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Speaker 1: you are to say if you're somebody of open mind. Right,

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Speaker 1: And there's the indoctrination that is. I think it used

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Speaker 1: public school is state run, But now in a private

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Speaker 1: school is in so many places every bit is left wing.

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Speaker 1: In some ways, it's probably even more left wing. Depends

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Speaker 1: on where you know A private school in Berkeley are

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Speaker 1: here in Brooklyn and New York City, it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: every bit as left wing as anything you get from

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Speaker 1: the public school system. But maybe that maybe there's no

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Speaker 1: saving people from their misconceptions of what is reality. Maybe

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Speaker 1: there's no way to stave off the leftist surge. But

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Speaker 1: I am hopeful. I am hopeful that there will be

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Speaker 1: many conservatives who are forged through life experience, that there

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Speaker 1: are twenty five year olds right now who think that,

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Speaker 1: you know, Jimmy Kimmel is really funny and they love

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Speaker 1: watching the Daily Show, and wow, Hillary Clinton would have

447
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: been such a great, such a great president. And in

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Speaker 1: about five or ten years though, it should be like, uh,

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Speaker 1: lower taxes needs to happen. And I listened to the

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show, and I'm actually hoping that maybe in

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Speaker 1: like the next you know, six to twelve months, well

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Speaker 1: they will say, you know what, I've decided that this

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Speaker 1: whole free college, everything free, just pay really high taxes

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Speaker 1: thing is is not gonna work out. The government is

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Speaker 1: not going to be able to deliver on its promises

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Speaker 1: when it comes to all of this, and and that

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Speaker 1: will be this this is what I'm I'm holding out

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Speaker 1: hope for that there's a new generation of conservatives who

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Speaker 1: are are up and kind. I know that already exist,

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to be even bigger. And to the

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Speaker 1: question about right now or one of the problems right

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Speaker 1: now is that within millennials there's a bulge of liberalism. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and I think that will shift as the millennials get

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Speaker 1: a little older. I'm a gray beard millennial. I'm an

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Speaker 1: older I'm an older and distinguished millennial. I might be

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Speaker 1: aging out of I don't know if that works that way.

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Speaker 1: Can you can you stop being a millennial? Do you

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden lose your millennial status? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: These are not important questions, though. Let me run into

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Speaker 1: a break and let's get us I'll get us back

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Speaker 1: on track here with some news of the day, and

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Speaker 1: the second hour will dive deeper into the psychology of

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Speaker 1: this jeehottest attack. Why? How? Why? What an individual radicalized

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Speaker 1: in this way? And we've because we've spent a lot

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Speaker 1: on and at this hour on the diversity visa lottery

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Speaker 1: and the immigration impact that this may have. And the

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Speaker 1: third hour I've got Martin Luther. Uh. The five anniversary

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Speaker 1: of the these is getting nailed to the wall of

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Speaker 1: the cathedral at Wittenberg. We'll talk about that and some

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Speaker 1: some of my thoughts on the growing controversy of sexual

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Speaker 1: harassment in media Hollywood. And we get a lot of

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Speaker 1: them at least seeking to strike our nation, and it

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Speaker 1: will require the unflinching devotion to our law enforcement, homeland security,

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Speaker 1: and intelligence professionals to keep America's safe. We have to

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Speaker 1: get much tougher, we have to get much smarter, and

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Speaker 1: we have to get much less politically correct. We will

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Speaker 1: never waver in the defense of our beloved country ever.

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Speaker 1: Strong words from President Trump, Strong words from the commander

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Speaker 1: in chief. In the aftermath of that terrorist attack yesterday,

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Speaker 1: I went downtown to Lower Manhattan this morning. I was

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Speaker 1: providing some on the scene analysis for Fox News, and

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Speaker 1: I could see the home deep of the wrecked home

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Speaker 1: deepot vehicle that was used as the weapon of mass

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Speaker 1: mass murder here the mass casualty terror attack. Just off

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Speaker 1: in the distance. There was a a group of friends

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Speaker 1: officers doing forensic analysis and pulling piece of evidence there,

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Speaker 1: all wearing white so they were visible from afar, and

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Speaker 1: it just was. It was an interesting scene that this morning,

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Speaker 1: I will say it was. It was heartening. It was

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Speaker 1: encouraging that on the one hand, you have this whole

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Speaker 1: area that's blocked off, and you have this enormous press

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Speaker 1: gathering on the street. You know, these these bullpen set

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Speaker 1: up just full of reporters and journalists and everything else.

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Speaker 1: But if you went one block away from the roped

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Speaker 1: off area, the city was as the city is, people

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Speaker 1: going about their business, going to work, picking up their

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Speaker 1: children from school or dropping them off at school. Rather,

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Speaker 1: I mean everything that you would expect to be going on.

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Speaker 1: And as I have said here, uh, we returned to

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Speaker 1: normalcy in our lives that we do not allow for

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Speaker 1: the normalization of Jihada's terror. And that's an important distinction,

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Speaker 1: that's an important balancing act. I got a lot of

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Speaker 1: calls coming in. I wanted to get your voices in

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Speaker 1: here because I know yesterday I went off on quite

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Speaker 1: a long Buck rant over the course of the show

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Speaker 1: because of the breaking news. So let's get Brian in

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Speaker 1: North Carolina w p T I into the Freedom Hunt. Sir,

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Speaker 1: good to have you on, Hey, Buck, appreciate you has

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Speaker 1: me man, I've been listening to you for a while.

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Speaker 1: First time I've ever called in thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Yep. Before I start off on

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Speaker 1: my my talking point here, I just want to say

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Speaker 1: my heart my prayer as well, and all the people

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Speaker 1: and families up in New York and what happened yesterday.

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Speaker 1: So with that, I was listening to the last call

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Speaker 1: that you ad Buck, and you know, he sounded like

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Speaker 1: you was a little bit older than me. I'm forty one. Um.

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Speaker 1: I'll try to sum this up as briefly as possible,

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Speaker 1: but it seemed to me he was kind of talking

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Speaker 1: about the demographics between the young people eventually going to

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Speaker 1: be able to outligh in the voting boots, you know,

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Speaker 1: older folks and conservatives and things of that nature. Well,

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Speaker 1: it was kind of epiphany riding home listening to this guy,

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Speaker 1: because you know, I was telling the ladies who screen

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Speaker 1: the call. You know, I've got four boys. The ages

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Speaker 1: are fourteen, seventeen, just ter in eighteen and nineteen years old.

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Speaker 1: So long story short. You know, back towards the end

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Speaker 1: of last year, my seventeen year old at the time

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Speaker 1: was sitting in the truck with me before basketball practice

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Speaker 1: and he and I were talking about the election coming

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Speaker 1: up with Hillery Clinton and Donald Trump. So through about

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Speaker 1: a ten minute you know, conversation, asked him what his

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Speaker 1: opinion was, and you know, half the things that came

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Speaker 1: out of his mouth were you know, lies, and you know,

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Speaker 1: propaganda that are spent out to him at school and

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Speaker 1: friends and fake fake news, if you will, Brian, fake news, yeah,

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Speaker 1: fake news exactly. So you know, after about ten or

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Speaker 1: fifteen minutes of talking to this kid and explaining to

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Speaker 1: him what the truth was, not just my truth or

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Speaker 1: my reality, but you know the truth about just things

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Speaker 1: that are going on in the world, you know, with

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Speaker 1: terrorism and economics and all this other stuff. You know,

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Speaker 1: now six months later, my son is eighteen year old.

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Speaker 1: He absolutely loves Donald Trump. So there is hope, Brian,

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Speaker 1: you're telling us there's hope. No. The point is, but

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Speaker 1: we need to take responsibility for our youth. You know.

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Speaker 1: It's just like anything else in our country. You know,

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Speaker 1: everybody wants to point the finger about what's wrong. Well,

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Speaker 1: sometimes you gotta take action and do what's right. That's

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Speaker 1: my point, and I guess that's my point when me

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Speaker 1: having four kids, you know, I'm not gonna let the

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Speaker 1: school system raise my kids and let them raise up

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Speaker 1: you know, four liberal young men you know during my house,

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Speaker 1: and I take responsibility for him. So why would I

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Speaker 1: take responsibility for you know, whatever thoughts or actions they

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Speaker 1: do outside of the age of eighteen years old, you

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Speaker 1: know my influence on them. In my opinions, being the

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Speaker 1: father should be the greatest influence in the life outside

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Speaker 1: of the mom. Absolutely absolutely agree, Brian, A great call.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, go ahead, I said so. I guess that's

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Speaker 1: my thoughts to your last caller, is that, you know,

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Speaker 1: I guess that's what we kind of all get in

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Speaker 1: the Uh. I guess the whole action of always wants

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Speaker 1: to point to finger at liberals or concertist or whatever.

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Speaker 1: But I mean reality, the reality of it is if

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Speaker 1: we want something to change, we need to change that ourselves.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely Brian Shield time man, thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: the call. I do appreciate it, and thank you for

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Speaker 1: listening and supporting the show. Uh yeah, I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm a big Proponent's one of the reasons why I

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Speaker 1: like doing history deep dives and also just trying to

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Speaker 1: bring as as much of an information rich, fact dense

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Speaker 1: show to all of you as I can because this

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Speaker 1: is my life's work. I mean, I I go to

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Speaker 1: sleep at night reading books and taking notes about what

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Speaker 1: I can talk to you about on this show. I

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00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: wake up all day reading the news, and then all

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Speaker 1: so reading books and engaging in you know, engaging scholars

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Speaker 1: and reading their research on the topics that mean a lot.

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Speaker 1: He's back with you now, because when it comes to

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Speaker 1: the fight for truth, the fuck never stops. Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 1: Of course, when there's an incident like this, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: have people who, uh, they focus on on the problem

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Speaker 1: and no, no, not not terrorism. They want to focus

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Speaker 1: on on Donald Trump. Please. The president's tweets, I think

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Speaker 1: we're not helpful. Um, I don't think they were factual.

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Speaker 1: I think they tended to point fingers and politicize the situation. Uh.

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Speaker 1: He was referring back to a immigration policy that dealt

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Speaker 1: with a lottery and blaming people who passed that. Uh,

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Speaker 1: that immigration policy, his tweak wasn't even accurate as far

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Speaker 1: as I'm concerned. Well, that's not accurate. Is is a

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Speaker 1: thing that is true or not? It's not as far

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Speaker 1: as I'm concerned. Look, I live here in New York,

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Speaker 1: which means that Governor Cuomo is the governor of the

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Speaker 1: state that I live in and he is a very

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Speaker 1: unimpressive individual as far as I'm concerned. But here we

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Speaker 1: have him say he's saying that Trump's tweets are are

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Speaker 1: a problem. You know, I was down. I mentioned that

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Speaker 1: I was down at the site of the terror attack

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Speaker 1: this morning with with a whole bunch of press covering

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Speaker 1: covering the incident. And I decided that I would be

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Speaker 1: willing to and Oaks, I'm a guy who's especially on

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Speaker 1: this subject matter. I'll talk to anybody who's gonna let

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Speaker 1: me talk, who wants to learn something. And I walked

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Speaker 1: past some BBC reporters. They're like, hello, I'm actually they were.

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Speaker 1: They had American accents, so I don't know if they

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Speaker 1: were maybe that's BBC America, I don't know. I think

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Speaker 1: it was BBC, BBC whatever. And they said, would you

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Speaker 1: be willing to talk to us? And I said, okay,

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Speaker 1: I just on all this Fox and I figured, okay, fine,

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Speaker 1: sure I'll analyze what I can for you of this

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Speaker 1: terrorist incident. And sure enough, here we go. Look they

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Speaker 1: asked the woman that was the reporter asked him pretty

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Speaker 1: straightforward questions, and then then we got to what the

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Speaker 1: whole interview is really about, which is so Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: tweeted some stuff. Would you agree that it's really unhelpful

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Speaker 1: and terrible that he tweeted this stuff? And I kind

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Speaker 1: of just wanted to say, you know, we have eight

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Speaker 1: people killed just down the street from where we are. Yesterday,

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Speaker 1: I got a terrorist that is completely unrepentant saying he

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Speaker 1: wants an ICES flag in his hospital room. And we're

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Speaker 1: hoping to stop the next version of this sip off

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Speaker 1: character from being able to engage him as more. And

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Speaker 1: you're really are really gonna ask you about Trump's tweets,

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Speaker 1: and this is how it's gonna be. You're gonna ask

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Speaker 1: me about Trump streets. That's what I instead. I said, well,

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Speaker 1: there'll be an evaluation of all kind of terrors and policy.

