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Speaker 1: The San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe.

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Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison

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Speaker 2: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging

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Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGinty committed the ultimate judicial sin.

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Speaker 3: Why did you do it?

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Speaker 4: I did it because I was foolish.

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Speaker 2: Listen to how to Bribe a Judge on Revolver podcast

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Speaker 5: The John Nnick and Kenny Florian Podcasts, Guy Kenny Florian,

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, here're your hosts, John Annick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 6: Well, happy forty fifth birthday. No Mark Garcia para. It

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Speaker 6: is Monday, July twenty third, twenty eighteen, Episode one sixty

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Speaker 6: four of the Annik and Florian Podcast. I've gotten used

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Speaker 6: to the video. I cannot see Kenny Florian today. I'm

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Speaker 6: told he looks good. I'm told he's not wearing a hat,

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Speaker 6: and you're ready to go.

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Speaker 7: But I cannot see you.

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Speaker 3: You can see me, dude, I got my tan going on.

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Speaker 7: I bet you do.

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Speaker 8: My hair's not perfect. But anyways, you're missing stuff. You're

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Speaker 8: missing some stuff.

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Speaker 6: I am I'm missing out. I wasn't missing out yesterday.

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Speaker 6: It was nice to have Ken Flow on the television

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Speaker 6: all day Sunday. What was your cald time yesterday?

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Speaker 7: Anyway?

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Speaker 3: My god, dude, five forty five?

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Speaker 8: But you know what the flow was there at five

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Speaker 8: thirty because her professional.

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Speaker 6: Course, you were just like for the podcast today, quarter

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Speaker 6: of an hour early, in your seat, ready to go.

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Speaker 6: So but I would imagine too, when you have a baby,

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Speaker 6: right like, not like you're doing a four am feeding

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Speaker 6: before you got to go on TV all day and

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Speaker 6: I know those are long days, but sort of in

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Speaker 6: a weird sleeping pattern.

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Speaker 7: I imagine that.

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Speaker 6: You know, if you got to get in the shower

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Speaker 6: at four thirty, you just suck it up and get

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Speaker 6: in the shower, right.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 8: I was well, I was lucky that I went to

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Speaker 8: sleep early. I was like, I gotta be in bed

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Speaker 8: before nine o'clock. I was asleep at eight thirty. It

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Speaker 8: was perfect.

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Speaker 3: I was up before my wife and the baby. It

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Speaker 3: was great. Wow.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, or do you not shower? Do you just go

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Speaker 6: in there and it just looks that good?

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Speaker 3: Now? I mean I showered. I do the old showers

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so I don't often start this way, but I

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Speaker 6: just want to say we do appreciate all the feedback

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Speaker 6: on last week's episode, in particular, a lot of people

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Speaker 6: had some comments on the podcast. I agree, Ken Flow

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Speaker 6: is absolutely sizzling. So he had a good week. You

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Speaker 6: certainly let him know, and we appreciate that because this

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Speaker 6: thing is sort of the little engine that could in

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Speaker 6: a lot of respect. So so thank you for keeping

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Speaker 6: it going. And believe it or not, the feedback really

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Speaker 6: does help Ken Flow. We got a lot to get

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Speaker 6: to today as usual, but can we start with the

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Speaker 6: mouth sized gash underneath the actual mouth of Stephan Struve?

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Speaker 6: I mean, marching tabora through that elbow and you just

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Speaker 6: knew that Stephan Struve was getting a free scar.

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Speaker 7: And I don't know, I don't know if you use

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Speaker 7: glue for that.

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Speaker 6: I don't even know if doctor Florian knows what to

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Speaker 6: do with the wound of that magnitude dude. Some of

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Speaker 6: these cuts that that did not look fun. I mean

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Speaker 6: you're seeing his tongue protrude through on the Instagram photo.

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Speaker 7: What a mess.

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Speaker 8: Listen, you'll leave it open, you put your credit cards

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Speaker 8: in there, That's what you did. Yeah, he just you know, now, listen, man,

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Speaker 8: that was that was crazy. It literally looked like he

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Speaker 8: had two mouths and with the size of Stefan Struve

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Speaker 8: probably was as big as some people's mouths.

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Speaker 3: Uh but uh yeah, nasty man. That was a nasty cut.

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Speaker 8: Stephan Struve a very tough guy, but yet another reminder

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Speaker 8: this is a tough sport people.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, no, for sure.

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Speaker 6: And I think that was a good reminder for people

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Speaker 6: like me. I mean, what do you think someone like

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Speaker 6: another day at the office. He was fine with it. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 6: So outstanding show in Germany. If you like decisions, there

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Speaker 6: were ten of them. So if you like decisions, this

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Speaker 6: was the show for you. I wish I could share

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Speaker 6: my text exchange with can Flow during some of these

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Speaker 6: fights that did at times seem interminable, but not even

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Speaker 6: ken Flow and the record for decisions with ten as

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Speaker 6: I mentioned, but the most fight time for a single event.

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Speaker 6: It was recently over three hours, three hours, four minutes

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Speaker 6: and eighteen seconds of actual fight time. Forget your three

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Speaker 6: hour broadcast window. UFC Fight Night one twenty one for

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Speaker 6: Doom versus Tubora. That was an international show of some kind.

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Speaker 6: But then UFC Fight Night eighty nine Rory McDonald and

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Speaker 6: a part of that. That's number two we called fifty

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Speaker 6: So so we've put in the time, right, you know,

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Speaker 6: we've called three hours of fights nothing. And I think

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Speaker 6: and Thompson, eventually in time you lose sight of the

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Speaker 6: fact that at times it was a very long broadcast.

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Speaker 6: But Anthony Lyonheart Smith we talked about him on the

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Speaker 6: show last week seventeen and eleven. At one point in

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Speaker 6: his career, if you recall, Kenny, we called his UFC

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Speaker 6: debut in fort Delays at June eighth, twenty thirteen on

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Speaker 6: submitted with a knee bar Antonio braganetto right. He was

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Speaker 6: he lost his next fight to Joshner So December fourteenth,

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Speaker 6: twenty thirteen, Anthony Smith. Smith wakes up seventeen and eleven

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Speaker 6: for his career, you fast forward five years, four and

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Speaker 6: a half years, thirty and thirteen back to back finishes

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Speaker 6: of Rashad Evans and Mauricia shogun Hua to become a

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Speaker 6: UFC light heavyweight title contender. This is an incredible story

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Speaker 6: and you gotta feel good for Lionheart if you know

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Speaker 6: the man, if you know the fighter, he's put in

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Speaker 6: the time, he's paid his dues, and he's being rewarded

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Speaker 8: I love this story, and again it's always impressive when

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Speaker 8: I think, had seven fights out of the UFC, outside

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Speaker 8: Very impressed with Anthony Smith. And you know what's so

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Speaker 3: Guy, he goes out for the kill.

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Speaker 8: He's not going out there to outpoint you or win rounds.

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Speaker 6: So you mentioned the time outside the UFC. So he

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Speaker 7: But I guess at least as far.

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Speaker 6: As Anthony Smith is concerned that Jimmy manuwill fight seems

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Speaker 3: You know, he's a guy who gets it.

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Speaker 8: Immediately had Gustafson's name in his mouth as soon as

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Speaker 8: the fact that he's calling out Gustafson obviously that that's

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Speaker 8: the fact that you know his composure, you know, Tim

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Speaker 6: And as you mentioned, he wants to fight Alexander Gustafson

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 6: I think he understands the trajectory and what can happen

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Speaker 6: if he beats the number one contender Alexander Gustipson, or

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Speaker 6: and people used to laugh him off. But it also

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Speaker 6: it and he feels like in a short note of situation,

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Speaker 6: Alexander Gustafson's got his hands full trying to prepare for

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Speaker 6: You got to like the submissions can flow too as well.

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Speaker 6: I mean, this is a prolific finisher. A lot of

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Speaker 6: a lot of different ways to beat you. And went

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Speaker 6: to the power game to get Showgun out of there.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, he has a tremendous amount of power. Has a

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Speaker 6: So, Ray, I can't see you today. We like that

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Speaker 7: oh you sound good?

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Speaker 3: Now there we go.

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Speaker 6: Look, so we're oh, Joe, take this thing outside today

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Speaker 11: Oh no, it's it's it's a little better than last week.

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Speaker 6: I do like cuts, right like as a fan and

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Speaker 11: Obviously is dangerous, but you know, I think he's gotten

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Speaker 3: Right now.

