 01:31:27,120
Speaker 2: I like the guy, and you're right, who would want

1766
01:31:27,400 --> 01:31:30,920
Speaker 2: him on your team? Something's really wrong in Milwaukee though.

1767
01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:33,120
Speaker 2: It's broken and it's not going to be fixed this

1768
01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:36,400
Speaker 2: year and times of waste and it just feels like

1769
01:31:36,680 --> 01:31:39,760
Speaker 2: it's not doing anybody any good. Just to stand pat

1770
01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:43,240
Speaker 2: but not my problem. Let's talk about Lebron. I don't

1771
01:31:43,240 --> 01:31:46,439
Speaker 2: know what you were doing on January fifth, two thousand

1772
01:31:46,439 --> 01:31:49,360
Speaker 2: and seven. That was the last time Lebron scored less

1773
01:31:49,400 --> 01:31:52,040
Speaker 2: than ten points. And as we are always ahead of

1774
01:31:52,040 --> 01:31:54,040
Speaker 2: the curve, we brought up this last week. I brought

1775
01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:56,240
Speaker 2: it up to your thoughts. You know, the streak ends

1776
01:31:56,280 --> 01:31:59,080
Speaker 2: at twelve ninety seven. We didn't see this coming. Now.

1777
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:02,439
Speaker 2: I think Lebron Hill actually helped his legacy. But a

1778
01:32:02,479 --> 01:32:05,599
Speaker 2: cynical person, fortunately I'm not cynical Mark. We say, well,

1779
01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:08,120
Speaker 2: the game was tied, so even if Hachimura misses it,

1780
01:32:08,240 --> 01:32:09,120
Speaker 2: they're gonna go a team.

1781
01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:10,280
Speaker 3: He's gonna keep.

1782
01:32:10,160 --> 01:32:12,360
Speaker 2: A streak going, right, and then he can say, well,

1783
01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:14,320
Speaker 2: that's that's how I've been my whole life, you know,

1784
01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:17,400
Speaker 2: And he looks like a hero. But you talk about that,

1785
01:32:17,920 --> 01:32:21,320
Speaker 2: and it really seemed to be a spark in this magical,

1786
01:32:21,400 --> 01:32:24,760
Speaker 2: whimsical Lakers season so far. The streak comes to end

1787
01:32:24,920 --> 01:32:29,400
Speaker 2: in somewhat ceremonious fashion. What was your knee jerk reaction

1788
01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:30,360
Speaker 2: when you saw the story?

1789
01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:33,000
Speaker 26: Well, I think there's so many letters to this, so

1790
01:32:33,080 --> 01:32:35,599
Speaker 26: you can look at this as showing that, look, Lebron

1791
01:32:35,720 --> 01:32:38,360
Speaker 26: James is not the same player as he once was

1792
01:32:38,479 --> 01:32:41,519
Speaker 26: in his prime, because there was automatic from two thousand

1793
01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:44,800
Speaker 26: and seven to now at least scoring ten points. But

1794
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:48,720
Speaker 26: I think it's also symbolic that, you know, he is

1795
01:32:48,840 --> 01:32:51,160
Speaker 26: someone that has gotten a lot of praise as well

1796
01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:53,360
Speaker 26: as a lot of criticism for being that star player

1797
01:32:53,439 --> 01:32:56,880
Speaker 26: that doesn't take hero shots, isn't intent on taking the

1798
01:32:56,960 --> 01:33:01,000
Speaker 26: last shot before the game, and instead is on making

1799
01:33:01,120 --> 01:33:04,200
Speaker 26: what he thinks is the right basketball player play, and

1800
01:33:04,280 --> 01:33:06,880
Speaker 26: that is taking a shot if it's open, or pass

1801
01:33:07,360 --> 01:33:10,040
Speaker 26: to an open teammate. And that's what happened. I think

1802
01:33:10,120 --> 01:33:13,519
Speaker 26: the third thing is that this also symbolizes that, at

1803
01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:16,519
Speaker 26: least from an x's and o's perspective, I think Lebron

1804
01:33:17,640 --> 01:33:19,960
Speaker 26: is willing to take a back seat, not only to

1805
01:33:20,040 --> 01:33:24,360
Speaker 26: Luka Dantch, but Austin Reeves. Now Here is the contradiction

1806
01:33:24,520 --> 01:33:27,680
Speaker 26: that is Lebron James on the court. He's fine with

1807
01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:31,120
Speaker 26: adjusting his role. It's always about off the court on

1808
01:33:31,880 --> 01:33:34,040
Speaker 26: how much control is he willing to let go of

1809
01:33:34,120 --> 01:33:36,720
Speaker 26: the locker room. You know, he did take a pay

1810
01:33:36,800 --> 01:33:40,080
Speaker 26: cut when he joined forces with Dwayne Wayne Christ boss

1811
01:33:40,280 --> 01:33:42,519
Speaker 26: or go to the Miami Heat. But ever since then,

1812
01:33:42,680 --> 01:33:46,200
Speaker 26: he's his mind is he's never going to take a

1813
01:33:46,280 --> 01:33:50,280
Speaker 26: pay cut because why he feels he has earned the

1814
01:33:50,360 --> 01:33:53,960
Speaker 26: right to make max money. So that's where the challenge

1815
01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:56,160
Speaker 26: is going to be. I think that again, from a

1816
01:33:56,240 --> 01:33:59,839
Speaker 26: basketball perspective, I think he's mostly going to be a positive,

1817
01:34:00,320 --> 01:34:03,600
Speaker 26: productive influence here. But what's always going to be the

1818
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:06,240
Speaker 26: elephant in the ruin this season is is he going

1819
01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:08,920
Speaker 26: to be comfortable enough to announce retirement And if not

1820
01:34:09,200 --> 01:34:12,640
Speaker 26: and he wants to come back next season, what what

1821
01:34:13,080 --> 01:34:16,880
Speaker 26: does he deem acceptable as far as any kind of

1822
01:34:16,920 --> 01:34:20,519
Speaker 26: hometown discount. So yeah, there's a lot of things to

1823
01:34:20,640 --> 01:34:24,360
Speaker 26: unpack with that play, but that's always how Lebron James is.

1824
01:34:25,320 --> 01:34:27,519
Speaker 2: I think I've told you this story. It's a true story.

1825
01:34:28,439 --> 01:34:30,679
Speaker 2: Two thousand and three, while I was residing in Michigan.

1826
01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:32,320
Speaker 2: It took the two hour drive down to Cleveland, and

1827
01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:34,799
Speaker 2: I saw him play when he was with Saint Vincentcine Mary's.

1828
01:34:35,040 --> 01:34:36,439
Speaker 2: I told you that story, I think, did I know

1829
01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:36,880
Speaker 2: you did?

1830
01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:37,800
Speaker 26: Yeah, but tell me.

1831
01:34:37,960 --> 01:34:38,160
Speaker 19: Yeah.

1832
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:39,960
Speaker 3: Well, but here's the part I didn't tell.

1833
01:34:40,240 --> 01:34:43,720
Speaker 2: And I he you know, I noticed he had a

1834
01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:46,439
Speaker 2: linebacker body, he had guard handles, and I said, you

1835
01:34:46,479 --> 01:34:48,680
Speaker 2: could put this kid in an NBA game and he'd

1836
01:34:48,680 --> 01:34:50,920
Speaker 2: probably be all right. And sure enough, six months later

1837
01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:52,800
Speaker 2: they did. He dished off a.

1838
01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:54,720
Speaker 3: Lot of assists that night. Here's the part I didn't say.

1839
01:34:55,479 --> 01:34:58,160
Speaker 2: Lebron his junior year averaged twenty seven points a game

1840
01:34:58,200 --> 01:35:00,559
Speaker 2: in high school. Now that's not any kind of world record, right,

1841
01:35:00,680 --> 01:35:03,519
Speaker 2: That's that proved he was distributing the ball. I guess

1842
01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:06,880
Speaker 2: somebody points to average the senior year twenty seven.

1843
01:35:08,160 --> 01:35:09,440
Speaker 3: So I had my bachelor.

1844
01:35:09,160 --> 01:35:11,800
Speaker 2: Lebron a lot, But it is in his nature to

1845
01:35:11,920 --> 01:35:14,040
Speaker 2: try to make the best decision with the basketball. But

1846
01:35:14,120 --> 01:35:17,240
Speaker 2: it's kind of the old Reggie Jackson line. He'll give

1847
01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:18,760
Speaker 2: you the shirt off his back, but then they'll call

1848
01:35:18,840 --> 01:35:21,400
Speaker 2: three press conferences to tell everybody he did it. He's

1849
01:35:21,439 --> 01:35:21,800
Speaker 2: not going to.

1850
01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:22,720
Speaker 3: Retire anytime soon.

1851
01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:26,479
Speaker 2: You you touched on something Mark a minute ago that

1852
01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:32,880
Speaker 2: I think is it's got to stroke the intrepid journalistic proclivities.

1853
01:35:32,920 --> 01:35:36,120
Speaker 2: I know you must have. How much is Lebron pining

1854
01:35:36,280 --> 01:35:39,400
Speaker 2: for an opportunity to sign with the Lakers next year?

1855
01:35:39,560 --> 01:35:40,519
Speaker 3: And what is his floor?

1856
01:35:40,920 --> 01:35:43,479
Speaker 2: And just Rob, did they really want to run this

1857
01:35:43,680 --> 01:35:45,599
Speaker 2: back at any price? Really?

1858
01:35:46,760 --> 01:35:48,680
Speaker 26: I don't think it's at any price. So the other

1859
01:35:48,840 --> 01:35:52,160
Speaker 26: thing that Lebron has made it clear when it comes

1860
01:35:52,200 --> 01:35:55,320
Speaker 26: to interpreting the Tea leaves is that he said he's

1861
01:35:55,360 --> 01:35:57,680
Speaker 26: not going to just always prolong his career just for

1862
01:35:57,760 --> 01:35:58,280
Speaker 26: the sake of it.

1863
01:35:58,400 --> 01:35:59,200
Speaker 3: That I don't believe it.

1864
01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:03,280
Speaker 26: Well, I think here's where it is. I think he's

1865
01:36:03,400 --> 01:36:07,520
Speaker 26: willing to prolong his career if he is still performing

1866
01:36:07,640 --> 01:36:10,679
Speaker 26: at an all star caliber level and it's being treated

1867
01:36:11,360 --> 01:36:14,639
Speaker 26: as an all Star caliber player, and what does that mean.

1868
01:36:14,960 --> 01:36:17,800
Speaker 26: I don't think he's taking the Vince Carter route of

1869
01:36:18,520 --> 01:36:21,679
Speaker 26: I'm going to keep playing even if that means omnow

1870
01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:23,920
Speaker 26: a role player, or even if it means now I'm

1871
01:36:23,920 --> 01:36:26,360
Speaker 26: going to start coming off the bench. I think that

1872
01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:30,200
Speaker 26: he's content with giving the keys to Luka Doncic because

1873
01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:33,639
Speaker 26: Luka Doncic is one of the premier stars in the NBA.

1874
01:36:34,439 --> 01:36:36,120
Speaker 26: But I don't think that it's ever going to get

1875
01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:38,080
Speaker 26: to the point that, you know what, now he's a

1876
01:36:38,120 --> 01:36:42,439
Speaker 26: six man. So yeah, I could see him again coming

1877
01:36:42,520 --> 01:36:46,880
Speaker 26: back as a number two option relative discount, but what

1878
01:36:47,120 --> 01:36:51,160
Speaker 26: that salary number looks like. It's hard because the Lakers

1879
01:36:51,240 --> 01:36:54,040
Speaker 26: also have to make sure they have enough money to

1880
01:36:54,120 --> 01:36:57,600
Speaker 26: resign Austin Reeves, and they've He's shown that he is

1881
01:36:57,720 --> 01:37:02,760
Speaker 26: deserving of whatever MAC contract he can get, and that's

1882
01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:04,880
Speaker 26: where a lot of this is a gray area.

1883
01:37:06,920 --> 01:37:11,439
Speaker 2: I completely agree with Austin Reeves. Later in the show,

1884
01:37:11,479 --> 01:37:14,880
Speaker 2: I'm going to talk about through year five his progression

1885
01:37:15,680 --> 01:37:18,120
Speaker 2: side by side with Kobe's in terms of points per game.

1886
01:37:18,520 --> 01:37:23,000
Speaker 2: It's uncanny. The productions are almost identical. And I will

1887
01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:26,120
Speaker 2: say this, and I'm not sure to be a clown here.

1888
01:37:26,720 --> 01:37:29,920
Speaker 2: We both know the NBA veteran minimum salary for a

1889
01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:33,200
Speaker 2: player with more than ten years of time. He's about

1890
01:37:33,240 --> 01:37:36,120
Speaker 2: three point six million. Even if le Brown said to

1891
01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:38,920
Speaker 2: Rob Blinka, I'll play for three point six million. I

1892
01:37:39,040 --> 01:37:40,840
Speaker 2: just want to be a Laker, I'd say, you know what,

1893
01:37:41,280 --> 01:37:43,360
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna move on. We just we got

1894
01:37:43,439 --> 01:37:45,800
Speaker 2: to move forward. The Lakers need to get better defensively.

1895
01:37:46,120 --> 01:37:48,880
Speaker 2: They need to backfill in. You got Luca, you got Austin,

1896
01:37:48,920 --> 01:37:51,680
Speaker 2: you got other guys. Even DeAndre Ayton's played a little better.

1897
01:37:52,320 --> 01:37:54,479
Speaker 2: I just think he's got a goal. I mean, and

1898
01:37:54,760 --> 01:37:55,639
Speaker 2: go back to Cleveland.

1899
01:37:55,680 --> 01:37:56,000
Speaker 3: Go back.

1900
01:37:56,160 --> 01:37:58,280
Speaker 2: Somebody will take you and they won't sit you on

1901
01:37:58,320 --> 01:37:58,639
Speaker 2: the bench.

1902
01:37:58,880 --> 01:37:59,880
Speaker 3: That's just the way I see it.

1903
01:38:00,160 --> 01:38:02,080
Speaker 2: He's going to go out kicking and screaming. He went

1904
01:38:02,160 --> 01:38:07,080
Speaker 2: a full year of Avery retirement type, you know, send off,

1905
01:38:07,880 --> 01:38:08,919
Speaker 2: you know the farewell.