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Speaker 1: I just I evaded because I didn't I didn't really

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Speaker 1: feel like getting into a I can force with this

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Speaker 1: BBC reporter and I knew that the trap. She had

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Speaker 1: seen me talking to Fox. I knew the trap was coming,

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Speaker 1: and I just figured I'll I'll evade instead of turning

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Speaker 1: around and opening, you know, making sure that school was

644
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Speaker 1: in session. But it's just I think I said yesterday,

645
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 1: they'll they'll find a way to make Trump the problem.

646
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: Sure enough, Trump's tweets though, that's the problem. That is

647
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: what we need to all be on guard against. Here,

648
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Speaker 1: Bob in Michigan, you've been holding for a long time.

649
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 1: I didn't want to get you in. Thank you for calling.

650
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Speaker 1: How you doing. I'm good, Thanks, Thanks for your call.

651
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Speaker 1: What's up? Um, Well, we've got a couple of things

652
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Speaker 1: to say. But first, I think the liberals are just

653
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Speaker 1: mad about the tweets because their Obama phones can't tweet. Um.

654
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Speaker 1: But I know that you're a huge uh action movie fan,

655
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Speaker 1: yes and mice and believe that terminate not terminated Predator

656
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Speaker 1: is one of the best yes, sir. I have to

657
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: I have to tell you that I taught my two

658
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 1: year old to say, get to the chop off. Wow. Okay,

659
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: that's one of the first phrases that they learned. You

660
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: are devoted, all right, fair enough to respect that. Well.

661
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: My point is, um, that two year old son of mine, Uh,

662
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a white guy and uh we adopted a

663
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Speaker 1: black son. And so diversity does come into play for

664
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Speaker 1: me and my family. Um. But with everybody worried about,

665
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Speaker 1: you know, the diversity issue, UM, I think they need

666
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Speaker 1: to work on the diversity here at home before they

667
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: worry about bringing other people here. I mean, the Republicans

668
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: and Democrats can't even get to get get along, how

669
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Speaker 1: can they talk about other forms of diversity. I mean,

670
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:46,439
Speaker 1: you know, you've got Black Lives Matter and and white

671
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: supremacist groups. And I mean, if we can't get along

672
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: as people in our own country, how are we going

673
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: to be able to justify bringing people of other religions,

674
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: other mindsets here. Cohesion here at home is still very

675
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: much a work in progress, and and we are a

676
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,760
Speaker 1: very divided country now, Bob. I just want to say, uh,

677
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: I don't think that people who adopt get nearly enough

678
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: enough praise and credit in our culture for just doing

679
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: a wonderful thing and making somebody your child, making you

680
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: know that that that you adopted, that young young boy,

681
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: that's just you, guys should get you being adoptive parents

682
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: should get a lot more props, if you will, in

683
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 1: the media and in our culture than than you do,

684
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: because it's a it's a wonderful choice. And instead of

685
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Speaker 1: the dirty looks that we get because we have a

686
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Speaker 1: black child, well that I mean, anyone who's giving you

687
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 1: any dirty looks is a is an imbecile. But anyway, Um,

688
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Speaker 1: God bless you and God bless yours. Bob, thank you

689
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 1: very much for for calling and I appreciate it. Um.

690
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: You know, I want to go into the psychology of

691
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Speaker 1: the terrorist here as much as I can. This is

692
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Speaker 1: going to be psychological diagnosis from a far but really

693
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: the the ideology of jihad and how is it that

694
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Speaker 1: somebody could want to support the failing, catastrophically defeated now

695
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: Islamic State. Based on the investigation overnight, it appears that

696
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Speaker 1: Mr St Pop had been planning this for a number

697
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Speaker 1: of weeks. He did this in the name of isis

698
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: Um and along with the other items recovered of the

699
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Speaker 1: scene was some notes that further indicate that he appears

700
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Speaker 1: to have followed almost exactly to a t, the instructions

701
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: that ISIS has put out and its social media channels

702
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 1: before with instructions to their followers on how to carry

703
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 1: out such an attack. The notes were handwritten in Arabic um.

704
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 1: They had symbols uh and words, but the gist of

705
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,280
Speaker 1: the note was that the Islamic state would endure forever.

706
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Speaker 1: The Islamic State, which is under tremendous pressure in the

707
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Speaker 1: Rock and Syria and is really in the process of elimination.

708
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 1: There is still very much an ideology that is dangerous

709
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Speaker 1: and virulent. I just would note those of you who

710
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: listened to this show, we'll recall it. Last night. I

711
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: came on. I came on here at one point and

712
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,240
Speaker 1: said that I had a law enforcement source who said

713
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Speaker 1: that there was ISIS, and ISIS and al Qaeda was

714
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Speaker 1: what they're saying at the time paraphernalia that had already

715
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Speaker 1: been found. And sure enough, my source was accurate on that.

716
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Speaker 1: So I would have broken that news on on TV,

717
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 1: but I was here on radio. I was happy to

718
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Speaker 1: break it for all of you. So I think it's

719
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Speaker 1: just worth noting that that was well, it was certainly

720
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Speaker 1: plausible at the time, but also my initial source on

721
00:44:56,360 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: that term turned out to be correct. And in these

722
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: cases you have so many people who are rushing out

723
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: with rumors and with nonsense. I have to say I'm

724
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: somewhat surprised sometimes that there aren't more folks out there

725
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Speaker 1: say hey, Bucky, you used to work for the n

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Speaker 1: y I p D. I have a feeling you may

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00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: have better sources in the NYPD than just random folks

728
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Speaker 1: who want to go on television or want to go

729
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 1: on on radio. But nonetheless, that was correct what I

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Speaker 1: told you last night, and I was glad that I

731
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Speaker 1: was able to bring you the information early on. Also,

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Speaker 1: everything else that I was discussing with you here on

733
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: on the show and and have been talking about for

734
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Speaker 1: the last twenty four hours or so pretty much NonStop,

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00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: has turned out to be all the analysis. If you want,

736
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: you can go back and listen to the show and look,

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00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: there's more important things that just Hey, everything I said

738
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: was correct, but that is I think a fair reading everything.

739
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: But I think over as a fair would be a

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Speaker 1: fair reading of what's going on last ours And so

741
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 1: I do ask all of you to keep that in

742
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: mind the next time there's an incident of this nature

743
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: and you want facts and analysis, remember who said what

744
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: and who was right, because the facts do matter in

745
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 1: these cases, and there's a lot of shoddy and politicized

746
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: analysis out there. There are a lot of quote counter

747
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 1: terrorism experts who are just straight up hacks, never worked,

748
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 1: never worked a counter terrorism case in their lives, and

749
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: have no idea what they are talking about, and just

750
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 1: muddy the waters and make it more difficult in these

751
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: initial hours afterwards to find out what's really going on.

752
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: But back to the police chiefs. The police chief statement,

753
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry the counter Terrorism commissioner's statement there, John Miller,

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Speaker 1: when he said that this was done in the name

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Speaker 1: of ISIS. I think it's it's worth drilling down into

756
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Speaker 1: this a bit because when when you look at what

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00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: we know about the Islamic state and how much more

758
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: information has come out, mean we we here's the assumption

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Speaker 1: that Scipov the terrorist who's now in custody and has

760
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Speaker 1: been charged with providing material support to a terrorist group

761
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Speaker 1: and violence and destruction of motor vehicles. So he he

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Speaker 1: has been charged and is certainly facing life in prison.

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Speaker 1: But Cipov may have self looks like he's self radicalized.

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Speaker 1: It looks like sci Pauv was an individual who did

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Speaker 1: not have any I know there are reports that they're

766
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Speaker 1: looking for another person, but that's very early stage. As

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00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: I go on here here they're saying they're they're looking

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Speaker 1: for another not a suspect necessarily, but a person of

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Speaker 1: interest that could just be, you know, a family member

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Speaker 1: or a neighbor. They wanted to see if that person

771
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 1: knew anything about any of this. But sipa of self radicalized,

772
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: which means that he was using and they have ISIS

773
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 1: related material that they found on his computer. But that

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Speaker 1: means that he was connected and he was paying attention

775
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Speaker 1: to what was going on in the world of ISIS.

776
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Speaker 1: So he's someone who saw who must have known that

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Speaker 1: not only is isis barbaric, vicious, bloodthirsty enslaving and raping

778
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Speaker 1: women and young and young girls, trying to exterminate the

779
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Speaker 1: Yeasity religious minority in Iraq, saying that they are there Kufar,

780
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Speaker 1: there non nonbelievers, that they're actually devil worshippers. Is the

781
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: slander that is levied against them by ISIS and by

782
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Speaker 1: other Jihadis, other Sunni Arab hardliners. I should note within

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Speaker 1: the musth of world. But ISIS is not only this

784
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 1: terrible terrorist group. It is a failure. It is not working,

785
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: it is falling apart, and there have been plenty of

786
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: stories that and maybe he dismisses it. If somebody had

787
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: asked me, well, how would you explain this right off

788
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Speaker 1: the bat, Maybe it's it's dismissed as propaganda right from

789
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 1: from the West, meaning maybe the stories about ISIS defectors.

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Speaker 1: You say, look, I didn't show up just to be

791
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Speaker 1: a suicide bomber. I thought I was joining the Caliphate

792
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Speaker 1: and would lead a glorious life as a member of

793
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Speaker 1: the Mujahadeen or or whatever. But there are all these

794
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 1: stories of people who have showed up two fight for

795
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 1: the Islamic state and feel like it is a poorly

796
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Speaker 1: run uh And And so I'm just mean, from the

797
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 1: from the perspective of somebody who's inclined to want to

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Speaker 1: take part in jihad, ISIS is a catastrophe and a failure.

799
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,720
Speaker 1: IIS was a catastrophe and a failure. So why would

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00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 1: somebody still I mean, this is a question that I

801
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,280
Speaker 1: haven't heard many asking, and I just think it's an interesting,

802
00:49:55,040 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: interesting ideological investigation or exhibition right now to go through this.

803
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: Why would somebody want to engage in a terror attack? For?

804
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,359
Speaker 1: Why would someone kill for a dying cause if you will?

805
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: How could someone at this stage of the game of

806
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: the global war on terrorism say I wanted I want

807
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 1: to fight alongside ISIS, knowing that it's on is in retreat,

808
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 1: is collapsing, the Caliphate is collapsing into rock and Syria.

809
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: It's not what it's pretended to be. You have foreign

810
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Speaker 1: fighters who have been absolutely vicious even to other Muslims

811
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Speaker 1: who are Iraqi and Syrian, and this has all come

812
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 1: out and there's I mean, who could ever think that

813
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Speaker 1: this cause of the Islamic state specifically would be something

814
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Speaker 1: that you would fight for, never mind that you would

815
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Speaker 1: kill innocent people thousands of miles away. Yeah, I I

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Speaker 1: I go back and forth with Saipav, this Uzbek immigrant, thinking,

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Speaker 1: on the one hand, there must be some part of

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Speaker 1: him that is is deranged. But and I know that

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Speaker 1: he was saying in custody after he had survived the

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Speaker 1: gunshot wound from the valiant NYPD officer who I think

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Speaker 1: a lot of us were thinking, you know, probably could

822
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Speaker 1: have put more than one in him, but you know,

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Speaker 1: thank god he put one in him, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: under the circumstances, it's it's it's pretty amazing that PSI

825
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Speaker 1: Pov was not what it was, not killed that said,

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Speaker 1: and and thank thank God for that NYPD officer standing

827
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Speaker 1: up and doing the right thing and shooting down this

828
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Speaker 1: terrorist when he did. But you just have to stop

829
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Speaker 1: and think, So Sipov is is deranged. But also I

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Speaker 1: don't want to excuse his uh in in any way

831
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Speaker 1: his reprehensible, vile behavior. By suggesting that maybe he's not

832
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: of sound mind right, that he's this would be the

833
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Speaker 1: clil that I'm saying he's not fit. You know, you

834
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Speaker 1: start saying, oh, he's deranged, he's a psychopath, he's a lunatic.