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Speaker 6: We talked a little bit about Alexander Gustafson and him

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Speaker 11: Uh No, I think Kobe Covington, with that win over Dosanjos,

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Speaker 7: But that fight has to happen with that album.

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Speaker 11: But I do think he he at least turned the

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Speaker 11: Might would be down for that fight. But Kobe Comington

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Speaker 6: All right, al Jamain Sterling, huge fight coming up. We

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Speaker 6: pay per view for you, Ray long ago your thoughts

439
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Speaker 6: on Cody Stamen, and I would imagine preparations are going

440
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Speaker 6: to be getting underway here pretty soon, if they aren't already.

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Speaker 6: I think Aljo's in like Indonesia or something.

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Speaker 3: No, No, I'm just right behind you, right.

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Speaker 8: You could have been see I can't see, and it

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Speaker 8: doesn't have a video.

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Speaker 3: So that's why.

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Speaker 11: We're sharing the minute right now. We're actually sharing the

447
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Speaker 11: minute with him.

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Speaker 7: Know that here I am asking about al Jo. I

449
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Speaker 7: didn't even know he was there. How about that?

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Speaker 11: Oh I've been I've been flashing to him for the

451
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Speaker 11: last ten minutes.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so all things Aljo have a hot mic.

453
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Speaker 7: I mean, I'm very excited about this fight.

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Speaker 6: I love the fact that that al Joe wants this

455
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Speaker 6: fight and Cody does as well.

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Speaker 11: Listen, man, it's all about who's available, and Alja wants

457
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Speaker 11: to stay busy.

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Speaker 4: He's been looking great.

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Speaker 3: I thought his last.

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Speaker 11: Fight he improved on a lot of things, and he's

461
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Speaker 11: keeping it going in the gym during sparming, So he's on.

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Speaker 11: You know, when Aljo's on, he's on, man, and he's

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Speaker 11: going to be hard for anybody.

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Speaker 4: To deal with.

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Speaker 7: I just like that he wants to stay busy.

466
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Speaker 6: You know, he got these guys like Alexander Volkanowski and

467
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Speaker 6: Cody Staman seventeen and one. Eighteen and one aren't easy

468
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Speaker 6: fights for rank guys, top ten guys like al Joe,

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Speaker 6: but if you want to stay busy, sort of to

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Speaker 6: my point earlier, you take those fights, all right, Marob

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Speaker 6: debolish Billy then, at least according to him, is fighting

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Speaker 6: in Moscow December September fifteenth, a week later. So I'm

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Speaker 6: gonna I'm gonna put two hundred dollars on the table

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Speaker 6: here or we could do more, that says Ray Longo.

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Speaker 7: Will not be going from Dallas to Russia.

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Speaker 11: To corner, I'll be going. I'm going to Russia whether

477
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Speaker 11: I'm leaving from Dallas. Al Jo's been asking me that

478
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Speaker 11: for the last five days. So I don't know why

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Speaker 11: this is a big deal, but.

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Speaker 7: Uh, because he's trying to get with travel. I like that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, No, I'm definitely going to Russia.

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Speaker 11: I'll definitely be in Dallas, whether I come back for

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Speaker 11: a day or two.

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Speaker 4: That's the questions.

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Speaker 3: That's where we're at right now.

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Speaker 7: Okay, so much going to Russia. I love it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, why not?

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Speaker 11: That's a chance a lifetime, you know, once in a

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Speaker 11: lifetime thing.

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Speaker 3: I think for most people.

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Speaker 11: Good, I'm gonna I'm gonna embrace that Kabi pet run

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Speaker 11: around like a lunatic.

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Speaker 6: I just I mean, what I did I didn't know

494
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Speaker 6: how far you traveled internationally or how often you did,

495
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Speaker 6: but I'm pleasantly surprised. Surprised because I think Rob's a

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Speaker 6: better fighter with you in his corner.

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Speaker 4: Obviously awesome.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, and I'm excited because you know that's where he's from.

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Speaker 11: I think his Georgia, the Republican George, is maybe two

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Speaker 11: hours away.

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Speaker 4: So he's really excited for that fight. And uh, you know,

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Speaker 4: I mean, he brings it no matter what. But I

503
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Speaker 4: expect him to even be more ramped up than.

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Speaker 10: He normally is.

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Speaker 6: And Terry On wears a good fighter, good stand up

506
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Speaker 6: fighter that I know you'll be prepared for. So uh,

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Speaker 6: all right, my man, Well, well, thank you for the

508
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Speaker 6: extented time. Sorry about the technical difficulties, but uh, I

509
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Speaker 6: know you've you faced worse adversity in your day.

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Speaker 10: Ray.

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Speaker 11: I think this is you know they say don't sweat

512
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Speaker 11: the small stuff.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, this is.

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Speaker 4: Exactly what they're talking about.

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Speaker 3: It's right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And we're not sweating, Kenny.

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Speaker 3: Never, We've got ice, exactly.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: The two hundred bucks is in the mail. I'm not

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Speaker 6: even kidding. I will send it to you. I'm I'm

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Speaker 6: pleasantly surprised, you're going to rushing, man, I'll.

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Speaker 11: Tell you wait, wait, wait till I show up in

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Speaker 11: russ at all.

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Speaker 3: Don't be pretty mature.

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Speaker 7: All right, all right, well, once I see you in that.

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Speaker 3: Corner, you can put the check in the mail.

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Speaker 7: All right, sounds good, ol Joe Ray, take care, all right,

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Speaker 7: take it.

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Speaker 3: See you guys.

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Speaker 6: Ray long ago with his weekly minute here on the

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Speaker 6: anicon Florian podcast. So, in terms of this Colby Covington,

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Speaker 6: Darren til Tyron Woodley triangle. So essentially it seems as

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Speaker 6: though Tyron would like to fight at UFC two twenty

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Speaker 6: eight September eighth in Dallas and strategically hard to blame

535
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Speaker 6: Woodley for trying to get Covington to turn around here quickly.

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Speaker 6: Here's what Colby said to CBS Sports can flow. We're

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Speaker 6: looking at doing it in November December. You know, I

538
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Speaker 6: need a little time off. I need to do a

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Speaker 6: little recovering. I'm only human, man, I got to get

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Speaker 6: a little vacation. I just can't keep running my body

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Speaker 6: through the ground going through training camps. You have to

542
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Speaker 6: be strategic, and you know, November December works for me.

543
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Speaker 6: I had little health issues after my fight. I'm getting

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Speaker 6: those taken care of, and by the year's end, I

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Speaker 6: will unify my belt and retire Tyron Woodley for good.

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Speaker 6: So depending on which angle you approach this from, it's

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Speaker 6: easy to make an argument. If you're the UFC the promoter,

548
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Speaker 6: certainly they need fights. If you're Tyron Woodley, as I mentioned,

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Speaker 6: maybe you're trying to get Colby Covington to turn around quickly.

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Speaker 6: But as far as I'm concerned, Colby Covington just won

551
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Speaker 6: one of the tough fights in this division against Tafeyel

552
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Speaker 6: dos Anjos to realize a UFC belt for the first time.

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Speaker 6: Granted it's the interim Welterweight Championship, but I would like

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Speaker 6: to see him afforded the benefit of a few weeks

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Speaker 6: off in a full training camp to unify the belt

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Speaker 6: with Tyron Woodley in an undisputed championship situation, in a

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Speaker 6: fight between seemingly the two best and most deserving guys,

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Speaker 6: there's heat between them, Like what am I missing? I mean,

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Speaker 6: I love Darren Till I think that's an amazing fight,

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Speaker 6: and maybe if he had made wait for the Stephen

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Speaker 6: Warner Boy Thompson fight, I wouldn't feel so convicted about this,

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Speaker 6: But how do.

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Speaker 7: You not make Woodley versus Covington.

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Speaker 8: Listen, I think Covington absolutely deserves that shot against Woodley.

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Speaker 8: You know he did, he had he had a very

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Speaker 8: tough fight against Dose Angos. He went five hard rounds,

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Speaker 8: And yeah, I think you know, if you could wait

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Speaker 8: another a few weeks till both those guys are are

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Speaker 8: injury free and want to fight, I think it makes sense. However,

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Speaker 8: from an ex excitement standpoint, what do you think is

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Speaker 8: going to be a more exciting fight till Till Woodley

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Speaker 8: or Covington Woodley?

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Speaker 6: Well, and I understand that, And obviously I go back

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Speaker 6: and forth and speak out of both sides of my

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Speaker 6: mouth in terms of promoter and fan and everything else.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, I mean in terms of excitement level on paper, sure,

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Speaker 6: I think that that fight has more upside, So I

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Speaker 6: wouldn't I could understand why the promotion would go that way.