1906
01:38:09,720 --> 01:38:11,639
Speaker 26: Yeah, And I think to build off of this, We've

1907
01:38:11,720 --> 01:38:14,679
Speaker 26: talked about Chris Paul earlier in the segment. I don't

1908
01:38:14,680 --> 01:38:17,519
Speaker 26: think Lebron is going to be trying to repeat Chris

1909
01:38:17,880 --> 01:38:20,840
Speaker 26: is path. And I don't even mean about you know

1910
01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:24,840
Speaker 26: this past week hard. What I mean is, you know

1911
01:38:24,960 --> 01:38:27,920
Speaker 26: you saw Chris Paul joining the Golden Say Warriors. He's

1912
01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:31,040
Speaker 26: willing to come off the bench be a mentor with

1913
01:38:31,200 --> 01:38:33,639
Speaker 26: the Santorian spurs young guys. I don't think that he's

1914
01:38:33,720 --> 01:38:36,160
Speaker 26: of that mind to do it again. He wants to

1915
01:38:36,240 --> 01:38:39,160
Speaker 26: come back another year or two or three. But as

1916
01:38:39,280 --> 01:38:43,599
Speaker 26: long as again his his production is all star caliber,

1917
01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:47,439
Speaker 26: his role is all star caliber, as well as the pay.

1918
01:38:48,600 --> 01:38:51,160
Speaker 2: Mark great stuff is always. You just never know what's

1919
01:38:51,160 --> 01:38:53,479
Speaker 2: going to happen in the news cycle between now next Saturday.

1920
01:38:53,800 --> 01:38:56,639
Speaker 2: That's what makes this segment so much fun. Thanks Royer,

1921
01:38:56,680 --> 01:38:57,200
Speaker 2: help Mark.

1922
01:38:57,280 --> 01:38:57,960
Speaker 26: I appreciate you.

1923
01:38:58,560 --> 01:39:01,360
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1924
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1925
01:39:06,720 --> 01:39:08,360
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1926
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Speaker 2: gonna give Lebron his flowers for what he did the

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Speaker 2: other night and how the game ended and it turned

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Speaker 2: to a real happy moment for the Lakers. I'm Bernie Frattle.

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Speaker 2: or Radio. Just a minute, we'll get to the much

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Speaker 2: awaited Fantasy Files. We are eight hours and thirty minutes

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Speaker 2: away from Week fourteen to the NFL, and it is

1950
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Speaker 2: crunch time, the final week for the playoffs start. But again,

1951
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Speaker 2: Lebron's scoring streak ended the other night. His ten point

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01:40:29,439 --> 01:40:33,280
Speaker 2: streak started January sixth, twenty oh seven. Lebron had the

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Speaker 2: ball in his hands thirteen feet from the backket with

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Speaker 2: two seconds to go. He could have taken a shot,

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Speaker 2: but instead of shooting, he passed to a wide open Ruyatamura.

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Speaker 2: Ruey hit the game winning three at the buzzer. Lebron

1957
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Speaker 2: didn't necessarily have a good night shooting at a bad

1958
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Speaker 2: night shooting. It was four seventeen, including five from behind

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Speaker 2: the arc, didn't make a single free throw, but they won.

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Speaker 2: The Lakers won. Luca was in Slovenia for the birth

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Speaker 2: of his child. Lebron James did have eleven assists and

1962
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Speaker 2: that helped Austin Reeves to a forty four point nine.

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Speaker 2: It will go down is an amazing streak and it

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Speaker 2: ended with a walk off assist by Lebron James, who, yes,

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Speaker 2: the only man who ever played twenty three years in

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Speaker 2: the National Basketball Association. But I digress. All right, this

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Speaker 2: segment is important. Get your pens and pencils ready. You

1968
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Speaker 2: know you want to win your fantasy league. My son's

1969
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Speaker 2: in the playoffs. He's got to buy, but he's got

1970
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Speaker 2: a dilemma.

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Speaker 3: But be that as it may. Well, let's go to

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Speaker 3: the Fantasy Files.

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Speaker 6: Fantasy Files with Brandon Deutsch, your go to fantasy football segment.

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Speaker 2: Are you on one one?

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Speaker 1: What is up?

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Speaker 4: Guys?

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Speaker 27: I am Brandon Deutsch on the Bernie Fratto Show. And yes,

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Speaker 27: as Bernie said, one week before most leagues start their

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Speaker 27: playoff matchups, Now I know a few guys that started

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Speaker 27: their leagues a few weeks ago because there are two

1981
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Speaker 27: week matchups for each round. That's a very rare league.

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Speaker 27: Though I am on a buy in a few leagues

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Speaker 27: as well. Very thankful for that, considering I have four

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Speaker 27: to forty nine ers on one team and there on

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Speaker 27: buy and Week fourteen. But let's get into the much

1986
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Speaker 27: awaited sid start suggestions. I want to start at the

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Speaker 27: running back position because RJ. Harvey has a pretty good

1988
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Speaker 27: matchup against the Las Vegas Raiders, and even though the

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Speaker 27: Raiders rank in the middle of the pack against the

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Speaker 27: run fifteenth one hundred and ten point eight yards per game,

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Speaker 27: I do like Harvey's usage over the last few weeks,

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Speaker 27: ever since Dobbins has ruled out for the rest of

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Speaker 27: the season. Now, he hasn't been that efficient, but the

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Speaker 27: usage is there, and he's getting one hundred percent of

1995
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Speaker 27: red zone touches and he can only imagine that Denver's

1996
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Speaker 27: likely going to be ahead the entire game, which means

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Speaker 27: they will run the ball with RJ.

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Speaker 3: Harvey.

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Speaker 27: Now, I would also sit Kareem Hunt against Houston. Houston

2000
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Speaker 27: has the fourth ranked run defense and all in football,

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Speaker 27: only giving up ninety one point seven yards per game.

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Speaker 27: Don't love that matchup for especially a guy that they

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Speaker 27: only use at the goal line. Now he might get

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Speaker 27: a touchdown, Okay, cool, enjoy the eight fantasy points. I

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Speaker 27: don't think there's any upside for fifteen plus for Kareem

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Speaker 27: Hunt against arguably the best defensive line in the league

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Speaker 27: right now. And this is one that I've gotten a

2008
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Speaker 27: lot of questions about that a lot of people are

2009
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Speaker 27: starting in a pivotal week and it's Devin Neil against

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Speaker 27: Tampa Bay. Now, Tampa Bay's run defense is ranked six,

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Speaker 27: so you would think he's a sit right ninety seven

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Speaker 27: point four rushing yards per game. But Devin Neil, the

2013
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Speaker 27: way they utilize him is a lot like vintage Alvin Kamara,

2014
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Speaker 27: and in that sense, he's not Alvin Kamara. But he

2015
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Speaker 27: catches the ball at a very high level out of

2016
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Speaker 27: the backfield. And Tampa Bay's pass defense ranks twenty six

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Speaker 27: against the pass, so or twenty ninth rather against the pass.

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Speaker 27: So I do think Devin Neil has a pretty big game.

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Speaker 27: I think he's a solid flex option, especially with a

2020
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Speaker 27: few guys on by. We'll stay in running backs here.

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Speaker 27: I don't like what he marks against Kansas City's top

2022
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Speaker 27: ten run defense. Kansas City stole only allows one hundred

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Speaker 27: rushing yards per game. Don't love Houston in this matchup

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Speaker 27: to you ahead either. I would sit both running backs

2025
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Speaker 27: in this game, Kareem Hunt and what he marks now.

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Speaker 27: A spot start that I like is Kenneth Walker against Atlanta,

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Speaker 27: and he could argue Zach Sharboney might take away a touchdown,

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Speaker 27: but Walker's been pretty effective the last few weeks, and

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Speaker 27: I expect Seattle to be ahead this entire game, which

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Speaker 27: means I think Walker actually gets a touchdown in one

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Speaker 27: hundred plus yards as well. I think Sharpon Ay also

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Speaker 27: gets a touchdown. I would sit Chris Rodriguez against Minnesota.

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Speaker 27: Chris Rodriguez's fantasy production is literally contingent upon touchdowns. I

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Speaker 27: don't love that Commander's backfield, especially with Jane Daniels coming

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Speaker 27: back taking away rushing snaps. I just don't like that

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Speaker 27: at all. Now let's get to some wide receivers. Chris

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Speaker 27: o'lave against Tampa Bay. Like I mentioned, Tampa Bay one

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Speaker 27: of the worst pass defenses in all football, ranked twenty ninth.

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Speaker 27: Chris o'lave should be a lock in start, you would think,

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Speaker 27: But I've gotten some questions. Should I start him. He's questionable.

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Speaker 27: We have to see whether he plays, But if he starts,

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Speaker 27: I would start him. I'd sit Romeo Dobbs against Chicago.

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Speaker 27: This wide receiver room, you don't know who's going to

2044
01:44:55,400 --> 01:44:58,320
Speaker 27: go off each week. Dantavian Wicks had a big game

2045
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Speaker 27: the last time they played, Watson had a few big

2046
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Speaker 27: games before that. I mean, it's basically a dart throw.

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Speaker 27: Whoever you play a wide receiver for the Packers. So

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Speaker 27: I would sit Romeo Dobbs. I think he's gotten the

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Speaker 27: short end of the stick last few weeks. A spot

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Speaker 27: start I like in pivotal matchup for you this week

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Speaker 27: is eighty Mitchell against Miami. Now, Miami ranks middle of

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Speaker 27: the pack against pass defense. But Ady Mitchell twenty fantasy

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Speaker 27: points with Tarrod Taylor last week. Really like what he

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Speaker 27: can bring this week, and I would sit DeVante Smith

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Speaker 27: against the Chargers' second ranked pass defense. The Chargers are

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Speaker 27: only giving up one hundred and sixty eight point three

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Speaker 27: passing yards per game. Might be a rough going for

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Speaker 27: Jalen Hurts. I would start Jakobe Myers against Indianapolis's twenty

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Speaker 27: seventh ranked pass defense. Jacoby Myers has been nails since

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Speaker 27: showing up in Jacksonville. In fact, they've won almost every

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Speaker 27: game he's been there, and Trevor Lawrence has targeted him

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Speaker 27: more than any other receiver including BTJ. I know he's

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Speaker 27: dealt with some injuries, but I do like Jacoby Myers there.

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Speaker 27: I would sit Chris Godwin against the New Orleans Saints.

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Speaker 27: Chris Godwin is going up against the seventh bring past.

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Speaker 27: Even say what you want about New Orleans losing games,

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Speaker 27: but they have a pretty good pass defense. Baker hasn't

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Speaker 27: really done anything in weeks, and a mechag Buka is

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Speaker 27: bound for a bounce back game at some point. They

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Speaker 27: used Tess Johnson a little bit as well. I really

2071
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Speaker 27: like what he can do on your bench this week.

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Speaker 27: Not in your lineup again. I'm Brandon Deutsch. Those are

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Speaker 27: my SI Star wide receivers and running backs for this week.

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Speaker 27: You can find me at BSD Takes on X. You

2075
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Speaker 27: can find me at Brandon S. Deutsch on TikTok and

2076
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Speaker 27: on Instagram providing fantasy analysis. Let's win our matchups. A

2077
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Speaker 27: very pivotal week, Bernie, back to you on this one.

2078
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Speaker 27: I want to be in the championship. I know you

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Speaker 27: probably do too, and your son, So.

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Speaker 2: Brandon, let's talk about that because I haven't done fantasy

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Speaker 2: in ten years ago. My son Joey is a really

2082
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Speaker 2: good team. He's already in first place in his league

2083
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Speaker 2: and he's already earned a buy. However, three weeks ago

2084
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Speaker 2: he lost Tucker Kraft. Okay, yeah, he was able to

2085
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Speaker 2: replace him with Dalton Schultz, who's been serviceable. So we

2086
01:46:58,280 --> 01:47:00,679
Speaker 2: don't like to talk about that. But now he's lost

2087
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Speaker 2: Rome with Doonzay and he picked up Luther Burdon Junior.

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Speaker 2: He's going to start him Sunday. Your thoughts on Luther

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Speaker 2: Burden Junior. He seems to have better chemistry than DJ

2090
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Speaker 2: Moore with with Caleb Williams. I don't want to lead

2091
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Speaker 2: the witness here, but what are your thoughts about Luther

2092
01:47:17,439 --> 01:47:18,000
Speaker 2: Burton Junior?

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Speaker 3: Could he have a game?

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Speaker 4: I think so?

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Speaker 27: I mean his yacht, I mean, his yards per catch

2096
01:47:23,280 --> 01:47:26,160
Speaker 27: is ridiculously high. He's a big play guy, right, so

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01:47:26,320 --> 01:47:28,479
Speaker 27: all you need from him is three or four catches

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Speaker 27: for fifty plus yards and you're hoping it's a touchdown.

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Speaker 27: Rome's out, obviously, Rome hasn't done anything in weeks. They're

2100
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Speaker 27: playing a good decent pass defense in Green Bay. You know,

2101
01:47:38,960 --> 01:47:42,080
Speaker 27: they rank six against the pass, so they're actually pretty good.

2102
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Speaker 27: Their secondary can be exploited, and we've seen that with

2103
01:47:45,360 --> 01:47:47,519
Speaker 27: receivers like Luthor Burdon. I like it as a dart

2104
01:47:47,600 --> 01:47:50,679
Speaker 27: throw option. I mean, I noted Ady Mitchell as well

2105
01:47:51,840 --> 01:47:53,599
Speaker 27: for the Jets. I think to Rod kind of runs

2106
01:47:53,600 --> 01:47:56,759
Speaker 27: that offense way better than justin field. There's a few others,

2107
01:47:56,840 --> 01:47:58,400
Speaker 27: but yeah, I like Luther Burn and I had a

2108
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Speaker 27: guy who picked him up in a for a laugh

2109
01:48:00,280 --> 01:48:01,559
Speaker 27: matchup in one of my leagues as well.

2110
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Speaker 2: It's mainly a situation where we think there's upside potential,

2111
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Speaker 2: and I think he'll get his share at targets now.

2112
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Speaker 2: My son also has Marvin Harrison, who's nursing that heel injury.

2113
01:48:13,000 --> 01:48:17,160
Speaker 2: But he picked up Michael Wilson, who's he'll start again Sunday,

2114
01:48:17,160 --> 01:48:20,760
Speaker 2: who's been pretty solid with I think before last week

2115
01:48:20,880 --> 01:48:24,920
Speaker 2: with with with Jaobe Brissett. But here's the question I

2116
01:48:25,000 --> 01:48:27,240
Speaker 2: want to ask, So he's going to end up It

2117
01:48:27,360 --> 01:48:30,280
Speaker 2: was after much dissertation. He's going to start Devon Vailey

2118
01:48:30,880 --> 01:48:34,439
Speaker 2: tomorrow in place of Marvin Harrison because he can't because

2119
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Speaker 2: Harrison's out, and I feel like he's got a fairly

2120
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Speaker 2: good matchup against the Buccaneers on Sunday, but there's no guarantees.