835
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Speaker 1: But at the same time, he's not somebody who would

836
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Speaker 1: say is unfit, you know, mentally or psychologically unfit to

837
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Speaker 1: stand trial. So I just I go back and forth

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Speaker 1: on this with how do you assess the psychology of

839
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Speaker 1: someone who not only would run down eight completely innocent

840
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Speaker 1: people and murder them with a vehicle, just that's it's

841
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: so barbaric, but that would do it specifically in support

842
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 1: of this cause that he has no connection to other

843
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: than ideologically. But I mean no actual time spent in

844
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Speaker 1: the Islamic state. Wasn't indoctrinated in in some isis Madrasa

845
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: or anything like that, right, doesn't have comrades and arms

846
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 1: on the front lines in a Rock or Syria or anything.

847
00:52:56,239 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 1: He from what we know right now, he just read

848
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: and watched and heard things on the internet. Because when

849
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: he when he came to America, we we don't believe

850
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: that he traveled to ISIS or to any ISIS controlled territory.

851
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 1: The Islamic state didn't even exist, so this all must

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00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:22,760
Speaker 1: have happened. It's the overwhelming likelihood is that this occurred

853
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: while he was here in America, which means that this

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Speaker 1: guy who's an Uber driver here in New York City,

855
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Speaker 1: who has a has a girlfriend, has a few kids,

856
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Speaker 1: he made this decision to fight for Isis. How is

857
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 1: it possible? You know, if we're gonna talk about counter

858
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 1: radicalization or de radicalization, I think it's worth exploring the

859
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: psychology here to the degree that we can. How is

860
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 1: it possible that anybody would come to this conclusion? And

861
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,919
Speaker 1: I don't have any hard and fast answers here other

862
00:53:56,040 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 1: than the the The all to jihad within the Islamic

863
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 1: faith for some individuals is profound. The call it to

864
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 1: violence in the name of God and to be a

865
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 1: so called mujahideen, a holy warrior, has has a tremendous pull.

866
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 1: We've finally gotten away from these uh outdated and false

867
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Speaker 1: theories about how terrorism comes from a lack of jobs

868
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: or lack of opportunity, or now most most of the

869
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 1: jihadists that are blowing themselves up or running cars over

870
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 1: people or just engaging in mass murder of of random civilians.

871
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: Are on by global standards, well off, middle class, even

872
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 1: by Western European standards, oftentimes educated, even having higher education

873
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:55,280
Speaker 1: as as part of their profile. So this is about

874
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 1: the power of beliefs. As I often say, a belief

875
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 1: in jihad, I mean it comes from within the Muslim community,

876
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 1: which we already established yesterday and we've known for a

877
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Speaker 1: long time. It comes from within that very large pool

878
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 1: of recruits at one point seven billion people, over nine

879
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 1: percent of whom have no interest or connection to terrorism whatsoever.

880
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 1: But you know, we've gone over the numbers right at

881
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 1: one point seven billion, a very small percentage, still a

882
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:29,399
Speaker 1: very large problem. But as we try to understand, what

883
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 1: could we do or how could we know? The only

884
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 1: precondition for this kind of behavior is a belief in jihad.

885
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 1: That's the only real similarity. There are people from different

886
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 1: this guy's and Uzbek. There have been Moroccans and Saudi's,

887
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 1: and Syrians and Indonesians and Filipinos and go down the list.

888
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 1: Con Converts from literally any ethnic or religious background, they

889
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 1: convert to Islam and they can become a terrorist too.

890
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 1: So believe is the precondition of belief in jihad. It

891
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 1: is psychological, it is a state of mind. And but

892
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 1: the decision, though to fight specifically for Isis is something

893
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 1: that we should not just skip over, because the Islamic

894
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 1: state is in a series of defeats right now, and

895
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 1: perhaps some of its ideological fellow travelers feel the only

896
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Speaker 1: way they can turn this around is to attack, to

897
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 1: take isis call to heart, and to attack in their

898
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: own homelands and reverse the fortunes. I suppose other shows

899
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 1: just talk at you in the Freedom Mud. We have

900
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 1: a mission. We fight for the truth in a team effort,

901
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 1: and buck us back with our next play. I can't

902
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 1: help but notice that there's such a change in tone now,

903
00:56:54,800 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 1: not in moving to the political side of all of this. Uh.

904
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Speaker 1: You had after the Las Vegas shooting, many Democrats, many

905
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:10,720
Speaker 1: people in the media, the the the immediate discussion turned

906
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 1: into how they need we need to do more on guns,

907
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 1: you need to ban guns, and then that was pushed

908
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: back a bit. Then that was I think the first

909
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 1: time that I can really remember where the effort to

910
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 1: take a tragedy and make it something that is a

911
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 1: politically useful moment for Democrats. They certainly jumped at the opportunity.

912
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 1: But they also weren't able to make the case with

913
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 1: Las Vegas because the guy purchased all his weapons legally

914
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 1: and the only thing they were seizing on there for

915
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:56,919
Speaker 1: political reasons was the bump stocks, which I said, Okay,

916
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 1: even the n r A is saying, maybe we regulate

917
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 1: bump stocks. You already have the right relation of suppressors

918
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 1: and and fully automatic weapons are very heavily regulated. But

919
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 1: I suppose maybe bump stocks, although it won't do anything.

920
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 1: But then you get into whether you believe it is

921
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 1: politically wise two uh, make the concession to the other

922
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Speaker 1: side as a means of seeming reasonable. That was true

923
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 1: on Las Vegas. But now that we're dealing with a case,

924
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: a case where all of the all of the assumed,

925
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 1: all of the all of the guests at aspects of

926
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Speaker 1: this terrorist case fit in line with a narrative that

927
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Speaker 1: the Left does not, in any way, shape or form

928
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 1: want to discuss, we are being told no surprise here.

929
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 1: Oh wait, hold, let's hold off on the politicization of this. Look,

930
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 1: the last thing the president or anyone else should do

931
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 1: is politicize this trade. Well, unfortunately, we've all been quite

932
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Speaker 1: conditioned by Democrats over the years to see any mass

933
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Speaker 1: casualty incident like this as as a moment when there

934
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 1: will be a political debate. Now, I'm not just saying

935
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 1: Democrats aren't the only ones who do what others do

936
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Speaker 1: it as well, but especially on the gun issue, especially

937
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Speaker 1: on um, the issue of any mass casualty incident that

938
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Speaker 1: involves firearms, which this one in New York City, this

939
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Speaker 1: vehicle attack. Um, I guess the Halloween Eve mass casualty

940
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Speaker 1: incident here in New York there was there were fake guns,

941
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Speaker 1: but there were no actual guns, So there's not really

942
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 1: a gun control issue. They're not gonna say, Okay, no

943
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 1: more paintball guns, right, That's that's ridiculous. But looking into

944
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 1: what they've said in the past versus what they say now,

945
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 1: you've build a Blasio, for example, tweeting out in June

946
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Speaker 1: of Orlando, and Billy Blasi was the guy that we

947
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 1: just played a moment ago, right, saying let's not politicize this.

948
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 1: But here's what he writes in June or Orlando, San Bernardino, Newtown.

949
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 1: How many more cities have to become synonyms for tragedy

950
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 1: before GOP puts us lives before an R. A. Cash.

951
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 1: I don't know how much more clear we can uh

952
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 1: B about this, but the left hypocrisy because of the

953
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 1: Internet now and because of the the other forms of

954
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 1: media out there that can counter their narrative and don't

955
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:46,919
Speaker 1: allow them to have absolute control over the entirety of

956
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 1: the discussion. When it comes to what politicians have said

957
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 1: now versus what they've said in the past, we can see,

958
01:00:56,600 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 1: we can see for ourselves that there are so many

959
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 1: instances of just rank hypocrisy, and the politicization of tragedy

960
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 1: on the left is a knee jerk response. They always

961
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 1: do this unless they can't come up with a narrative

962
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Speaker 1: that they like. Then they tell us, let's not politicize

963
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 1: it now. In this case, I don't think it is

964
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:24,959
Speaker 1: politicizing to take some of the steps that are now

965
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 1: under discussion. And I'm very honest with all of you

966
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 1: that I'm not certain that there is a clear there's

967
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 1: not a not a clear obvious way to handle these

968
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 1: vehicle attacks. It is very difficult to stop a vehicle

969
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 1: attack if you aren't able to get the would be

970
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 1: terrorist at the point of radicalization and preparation. If you're

971
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:56,920
Speaker 1: waiting for Oh, he's in the car, he's turning the keys,

972
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 1: he's already rented it. You know, he's in the van

973
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 1: of the truck or whatever it. Maybe you're likely going

974
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 1: to be counting casualties instead of counting your blessings for

975
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 1: a close call. That is why these vehicle attacks are

976
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 1: increasing in frequency, because it is easier for the terrorists

977
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 1: to pull them off, and they're realizing that if their

978
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 1: real goal is to create chaos and and engage in

979
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 1: murder on a massive and systematic scale, over count over,

980
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 1: attack after attack after attack. Remember, the Jihadahs believe that

981
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 1: they can change our society and they can weaken us

982
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 1: and slowly bleed us out America or European allies and

983
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 1: the whole Western world, the whole free world right including

984
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 1: our our allied nations all over the world. They believe

985
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 1: that a an approach of countless small scale attacks will

986
01:02:55,920 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 1: be sufficient two to lead us out over time. And

987
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 1: the vehicle strategy, vehicle attacks strategy falls right into that

988
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 1: is absolutely for them the most efficient and effective way

989
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 1: of conducting terror attacks, no training necessary. And what are

990
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 1: what are the ways that this could be stopped? I

991
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 1: don't have anything particularly brilliant in terms of countermeasures. To

992
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 1: share with you, We've been discussing what President Trump has

993
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 1: said about immigration and extreme vetting, and I do believe

994
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 1: that there is there is room, certainly now to take

995
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 1: a take a second look or to revisit the debate

996
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 1: over extreme vetting as a result of where the administration

997
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 1: is on all this right, we are aware of the

998
01:03:53,280 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 1: fact that there is an importation of extremist, gee hottest

999
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 1: ideology that occurs if you do not take into account

1000
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 1: that some of these countries, while full of lots of

1001
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 1: very kind and decent people who mean knowing any harm,

1002
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 1: unfortunately their fellow countrymen in some cases country women, our

1003
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 1: ideological hardliners that view themselves as warriors wage idean holy

1004
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 1: warriors in this really cosmic struggle against US for global domination.

1005
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 1: And I know that these are grandiose terms that we

1006
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 1: don't like to think in that way, and particularly among Democrats,

1007
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 1: but among plenty of Republicans as well, you have this

1008
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 1: idea that terrorism is just is a law enforcement problem only,

1009
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 1: and we should view jihad as no greater strategic threat

1010
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 1: to the United States than you know, white supremacy or

1011
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 1: any other you know, neo Nazis. I mean, whatever the

1012
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 1: extremist start they like to they like to put into

1013
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 1: the discussion, and I just think that what we have

1014
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 1: seen is that time and again there is an unwillingness

1015
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 1: on the left to focus on the problem, speak candidly

1016
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 1: about it, and try to make talking about progressives. Here.

1017
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 1: They do not want to make progress on the issue

1018
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 1: of counter radicalization. They want to ignore it. They'd rather

1019
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 1: try to make it go away. And that's why we here.