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Speaker 6: And I guess, how do you how do you not

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Speaker 6: strip Colby in that situation? I mean, I guess there's

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Speaker 6: a way you could have Woodley until fight, have Colby

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Speaker 6: keep his status as the interim champ, and then if

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Speaker 6: Till beats Woodley, then his first effect I mean, I

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Speaker 6: think either way, Colby's next fight is gonna be for

585
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Speaker 6: the undisputed championship, So I don't think it's a huge

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Speaker 6: deal for them stripping the interim. It's not comparable to

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Speaker 6: the Tony Ferguson situation necessarily, But I don't know, man,

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Speaker 6: I guess I just I mean, I just like when

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Speaker 6: there's legitimate animosity in these matchups, and I don't think

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Speaker 6: there's much fabricated about what's going on between Woodley and Covington,

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Speaker 6: and I do think Darren til his future is going

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Speaker 6: to be in these championship fights. I just that is

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Speaker 6: as anticipated for me, just to see them stare down

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Speaker 6: and everything that goes with it, and maybe the fight

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Speaker 6: would overachieve between Woodley and Covington, but for me, it's like,

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Speaker 6: I just want to get there. I want to get

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Speaker 6: to fight week. I want to see the fight almost

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Speaker 6: be canceled because they almost fight at the way in Like,

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Speaker 6: I just want all of that hype and everything that

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Speaker 6: comes with that matchup. And the fact that I woke

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Speaker 6: up to the news that we might not get it,

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Speaker 6: I just was very surprised by it.

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Speaker 8: You know, no, absolutely, and it's frustrating. I know Tyron

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Speaker 8: Woodley is frustrated. I know the UFC is frustrated. All

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Speaker 8: parties really are frustrated. And again, I want to see

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Speaker 8: both these fights. You know, it doesn't matter to me.

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Speaker 8: I listen action wise, I think, you know, Darren Till

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Speaker 8: and Woodley would probably deliver a more exciting fight. But

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Speaker 8: as far as building up the fight, listen, Darren Till

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Speaker 8: can hype up a fight, but I think obviously you

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Speaker 8: get all that bad blood between Covington and Woodley. Obviously

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Speaker 8: that I think that could do very well as well.

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Speaker 8: So both excellent fights. I hope they're able to make

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Speaker 8: that Covington and Woodley fight happen, and we will see.

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Speaker 3: We will see man.

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Speaker 8: And it's been a little while since we've seen Woodley,

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Speaker 8: so yeah, I know he's been training hard and he's ready.

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Speaker 7: To go well.

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Speaker 6: And if they do need a headliner for two twenty

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Speaker 6: eight or two twenty nine and Colby can't speed up

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Speaker 6: his timeline, you know, hopefully Tyron Woodley would take the

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Speaker 6: dare Until fight. I think he called it a shit

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Speaker 6: show publicly, so I guess we're overdue to talk to

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Speaker 6: Teawood here on the podcast and see what he has

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Speaker 6: to say about all of this, but hopefully they can

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Speaker 6: make a fight one way or the other. I think

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Speaker 6: last appearance for Tyron Woodley was was July of twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 6: if I'm not mistaken. But interesting stuff there, nonetheless interesting

629
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Speaker 6: stuff when it comes to Daniel Cormier and Alexander Gustafsonders,

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Speaker 6: we sort of put a bow on this whole Lionheart Smith,

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Speaker 6: Showgun who a situation. Showgun's out of the mix now obviously,

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Speaker 6: And I do think Shogun who will fight again, he

633
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Speaker 6: still has won three of his last four on paper,

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Speaker 6: but Shogun who is not going to be fighting Daniel Cormier.

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Speaker 6: Kenny and I were never really of the belief that

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Speaker 6: DC was going to defend the light heavyweight title, at

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Speaker 6: least I can speak for myself.

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Speaker 7: I just thought that was.

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Speaker 6: Not gonna happen him cut the weight and everything that

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Speaker 6: goes with it. But Daniel with some very pointed remarks

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Speaker 6: to Alexander Gustafson, one of his foremost rivals in his career,

642
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Speaker 6: on Instagram. Here's what DC had to say, ken Flow,

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Speaker 6: Dear alex I don't know what happened to you. Going

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Speaker 6: back to the rock hold situation. You've always been a

645
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Speaker 6: stand up guy, but your behavior changed from calling a

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Speaker 6: guy out the day after he got knocked out to

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Speaker 6: now offering to fight me knowing I have a broken

648
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Speaker 6: hand after Vulcan couldn't go. Now you've turned down Yon,

649
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Speaker 6: turned down Khalil, all while calling for a heavyweight title fight,

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Speaker 6: and now, moments after Anthony Smith does his work like

651
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Speaker 6: an animal, you decide you're hurt.

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Speaker 7: Man. I respect you as a fighter. I will always

653
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Speaker 7: be grateful for October.

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Speaker 6: Twenty fifteen, but you and I won't share the octagon again.

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Speaker 6: I'm disappointed in whom you've become. You're so entitled, man.

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Speaker 6: I can't deal with delusional people. Good luck recovering. Our

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Speaker 6: time has passed. See you from the commentary table DC

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Speaker 6: hashtag we go our separate ways with the picture of

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Speaker 6: them literally from their fight at UFC one ninety two

660
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Speaker 6: walking in different directions. So we thought the rematch was

661
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Speaker 6: a huge reach and wasn't going to happen between DC

662
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Speaker 6: and Gustafson to begin with. We also now know that

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Speaker 6: Gustafson reportedly informed the promotion before the Anthony Smith result

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Speaker 6: even happened, that he was not going to be competing

665
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Speaker 6: at UFC two twenty seven, So there is that layer

666
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Speaker 6: to it as well. But your thoughts ken fall on

667
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Speaker 6: what Cormier had to say about Gustafson and his line

668
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Speaker 6: of thinking on a lot of these things.

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Speaker 3: Listen, I think Daniel's probably frustrated.

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Speaker 8: You know, if you want to build up fights, you

671
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Speaker 8: need a guy who's gonna come in, who's gonna be reliable,

672
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Speaker 8: who's not going to be injured, a guy who has

673
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Speaker 8: been pretty consistent. That's bringing a fan following into the

674
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Speaker 8: fold because you want the biggest fight possible. Now Gustafson.

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Speaker 8: That aside, Gustafson is a tough out. He is a

676
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Speaker 8: tremendous fighter, a guy who can absolutely be a champion

677
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Speaker 8: in that division. We can bring up the fact that

678
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Speaker 8: his fight against Daniel Cormier was very close. His fight

679
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 8: against John Jones was even closer. He could have won

680
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Speaker 8: that fight. A lot of people believe he actually won it.

681
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Speaker 8: It was an unbelievable fight. He's a great fighter, but

682
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Speaker 8: he hasn't been very consistent lately. And I know him,

683
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Speaker 8: I know his manager. Both great people, but it's gonna

684
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Speaker 8: be tough to ask for these big fights if you

685
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Speaker 8: haven't been that consistent and if he can't build up

686
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Speaker 8: a good fight, and I know he's asking for that fight,

687
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Speaker 8: He's doing his best in that regard, but not being

688
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Speaker 8: consistent and being injured consistently consistently, it isn't the best

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Speaker 8: way to build up a fight and ask for a

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Speaker 8: championship fight.

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Speaker 7: Right, No, I think those are all fair points.

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Speaker 6: And yes, I know his manager as well, Nima, so

693
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Speaker 6: good eggs, good people and outstanding fighter. I mean when

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Speaker 6: I'm having a conversation about the best fighters in UFC

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Speaker 6: history to have never been belted with an undisputed title,

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Speaker 6: I mean that conversation for me starts with guys like

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Speaker 6: Alexander Gustus and Chad Mendez and the rest. All right,

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Speaker 6: program here, folks, he is the pro Fighter's head Brazilian

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Speaker 6: jiu jitsu coaching, American Top Team grand Master Carlson Gracie fifth,

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Speaker 6: the Greed jiu Jitsu black belt, and a man who

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Speaker 6: this past weekend won his final mixed martial arts fight,

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Speaker 6: and a ripe forty five years old, the great Pahoopah

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Speaker 6: Marcos Demata is with us, my man.

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Speaker 7: How are you?

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Speaker 4: How you doing?