2121
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Speaker 3: Your thoughts on dvon.

2122
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Speaker 27: Vailey, Yeah, Look, that's another wide receiver room where it's like,

2123
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Speaker 27: it's Troy Franklin one week, you know it's it's the

2124
01:48:52,760 --> 01:48:56,799
Speaker 27: next week it's I mean, there's so many different receivers

2125
01:48:56,880 --> 01:48:59,960
Speaker 27: that go off right, Like I I it's again, it's

2126
01:49:00,080 --> 01:49:02,040
Speaker 27: a dart throw. You're hoping for upside. I think your

2127
01:49:02,080 --> 01:49:04,320
Speaker 27: son is the right mindset and trying to get that

2128
01:49:04,479 --> 01:49:07,920
Speaker 27: upside right. But at the end of the day, probably

2129
01:49:08,040 --> 01:49:10,000
Speaker 27: one of the two guys will go off. I doubt

2130
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Speaker 27: both Valle and Burden go off. You know, that's the

2131
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Speaker 27: only issue with that, which is why I would probably

2132
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Speaker 27: want somebody that can. You know, I know he's playing

2133
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Speaker 27: for the New Orleans Saints. Uh, he used to play

2134
01:49:21,680 --> 01:49:24,000
Speaker 27: for the Broncos, but look he has he has Chris

2135
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Speaker 27: o Lave there. Again, I don't know why I brought

2136
01:49:27,520 --> 01:49:29,160
Speaker 27: up Troy Franklin. I was thinking of Chris o Lave.

2137
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Speaker 2: There are other guys we don't know is going to start,

2138
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Speaker 2: you think he can because if a Lab is out,

2139
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Speaker 2: Vailey would be the he'd be the guy.

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Speaker 27: He'd be the guy for sure, right if and you

2141
01:49:40,560 --> 01:49:43,200
Speaker 27: got Tyler Schucke at quarterback, and Juan Johnson's pretty good,

2142
01:49:43,240 --> 01:49:45,439
Speaker 27: they use him. And I mentioned Devin Neil as well,

2143
01:49:45,840 --> 01:49:47,920
Speaker 27: who they use out of the backfield. So even if

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01:49:47,960 --> 01:49:50,519
Speaker 27: Olave doesn't play, there's no guarantee that Vala is a

2145
01:49:50,560 --> 01:49:53,720
Speaker 27: big game. It's likely he gets the targets. But again,

2146
01:49:53,760 --> 01:49:56,080
Speaker 27: you get a quarterback that's young, even against the very

2147
01:49:56,160 --> 01:49:58,439
Speaker 27: poor pass defense, you never know with these things. But

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01:49:58,760 --> 01:50:00,760
Speaker 27: I'm hoping for him to have big game for your

2149
01:50:00,800 --> 01:50:01,400
Speaker 27: son's sake.

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Speaker 2: So it's he doesn't need to win Sunday for the

2151
01:50:05,960 --> 01:50:08,040
Speaker 2: way it shook out, he told me he's already got

2152
01:50:08,120 --> 01:50:10,720
Speaker 2: to buy next week. He's already won the league. I mean,

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01:50:10,760 --> 01:50:15,160
Speaker 2: there may be some points consideration. He doesn't let Chris

2154
01:50:15,240 --> 01:50:17,519
Speaker 2: Godwin because he had him. He good got Godwin, He

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01:50:17,560 --> 01:50:19,439
Speaker 2: had him on his league like three years ago and

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01:50:19,479 --> 01:50:21,960
Speaker 2: he had to worst the season ever, and that kind

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01:50:22,000 --> 01:50:24,479
Speaker 2: of stuck with him. You know, he kind of can't

2158
01:50:24,560 --> 01:50:27,920
Speaker 2: kind of gets that out of your mind. So look,

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01:50:28,200 --> 01:50:30,800
Speaker 2: he doesn't need to win Sunday, and I think it's

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01:50:30,840 --> 01:50:33,120
Speaker 2: a situation where he's trying to figure out what he's

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01:50:33,120 --> 01:50:36,559
Speaker 2: gonna do two weeks from now. But you know, happens

2162
01:50:37,320 --> 01:50:40,200
Speaker 2: he kind of got lucky too, because he's going up

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01:50:40,200 --> 01:50:42,719
Speaker 2: against the guy who had four players Thursday night.

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01:50:46,479 --> 01:50:48,040
Speaker 3: Dallas Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 2: He didn't have a huge game, and George Pickens didn't

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01:50:50,920 --> 01:50:53,920
Speaker 2: have a huge game, and a couple other players yet,

2167
01:50:54,360 --> 01:50:56,400
Speaker 2: so they were all projected to get like sixty six points.

2168
01:50:56,400 --> 01:50:58,800
Speaker 2: They got like fifty. So he kind of got lucky there.

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01:50:58,880 --> 01:51:03,000
Speaker 2: Sometimes last thought, you find that the law of averages

2170
01:51:03,120 --> 01:51:05,160
Speaker 2: evens out. Sometimes your team doesn't have a great week,

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01:51:05,200 --> 01:51:06,519
Speaker 2: but then you're playing against the guy who has a

2172
01:51:06,560 --> 01:51:07,280
Speaker 2: down week as well.

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01:51:07,760 --> 01:51:09,360
Speaker 27: Yeah, I mean a lot of it is luck. I mean,

2174
01:51:09,439 --> 01:51:12,559
Speaker 27: one league, I was the highest scorer. I'm in six leagues.

2175
01:51:13,479 --> 01:51:16,080
Speaker 27: One of my records is like I'm gonna miss the playoffs.

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01:51:16,120 --> 01:51:19,160
Speaker 1: It's six and eight or something, and I'm leading the

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01:51:19,240 --> 01:51:21,559
Speaker 1: league in points. It's just bad luck.

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Speaker 27: In another league, I'm middle tier in points, but I'm

2179
01:51:24,439 --> 01:51:28,200
Speaker 27: eleven and two with a buye, you know. So honestly,

2180
01:51:28,320 --> 01:51:31,160
Speaker 27: it's it's just about right time. Guys stepping up at

2181
01:51:31,160 --> 01:51:33,920
Speaker 27: the right time, and hopefully you don't have a playoff

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01:51:33,960 --> 01:51:35,040
Speaker 27: matchup in week eighteen.

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Speaker 2: That's the only thing. That's the thing you just don't know.

2184
01:51:38,880 --> 01:51:40,519
Speaker 2: That's not been My son a couple of years ago

2185
01:51:40,920 --> 01:51:43,120
Speaker 2: had the highest league points made the playoffs, so they

2186
01:51:43,120 --> 01:51:45,080
Speaker 2: got knocked out in the first round. But one of

2187
01:51:45,160 --> 01:51:47,479
Speaker 2: those deals where you know his team would put up

2188
01:51:47,479 --> 01:51:48,960
Speaker 2: one hundred and eighteen, he'd played the one guy who

2189
01:51:48,960 --> 01:51:50,360
Speaker 2: got one hundred and forty that week and the next

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01:51:50,400 --> 01:51:52,760
Speaker 2: week he gets thirty. So it's just just you're there's

2191
01:51:52,800 --> 01:51:56,280
Speaker 2: some luck involved, all right, Brandon, appreciate it. The fantasy

2192
01:51:56,320 --> 01:52:00,559
Speaker 2: football is huge, huge, huge in this in this world.

2193
01:52:00,640 --> 01:52:02,479
Speaker 2: And you know you hear Dan Byer talking about his

2194
01:52:02,560 --> 01:52:05,200
Speaker 2: team and Mike Carmer and those guys. This is something

2195
01:52:05,280 --> 01:52:08,400
Speaker 2: that's that's quite the phenomenon, and it's easy to get

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01:52:08,439 --> 01:52:10,640
Speaker 2: caught up and do it really is. By the way,

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Speaker 2: for the best pregame show every weekend, be sure to

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Speaker 2: up until kickoff for all the best plays and up

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Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio and the.

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Speaker 3: iHeart Radio app.

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Speaker 2: Coming up well top of the hour, I'm going to

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01:52:36,000 --> 01:52:41,120
Speaker 2: give you my twelve team projection as to not who

2208
01:52:41,200 --> 01:52:44,160
Speaker 2: I'd vote for, but what I think the What I

2209
01:52:44,280 --> 01:52:50,400
Speaker 2: think the committee. I hate that committee. Really, they're stupid.

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01:52:50,720 --> 01:52:54,000
Speaker 2: Sorry I said it. It makes zero sense to me.

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01:52:54,320 --> 01:52:57,439
Speaker 2: If you're going to have a committee, get different committee people.

2212
01:52:57,560 --> 01:52:59,280
Speaker 2: I just don't like the way they conduct their business.

2213
01:52:59,439 --> 01:53:03,920
Speaker 2: I think toward another Made for TV Invitational tournament. But

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01:53:04,040 --> 01:53:06,040
Speaker 2: here's what I wanted to share with you coming up.

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01:53:06,880 --> 01:53:10,400
Speaker 2: If the ACC get shut out of this tournament, remember

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01:53:10,520 --> 01:53:12,920
Speaker 2: Virginia lost, I don't know if Miami's getting in.

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01:53:13,160 --> 01:53:13,880
Speaker 3: I don't.

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01:53:15,280 --> 01:53:16,800
Speaker 2: I'd put him in, but I don't know if they're

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01:53:16,800 --> 01:53:23,000
Speaker 2: getting in, what will it cost the ACC. This is big, big,

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01:53:23,479 --> 01:53:24,200
Speaker 2: big business.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what that number is. Coming up.

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Speaker 2: I'm Bernie Friderick coming to your line from the Las

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Speaker 2: Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios. Keep it locked. You're listening

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Speaker 2: to the Bernie Fraddle Show.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: All right, back in the Bernie Fraddle Show Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio coming to life from the Las Vegas Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio studios. We are are about seven hours and ten

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01:53:48,280 --> 01:53:53,880
Speaker 2: minutes away from the committee announcing the twelve team college

2230
01:53:53,880 --> 01:53:56,920
Speaker 2: Football Playoff field, which I once again I didn't think

2231
01:53:56,920 --> 01:53:59,120
Speaker 2: I'd do this when he went from four teams to twelve,

2232
01:54:00,040 --> 01:54:05,680
Speaker 2: calling it the made for TV Invitational. Again, if you

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01:54:06,040 --> 01:54:09,640
Speaker 2: are a fan of the ACC, if you are an

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01:54:09,720 --> 01:54:13,600
Speaker 2: executive with the ACC and ACC team, anything involving the

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01:54:13,680 --> 01:54:19,200
Speaker 2: ACC are a casual. As they say, you're not probably

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01:54:19,320 --> 01:54:23,519
Speaker 2: sleeping well this evening, they're bracing.

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Speaker 3: These are the reality.

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01:54:25,280 --> 01:54:29,519
Speaker 2: If the ACC is shut out of the college Football Playoff,

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01:54:30,360 --> 01:54:32,960
Speaker 2: they stand and lose upwards of one hundred and sixteen

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Speaker 2: million dollars in payoffs.

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Speaker 3: So let me break this down.

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01:54:36,480 --> 01:54:40,320
Speaker 2: Last year, Notre Dame made about twenty million dollars from

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01:54:40,360 --> 01:54:41,560
Speaker 2: the College Football Playoff.

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01:54:42,680 --> 01:54:47,360
Speaker 3: This year, the entire ACC could end up with zip, zilch, nada.

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01:54:48,760 --> 01:54:54,360
Speaker 2: That's because I am not predicting this and I wouldn't

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01:54:54,400 --> 01:54:56,920
Speaker 2: leave Miami out, But I will say this, there is

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01:54:57,040 --> 01:55:01,400
Speaker 2: a live possibility that the ACC doesn't place a single

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01:55:01,480 --> 01:55:06,400
Speaker 2: team in this season's twelfteen playoff bracket. It's already the

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01:55:06,440 --> 01:55:10,600
Speaker 2: perfect storms already underway. Duke an unranked Duke team a game,

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Speaker 2: feisty Duke team upset number seventeen Virginia Saturday night in

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Speaker 2: the a SEC Championship game.

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Speaker 9: And so.

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01:55:19,440 --> 01:55:23,600
Speaker 2: It's likely or certainly very possible, not a single team

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01:55:24,160 --> 01:55:27,320
Speaker 2: from this powerful conference will make the football playoff, and

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Speaker 2: that what will happen to group of six teams will

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Speaker 2: now not predict Again, I'm just saying this is the possibility.

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Speaker 2: If that were to happen, what's at stake about one

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Speaker 2: hundred and sixteen million dollars in performance based college football

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Speaker 2: playoff revenue distribution that the ACC would have no chance

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Speaker 2: of earning. All Right, conferences receive about four million for

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01:55:54,360 --> 01:55:57,720
Speaker 2: each team that ultimately makes the college football playoffs, with

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Speaker 2: further payoffs as each round.

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Speaker 3: Goes on.

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Speaker 2: So, if you qualify for the college football playoff, twelve

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01:56:06,120 --> 01:56:09,760
Speaker 2: teams get four million each. Right, if you make it

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01:56:09,920 --> 01:56:14,880
Speaker 2: to the quarterfinals, eight teams get four million each. If

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01:56:14,920 --> 01:56:19,120
Speaker 2: you make it to the semi finals, four teams get

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Speaker 2: six million dollars each, And if you make it to

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Speaker 2: the national championship game, two teams get six million dollars each,

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Speaker 2: So right there, that's how Notre Dame got their twenty

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Speaker 2: million last year. Now, there's no extra monetary prize for

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Speaker 2: winning the College Football Playoff, but each team would receive

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Speaker 2: three million to cover expenses for each round. Now, while

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Speaker 2: the four highest ranked conference champions no longer receive top

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01:56:44,280 --> 01:56:47,080
Speaker 2: seeds in first round bys, they're still going to be

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Speaker 2: guaranteed eight million for the respective leagues, even if they

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01:56:50,360 --> 01:56:54,560
Speaker 2: lose their first round matchup. Okay, if Virginia would have

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01:56:54,720 --> 01:56:57,400
Speaker 2: beaten Duke, they would have gotten in and they would

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Speaker 2: have been in line to earn that automatic eight million

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Speaker 2: dollar payoff for the a SEC as the fourth highest

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Speaker 2: ranked conference champion.