1020
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 1: Let's not politicize it now. Oh, let's not politicize it

1021
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 1: this time because the guy didn't use a gun. Let's

1022
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 1: not politicize it this time because it's the rare incident

1023
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 1: of a right wing domestic extremist in this country who uh,

1024
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 1: you know, engages in an active terrorism. It happens. We

1025
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 1: still like, I think that the Las Vegas shooter, by

1026
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:54,479
Speaker 1: the way, I still don't know a lot of things

1027
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 1: there that are unanswered, and I'm wondering when we're gonna

1028
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:01,919
Speaker 1: get a more full accounting of want the investigation into

1029
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 1: that mass shooting in Las Vegas has found out. It

1030
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 1: seems to me that there is a lot, uh, there

1031
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 1: is a lot that has not been that has has

1032
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 1: not been answered with regard to the Las Vegas investigation,

1033
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 1: so we'll continue to look at that as well. But

1034
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 1: just the calls not to politicize this issue. We we

1035
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 1: all understand this for what it is. They don't want

1036
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 1: to this time around, it doesn't get politicized, but the

1037
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 1: next one, if it's a narrative that they are more comfortable,

1038
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 1: if they will certainly make an effort to politicize. We

1039
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:40,120
Speaker 1: will be talking to Eric Mataxis later on the show

1040
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:41,800
Speaker 1: about his book on Martin Luther. I meant to get

1041
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 1: to that last night, and so we will make good

1042
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:47,920
Speaker 1: on that promise tonight, and uh in particularly the third hour,

1043
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 1: will be changing up a whole bunch of topics. Is

1044
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 1: tax reform actually gonna happen? You know, there's so much

1045
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 1: else going on right now, and understandably so that the

1046
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 1: primary legislative effort underway right now, the whole discussion over

1047
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 1: and the various details of the tax plan seems to

1048
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 1: be getting lots lost. And I think that what we're

1049
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 1: gonna have to see where we're gonna have to prepare

1050
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 1: ourselves for those of us who are hoping for the

1051
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:27,920
Speaker 1: administration to get some legislative points up on the board.

1052
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 1: I think we have to be ready for the possibility

1053
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 1: that this is gonna wait, and that this is going

1054
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 1: to be not nearly not nearly as fantastic attacks plan

1055
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Speaker 1: as was initially promised. Look, it's it's not going to be.

1056
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Speaker 1: It has not been released today. It might be released tomorrow.

1057
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Speaker 1: And I understand that perhaps this is all being pushed back,

1058
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 1: being pushed back so that, you know, there's other things

1059
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 1: right now that have moved to the front of the

1060
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Speaker 1: government of the Administration's agenda. But I do think it's

1061
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 1: it's important that we not entirely lose sight of what's

1062
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 1: at stake here with regard to the economy and the

1063
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 1: overall political direction of the Republican Party right now. According

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Speaker 1: to Politico, this is what this is what the hold

1065
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Speaker 1: up maybe quote Not twenty four hours before the bill's

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Speaker 1: big reveal, lawmakers had yet to settle on one of

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Speaker 1: the most sensitive questions of all, how to pay for

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Speaker 1: their proposed five point five trillion dollars in tax cuts,

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Speaker 1: since any major revenue generator is certain to antagonize some

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Speaker 1: powerful lobby or group of lawmakers who could defeat it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, this is what has not been discussed. And

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Speaker 1: I don't mean to be the guy that's reigning on

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Speaker 1: the parade here. I don't mean to be the one who's,

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Speaker 1: you know, not willing to get on board and you know,

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Speaker 1: make America great again and everything else. But there's been

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Speaker 1: so little discussion. And this is a Republican Party thing.

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Speaker 1: This isn't just this isn't just an issue of the

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Speaker 1: Trump administration or President Trump himself. This is a a

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Speaker 1: GOP wide shortcoming. We have been told that there are

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Speaker 1: going to be these great taxes, there's going to be

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Speaker 1: simplified rates, there is going to be a tremendous amount

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Speaker 1: of growth and overall prosperity for the American people that

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Speaker 1: will come from these tax cuts. And yet what about

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Speaker 1: the twenty trillion dollars of debt. What about the fact

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01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 1: that we are running up that debt clock even more

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01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:10,679
Speaker 1: this year to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars.

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Speaker 1: There has been no And and now they're gonna get

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Speaker 1: in the Congress, They're gonna get all caught up on

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Speaker 1: whether this whether the tax cuts pay for themselves. I

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01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 1: hate the way that they talk about this. I don't

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01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 1: like this notion that taxes somehow are this thing that

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Speaker 1: whatever the rate is right now, or whatever the expectations

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01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 1: were for revenue, which is just a nice way of saying,

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01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 1: taking your money, whatever the way, whatever the expectation was

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Speaker 1: for taxation, I don't like revenue. I don't like this.

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Speaker 1: That's your money they're taking. Uh that If there's a

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Speaker 1: change to that, and if the the American people, if

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Speaker 1: the taxpayer gets to keep more of his or her

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Speaker 1: private property, then that is some shift in the force, right,

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01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:07,360
Speaker 1: that is a disturbance, That is a a problem. Um.

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Speaker 1: But apart from the verbiage that's used in the whole

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Speaker 1: tax discussion, you know, apart from the continued I think

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Speaker 1: dishonesty on the part of Democrats and even some Republicans

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Speaker 1: when it comes to what the tax cuts are really

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01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:28,520
Speaker 1: going to be, all about what they will do and

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01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 1: what the future of the tax code will look like.

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01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 1: The problem of the debt has only gotten worse, and

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Speaker 1: we are not having a discussion about what the current

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01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:44,559
Speaker 1: tax proposal. We don't even know what the proposal is.

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01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 1: We do not have a real sense of what they

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01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 1: plan to do about the debt. For example, in in

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01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 1: a Business Insider that they just wrote about some of

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01:11:56,840 --> 01:11:59,240
Speaker 1: the other problems that have come up here, like, for example, quote,

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01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:01,640
Speaker 1: Republicans don't yet know what they'll do about state and

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01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 1: local tax deductions. Repealing this provision is supposed to raise

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Speaker 1: one point three trillion over a decade. It's crucial to

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01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:12,439
Speaker 1: financing the overall package. But members from blue states hated

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01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:14,760
Speaker 1: and it's one of the provisions driving tax increases for

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01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:18,719
Speaker 1: middle and upper middle class households. So there are people

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Speaker 1: who absolutely despise some of the core tenets of this

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01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:29,559
Speaker 1: proposed tax package. And they haven't agreed on this yet,

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01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:31,880
Speaker 1: and and we haven't even talked about the debt. I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you, this is just gonna They're gonna push it

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Speaker 1: into the new year, and we're we're losing time here.

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Speaker 1: There needs to be a sense that the GOP and

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Speaker 1: the Trump administration can get legislation that matters for the

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Speaker 1: American people done. So we have to we have to

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Speaker 1: keep hold them accountable and focus on this as we go.

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll be back with more, including a discussion

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Speaker 1: of Martin Luther Ands that we meant to have yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Stay with me. Oh wait, wait, wait, one more thing

1132
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Speaker 1: before sorry part pardon me for a moment here before

1133
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:10,439
Speaker 1: I go into the next hour, I should note that

1134
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Speaker 1: there was a news event today that caught my attention

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01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 1: that I do not have. Well, this is really a

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01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 1: promise that at some point in the future I will

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01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 1: follow up on this um. But we have more documents

1138
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Speaker 1: Corny's CNN here. More documents have been released from the

1139
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:37,720
Speaker 1: bin Laden raid. And this is I think one of

1140
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:39,919
Speaker 1: these times when I have to I have to assume

1141
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 1: that I will dive deep into this. Here's what CNM

1142
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:46,559
Speaker 1: was reporting on. See I releases more files says it

1143
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 1: came from bin Laden raid, including his journal. Wow. Might

1144
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:55,600
Speaker 1: be able to dive into bin Laden's journal now in

1145
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 1: my free time, which I think is something I am

1146
01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:00,040
Speaker 1: going to have to do, and I will tell you

1147
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 1: what I managed to find there. I should know that

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01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:04,800
Speaker 1: there are still a lot. There's still a lot that

1149
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 1: was not released from the bin Lan raid. One thing

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01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:11,720
Speaker 1: that was interesting to me was that they said that

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01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 1: they couldn't release stuff that obviously national security things, but

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01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:18,599
Speaker 1: also anything from the bin Lan raid that included copyrighted material,

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01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 1: malware or and pornography. So bitten Laden must have had

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01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 1: some uh some stuff on his computer, which I don't

1155
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:36,840
Speaker 1: think people would think about that very often, But there's

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01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:42,639
Speaker 1: there's that. Yesterday was the five hundredth anniversary, five hundred

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01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:48,559
Speaker 1: years since uh, Martin Luther nailed his n theses up

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01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 1: to the Castle church in Wittenberg. We have somebody who

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Speaker 1: can tell us about the significance of this and what

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Speaker 1: it means well, just as a as a story in

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01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 1: history that we should all know, but all so for

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01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:04,000
Speaker 1: the discussions that are going on still to this day

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01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 1: about intellectual freedom and religion and everything else. We've got

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Speaker 1: Eric Metaxas on the line. He is the number one

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Speaker 1: New York Times bestselling author who's just written a book

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Speaker 1: about Martin Luther, called Martin Luther, The Man Who Rediscovered

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Speaker 1: God and Changed the World. Eric, thanks for making the

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Speaker 1: time great to have you. Oh listen, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: And it's uh, it's exciting to talk about something I'm

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Speaker 1: excited about. Buck, What can I tell you? Well, tell

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Speaker 1: us why the anniversary of Martin Luther is something that everybody,

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Speaker 1: not just history buffs, everybody should take a moment and

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Speaker 1: think about. Well. Yeah, I with most of my books,

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Speaker 1: I go into it kind of ignorant and I'm unaware

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Speaker 1: until I begin to do the research. I had a

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Speaker 1: couple of friends I dedicate the book to them. One

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Speaker 1: of them is the president of the King's College here

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Speaker 1: in New York City. He said, Eric, You've got to

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Speaker 1: write a book on Luther for the five hundred the anniversary,

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Speaker 1: which is in a few years. And I just thought,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think I'm interested in Luther. But

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Speaker 1: he began to explain to me to significance of Luther,

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Speaker 1: and as usual, I felt embarrassed. I thought, how did

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Speaker 1: I miss the significance of this man. I mean, first

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Speaker 1: of all, if you're a patriot, if you care about

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01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:16,720
Speaker 1: American self government and freedom, our version of freedom, true freedom,

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01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:20,800
Speaker 1: religious liberty, all the stuff that we care about, that

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01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:23,240
Speaker 1: is the most important thing in the world and for

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Speaker 1: the whole world. It began with Martin Luther five hundred

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Speaker 1: years ago. Now I've done the research, I've told the story,

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Speaker 1: and I see the connection. It really was not clear

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Speaker 1: to me. Um, you know, you wouldn't You wouldn't have

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Speaker 1: George Whitfield in the United States of America if you

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01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:44,719
Speaker 1: didn't have Martin Luther. So it really is the pivot

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Speaker 1: point in the last two thousand years it's the moment

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Speaker 1: where these ideas, which of course you find in the

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Speaker 1: Bible and the Gospels, these ideas are dragged into history

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Speaker 1: in such a way that we've never been the same.

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Speaker 1: What I say is that it's like Luther opened the

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Speaker 1: door and the future walked through the door. We we've

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Speaker 1: simply never been the same since he introduced these ideas.

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Speaker 1: What was the necessary context? I mean, Eric, I know

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01:17:11,479 --> 01:17:14,839
Speaker 1: you meticulously research all your books. What's the necessary context

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01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:17,519
Speaker 1: for those listening to understand to get a sense of

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Speaker 1: just how much of a revolutionary act it was to

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Speaker 1: nail these feces to that door at Wittenberg? Was years ago,

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Speaker 1: five years ago, yesterday? Theoretically, well, to tell you the

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Speaker 1: truth that itself, there are a number of things that

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Speaker 1: I discovered which I love discovering the truth and the

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01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:40,519
Speaker 1: fact when you can find them. And I discovered that

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Speaker 1: the nailing of thes when he did it was not

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Speaker 1: really at all significant, and it was not very brave

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Speaker 1: of him to nail the THESS to the wall. We

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Speaker 1: remember it that retroactively, we look back and we realized

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Speaker 1: that's when it all began. But Luther's incredible bravery in

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01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:03,880
Speaker 1: courage came a couple of years later, but we trace

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01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:08,080
Speaker 1: things back to fifteen seventeen years ago because when he

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Speaker 1: posted this document of the that's what kicked everything off.