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Speaker 12: Guys, Dick for having me as an honor to be

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Speaker 12: here for the first time. If you fight, you find

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Speaker 12: you that just I had to retire to being a

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Speaker 12: podcast I went to earlier.

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Speaker 7: I regret that we haven't had y on sooner.

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Speaker 6: I know at times we've talked about bringing you on

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Speaker 6: just from a coaching standpoint, and we'll get into some

742
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Speaker 6: of that, but I want to talk about the MMA

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Speaker 6: fighter and wish you congratulations because you're a guy who

744
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Speaker 6: didn't make your pro MMA debut until it was two

745
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Speaker 6: weeks after your thirty fourth birthday, and as I understand it,

746
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Speaker 6: you really started fighting just to become a better coach

747
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Speaker 6: to pro mixed martial arts athletes.

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Speaker 12: Correct, Yes, you know, to be to be in a

749
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Speaker 12: room with killers. You know, you have to exeril yourself,

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Speaker 12: you know, and in the early stages of the American

751
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Speaker 12: Top Team, I had to teach guys black belts to

752
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Speaker 12: go to UH Mixed Martial Arts important fights like UH

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Speaker 12: Jay z Or Radio or Herbie's Franca, Wilson Gove and

754
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Speaker 12: all Thiago Pitbull, all this Glease and Tibau.

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Speaker 4: So I knew that I had.

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Speaker 12: To excel myself on my jiu jitsu games. So for that,

757
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Speaker 12: I started training with them and I was kind of

758
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Speaker 12: like doing pretty well, you know.

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Speaker 4: On the match. So I said, you know, I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: test a little bit, you know.

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Speaker 12: To see if my game is gonna be good enough

762
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Speaker 12: for MMA, so I can keep evolving. And that turns

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Speaker 12: into like an obsession that to get better and better

764
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Speaker 12: for them and maybe fights. The original idea was actually

765
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Speaker 12: five fights, but now I ended up my career with

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Speaker 12: fifteen fights, which I'm really glad that I've done it, you.

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Speaker 8: Know, but it's it's inspiring, man, what you've done. And

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Speaker 8: obviously this weekend you fought you were successful.

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Speaker 3: How did it go for you, man?

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Speaker 12: I mean it was it was it was really hard,

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Speaker 12: ken He because three and a half weeks ago I

772
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Speaker 12: was in Europe teaching a lot of seminars and both

773
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Speaker 12: of you guys know how how traveling affects your training,

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Speaker 12: and how traveling affects your dyeting, your sleep, you know.

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Speaker 4: And unfortunately I don't travel business class, you know, so

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Speaker 4: in and out of the airplanes were a hassle for me.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 12: So when I got back home, it was three and

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Speaker 12: a half weeks to prepare for a fight against a

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Speaker 12: guy that could.

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Speaker 4: Be be my son. He's twenty, he was twenty five

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Speaker 4: years old. I'm forty five.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 12: Obviously he was not a monster, a very sekewed individual,

785
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Speaker 12: but just being years younger than me, everything is more difficult.

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Speaker 12: Everything is is a fight for every inch of every

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Speaker 12: single second of the fight, you know.

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Speaker 4: And the weight cut was horrible. I had. I had

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Speaker 4: a few incidents that I was not proud of, but

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Speaker 4: I had.

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Speaker 13: To do to make sure that I give example that

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Speaker 13: I was going to make for forty six, you know,

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Speaker 13: and come out, you know, give an example to the

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Speaker 13: young fighters that it doesn't matter your contract weight sets

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Speaker 13: one forty six.

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Speaker 4: You have to make it, you know.

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Speaker 8: I made.

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Speaker 12: I recover as much as I could, I recover as

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Speaker 12: well as I could, and I think at the end

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Speaker 12: of the day, my experience took me to the to

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Speaker 12: the win and to the submission that I was what

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Speaker 12: I always wanted.

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Speaker 8: You know, well it was another beautiful display a jiu

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Speaker 8: jitsu man. And you know, for you coming from that

805
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Speaker 8: jiu jitsu background, how have you seen jiu jitsu?

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Speaker 3: I guess advance and.

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Speaker 8: You know, just just going from what you knew as

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Speaker 8: jiu jitsu to what the sport is now and also

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Speaker 8: how it's evolved from sport to the mixed martial arts element,

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Speaker 8: can you talk about that a little bit absolutely?

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Speaker 9: You know, in my opinion, there's three ways that you

812
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Speaker 9: can approach jiu jitsu, and those three ways are completely

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Speaker 9: different than each other, even though it looks it may

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Speaker 9: look for.

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Speaker 12: For a bystander, it looked like the same, but it's not.

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Speaker 12: One approach is the jiu jitsu with the gi, which

817
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Speaker 12: we have all the tournaments, the competitions, the sports jiu jitsu,

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Speaker 12: and then after that you always go into a phase

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Speaker 12: of the no gi grappling, which is another part of

820
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Speaker 12: jiu jitsu, which is obviously you don't have a gi.

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Speaker 12: There is a more a lot more leg attacks and

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Speaker 12: some things that are you're not allowed to do in

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Speaker 12: the gi, but you do you are allowed to do

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Speaker 12: with no gi. And then on top of that, different

825
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Speaker 12: than the other two ones is the jiu jitsu for MMA.

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Speaker 12: If a black belt do not understand that you will

827
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Speaker 12: have to deal with three different martial arts. You will

828
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Speaker 12: not understand. I can give you two amazing jiu jitsu players.

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Speaker 12: One of them, to me is the greatest of all time.

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Speaker 12: His name is Marcelo Garcia. I had the privilege of

831
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Speaker 12: the honor to train with him at American Top Team

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Speaker 12: and to train him for his fight.

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Speaker 4: You know that guy, you can't.

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Speaker 12: I don't have the worst to explain how I feel

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Speaker 12: about that guy, but if you see his MEME five,

836
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Speaker 12: he did not.

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Speaker 4: Transition very well.

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Speaker 12: Another one is Brady Astima, who had I think maybe

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Speaker 12: one or two of Meme five's, but they were not

840
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Speaker 12: great MMA. He got the job done even though Marcella couldn't.

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Speaker 12: But he probably got the job done but was not

842
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Speaker 12: I would say the way I seem you know.

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Speaker 4: So, there are so many elements.

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Speaker 12: If you don't use wrestling or judo to take the

845
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Speaker 12: fight to the ground, you're not gonna be successful.

846
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Speaker 4: You try to shoot from far.

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Speaker 12: The wrestlers nowadays, oh let me rephrase, not even the wrestlers.

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Speaker 12: If you get a guy that you know wrestling high school,

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Speaker 12: for example, maybe one season, he.

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Speaker 4: Knows how to the's in a double like pretty easy.

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Speaker 4: You know, if you don't set up with your punches.

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Speaker 12: Now you're putting punches to set up a double leg

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Speaker 12: takedown or a single leg takedown, or set up your

854
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Speaker 12: clinch that you can actually go to a judo throw,

855
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Speaker 12: and when you get to the ground use your ground

856
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Speaker 12: and pound to set up your submissions.

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Speaker 4: You're not gonna be able to pull guard.

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Speaker 12: You're not gonna be able to do any kind of

859
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Speaker 12: beauty battle fifty to fifty, any of those.

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Speaker 4: In MMA and be successful. You know. So it's such

861
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Speaker 4: a complex game.

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Speaker 12: And now I see that people are kind of like

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Speaker 12: understanding a little bit, but it's still there's a lot

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Speaker 12: of a lot of people that has so many holes

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Speaker 12: in jiujita.

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Speaker 4: Friend, they made that.

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Speaker 6: I see Marcostamata American Top Team with us here on

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Speaker 6: my jiu jitsu coach is the man on the line

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Speaker 6: right now. I've only been to five classes in my life,

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Speaker 6: but Bahoopa taught all of them, But I just want

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Speaker 6: to set this up very quickly because I don't know

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Speaker 6: if I'm a bad friend or if I'm a good friend.

874
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 6: But I was in the building for your final pro

875
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 6: MMA fight this Saturday night, Palm Beach Convention Center. I

876
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 6: was there for three hours and fifteen minutes. I was

877
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 6: there for the first twelve fights, or at least twelve

878
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 6: fights total. But my man, I left before your fight,

879
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,280
Speaker 6: and I don't know that my intention was to admit

880
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 6: this to the masses here today, but they do know

881
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 6: that I have a three week old baby, so perhaps

882
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 6: that gives me a little bit of a leash, my man,

883
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 6: But I wanted so badly to be able to watch

884
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 6: you compete, and I had to race home and be

885
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 6: home by midnight when I turned into a pumpkin. So

886
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 6: I apologize for not sticking it out, but I was

887
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 6: very thankful that you got the win and it was

888
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 6: by Katakatame. My research tells me maybe the first head

889
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 6: and arm choke win of your MMA career as a

890
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 6: pro Is that true or not?