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Speaker 3: But Duke won. Duke won, and so now the American.

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Speaker 2: Conference is set apparently allegedly, it looks like for their

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01:57:13,640 --> 01:57:17,720
Speaker 2: eight million dollars pay day because Tulane, who's ranked twentieth,

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01:57:18,040 --> 01:57:23,600
Speaker 2: beat North Texas in Friday's game and James Madison beat

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Speaker 2: Troy in Friday's game also, so they'll be the beneficiaries

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Speaker 2: of what the ACC might not be. Now, Listen, there's

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Speaker 2: a small chance the selection committee could decide to move

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01:57:36,960 --> 01:57:39,840
Speaker 2: Miami up high enough and send these final rankings to

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Speaker 2: get him in that large bid.

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Speaker 3: They've only got two losses.

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01:57:43,320 --> 01:57:45,600
Speaker 2: I think they deserve to be in. They beat Notre Dame.

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01:57:46,440 --> 01:57:48,840
Speaker 2: I've never seen a situation people think Notre Damer is

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01:57:48,880 --> 01:57:52,760
Speaker 2: getting in. So I've never seen a situation where two

2295
01:57:52,760 --> 01:57:56,560
Speaker 2: teams with the identical record played during the regular season

2296
01:57:56,600 --> 01:57:59,160
Speaker 2: and the winner stayed home in the loser advanced.

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Speaker 3: But we'll see you're listening to the.

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Speaker 2: Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio. That's right, I

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Speaker 2: heard the man Bernie Frattle Show keeps rolling right along.

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Speaker 2: My name is Bernie Frattleick Kenny Lyon from the Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio studios here in Las Vegas, will take up

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Speaker 2: to three am Pacific six am Eastern, six hours and

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01:58:24,960 --> 01:58:30,720
Speaker 2: fifty nine minutes away from Football's version of Selection Sunday.

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Speaker 2: You know, there's an little story about a gentleman walking

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01:58:34,920 --> 01:58:39,560
Speaker 2: along the beach and he stumbles upon a little genie

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01:58:39,600 --> 01:58:41,400
Speaker 2: in a bottle. He thinks it's a genie in a bottle.

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01:58:41,480 --> 01:58:43,720
Speaker 2: It's one of those little bottles, and he rubs it

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Speaker 2: and out comes the bottle and he says, you are

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Speaker 2: granted one wish.

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Speaker 3: And he says, are are you a genie?

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01:58:49,480 --> 01:58:52,440
Speaker 2: He says no, I'm God, really, He goes, yeah, and

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01:58:52,480 --> 01:58:55,760
Speaker 2: you're granted one wish, but only one wish? He said, Well,

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01:58:56,000 --> 01:58:58,080
Speaker 2: I'd really like to go to Hawaii, but I'm afraid

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01:58:58,120 --> 01:59:01,600
Speaker 2: to fly. You please build me a highway so I

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01:59:01,640 --> 01:59:05,880
Speaker 2: could drive to Hawaii. That's just wow. I never had

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01:59:05,920 --> 01:59:09,040
Speaker 2: that one before. I don't show. Is there anything else

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01:59:09,080 --> 01:59:11,000
Speaker 2: I could help you with? He says, yeah? Could you

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Speaker 2: please tell me who the college football Selection Pity Committee

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01:59:14,640 --> 01:59:18,520
Speaker 2: is gonna pick on Sunday? God said, you want that highway?

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Speaker 2: And two lanes are four lanes? Does any of us

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Speaker 2: really know how this is gonna work? It was supposed

2322
01:59:28,160 --> 01:59:31,080
Speaker 2: to be easier, but you know it was supposed to

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01:59:31,120 --> 01:59:33,400
Speaker 2: me to decide it on the field. Head to head

2324
01:59:33,400 --> 01:59:37,160
Speaker 2: is supposed to matter. Yet I've seen many projections where

2325
01:59:37,280 --> 01:59:41,000
Speaker 2: Notre Dame is in and Miami's not. They're both tend

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Speaker 2: and two, and yet Miami be Notre Dame. Now, before

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01:59:46,920 --> 01:59:49,000
Speaker 2: I get to what I think is gonna happen, and

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01:59:49,440 --> 01:59:53,600
Speaker 2: believe me, this is a crapshoot, I can tell you this.

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01:59:53,760 --> 01:59:54,520
Speaker 3: I know for sure.

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Speaker 2: There are three teams that aren't sleeping tonight Alabama, Miami

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02:00:00,840 --> 02:00:07,280
Speaker 2: and UH and New and UH and Notre Dame. One

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02:00:07,280 --> 02:00:09,720
Speaker 2: of them is getting left out. One of them is

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Speaker 2: getting left out. In Texas, I know that, Kurt uh

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02:00:14,360 --> 02:00:18,520
Speaker 2: you know, the coaches is covetching and they're a three

2335
02:00:18,560 --> 02:00:20,840
Speaker 2: loss team. They typically don't let three loss teams in.

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Speaker 2: That's why I see it, And it would be a

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02:00:25,800 --> 02:00:30,560
Speaker 2: shame because Alabama went to the SEC Championship game, had

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02:00:30,560 --> 02:00:32,720
Speaker 2: already beaten Georgia earlier in the year, but now they

2339
02:00:32,760 --> 02:00:34,800
Speaker 2: got their third loss, and now all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: they're gonna remember that Florida State loss Week one yet

2341
02:00:39,160 --> 02:00:40,920
Speaker 2: dominated by a team unit up five and seven. But

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Speaker 2: I digress. Let's so let's get to it.

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Speaker 9: This is the way.

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Speaker 2: This is what I think the committee will do. Indiana won,

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Speaker 2: Ohio State to Georgia three, Texas Tech four, Oregon fifth,

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Speaker 2: Mississippi sixth, Texas A and m seventh, Oklahoma eighth, Miami ninth,

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame tenth to Lane eleventh in James Madison twelfth.

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Speaker 3: I am hoping, and I met the committee is too.

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Speaker 2: That Miami plays Notre Dame again, because there's been a

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Speaker 2: lot of backtalk going between the schools and on Twitter

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02:01:12,360 --> 02:01:16,280
Speaker 2: and everybody's getting involved, and so that makes it to

2352
02:01:16,360 --> 02:01:22,800
Speaker 2: made for TV event, And of course everything unfolded just

2353
02:01:22,880 --> 02:01:25,040
Speaker 2: the way those two schools would want it to. Because

2354
02:01:25,120 --> 02:01:29,960
Speaker 2: BYU got smoked, they're not getting in. And then Alabama

2355
02:01:30,040 --> 02:01:33,040
Speaker 2: got smoked, which opens the door. And then wouldn't you

2356
02:01:33,080 --> 02:01:36,080
Speaker 2: know what, Duke beat Virginia, So Virginia getting in. So

2357
02:01:36,240 --> 02:01:39,960
Speaker 2: we'll see where it goes with that scenario. The first

2358
02:01:40,000 --> 02:01:43,080
Speaker 2: team out would be Alabama and the second team out

2359
02:01:43,120 --> 02:01:48,800
Speaker 2: would be Texas. Now, again, if Alabama gets in, I

2360
02:01:48,840 --> 02:01:50,600
Speaker 2: don't know who they get in over, but you have

2361
02:01:50,680 --> 02:01:52,440
Speaker 2: a three loss team over a two loss team.

2362
02:01:53,880 --> 02:01:54,600
Speaker 3: Just saying.

2363
02:01:56,840 --> 02:01:58,760
Speaker 2: There's just no easy way to do this because there's

2364
02:01:58,800 --> 02:02:03,960
Speaker 2: no structures. Still very subjective as much as it's objective.

2365
02:02:04,360 --> 02:02:07,760
Speaker 2: Under this scenario, Indiana, Ohio State. Indiana would be your

2366
02:02:07,800 --> 02:02:10,520
Speaker 2: Big Ten champ automatic bid. Ohio State would be your

2367
02:02:10,600 --> 02:02:15,520
Speaker 2: number two seed. They're an at large bid. Georgia would

2368
02:02:15,520 --> 02:02:18,200
Speaker 2: be your number three seed. They're the SEC champion automatic bid.

2369
02:02:18,560 --> 02:02:21,960
Speaker 2: In Texas Tech you're Big twelve champion. They'd be fourth

2370
02:02:22,040 --> 02:02:25,440
Speaker 2: an automatic bid. So your first round matchups those four

2371
02:02:25,480 --> 02:02:29,560
Speaker 2: teams would get buys. Now, your first round matchup would

2372
02:02:29,600 --> 02:02:33,240
Speaker 2: be James Madison. They were the Sun Belt champion an

2373
02:02:33,240 --> 02:02:39,520
Speaker 2: automatic bid. They're the twelfth seed at Oregon the fifth

2374
02:02:39,560 --> 02:02:43,040
Speaker 2: seed as an at large. Tulane would be eleventh. They're

2375
02:02:43,080 --> 02:02:46,800
Speaker 2: the American champion, they get an automatic bid at Mississippi

2376
02:02:46,920 --> 02:02:51,000
Speaker 2: number six, tenth rank Notre Dame an at large bid

2377
02:02:51,160 --> 02:02:54,080
Speaker 2: would have to visit Texas, A and m who receives

2378
02:02:54,080 --> 02:02:56,840
Speaker 2: in a large bid. And finally number nine the Miami

2379
02:02:56,960 --> 02:03:01,520
Speaker 2: Hurricanes at the number eight Oklahoma Sooners.

2380
02:03:02,680 --> 02:03:06,520
Speaker 3: This is all speculation by me. What do I think this?

2381
02:03:07,000 --> 02:03:08,400
Speaker 3: What do I think the committee is going to do?

2382
02:03:08,800 --> 02:03:11,080
Speaker 2: I just don't know. I do know one of those

2383
02:03:11,200 --> 02:03:14,160
Speaker 2: three teams I mentioned, Miami, Notre Dame, er Alabama is

2384
02:03:14,240 --> 02:03:18,160
Speaker 2: getting left out. I truly believe that. And would any

2385
02:03:18,200 --> 02:03:21,320
Speaker 2: one of those teams be Tulane and or James Madison. Yeah,

2386
02:03:22,000 --> 02:03:24,480
Speaker 2: but we were told we were going to create a tournament.

2387
02:03:24,920 --> 02:03:26,960
Speaker 2: You know, we saw this in Cincinnati few years ago.

2388
02:03:26,960 --> 02:03:29,480
Speaker 2: They were undefeated. It's not whether or not those teams

2389
02:03:29,520 --> 02:03:33,640
Speaker 2: have a chance or no one expects them to truly

2390
02:03:34,400 --> 02:03:37,160
Speaker 2: make real noise or advance in the tournament, but give

2391
02:03:37,200 --> 02:03:40,760
Speaker 2: them a chance. What other what other structure in any

2392
02:03:40,800 --> 02:03:42,920
Speaker 2: sport around the world or in the United States, whether

2393
02:03:44,280 --> 02:03:47,360
Speaker 2: it's professional or collegiate. And let's face it, this is

2394
02:03:47,400 --> 02:03:50,440
Speaker 2: basically becoming more of a college football is becoming much

2395
02:03:50,440 --> 02:03:54,680
Speaker 2: more of a professional football model now, much more resembles

2396
02:03:54,760 --> 02:03:59,160
Speaker 2: that than any old college model. That you play your season,

2397
02:03:59,200 --> 02:04:01,800
Speaker 2: you can go and defeed it have you cannot have

2398
02:04:01,880 --> 02:04:04,520
Speaker 2: any designs on winning a national championship or even playing

2399
02:04:04,520 --> 02:04:06,080
Speaker 2: in a tournament for national championship.

2400
02:04:06,400 --> 02:04:09,000
Speaker 3: What's the logic in that you go back before.

2401
02:04:08,760 --> 02:04:10,760
Speaker 2: In nineteen ninety nine, it was based on a committee

2402
02:04:10,760 --> 02:04:13,400
Speaker 2: who would get into smoke fild room, put their heads together,

2403
02:04:13,520 --> 02:04:14,680
Speaker 2: make a rock pile and vote.

2404
02:04:15,480 --> 02:04:16,600
Speaker 3: I will never forget this.

2405
02:04:17,400 --> 02:04:21,720
Speaker 2: The nineteen seventy eight USC Trojans the best college team

2406
02:04:21,760 --> 02:04:24,520
Speaker 2: I ever saw. Let me tell you how good they were.

2407
02:04:25,600 --> 02:04:28,080
Speaker 2: On that team, they put forty two guys that ultimately

2408
02:04:28,080 --> 02:04:31,120
Speaker 2: would play in the NFL. Not all were stars, but

2409
02:04:31,200 --> 02:04:34,080
Speaker 2: they they got to the league. They had two Heisman

2410
02:04:34,120 --> 02:04:37,160
Speaker 2: Trophy winners in the backfield. Marcus Sarlo was the blocking

2411
02:04:37,240 --> 02:04:39,960
Speaker 2: back for Charles White. Marcus Allo went on to win

2412
02:04:39,960 --> 02:04:41,800
Speaker 2: the Heisman and run for twenty four hundred yards.

2413
02:04:41,680 --> 02:04:42,240
Speaker 3: Two years later.

2414
02:04:43,120 --> 02:04:46,400
Speaker 2: That was an incredible football team. Coach by John McKay.

2415
02:04:46,640 --> 02:04:49,720
Speaker 2: They went down to Alabama Tuscer loose. The second week

2416
02:04:49,760 --> 02:04:52,760
Speaker 2: in September, one of the most talked about games of

2417
02:04:52,800 --> 02:04:55,160
Speaker 2: the decade, supposed to be the game of the decade.

2418
02:04:55,600 --> 02:04:57,200
Speaker 2: USC was leaning twenty.

2419
02:04:57,000 --> 02:04:59,080
Speaker 3: Four to seven in the fourth quarter.

2420
02:04:59,440 --> 02:05:02,040
Speaker 2: Bama got a excuse me, touchdown sc wins twenty four

2421
02:05:02,080 --> 02:05:04,480
Speaker 2: or fourteen. Yes, he went on to win the Rose

2422
02:05:04,480 --> 02:05:08,880
Speaker 2: Bowl that year they beat Michigan. Do you know some

2423
02:05:09,600 --> 02:05:12,040
Speaker 2: it was between the AP and the UPI. One of them,

2424
02:05:12,120 --> 02:05:14,720
Speaker 2: either the AP or the UPI, had the audacity to

2425
02:05:15,120 --> 02:05:20,080
Speaker 2: vote Alabama number one over USC, even though USC had

2426
02:05:20,120 --> 02:05:25,760
Speaker 2: beaten them soundly, soundly in Alabama. That's how it used

2427
02:05:25,800 --> 02:05:27,800
Speaker 2: to be. No one wants to go back to that.