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Speaker 1: But to give it, to give us perspective on it.

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Speaker 1: What he was doing. He saw that this thing called indulgences,

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Speaker 1: which I won't go into, but it was it was

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Speaker 1: a practice in the church that had become corrupt, and many,

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01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:28,760
Speaker 1: many people, not just Luther, knew that this was bad.

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01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:31,959
Speaker 1: This needed attention. He decides. He says, I'm a theologian,

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Speaker 1: I'm a doctor of the church. It's my responsibility to

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01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 1: begin discussing this. But he wasn't thinking of himself as

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Speaker 1: a reformer, not even a hint of that was there.

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01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 1: In fifteen seventeen. He only wanted to have an academic

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01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:48,559
Speaker 1: debate on the subject of indulgences with other academics, with

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01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:50,759
Speaker 1: the idea that we're going to go through the proper channels.

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01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:54,160
Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna bring some reform, but through the

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Speaker 1: proper channels. He didn't even dream of breaking away from

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Speaker 1: the Catholic Church. So he posted this document meant for

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Speaker 1: a debate on the local bulletin board, which happens to

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Speaker 1: be the big wooden door of the church. He didn't say,

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Speaker 1: how can I make a big statement? I got it.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna nail this incendiary document to the door of

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Speaker 1: the church. Everybody will see no. I mean, if you

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01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:19,439
Speaker 1: were missing a cat, you would post the document saying

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Speaker 1: can you find smokey on the door of the castle church.

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Speaker 1: So in retrospect we look at it as this big

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01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:28,840
Speaker 1: dramatic thing. It was not. What happened though, was that

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01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:32,559
Speaker 1: that document. Because of the printing press, which didn't exist

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01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:37,120
Speaker 1: long before this, Uh, suddenly people start reproducing the document

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Speaker 1: and they translated into German without his permission. It just

1246
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:44,040
Speaker 1: went viral, as we would say today, and it began

1247
01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:46,880
Speaker 1: an argument that he never wanted to have, and it's

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01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:50,479
Speaker 1: sort of spiraled out of control, so that by the

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Speaker 1: time you get the one and the the ill named

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01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:59,760
Speaker 1: Diet of Worms, you have him finally being confronted by

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01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:02,120
Speaker 1: the powers of that day. And it was in that

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01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:06,840
Speaker 1: moment that everything changed in one where he says, what

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01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 1: I've discovered, you know, this went way beyond indulgences. Four

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01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 1: years later they had they dove into everything else in

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Speaker 1: the four years between. So now he's being questioned, and

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01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 1: he says if in effect he said it humbly but strongly.

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01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:24,480
Speaker 1: He said, I can't back down. What I have discovered

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01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:27,840
Speaker 1: needs to be said. And they effectively said to him,

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Speaker 1: shut up, or we'll burn you at the stake. And

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01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:32,120
Speaker 1: he said, well, you don't. You can burn me at

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Speaker 1: the stake. But I stand before God. I'm more afraid

1262
01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:41,360
Speaker 1: of lying in public and and pretending that there's no problem.

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01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:43,280
Speaker 1: I have to say what I'm saying. So it's an

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Speaker 1: incredibly brave moment. By defying the authorities of the day. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, it was not very different from somebody defying

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Speaker 1: Kim Jong un in North Korea. I mean, if you

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Speaker 1: would say I have a different view of truth any

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01:20:57,240 --> 01:21:00,680
Speaker 1: kind of uh situation from the medieval era and before that,

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Speaker 1: they would just crush you in the way you'd be

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Speaker 1: crushed into dictatorship today. In those days you didn't do that.

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Speaker 1: But he he felt compelled to do it when he

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Speaker 1: did it, and the fact that he got away with it,

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01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:14,200
Speaker 1: and that these ideas sort of got out of the horse,

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01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:16,840
Speaker 1: got out of the barn, there was no going back.

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Speaker 1: Luther introduced us to a world where it is possible

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Speaker 1: to dissent from the powers that be. It gives us

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Speaker 1: our our idea of the individual and conscience and all

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Speaker 1: this kind of stuff. It's very important we know our

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Speaker 1: history and if you if you care about America, you

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Speaker 1: have to understand this is where it came from. Historically,

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Speaker 1: there's no denying it came from what happened five years

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Speaker 1: ago because of this maniac monk who simply could not

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Speaker 1: back down. He didn't feel the other freedom to back down.

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Speaker 1: We're speaking to Eric Metaxas, and he's got a great

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Speaker 1: book that's out right now, just out Martin Luther, The

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Speaker 1: Man Who Rediscovered God and Changed the World. Eric's and

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Speaker 1: New York New York Times number one best selling author.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Eric, the aftermath though, of this fantastic

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Speaker 1: intellectual and theological and ideological debate that was sparked by

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Speaker 1: Martin Luther, things got messy, I think, is one way

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Speaker 1: to put it. What can tell us about that well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, the misunderstanding was it happened from the get go.

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Speaker 1: In other ways, it seems clear to me that he

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Speaker 1: really was a humble monk who did not want trouble.

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Speaker 1: So when he's portrayed that way, that's wrong. He became

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Speaker 1: that later, But he initially is trying very humbly to

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Speaker 1: put forward a few ideas, and he wasn't even prepared

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Speaker 1: to go to battle. He just thought, this is my duty.

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Speaker 1: But as I say, it spirals out of control because

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Speaker 1: suddenly politics gets involved, egos get involved, and what he

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Speaker 1: was hoping would be a logical path forward among Christians

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01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:54,120
Speaker 1: to try to figure out what is true just became

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01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 1: this free for all where he was being attacked. Then

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Speaker 1: he defends himself. In defending himself, he says things maybe

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Speaker 1: he shouldn't say. Um, it is really fascinating how it

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Speaker 1: quickly spirals out of control and becomes an idea that

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01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:13,479
Speaker 1: has leapt way beyond the cultural elites. People in the streets,

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01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:16,320
Speaker 1: people in the villages of Germany, and then way beyond

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Speaker 1: Germany are reading Luther's ideas and saying, wait a second,

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Speaker 1: he's right, we agree with him. Uh, Finally someone is

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Speaker 1: speaking up. Finally, somebody who has the ability to speak

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Speaker 1: up is daring to speak up. And so these ideas

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01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:34,360
Speaker 1: had a life of their own. In other words, it

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Speaker 1: wasn't just Luther, even if he had been killed at

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Speaker 1: some point, the ideas because of the printing press, and

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01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:42,439
Speaker 1: because of Luther's ability to get the ideas out via

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01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:45,400
Speaker 1: the printing press, at some point went so far beyond

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Speaker 1: him that there was no looking back. And so yes,

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Speaker 1: they got very messy, there were wars and so and

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Speaker 1: so forth. But this is this is the birth of freedom.

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Speaker 1: If you really want to know where it comes from,

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01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:57,440
Speaker 1: it came from. And the good news I would say

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01:23:57,600 --> 01:23:59,760
Speaker 1: is that it's a very entertaining story. And Luther is

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01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 1: a usually entertaining figure, actually very funny, and I it's

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Speaker 1: what persuaded me buck to write the book because the

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01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 1: Bona Offer story, as you know, it's a very serious story.

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01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:12,840
Speaker 1: It's a very difficult story. It's not what you'd call

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01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:15,639
Speaker 1: fun and entertaining. The story of Luther in some places

1329
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:19,720
Speaker 1: is absolutely hilarious, and I thought that kind of a

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Speaker 1: book I'm willing to write, and I'm so far people

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Speaker 1: have said it's a fun, easy read, which I promise

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Speaker 1: you I was not expecting people to say, but it's

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01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:33,639
Speaker 1: been said enough that I can repeat it. I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: thrilled as the author. I want people to enjoy history

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01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:40,680
Speaker 1: and not feel like it's a flog. Well, Eric, congratulations

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Speaker 1: on publishing yet another fantastic book. Everyone listening, go check

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Speaker 1: it out Martin Luther, The Man Who Rediscovered God and

1338
01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:50,120
Speaker 1: Change the World. Google it, check it out on Amazon

1339
01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:53,800
Speaker 1: dot Com or and find bookstores everywhere. Eric ma Texas, everybody. Eric,

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Speaker 1: great to have you man, Thanks for thanks for joining us,

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01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:59,160
Speaker 1: my joy. Thank you. Buck Alright, team, I am going

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Speaker 1: to come back in just a few minutes here with

1343
01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:06,400
Speaker 1: some updates on more of these accusations about sexual harassment

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01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:09,599
Speaker 1: that are out there, and also some thoughts on attorney

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01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:15,360
Speaker 1: client privilege and Mueller. The sexual harassment allegations that keep

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01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:20,080
Speaker 1: coming out of the news cycle every day. Um, this

1347
01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:25,080
Speaker 1: is this is a reckoning. This is well beyond just

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01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:33,160
Speaker 1: a a a temporary news cycle enhanced blip. Where you

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Speaker 1: have people who have been harassed and who have been

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Speaker 1: mistreated and who have been in some cases abused and

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01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:46,240
Speaker 1: even assaulted, that they're coming forward now and speaking out

1352
01:25:46,280 --> 01:25:51,800
Speaker 1: against powerful people in Hollywood is indicative and not just

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01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:55,760
Speaker 1: Hollywood in the media in general. This is indicative of

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01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:59,800
Speaker 1: a particular moment right now when I think the whole

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01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:04,360
Speaker 1: country is waking up to the reality and not some

1356
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:06,719
Speaker 1: people don't really care much, but those who are paying

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01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:12,040
Speaker 1: attention are wake up the reality of how much exploitation

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01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:17,800
Speaker 1: and bad behavior there has been in the entertainment industry

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Speaker 1: and in the media more generally, and it's everywhere, and

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Speaker 1: we do need to look at the culture behind all this,

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Speaker 1: and that means the culture that is producing all of

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Speaker 1: this too, right, So there's the Hollywood and media culture specifically,

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01:26:35,640 --> 01:26:38,479
Speaker 1: but then there's also how is this happening in our

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Speaker 1: own country? What kind of deterioration of a sense of honor,

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Speaker 1: integrity and decency has festered to this point that there

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Speaker 1: can be so many powerful rich I mean, these are

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Speaker 1: people who maybe don't think of themselves this way, but

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01:26:56,800 --> 01:27:00,840
Speaker 1: they are so blessed. In fact, it would be very

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Speaker 1: accurate to refer to them as lucky. They are lucky

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Speaker 1: that they are in this position. They are lucky that

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Speaker 1: they have been successful in this industry. And I can

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Speaker 1: tell you from just the from a young person in media,

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Speaker 1: relatively young person in media perspective, is a brutal business.

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Speaker 1: It's terrible, it's not fair. People use every advantage at

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Speaker 1: their disposal and it creates, I think, a tremendous resentment

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Speaker 1: and some individuals when they get into a place too

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Speaker 1: unleash to to slash out at people. They take that

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Speaker 1: opportunity and they take it with sexual harassment, sexual aggression

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Speaker 1: in the workplace, and and all these behaviors that were seeing, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, you've got now even Dustin Hoffman, who has

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Speaker 1: been accused in the Hollywood Reporter of sexually harassed a

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Speaker 1: young woman she was seventeen a long time ago. Six

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Speaker 1: women have accused the filmmaker Brett Ratner as of today

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Speaker 1: of sexual harassment. Just there's more and more and more

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Speaker 1: of this. I can't even keep up with it. It

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Speaker 1: is a true deluge. I mean, there is so much,

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Speaker 1: so much, uh of this, of these allegations that are

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01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:30,040
Speaker 1: coming out right now, and you just have to wonder,

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Speaker 1: how was it even possible, How is it even possible

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Speaker 1: that some of these cases did not come to light

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Speaker 1: until now. I mean, there's really a need for a

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Speaker 1: somewhat radical cultural rethink, I believe, in light of what

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Speaker 1: we are finding out here, because these are privileged and

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Speaker 1: certainly elitist, if not elite, individuals who were just acting

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Speaker 1: like assuming now, look, assuming the allegations are true, and

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Speaker 1: we already had our first high profile fake allegation of

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Speaker 1: sexual assault or sexual assault was actually the allegation with

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Speaker 1: George H. W. Bush, nine year old man who has

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Speaker 1: to mention a wheelchair, making an off color joke and

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Speaker 1: touching a woman's waist for a photo is not sexual assault,

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Speaker 1: and anyone thinks it is an idiot, there will be others.