891
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 12: No, Actually it's funny because I had fifteen fives my

892
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 12: first very first my debut, I finished with OK, and

893
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 12: now I closed down my career with this is so.

894
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 4: Random, you know.

895
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 6: So, so how do you feel about our friendship based

896
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 6: upon me leaving before your flight?

897
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 4: Man, I totally understand, you know. I knew that was

898
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 4: going to be uh a little late for a lot

899
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 4: of people, you know.

900
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 12: I just wish some of the decisions would be knockouts

901
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 12: before me, so everybody could make it, you know. But

902
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 12: I understand, you know, especially to you that you have,

903
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 12: you know, a baby at home.

904
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 4: But you were there in spirit, you know, you saw

905
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 4: the atmosphere.

906
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,720
Speaker 7: I believe there was a lot.

907
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 4: Of people treating up for me. When I came out,

908
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 4: I felt the energy towards me, you know, it was

909
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 4: it was great.

910
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 3: It was great, good.

911
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 6: A lot of att representation. Dan Lambert of course was there.

912
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 6: Enrique Barzola. I saw Pedro Munoz there. Pedro's got a

913
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 6: fight coming up in La actually on August fourth. So

914
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 6: all right, a couple more things before we let you go.

915
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 6: So next travel for you. Next UFC cornering assignment. When

916
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 6: will we see you next?

917
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 12: Right around the corner, I'm going to Calvary for godjo

918
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 12: and Tingulov Nina answer off right and Joanna, Dusty Koyer

919
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 12: all the trips, you know, even though I'm not going

920
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 12: to corner all of them, but I'm gonna be there

921
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 12: helping them out.

922
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be cornering God again. And I guess that's it.

923
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,919
Speaker 6: Rather amazing here here, And you just rip off those

924
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 6: names in your second language. Gads more at antigolav face

925
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 6: and he want kute Laba. So Dustin Pourier in that

926
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,720
Speaker 6: main event in Calgary, how much have you worked with Dustin?

927
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 6: I know how excited Mike Brown is about him. How

928
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 6: much time have you spent with Dustin over the last

929
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 6: couple of years as he's re emerged at fifty five?

930
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, not much. You know, Dustin is a very

931
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 4: good friend.

932
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 12: He's a he's an amazing fighter, but he likes to

933
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 12: do his things with a separate you know. And I've

934
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 12: helped him, of course. I helped him on the Madison

935
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 12: every time, and i've seen him making a mistake. I

936
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 12: go there and talk to him, you know, but I

937
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 12: like to.

938
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 4: Always go through his coaches to you know, just to

939
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 4: respect everybody. You know. The answer. I helped him, but

940
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 4: I'm not deeply involved in.

941
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 7: His skim Yeah, all right.

942
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 6: So last thing in terms of the fighters that you

943
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 6: work with right now, whether it's a fighter in the

944
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 6: UFC at American Top Team or a fighter outside the UFC.

945
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 6: Can you give us a name of someone that you're

946
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 6: really excited about. I hate to make you single somebody out,

947
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 6: but maybe a name that we're not talking about that

948
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 6: you think is making the right strides to eventually make

949
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 6: some noise.

950
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 4: Yeah. Sure. Thiago Moyses.

951
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 12: He was the RFA Champion one fifty five down champion.

952
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 12: They merged to La Fay. Unfortunately he lost his belt,

953
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 12: but he came back last show with a beautiful submission win.

954
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 12: He had the submission of the year, the helicopter arm bar.

955
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 12: It was a couple of years ago. You know, he's

956
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 12: a monster. He's a guy that you guys should be

957
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 12: looking up to, you know, should should? I think he's

958
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 12: gonna shake a little bit of the division because he's

959
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,439
Speaker 12: the real d He has as striking as wrestling. He's

960
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 12: really young, even though he looks forty, but he's like

961
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 12: he's like twenty two, you know.

962
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 4: But he's a he's a monster. He's gonna be the

963
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 4: one that I'm really excited about.

964
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 6: It all right, man, Well, congratulations on a big weekend.

965
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 6: I have not ordered the Dollarer mats for my garage yet.

966
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 6: I'm trying to strengthen my core first, but as soon

967
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 6: as I do that, we're gonna start those privates in

968
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 6: my garage. God fucking helped me, but we're gonna.

969
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 4: Do it for sure.

970
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 12: And I was really looking forward to go to LA

971
00:43:55,280 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 12: next week because I was gonna visit Medaki, yes, but

972
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 12: what Unfortunately I'm not going to LA.

973
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 4: I'm going to New York for.

974
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 12: Yeah, for another show for the Pflago. I'm sorry who

975
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 12: was in my corner in my fight. He's gonna be

976
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,439
Speaker 12: taking care of what right there. But uh, I'm looking

977
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 12: forward to.

978
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 8: Visit you, Kenny, dude, Please, You're always welcome man, and

979
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 8: uh By Banks Man, that's awesome and you're an.

980
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 3: Inspiration than guy.

981
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 6: Marcos Dematta, congrats on going out in style man, your

982
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 6: son with you there in the cage.

983
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 7: What a moment. Very happy for you man.

984
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 4: Thank you so much. Honored to be here guys, to

985
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 4: see you guys soon.

986
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 7: There is Marcos Demata paho.

987
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 6: Originally poo because Ken Flow knows and when Kenny, can

988
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:44,919
Speaker 6: you just say pahom for our audi.

989
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 7: This sounds so good off the top.

990
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 6: So according to halfay L das fellow Mixed Martial Artists,

991
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 6: American top team member and friend of Pahoopa, and this

992
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 6: comes from like an internet chat room. But Pahompina came

993
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 6: about because there was a famous figure in Copa Cabana,

994
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 6: where Pahoopa spent most of his childhood days.

995
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 7: Pahoopa was a family name and.

996
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 6: Looked a lot like Marcos, so his friend started calling

997
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 6: him pahom Pina, which is small Pahoopa and a team.

998
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:21,959
Speaker 6: He graduated to Pahoopa and now he is affectionately known

999
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 6: in the MMA world as Pahoopa hell of a jiu

1000
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 6: jitsu coach. And I can speak from personal experience a

1001
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 6: little bit, of course, but big picture, he trained a

1002
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 6: lot of UFC guys and names that you've heard of,

1003
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 6: Nina answer off you heard going to compete soon Antonio

1004
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 6: Carlos Junior, who may not get a slot at UFC

1005
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 6: two twenty seven. But good egg right there, And what

1006
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 6: a pussy I am for leaving early ken Flow. I mean,

1007
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 6: now's the time of the show where I defend myself

1008
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:46,879
Speaker 6: a little bit. So I was gonna be gone from

1009
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 6: seven to midnight. Okay, so I missed out on bedtime.

1010
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 7: Right.

1011
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 6: My wife's got two daughters six and five, and then

1012
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 6: are new born, so you know, I mean, I show up.

1013
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 6: I was there at eight o'clock. He said he was

1014
00:45:58,040 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 6: going to fight around ten. I didn't know he was

1015
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 6: in the main event, you know. So ten o'clock comes

1016
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 6: and goes, yeah, I'm dude, I'm fighting it.

1017
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 7: Man, I've exhausted. You missed a lot.

1018
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 8: You missed a lot of my fights as well, all right.

1019
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 8: I mean we didn't know each other at the time,

1020
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 8: but still you missed them.

1021
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 6: So I went back and watched every goddamn one of them.

1022
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 6: I couldn't find footage of Pahoopa's win over the weekend.

1023
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 6: But yeah, I mean, so eleven o'clock rolls around and

1024
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 6: I'm like, you know what.

1025
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 7: I gotta go.

1026
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 3: I gotta go.

1027
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,760
Speaker 6: You know there's another fight. It wasn't walking till eleven

1028
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 6: forty five. I don't know what to tell you. A

1029
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,399
Speaker 6: local shows you can never predict, man, they go so long.

1030
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a miss.

1031
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:37,919
Speaker 6: I mean again, tremendous, tremendously weak minded individual I am.