2428
02:05:29,040 --> 02:05:33,680
Speaker 2: But then now you have this debated, hot debate between

2429
02:05:33,760 --> 02:05:38,120
Speaker 2: two at large spots that's unfolding between again three blue bloods,

2430
02:05:38,160 --> 02:05:42,040
Speaker 2: the ones I just mentioned Notre Dame, Miami, and the

2431
02:05:42,080 --> 02:05:45,240
Speaker 2: Alabama Crimson Tide. Two of the three likely will be

2432
02:05:45,280 --> 02:05:48,920
Speaker 2: the choices nine and ten. Will it be Miami, Will

2433
02:05:48,960 --> 02:05:51,800
Speaker 2: they be one Alabama who gets ased out? And then

2434
02:05:51,800 --> 02:05:54,160
Speaker 2: they go on to tellswold Notre Dame had a resume booster.

2435
02:05:55,400 --> 02:06:00,720
Speaker 2: Why well, while the Hurricanes and fighting Irish for not

2436
02:06:00,880 --> 02:06:04,120
Speaker 2: having to play during championship weekend. Boise State won the

2437
02:06:04,160 --> 02:06:07,560
Speaker 2: Mountain West Championship game, and Notre Dame earlier beat the

2438
02:06:07,640 --> 02:06:12,200
Speaker 2: Broncos this season twenty eight to seven. Okay, but they

2439
02:06:12,280 --> 02:06:14,840
Speaker 2: lost to Miami on the field. Does head to head

2440
02:06:14,880 --> 02:06:22,040
Speaker 2: matter Alabama? We're hearing narratives that the committee they should

2441
02:06:22,040 --> 02:06:24,200
Speaker 2: be very thankful that the committee moved them to number

2442
02:06:24,240 --> 02:06:28,560
Speaker 2: nine last week before the SEC championship game with Georgia.

2443
02:06:29,600 --> 02:06:35,879
Speaker 2: It was some theorized perhaps are built in buffer following Saturday,

2444
02:06:37,280 --> 02:06:45,000
Speaker 2: you know, and their lackluster play. Now it's possible Miami's

2445
02:06:45,040 --> 02:06:47,800
Speaker 2: left out even though they beat Georgia earlier in the year.

2446
02:06:48,720 --> 02:06:52,880
Speaker 2: Or the committee can simply move Alabama back one spot

2447
02:06:52,960 --> 02:06:57,560
Speaker 2: and avoid the Notre Dame Miami dilem altogether. Some models

2448
02:06:57,640 --> 02:07:00,560
Speaker 2: project Alabama to be in the final rankings, just ahead

2449
02:07:00,560 --> 02:07:03,800
Speaker 2: of Miami for the final large spot, and by ceedy

2450
02:07:03,880 --> 02:07:06,800
Speaker 2: Notre Dame in Alabama nine to ten. The committee avoids

2451
02:07:06,840 --> 02:07:09,320
Speaker 2: the regular season rematch in the opening round of the playoff.

2452
02:07:09,920 --> 02:07:13,800
Speaker 2: So again, so do you get the best teams that

2453
02:07:13,960 --> 02:07:17,400
Speaker 2: ranked or is it it made for TV tournament? By

2454
02:07:17,440 --> 02:07:19,880
Speaker 2: the way, Tulane the highest ranked group of five team

2455
02:07:20,720 --> 02:07:23,920
Speaker 2: entering conference championship week and then they just completely poll

2456
02:07:24,000 --> 02:07:26,560
Speaker 2: acts North Texas in the first half, never looked back,

2457
02:07:26,960 --> 02:07:28,960
Speaker 2: and their coach is on his way out, John Sumraw,

2458
02:07:29,000 --> 02:07:30,920
Speaker 2: but he's going to stay outill the end. Good deal.

2459
02:07:31,560 --> 02:07:33,280
Speaker 3: Tulane is on the road.

2460
02:07:33,160 --> 02:07:35,680
Speaker 2: The first round, most likely probably to have to face

2461
02:07:36,280 --> 02:07:39,480
Speaker 2: Oregon and there'll be a double digit underdog. And how

2462
02:07:39,520 --> 02:07:45,400
Speaker 2: about Kurt Signett's prior school and Bob Chesney's headed the ECLA.

2463
02:07:46,400 --> 02:07:49,440
Speaker 2: And you know who would win the game? A five

2464
02:07:49,560 --> 02:07:53,920
Speaker 2: loss Duke team who actually won the ACC title game.

2465
02:07:54,800 --> 02:07:57,960
Speaker 3: I'm mixed up. I thought there was a time, once

2466
02:07:58,040 --> 02:07:59,120
Speaker 3: upon a time where.

2467
02:07:58,960 --> 02:08:01,200
Speaker 2: If you won your conference championship and you were in

2468
02:08:01,200 --> 02:08:05,080
Speaker 2: a Power five conference, you were in an automatic bid,

2469
02:08:05,560 --> 02:08:07,040
Speaker 2: not if your five lost duke team.

2470
02:08:07,440 --> 02:08:09,600
Speaker 3: Would Duke beat that James Madison team?

2471
02:08:10,840 --> 02:08:15,200
Speaker 2: I don't know. You can say that James Madison didn't

2472
02:08:15,200 --> 02:08:19,200
Speaker 2: necessarily pass the eye test in their final Sun Belt

2473
02:08:19,280 --> 02:08:21,600
Speaker 2: championship game against Troy, but they won twelve games this

2474
02:08:21,720 --> 02:08:23,880
Speaker 2: year and that's four more than Duke.

2475
02:08:24,360 --> 02:08:27,120
Speaker 3: The question is see and this is tough.

2476
02:08:27,880 --> 02:08:31,080
Speaker 2: Can you have it both ways? They say that the

2477
02:08:31,280 --> 02:08:35,400
Speaker 2: conference championship games have to matter, and they certainly do.

2478
02:08:35,720 --> 02:08:38,640
Speaker 2: If Alabama would have won and they beat Georgia earlier

2479
02:08:38,680 --> 02:08:40,760
Speaker 2: in the year, So why this is so mind boggling.

2480
02:08:41,520 --> 02:08:44,360
Speaker 2: Alabama was in, you know, entered that game with a

2481
02:08:44,440 --> 02:08:48,800
Speaker 2: ten and two record. Had they beaten Georgia, they'd be

2482
02:08:48,840 --> 02:08:51,680
Speaker 2: eleven and two, so a win would have helped them.

2483
02:08:51,840 --> 02:08:53,960
Speaker 2: I think certainly they'd be in, and also the Georgia

2484
02:08:54,000 --> 02:08:56,560
Speaker 2: would be in, it won't be eleven to two. But

2485
02:08:56,680 --> 02:09:00,400
Speaker 2: if the conference championship games matter, does that mean if

2486
02:09:00,440 --> 02:09:03,880
Speaker 2: Alabama against her third loss, that matters too, Because you

2487
02:09:03,960 --> 02:09:05,560
Speaker 2: can't have it both ways. You can't be helped by

2488
02:09:05,600 --> 02:09:08,760
Speaker 2: a loss or help by a win, but hurt but

2489
02:09:08,920 --> 02:09:14,120
Speaker 2: not hurt by a loss. Now, the team on the

2490
02:09:14,160 --> 02:09:16,320
Speaker 2: outside looking in will probably go to a you know,

2491
02:09:17,400 --> 02:09:20,920
Speaker 2: a prime bowl game, but they're not gonna like it.

2492
02:09:22,080 --> 02:09:22,840
Speaker 2: They're not gonna like it.

2493
02:09:23,240 --> 02:09:26,320
Speaker 3: And you know, we've got the obvious ones up top.

2494
02:09:26,440 --> 02:09:27,440
Speaker 3: Give it Texas Tech.

2495
02:09:27,800 --> 02:09:31,800
Speaker 2: They're a top fourteen, first twelve one season in school history,

2496
02:09:32,000 --> 02:09:36,680
Speaker 2: a conference championship. They will not move ahead of Big

2497
02:09:36,760 --> 02:09:39,480
Speaker 2: Ten runner up Ohio State in Sunday's final rankings. I

2498
02:09:39,720 --> 02:09:43,360
Speaker 2: believe Texas Tech will be fourth. I believe Georgia will

2499
02:09:43,360 --> 02:09:46,160
Speaker 2: be third. They'll move into the number three slot the

2500
02:09:46,360 --> 02:09:50,880
Speaker 2: SEC champions, especially after their beatdown of Alabama on a

2501
02:09:50,960 --> 02:09:54,160
Speaker 2: big stage in Alabama Atlanta with twenty one to nothing

2502
02:09:54,560 --> 02:09:57,280
Speaker 2: at one point and the events their only loss of

2503
02:09:57,320 --> 02:10:00,240
Speaker 2: the season against a good, not a great Crimson Tide team.

2504
02:10:00,280 --> 02:10:02,480
Speaker 2: They're just not I think Kalin the board's doing a

2505
02:10:02,480 --> 02:10:05,320
Speaker 2: good job. It's just brutal there, man, It's just brutal.

2506
02:10:05,720 --> 02:10:08,160
Speaker 2: But do they look like Alabama to you? They don't

2507
02:10:08,240 --> 02:10:09,480
Speaker 2: run the ball the way they used to. They don't

2508
02:10:09,480 --> 02:10:12,360
Speaker 2: stop to run the way they used to. Alabama's lone

2509
02:10:12,400 --> 02:10:16,120
Speaker 2: score came in the fourth quarter. They didn't play great

2510
02:10:16,160 --> 02:10:19,960
Speaker 2: down the stretch. But listen and their three loss team,

2511
02:10:20,440 --> 02:10:22,240
Speaker 2: I don't know what the damn committee's gonna do. What

2512
02:10:22,280 --> 02:10:24,640
Speaker 2: I just gave you is what I think they're gonna do.

2513
02:10:25,720 --> 02:10:27,880
Speaker 2: And I think they're because they're a three loss team,

2514
02:10:28,040 --> 02:10:29,640
Speaker 2: they're gonna be left out. And I think and I

2515
02:10:29,760 --> 02:10:31,920
Speaker 2: know Texas is going to be left out. Well, I

2516
02:10:31,960 --> 02:10:35,200
Speaker 2: don't know anything, but I would be shocked if Texas

2517
02:10:35,240 --> 02:10:38,600
Speaker 2: were in. All right, Ohio State will be number two. Look,

2518
02:10:38,640 --> 02:10:41,000
Speaker 2: they won sixteen games in a row. They got through

2519
02:10:41,000 --> 02:10:43,240
Speaker 2: the gauntlet of last season's playoff. As a low seed,

2520
02:10:43,560 --> 02:10:45,080
Speaker 2: the Buckeyes are going to be one of the teams

2521
02:10:45,120 --> 02:10:47,320
Speaker 2: to really beat this time around.

2522
02:10:47,800 --> 02:10:49,400
Speaker 3: They almost got through unscathed.

2523
02:10:49,760 --> 02:10:52,960
Speaker 2: Losing Indiana hurts, but the Buckeyes, hey, guess what, they

2524
02:10:53,080 --> 02:10:56,440
Speaker 2: kind of been here before, Remember they were They lost

2525
02:10:56,480 --> 02:10:59,320
Speaker 2: to Michigan last year and then Ohio State Michigan game,

2526
02:10:59,440 --> 02:11:02,240
Speaker 2: didn't get to the Big Ten title game. And yet

2527
02:11:02,320 --> 02:11:04,080
Speaker 2: look what they did in the playoffs one for all

2528
02:11:04,120 --> 02:11:07,280
Speaker 2: four games by a cumulus sixty points. Give it up

2529
02:11:07,320 --> 02:11:11,840
Speaker 2: to the Indiana Hoosiers. What an incredible finish. There's no

2530
02:11:12,080 --> 02:11:16,520
Speaker 2: question that Indiana will be number one six hours and

2531
02:11:16,600 --> 02:11:18,920
Speaker 2: forty six minutes from now when they start to announce

2532
02:11:19,000 --> 02:11:23,200
Speaker 2: this over Ohile State their wins over ranked competition.

2533
02:11:23,400 --> 02:11:24,680
Speaker 3: This was their best win of the year.

2534
02:11:24,720 --> 02:11:29,520
Speaker 2: They dominated Ohio State frankly outgained them Defensively, they were spectacular,

2535
02:11:29,840 --> 02:11:35,320
Speaker 2: Fernando Mendoza was spectacular. And yes, after all the shoutings

2536
02:11:35,360 --> 02:11:40,560
Speaker 2: since mid August, Indiana is currently college football's lone unbeaten

2537
02:11:40,680 --> 02:11:44,760
Speaker 2: team entering the postseason. After they knockoff defending champ Ohio

2538
02:11:44,880 --> 02:11:48,200
Speaker 2: State in the Big Ten Showdown game, they will have

2539
02:11:49,560 --> 02:11:53,160
Speaker 2: They will have the top billing. But at the end

2540
02:11:53,160 --> 02:11:56,480
Speaker 2: of the day, and it's a TV show that's frankly

2541
02:11:56,600 --> 02:11:59,360
Speaker 2: not really entertaining. Just tell us who's in. But they

2542
02:11:59,400 --> 02:12:01,000
Speaker 2: have a tendency to drag it out and milk it

2543
02:12:01,080 --> 02:12:05,200
Speaker 2: for all it's worth. The college football Playoff Selection Committee,

2544
02:12:06,120 --> 02:12:08,520
Speaker 2: it's not going to be easy this weekend or whatever

2545
02:12:08,560 --> 02:12:11,520
Speaker 2: they're doing. Maybe they're working right now deciding those final

2546
02:12:11,600 --> 02:12:15,600
Speaker 2: at large spots because they're coming out a various conference

2547
02:12:16,000 --> 02:12:19,560
Speaker 2: championship game results and Alabama had a one sided loss

2548
02:12:19,600 --> 02:12:22,919
Speaker 2: to Georgia kind of unexpected, I thought, kind of intriguing,

2549
02:12:23,720 --> 02:12:25,920
Speaker 2: and it's an additional data point for the committee. Will

2550
02:12:26,000 --> 02:12:31,440
Speaker 2: they dock Alabama for their eyeball test against Georgia in

2551
02:12:31,520 --> 02:12:33,920
Speaker 2: favor of Miami for their final spot?