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Speaker 1: And this is why I try to stick to the

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01:29:27,040 --> 01:29:31,400
Speaker 1: the language of allegation and reported and not just say well,

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01:29:31,439 --> 01:29:33,799
Speaker 1: this guy did this and that guy did that, because

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01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:38,759
Speaker 1: right now there are a lot of cases breaking where

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01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:42,720
Speaker 1: it seems very likely that the individual who is accused

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Speaker 1: is in facuilty of based on the number of accusers

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Speaker 1: and the kind of conduct alleged, and also their initial statements,

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Speaker 1: right I'm gonna go fight the n r A or

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Speaker 1: I'm a I'm going to live my life as a

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Speaker 1: gay man. These kinds of uh diversions, these kinds of

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Speaker 1: efforts to turn the public's eyes away from the reality

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Speaker 1: of what has been happening here, to me, indicates that

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Speaker 1: there is guilt, and there's a lot of guilt with

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Speaker 1: some of these people that have been accused. Now, where

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Speaker 1: I think this goes is what is concerning, because right now,

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Speaker 1: with a lot of these really I mean, you have

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Speaker 1: these really high profile, egregious cases. But there is a

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Speaker 1: political mobilization that has taken place here. There is a

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Speaker 1: there is a tremendous amount of power that has shifted

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Speaker 1: right now, and the formerly harassed and oppressed are able

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Speaker 1: to flip the script and in many cases very justifiably

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01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:53,440
Speaker 1: and rightfully going after those who have have used them

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Speaker 1: in the past. But I do caution here that it

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Speaker 1: is going to be used. I don't know, I don't

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Speaker 1: know when, but it is going to be used against

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Speaker 1: people for reasons of politics, meaning that once there is

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Speaker 1: a clear opening, once it is obvious that there is

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Speaker 1: somebody who is a target of the left. This think

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Speaker 1: of it like the the Anita Anita Hill situation with

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Speaker 1: Clarence Thomas, where a what to me seemed a flimsy

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Speaker 1: case was used to almost bring down a very good

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Speaker 1: man and prevent him from being on the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 1: Just that the Clarence Thomas effect is going to happen,

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Speaker 1: or the Clarence Thomas anti Clarence Thomas playbook is going

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01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:46,479
Speaker 1: to come up here, just mark my words. There will

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Speaker 1: be and it will be sooner than later. I believe

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Speaker 1: a thrown into this current maelstrom of sexual harassment revelation. Uh,

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Speaker 1: there will be somebody who is targeted specifically, and this

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01:32:01,240 --> 01:32:03,680
Speaker 1: is are you've seen some efforts at this here and

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01:32:03,720 --> 01:32:06,680
Speaker 1: there on the right. But there will be either a politician,

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01:32:06,720 --> 01:32:10,400
Speaker 1: a media figure, someone who's on the wrong side of

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01:32:10,479 --> 01:32:14,160
Speaker 1: the political left will become a target, and there will

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01:32:14,200 --> 01:32:21,600
Speaker 1: be flimsy allegations and unsubstantiated claims that they hope to

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01:32:21,720 --> 01:32:25,040
Speaker 1: just use to to use the current, the momentum of

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01:32:25,080 --> 01:32:28,599
Speaker 1: the moment in order to push somebody out, you know. So,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's going to be a senior

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01:32:30,520 --> 01:32:32,599
Speaker 1: Trump official. I don't know if it's going to be

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01:32:33,160 --> 01:32:37,920
Speaker 1: a major conservative media figure, but they're gonna go They're

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01:32:37,920 --> 01:32:42,040
Speaker 1: gonna put somebody in the on the hot seat here,

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01:32:42,280 --> 01:32:45,920
Speaker 1: and they're gonna hope that they can ruin a career,

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01:32:46,120 --> 01:32:52,160
Speaker 1: scare advertisers, scare employers before the full facts come out,

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01:32:52,760 --> 01:32:57,200
Speaker 1: and they will weaponize this moment for political reasons. That's

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Speaker 1: what I see happening here. I'm happy all this is

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01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:03,960
Speaker 1: coming out about the I'm happy to this is coming

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01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:06,559
Speaker 1: out about Hollywood and about the media and all of this.

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01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:09,519
Speaker 1: I think that's that's we should know about this, and

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01:33:09,560 --> 01:33:13,000
Speaker 1: people should get justice, and there should be punishment for

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01:33:13,040 --> 01:33:16,160
Speaker 1: those particularly who broke the law, but also for those

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01:33:16,160 --> 01:33:19,840
Speaker 1: who were acting in a way that was highly unprofessional.

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Speaker 1: But as I was saying, make no make no mistake

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Speaker 1: about it, and I just keep ringing the alarm bell here,

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01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:31,800
Speaker 1: the left is going to see this as an opportunity

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01:33:31,920 --> 01:33:35,360
Speaker 1: to pull the Clarence Thomas playbook on somebody at a

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01:33:35,439 --> 01:33:38,720
Speaker 1: time when I don't know how many companies or how

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01:33:38,760 --> 01:33:41,400
Speaker 1: many sponsors would be willing to wait it out and

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01:33:41,439 --> 01:33:44,519
Speaker 1: see what the real facts are. Alright, I'm gonna have more,

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Speaker 1: including more on the Mueller investigation, coming up right after

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01:33:48,680 --> 01:33:53,800
Speaker 1: this break. Is is attorney client privilege sacred? Is it

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Speaker 1: something that we should all defend in this country? Is

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01:33:57,120 --> 01:34:01,799
Speaker 1: it a bedrock legal principle, principle of our criminal justice

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Speaker 1: system and beyond just of our legal system. I think

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Speaker 1: you'd answer that with a guess. But I'm gonna tell

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Speaker 1: you something Special Counselor Mueller seems to not think so.

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Speaker 1: Just one note as a follow up to the Muller

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Speaker 1: investigation that I think has not gotten nearly enough attention

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Speaker 1: of one of the mandates in my opinion for this show.

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01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:27,000
Speaker 1: One of the things that I try to always make

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01:34:27,080 --> 01:34:31,080
Speaker 1: sure and do is whenever there is a story that

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Speaker 1: I believe has been largely overlooked or perhaps even not

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01:34:35,439 --> 01:34:40,639
Speaker 1: covered at all, I think it is an obligation for

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01:34:40,680 --> 01:34:42,920
Speaker 1: me to spend some time going into why I think

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01:34:42,960 --> 01:34:47,080
Speaker 1: this was important and should have gotten should have in

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01:34:47,120 --> 01:34:49,759
Speaker 1: fact gotten more attention than it did. And a perfect

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Speaker 1: example of that on the Muller investigation is the and

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Speaker 1: in the investigation the head special prosecutor former FBI directory

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Speaker 1: who's special counsel Robert Mueller, got Maniforts attorney to speak

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Speaker 1: against him. This is this is pretty no holds barred

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Speaker 1: prosecutorial stuff. And it's not just that there are a

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Speaker 1: couple of layers here that matter. One is that this

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Speaker 1: goes to show you that they are pulling out all

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Speaker 1: the stops. I mean, they are going to do absolutely

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Speaker 1: everything that they can in order to uh prosecute and

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Speaker 1: you know, destroy anybody who has anything to do with

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01:35:41,160 --> 01:35:43,800
Speaker 1: Trump that broke the law or you know, because I

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Speaker 1: can't even say having to do with Russia collusion because

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Speaker 1: that didn't even come up in the indictment recently. They

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Speaker 1: are just the Special Prosecutor's office is looking for scalps.

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Speaker 1: They're taking people down here, and that they would use

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Speaker 1: a a an attorney against the person the attorney's representing

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01:36:05,280 --> 01:36:07,479
Speaker 1: is very unusual. Let me just give you what the

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01:36:07,479 --> 01:36:11,519
Speaker 1: Washington Post says about this. A little notice court filing

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Speaker 1: unsealed this week as part of Special Counsel Robert Mueller's

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01:36:14,479 --> 01:36:18,360
Speaker 1: ongoing probe could have big consequences for his other targets,

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01:36:18,680 --> 01:36:22,320
Speaker 1: showing he's willing to use suspects lawyers to provide evidence

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Speaker 1: against them. After unsealing a twelve count indictment against President

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Speaker 1: Trump's former campaign chairman Paul Manaford, the U. S. District

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Speaker 1: Court also unsealed an opinion from Chief Judge Beryl Howell

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Speaker 1: saying one of Manafort's former lawyers could be compelled to

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Speaker 1: testify to the grand jury. Typically, such information is protected

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Speaker 1: by attorney client privilege, a bedrock principle of US legal

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Speaker 1: practice that says a lawyer must keep confidential what they

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01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:56,439
Speaker 1: are told by their clients. There are some exceptions to

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Speaker 1: that confidentiality, including instances where a suspect may have lie

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01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:04,280
Speaker 1: to his or her lawyer, causing that lawyer to unwittingly

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Speaker 1: lie to the government. How All rule that in Manafort's case,

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01:37:07,439 --> 01:37:10,280
Speaker 1: the exception applied and the attorney could be called to

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Speaker 1: testify before the grand jury. This is pulling out the

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01:37:16,240 --> 01:37:21,559
Speaker 1: big guns, so to speak. Uh, this is opening up territory.

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Speaker 1: Forget about how much this concerns you with regard to Manaphort, right,

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01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:27,959
Speaker 1: I mean, I think Manafort seems like he was conducting

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01:37:27,960 --> 01:37:31,719
Speaker 1: some pretty shady business. And I really have no dog

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01:37:31,760 --> 01:37:34,760
Speaker 1: in the fight of what ends up happening with Manafort personally.

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01:37:34,840 --> 01:37:37,599
Speaker 1: I mean, if he's not guilty, I hope that comes

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Speaker 1: out in court. If he is guilty, he's going to

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Speaker 1: be punished. Has nothing to do with Russia collusion, as

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Speaker 1: we know. But even beyond the implications specifically for Paul Manafort,

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01:37:48,080 --> 01:37:51,160
Speaker 1: what does this mean going forward? If you are on

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01:37:51,200 --> 01:37:54,479
Speaker 1: the wrong side of the politics of the moment, our

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01:37:54,560 --> 01:37:58,360
Speaker 1: federal prosecutors going to try and find a way to

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01:37:59,080 --> 01:38:02,559
Speaker 1: break attorney client privilege so that they can get even

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01:38:02,560 --> 01:38:04,800
Speaker 1: more damaging information on you. I know that this is

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01:38:04,840 --> 01:38:09,960
Speaker 1: within specified and limited parameters, but still, I mean, nonetheless,

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01:38:10,680 --> 01:38:15,120
Speaker 1: this is troubling and the fact that this was done

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Speaker 1: and that there were so little coverage of this, and

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01:38:18,200 --> 01:38:22,080
Speaker 1: there was really such a small I think such a

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01:38:22,200 --> 01:38:26,519
Speaker 1: small outrage session. There should have been a lot more

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01:38:26,520 --> 01:38:28,920
Speaker 1: people saying hold on it. But they should have been

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01:38:28,920 --> 01:38:32,120
Speaker 1: saying hold on a second, but they didn't, because Manaford

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01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:36,360
Speaker 1: is the enemy if you're somebody who wants Trump to

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01:38:37,720 --> 01:38:40,639
Speaker 1: have his presidency ruined and Trump to be in prisident

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01:38:40,600 --> 01:38:43,840
Speaker 1: and all that stuff that Democrats want. So you know,

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01:38:43,920 --> 01:38:46,840
Speaker 1: you just see in instances like this with Maniford, really

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01:38:46,840 --> 01:38:51,479
Speaker 1: with the whole Russia collusion investigation, who has principles, who

1545
01:38:51,520 --> 01:38:54,840
Speaker 1: sticks to their principles, and who's just about whatever is

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01:38:54,880 --> 01:38:58,639
Speaker 1: politically convenient in the moment. Is attorney client privileged something

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01:38:58,680 --> 01:39:01,160
Speaker 1: that should matter for all of us because there's a

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01:39:01,160 --> 01:39:04,720
Speaker 1: principle behind it, or is it just a technicality that

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01:39:05,120 --> 01:39:07,680
Speaker 1: can be cast aside when the Democrats want to make

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01:39:07,680 --> 01:39:11,160
Speaker 1: an example of somebody. We should keep an eye on this,

1551
01:39:11,960 --> 01:39:14,519
Speaker 1: all right. I'll come back to you with some well,

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01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:18,040
Speaker 1: with an update on my short ribs, which were delicious,

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01:39:18,080 --> 01:39:21,160
Speaker 1: I might add, and some team Buck speaks well. Team.