1032
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 6: And there's my public apology. I mean, can you can

1033
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 6: imagine what I feel like. I got three kids. That's

1034
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 6: that's the ultimate excuse for anything. Can imagine the emotions though,

1035
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 6: right like I I made the commitment, I wanted to

1036
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 6: go support someone who's been very supportive to me and

1037
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:56,399
Speaker 6: train me in jiu jitsu, however limitedly. And and then

1038
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 6: to be walking back to my car having not seen

1039
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 6: the guy fight, I'm luck at it. Punch a goddamn

1040
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 6: hole of my car winds.

1041
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 8: Instead, you supported guys you didn't know for three hours

1042
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 8: and fifteen minutes.

1043
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 7: You're right, exactly right, I did.

1044
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 6: And I'm just hoping that they get to the big

1045
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 6: show so I can say, hey, you know what, July

1046
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 6: twenty first of twenty eighteen, I was there at the

1047
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 6: Palm Beach County Convention Center when you went the distance

1048
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 6: with that other guy. All right, good stuff there from

1049
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 6: PAHOMPA last thing before we spin this thing forward to

1050
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,720
Speaker 6: the main event challenge and what is a big weekend

1051
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 6: in Calgary. I want to get your thoughts on this

1052
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 6: comin event between Glover to Shara and Corey Anderson, because

1053
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 6: you picked Corey Anderson about a plus one eighty or

1054
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 6: so underdog. I know, Mark Henry texted me right after

1055
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 6: the fight. He said, I thought the price would have

1056
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 6: been a little sweeter for Corey, but this was a

1057
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 6: huge win against a very strong grappler in Glover to

1058
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 6: shaa and I thought largely a near perfect performance from

1059
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:53,240
Speaker 6: Corey Anderson on short notice. Worked the jab very well

1060
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 6: and when he gets that body locked, with his persistence

1061
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,280
Speaker 6: and his cardio and everything else, Corey Anderson's a real problem.

1062
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 6: We've said it on the airwaves for a long time

1063
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 6: that depending on the matchup, Corey Anderson is going to

1064
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 6: be a real threat to a lot of these two

1065
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 6: OH fibers.

1066
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 8: Well, he was worth the underdog bet because of the

1067
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 8: way he matched up against Glover. To share it, Glover,

1068
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 8: it is dangerous on the feet. He definitely hits harder

1069
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 8: than Corey Anderson has more experience there and he is

1070
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 8: a Brazilian jitsu black belt, but he doesn't really get

1071
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 8: the job done when he's on his back, you know

1072
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 8: from his guard, he is not as much of a

1073
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 8: threat than when he's on top on the mat.

1074
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 3: And for Corey.

1075
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 8: Anderson the wrestler, he was able to set up his

1076
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 8: takedowns very well. He put together those chained takedowns, able

1077
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 8: to get those Matt returns and was frustrating Glover consistently.

1078
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,919
Speaker 3: And Glover has been slowing down.

1079
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 8: He's later in his career, obviously, he's been fighting a

1080
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 8: very long time. Corey had youth on his side, and

1081
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 8: really it just it was one or lost with the wrestling.

1082
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 8: Corey was able to, you know, hit those takedowns consistently

1083
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 8: and won the fight. So yeah, it was a good

1084
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 8: performance from Corey and one that's definitely going to give

1085
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 8: him a lot of confidence moving forward. I think for Corey,

1086
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 8: he came into this game with not a whole lot

1087
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 8: of experience and now getting a big win like that

1088
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 8: over the number three guy in the world in that

1089
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Speaker 8: way class is only going to give him more confidence

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Speaker 8: moving forward.

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Speaker 6: And Mark Henry said to me Kenny that they're fifteen

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Speaker 6: and one in their last sixteen. I don't know if

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00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:25,439
Speaker 6: that's UFC or just overall MMA, but for that, Mark

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00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 6: Henry Hiccardo al made a lad squad fifteen and one

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Speaker 6: over their last sixteen And of course they'll be cornering

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Speaker 6: Eddie Alvarez in the main event this week and our

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00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 6: final thing on the Germany show, and it's going to

1098
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 6: be a forgettable show and a lot of respects just

1099
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Speaker 6: because a lot of the fights went the distance.

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Speaker 7: But I just wanted a final thought on Stephan.

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Speaker 6: Struve because at least if social media is any indication,

1102
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Speaker 6: there was a lot of frustration with this performance, and

1103
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 6: Struve needs to hit the reset button, obviously, and he

1104
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 6: sort of maybe hinted that he would step away from

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Speaker 6: mixed martial arts and either prevent further damage and maybe

1106
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 6: he's exhausted this window. I think it seems very clear

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Speaker 6: to people that he's not going to realize a UFC

1108
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,760
Speaker 6: heavyweight championship, And when you see him sort of idling

1109
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,280
Speaker 6: in space and not leaning on an educated jab twenty

1110
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 6: fights into a UFC career, I can understand why frustration

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Speaker 6: creeps in for a lot of fans. Your thoughts on

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Speaker 6: Stephan Struve's effort here in defeat to march In Tabora, Yeah, well.

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Speaker 8: This is definitely in line what I was saying yesterday.

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Speaker 8: I couldn't agree with you more. I feel like a

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Speaker 8: guy like Stephan Struve, who came into this game, what

1116
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:33,399
Speaker 8: like twenty years old in the UFC, I thought we

1117
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 8: saw a huge future for him, and I thought he

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Speaker 8: could really be developed.

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Speaker 7: Well.

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Speaker 8: Again, I don't know if this is a lack of

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Speaker 8: work ethic on his part. I don't know if it's

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Speaker 8: a you know, maybe him not clicking with some of

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Speaker 8: the coaches or whatever it is. But Stephan struve should

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00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 8: be way better than what he's showing out there. You know,

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00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 8: that is clear. He has this huge frame almost seven

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Speaker 8: feet tall, a long reach with the second longest reach

1127
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,760
Speaker 8: in the UFC, and he's not able to keep guys

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Speaker 8: on the outside. You know, his wrestling should have shown

1129
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 8: that it was way better. You know, you can't give

1130
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 8: up take takedowns to a guy like Marchen Tibora like that.

1131
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 8: You just can't, and and then to be rendered completely

1132
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 8: ineffective off of your back. I mean, Marchen is a

1133
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 8: good fighter, but if you want to be elite, and

1134
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 8: this is no disrespect.

1135
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Speaker 3: For to Bora, you gotta beat guys like that. You

1136
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 3: gotta beat.

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00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 8: Guys like that, especially if you've been in the game

1138
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 8: this long and have that amount of experience. And you know,

1139
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 8: I don't think it's a terrible idea for Stepan to

1140
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,720
Speaker 8: retire and he's still young, but at least get something

1141
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 8: else going in his.

1142
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:43,240
Speaker 3: Life that he could start, because he.

1143
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 8: Just hasn't improved the way he should. He should be

1144
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 8: way better as a fighter than what he showed yesterday.

1145
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 6: And at times I have certainly felt his love for

1146
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 6: martial arts and perhaps there would be some coaching in

1147
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 6: his future, or he just wants to step away completely, right,

1148
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 6: I mean, I don't I don't know that he has

1149
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 6: the bug for any of these individual arts the way

1150
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 6: you do for jiu jitsu. It was going to be

1151
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,439
Speaker 6: a cornerstone of your life from the day you first

1152
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:10,720
Speaker 6: hit a mat, right, you just sort of get that bug.

1153
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 6: I don't know, We'll see, but he seemed to hint

1154
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 6: that he wanted to sort of step away completely and

1155
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 6: would be hard to argue I think with that line

1156
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 6: of thinking based upon recent results. But just a really

1157
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 6: good guy and a guy who a lot of people

1158
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,839
Speaker 6: thought he could maximize his utility and his seven foot

1159
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 6: frame and really cause some headaches in the heavyweight division. Instead,

1160
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 6: he's been on the wrong end of a lot of

1161
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 6: those headaches. But a good show in Germany. It's going

1162
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 6: to be remembered, obviously for Anthony lyonheart Smith and and

1163
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 6: happy for him and what he was able to accomplish

1164
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 6: there over the weekend, but Calgary beckins to that end.

1165
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 7: Let's get to the main event challenge.

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Speaker 5: It's the main event challenge.

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Speaker 6: The time is most definitely I finished fine, how do

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00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 6: you everything?

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Speaker 4: Both will do.

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Speaker 5: Win the main event challenge? John Nnick and Kenny Florian podcast.

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Speaker 6: So ken Flow is catching fire, ladies and gentlemen. Team

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00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 6: Annik led it. Eighty eight seventy seven heading in to Hamburg.