2552
02:12:34,760 --> 02:12:36,160
Speaker 3: But they would be devaluating the.

2553
02:12:36,240 --> 02:12:38,800
Speaker 2: SEC championship game for the first time in playoff history

2554
02:12:39,360 --> 02:12:43,160
Speaker 2: if Alabama were left out entirely in favor of either

2555
02:12:43,200 --> 02:12:45,600
Speaker 2: the number ten or ten spots going to Notre Dame

2556
02:12:45,680 --> 02:12:50,120
Speaker 2: and or Miami. But again, and I'm repeating myself, no

2557
02:12:50,360 --> 02:12:54,680
Speaker 2: team in playoff history has reached the postseason as a

2558
02:12:54,760 --> 02:12:57,920
Speaker 2: three loss at large nominee, nor has it at large

2559
02:12:57,960 --> 02:13:00,120
Speaker 2: team lost multiple games by ten or more points in

2560
02:13:00,160 --> 02:13:05,960
Speaker 2: the season, and Alabama did both. So there is precedent

2561
02:13:06,040 --> 02:13:09,720
Speaker 2: for the committee dropping a team that was idle for

2562
02:13:09,880 --> 02:13:12,880
Speaker 2: no reason. And this goes back ten years. I'll never

2563
02:13:12,960 --> 02:13:14,600
Speaker 2: forget this. This is what you had. The four team

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Speaker 2: Made for TV Playoff Tournament TCU drop for number three

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Speaker 2: to number six in the final weeks in the final

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Speaker 2: Sunday morning after beating Iowa State fifty five to three.

2567
02:13:26,760 --> 02:13:29,160
Speaker 2: The Big Twelve did not have a conference championship game

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02:13:29,200 --> 02:13:31,840
Speaker 2: that year Florida State and Ohio State. That was the

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02:13:31,880 --> 02:13:36,120
Speaker 2: first ever four team playoff made the season. If you recall,

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Speaker 2: I believe Ohio State lost their first game of the

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Speaker 2: year that year Virginia, but they went on to crush

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Speaker 2: Oregon in the championship game and that was Florida State

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Speaker 2: Ohio State, and you know that was their first the

2574
02:13:50,240 --> 02:13:54,080
Speaker 2: first ever four team playoff. So we're meandering here, which

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02:13:54,160 --> 02:13:56,720
Speaker 2: is what I don't want to do, but this is

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02:13:56,760 --> 02:13:59,960
Speaker 2: what we're left with. We thought, well, things being slopted

2577
02:14:00,160 --> 02:14:04,080
Speaker 2: the conference championship games, and you know it was really

2578
02:14:04,400 --> 02:14:07,720
Speaker 2: originally written up as Power five conferences, but the PAC

2579
02:14:07,800 --> 02:14:10,400
Speaker 2: twelve disbanded, so it's Power four. Then group of four.

2580
02:14:10,560 --> 02:14:13,960
Speaker 2: Then at large and depending on where you're ranked still,

2581
02:14:14,640 --> 02:14:17,040
Speaker 2: you may have a conference champion left out. You may

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02:14:17,080 --> 02:14:18,960
Speaker 2: have a three loss team get in. You may have

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02:14:19,080 --> 02:14:21,840
Speaker 2: a team that lost to their opponent. You both have

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02:14:21,960 --> 02:14:23,720
Speaker 2: ten or two records, and the team and loss gets

2585
02:14:23,760 --> 02:14:25,680
Speaker 2: in and the team in one stays home. Any of

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02:14:25,720 --> 02:14:29,520
Speaker 2: those scenarios as possible. You want that freeway highway and

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02:14:29,560 --> 02:14:31,800
Speaker 2: four lanes or two lanes. Because I don't know what

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Speaker 2: we're getting. I just gave you my opinion that in

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Speaker 2: How right back of the Bernie Fradile Show, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Come to line from the Las Vegas studios of Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio. Take after three am, six am Pacific. We're

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02:15:36,120 --> 02:15:39,120
Speaker 2: just about six hours and thirty four minutes away from

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02:15:39,160 --> 02:15:41,800
Speaker 2: the selection committee. And who knows what the hell they're

2610
02:15:41,800 --> 02:15:43,680
Speaker 2: gonna come up at the end of the show. I

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02:15:43,760 --> 02:15:46,600
Speaker 2: haven't thought about one particular team. No one's really talking about.

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Speaker 12: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And when I share this with you, you might think, yeah,

2614
02:15:51,120 --> 02:15:55,160
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, they're lurking real quickly. The NFL

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02:15:55,320 --> 02:15:57,800
Speaker 2: ratings just continue to go through the roof, and the

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02:15:57,920 --> 02:16:02,480
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving ratings showed no ceiling. They shouted all prior records

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02:16:02,520 --> 02:16:06,040
Speaker 2: for Thanksgiving Day of viewership last week, and there's no

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Speaker 2: ceiling to what's possible on the holidays. The league posted

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02:16:09,520 --> 02:16:12,880
Speaker 2: an average audience of almost forty five million viewers across

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02:16:12,960 --> 02:16:14,960
Speaker 2: the three Thanksgiving games.

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Speaker 3: That's a massive.

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Speaker 2: Thirty percent jump from the prior aggregate record set just

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Speaker 2: last year. Now, the Chiefs and Cowboys fifty eight million viewers.

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02:16:27,760 --> 02:16:29,800
Speaker 2: That set a record for the most watched game in

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Speaker 2: the regular season in history, and almost matched the AFC

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Speaker 2: Conference Championship game last year between the Bills and the Chiefs.

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02:16:37,959 --> 02:16:40,720
Speaker 2: Even the earlier afternoon game between the Packers and Lions

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02:16:41,480 --> 02:16:44,120
Speaker 2: forty eight million viewers. In the primetime matchup between the

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02:16:44,120 --> 02:16:46,039
Speaker 2: Bengals and Ravens not so much.

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Speaker 3: Twenty eight million.

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02:16:47,000 --> 02:16:51,760
Speaker 2: But those all set new milestones for their respective broadcast windows.

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02:16:52,959 --> 02:16:57,480
Speaker 3: But the NFL they want more. The execs want more.

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02:16:58,440 --> 02:17:02,240
Speaker 2: Fox Sports President of insight Mike Mobilhill said, quote, it

2634
02:17:02,280 --> 02:17:04,800
Speaker 2: was that long ago we thought one hundred million viewers

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02:17:04,800 --> 02:17:06,360
Speaker 2: for the Super Bowls about as as it could go.

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02:17:06,920 --> 02:17:10,480
Speaker 2: Now we're already approaching one hundred and thirty million new heights.

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Speaker 2: This isn't happening by accident, though the NFL has manipulated

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02:17:16,120 --> 02:17:18,200
Speaker 2: things in a very shrewd way. For instance, they do

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Speaker 2: a lot of strategic scheduling. The NFL moved the start

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Speaker 2: time of the Packers' Lions game by half an hour

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Speaker 2: to one o'clock Eastern Time, and they were rewarded with

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02:17:28,160 --> 02:17:31,480
Speaker 2: an audience even though it was less than the following

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02:17:31,600 --> 02:17:36,360
Speaker 2: game between the Cowboys and Chiefs, easily beat the draw

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02:17:36,520 --> 02:17:39,840
Speaker 2: for any other regular season game in history. Now, part

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02:17:39,920 --> 02:17:43,440
Speaker 2: of that shift owed here that word prior analytics, which

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02:17:43,480 --> 02:17:49,640
Speaker 2: were showing strong viewership spikes after two thirty pm last

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02:17:49,720 --> 02:17:52,040
Speaker 2: year's Thanksgiving game of the Lions and that early window

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02:17:52,080 --> 02:17:57,760
Speaker 2: anybody then. So the executive vice president for media distribution,

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02:17:57,879 --> 02:18:00,720
Speaker 2: his name is Hans Schroeder, said the league is going

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Speaker 2: to continue to pay very close attention to all trends.

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02:18:04,080 --> 02:18:07,080
Speaker 2: They'll be ready to you know, manipulate set their schedule,

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02:18:08,240 --> 02:18:11,720
Speaker 2: how they perpetrate future matchups for Thanksgiving games.

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Speaker 3: It's all on the table. But there are no.

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Speaker 2: Immediate plans, for instance, to add like a say, a

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Speaker 2: fourth game to the Thanksgiving schedule. Right. But the commissioner,

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02:18:22,200 --> 02:18:25,360
Speaker 2: Roger Goodell, when he took over the league after Paul

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02:18:25,440 --> 02:18:27,080
Speaker 2: tag Leabou, I want to say it was two thousand

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02:18:27,120 --> 02:18:29,880
Speaker 2: and six, he said he wanted to go the league

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Speaker 2: into a twenty five billion dollar league.

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Speaker 3: And it's it's going to be.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look at all the international stuff for the

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Speaker 2: merchandising and the you know what I just shared with you,

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02:18:41,000 --> 02:18:43,880
Speaker 2: the the the pay for you know, the pay for

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02:18:45,040 --> 02:18:49,160
Speaker 2: view channels. It's now on one final thing. They looked

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02:18:49,240 --> 02:18:52,240
Speaker 2: very hard at metrics There was a conference call held

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Speaker 2: Wednesday with the three Thanksgiving broadcasters to talk about, you know,

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Speaker 2: all the plans and such, and it was kind of

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02:19:00,600 --> 02:19:04,920
Speaker 2: a different sentiment right the league, their networks. They all

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02:19:05,040 --> 02:19:09,360
Speaker 2: credit Nielsen Ratings for recent changes that actually capture viewership

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02:19:09,480 --> 02:19:14,400
Speaker 2: data a lot more broadly, including an expansion for audiences

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Speaker 2: who are now watching the games outside of their house

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02:19:18,200 --> 02:19:22,560
Speaker 2: so they their keeping score. And it's caught up to

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Speaker 2: the reality and the power. We realize something we've always known.

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02:19:28,360 --> 02:19:31,720
Speaker 2: Sports truly has the power to bring people together. And

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02:19:31,800 --> 02:19:35,640
Speaker 2: then numbers, they especially in the NFL, they reflect the

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02:19:35,720 --> 02:19:37,960
Speaker 2: reality that's been here for as long as I can

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Speaker 2: never remember, and that is that sports bring people together.

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02:19:42,800 --> 02:19:46,400
Speaker 2: But the NFL is showing no signs are resting. Well,

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Speaker 2: guess what, or one hundred and ninety three days away

2680
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Speaker 2: from World Cup, we have our first draw and our future.

2681
02:19:52,879 --> 02:19:55,840
Speaker 2: World of soccer started during World Cup twenty twenty two,

2682
02:19:56,120 --> 02:19:59,160
Speaker 2: just before Thanksgiving, when the US faced off against England

2683
02:19:59,200 --> 02:20:01,920
Speaker 2: on Black Friday. I believe they faced off against Paradway.

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02:20:01,959 --> 02:20:04,600
Speaker 2: But here to tell us more about that. It's Chris

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02:20:04,640 --> 02:20:05,720
Speaker 2: Purfett's world of soccer.

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02:20:07,400 --> 02:20:18,119
Speaker 6: The greatest goals, the thrilling finishes the international drum.

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Speaker 8: Him.

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Speaker 28: It's all here in this report from the World of Soccer.

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02:20:27,000 --> 02:20:28,880
Speaker 28: It is the World Cup draw. It is the time

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Speaker 28: we have been waiting for. Before we begin on that though,

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02:20:32,240 --> 02:20:36,320
Speaker 28: we do have to recognize the MLS Cup champion into Miami.

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02:20:36,879 --> 02:20:40,000
Speaker 28: After all this time, after all this attention on the club,

2693
02:20:40,200 --> 02:20:44,640
Speaker 28: Lionel Messi, David Beckham, things of that nature, It's happened.

2694
02:20:44,720 --> 02:20:48,480
Speaker 28: Miami has lifted the cup. The supporter shield this year

2695
02:20:48,600 --> 02:20:51,360
Speaker 28: may have eluded them, but Miami was not denied.

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Speaker 9: Here.

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Speaker 28: Lionel Messi with two assists on this game as they

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Speaker 28: roll the Vancouver white Caps three to one, finally giving

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Speaker 28: the desired champion of MLS the trophy. It's hero moment

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Speaker 28: for Lionel Messi's Stateside and really the goal of li

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Speaker 28: oel Messi project accomplished. Now, how many watch more of

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02:21:11,879 --> 02:21:12,520
Speaker 28: Lionel Messi?

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Speaker 2: Will we see?

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Speaker 28: Will he start to move towards the ownership roles that

2705
02:21:16,360 --> 02:21:18,800
Speaker 28: he has wanted with the stakes that he has gotten

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02:21:19,000 --> 02:21:22,280
Speaker 28: in MLS. Will it be enough to pull in more

2707
02:21:22,440 --> 02:21:25,160
Speaker 28: stars to MLS as they start to make this transition

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02:21:25,480 --> 02:21:29,120
Speaker 28: to align with the European transfer calendar, hard to really say,

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02:21:29,760 --> 02:21:33,199
Speaker 28: it almost feels like an aftermath to talk about Miami's

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Speaker 28: big victory. Maybe it's because again it's on championship weekend,

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02:21:37,840 --> 02:21:41,000
Speaker 28: and also for MLS fans, you might have been surprised

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02:21:41,040 --> 02:21:44,359
Speaker 28: to us this weekend because it's moved around the calendar

2713
02:21:44,480 --> 02:21:46,680
Speaker 28: quite a bit. This is not the big break that

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Speaker 28: sometimes MLS Cup would take before suddenly showing up again.