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01:39:21,160 --> 01:39:25,920
Speaker 1: Given the crazy week, the crazy month it feels like now,

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01:39:25,960 --> 01:39:27,600
Speaker 1: which has just come to an end, and I know

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01:39:27,640 --> 01:39:31,880
Speaker 1: we're in the first day of November, I wanted to

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01:39:31,880 --> 01:39:34,600
Speaker 1: take a few moments your time before we get into

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01:39:34,800 --> 01:39:40,000
Speaker 1: the latest in our series called Team Buck Speaks, where

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01:39:40,040 --> 01:39:42,760
Speaker 1: your voices are heard on the show at least your

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01:39:42,800 --> 01:39:44,720
Speaker 1: thoughts are heard on the show via my voice and

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01:39:44,760 --> 01:39:48,599
Speaker 1: you're writing. But I made for the first time ever

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Speaker 1: braised short ribs earlier this week, and I will tell

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Speaker 1: you I will take something of a victory lap here.

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Speaker 1: My brave short ribs were phenomenal. They were absolutely del ishous.

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01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:05,120
Speaker 1: I used a red wine reduction sauce and put them

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Speaker 1: in the slow cooker after searing them in my cast iron,

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01:40:10,800 --> 01:40:14,160
Speaker 1: my seasoned cast iron pan, and the good sear was

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01:40:14,200 --> 01:40:17,080
Speaker 1: absolutely critical and I seared all sides. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: those of you who gave me that tip. I did,

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01:40:19,560 --> 01:40:24,480
Speaker 1: in fact use it in my cooking my cooking expedition,

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01:40:24,640 --> 01:40:28,400
Speaker 1: and I managed to just make Even Molly, who is

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01:40:28,520 --> 01:40:32,559
Speaker 1: generally not a big red meat eater she likes chicken

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01:40:32,720 --> 01:40:37,760
Speaker 1: and salads, she thought that the short ribs were fantastic.

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01:40:37,840 --> 01:40:40,880
Speaker 1: So if you have a great short rib dish, let

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01:40:40,920 --> 01:40:45,679
Speaker 1: me know for a fantastic sauce, I obviously will mix

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01:40:46,120 --> 01:40:50,280
Speaker 1: or change out the normal flour for a gluten free flour,

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01:40:50,360 --> 01:40:53,160
Speaker 1: and then the recipe should work just fine. But I'm

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01:40:53,479 --> 01:40:58,400
Speaker 1: really enjoying my culinary adventures. I find cooking so relaxing,

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01:40:58,600 --> 01:41:02,760
Speaker 1: and especially when it's just been a crazy day at

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01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:05,960
Speaker 1: the office or a crazy week with everything going on,

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01:41:06,600 --> 01:41:08,720
Speaker 1: it's so nice to just take some time and just

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01:41:08,760 --> 01:41:11,040
Speaker 1: to create something. I guess this is what I really

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01:41:11,040 --> 01:41:13,759
Speaker 1: wanted to say. In another life, I kind of wish

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01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:16,280
Speaker 1: I was able to be a chef. And I know

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01:41:16,479 --> 01:41:20,240
Speaker 1: people will the moment you say that, people start jumping

1586
01:41:20,240 --> 01:41:25,599
Speaker 1: in with chef's life is so so difficult and the hours,

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01:41:25,600 --> 01:41:28,920
Speaker 1: and I know, I know, I probably love the idea

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01:41:29,000 --> 01:41:32,840
Speaker 1: of being a chef, maybe like a celebrity TV chef, right,

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01:41:33,160 --> 01:41:36,559
Speaker 1: But to be a cook in a restaurant, uh night

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01:41:36,600 --> 01:41:39,559
Speaker 1: and night out is a tough, a tough existence. And

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01:41:39,640 --> 01:41:42,360
Speaker 1: I still think the best thing, really, the only thing

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Speaker 1: that I ever read by Anthony Bourdaine that I really

1593
01:41:44,520 --> 01:41:48,320
Speaker 1: enjoyed was his book Kitchen Confidential, which was just pretty

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01:41:48,360 --> 01:41:51,000
Speaker 1: no frills look at what it's like being a chef,

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01:41:51,680 --> 01:41:55,080
Speaker 1: and I still have in my head, I mean, maybe

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Speaker 1: if I could go back, if I come back in

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01:41:57,640 --> 01:42:00,800
Speaker 1: another life or in another generation or something, it would

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01:42:00,800 --> 01:42:03,920
Speaker 1: be fun to be a chef. I think that being

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Speaker 1: involved in a in a craft. People say that chefs, well,

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01:42:08,400 --> 01:42:10,599
Speaker 1: Ordaine actually wrote in his book that chefs you shouldn't

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01:42:10,600 --> 01:42:13,000
Speaker 1: think of as artists. You should think of them as

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01:42:13,120 --> 01:42:17,160
Speaker 1: artisans or craftsmen or crafts women who have a skill

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01:42:17,240 --> 01:42:19,559
Speaker 1: that they must replicate time and time again. It's not

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01:42:19,600 --> 01:42:23,640
Speaker 1: that they're always doing something new and creative necessarily, but

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01:42:23,680 --> 01:42:26,240
Speaker 1: it would be nice to be involved in an endeavor

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01:42:26,360 --> 01:42:31,920
Speaker 1: that is just additive and gives people a degree of

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01:42:32,120 --> 01:42:35,200
Speaker 1: joy and pleasure. And that's my favorite thing about media.

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01:42:35,280 --> 01:42:37,799
Speaker 1: It's my favorite thing about what I do here as well.

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01:42:37,960 --> 01:42:41,519
Speaker 1: But you know, if you're like making really great flank

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01:42:41,600 --> 01:42:45,120
Speaker 1: steak and you you really know how to sear those

1611
01:42:45,160 --> 01:42:48,680
Speaker 1: Brussels sprouts or you know, use the broiler to get

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01:42:48,720 --> 01:42:52,000
Speaker 1: them just perfectly crispy, you tend to make everybody happy.

1613
01:42:52,080 --> 01:42:56,200
Speaker 1: Whereas in in media, especially if you're fighting against narratives

1614
01:42:56,280 --> 01:43:00,400
Speaker 1: and dealing with the dishonest left, it's a fight. And

1615
01:43:00,439 --> 01:43:02,680
Speaker 1: whenever there's a fight, there are people who are going

1616
01:43:02,720 --> 01:43:05,840
Speaker 1: to be unhappy. And you get the occasional or in

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01:43:05,880 --> 01:43:09,679
Speaker 1: my case, more than occasional email from what I would

1618
01:43:09,760 --> 01:43:13,880
Speaker 1: call the not you know, not another satisfied customer, the

1619
01:43:14,240 --> 01:43:18,639
Speaker 1: leftists who are just full of rage. I'm always tempted

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01:43:18,640 --> 01:43:21,439
Speaker 1: to write to them. You know, just don't listen to

1621
01:43:21,479 --> 01:43:24,360
Speaker 1: the show if it bothers you so much. So it

1622
01:43:24,400 --> 01:43:29,639
Speaker 1: seems pretty straightforward, right, Uh, don't spend your time listening

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01:43:29,640 --> 01:43:33,799
Speaker 1: to a show that makes you read with rage or something.

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01:43:33,920 --> 01:43:37,520
Speaker 1: I think that's a pretty easy, pretty easy thing. Anyway.

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01:43:37,560 --> 01:43:40,000
Speaker 1: All of you listening are wonderful and support the show

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01:43:40,040 --> 01:43:41,760
Speaker 1: and support what I do, so thank you so much

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01:43:42,400 --> 01:43:44,559
Speaker 1: for that. It's particularly when I go on TV when

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01:43:44,600 --> 01:43:48,560
Speaker 1: you when you do enough TV, you just get the nasty,

1629
01:43:48,640 --> 01:43:52,200
Speaker 1: the nasty people start coming after you and start yelling

1630
01:43:52,240 --> 01:43:56,559
Speaker 1: at how you're so awful and you're you're a hack.

1631
01:43:56,720 --> 01:44:00,599
Speaker 1: You know, your your Trump's poodle or you're right wing

1632
01:44:00,880 --> 01:44:05,280
Speaker 1: nut job or whatever whatever it may be. Ah, there

1633
01:44:05,320 --> 01:44:07,320
Speaker 1: you have it, So forget all that. Let's get into

1634
01:44:07,360 --> 01:44:11,200
Speaker 1: Team buck Speaks and some of your wonderful messages. First

1635
01:44:11,240 --> 01:44:16,320
Speaker 1: we here we have here from Doug Buck love the show, Doug,

1636
01:44:16,360 --> 01:44:19,400
Speaker 1: thank you so much. Interview option on your deep dive

1637
01:44:19,439 --> 01:44:22,880
Speaker 1: into cryptocurrency reach out to a fellow podcast or named

1638
01:44:22,960 --> 01:44:26,720
Speaker 1: Jack Spirico. He covers a lot of bitcoin and alternative

1639
01:44:26,720 --> 01:44:30,320
Speaker 1: currency on his show, The Survival Podcast. Keep up the

1640
01:44:30,360 --> 01:44:33,479
Speaker 1: great show. I listen every day, Old Doug, thank you

1641
01:44:33,520 --> 01:44:39,120
Speaker 1: so much for your kind message. Very much appreciate your

1642
01:44:39,200 --> 01:44:43,400
Speaker 1: thought about this individual, and that would be great. Uh,

1643
01:44:43,600 --> 01:44:47,160
Speaker 1: We'll see if we can have the team reach out. Um.

1644
01:44:47,400 --> 01:44:51,200
Speaker 1: Steve writes in a sign from the News, the most

1645
01:44:51,320 --> 01:44:53,800
Speaker 1: terrifying movie I've ever seen is not found in the

1646
01:44:53,920 --> 01:44:58,439
Speaker 1: horror section. It's called Contagion, and if you watch it

1647
01:44:58,520 --> 01:45:03,280
Speaker 1: and think about it, it's extremely frightening. I'm assuming I'm

1648
01:45:03,280 --> 01:45:08,599
Speaker 1: assuming Steve that Contagion is about pandemic disease, and I

1649
01:45:08,840 --> 01:45:12,120
Speaker 1: often say that to me, that is the most terrifying

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01:45:12,240 --> 01:45:17,280
Speaker 1: thing that humanity faces, because there is already ample precedent

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01:45:17,840 --> 01:45:25,240
Speaker 1: for a virus or bacterial infection to spread in a

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01:45:26,360 --> 01:45:30,880
Speaker 1: exponential fashion. And in fact, when you look at the

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01:45:31,000 --> 01:45:34,840
Speaker 1: pandemic known as the the Black Death or the the

1654
01:45:34,840 --> 01:45:39,800
Speaker 1: Bubonic plague, it killed somewhere in the neighborhood of of

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01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:44,000
Speaker 1: fifty too well as many as two hundred people, sorry,

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01:45:44,040 --> 01:45:48,719
Speaker 1: fifty to two hundred million people in all of Europe

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01:45:48,720 --> 01:45:52,360
Speaker 1: and Asia and the Eurasian land mass in the mid

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01:45:54,080 --> 01:45:58,880
Speaker 1: in the mid fourteenth century, and generally speaking, it is

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01:45:58,960 --> 01:46:03,439
Speaker 1: believed that this was that this was a series of

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01:46:03,520 --> 01:46:09,080
Speaker 1: different different plagues, including the bubonic plague. Now which I

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01:46:09,080 --> 01:46:13,800
Speaker 1: should note has gotten back into the headlines. There is

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01:46:14,520 --> 01:46:21,680
Speaker 1: plague spreading in Madagascar. Corner this piece here. I I

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01:46:21,800 --> 01:46:23,880
Speaker 1: had just heard about this earlier in the week, and

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01:46:23,880 --> 01:46:27,200
Speaker 1: I wasn't planning on talking about it. But plague still exists.