1173
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Speaker 6: I don't know if it's Hamburg or Hamburg. They went

1174
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 6: Hamburg on the telecast, which makes me think that's what

1175
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 6: it is. Didn't do the right prep today, so you

1176
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 6: went head to head with Ricardo Montero Hernandez. So you're

1177
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 6: not gonna believe this, folks. Ken Flow texted me over

1178
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 6: the weekend and inexplicably changed his main event selection from

1179
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:30,399
Speaker 6: Anthony Smith to Mauricio shogun Hua. So instead of winning

1180
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Speaker 6: the week for nil, you'll have to settle for two

1181
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,760
Speaker 6: to nil. It is still your third consecutive winning week.

1182
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 6: Those points courtesy of Corey Anderson's win. By the way,

1183
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 6: Hiss Underdog over Glover to Shriff, So we are tight here,

1184
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:43,879
Speaker 6: tighter than we've been in a long time.

1185
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Speaker 7: Eighty eight seventy nine and now we spin it.

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Speaker 6: Four July twenty eighth UFC Fight Night on Fox, Calgary, Alberta, Canada,

1187
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Speaker 6: and with us to make picks today from Northeast Maryland,

1188
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Speaker 6: Tommy Feelin is with us.

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Speaker 7: Tom how are you man?

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Speaker 10: I'm doing well. How are you guys?

1191
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 7: We are doing well.

1192
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 6: I appreciate you listening to the show and obviously you

1193
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 6: hopping on. I know we've had you in the queue

1194
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,399
Speaker 6: for a while, so thanks for your patience. Let's get

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00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 6: to this main card. It's a good one coming up

1196
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 6: this weekend. First fight you will see at least on

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Speaker 6: the main card on Fox. Prelums might be on Fox

1198
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 6: as well. Olivier obam mercya trying to hold serve here,

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Speaker 6: the Canadian gangster on Canadian soil, taking on thirteenth ranked

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Speaker 6: Alexander Hernandez.

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Speaker 7: Tommy, who do you like?

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Speaker 10: They're both coming off huge first round knockouts, so they

1203
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 10: can both finish fights. But know that I think Om's

1204
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 10: going to have the edge just with his experience in

1205
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 10: the UFC. Hernandez is new possible dondaso practitioner. Maybe fake

1206
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:43,399
Speaker 10: that the glove touch at the beginning of his fight,

1207
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 10: right but I think Oam is going to bring the

1208
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 10: beat down in his Fanni pack.

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Speaker 7: They did.

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Speaker 6: They sent us Reebok sent us all fanny packs that

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Speaker 6: I will be wearing on way and day there in Calgary.

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00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 6: But you bring up a lot of good points and

1213
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 6: a lot of people too. With Alexander Hernandez will reference

1214
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,760
Speaker 6: that you know, faked glove touch and he melted Benil

1215
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Speaker 6: Dargus shortly thereafter Ken Flow. So Obam Mercier is not

1216
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 6: ranked right now despite having won his last four. He

1217
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 6: stopped Evan Dunham that was at UFC two to twenty

1218
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Speaker 6: three in April. Hernandez is all the raids right now.

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Speaker 6: He's won seven in a row. Given the nature of

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Speaker 6: the dark ushwin, he's the guy with the number next

1221
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 6: to his name. Who do you think gets it done here?

1222
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Speaker 6: Obama Mercier or Alexander Hernandez.

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Speaker 8: This is a tough one. I think Oam has a

1224
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 8: lot more experience. This guy can crack as well. I

1225
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 8: think Hernandez is way faster, and I think he's got

1226
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 8: the background in order to stop that grappling and kind

1227
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 8: of yeah, perhaps new to the grappling of Oam.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with Hernandez here. I think he gets

1229
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Speaker 3: the win.

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Speaker 6: And again no betting line as yet on a lot

1231
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Speaker 6: of these, so we will adjust the standings accordingly. Also

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Speaker 6: part of what is a banging main card in Calgary,

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Speaker 6: former strawwaight, Queen Johanna Young Jchack back to back losses

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Speaker 6: to ros Nama junis here. She jaws Tsha Torres, first

1235
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Speaker 6: three round fight for Joanna since December of twenty fourteen.

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Speaker 6: Tisha Torres Tommy is obviously right there. She is coming

1237
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,280
Speaker 6: off a loss to Jessica ANDRAJ. How do you forecast

1238
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Speaker 6: this one shaking out at one hundred and fifteen pounds?

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Speaker 10: My man, this one's interesting to me because now Torres

1240
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 10: is training with Rose, so she'll probably be getting tips

1241
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 10: and Rose will be able to tell her some of

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Speaker 10: JJ's weaknesses. As you said, it's Joanna's first non title

1243
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 10: fight since Carla Sparza, but I think since it's only

1244
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 10: three rounds, she won't have to watch her energy. She'll

1245
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 10: be able to go just all out. I don't think

1246
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 10: Torres will be able to stop her from throwing her

1247
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 10: combos and finishing them with the kicks. It's close to me,

1248
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 10: I think with Tori's training with Rose, But I think

1249
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Speaker 10: JJ gets it all right.

1250
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Speaker 6: You wanna young j check for Tommy Kenny. Interesting fight

1251
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 6: in a lot of respects. For me, I'm curious how

1252
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 6: Tisha's going to approach it, if she's going to maybe

1253
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,319
Speaker 6: try to ground things early. But a very interesting fight.

1254
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 6: I think you want to probably be about a two

1255
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 6: to one favorite. Some people think it might be more

1256
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 6: pronounced than that. Your thoughts on what is a very

1257
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,240
Speaker 6: important fight here at one point fifteen.

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Speaker 8: Well, one thing I think is for sure is Tsha

1259
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 8: Torres is most likely going to show up. You want

1260
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 8: a young J Check. I just don't know how is

1261
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 8: she going to come into this fight confidence wise? You know,

1262
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 8: after losing the Rose noammunis twice in a row and

1263
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 8: no shame in that and that and those losses. Obviously

1264
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 8: Rose a tremendous fighter, really has matured, has so many skills.

1265
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 8: But for you wanna Tisha is the type of fighter

1266
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 8: who can get in and get out, strike and really

1267
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 8: frustrate you within fifteen minutes. She tends to struggle against

1268
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 8: people like andrage. People are trying to take her down,

1269
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 8: people are trying to wrestle her. You want a young

1270
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 8: J check isn't going to do that. I don't think

1271
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 8: she really has to worry about that, and Tisha is

1272
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 8: just as fast as.

1273
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Speaker 3: You want a young j check.

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Speaker 8: In my opinion, if yu Wanta shows up with her

1275
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 8: confidence and is motivated and looking to get that belt back,

1276
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 8: I think you want to should win this fight. But

1277
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Speaker 8: Tisha really can pose a lot of problems.

1278
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go.

1279
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 8: If you want to, hear, I think you want to

1280
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 8: will be able to outpoint her. I think it's going

1281
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 8: to be a closer fight than a lot of people

1282
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 8: think though.

1283
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 6: And again based upon the betting line, and Tommy, this

1284
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 6: applies to you as well. Feel free to text me

1285
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 6: guys and change your picks as Kenny did a week ago,

1286
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 6: and Team Annik will fucking take it all right. Cole

1287
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Speaker 6: Maine event, former UFC featherweight Champion, the consensus greatest one

1288
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Speaker 6: hundred and forty five pound fighter of all time, Jose

1289
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 6: Aldo facing Jeremy Lil Heathen Stevens. Stevens set for his

1290
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 6: twenty ninth UFC appearance here. Tommy, it looks as though

1291
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 6: Jose Aldo is going to be the slight favorite here.

1292
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 6: Early during fight week, your thoughts on Aldo and Stevens

1293
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 6: in the Komak.

1294
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Speaker 10: I think Alvo is going to come out hungry for

1295
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 10: this one. He's actually the second champion on this card

1296
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 10: to lose twice to the same guy or well Joanna

1297
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 10: the same girl, right, But I think he's going to

1298
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 10: come out hungry. I think he's going to use his timing,

1299
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 10: his reads, and his counters. Stevens can tend to get

1300
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 10: a bit reckless, even though he does have dynamite in

1301
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 10: his hands. I think Aldo is going to I'm in

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Speaker 10: if he brings the leg kicks to the table. Slow

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Speaker 10: Stephen Stephens down a bit. I think he's gonna take

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Speaker 10: it all right.