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02:21:50,840 --> 02:21:53,840
Speaker 28: And unfortunately for MLS as well here at the editorial

2716
02:21:53,920 --> 02:21:56,400
Speaker 28: desk for a World of Soccer, it does butt up

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Speaker 28: against some bigger news. I won't even be able to

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Speaker 28: get to the big news of Mohammed's Sala's very incendiary

2719
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Speaker 28: interview that has really sent shock waves up and down

2720
02:22:04,879 --> 02:22:09,440
Speaker 28: England as far as Liverpool continues to really show some

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02:22:09,720 --> 02:22:13,200
Speaker 28: sort of nasty hangover in their title defense a three

2722
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Speaker 28: to three draw on Saturday against Leads United, newly promoted

2723
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Speaker 28: Leads United. We'll try to talk about that on the

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Speaker 28: next episode, because something tells me this isn't going away,

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Speaker 28: especially with the character that Sala is and especially with

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Speaker 28: the stature of Sala at Liverpool. I would encourage everyone

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Speaker 28: to go find out and see these comments right now,

2728
02:22:33,879 --> 02:22:38,160
Speaker 28: because it is not all Roses over there for those

2729
02:22:38,560 --> 02:22:41,120
Speaker 28: guys at anfield. But we have to move on to

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02:22:41,240 --> 02:22:46,320
Speaker 28: the FIFA World Cup draw that happened on Friday. We'll

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Speaker 28: save Sala for next week, but let's talk about this draw,

2732
02:22:50,280 --> 02:22:53,960
Speaker 28: which was I will be honest looking at the groups

2733
02:22:54,040 --> 02:22:56,120
Speaker 28: right now, and we'll get dive into each individual group

2734
02:22:56,200 --> 02:22:58,920
Speaker 28: as we get closer to the World Cup. But looking

2735
02:22:58,959 --> 02:23:01,320
Speaker 28: at it right now, the first couple questions always come

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Speaker 28: to mind. Where is the United States, who has an

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02:23:03,560 --> 02:23:06,160
Speaker 28: automatic bid this year, although I think their CONCACAFF record

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02:23:06,360 --> 02:23:08,320
Speaker 28: would still probably be good enough to get them one

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02:23:08,320 --> 02:23:12,440
Speaker 28: of the CONCACAFT slots into the World Cup itself. Where

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Speaker 28: is Mexico, the other great nation of North America? And

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02:23:17,360 --> 02:23:19,720
Speaker 28: where are some of the European favorites? And which group

2742
02:23:19,840 --> 02:23:22,600
Speaker 28: is really the group of death? Let's start with the

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02:23:22,720 --> 02:23:26,680
Speaker 28: United States, who gets, in my estimation, a fairly favorable

2744
02:23:26,840 --> 02:23:29,960
Speaker 28: group here they pull you know them, in Group D.

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02:23:30,240 --> 02:23:33,560
Speaker 28: It'll be the United States, Paraguay and the winner of

2746
02:23:33,640 --> 02:23:39,160
Speaker 28: the European Playoff Group C. Now, UEFA and FIFA still

2747
02:23:39,200 --> 02:23:42,119
Speaker 28: have some slots to really play for here. The UEFA

2748
02:23:42,200 --> 02:23:46,840
Speaker 28: Playoff C indicates it'll be either Turkey Romania. Slovakia or

2749
02:23:46,920 --> 02:23:50,920
Speaker 28: Kosovo taking that last slot in there. Either way of those,

2750
02:23:51,440 --> 02:23:54,040
Speaker 28: Turkey would be an extremely interesting one to have in

2751
02:23:54,080 --> 02:23:57,640
Speaker 28: the group. But I've got to say this is probably

2752
02:23:57,680 --> 02:24:00,520
Speaker 28: the best draw I could imagine for the Unit States.

2753
02:24:00,879 --> 02:24:05,520
Speaker 28: Australia is not exactly a side that will really inspire

2754
02:24:05,640 --> 02:24:08,680
Speaker 28: a ton of fear. I believe they lost one nil

2755
02:24:08,760 --> 02:24:12,960
Speaker 28: to Bahrain and had a nil nil draw with Indonesia. Uh,

2756
02:24:13,200 --> 02:24:17,000
Speaker 28: not exactly the world beaters over there in that side

2757
02:24:17,040 --> 02:24:21,480
Speaker 28: of the world. Meanwhile, Paraguay is probably about the sixth

2758
02:24:21,560 --> 02:24:25,480
Speaker 28: best team Inconboble in South America. Now, I wouldn't call

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02:24:25,560 --> 02:24:27,920
Speaker 28: them as a slouch, but I think if you're looking

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02:24:27,959 --> 02:24:31,680
Speaker 28: for one of two spots to advance, that's pretty good.

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02:24:31,760 --> 02:24:35,720
Speaker 28: And as for the UWAFA playoff team there, Turkey would

2762
02:24:35,760 --> 02:24:38,920
Speaker 28: be a bit of a live wire to really deal with.

2763
02:24:39,160 --> 02:24:42,160
Speaker 28: But if it's not them, then you can really start

2764
02:24:42,200 --> 02:24:44,480
Speaker 28: to counter chickens and start to really start to pencil

2765
02:24:44,520 --> 02:24:47,880
Speaker 28: in the the the the the the knockout rounds for

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02:24:47,920 --> 02:24:50,120
Speaker 28: the United States, assuming, of course, the United States actually

2767
02:24:50,160 --> 02:24:52,480
Speaker 28: manages to show up, which there's been plenty of times

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02:24:52,480 --> 02:24:55,360
Speaker 28: a year they haven't. Mexico, meanwhile, Leans in a group

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02:24:55,440 --> 02:25:00,320
Speaker 28: with South Africa, South Korea, some some interesting h interesting

2770
02:25:00,360 --> 02:25:03,440
Speaker 28: contenders there and the winner of UEFA Playoff D which

2771
02:25:03,480 --> 02:25:07,720
Speaker 28: we either Denmark, North Macedonia, Czech Republic or Ireland. Their

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02:25:07,800 --> 02:25:10,640
Speaker 28: main contest in that group will be South Korea. I

2773
02:25:10,680 --> 02:25:14,640
Speaker 28: believe Mexico is ranked fifteenth, South Korea is ranked twenty second.

2774
02:25:15,200 --> 02:25:17,960
Speaker 28: How that should be really one that stands out. But

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Speaker 28: again a group where I could see Mexico really moving on. Now,

2776
02:25:21,720 --> 02:25:23,959
Speaker 28: who is the group of death? Who is the group

2777
02:25:24,000 --> 02:25:27,000
Speaker 28: who really got a lot of uh has a lot

2778
02:25:27,080 --> 02:25:29,280
Speaker 28: of trouble that we could really see some upsets going home?

2779
02:25:29,480 --> 02:25:30,440
Speaker 1: That would be Group L.

2780
02:25:31,160 --> 02:25:33,840
Speaker 28: And if you're an England fan, cover your ears for

2781
02:25:33,920 --> 02:25:36,480
Speaker 28: this one, because yes you are England in the Group

2782
02:25:36,560 --> 02:25:42,800
Speaker 28: of Death with Ghana, Panama and Croatia. Now United States fans,

2783
02:25:43,400 --> 02:25:47,520
Speaker 28: you'll recognize Ghana immediately and go oh no England if

2784
02:25:47,560 --> 02:25:48,560
Speaker 28: you haven't faced them before.

2785
02:25:48,720 --> 02:25:50,160
Speaker 1: Ghana is nasty.

2786
02:25:50,800 --> 02:25:54,480
Speaker 28: They have always shown up from Africa to ball out

2787
02:25:55,000 --> 02:25:59,920
Speaker 28: and ruin someone's day at the World Cup. Panama, meanwhile,

2788
02:26:00,080 --> 02:26:03,120
Speaker 28: has been an extremely feisty Conca cast side.

2789
02:26:03,160 --> 02:26:04,199
Speaker 1: Maybe not the most.

2790
02:26:05,840 --> 02:26:08,240
Speaker 28: Successful, but they can definitely do what we like to

2791
02:26:08,320 --> 02:26:10,800
Speaker 28: call the Conka calf you. They can really just drag

2792
02:26:10,920 --> 02:26:13,039
Speaker 28: you into the mud, make you play at their level.

2793
02:26:13,080 --> 02:26:17,000
Speaker 28: Shouldn't be a problem for England, but Croatia. Croatia is trouble.

2794
02:26:17,400 --> 02:26:21,400
Speaker 28: Croatia who finished third last World Cup and we're in

2795
02:26:21,560 --> 02:26:25,520
Speaker 28: the final for the World Cup prior in twenty eighteen.

2796
02:26:25,879 --> 02:26:29,240
Speaker 28: They lost to France that year. Yeah, France, this is

2797
02:26:29,360 --> 02:26:32,360
Speaker 28: not a cakewalk for England and I could honestly see

2798
02:26:32,400 --> 02:26:34,640
Speaker 28: them going out in the group stage if their touches

2799
02:26:34,720 --> 02:26:37,280
Speaker 28: don't go right. I am very down on England this

2800
02:26:37,760 --> 02:26:40,560
Speaker 28: particular World Cup. And meanwhile, the group I am most

2801
02:26:40,640 --> 02:26:43,880
Speaker 28: interested to see right now would be Group I, which

2802
02:26:44,120 --> 02:26:48,240
Speaker 28: is Senegal, France, Norway and the winner of an intercontinental

2803
02:26:48,280 --> 02:26:51,480
Speaker 28: playoff between a rock O Bolivia and Surinam. Now those

2804
02:26:51,560 --> 02:26:55,160
Speaker 28: guys really don't matter. But Norway with Earling Holland against

2805
02:26:55,240 --> 02:26:59,320
Speaker 28: Killian Embape on the French side, that's some of my

2806
02:26:59,480 --> 02:27:02,400
Speaker 28: favorite favorite matchup. I am going to probably have this

2807
02:27:02,560 --> 02:27:05,280
Speaker 28: entire World Cup. We'll keep digging into this and more

2808
02:27:05,400 --> 02:27:06,840
Speaker 28: next week on the World of Soccer.

2809
02:27:08,240 --> 02:27:10,520
Speaker 3: There you have it, so this we know for sure.

2810
02:27:10,800 --> 02:27:14,959
Speaker 2: Mark Lee Calendar, June twelfth, twenty twenty six six pm

2811
02:27:15,040 --> 02:27:18,720
Speaker 2: Pacific time USA. We'll kick it off against Paraguay in

2812
02:27:18,879 --> 02:27:22,720
Speaker 2: Los Angeles, part of the Group D group stage one

2813
02:27:22,800 --> 02:27:27,680
Speaker 2: week later at noon June nineteenth, twenty twenty six, USA,

2814
02:27:27,800 --> 02:27:32,000
Speaker 2: and Australia six days later to be determined. We don't

2815
02:27:32,000 --> 02:27:34,640
Speaker 2: know who the fourth entrant will be in the Group

2816
02:27:34,760 --> 02:27:38,280
Speaker 2: D stage. I don't know, man, I'm just gonna wait

2817
02:27:38,360 --> 02:27:41,280
Speaker 2: and see. We had real high hopes in twenty twenty

2818
02:27:41,320 --> 02:27:46,520
Speaker 2: two for that first match against England on Black Friday. Yeah,

2819
02:27:46,879 --> 02:27:50,200
Speaker 2: not so much, but hope springs eternal, right, maybe they

2820
02:27:50,280 --> 02:27:54,080
Speaker 2: can hire Kurt Signetti or something like that. Coming up.

2821
02:27:54,200 --> 02:27:57,080
Speaker 2: We wrap up the show and I share with you

2822
02:27:57,480 --> 02:28:04,199
Speaker 2: one particular team a takeaway from Saturday's Conference championship games

2823
02:28:04,959 --> 02:28:08,480
Speaker 2: that is very much peaking at a dangerous time and

2824
02:28:08,640 --> 02:28:11,360
Speaker 2: not a lot of folks are talking about them, but

2825
02:28:11,480 --> 02:28:13,959
Speaker 2: we will come it up. I'm Bernie fraddlewic Kemedy Line

2826
02:28:13,959 --> 02:28:16,640
Speaker 2: from Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios here in Lat Vegas.

2827
02:28:17,280 --> 02:28:19,440
Speaker 2: Don't go away. You're listening to the Bernie Fraddle Show.

2828
02:28:19,360 --> 02:28:22,480
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2829
02:28:22,520 --> 02:28:25,560
Speaker 6: in the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports

2830
02:28:25,680 --> 02:28:29,959
Speaker 6: radio dot Com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR

2831
02:28:30,120 --> 02:28:30,920
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02:28:41,240 --> 02:28:43,279
Speaker 3: All right, we are wrapping it up on the Bernie

2833
02:28:43,280 --> 02:28:43,959
Speaker 3: Fraddle Show.

2834
02:28:44,440 --> 02:28:48,480
Speaker 2: I want to thank my producers, Mark and Brandon a

2835
02:28:48,600 --> 02:28:51,360
Speaker 2: great job tonight, keeping us glued together, keeping us on

2836
02:28:51,480 --> 02:28:56,680
Speaker 2: the air, all the stuff, managing the time clock, answering

2837
02:28:56,720 --> 02:29:01,640
Speaker 2: phone calls. Appreciate all the effort. You know, I don't

2838
02:29:01,640 --> 02:29:04,400
Speaker 2: think the folks at Ohio State will sleep well tonight either,

2839
02:29:05,200 --> 02:29:06,039
Speaker 2: not because they're not.

2840
02:29:06,080 --> 02:29:08,039
Speaker 3: Going to the playoffs and probably be the number two seed.

2841
02:29:08,600 --> 02:29:12,000
Speaker 2: They show their big ten championship hopes go wide left

2842
02:29:12,040 --> 02:29:18,040
Speaker 2: to the goal post Saturday against Diana. Against Indiana, you know,

2843
02:29:19,440 --> 02:29:22,000
Speaker 2: the Buckeyes had a fourth and one at Indiana's nine

2844
02:29:22,000 --> 02:29:24,960
Speaker 2: with under three minutes left in the game, and they

2845
02:29:25,000 --> 02:29:27,199
Speaker 2: did the smart thing by kicking the field goal because

2846
02:29:28,080 --> 02:29:30,720
Speaker 2: in playing it safe, I realized it didn't work out.

2847
02:29:31,640 --> 02:29:33,840
Speaker 2: But I think eight minutes earlier they were in a

2848
02:29:33,920 --> 02:29:37,600
Speaker 2: relatively similar situation, and you know, I'm sure the analytics

2849
02:29:37,640 --> 02:29:39,480
Speaker 2: told them to go for it, and they'd failed on

2850
02:29:39,560 --> 02:29:43,000
Speaker 2: fourth down and so the game could have already been tied.

2851
02:29:43,120 --> 02:29:47,680
Speaker 2: But I digress, I digress. We had an excellent conversation

2852
02:29:47,840 --> 02:29:52,520
Speaker 2: during the men that hour Saturday Night. Pertaining to analytics,

2853
02:29:53,160 --> 02:29:55,920
Speaker 2: are they an inflexible anchor or? They should just be

2854
02:29:56,000 --> 02:30:02,400
Speaker 2: a guideline. We've gone too far allowing professional men who

2855
02:30:02,480 --> 02:30:06,120
Speaker 2: do this for a living to put their intuition in

2856
02:30:06,240 --> 02:30:11,320
Speaker 2: wisdom on display again. Analytics tell you what happened yesterday,

2857
02:30:11,440 --> 02:30:15,080
Speaker 2: not tomorrow. I'm not against them, I just think you

2858
02:30:15,280 --> 02:30:16,760
Speaker 2: can't use them.