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01:46:27,360 --> 01:46:33,120
Speaker 1: Different plagues exists, and contagion or outbreak or anything like

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01:46:33,720 --> 01:46:37,599
Speaker 1: anything like that, where you're talking about a highly, highly

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01:46:37,680 --> 01:46:40,880
Speaker 1: lethal and highly contagious infection that we don't have a

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Speaker 1: treatment for now. In the modern age of jet airplane travel, well,

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01:46:46,439 --> 01:46:48,320
Speaker 1: never mind all the other forms of travel that make

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01:46:48,320 --> 01:46:51,280
Speaker 1: it much easier to spread things far and wide. That's

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01:46:51,280 --> 01:46:53,040
Speaker 1: What'll be keeping me up late at night. I'll be

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01:46:53,080 --> 01:46:58,000
Speaker 1: honest with you. That's I I worry more about antibiotic

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01:46:58,080 --> 01:47:04,040
Speaker 1: resistant bacteria you by far than well. For example, climate change,

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01:47:04,040 --> 01:47:07,200
Speaker 1: which I don't think is something to be concerned about.

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01:47:07,200 --> 01:47:09,040
Speaker 1: I just think it is something that is slowly occurring

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01:47:09,080 --> 01:47:12,320
Speaker 1: and we are adapting and we will be fine. Uh.

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01:47:12,400 --> 01:47:15,439
Speaker 1: We have Andy writing in the following Good Evening. I've

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01:47:15,439 --> 01:47:17,640
Speaker 1: been listening to your podcast for two months now. I

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01:47:17,680 --> 01:47:21,800
Speaker 1: am very impressed with your analyzation of current events. I

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01:47:21,880 --> 01:47:25,280
Speaker 1: live in Alaska, so I am somewhat distant from the news,

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01:47:25,360 --> 01:47:28,439
Speaker 1: but I do listen to podcasts daily. I work on

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01:47:28,479 --> 01:47:31,719
Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty foot fishing vessel in the Bearing Sea.

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01:47:32,240 --> 01:47:34,799
Speaker 1: I've been trying to download from iTunes with our satellite internet,

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01:47:34,840 --> 01:47:37,400
Speaker 1: but I'm not having any luck getting your podcast to load.

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01:47:37,439 --> 01:47:40,400
Speaker 1: Where else can I find the podcast? Is it possible

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01:47:40,439 --> 01:47:43,719
Speaker 1: to have episodes emailed? Thanks? And you know, first of all, Andy,

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01:47:44,000 --> 01:47:46,240
Speaker 1: very cool that you're out there on a fishing vessel

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01:47:46,400 --> 01:47:49,679
Speaker 1: in the Bearing Sea. And always appreciate any of our

1689
01:47:50,320 --> 01:47:54,040
Speaker 1: team buck Alaska folks for writing in or just for listening.

1690
01:47:54,600 --> 01:47:56,840
Speaker 1: And in terms of the podcast, you can go to

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01:47:56,880 --> 01:47:59,799
Speaker 1: buck sex and dot com and there should be options

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01:47:59,800 --> 01:48:03,800
Speaker 1: there are, including listening on demand on the I Heart app. So, Andy,

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01:48:03,800 --> 01:48:07,040
Speaker 1: why don't you try downloading the I Heart radio app

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Speaker 1: and then just type in into the search field. Once

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Speaker 1: you have the app buck Sexton with America Now and

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01:48:12,400 --> 01:48:13,920
Speaker 1: then you should be able to listen to the show

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01:48:14,200 --> 01:48:18,679
Speaker 1: any time you like. Got another message here from Willie

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01:48:18,800 --> 01:48:22,599
Speaker 1: who writes in, uh, where can I find your show?

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Speaker 1: Between zero and between I guess ten and midnight Pacific time.

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01:48:27,840 --> 01:48:30,880
Speaker 1: Really enjoy the show, but I'm engaged when you are live.

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01:48:30,960 --> 01:48:34,200
Speaker 1: Thanks well, Willie. Thank you, And like I said, you

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01:48:34,200 --> 01:48:36,200
Speaker 1: can go bucks x and dot com. We have some

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01:48:36,280 --> 01:48:40,479
Speaker 1: links up. There also the I Heart Radio app which

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01:48:40,479 --> 01:48:44,280
Speaker 1: you can download to your smartphone. Uh that is a good,

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01:48:44,320 --> 01:48:46,040
Speaker 1: a great way to listen. You can listen to Man

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01:48:46,160 --> 01:48:49,880
Speaker 1: and then there is the podcast itself which you can

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01:48:49,920 --> 01:48:57,200
Speaker 1: download on iTunes. Mark writes in slang the storytelling once again,

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01:48:57,479 --> 01:49:00,840
Speaker 1: love it. Happy Halloween, Well Mark, thank you very much.

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01:49:00,960 --> 01:49:05,320
Speaker 1: I really do appreciate that you appreciate the storytelling aspect

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01:49:05,320 --> 01:49:08,840
Speaker 1: of this this program, which is different from any other

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01:49:08,920 --> 01:49:11,720
Speaker 1: radio shows out there, as well as the History Deep Dives.

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01:49:11,800 --> 01:49:13,840
Speaker 1: And I can tell you all who are listening that

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01:49:13,920 --> 01:49:19,559
Speaker 1: I have now official clearance for my side project, which

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01:49:19,600 --> 01:49:23,599
Speaker 1: is a history. Think of it as History Deep Dives

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01:49:23,680 --> 01:49:27,920
Speaker 1: as their own show, not three hours, but that is

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01:49:28,040 --> 01:49:33,880
Speaker 1: coming in the future, so stay tuned for that. Um

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01:49:34,080 --> 01:49:36,479
Speaker 1: Sandra writes in with falling Hey Buck, I'm now just

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01:49:36,479 --> 01:49:39,040
Speaker 1: seeing the headlines the attack in New York. Hope you

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01:49:39,120 --> 01:49:41,479
Speaker 1: and your loved ones are safe. My God, ease the

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01:49:41,479 --> 01:49:45,160
Speaker 1: pain of the families that were not so lucky. Sincerely, Sandra,

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01:49:45,600 --> 01:49:48,880
Speaker 1: an Avid podcast listener in California. Well, Sandra, thank you

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01:49:48,920 --> 01:49:51,759
Speaker 1: so much for your kind thoughts and for your support.

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01:49:52,360 --> 01:49:55,439
Speaker 1: I am fortunate. I'm fine, obviously, and my family and

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01:49:55,640 --> 01:49:59,120
Speaker 1: my loved ones are all okay. But it's heartbreaking what happened.

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01:49:59,479 --> 01:50:02,439
Speaker 1: What happened yesterday here and not just a city I

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01:50:02,479 --> 01:50:04,479
Speaker 1: live in now, but my hometown, the city I grew

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Speaker 1: up in, and a place that is really the only

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Speaker 1: place for me that feels like home. It's, uh, it's

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Speaker 1: deeply troubling. But we we are a resilient lot here

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Speaker 1: in New York City. We we've been through obviously, been

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01:50:17,200 --> 01:50:20,320
Speaker 1: through tough times before, and uh, we'll come back, and

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01:50:20,320 --> 01:50:22,439
Speaker 1: we'll come back strong. I think that the New York

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01:50:22,479 --> 01:50:26,040
Speaker 1: City Marathon, which is this weekend, will be an opportunity

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01:50:26,080 --> 01:50:29,599
Speaker 1: for all New Yorkers just to show how much we

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01:50:29,680 --> 01:50:33,960
Speaker 1: are bouncing back and how we are a city that

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01:50:34,120 --> 01:50:37,280
Speaker 1: will not will not be forced to live in fear.

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Speaker 1: We will continue on and we will continue to prosper

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Speaker 1: and thrive. Alright, one more here before we close up

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Speaker 1: the Freedom Hunt for the Night, we have Theodore writing.

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Speaker 1: So you've watched two different versions of Tombstone, but never

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01:50:50,040 --> 01:50:53,320
Speaker 1: watched The Outlaw Josie Wales, I mean, what are you

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01:50:53,360 --> 01:50:56,360
Speaker 1: doing with your life? Also twice i've heard you plead

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01:50:56,360 --> 01:50:59,600
Speaker 1: ignorance on Remo Williams The Adventure Begins. I have a

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01:50:59,600 --> 01:51:01,639
Speaker 1: soft spot for it because I think it's the only

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01:51:01,680 --> 01:51:04,439
Speaker 1: movie I saw in the theater with my dad, who

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01:51:04,520 --> 01:51:07,679
Speaker 1: recently passed. But I think you'd like it. It's funny

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01:51:07,680 --> 01:51:10,120
Speaker 1: as heck, and maybe this will sell you. There's an

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01:51:10,160 --> 01:51:12,920
Speaker 1: action sequence with guys trying to kill the main character

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01:51:13,120 --> 01:51:15,680
Speaker 1: on the Statue of Liberty when it was under construction.

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01:51:16,000 --> 01:51:21,800
Speaker 1: Really cool Shields High Well Theodore with a recommendation like that,

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01:51:21,960 --> 01:51:24,439
Speaker 1: I think I am going to have to go and

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01:51:24,800 --> 01:51:29,800
Speaker 1: check out this, this Remo Williams movie you're telling me about.

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01:51:30,080 --> 01:51:33,280
Speaker 1: I'm planning a every weekend that I can. I plan

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01:51:33,360 --> 01:51:35,839
Speaker 1: a staycation for myself, which just gives me an excuse

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01:51:36,280 --> 01:51:40,160
Speaker 1: to leave my apartment to bear minimum number of times,

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01:51:40,680 --> 01:51:43,240
Speaker 1: maybe just to go on food runs. Although New York

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01:51:43,280 --> 01:51:45,160
Speaker 1: you can have a lot of food delivered. But I'll

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01:51:45,200 --> 01:51:46,920
Speaker 1: be looking for a movie this weekend. And if I

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01:51:46,920 --> 01:51:51,280
Speaker 1: can convince miss Molly of Remo Williams on our list,

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01:51:51,360 --> 01:51:53,960
Speaker 1: well then I'll have a review for you when I

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01:51:54,000 --> 01:51:56,479
Speaker 1: come back on the show sometime soon. And with that,

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Speaker 1: my friends, I thank you as always for hanging out

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01:51:59,240 --> 01:52:01,439
Speaker 1: with me here the Freedom Hunt. Thanks so much for

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01:52:01,479 --> 01:52:03,840
Speaker 1: spending your time with me. Uh tell a friend about

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01:52:03,840 --> 01:52:08,120
Speaker 1: the show. It's uh the one single best way that

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01:52:08,240 --> 01:52:12,320
Speaker 1: The Freedom Hunt grows, that Team Buck expands, and it

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01:52:12,439 --> 01:52:15,360
Speaker 1: is very much appreciated by me. I give you everything

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01:52:15,439 --> 01:52:17,800
Speaker 1: I can with this show, and how are you can

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01:52:17,960 --> 01:52:21,080
Speaker 1: tell others about it? That would be great. See you tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: same time, same place, my friends, Shields High