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Speaker 1: with me. Welcome back listeners. You know this time of

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Speaker 1: car books like we always do. And today we're going

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Speaker 1: sixty to today. And we're we have with us today

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Speaker 1: one of the co authors, Tom Glatch, and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: what this segment is all about. Tom. Welcome to the

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much. As an honor.

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Speaker 1: You know, we always start out this way. Car guys

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Speaker 1: You know that first car, What was that first car? Tom?

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Speaker 3: It was a nineteen seventy Plymouth Duster three forty. You

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Speaker 1: It just it's always been. Has it always been Dodge

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Speaker 1: So how did you come to write the book? You know,

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Speaker 3: Well? This this was my fifth book for Motor Books.

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Speaker 1: You know, I've gone through the book and I love

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Speaker 3: The first ten chapters was all Mike. Mike's writing and

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Speaker 1: You know, you have to give Chrysler credit, right because

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Speaker 1: Right, it's you know the old muscle cars. A friend

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Speaker 3: And my challenge was to take what Mike had done

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Speaker 3: And since I've known Mike for years and I really

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Speaker 1: to come back, tom Let me pull over to take

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Speaker 1: And when we get back, I'm on a Enny and

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Speaker 1: the Car Doctor. I'm here with Tom Glatchw're talking about

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Speaker 1: We're talking to Tom Glatch. Tom is the co author

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Speaker 1: of the Complete Book of Dodge and Plymouth Muscle Cars.

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Speaker 3: Faster than corvettes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, if you could have any one of

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Speaker 3: I really got as a kid eight years old. I'm going, man,

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Speaker 1: Since it's it's it's and you know what, it's a

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Speaker 1: good disease to have, Tom Really.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 3: Fanatics. That's why I love doing this book. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know what one thing I will say about mopars

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Speaker 1: can look at a Dodge Plymouth muscle car. What always

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Speaker 1: fascinated with them was you would pop the hood. The

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Speaker 1: exterior paint. That's right, And that told me what the

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Speaker 1: always saw. So the name of the book is the

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Speaker 1: Complete Dodge and Plymouth muscle Cars, every model from nineteen

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Speaker 1: sixty to today. It's written by Mike Muller and with

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Speaker 1: our guest today, Tom Glatch. Tom. Where can the listeners

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Speaker 1: get this book if they want to do so? Father's

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Speaker 1: days around the corner, and I'm sure everybody wants to

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Speaker 1: relive the old days.

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Speaker 3: Where can they find it anywhere? Barnes and Noble, Amazon,

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Speaker 3: independent bookstores, you name, it gets out there. Okay, it'll

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Speaker 3: be out there. It'll be out there. June six, June

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Speaker 3: eighteenth is the publishing date.

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Speaker 1: Gotcha? If not. They can get out the Quarto q

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Speaker 1: U A r t O Quarto dot com, give pre

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Speaker 1: order it, find it. They're pre ordered, so Tom an

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Speaker 1: absolute pleasure. We'll have to get together again and go

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Speaker 1: bench right me sometime. I enjoyed the conversation.

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Speaker 3: Sir, Thank you, thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: You're very welcome. I'm ronin Ny and the car Doctor.

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