2859
02:30:16,640 --> 02:30:19,560
Speaker 3: Carp Blanche. They're a guideline, not an inflexible anchor.

2860
02:30:20,560 --> 02:30:25,360
Speaker 2: Now. I gave them my flowers to Indiana as well,

2861
02:30:25,400 --> 02:30:28,160
Speaker 2: they should get them as well.

2862
02:30:28,280 --> 02:30:29,119
Speaker 3: They should get them.

2863
02:30:29,840 --> 02:30:33,440
Speaker 2: What Indiana did Saturday night is nothing short of a miracle.

2864
02:30:33,560 --> 02:30:35,600
Speaker 2: When you look at the timeline of where they were

2865
02:30:35,680 --> 02:30:38,480
Speaker 2: two years ago. Their last share of the Big Ten

2866
02:30:38,640 --> 02:30:43,640
Speaker 2: championship was forty eight years ago. The Hoosiers checked that

2867
02:30:43,800 --> 02:30:46,280
Speaker 2: fifty eight years ago. The last time the Hoosiers won

2868
02:30:46,320 --> 02:30:48,880
Speaker 2: a Big Ten title out right was eighty years ago,

2869
02:30:50,120 --> 02:30:53,199
Speaker 2: and they hadn't beaten Ohio State since I think Reagan

2870
02:30:53,320 --> 02:30:56,959
Speaker 2: was finishing up the second term. Kurt Signetti has an

2871
02:30:57,040 --> 02:31:01,160
Speaker 2: uncanny ability to do something that other people just came through,

2872
02:31:01,280 --> 02:31:04,320
Speaker 2: not only turn a program into a monster, but do

2873
02:31:04,400 --> 02:31:07,320
Speaker 2: it virtually overnight. He came out of the Gate with

2874
02:31:07,840 --> 02:31:13,240
Speaker 2: Reggie Jackson. Like Braggadoccio, he said Google, I win, Google me,

2875
02:31:13,400 --> 02:31:16,640
Speaker 2: and he's backed it up. Then some Last year was

2876
02:31:16,640 --> 02:31:19,720
Speaker 2: a pretty eye popping year. Remember they're twenty four and

2877
02:31:19,800 --> 02:31:22,840
Speaker 2: two over two years. They only launched to Notre Dame

2878
02:31:22,879 --> 02:31:24,920
Speaker 2: in Ohio State last year, and this year they've avenged

2879
02:31:24,920 --> 02:31:28,880
Speaker 2: the Ohio State loss. And it's not that Indiana just

2880
02:31:29,480 --> 02:31:32,200
Speaker 2: hung with the Buckeyes. They out gained them on offense,

2881
02:31:32,320 --> 02:31:35,959
Speaker 2: held the Ohio State Buckeyes to fifty eight yards rushing.

2882
02:31:36,200 --> 02:31:39,000
Speaker 2: You don't do that. That hasn't happened in fifteen years.

2883
02:31:39,440 --> 02:31:43,160
Speaker 2: The Hoosiers owned the trenches, five sacks, nine tackles for loss.

2884
02:31:43,600 --> 02:31:47,200
Speaker 2: The Ohio State offense, which has been pretty good, only

2885
02:31:47,320 --> 02:31:51,320
Speaker 2: ran fifty six plays. And for Nana Mendoza, not only

2886
02:31:52,800 --> 02:31:54,400
Speaker 2: is he going to be on that flight to New

2887
02:31:54,480 --> 02:31:58,280
Speaker 2: York for the Heisman celebration or the Heisman Awards ceremony,

2888
02:31:58,800 --> 02:32:01,280
Speaker 2: he should be working on his each because if he

2889
02:32:01,320 --> 02:32:04,160
Speaker 2: doesn't win it, I don't know who does. I don't

2890
02:32:04,200 --> 02:32:07,600
Speaker 2: know how you vote for anybody else over him. Fifteen

2891
02:32:07,640 --> 02:32:10,080
Speaker 2: to twenty three for two twenty two in a touchdown Saturday.

2892
02:32:10,440 --> 02:32:13,280
Speaker 2: But what I had noticed most again. It's the old thing.

2893
02:32:13,800 --> 02:32:17,200
Speaker 2: Can you be great when the situation demands greatness? And

2894
02:32:17,360 --> 02:32:17,720
Speaker 2: he was.

2895
02:32:18,480 --> 02:32:22,280
Speaker 3: He made multiple Fernanda Mendoza made multiple high level throws

2896
02:32:22,320 --> 02:32:24,800
Speaker 3: in the second half to secure the win. Now, you

2897
02:32:24,879 --> 02:32:29,680
Speaker 3: can be sure Indiana in about six hours and eleven

2898
02:32:29,720 --> 02:32:32,760
Speaker 3: minutes from now, when they start the program that made

2899
02:32:32,800 --> 02:32:35,760
Speaker 3: for TV event, they will be the number one seed.

2900
02:32:37,000 --> 02:32:40,640
Speaker 3: And I would say they could have a rematch with

2901
02:32:40,800 --> 02:32:44,040
Speaker 3: Ohio State, but it wouldn't be till the national title game.

2902
02:32:44,480 --> 02:32:50,039
Speaker 2: That's the way I'll see it. Or is it possible?

2903
02:32:50,480 --> 02:32:57,240
Speaker 2: Tell me this wouldn't be juicy Indiana versus Georgia. All right?

2904
02:32:58,400 --> 02:33:03,520
Speaker 2: Have you noticed that Kirby Smart, very quietly in the

2905
02:33:03,640 --> 02:33:10,400
Speaker 2: past few weeks and months, has really asserted itself in

2906
02:33:10,520 --> 02:33:15,600
Speaker 2: a way that's somewhat methodical but very impressive. See now,

2907
02:33:15,680 --> 02:33:18,760
Speaker 2: for the second year in a row, Georgia heads to

2908
02:33:18,800 --> 02:33:21,240
Speaker 2: the College Football Playoff as the SEC champion.

2909
02:33:21,680 --> 02:33:22,760
Speaker 3: That is no small feat.

2910
02:33:24,160 --> 02:33:26,320
Speaker 2: The outcome is the same as last year, but the

2911
02:33:26,520 --> 02:33:32,720
Speaker 2: vibe around the Georgia Bulldogs this year is tremendously different

2912
02:33:32,760 --> 02:33:33,879
Speaker 2: from last year's team.

2913
02:33:34,879 --> 02:33:35,920
Speaker 3: If you recall.

2914
02:33:37,760 --> 02:33:41,720
Speaker 2: Last year, Georgia kind of limped into the college football

2915
02:33:41,760 --> 02:33:46,160
Speaker 2: playoff quarterfinals versus a Notre Dame team. They were hampered

2916
02:33:46,200 --> 02:33:51,920
Speaker 2: by a litany of injuries, notably to their quarterback Carson Beck,

2917
02:33:51,959 --> 02:33:54,240
Speaker 2: who's now with Miami. And we'll see you hear in

2918
02:33:54,320 --> 02:33:58,039
Speaker 2: my commentary earlier, we'll see if Miami gets in batmant

2919
02:33:58,080 --> 02:34:02,320
Speaker 2: Gunner Stockton was making his first career start in a

2920
02:34:02,400 --> 02:34:06,160
Speaker 2: quarter final playoff game versus Notre Dame. And that's the

2921
02:34:06,240 --> 02:34:12,320
Speaker 2: scenario that well, they fought, but eventually they do a loss.

2922
02:34:13,720 --> 02:34:17,600
Speaker 2: This year, what a year difference makes. Gunner Stockton is

2923
02:34:17,760 --> 02:34:22,680
Speaker 2: leading the Bulldogs back into the college football playoff and

2924
02:34:22,840 --> 02:34:27,560
Speaker 2: they exercised their Alabama demons in pretty impressive fashion on Saturday.

2925
02:34:28,600 --> 02:34:31,360
Speaker 2: They won by three touchdowns. They were shutting Alabama out

2926
02:34:31,400 --> 02:34:34,320
Speaker 2: to the fourth quarter and the SEC game kind of

2927
02:34:34,360 --> 02:34:37,800
Speaker 2: turned into a bloodbath because Stockton through three touchdowns and

2928
02:34:37,840 --> 02:34:40,920
Speaker 2: the defense really kind of exposed what has appeared to

2929
02:34:41,160 --> 02:34:45,320
Speaker 2: become a somewhat overmatched, Crimson tied offense. With all due

2930
02:34:45,320 --> 02:34:48,840
Speaker 2: respect to Alabama, they don't seem to run the ball

2931
02:34:48,879 --> 02:34:51,000
Speaker 2: the same way they used to, and they don't defend

2932
02:34:51,040 --> 02:34:53,560
Speaker 2: their run the same way they used to. Now Georgia's

2933
02:34:53,560 --> 02:34:58,000
Speaker 2: biggest issue earlier this season was a less than stellar

2934
02:34:58,560 --> 02:35:02,080
Speaker 2: pass rush that was getting not much pressure, in fact,

2935
02:35:02,080 --> 02:35:04,880
Speaker 2: almost zero pressure on the quarterback. That was evident in

2936
02:35:04,920 --> 02:35:08,080
Speaker 2: their first matchup with Alabama. They posted just one sack

2937
02:35:08,160 --> 02:35:11,840
Speaker 2: on that loss. But Saturday Georgia had three sacks, four

2938
02:35:11,920 --> 02:35:15,840
Speaker 2: quarterback hurries, and they bothered ty Simpson all day long.

2939
02:35:16,280 --> 02:35:20,760
Speaker 2: They affected ty Simpson's ability to find open receivers and

2940
02:35:20,920 --> 02:35:24,760
Speaker 2: that pressure forced ty Simpson to misfire on numerous occasions

2941
02:35:24,959 --> 02:35:28,240
Speaker 2: when he had open receivers. I believe the bracket will

2942
02:35:28,240 --> 02:35:30,520
Speaker 2: most likely show Georgia in the same place as last year,

2943
02:35:31,080 --> 02:35:35,360
Speaker 2: a first round by into the College Football Playoff quarterfinals. However,

2944
02:35:36,320 --> 02:35:40,680
Speaker 2: Saturday showed us this is a very different Georgia Bulldog

2945
02:35:40,800 --> 02:35:44,959
Speaker 2: team waiting for their opponent, and they should be considered

2946
02:35:45,240 --> 02:35:48,240
Speaker 2: very much on the short list to win the national title.

2947
02:35:49,160 --> 02:35:54,440
Speaker 2: Georgia is peaking at the various dangerous time. You've been

2948
02:35:54,560 --> 02:35:58,760
Speaker 2: warned by the way. I haven't mentioned Texas Tech that

2949
02:35:58,959 --> 02:36:01,760
Speaker 2: defense based on what I'm seeing the speed on both

2950
02:36:01,800 --> 02:36:04,880
Speaker 2: sides of the ball, I hadn't seen them enough in

2951
02:36:05,000 --> 02:36:08,480
Speaker 2: a granular fashion the way I watched them Saturday, Texas

2952
02:36:08,560 --> 02:36:11,520
Speaker 2: Tech actually poses a legitimate threat. Also to win the

2953
02:36:11,560 --> 02:36:16,920
Speaker 2: college football playoff thanks to Yes, an elite defense. Now,

2954
02:36:17,680 --> 02:36:22,160
Speaker 2: Ohio State's probably the elite defense which all others are

2955
02:36:22,240 --> 02:36:24,960
Speaker 2: measured by in the college football playoffs. But as bum

2956
02:36:25,000 --> 02:36:27,240
Speaker 2: Phillips once said, I don't know, it's at the top

2957
02:36:27,280 --> 02:36:29,160
Speaker 2: of the class, but it don't take long to call roll.

2958
02:36:29,920 --> 02:36:33,520
Speaker 2: Texas Tech is right behind him, right, He just doesn't

2959
02:36:33,600 --> 02:36:36,200
Speaker 2: roll off the tongue right anymore than Duke in Indiana

2960
02:36:36,400 --> 02:36:38,959
Speaker 2: or basketball school as well, they're football schools now too.

2961
02:36:39,480 --> 02:36:41,879
Speaker 3: Both came up big Saturday, So it's.

2962
02:36:41,800 --> 02:36:45,600
Speaker 2: Perhaps been awkward and unusual for a lot of people

2963
02:36:45,720 --> 02:36:49,520
Speaker 2: trying to let the Red Raiders roll off the tongue

2964
02:36:50,280 --> 02:36:52,840
Speaker 2: led by an astounding defense, especially when Mike Leach had

2965
02:36:52,879 --> 02:36:55,480
Speaker 2: that fabulous offense all those years, and they've had guys

2966
02:36:55,520 --> 02:36:59,880
Speaker 2: like Patrick Mahomes and Graham Harrold and Cliff Kingsbury who

2967
02:37:00,400 --> 02:37:04,240
Speaker 2: through for about forty thousand yards. But Joey McGuire, they're

2968
02:37:04,280 --> 02:37:07,360
Speaker 2: head coach at Texas Tech. This is a different program now.

2969
02:37:07,440 --> 02:37:10,160
Speaker 2: It's a smash moub team and they squeeze the life

2970
02:37:10,200 --> 02:37:12,640
Speaker 2: out of you if you get in their way. This

2971
02:37:12,840 --> 02:37:15,720
Speaker 2: is gonna be a very fun college football playoff I'm

2972
02:37:15,720 --> 02:37:18,560
Speaker 2: glad it's here. What I do think, though, is there

2973
02:37:18,560 --> 02:37:20,840
Speaker 2: are going to be some very nervous fans on Saturday,

2974
02:37:21,400 --> 02:37:24,520
Speaker 2: and someone's going home pissed off in about ten hours.

2975
02:37:25,400 --> 02:37:27,520
Speaker 2: What can you do. It's going to be another made

2976
02:37:27,560 --> 02:37:31,160
Speaker 2: for TV invitational tournament, but we're all here for. It's

2977
02:37:31,200 --> 02:37:33,000
Speaker 2: going to do it for the Bernie Frattle Show. I'll

2978
02:37:33,040 --> 02:37:35,800
Speaker 2: see you next week. Keep it locked up next They're great.

2979
02:37:35,920 --> 02:37:38,480
Speaker 2: Andy Furman on Fox Sports Radio