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Speaker 6: Joseado for Tommy ken Flow after he combined fifteen title

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Speaker 6: fights in the WEC and UFC combined. I just said

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Speaker 6: combined twice. This will be the first non title three

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Speaker 6: round fight for Jose Aldo in nearly ten years, dating

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Speaker 6: to two thousand and nine. His first three rounder in

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Speaker 6: the UFC. This man fought our guy Ken Flow. Of

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Speaker 6: course it was October of twenty eleven. Huge spot for

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Speaker 6: your boy Jose Aldo. This weekend can flow. How does

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Speaker 6: it go for him against Jeremy Stevens.

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Speaker 3: This is a tough one.

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Speaker 8: You know, we haven't really been hearing too much out

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Speaker 8: of the Aldo camp either. Listen, he lost to a

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Speaker 8: great fighter in Max Holloway. Max Hollowy really, you know,

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Speaker 8: kind of has his number, but he has also set

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Speaker 8: a blueprint.

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Speaker 3: You get your confidence from two people.

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Speaker 8: You get it from yourself, where you get it from others,

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Speaker 8: And for Jeremy Stevens, the blueprint is laid out on

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Speaker 8: how to beat Jose Aldo. You have to get in

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Speaker 8: boxing range. You have to pressure him, you have to

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Speaker 8: take away those leg kicks, and if you're able to

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Speaker 8: do that and out box them, you can win this fight.

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Speaker 3: Now, Josialdo can box as well.

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Speaker 8: Where Josie Aldo I think has failed, especially in that

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Speaker 8: fight against Max.

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Speaker 3: Holloway, was with the lack of forwork.

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Speaker 8: You know, because he is faster, because he does have

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Speaker 8: great head movement, he tends to not move his feet.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes he gets a little lazy.

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Speaker 8: If he hasn't corrected those mistakes, Jeremy Stevens will win

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Speaker 8: this fight. You know, if Josialdo comes with all of

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Speaker 8: his skills and is moving his feet, and if it's

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Speaker 8: the Josie Aldo that fought Frankie Edgar in the rematch,

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Speaker 8: then Josialdo will win that fight. That was the completely

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Speaker 8: different Josialda, who defensively was just on fire. We haven't

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Speaker 8: seen that same kind of defense out of Jose Aldo.

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Speaker 8: So I'm a little bit worried this isn't for a

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Speaker 8: title fight, and I don't know if Jose Aldo is

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Speaker 8: that same guy.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with Jeremy Stevens here. I need the points.

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Speaker 8: I also believe in his power, and also Jeremy Stevens

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01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 8: he realizes this is his best shot at getting a

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01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:05,440
Speaker 8: title shot with the win here on Saturday Night.

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Speaker 6: Most definitely is Jeremy Stevens probably a slight underdog against

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01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 6: Jose out of this weekend all right main event?

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Speaker 7: How good is this?

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01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 6: The rematch between lightweight contenders Eddie Alvarez and Dustin Poorier

1352
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 6: Monday of fight Week. Pourier is the favorite minus one fifty,

1353
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 6: Eddie Alvarez the slight dog at plus one twenty first meeting,

1354
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 6: as most of you know, ended with a no contest.

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01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 6: Gonna get some finality here, I would think in this

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01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:32,919
Speaker 6: series here between Eddie Alvarez and Dustin Pourier, Tommy, who

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01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 6: do you like in the Calgary main event, and how

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Speaker 6: do they get it done.

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Speaker 10: I think Poier definitely has the crisper boxing. Alvarez tends

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01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 10: to wing his punches in there. They're both tough guys.

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01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 10: I think Albarez might have the better chune, but I

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01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 10: think Poyer can stay outside, soft from up the body

1363
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 10: shots and get his combos working. He's still evolving. I

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01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 10: think he learns from the last bite and Poyer gets

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01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 10: it done. Round five decisions.

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Speaker 6: God, Tommy's just all over it too. You're a producer's dream,

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01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 6: Tommy feelin all right? Ken Flow Pourier in nine fights

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01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 6: since moving up to lightweight, hard to argue with the results,

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01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 6: seven and one with that no contest as well against

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Speaker 6: Eddie Alvarez. Remarkable career for the underground King Alvarez former

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Speaker 6: UFC lightweight champion. He's won everything there is to win,

1372
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Speaker 6: and that includes twenty eighteen Fight of the Year against

1373
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 6: Justin Gaichee last December, fight he won by knockout to

1374
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 6: set up this rematch, which he seemed to be reluctant

1375
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 6: to take at times. It shall be done Saturday Night, Flow,

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01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 6: how do you see a plan out?

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Speaker 8: Two major improvements in the game of Dustin Poier one.

1378
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 8: His boxing too, his confidence, his mental game. This is

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01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 8: a different Dustin Poorrie. This is a Porier who truly

1380
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 8: believes in himself now as a professional mixed martial artist.

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01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 8: We saw refinements in his game in his boxing against

1382
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 8: against Justin Gaigie. He was throwing straight punches, he was

1383
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 8: moving his head, he was defensively responsible, keeping his guard

1384
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 8: up throughout that fight, which was a very dangerous one.

1385
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 8: And again, one fifty five is his weight class. He

1386
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 8: has proven that time and time again. I think Eddie

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01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:09,439
Speaker 8: Alvarez has had a lot of fights. He is as

1388
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 8: tough as they come. But I don't know if he's

1389
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 8: gonna be able to withstand yet another war here against

1390
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 8: Dustin Poorier. I think Pourier gets it done. It probably

1391
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 8: gets to finish in and around the third round.

1392
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 7: Round three, you going TKO or sub for DP.

1393
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 8: I'm gonna go with TKO TKO Dustin Poorier.

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01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 6: Round three for ken flow And again, if you guys

1395
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 6: see the prices can flow. If Jeremy Stevens ends up

1396
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 6: the favorite, maybe you go the other way with Jose Aldo.

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Speaker 7: So keep that in mind.

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01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:40,959
Speaker 6: Tommy Feeland, last thing, So I got one guest picker

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Speaker 6: coming up in a couple of weeks. He was not

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Speaker 6: a fan of Kenny Florian. Then he wants to come

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01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 6: on the show and like, represent my squad. You know,

1402
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 6: we bring on all these guys who are huge Ken

1403
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:51,479
Speaker 6: Flow fans. He's like, how about bringing someone on who's

1404
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 6: gonna challenge Ken Flow? Were you a big Kenny Florian

1405
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 6: fan in his heyday? In his prime?

1406
01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 10: Oh, back in WC, early UFC career up until he retired.

1407
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 10: He finished fights and did whatever it took to win.

1408
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 10: I'm a huge Florian fan.

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01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 8: You put him on the spot. That's why you put

1410
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 8: him on the spot. That's why he had to say yes,

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01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 8: the only reason, Tommy. I appreciate it, man, Hey Tommy,

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Speaker 8: good job today.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 6: I appreciate you hopping on and we'll have you back

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01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 6: at some point down the line.

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01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 10: Hey, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 6: Guys, good job feeling with us on the Anak and

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Speaker 6: Florian podcast.

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01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 7: All right, that is going to do it for today.

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Speaker 6: Thank you to our guests, Ray Longo, Pahoopa, Marcos Stamata.

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Speaker 6: Thanks also to our production crew today, John Hill, Alyssa Green,

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Speaker 6: Jonathan Sea, all carrying a heavy load during Fox's coverage

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Speaker 6: of the World Cup.

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01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 7: And to that end, all hands on deck.

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01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 6: Seven days from now, everybody's coming back Ben with Sorik

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01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 6: vacations over. Jenko, get back in the studio. Next week

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Speaker 6: we will all be live in our Los Angeles studio.

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Speaker 6: I bought a tube of vegemite on Amazon this morning.

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01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, so it is.

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01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 7: It is on its way to Venice. No, I'm sending

1431
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 7: it here, Kenny.

1432
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 6: But if it doesn't arrive, you might have to get

1433
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 6: a tube of vegemite, all right, And then I guess

1434
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 6: we just need a slice of bread and then it

1435
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 6: will be up to you next week live and in

1436
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 6: color to determine how much vegemite I will consume.

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01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 7: But just need bread. And yeah, I don't even know

1438
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 7: what to do.

1439
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 6: I'm gonna hold my nose and uh, I'm gonna get

1440
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 6: a chaser of some kind. But we're excited to pay

1441
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 6: off the bet next week. Thank y'all for listening for

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Speaker 6: Kenny Florian. I'm John Anick. We will talk to you

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01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 6: in less than seven days live from Los Angeles. Until then,

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Speaker 6: Calgary Awaits Enjoy the fights on Foxy Later.

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